I've put Electrocute on Charged Staff and its pretty insane. It's another way to help sustain power charges via Combat Frenzy, and anything moderately thick just gets permanently stuck between Freeze, Electrocute, and Heavy Stun
I tried this and it's not giving charges. Does electrocuting (when they stop for 5 seconds) not count? I have resonance l, dunno why it's not giving snything
another option is to go full freeze monk with ice strike instead of those lightning spells and call of the brotherhood. You inflict so much more freeze buildup that all rares and below are frozen in a single hit, and uniques get frozen half way during their first attack and you can build up another freeze during their second attack. So nothing gets a chance to play
I appreciate the build, my lightning monk was starting to fall off around the end of act 2 start of act 3 and the big thing that helped me get it off the ground besides the skill tree was shattering palm. If you can’t easily freeze without it, there’s no reason not to take it as you probably won’t have enough spirit for herald of thunder + wind dancer yet anyway
I found having the overabundance support gem on the bell let you just mash the bell and place them constantly while doing a tempest flurry on stunned bosses, its pretty nice, idk if its ideal.
Can you explain why you would keep the freeze/cold ascendency nodes over the lightning nodes, aren't all your abilities lightning based? newer poe player here, but wouldnt the lightning nodes scale your lightning damage?
There's no real difference between adding cold or lightning damage extra outside of resistances, and the ability to work with freeze on top of electrocute and stun makes it easier to both do bosses and survive. Not even sure if shocked ground works in conjunction with the applied shock.
@ i see, another question is if i have add cold damage on my quarterstaff, does that affect charged staff/tempest flury even tho it says it only converts % physical damage to lightning (and not cold to lightning)? thanks
It is specifically for Resonance + Combat Frenzy to generate power charges to fuel Charged Staff whenever you freeze an enemy. The freeze is also just nice, free burst window. You cannot electrocute unless you support a skill with it, and it makes that skill deal 40% less damage. Works fine on charged staff, I'd not put it on anything else.
@@1brianyaffayou don't convert everything to lightning. Flat damage on your staff will contribute to that skill's damage type, you can see it if you expand the tooltip. You still also deal physical damage, just very minimal amounts after conversion + all the elemental damage nodes.
Mathil generally sticks to video format I think? You can check out his character itself and just copy it from there, though idk how much you can see on PoE2 website
1 portal is fine for regular mapping, but for learning Shaper / Elder / Maven tier bosses it's gonna be absolute ass. Just don't even bother attempting it until you've spoiled and studied everything on YT, i guess. 😕
hmmm no. Frostwall + lightning arrow was carrying 6 man boss fights, would instakill everything. PoE1 also had lots of broken shit. The difference is that back then we were all young and stupid, but now we have 10+ years of PoE experience and understand the developers very well. Yes it is a new game but the way everything is worded and the way damage/defences scale is very similar PoE 1.0 bosses seemed unkillable because we were dumb, not because they were unkillable. It just took several months for players to break the game compared to 2 days it took for PoE 2
Could you please explain how do I go from spamming storm wave/tempest flurry and having no charges whatsoever to pretty much having my setup based on having charges like you do? Quite difficult for me to grasp since getting charges might come only from the fist culling thingy now (I’m level 44). Thank you for your content!!
you need to run combat frenzy buff that gives you a frenzy charge when you freeze, electrocute or pin an enemy. Then you get the passive "Resonance" which makes its so the frenzy charges you gain from combat frenzy turn into power charges, which can be used to proc charged staff.
Initially you can do it with the palm skill that gives charges, after getting some more spirit you can use the ranger skill that gives frenzy charges on freeze and you take the node on the tree that changes frenzy to power charges, you need to have a decent amount of cold damage to do this (you can use the frost mark and it helps a lot).
For the love of God, please make a Maxroll-style build, brother. It's so confusing going back and forth on your video. I love your content, but it's frustrating to follow the build this way. No hate, but i see many other comment this too on each of your monk video, would help us so much!!
@MTugas what a dumb thing to say. Its more clueless to build a build based off a video than a page. You can see his views EXPLODED when he started posting his monk builds, its obv the new viewers are for his buid, and i assume more than half of his views arent POE1 Vets. Not creating a build feels more like a lack of care for followers than a display of professionalism
If you’re clueless to follow along what he is explaining and only rely on copying point to point then mathil guides aren’t for you unfortunately. There’s tons of other streamers tho
I never said it's clueless, because it isn't. What I'm saying is that it's better to have a Maxroll build added. Tell me, what’s the difference between comparing point by point using the video and doing it on Maxroll? It's literally the same thing, except Maxroll is 2000% faster and far more convenient.Its funny how you act like you have to be professional to follow his builds.
@@meem-zd3kj It's less lack of care and more how he has always done it. For POE1 he has a forum thread where he dumps all his builds, POBs and gear, so maybe he will do that. But Mathil doesn't make written guides. He makes a character, takes it to endgame then make a new character.
Compared to other builds... Yea. This build definitely does WAY more damage for the same amount of investment. I think only maybe double shock magnitude stacking archmage stormweaver comes close and that is wayyyyyy more of a pain in the ass to both play and gear for than a monk
Take node on skill tree that for each 1 ES on helmet you get 2 evasion and think to convert to ES at the end to get more ES than HP, also you can over leech ur ES so u can double that amount while mapping
@@HuxleyTheProf just search for them, there's like 5 nodes on the tree that have the word evasion in them. Overleech ES needs a gem called grim feast, but yeah everything else mentioned you just use nodes on tree. Search function in the top
Are you on amd? Same thing happened to me then turning on dlss fully stopped that. Note that i have really good pc but still have to turn dlss to stop crashes.
interesting, I swapped to ice monk and it fell off a cliff. Even have call of the brotherhood so i can scale cold damage while using charged staff and it all scales together nicely. Just does no damage. The shatter pops with palm and Hoi are nice sometimes tho. Overall imo not a good build tho. Obviously can be overcome with just better gear but at a certain point thats not a real argument. Lightning Monk is the way to go, bit glass canon and not having freeze kinda sucks, clear is ok though lacking, but the bossing damage is just better, bell is great. Hoping it doesnt get nerfed cause GGG seems to be a bit heavy handed rn. Especially with the fact that its still extremely easy to just get oneshot.
You're doing something wrong if ice monk is zdps. I swapped from lightning to ice and lost no damage (clearin t15s) but have way more consistent freezes so it is much safer. For damage it is more or less the same. your damage comes from proc'ing bell as fast as possible, ice strike vs lightning flurry have very similar hit rates. Flurry does multi hit but ice strike hits slightly faster + has more AS on gem quality. So they both proc the bell at similar rates. Your dps should be the exact same. Only difference may be no shock but that's only 20% damage, and when the builds do 10m burst damage losing 20% of that is irrelevant Also on both builds you can use elemntal invocation + frozen orb or whatever it's called so instantly proc all bell hits as it hits so many times. Abusible on both builds to have identical single target damage. I don't like doing this as it's another button press and it's a bit inconsistent, but the option is there. So you've setup your gems wrong
@@MyNameIsSalo I have never switched to lightning monk and I'm a ice monk, how it is in term of DPS compared to the video ? I'm currently in T12, I have really good damage and can kill boss in my map in 15 seconds with full burst but it's nowhere close from this DPS, I have a 350 phys dps staff so it's not that bad and probably still good for later map, honestly even if it does way less damage I think I'm still gonna stick with ice monk because evasion + ES is really good for tanking and I can easily tank breach even when swarmed, the only way I die is by one shot from rare.
My fucking Frost Mage was straight up HOTFIXED out of the game for clearing maps somewhat fast and being dogshit vs bosses, meanwhile people are oneshotting the entire game with zero nerfs :)
so.. are these even possible to do without a super busted build? im lvl 77, and i cant finish my 3rd asencsion. All these stupid curses etc.. makes it almost impossible without killing bosses without effort
@@nova2017 trial of chaos for 3rd ascendancy needs lvl 75+ trial to enter so I call bullshit on your lvl 70. You wouldn't have found one by then, and if you did buy one you'd be horribly underleveled. You need 10 wave trial for 3rd point (lvl 75+) or 12 wave for 4th point (no idea what level but atleast 80). 7 wave trial is super easy but it doesn't give points
I've put Electrocute on Charged Staff and its pretty insane. It's another way to help sustain power charges via Combat Frenzy, and anything moderately thick just gets permanently stuck between Freeze, Electrocute, and Heavy Stun
Same, making Charged staff self sustainable feels good
was thinking of doing this, thx for attesting to it’s power
I tried this and it's not giving charges. Does electrocuting (when they stop for 5 seconds) not count? I have resonance l, dunno why it's not giving snything
electrocute with gem u mean?
another option is to go full freeze monk with ice strike instead of those lightning spells and call of the brotherhood. You inflict so much more freeze buildup that all rares and below are frozen in a single hit, and uniques get frozen half way during their first attack and you can build up another freeze during their second attack. So nothing gets a chance to play
I appreciate the build, my lightning monk was starting to fall off around the end of act 2 start of act 3 and the big thing that helped me get it off the ground besides the skill tree was shattering palm. If you can’t easily freeze without it, there’s no reason not to take it as you probably won’t have enough spirit for herald of thunder + wind dancer yet anyway
The true GOAT, once again. I love to see that he gets the recognition he deserves.
Thanks for pointing out the power of weapon suffixes and flat damage. Helped me out a lot
I found having the overabundance support gem on the bell let you just mash the bell and place them constantly while doing a tempest flurry on stunned bosses, its pretty nice, idk if its ideal.
Am I missing something or he have two Supercritical Supports in two skills (Charged Staff 3rd slot and Storm Wave second slot)? How? See 07:11
Mathil doing mathil things. The damage output is insane. Makes me jealous :D
Any possibility of a written guide? I know there's a few out there from other credible players but I much prefer how this build looks and plays
Cheers mate.
Thx for all the work!
Hey Mathil, it's guys here once again
Can you explain why you would keep the freeze/cold ascendency nodes over the lightning nodes, aren't all your abilities lightning based? newer poe player here, but wouldnt the lightning nodes scale your lightning damage?
There's no real difference between adding cold or lightning damage extra outside of resistances, and the ability to work with freeze on top of electrocute and stun makes it easier to both do bosses and survive.
Not even sure if shocked ground works in conjunction with the applied shock.
@ i see, another question is if i have add cold damage on my quarterstaff, does that affect charged staff/tempest flury even tho it says it only converts % physical damage to lightning (and not cold to lightning)? thanks
It is specifically for Resonance + Combat Frenzy to generate power charges to fuel Charged Staff whenever you freeze an enemy. The freeze is also just nice, free burst window. You cannot electrocute unless you support a skill with it, and it makes that skill deal 40% less damage. Works fine on charged staff, I'd not put it on anything else.
@@1brianyaffayou don't convert everything to lightning. Flat damage on your staff will contribute to that skill's damage type, you can see it if you expand the tooltip. You still also deal physical damage, just very minimal amounts after conversion + all the elemental damage nodes.
Is there a written/breakdown guide posted anywhere(Mobalytics?) Or is it all in video form for now?
Mathil generally sticks to video format I think? You can check out his character itself and just copy it from there, though idk how much you can see on PoE2 website
What cosmetics is this set?
Mathil did you not drop a 5 link after doing all pinnacle bosses??
Is it bugged?
they're extremely rare. I've dropped 3 or 4 but theres plenty who have gone a week without a single drop
I swear to god anytime you check wtf mathil is up to he’s just over here casually fucking up bosses and content left right and center.
What a Legend ❤
Thanks, please a build guide in a website before moving on
Is there a guide or this or?
1 portal is fine for regular mapping, but for learning Shaper / Elder / Maven tier bosses it's gonna be absolute ass. Just don't even bother attempting it until you've spoiled and studied everything on YT, i guess. 😕
now do bloodmage! tips, crits help, get every bit of recoup you can, bone spells seem to be the intended approach.
only i heard i this video was DMG ! and bell is good noted
monks deleting bosses in seconds with 4 links. meanwhile my merc with 6link cant do shit
Nah i gotta ascend before the nerf happens
Dude said I'll show gems later and barely showed what he had on Stormwave lmao
Nerf in 1…. 2…
Game looks easy like this. Remember early PoE 1.0 some bosses were unkillable.
hmmm no. Frostwall + lightning arrow was carrying 6 man boss fights, would instakill everything. PoE1 also had lots of broken shit. The difference is that back then we were all young and stupid, but now we have 10+ years of PoE experience and understand the developers very well. Yes it is a new game but the way everything is worded and the way damage/defences scale is very similar
PoE 1.0 bosses seemed unkillable because we were dumb, not because they were unkillable. It just took several months for players to break the game compared to 2 days it took for PoE 2
Could you please explain how do I go from spamming storm wave/tempest flurry and having no charges whatsoever to pretty much having my setup based on having charges like you do?
Quite difficult for me to grasp since getting charges might come only from the fist culling thingy now (I’m level 44).
Thank you for your content!!
Did you even watched the video? Jeez ppl...
you need to run combat frenzy buff that gives you a frenzy charge when you freeze, electrocute or pin an enemy. Then you get the passive "Resonance" which makes its so the frenzy charges you gain from combat frenzy turn into power charges, which can be used to proc charged staff.
Initially you can do it with the palm skill that gives charges, after getting some more spirit you can use the ranger skill that gives frenzy charges on freeze and you take the node on the tree that changes frenzy to power charges, you need to have a decent amount of cold damage to do this (you can use the frost mark and it helps a lot).
POB ? 😘
I like your build, but tis way too squishy. I get gangbanged by mobs im dead
For the love of God, please make a Maxroll-style build, brother. It's so confusing going back and forth on your video. I love your content, but it's frustrating to follow the build this way. No hate, but i see many other comment this too on each of your monk video, would help us so much!!
He is not making build guides for clueless people. (He never did, even for PoE1, so if you are clueless, dont try to copy it.)
@MTugas what a dumb thing to say. Its more clueless to build a build based off a video than a page. You can see his views EXPLODED when he started posting his monk builds, its obv the new viewers are for his buid, and i assume more than half of his views arent POE1 Vets. Not creating a build feels more like a lack of care for followers than a display of professionalism
If you’re clueless to follow along what he is explaining and only rely on copying point to point then mathil guides aren’t for you unfortunately. There’s tons of other streamers tho
I never said it's clueless, because it isn't. What I'm saying is that it's better to have a Maxroll build added. Tell me, what’s the difference between comparing point by point using the video and doing it on Maxroll? It's literally the same thing, except Maxroll is 2000% faster and far more convenient.Its funny how you act like you have to be professional to follow his builds.
@@meem-zd3kj It's less lack of care and more how he has always done it. For POE1 he has a forum thread where he dumps all his builds, POBs and gear, so maybe he will do that. But Mathil doesn't make written guides. He makes a character, takes it to endgame then make a new character.
Watching all the PoE 2 videos/streams makes me want to play PoE 1 (even tho its like 2 months untill next league)
Nice
boom
how did u manage to get triple element weapon
Poe trade, how else?
@@NoifPeck idk essences? orbs? expedition?
That damage against pinnacle bosses just looks busted, not sure if that is a good thing.
nope pretty bad
Compared to other builds... Yea. This build definitely does WAY more damage for the same amount of investment. I think only maybe double shock magnitude stacking archmage stormweaver comes close and that is wayyyyyy more of a pain in the ass to both play and gear for than a monk
Skipping mechanics through straight big dick damage gotta be a nerf for sure lmao
if you see his gear it’s also kinda nutty so probably not everyone will get there
Yeah keep nerfing things until every build sucks.
Take node on skill tree that for each 1 ES on helmet you get 2 evasion and think to convert to ES at the end to get more ES than HP, also you can over leech ur ES so u can double that amount while mapping
Yo help a brother out what are those nodes called?
What nodes?
@@HuxleyTheProf just search for them, there's like 5 nodes on the tree that have the word evasion in them. Overleech ES needs a gem called grim feast, but yeah everything else mentioned you just use nodes on tree. Search function in the top
PoE2 was great fun, until it started repeatedly crashing my pc entirely.
Are you on amd? Same thing happened to me then turning on dlss fully stopped that. Note that i have really good pc but still have to turn dlss to stop crashes.
Meanwhile I keep getting 450 + phys staves with 0 atk speed, crit, or flat cold damage.
Can get a lot of flat cold with rings. And the 5 percent as extra cold node near the monk start helps a lot too
@@b152349 I have a t7 roll on one ring and got the nodes already, but without a decent cold damage on staff I just outdamage my freeze buildup.
PoE 2 has expedition doesn’t it? You can try crafting some weapons with Rog, he’s pretty solid for starter gear
@@MikeyJ28 450 phys on a staff is no starter gear.
Flat phys isn’t better than cold damage or lightning damage ? What should I prioritize?
Deadeye feels and plays 10x better
Fsster with better clear and speed.
Deadeye is gaye
@@ctc8998gaye? Yeah keep swinging that big staff, that's not gaye at all lmao
@@ctc8998lol? What exactly a bald man with a big staff is? Weirdo
@ctc8998 lol? What exactly a bald man with a big staff is? Weirdo
@@ctc8998lol? What exactly a bald man with a big staff is? Weirdo
GGG - How dare you have fun.
NERFED!
poe2 sucks
interesting, I swapped to ice monk and it fell off a cliff. Even have call of the brotherhood so i can scale cold damage while using charged staff and it all scales together nicely. Just does no damage. The shatter pops with palm and Hoi are nice sometimes tho. Overall imo not a good build tho. Obviously can be overcome with just better gear but at a certain point thats not a real argument.
Lightning Monk is the way to go, bit glass canon and not having freeze kinda sucks, clear is ok though lacking, but the bossing damage is just better, bell is great. Hoping it doesnt get nerfed cause GGG seems to be a bit heavy handed rn. Especially with the fact that its still extremely easy to just get oneshot.
I went Lightning/Freeze Monk for CoF. Drops Lightning Balls And Lightning Warp
You're doing something wrong if ice monk is zdps. I swapped from lightning to ice and lost no damage (clearin t15s) but have way more consistent freezes so it is much safer.
For damage it is more or less the same. your damage comes from proc'ing bell as fast as possible, ice strike vs lightning flurry have very similar hit rates. Flurry does multi hit but ice strike hits slightly faster + has more AS on gem quality. So they both proc the bell at similar rates. Your dps should be the exact same. Only difference may be no shock but that's only 20% damage, and when the builds do 10m burst damage losing 20% of that is irrelevant
Also on both builds you can use elemntal invocation + frozen orb or whatever it's called so instantly proc all bell hits as it hits so many times. Abusible on both builds to have identical single target damage. I don't like doing this as it's another button press and it's a bit inconsistent, but the option is there.
So you've setup your gems wrong
@@MyNameIsSalo I have never switched to lightning monk and I'm a ice monk, how it is in term of DPS compared to the video ? I'm currently in T12, I have really good damage and can kill boss in my map in 15 seconds with full burst but it's nowhere close from this DPS, I have a 350 phys dps staff so it's not that bad and probably still good for later map, honestly even if it does way less damage I think I'm still gonna stick with ice monk because evasion + ES is really good for tanking and I can easily tank breach even when swarmed, the only way I die is by one shot from rare.
Glad Frost Mage had to be hotfixed out of the game for clearing white trash while people are oneshotting bosses with zero nerfs :)
Honestly ggg is really really out of touch with balancing and I am getting tired of it fast.
This has been happening for years. I don't know what I was thinking hoping PoE2 would be different.
bro EA has been out for a week what are you on about lol
it’s you who js out of touch
My fucking Frost Mage was straight up HOTFIXED out of the game for clearing maps somewhat fast and being dogshit vs bosses, meanwhile people are oneshotting the entire game with zero nerfs :)
Has always been the case. But at least they seem to be faster with the nerfs and it won't take them years.
This damage is too crazy. Will definitely get nerfed
Show all your gear dude lol
He did
so this is just a showcase of broken build, unimpressive
so.. are these even possible to do without a super busted build? im lvl 77, and i cant finish my 3rd asencsion. All these stupid curses etc.. makes it almost impossible without killing bosses without effort
Try the trial of chaos. I used the same build and i just breeze through the trial on lvl 70. Or maybe you doing wrong?
@@nova2017 trial of chaos for 3rd ascendancy needs lvl 75+ trial to enter so I call bullshit on your lvl 70. You wouldn't have found one by then, and if you did buy one you'd be horribly underleveled. You need 10 wave trial for 3rd point (lvl 75+) or 12 wave for 4th point (no idea what level but atleast 80). 7 wave trial is super easy but it doesn't give points