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  • Опубликовано: 21 фев 2020
  • Despite Prince Kuragin's earlier confessions of love for Violet, she reunites him and his estranged wife, Irina, at her house. Violet gives Irina some of her clothes to wear, but Irina treats her with contempt. Was Violet so wrong to savor this immoral proposition?
    Season 5 Episode 9 ”A Moorland Holiday”: Lord and Lady Sinderby invite the Granthams to the country estate they have hired for driven grouse shooting. Elsewhere, Violet reunites Prince Kuragin and his estranged wife. Robert tells Edith that he knows Marigold is her legitimate daughter but will continue to keep the secret within the family to protect them both from scrutiny. Later, Isobel declines Lord Merton's marriage proposal, as she does not want to come between him and his sons. Finally, Anna is released on bail and a big Christmas party is held for the Downton household, which is the perfect send-off for Tom and Sybbie.
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  • @xoxo-dr8df
    @xoxo-dr8df 3 года назад +672

    "If you are going to feel miserable you might as well do in charming surroundings."
    wise words.

    • @funnyusername7097
      @funnyusername7097 2 года назад +12

      Reminds me of Blair from Gossip Girl: if you’re gonna be sad, might as well be sad in Paris

    • @taroman7100
      @taroman7100 2 года назад

      I thought it was a crass remark.

    • @alejandrobonofiglio1097
      @alejandrobonofiglio1097 2 года назад

      I realy liked him in the series, but man, how i wanted to punch him when he made that comment!

    • @williamsstephens
      @williamsstephens 2 года назад +7

      I was quite proud of him for showing enough gumption to deal appropriately with that dreadful woman.

    • @themermaidstale5008
      @themermaidstale5008 Год назад

      Apparently it’s in the Russian nature to suffer.

  • @pinklady051
    @pinklady051 2 года назад +279

    "you don't usually have much trouble complaining." this line was pure gold.

  • @danielburmad382
    @danielburmad382 4 года назад +1968

    They should make a serie about Lady Grantham when she was younger, including this famous trip ro Russia

    • @rosalynsmith5232
      @rosalynsmith5232 4 года назад +27

      Oh yes

    • @sarahdelmoral3475
      @sarahdelmoral3475 4 года назад +27

      I second that.

    • @emdee7744
      @emdee7744 4 года назад +64

      Oh my yes. What an inspired idea. Who do you think should play Violet in her younger years? Kate Winslet maybe? Claire Foy?

    • @kimidanger1150
      @kimidanger1150 4 года назад +30

      @@emdee7744 o0o0 kate winslet would be marvelous!

    • @mikeoxmaul45
      @mikeoxmaul45 4 года назад +39

      @@emdee7744 Still Dame Smith, but de-aged with CGI. Lol

  • @karldelavigne8134
    @karldelavigne8134 4 года назад +1210

    I love it when Isobel and Violet bond. They are like two quarrelling sisters but they also give each other emotional support.

    • @barbarat5729
      @barbarat5729 4 года назад +7

      Is THAT what they're doing?

    • @IzzyKawaiichi
      @IzzyKawaiichi 3 года назад +13

      Gives us hope for Mary and Edith...

    • @lower_than_furries9727
      @lower_than_furries9727 2 года назад +1

      @@IzzyKawaiichi they're no less horrifying than Cain and Habel, if not worse.

    • @IzzyKawaiichi
      @IzzyKawaiichi 2 года назад +9

      @@lower_than_furries9727 This may seem like a strange question, but what version of the Bible are you familiar with where Abel is spelled like that? This isn't criticism-- I've never seen this so I'm curious.

    • @mathbau
      @mathbau 2 года назад +1

      A bit like Elizabeth and Margarete in The Crown.

  • @markmh835
    @markmh835 4 года назад +1109

    Every woman over 75 deserves at least one last "immoral proposition from a man." What a memory to savor! You go granny. 😱👍

    • @vai280194
      @vai280194 4 года назад +12

      markmh835 you are so right.

    • @hermzc3392
      @hermzc3392 4 года назад +23

      I try to help with that but they act so shocked 😅

    • @glennvannijevelt1133
      @glennvannijevelt1133 4 года назад +1

      markmh835 immoral.... LOL !

    • @wilfordfraser6347
      @wilfordfraser6347 4 года назад +13

      As a man over 40 I savor immoral propositions as often as possible

    • @markmh835
      @markmh835 4 года назад +16

      And if the immoral proposition to a woman over 75 comes from a younger man ........ then it is doubly savored. 😊

  • @dorianlord6576
    @dorianlord6576 Год назад +54

    “The presence of strangers is our only guarantee of good behavior”. Classic British methodology! Love it!

  • @koppsr
    @koppsr Год назад +63

    "I will never again receive an immoral proposition from a man."
    That line somehow made me tear up.
    That moment when a woman realizes, that a part of her life is irreversibly over.

    • @g0nt411
      @g0nt411 6 месяцев назад +2

      There is always a last time for everything, better just embrace them, as long as they are safe.

  • @buddyobbard2176
    @buddyobbard2176 3 года назад +391

    Notice how timid Violet seems compared to how she usually is in the scene with the princess. She doesn’t make any rude/witty remarks and seems genuinely holding back.

    • @carlycrays2831
      @carlycrays2831 3 года назад +69

      It's like a part of her is that young girl who remembers the princess in her prime.

    • @adriangilbert5364
      @adriangilbert5364 3 года назад +50

      @@carlycrays2831 it'd be hard to forget that time you were manhandled by your hair, or the person who did it...

    • @sidharthmedepalli4564
      @sidharthmedepalli4564 3 года назад +3

      @@adriangilbert5364 whattt? When did they say that happened?

    • @lisarandleman6141
      @lisarandleman6141 3 года назад +76

      @@sidharthmedepalli4564
      Violet and Prince were set to runaway together (a la Anna Karenina) the Princess found out, gave chase , caught and overtook the pair and pulled Violet out of the carriage. She sent Violet back to Lord Grantham.

    • @sidharthmedepalli4564
      @sidharthmedepalli4564 3 года назад +8

      @@lisarandleman6141 oh my my...thanks for the info!

  • @Bluemango123
    @Bluemango123 Год назад +97

    That little step back Violet did when the Princess stepped forward preceded by the "Last time we met..." line. Wonderful acting. You could see the fear in her face. Again, you almost never see the Dowager Countess on the defense.

  • @herrbrucvald6376
    @herrbrucvald6376 2 года назад +88

    The princess' rude coldness is just a sign of her very great suffering, not just pique at being in the hands of her rival.

    • @marinazagrai1623
      @marinazagrai1623 Год назад +7

      Have you seen the series on Netflix? The prince almost ran off with Violet when they met (during that trip to Russia). The princess discovered their plan (Violet changed her mind) so, of course, she held a grudge, especially that now she was the poor one and had no status of Princess (she felt superior to Violet even as she lost everything).

  • @heathermetz6576
    @heathermetz6576 4 года назад +284

    2:05 “The presence of strangers is our only guarantee of good behavior!” Dowager!

  • @scottibrown3274
    @scottibrown3274 4 года назад +508

    I would have loved to have seen a younger Violet in Russia when she first met Prince Kuragin

    • @sks17873
      @sks17873 4 года назад +61

      Scotti Brown A kind of prequel series a few episodes long on either the Dowager or Cora would be great. I think Violet’s story would be interesting because of her relative lack of money compared to Lord Grantham and the Prince Kuragin situation. It would be interesting to see Cora’s transition from America to Great Britain though.

    • @stalstonestacy4316
      @stalstonestacy4316 4 года назад +2

      @@sks17873 YES!

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 4 года назад +13

      @@sks17873
      At the family dinner table,
      Violet mentioned that she
      "owed" it to the Princess
      Kuragin to help her escape
      to the UK and re-unite with
      Prince Kuragin.
      If nothing else, reuniting
      the two of them would
      allow Violent to get rid
      of the playboy, Igor
      Kuragin (who at that point
      wanted to be with her ….
      most likely for financial
      security)***
      Princess Kuragin's background
      story would be interesting too.
      ***At his age what a man really
      …… needs is a (full) "pur$e and
      a nurse"

    • @iainmawhinney8867
      @iainmawhinney8867 4 года назад +4

      for the sake of a joke, princess irina kuragin sure didn’t like seeing it

    • @markmh835
      @markmh835 4 года назад +6

      @@here_we_go_again2571 -- A "Nurse with a Purse" -- every man's dream. 😉

  • @stanislausklim7794
    @stanislausklim7794 3 года назад +298

    Fun fact:Princess Kuragin is played by the same actress who played Princess Alice of Greece and Denmark, Queen Elizabeth's mother-in-law, in The Crown.

    • @leewhite-graham753
      @leewhite-graham753 3 года назад +25

      A wonderful actress. 10 years recovered from a stroke.

    • @shivapejman8155
      @shivapejman8155 3 года назад +9

      Oh wow. Awesome. 😁

    • @nidhi5779
      @nidhi5779 3 года назад +3

      Exactly yes. I just commented about it myself

    • @chrismorgan9154
      @chrismorgan9154 2 года назад

      She sure gets around!

    • @robertmoore6149
      @robertmoore6149 2 года назад

      And she was wonderful in that role as well.

  • @annaisnotabanana246
    @annaisnotabanana246 4 года назад +444

    "Many of our countrymen have lost everything..."
    "Including the will to live."

    • @12tinj
      @12tinj 4 года назад +7

      AnnaIsNotABanana ... and it’s hasn’t changed even today

    • @AlexS-oj8qf
      @AlexS-oj8qf 4 года назад +16

      Russians were such a Severe people haha Glad my ancestors relocated to Poland-Lithuania and later Australia when the Empire collapsed.

    • @dergluckliche4973
      @dergluckliche4973 4 года назад +6

      @@AlexS-oj8qf Poland to Australia is quite a leap! How did that come about?
      My ancestors made a much less interesting move way back: Scotland to the US (Illinois) probably in the 1870s and then in the 1920s to Los Angeles. Less than a century later I turned around and moved to London, then to France.

    • @AlexS-oj8qf
      @AlexS-oj8qf 4 года назад +20

      @@dergluckliche4973 We have lands back in Poland, my ancestors were descended from the Ruriks of Muscovy and have Polish titles and castles around the area of Brest-Litovsk. My ancestors later moved to Paris as the Russian Empire collapsed, then to Manchester where they board a ship for Melbourne and settled in Yarra Ranges area with many other Polish immigrants.

    • @h.r7050
      @h.r7050 3 года назад

      @@dergluckliche4973 Und Sie sind wirklich gluecklich(e)!!

  • @jamessinclair2915
    @jamessinclair2915 4 года назад +252

    I always imitate Princess Kuragin when speaking with old enemies.

    • @powerdriller4124
      @powerdriller4124 3 года назад +6

      "KuraginA". Female Russian last names add an "a" at the end.

    • @ESTIFANOS_EGZI
      @ESTIFANOS_EGZI 2 года назад

      @@powerdriller4124I think the rule does not necessarily apply to surnames shared with your husband and with the rest of the family. In her case, her first name "Irina" ends with an "a" as you rightly said.

    • @williamsstephens
      @williamsstephens 2 года назад

      @@ESTIFANOS_EGZI It's Elena, pronounced "Ilyena". I noticed because it's my sister-in-law's name.

    • @Hjalmar_an_Craite
      @Hjalmar_an_Craite 2 года назад +1

      @@ESTIFANOS_EGZI Her name doesn't have anything to do with her surname. In some Slavic countries, like Russia or Poland, surnames have male and female version, but it depends on a surname of course. In this case, however, she should be called Kuragina, not Kuragin. Most famous example - wife of Putin was called Lyudmila Putina, not Lyudmila Putin.

    • @Hjalmar_an_Craite
      @Hjalmar_an_Craite 2 года назад

      @@williamsstephens It's Irina, not Elena.

  • @solmartel360
    @solmartel360 4 года назад +105

    « You usually have no trouble complaining »
    True.

  • @danivarius
    @danivarius 3 года назад +164

    I like this last scene between Violet and Isobel... true friends at last and a simple, touching moment shared between them. A simple acknowledgment of a chapter of life being closed, and comfort in the presence of a friend who understands... sometimes that is all we really need.

    • @itsabovemenow1016
      @itsabovemenow1016 2 года назад +6

      It seemed natural that Violet and Isobel would overlook their class differences and eventually become friends. Two widows who’ve seen a lot of life and understand it won’t go on forever, indeed not much longer. While the younger family members look for romance, they understand that in the end what you really need is companionship.

  • @steemdup
    @steemdup 4 года назад +343

    Isobel sacrificed love and happiness to spare Lord Merton's hateful sons. She's an honorable person. Branson is so lovely; I wish Sybil hadn't died.

    • @marksolomon969
      @marksolomon969 4 года назад +8

      She didn't, you know. She is hanging out with Elvis, in a quiet neighborhood in Vegas.

    • @Dreamcatcher0007
      @Dreamcatcher0007 3 года назад

      Even Mathew.

    • @itsabovemenow1016
      @itsabovemenow1016 2 года назад +2

      Isobel was such a martyr. I drove me nuts that she almost gave up Lord Merton because his god-awful snobby sons disliked her. Really? Happiness and companionship is terribly hard enough to find when you’re older and she’d give up for those jackasses?
      I would have loved for Sybil to stay in the series. Rose was a poor substitute. I didn’t care a thing about her story. Everybody else was interesting except her.

  • @luviano26
    @luviano26 4 года назад +325

    I can’t get enough of Maggie Smith. She is the best.

    • @luxaholicanonymous2577
      @luxaholicanonymous2577 3 года назад +1

      I loved her in first wives club 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

    • @marinazagrai1623
      @marinazagrai1623 Год назад +1

      Hug Bonneville said that all were scared they would not act correctly against this master of the stage, primarily.

    • @themermaidstale5008
      @themermaidstale5008 Год назад +1

      Maggie Smith played the part of a school teacher in a Mama and Eunice skit on the Carol Burnett Show.

  • @dergluckliche4973
    @dergluckliche4973 4 года назад +136

    "Including the will to live." I've waited years to hear that line again.

  • @jimhall1170
    @jimhall1170 3 года назад +82

    I will never again receive an immoral proposition from a man. Was I so wrong to savor it?
    What writing!

  • @hildajensen6263
    @hildajensen6263 4 года назад +122

    Isobel and Violet. One brings her ideals and energy. The other has connections and can strategize and negotiate like a seasoned politician. Together they would be able to manage just about anything.

  • @SheBPadfoot
    @SheBPadfoot Год назад +32

    “You will, if you try.”
    Such a subtle line, with such depth. He was one of the few people who could understand her on a deeper level, but they met at the wrong time.
    In another life, they would have been soulmates.

    • @duckduckgoismuchbetter
      @duckduckgoismuchbetter 8 месяцев назад +1

      He was either "the only" or "one of the few". Can't be both at the same time, lol.
      Gave you an upvote anyway, because I agree with you.

    • @SheBPadfoot
      @SheBPadfoot 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@duckduckgoismuchbetter
      Thanks for the input 🙏
      I made the correction, however I don’t fully understand your meaning. Could you elaborate? I often use phrases such as “only a handful of people”, is this incorrect as well?

    • @duckduckgoismuchbetter
      @duckduckgoismuchbetter 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@SheBPadfoot Well the expression "handful of people" is a figurative expression. Not intended to be considered literally true.
      But with the common, but nonsensical expression "one of the only..." it is an amalgamation of the two separate expressions "one of the few..." or "the only...". They are mutually exclusive. Meaning whatever it is, cannot be both simultaneously.
      If someone or something is "the only" someone or something, then they or it is the ONLY one that exists. Which means there cannot be a few others, of which they are one of.
      Otoh, if they or it are one of the few, then they are not the "only" one of its kind.
      Hence, to say something is "one of the only" is a description of a numerical impossibility. A literal contradiction in terms.

  • @fancybrooks3156
    @fancybrooks3156 4 года назад +98

    I really like lord Merton for Isabel. They both deserve some happiness. And it is nice to see people of a certain age find love again on-screen. It happens all the time IRL, but not that often on-screen.

    • @markmh835
      @markmh835 4 года назад +6

      For movies with storylines featuring late-in-life love and sex, I would HIGHLY recommend the British films "The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel" and its sequel "The Second Best Exotic Marigold Hotel." These are charming and magnificent! Both feature Dame Maggie Smith ("Violet" in D.A.) and Penelope Wilton ("Isobel" in D.A.), as well as Dame Judi Dench together with other British acting luminaries. (And the sequel features American actor Richard Gere.) If you haven't seen these movies, do track them down to watch them. You will not be disappointed. 😊👍

    • @luxaholicanonymous2577
      @luxaholicanonymous2577 3 года назад +1

      Same! ♥️

    • @maryshaffer8474
      @maryshaffer8474 3 года назад +1

      One of my brothers specializes in marrying seniors in nursing homes.

    • @eggplanthose
      @eggplanthose 2 года назад +2

      Carson and Mrs. Hughes was a lovely story line.

    • @lower_than_furries9727
      @lower_than_furries9727 2 года назад

      If only lord Merton's children were as nice as their father..they were an absolute cunts, abomination to humanity.

  • @markmarderosian4025
    @markmarderosian4025 3 года назад +104

    This storyline made me realize just how fleeting a concept "royalty" is and how fragile. Without the will of the people to buy into it, there's no power. Royalty might have thought they ruled by divine choice, but it was all just chance and then built with the illusion of power where none really existed. Without the support of people (and the military), in the end, they were no different, were they?

    • @blissinchains
      @blissinchains 3 года назад +21

      The same with democracy, or communism--or any governmental system. If you can't control the people, you can't control anything.

    • @TheMcKenzieHaus
      @TheMcKenzieHaus 2 года назад +12

      At the end of the day, all power comes from the people.

    • @Luboman411
      @Luboman411 2 года назад +2

      It wasn't an illusion of power held by the masses. If you messed around with the Russian czar when he had full control of his armies, you were liable to get shot or sent to a Siberian exile. It was REAL SCARY POWER. The problem came when the armed forces lost faith in the czar as a leader, which came about when the idiot decided to fling millions of his loyal men, unprepared, against the mighty German war machine from 1914 to 1917. That horrific war of attrition embittered most of the soldiers. So when the czar called on these soldiers to shoot starving mothers in St. Petersburg in February 1917, they instead turned their guns against him. Within days of this vast mutiny of soldiers the czar lost all of his great powers.

    • @dan_38
      @dan_38 2 года назад +2

      @Luboman411 sadly, all of those were self-inflicted wounds by the czar himself. He lost the faith in his men because he did not want to reveal his true secret, that his son was hemophiliac. He had no supplies, because go figure, abusing ur workforces means loss in reliable work, and no food because the farmers weren't evenly distributed by the nobility of Russia. He sent millions to die to keep allusion, but each ultimately led to his murder in a rakety basement in the woods

    • @dreamiesnoona6423
      @dreamiesnoona6423 2 года назад +4

      It makes one humanise these royal or aristocratic figures who love to be shrouded in mystery. Ultimately, they are all humans in poverty or in richness.

  • @jdstep97
    @jdstep97 4 года назад +89

    3:43. The Dowager wasted no time ringing that bell. You know she's ready to be out of the presence of the Princess.

  • @flyboy152
    @flyboy152 3 года назад +40

    Edith: You don’t usually have much trouble complaining
    Violet: *death stare*
    Hey, she got that sass from you. 😀

  • @taroman7100
    @taroman7100 2 года назад +31

    I like how curt the Princess is to everyone and how she fumes with resentment and contempt.

    • @gragokboy
      @gragokboy 2 года назад +10

      I think she is a realist. They were surrounding her with pleasantries when she knew that her life from that day onwards was going to be unpleasant through no fault of hers.

    • @stonem0013
      @stonem0013 Год назад +6

      @@gragokboy no fault lol. The russian aristocracy had plenty of faults, believe me

    • @davidcorruthers78
      @davidcorruthers78 Год назад +4

      @@stonem0013 certainly didn’t help they still had serifs when everyone else gotten rid of that system

  • @latinguy67
    @latinguy67 2 года назад +36

    This scene gives the fans the best, three-dimensional view of the Dowager Countess: human, primal and emotional. Also provides that her dignity and the way in which she must be perceived, topped all those things. Paradoxical class.

  • @adriangilbert5364
    @adriangilbert5364 3 года назад +35

    I thought this was the best storyline of the season. Finally some background and exposition for the Dowager and battle ax though she is, we got to see tenderness and abundant humanity from her, as well as the depths of her complexity and integrity.

    • @ChaoticNarrative
      @ChaoticNarrative Год назад +3

      In her own words; She's a woman of many parts.

  • @LollyGagChannel
    @LollyGagChannel 3 года назад +23

    `Never complain, never explain`
    `You do usually have much trouble complaining` 😂

  • @kritishdadu9828
    @kritishdadu9828 2 года назад +17

    "I will never again receive an immoral proposition from a man"
    why did I just shed a tear?

  • @kachi2782
    @kachi2782 2 года назад +77

    The princess' lines are so wonderfully written.
    Poverty since birth is a hard thing but i think it is harder to fall from prestige and privilege into poverty.

    • @kbeautician
      @kbeautician Год назад +1

      Yes.

    • @arandomambipom9444
      @arandomambipom9444 Год назад

      Wholly disagree

    • @fujoshirants9609
      @fujoshirants9609 Год назад +7

      I experienced that and it jars you. It took me years to settle into this life and I am still not used to it. The financial crisis of 2008 humbled alot of people.

    • @kachi2782
      @kachi2782 Год назад

      @@arandomambipom9444 Really ? Why ?
      Better the devil that you know since birth don't you think.

    • @kachi2782
      @kachi2782 Год назад +1

      @@fujoshirants9609 I am sorry to hear that. And yes the ongoing crisis is humbling a lot of people, except the super rich who are just getting richer and richer.
      Were you born wealthy or did you go from regular to wealth to broke ?

  • @leenaleewitch3731
    @leenaleewitch3731 3 года назад +23

    The princess is savage. I love how she greets her husband 🤣🤣

  • @jackjones3657
    @jackjones3657 4 года назад +199

    What a great show this was. The acting, the writing, the attention to historical detail were top notch. I'm not sure I share the British idea that even the best series' need to last no more than 6 seasons.

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 4 года назад +6

      The sixth year of episodes seem kind
      of rushed compared to the first five
      years -- But, there is the film and also
      (Feb. 2020) rumors of a second
      film.

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 4 года назад

      They excepted on Dr Who

    • @elamplough1
      @elamplough1 4 года назад +7

      @Flightof2Owls It's true that a lot of British TV shows don't last as long as American ones but there are exceptions, like a police drama called Heartbeat that aired for 18 years (there were 372 episodes overall!). Generally speaking though, it's believed that a popular TV series shouldn't last too long in case the script and acting wears thin and it drops in popularity. In other words, people like a good show to end while it's still good.

    • @elamplough1
      @elamplough1 3 года назад

      @Flightof2Owls Sorry, didn't mean "believed" to sound weird, obviously not everyone shares the same opinion but it's what you might call the general opinion within the British TV industry. Writers and producers get a lot of criticism for letting great shows turn boring over time.

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 3 года назад +2

      @@elamplough1 Downton had much to offer but honestly the show HAD jumped the shark.

  • @Knappa22
    @Knappa22 10 месяцев назад +5

    What’s lovely about this is that it truly shows the human condition. Ask any person of senior years how they feel and they’ll usually say they feel they are the same person as they were sixty years ago. Age brings experience, and an ability to reflect but it doesn’t change the essence of who we are

  • @gerardcollins80
    @gerardcollins80 4 года назад +229

    "I didn't know if you had your luggage with you?"
    "I have no luggage, I have no possessions to put in my luggage."
    When the airline looses your suitcase.

    • @stalstonestacy4316
      @stalstonestacy4316 4 года назад +8

      It's funny because it's true

    • @barbarat5729
      @barbarat5729 4 года назад +4

      Loses. Its loses.

    • @markmh835
      @markmh835 4 года назад +8

      @@barbarat5729 -- "It's." It's "it's," not "its." 😊

    • @kimidanger1150
      @kimidanger1150 4 года назад +9

      @@markmh835 love this haha :) when people who try to smarmily correct others grammar make their own mistakes! its a youtube comment for dowager sakes, who cares about correct grammar or spelling?

    • @davidthaler7018
      @davidthaler7018 3 года назад +2

      @@kimidanger1150 Right...because IT’S perfectly OK to forget about the correct use of the English language on RUclips.

  • @user-ih6vs3eg3o
    @user-ih6vs3eg3o 4 года назад +108

    Oh no Edith got the look!😂

  • @phalynwilliams4119
    @phalynwilliams4119 3 года назад +11

    I love 💕 the way Violet and Isobel became such close friends.

  • @elisaronchi672
    @elisaronchi672 4 года назад +156

    "I didn't know if you'd have your luggage with you"
    "I have no luggage. I have no possession to put in my luggage"
    And I'm like "Yeah, okay, but chill a bit, dude"

    • @davidthaler7018
      @davidthaler7018 4 года назад +42

      Elisa Ronchi How “chill” would you be if you had to flee your homeland with nothing but the clothes on your back and were “rescued” by the woman who ALMOST ran off with your husband?

    • @elisaronchi672
      @elisaronchi672 4 года назад +4

      @@davidthaler7018 lol, true, but the situation made me smile

    • @MaximilianvonPinneberg
      @MaximilianvonPinneberg 3 года назад +13

      It was almost comedic but then you realise that what she says is the truth and she really has no possessions.

    • @carlycrays2831
      @carlycrays2831 3 года назад +16

      @@MaximilianvonPinneberg And remember, she's a princess. Violet is just an English Countess, a title which wouldn't hold a ton of meaning on the wider European stage. And here this princess has absolutely nothing and even had to borrow a nice evening dress from this country countess who almost stole her husband.

    • @williamsstephens
      @williamsstephens 2 года назад +8

      @@carlycrays2831 I assure you, during the Dowager Countess's lifetime the British were the world's greatest superpower. The Russian nobility were fabulously wealthy, but they were also effete Francophile dilletantes who utterly oppressed the people of Russia. (Most of them spoke only French, btw. Completely ignorant of Russian reality.) They did much to create their own sad fate.

  • @xs10086
    @xs10086 3 года назад +23

    The princess is so grand and intimidating

    • @taroman7100
      @taroman7100 2 года назад +1

      and she's still really pissed about her outcome.

  • @ethanjorgefazon4152
    @ethanjorgefazon4152 4 года назад +80

    Please. PLEASE! make a spin-off about that time in Russia!!

    • @seabirds
      @seabirds 4 года назад +5

      That would be worth watching!!

    • @farhoudfalahatimarvast1187
      @farhoudfalahatimarvast1187 3 года назад +4

      But I’m sure we’d all be disappointed! No one can play Violet better than Maggie Smith herself ❤️ A young Violet really requires a young Maggie Smith. So unless there’s a time machine to bring her here....

    • @l.a.3479
      @l.a.3479 Год назад

      ​@@farhoudfalahatimarvast1187 Plenty of good actresses could play a young Violet. Natalie Dormer comes to mind.

  • @omarchandler4983
    @omarchandler4983 3 года назад +14

    “Last time we met the circumstances were rather different.”
    “I don’t remember.”
    “I think you do.”

  • @EmpireProductions1
    @EmpireProductions1 3 года назад +47

    Princess Kuragin has every right to treat the Dowager Countess as such. She could have become a divorcée overnight if her husband had run away with Violet. It's painful to watch her having to be in a mere countess's hospitality in a foreign land.

    • @luxaholicanonymous2577
      @luxaholicanonymous2577 3 года назад +15

      Not to mention she lost all her wealth. A princess with no home nor possessions.

    • @taroman7100
      @taroman7100 2 года назад +6

      She lost everything. Reduced totally to a humiliating status.

    • @williamsstephens
      @williamsstephens 2 года назад +4

      The Russian landed gentry made the French look quite benevolent. I spend no time bemoaning the revolution they absolutely deserved.

    • @smsucks7174
      @smsucks7174 Год назад

      The Prince and Dowager’s characters were written to be quite amoral

    • @remycallie
      @remycallie 8 месяцев назад

      There were several hundred princely families in imperial Russia and literally several thousand princes. Actually a much more common title than a British Earl. The sons and daughters of the Tsar were NOT called "prince" or "princess" but rather "Grand Duke" and "Grand Duchess." *Their* children were called imperial princes or imperial princesses, but this was not the same title as the ordinary title of prince that Prince Kuragin has in this story. The only thing that really bothers me here is that the Prince and Princess would have spoken fluent French and they probably would have spoken to Violet in French, not English. As Peter the Great said "I speak French to my court, German to my soldiers, Russian to my peasants, and English to my horses."

  • @gautamsinha878
    @gautamsinha878 4 года назад +38

    Dame Maggie Smith......Totally Inimitable & Spot ON !! Cheers from India!

  • @luxaholicanonymous2577
    @luxaholicanonymous2577 3 года назад +51

    “The circumstances were rather different.” The dowager was in Russia with her husband Lord Grantham for the royal wedding and she was about to run away with Prince Kuragin when suddenly the Princess Kuragin managed to stop them. Apparently the princess chased them via horse carriage and she opened their carriage door and dragged the dowager off her carriage and into the Princess’s carriage ordering the driver to bring the dowager back to Lord Grantham 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Now the Princess is powerless with no money to her title.

    • @luxaholicanonymous2577
      @luxaholicanonymous2577 3 года назад +10

      Lindsey Barrow - unfortunately she doesn’t really have a choice now. Like the princess mentioned to the dowager “the circumstances were rather different” plus if it wasn’t for the dowager she would still be in Hong Kong working as a nurse.

    • @luxaholicanonymous2577
      @luxaholicanonymous2577 3 года назад +4

      @crush broke - do they really need to own homes all over Europe when Royals are mostly all related to one another? They can just graciously stay from a relative’s palace/castle all over Europe. Plus in some countries you need to be a citizen of their own country in order to own property.

    • @l.a.3479
      @l.a.3479 Год назад

      How is that funny (🤣) to you?

  • @GoldenRose116
    @GoldenRose116 4 года назад +78

    I loved this storyline so much, wish it lasted longer. Isobel and Violet are so sweet together

  • @MrMrremmington
    @MrMrremmington 3 года назад +13

    “ I will never again receive an immoral proposition from a man.” Poor thing.

  • @neilhorner9197
    @neilhorner9197 4 года назад +25

    Maggie Smith is an amazing actress. Bravo!

  • @albustran4855
    @albustran4855 3 года назад +21

    I dun have words to describe Maggie Smith's acting skill. She is just... marvelous.

    • @l.a.3479
      @l.a.3479 Год назад

      Obviously. The words are "don't" or "do not."

  • @JMac7395
    @JMac7395 Год назад +6

    I doubt Prince Kuragin was still in love with Violet. I think he was using their past entanglement to emotionally manipulate Violet, so that he would live out the remainder of his life in comfort. Fortunately, Violet is too smart for that😉

    • @carlycrays2831
      @carlycrays2831 Год назад +2

      This is what I always thought. I mean, maybe he loved her a bit, but mostly he just needed a nice place to live.

    • @renatewest6366
      @renatewest6366 Месяц назад

      Yes but with a spouse like that who could blame him.

  • @cerenerturk
    @cerenerturk 3 года назад +7

    Don't you feel hope from the soundtrack? Anytime I hear it, varying emotions come to my heart and go. But in all of them there is one common and steadily remaining feeling, hope.

  • @kokoeteantigha389
    @kokoeteantigha389 2 года назад +2

    That hollow echo of footsteps on a wooden floor, it brings back fond memories from many wonderful years now long gone.

  • @AquaFonic
    @AquaFonic 4 года назад +11

    The actress who played the princess also played DAGMA the sister of Queen Alexandra back in Edward the 7th 1975 as the mother of Nicholas 2nd Tzar of Russia SHES an amazing actress amazing to see her in this too bravo

    • @carl44acq
      @carl44acq Год назад +1

      She also played Eleanor of Aquitaine in the 1978 BBC series The Devil's Crown.

    • @AquaFonic
      @AquaFonic 8 месяцев назад

      @@carl44acqshe also appeared in THE CROWN too twice

  • @Messier45_Pleiades
    @Messier45_Pleiades 4 года назад +16

    I never liked Prince Kuragin who was so willing to abandon his wife to poverty for a life of luxury. No loyalty.

    • @elamplough1
      @elamplough1 4 года назад +5

      His character is based on a manipulative and untrustworthy Russian nobleman from the book War and Peace.

    • @mathewcole7848
      @mathewcole7848 3 года назад +5

      I got the impression that Prince & Princess Kuragyin were separated during the Revolution or the Civil War. It's very easy to assume that even the most dearly loved person is gone forever, when separated under those circumstances.

    • @johndawid8059
      @johndawid8059 3 года назад

      Didn't like Prince Kuragin because he willingly abandoned his wife, etc. etc? Sheesh, I'd have delivered that nasty old woman to the Cheka myself before I bailed outta Russia! Bet they didn't have any kids...talk about frigid!

    • @aronspidle138
      @aronspidle138 Год назад +1

      @@mathewcole7848 They were. In another scene, somewhere, it is explained that they were arrested together, but then imprisoned separatley. The princess was released from prison before he was, and put on a boat leaving the country, headed for Hong Kong. In the chaos and destruction of revolution, and when so many disappeared never to be heard from again, it would indeed--as you say--be all too easy to assume and believe that the princess was dead. Esp. after five years.

  • @rachaelm7084
    @rachaelm7084 4 года назад +12

    She just said that them being there will stop them from tearing each other‘s clothes off! ☠️

  • @6356190
    @6356190 2 года назад +5

    Maggie Smith, Penelope Wilton and Jane Lapotaire are wicked! Awesome British actresses.

  • @MeMeDaVinci
    @MeMeDaVinci Год назад +2

    "Nothing is more tedious than other people's misfortunes."

  • @shafur3
    @shafur3 4 года назад +20

    Granny looks beautiful love her outfits

  • @ShowToSpeak
    @ShowToSpeak 3 года назад +32

    You see why Dowager Countess is the boss. She returned the favor may be five decades later to the Russian princess, just when she needed it the most, and the very same woman whose husband the dowager tried running away with. That is maturity level : epic. She may have tricked everyone wearing the mask of a traditional woman but it was she who played the boss all thru, albeit silently.
    Writers take notes, that's how you balance gender when writing a script. One despises women being pitted against other women while writing the character.

  • @nina1522
    @nina1522 2 года назад +5

    I want a series of 'prequel' movies, about Violet's adventures in Russia, about Robert and Cora's courtship and the early days of their marriage, Isobel and Matthew's life before they moved to Downton.

    • @flyboy152
      @flyboy152 2 года назад +1

      The first two would be good, but Matthew as a solicitor doing wills, taxes, and contracts? Yawn. Remember in the UK, solicitors do not argue at trials, so no interesting courtroom dramas.

  • @slytherinnyc
    @slytherinnyc 4 года назад +21

    ahh!!! Jane Lapotaire (princess kuragin) she's magnificent...she played Princess Alice in The Crown i saw recently...magnificently!
    maggie of course is creme de la creme.

    • @JudgeJulieLit
      @JudgeJulieLit 4 года назад +2

      Thank you for identifying Jane Lapotaire; I had seen her in Edward VII as a Danish princess, but here did not recognize her, expertly acting a Russian one.

    • @millardlim981
      @millardlim981 4 года назад

      Jane Lapotaire and Maggie Smith have not, sad to say, acted much together professionally. They were together in the National Theatre in the late 1960s but not much history together.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 3 года назад

      @@JudgeJulieLit the Danish princess she played in Edward the Seventh became Empress of Russia

  • @themermaidstale5008
    @themermaidstale5008 2 года назад +2

    Sometimes the Dowager Countess gets off her high-horse and has moments with Isobel. I’m was happy she was in Lord Merton’s and Isobel’s corner. Violet was instrumental in helping rescue Lord Merton from the “tender attentions” of his horrendous family.

  • @xadam2dudex
    @xadam2dudex 4 года назад +7

    The end scene was sweet that they were able to get along so well after the Dowager's illness

  • @EvaSofie
    @EvaSofie 4 года назад +15

    Violet’s face at 4:53 says it all. 💔

  • @7ajhubbell
    @7ajhubbell 4 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @DeanMoxley87
    @DeanMoxley87 Год назад +2

    I’ve just noticed that the Dress the Princess is wearing is the Dress the dowager wore in the very first episode

    • @carlycrays2831
      @carlycrays2831 Год назад

      I think that is partially why she is so mad. She is a royal princess, she is technically Violet's better. And yet here she is, wearing one of her old dresses. Violet is just a country girl from England who happens to be of nobility, but that was nothing compared to the Russians

  • @cyrilmauras4247
    @cyrilmauras4247 Год назад +1

    "The presence of strangers is our only guarantee of good behavior"! I'd say. The last time the princess was with the Dowager was in Russia when the princess pulled her out of the carriage in which she and the prince were running away together!

  • @LMays-cu2hp
    @LMays-cu2hp 2 года назад +3

    That scene was so very nice.

  • @m.a.b.devos-elsenaar7964
    @m.a.b.devos-elsenaar7964 4 года назад +12

    They play this so beautiful.

  • @jws1948ja
    @jws1948ja Год назад +1

    Yes, Lady Violet does remember. . .

  • @christoffellner84
    @christoffellner84 2 года назад +2

    Its pieces like these, that want me to see a series on the young (not yet) Dowager Countess.

  • @hrishikeshezhumavil
    @hrishikeshezhumavil 9 месяцев назад +1

    Considering the fact that Violet was manhandled by her hair that too by Irina and she still remembers...so, her stepping back and her timidness are clearly justified here. Also, in the scenes leading up to them meeting again, Violet is disinterested or nervous. regarding the Princess's arrival. Violet being on the receiving end, and not letting out her usual remarks is an interesting point to look on.

  • @dinar4240
    @dinar4240 4 года назад +6

    Could you please upload more videos of Thomas Barrow?

  • @puterboy2
    @puterboy2 4 года назад +10

    She’s as sassy as the Fairy Godmother from The Slipper and the Rose.

  • @anneball683
    @anneball683 3 года назад +1

    I luv Edith's quip about granny complaining.

  • @EyeLean5280
    @EyeLean5280 3 года назад

    "Never complain, never explain" is a line from an old 1930s Hollywood movie. I forget which one, but that line really stood out for me since I was a kid. In the movie, the romantic hero left the woman with that philosophy for a woman who was much less jaded.

  • @kahea2018
    @kahea2018 3 года назад

    I think I've been missing out 😂

  • @Neithie
    @Neithie 4 года назад +15

    The shit that happened in Russia... and knowing something like that happened to the love of your life. Its only recently I started to really learn and understand what exactly happened and it really was pretty terrible.

    • @earlofbroadst
      @earlofbroadst 3 года назад +3

      Lenin and company were not kind to their foes. Or the bystanders in the way. Or even many of their allies. But hey, what's a few million dead when they're the price of creating utopia? In the words of Joseph Stalin: "In order to make an omelette, you have to break a few eggs."

    • @annbowen9656
      @annbowen9656 3 года назад

      @Toki Wilcox 👍🏽👍🏽

  • @Eowyn3Pride
    @Eowyn3Pride 2 года назад

    Hope of romance even in elder years! 🥰 there is hope!

  • @philipchong8703
    @philipchong8703 4 года назад +5

    3:57 Mrs Crawley said Yikes

  • @JudgeJulieLit
    @JudgeJulieLit 4 года назад +8

    The post introduction need be reworded, to say that Violet did not "vow to never again" receive an immoral proposition from a man. She rues to Isobel, "I may never again receive" such proposition; "was I so wrong to savor it?"

  • @donalokeeffe7504
    @donalokeeffe7504 3 года назад +2

    "They can discuss syringes and stitches and stuff" 😂😂😂

  • @RojaJaneman
    @RojaJaneman 4 года назад +10

    I looooove me some Violet. What a character!!!

  • @lualncol
    @lualncol 4 года назад +5

    She's so good.

  • @perecerda4200
    @perecerda4200 3 года назад

    What's the name of the music playing at minute 5:20 ?

  • @bogdancristea9270
    @bogdancristea9270 Год назад +3

    I know Russians and Eastern Europeans in general (me being one of them) are rather straightforward and unkind, but this Russian lady is going over the top with her rudeness to her English hosts, who were not responsible, after all, for her and the Russian aristocracy's misery. It's true, we've only found out lately, that King George V personally made sure that his cousin, the tsar, would not be offered asylum in the UK, but that was an ill-advised and selfish decision that affected only one man and his family, the king could not have done anything to prevent the Russian disaster overall.

    • @l.a.3479
      @l.a.3479 Год назад +2

      I see your point, but she also, obviously, has understandable resentment toward Violet for almost running away with her husband back in the day.

  • @jeanmyers1787
    @jeanmyers1787 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic idea. Mr Fellows??????

  • @judylaaper4849
    @judylaaper4849 4 года назад +6

    I wish netflix Canada still had this show .

  • @cfrygirl
    @cfrygirl 7 месяцев назад

    Ohh please make a series about the Dowager when she was younger!!!!!

  • @Kotyk_Murkotyk
    @Kotyk_Murkotyk 5 месяцев назад

    Isobel: "I would so like to go to Russia. I'm afraid I never have."
    Princess Kuragin: "Then you've missed it!"

  • @ch1aka2
    @ch1aka2 4 года назад +34

    It's Princess Alice from The Crown? How can that be?

    • @courtneysimpson88
      @courtneysimpson88 4 года назад +6

      The actress is Jane Lapotaire.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 3 года назад +4

      What do you mean how can that be? Actors do play more than one part you know

    • @davidthaler7018
      @davidthaler7018 3 года назад +2

      I think it’s so cute the way young people think there was no life before The Crown, Harry Potter, or Game of Thrones.

    • @l.a.3479
      @l.a.3479 Год назад

      ​@@davidthaler7018 It's not just young people...🤦

  • @emiltiwaz1022
    @emiltiwaz1022 Год назад +1

    Jane Lapotaire is a magnificent actress. Watch her as Princess Alice Battenberg in The Crown S03.

  • @tr_g
    @tr_g Год назад

    Maggie Smith & Rade Šerbedžija! Very, very fine theatre actors.

  • @adamthevirgo9297
    @adamthevirgo9297 2 года назад

    Princess Alice from The Crown! That’s where I remember her from!!!

  • @uptoolate2793
    @uptoolate2793 Год назад

    Oh Lady Grantham, i feel your pain.

  • @chrishoo2
    @chrishoo2 4 года назад +5

    Has anyone else noticed that Lord Fellowes, while playing the part of The Prince of Wales in “The Scarlet Pimpernel”, was greeted by a Lady Grantham. I’m just showing off, I know.

  • @PriyaSingh-rs4uz
    @PriyaSingh-rs4uz 2 года назад +1

    love the grandmother

  • @jasonbatty1011
    @jasonbatty1011 2 года назад +1

    3:33 😂😂😂

  • @NeekoFreeman
    @NeekoFreeman 2 года назад +1

    I want a prequel but with Maggie Smith reprising her role haha