Two Proposals at Downton | Downton Abbey
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2020
- Isobel announces her engagement to Lord Merton but is met with rudeness and rejection from his two sons. After the deeply uncomfortable dinner, Atticus finally proposes to Rose despite his fathers' disapproval of her not being Jewish. Love truly conquers all in this episode!
Season 5 Episode 7: Rose introduces her new 'friend' Atticus Aldridge and his parents, Lord and Lady Sinderby, to the family. Later, Isobel announces her engagement to Lord Merton over dinner. Mrs. Drewe tells Cora Edith's Secret, and Cora sets off to find Rose in London and hatch a plan to bring Marigold back quietly. Finally, Atticus proposes to Rose despite their family's differences over religious beliefs.
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"A lack of compassion can be as vulgar as an excess of tears."
So very British and so very Violet. Love her!!! (I just said to myself, wow, she put Mary in her place!! LOL!!) … (After looking at the number of people watching these great clips, I guess a lot of us are missing Downton Abbey) PEACE to ALL.
Saw this just after it was said! I was going to write it if you hadn't.
Classic Violet! 😄
@@sheilaburns8977 And PEACE to you as well. How gracious of you!
@@jeanjennings5712 Good Day Jean. Thanks for your lovely response. It makes me smile when I read nice comments because, unfortunately, there are too many comments that are not so nice. So when I read a sweet/nice comment, it just feels good. Sadly, in the past few months, I've had to update my "goodbye" by adding ... and STAY SAFE and HEALTHY. Hopefully, you are feeling well.
Larry.... such a despicable character but sheesh.. that actor did a damn good job portraying it.
When you want to punch the actor it means they are doing a good job hha
Fun fact, he also appeared on Dragon's Den promoting his personal
caricature art painting business :)
I can't help but laugh at the thought of Larry sitting in car.
@@Lisa_MS64 in Matthew’s place so he’d die instead
I wished I could see more of Isobel and lord Merton. They seemed two young souls in old bodies
No one yeah I would love to have seen there wedding
I would love to have seen their wedding.
I wanted to see their wedding. I liked him so much.
Me, too!
I loved the scene where he assured Isobel that his proposal was a romantic one, rather than one of convenience. 💕
Oh, that little smile she tries to force for Rose's sake as she runs by... Isobel may be a control freak and a busybody but she has a good heart.
I agree. When Violet became ill, Isobel did not leave her side. I love their friendship. Penelope Wilton's face at the end of that scene breaks my heart. (A Brilliant actress) Such a HORRID person, Larry. Ugh!!!
Many busybodies do. She's as pushy as she needs to be to uproot old (money) recalcitrance IMO
totally agree with all three descriptions
She is hardly a busybody. You misunderstand that word’s meaning and her character. She is instead a loving, generous, giving person; think of all her service to others who are poor and downtrodden. It’s is Violet who is the busybody in a sense, but even that is insufficient. She spends most of her time in later seasons trying to dissuade Isabel from accepting Lord Merton’s proposal, all for selfish reasons. That is a good definition of a busybody.
@@Happybidr I agree completely that Isobel is not a busybody - that's not what the term means in reference to her, but I also disagree that Violet is a busybody as well. I think both women are very, very similar deep at heart which is why they actually get on very well sometimes;, but they show and hide their good sides in vastly different ways. They are both actually quite caring and considerate - especially when it comes to looking out for each other.
give Tom 5 minutes with him.
He's Irish, he only needs 2 ;)
TheIcelandicGeek He looked ready to box his ears with the way he stood up.
@@tc2334 I think several people at the table might have held Larry down and let Tom rearrange Larry's anatomy. And after that Lord Merton sit on him and let Isobel kick him in a sensitive area.
I wanted to cry when Isobel could only sit quietly - because of class rules and how women were seen as secondary to men - as that jerk Larry berated her for being “middle class.” And yet in that moment she proved how much class she has, in the utter absence of Larry’s.
“And suddenly we’ve slipped into a foreign tongue”😂😭
Poor Isobel she didn’t deserve that and I love how they have kept in touch with her even after Matthew's passing he was the only reason they even met
6:17 Oh man, that LOOK Violet sends Larry: "How DARE you talk about my friend that way?!"
Holy cow I got chills.
"Larry as my son I love you but I have tried and failed to like you."
This sums up so many parent-child relationships.
PERFECT
I just love how starting from 06:09 the camera takes in every person in the table and showing how offended everyone is after hearing someone talking so badly about member of their family. That shows how strong the family bonds are between Crowleys.
It must’ve been so difficult for Isobel to smile at Rose and Atticus after being humiliated so much.
I love carson's little nod to Mosley saying "open the dorm and get that bastard Larry out of here!"
Those sons are so selfish. Can't they see how happy their father is.
The actors playing this sons are ECSTATIC at the response to their performances
They are only thinking about their inheritance - they don’t care!
Larry is probably the most obnoxious and snobby character in Downton Abbey, and the complete opposite of his father who is the epitome of charm and good humour. It's funny, the two brothers must have been cast because they bear a physical resemblance to each other, and even a bit to their father.
the youngest one looks like the dad! The cheek bones!
@@MrPolicekarim I was thinking the exact thing!
@@MrPolicekarim He really does! But I'm glad he gave Larry the push at the very end, he'd had enough of him. After being married to their mum for 30 years, then he fell in love with Isobel, he was so happy to find a wife he loved and who was so kind. And of course his snobby, spoiled sons flatly refused to be happy for him.
The younger brother (Tim?) does resemble his father, the shape of his face, mouth, general expressions.
It’s crazy how they were talking about Lord Sinderby as if he was in the other room while he’s just across the table.
I think Larry and his brother are despicable. How the hell could these guys come from dear Lord Merton? I wonder what his late wife was like?
Apparently she was a witch and Lord Merton hated her.
A brood of vipers. As vicious as they are handsome.
You heard what their father, Lord Mertonn said, "they take after their mother in every way" apparently she was wicked and he hated her.
probably as bad as Susan
She was hell on wheels. They were in his words "very ill-suited "
The writing never let's you down. It's so exemplary. Those one liners are epic.
IT'S THE WRITING AND THE ACTING!!!
Better line?
Dickey to Larry:
"Larry as my son I love you but I have tried and failed to like you."
Or
Dowager to Larry's finance:
"Larry Grey has spoken to Mrs Crawley in a manner that in any other century would have resulted in him being called out and shot."
Or
Dowager on Larry's fiance:
"I would feel sorry for him if I didn't dislike him so much."
George, I think each line deserves a STAR!!! LOL!!! They are brilliant and are so on point!!!
WTG George!!
Each line deserves a gold star ... they are all great lines. PEACE to ALL ... and STAY SAFE and HEALTHY.
Outstanding!! Larry and his fiancee deserbed each other
I love option two.
Mabel Lane Fox is so winning; how did she ever fall for that drip Tony Gillingham? And Atticus and Rose are adorable!
Poor Isobel. She doesn't deserve to be treated that way.
One thing I'll say about these English aristos, at least they don't stab you in the back. They do it face to face! lol
Those are the friends who like to see the expression on their "friends" face as they twist the blade to disembowel them. They don't worry about stabbing enemy in the back as they just want them dead and done with asap so they can rob him of all he has. Powerbrokering corporation especially banks do this all the time.
It's easier and more bold to do it that way. No fear!
Lord Merton's late wife must have been atrocious judging by how her sons act
My thoughts exactly
Think about this, Tom never said anything to Larry when he put something in his drink but he was quick to defend everyone when Larry verbally berated them.
A lack of compassion can be as vulgar as an excess of tears, but Mary never learned, she’s full of herself, that was a slam into her face, and I was happy.
Lord Sinderby is such an unpleasant fellow. And Lord Merton's sons are incredibly horrible and cruel.
Lord Sinderby is just a man who knows the ways of the world & he has a charming wife, plus they have raised a darling son who is potty about Lady Rose & we all adore the lovely Rose so let’s give Lord Sinderby some grace for his grumpy demeanor for Rose’s sake!
Sinderby I don't think is that bad he is just rough and harsh, but in a "set in his ways" kind of way, he is not ill motivated or obnoxious, he seems to prioritize his stances and experience before charm and etiquette, extremely charming people tend to fail to have a backbone and consistence, his is in the other side of the spectrum, a flawed "unpleasant" fellow, but I really liked his introduction to the series, the series was to much "perfect" charming and elegant, he adds some reality and balances the scenes.
Sinderby does eventually thaw to Rose’s warmth, charm and joie de vivre. (It also helped that she saved his reputation when his mistress showed up at a family gathering.)
@@chrishoo2 lady rose was an incredibly obnoxious character lol I can’t deal with lily james’s overacting compared to everyone else
Cora: "Lord Sindabee I would remind you that we never changed our name" Cora's last name is Levinson which is undeniably Jewish, and she kept it because she was proud of her Jewish heritage. Sindabee was not.
That is not true at all.
Let's remember that he was really angry about Atticus marrying a Gentile girl.
No evidence of this
Sinderby, and Sinderby is his title, not his name
Her father kept it. Because it meant nothing to him or he would have married Jewish.
@@Furienna Well, she is certainnly a delightful, generous, warm-hearted shiksa, so there is that.
All these clips only make me want more....new episodes. I miss everyone!!
I felt so badly for Isobel in this scene. She didn't deserve to be treated or spoken to that way.
Go Tom!
I feel bad for the doctor. War hero, saved countless lives as a doctor... the only one that didn’t end up with anyone
He was such a classy, warm-hearted guy! I was rooting for him too.
Thomas.
The poor Isobel! this is heartbreaking!
Go Tom!!! If only he'd taken a round out of Larry as well
When Larry Grey attacks Isobel, Violet is just waiting for a man to shout "en garde!" like in the old days lol
I love all these dinner table scenes. Superb storyline and cast.
Oh Downton! How I love escaping with thee!!♥️
3:00 Jesus... seems that only Thomas and Mary noticed the heartbreak in Violet
Probably Thomas didn't notice Violet but he is thinking something under the same lines of her, he feels condemned to be alone too
Lord Merton is lovely and he and Isobel are perfect for each other. His sons were horrible and complete snobs.
Merton is kind of a know it all himself. I prefer Dr Clarkson
You can call Larry Grey an incompetent surgeon, because all he does is open up old wounds!
7:29 Dowagers subtle hand on Tom as he sits down... she supports him!
1:10 nothing was poured out, yet you hear the sound of trickling water X'D
I've thought about this all day...yes!
I can't believe how long ago this show aired already.😮
I know
I feel like I should unsubscribe to this channel as I spend most of my spare time watching all the clips! I’m Downton obsessed and it’s becoming over the top 😂
No worries, there are worse things to enjoy. It's completely harmless. Relax and be good to yourself.
Me too!!
I think all of us who are watching feel the same way. Love Downton Abbey our Guilty Pleasure!! … 😂 … (Among many other clips, I just watched Sybil's death scene and each time I boohoo like it's the first time I've watched it. Tom and Cora … Ugh!!! Such a heartbreaking scene. So well acted.) It's great to be able to watch my favorite scenes over and over (thank you RUclips for providing the venue and thank you to all of the folks who take the time to edit and share these wonderful videos). …. PEACE to ALL.
dont. most people here are also obsessed
Downton is my safe place in quarantine. You won’t understand 😫
I like Lord Gillingham but I would tell him Mary doesn't want him like that! And that he's got a beautiful, spunky woman sitting next to him who does. I don't remember her name but she's awesome and far too good for Tony!
Mabel Lane Fox is the "spunky woman" who is seated next to Tony Gillingham!!
@@christinekisuule7685 That's right! I remember her. I thought she was quite delightful!
Mable Lane Fox
Thank you.
Do you have the part where Isobel rescues Lord Melton from his house confinement?
SO GREAT!
Merton
7:08 aww😊❤
I am obsessed
What I really like about DA is we can find all sort of characters and personalities around, exactly the way they appear in our normal lives,, Larry, Mary, Isabel, Thomas, ,,,,,,, good and bad, nice evil. Some learn from their mistakes some don’t have the eyes to see. The difference between Edna and Jane, etc…….
As much as this was an intriguing storyline, I really would have liked to see Rose go with the bloke from the dance hall, not the singer but the guy who defended her honor and then showed up at the back door.
Oh, he was adorable. I think his name was Sam.
I dont know. I feel like once he found out who Rose really was it would have put him off. Im glad they didnt stretch that lier reveal story.
0:50 Cora putting Lord Cinderby in place.
Mary and whats-his-face had ZERO SEXUAL CHEMISTRY
Nature and yet they had a sexual romp in a hotel 😖
@@shefalikar It was all lust and no love. Apparently that seems to work for millions of marriages around the world.
Who is what's his face? Tony? She belonged with Blake all along. The pig incident was the only time we saw Mary SMILE like a human being. Pure joy being with him. They had chemistry. Didn't care for the man she eventually married.
@@barbarat5729 I agree. I liked her with Blake the best. He understood her, always got to the heart of her feelings whenever she had a problem and also made her laugh from her gut. That's pretty special whether prince or pauper. I'm thinking that being her uppity self, she thought he was too low for her. Ugh.
@@barbarat5729 Tony is so boring, I was rooting for Blake, he's more suitable with Mary even more than Henry.
And a season 7 of this marvelous show has been approved!
nope but the second DA movie has been confirmed
@@jettabear1988 I hope this is really happening!
@@jettabear1988 that was the same website I went to after searching to see if it was true but idk it wouldn't really make sense to have a 7th season of DA if the movie's already out. we'll see though 🤷🏻♀️
@@kristenkim The movie was good and all but it really was just one long episode not really a movie.
Has to be an irishman to go full throttle
I never got Isobel and Lord Merton. She was a better fit for Doctor Clarkson. I didn't like how they treated him in the show. Especially how Isobel isn't involved in her only grandchild's life, I don't buy it.
Omg I completely agree
Why wasn’t she involved? I stopped watching three seasons in
Violet is awesome
Lord Merton is one handsome grandpa!
Komuś jeszcze przypomina Jeremiego Przyborę? :)
Just realized that Larry took a shot at Cora with the different Nationalities with Cora being American.. LOL
Larry was basically a classist, anti-semite, xenophobe, and racist in todays political climate.
@@scorpioninpink so basically a Conservative TORY?
@@prettynerd4779 I don't want to mention a party as Labour and other parties also have a share of those types of people.
My word, you're right. I confess that one passed me by.
@@prettynerd4779 oh goody. A troll
Would like to have seen a Larry/Lord Cinderby interaction. :)
Rude and disrespectful
How can I watch the full movie?
6:11 Must've choked him to say that 😏
17 minutes ago yay! 😗
Such snobs!
I can’t think of a face more deserving of a punch than Larry.
One of the few dinners at Downton where you know all the guests and they have lines, unlike the first seasons who had background characters
I once went to a dinner as this and I tried so hard but I couldn't do it. My hands were all over I ditch the forks and knives.
And suddenly we've slipped into a foreign tongue !
Actor who play larry look very much alike of Barty Crouch Junior in the harry potter
adriana lai you mean dr who
...afterthought: having not seen the movie as yet are the dreadful sons of Lord Merton dealt with? I have an idea for the brilliant writer, Lord Fellowes
, as though he needs any that clever soul : when / if Lord Merton & Isobel Crawley marry they could stay in her more modest, yet elegant home and the sons keep the grand estate he once was head of. When the financial fallout from the upcoming war kicked in the sons would have their comeuppance by the loss of all that splendour to the turbulent,changing times. Their characters are so insufferable and exasperating! just a thought
Lord Merton gave his estate to Larry & his witch of a wife and (it’s assumed) lives with Isobel at Crawley House (they married after Isobel & Violet rescued him from “imprisonment” by Larry).
I would like to be in a downton dinner just once...
5:20 taking directions
I like Tony and Lane fox? Shes fiesty and a great character
♥️
Can Lord Merton say, Henceforth, you are disowned....?
He may be an ass but the other Merton son - the one who _isn't_ Larry - is fine as wine.
ぎょえっ💙😨迎え舌…
I always hoped Mary would end up with Blake. She really didn't deserve him though.
Mary needed someone like Blake. He had similar interest and humour. He would keep her in line and Mary wouldn’t have to baby him.
I was so on team Charles. I think Henry Talbot is good looking, but had little else to recommend him. Perhaps because there was not much of a story line for him until they got married.
¡Die Ehenvorschläge der obersten Schicht!
I wanted Mary to marry the Charles Blake character 😂
He's my choice too. Dont care for bird face Henry.
😎📺✌✌💎
Is there any Downton Abbey fan fiction out there that picks up on these unaddressed plot threads?
Rose darling Rose .........great acting
He managed to offend everyone at that dinner.
And Mary is so shitty with Edith
-N6 to the third power
Isobel didn't deserve that.
It strikes me that Rose never actually said, "yes".
Too bad Isobel is too old to have children as it would be sweet comeuppance for those two idiots to be blood brothers with Isobel and Lord Merton's child.
It's weird to see this and notice all of the little faux pas of all the diners. You're not supposed to sit romantic couples next to each other, talk/drink with food in your mouth, etc
Larry is a total sod.
-HN95 to the eleventh power
My family is getting bored of downtown abbey because of the amount I watch it
- i watch it complete: seasons 1-6 at least twice yearly. I have both dvd and blu ray releases....when it gets a 4K release i will buy that, too. 😎
😕 😞
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I didn't like either of Lord Merton's sons, they didn't even try to give Isobel the benefit of the doubt. They just saw her as a middle class woman and suddenly it's a catfight. They could have at least tried to for their father's own happiness, they were happy and in love, no one was taking their mother's place.
I've always disliked Mabel. Her and Tony were better for each other than Tony and Mary, but she accepted another woman's sloppy seconds. If she had any self-respect, she would have chosen a man who wanted her and no one else. She elected to be someone's second choice and that's just depressing.
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I liked Jack Ross better for Rose.