Great clip, exactly what i was looking for. Thanks for the knots too. I would likely want 100' of rope, with the 50' and multiple pullies i would be frustrated to only get a few steps before i have to set it all up again (and in case of large gaps between anchors)
Well it took me several days to find out the only logical confirmation for moving logs without machineries and tools...your video. After seeing people pulling logs with brute force and others using tractors, here we go with the old but always good, pulley. Thanks pal, appreciated!
An awesome cheat to add to my bag... At 59 I'm not the brut I used to be and can't eat fists full of ibuprofen to get through because of health issues caused by abusing it in the past... Anyway, this just may be the solution to a problem I've been pondering and I'm grateful to you for sharing this.
Pulled 140 Keystone Legacy blocks, 2 yards of 3/4 stone, 2 yards of Road Base, 3 yards of dirt, a yard of sand and 250 pavers 40 feet up my backyard hill for construction of a view deck using you double pulley method and a large modified cooler....and I'm 66 years old. You're ever in Carlsbad CA the beers (many) are on me. Much appreciated!
This is a great video. I keep ropes and an assortment of pulleys in my hunting and climbing gear all the time. It surprises me how few understand the usefulness of pulley systems and how to utilize them properly. Even a smaller man like me can lift or haul tremendous weight with the right gear.
Another excellent video, easy to understand and enjoyable to watch. If you are interested we might be able to meet up and I might be able to show you some other simple rope work to up your skills and point out some pitfalls that people can end up creating because they are not fully aware of some of the physics that can adversely affect the safety and effectiveness of pulling systems. Some of the specialties I teach to emergency responders are high level/high angle rope rescue, confined space rescue and ice/water rescue, all of which utilizes rope work in life critical situations. I have been a professional rescue technician and emergency services instructor for decades and would offer to pass on some of the applicable skills you might find useful. I live in Fredericton NB so we are relatively neighbors geographically. Just an offer if you are interested. I am a new subscriber and as I have commented previously I am really impressed by your channel.
I’m sure there must be a point of diminishing return on increasing the number of pullies, I wonder how many pullies that would be. Most people here (Oregon) call a pulley a block. Lots of logging here.
properly configured, every pulley adds an advantage, but that said, the more weight you're moving, the heavier the rope and pulleys need to be to take the strain. It also becomes more complicated. For most bushcraft applications, a couple pulleys, or 3 at most will solve the problem
I think you would be surprised by the number and quality of small pulleys available for climbing and rescue. For not much money you can build a very substantial pulley system.
Very useful info! I do have a pulley and some rope, but the fixed objects and far and wide in between, does having a longer rope to further fixed object reduce the strength advantage?
I don’t believe you changed the force needed to move the log with one pulley, but you did change the direction of force. Which can make the weight feel easier to move especially if you use your body weight. When you added another pulley you created a force multiplier of 2x, so it should of felt like half the weight. Appreciate the video.
One pulley reduces force needed when it's attached to the moving object. If the single pulley was attached to the tree (fixed object) then it would simply redirect and not be a force multiplier. When it's attached to the moving object, you have to pull 2 feet of rope for every one foot of movement of the object. That's why it's a force multiplier. That's why the math works.
is that advanced slip knot actually a bowline? i dunno. anyway, i must be a slow learner but i"ll try this in the upcoming deer season. last year in deep snow, uneven ground and in a snaggle is where my buck decided to lay down. i had a "tired" back for weeks after tipping him into the sleigh. thanks greg.
The bowline makes a loop that doesn't tighten as you pull the working end, and is easy to untie; this one tightens as you pull - but is very easy to untie. I'll have to figure out what it's called.
Can confirm. Son in law dropped the zero turn mower into a ditch and I decided to muscle it out. Took months before I got back to good mobility. Gotta realize you just don't recover the way you used to.
Actually, yes... The size of the pulley does make a difference. A larger pulley sheave will have less friction than one with a smaller sheave, but generally speaking, it isn't a huge difference.
@@340wbymag That's correct - that's why I said "much of an effect" - but the point is that bringing 2 small ones is better than bringing one large one in terms of multiplying force.
The knot you are calling a slipknot is actually a simple overhand knot. The knot you don't know what it's called is actually a slipknot, because it slips apart when the tag is pulled. Secondly towards the end when you start using the 2 pulleys I would recommend to tie the rope to the anchor point tree instead of the tree being moved. This allows you to pull from a point that is higher so that you are using more of your body weight to pull downwards and back as well as a larger group of muscles, therefore using your back muscles less and less of a lifting upwards motion.
The knot ()at ruclips.net/video/xERB9Jk4Loc/видео.html) uses an overhand knot (as does many knots), but it is not just an overhand knot. My understanding is that it's called a "pony knot". To your second point, to gain the mechanical advantage using the tree you'd need another pulley to make that work. BY pulling up on the log you only need two pulleys to get the Fx3 advantage.
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Great clip, exactly what i was looking for. Thanks for the knots too.
I would likely want 100' of rope, with the 50' and multiple pullies i would be frustrated to only get a few steps before i have to set it all up again (and in case of large gaps between anchors)
Thanks for the very useful ideas!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks, that's the same size pulleys we found at Mom's in the barn! Appreciate seeing how to use them.
Well it took me several days to find out the only logical confirmation for moving logs without machineries and tools...your video. After seeing people pulling logs with brute force and others using tractors, here we go with the old but always good, pulley. Thanks pal, appreciated!
My pleasure! Thanks :)
same here!
An awesome cheat to add to my bag... At 59 I'm not the brut I used to be and can't eat fists full of ibuprofen to get through because of health issues caused by abusing it in the past... Anyway, this just may be the solution to a problem I've been pondering and I'm grateful to you for sharing this.
Hope it works for you!
Awesome, learn a clove hitch, bowline and double fisherman knots. They will be invaluable for this kind of work!
Pulled 140 Keystone Legacy blocks, 2 yards of 3/4 stone, 2 yards of Road Base, 3 yards of dirt, a yard of sand and 250 pavers 40 feet up my backyard hill for construction of a view deck using you double pulley method and a large modified cooler....and I'm 66 years old. You're ever in Carlsbad CA the beers (many) are on me. Much appreciated!
Wow man thanks! My God that must have been a lot of work!
Well explained and covered. The physical examples made a big difference for me too:)
Thanks
Excellent solution I am looking for this weekend
Best of luck
This is a great video. I keep ropes and an assortment of pulleys in my hunting and climbing gear all the time. It surprises me how few understand the usefulness of pulley systems and how to utilize them properly. Even a smaller man like me can lift or haul tremendous weight with the right gear.
You get it man!
Awesome thanks! A Pony Club knot! Lol used to tie up a horse😁. Learned it as a kid.
Thanks!
Interesting video.Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you!
Another excellent video, easy to understand and enjoyable to watch. If you are interested we might be able to meet up and I might be able to show you some other simple rope work to up your skills and point out some pitfalls that people can end up creating because they are not fully aware of some of the physics that can adversely affect the safety and effectiveness of pulling systems. Some of the specialties I teach to emergency responders are high level/high angle rope rescue, confined space rescue and ice/water rescue, all of which utilizes rope work in life critical situations. I have been a professional rescue technician and emergency services instructor for decades and would offer to pass on some of the applicable skills you might find useful. I live in Fredericton NB so we are relatively neighbors geographically. Just an offer if you are interested. I am a new subscriber and as I have commented previously I am really impressed by your channel.
Thanks for the offer man I'll keep that in mind.
Great tips!!
Glad it was helpful!
I’m sure there must be a point of diminishing return on increasing the number of pullies, I wonder how many pullies that would be. Most people here (Oregon) call a pulley a block. Lots of logging here.
properly configured, every pulley adds an advantage, but that said, the more weight you're moving, the heavier the rope and pulleys need to be to take the strain. It also becomes more complicated. For most bushcraft applications, a couple pulleys, or 3 at most will solve the problem
I think you would be surprised by the number and quality of small pulleys available for climbing and rescue. For not much money you can build a very substantial pulley system.
Thank you sir
All the best
Very useful info! I do have a pulley and some rope, but the fixed objects and far and wide in between, does having a longer rope to further fixed object reduce the strength advantage?
No that should not meaningfully affect the equation.
@@outdoorsonthecheap thank you very much for the content and the quick response!
Cheers man!
I don’t believe you changed the force needed to move the log with one pulley, but you did change the direction of force. Which can make the weight feel easier to move especially if you use your body weight. When you added another pulley you created a force multiplier of 2x, so it should of felt like half the weight. Appreciate the video.
One pulley reduces force needed when it's attached to the moving object. If the single pulley was attached to the tree (fixed object) then it would simply redirect and not be a force multiplier. When it's attached to the moving object, you have to pull 2 feet of rope for every one foot of movement of the object. That's why it's a force multiplier. That's why the math works.
is that advanced slip knot actually a bowline? i dunno. anyway, i must be a slow learner but i"ll try this in the upcoming deer season. last year in deep snow, uneven ground and in a snaggle is where my buck decided to lay down. i had a "tired" back for weeks after tipping him into the sleigh. thanks greg.
The bowline makes a loop that doesn't tighten as you pull the working end, and is easy to untie; this one tightens as you pull - but is very easy to untie. I'll have to figure out what it's called.
Can confirm. Son in law dropped the zero turn mower into a ditch and I decided to muscle it out. Took months before I got back to good mobility. Gotta realize you just don't recover the way you used to.
Yep :)
What if their is no trees to hook up a system
Then you have to find something else, or drive a post into the ground.
Is it easier with a bigger pulley?
No, size of pulley doesn't have much of an effect, it's the number of pulleys that multiplies force.
@@outdoorsonthecheap thanks, I did think that
Actually, yes... The size of the pulley does make a difference. A larger pulley sheave will have less friction than one with a smaller sheave, but generally speaking, it isn't a huge difference.
@@340wbymag That's correct - that's why I said "much of an effect" - but the point is that bringing 2 small ones is better than bringing one large one in terms of multiplying force.
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Dig this rig
Thanks man
The knot you are calling a slipknot is actually a simple overhand knot. The knot you don't know what it's called is actually a slipknot, because it slips apart when the tag is pulled.
Secondly towards the end when you start using the 2 pulleys I would recommend to tie the rope to the anchor point tree instead of the tree being moved. This allows you to pull from a point that is higher so that you are using more of your body weight to pull downwards and back as well as a larger group of muscles, therefore using your back muscles less and less of a lifting upwards motion.
The knot ()at ruclips.net/video/xERB9Jk4Loc/видео.html) uses an overhand knot (as does many knots), but it is not just an overhand knot. My understanding is that it's called a "pony knot". To your second point, to gain the mechanical advantage using the tree you'd need another pulley to make that work. BY pulling up on the log you only need two pulleys to get the Fx3 advantage.
5 minutes in and you haven't even shown us the 1st thing about police how's anybody supposed to live their life and learn things with 5 minutes of wasted time times every single person that watched your video that's think about it if a 100 people watch your video you just wasted 500 minutes of people times
It's not a video about police...
Go pet your dog.
8977 you wasted your time typing stupid comment