Buell Makes More Changes to Super Cruiser

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  • Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2024

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  • @KennyQuestShow
    @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +7

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    • @tomtraynor5384
      @tomtraynor5384 Месяц назад

      A warranty is only as good a companies solvency. To be determined.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@tomtraynor5384 always do your do diligence with any financial transaction.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@tomtraynor5384 one should always perform due diligence with any financial transaction.

  • @algee0218
    @algee0218 Месяц назад +34

    No perimeter brake? That's one thing that makes a Buell a Buell.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +4

      Exactly.

    • @backroadbeetle4781
      @backroadbeetle4781 Месяц назад +4

      yeah I'm sorta sad about that part and have expressed it to them. But we'll have a more reliable Brembo setup. Also there will be options outside of the base model introductory release.

    • @LJSiar
      @LJSiar Месяц назад +1

      Its heavy.

    • @JAyy781
      @JAyy781 Месяц назад +1

      I was never a big fan of the look but I understand the functionality. Regardless, I don’t mind that the super cruiser won’t have it. They should’ve been more open on suspension vendors and exhaust suppliers. I emailed SC Project and they claim they have no plans with Buell currently. Gonna have to wait and see what transpires.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@JAyy781 expect little support in year 1. Roland used his pipe and outfitted a SC muffler, it was repurposed from another project, he explains it in his video.

  • @davincho1111
    @davincho1111 Месяц назад +5

    As a sportster owner myself I think of a second bike all the time (keeping my sporty😊) and buell was an option at 20k… they lost me at 24k… now I’m seriously looking at the Indian FTR it has a 2k discount at the moment so is around 14k to 18k right in my budget, with all the riding aids you can think of, it looks amazing and warranty is 24months and I have two dealerships within 50 miles !!

  • @TotorMuh
    @TotorMuh Месяц назад +2

    This is 170 hp cruiser getting picked apart. Power to weight is still nuts. The “parts bin” is a pretty awesome parts bin to pull from IMO. I don’t get the negativity but to each their own. The bike 23.9k if you put a deposit down. If not 25.9k. The only thing that wasn’t done right was showing the RSD to everyone because that was the expectation.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Fair assessment. The consensus that I’m seeing is folks want to see what they are paying for and not just go on specs. Looking forward to the suspension vendor reveal

    • @TotorMuh
      @TotorMuh Месяц назад +2

      @@KennyQuestShow FOX shocks.

  • @hugieflhr03
    @hugieflhr03 Месяц назад +6

    I’m diehard Buell fans and they blew it on the adventure bike. All they needed to do was take a stock Ulysses and fit the engine! I wouldn’t mind ditching the perimeter brake on the adventure is that means it comes with a 21 inch or even an 18inch front rim. I currently own a 2009 Ulysses and IMHO it was a very underrated motorcycle

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      Ulysses is legendary

    • @hypefxx9011
      @hypefxx9011 Месяц назад +2

      Still got my 09 xb12xt and it it still a beast.

  • @permutatechguy
    @permutatechguy Месяц назад +6

    Keep providing in depth videos like this sir!

  • @tonyheymunkets
    @tonyheymunkets Месяц назад +8

    I'll just cruise on my sportser like you do all bikes are fast as long as I can take on the cars i'm OK

  • @mikeskidmore6754
    @mikeskidmore6754 Месяц назад +6

    The Adjustable Showa suspension on my 2008 Buell Ulyesses works very well .. Your Air cooled HD engine is a boat anchor.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      I know and I love it so

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      The Showa could show up on the Super Cruiser. Details coming soon look for announcement around Oct 1

  • @backroadbeetle4781
    @backroadbeetle4781 Месяц назад +14

    I'm probably their biggest fan, but I'm so over not having an idea of how the engines will be manufacted. From my understanding all their prototypes utilize leftover parts recieved from the purchase of the company. It's extremely easy to fuck this all up. I also live in Oregon and ABS is a must on consistently rainy oily roads (it's literally like ice). I'm at the point of just buying a GSX-S1000GT for a superbike touring bike. I don't want to stress. It's also $12,000 cheaper 😢

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      Oh that 1000GT is nice. I also like the V100 Mandelo from Guzzi. But yeah Bill Melvin Jr. CEO is a liquidation specialist not a manufacturer so I’m sure he’s leaning on past documents like purchase orders and potentially former employees to navigate this.

    • @backroadbeetle4781
      @backroadbeetle4781 Месяц назад +2

      @KennyQuestShow I joined a FB group for the V100 and it's jam packed with significant issues. Like broken off exhausts, head gasket leaks, coolant hose clamps that can't be reached, snapping rear shock recall, leaking drive hub seals, rocker arm rods coming undone, starter falling apart in the engines, and then there's the whole fact that Moto Guzzi doesn't like paying for warranty work and the shops are overwhelmed making it a 6mon process for a fix. It's a horror story. The most I saw with the GSX-S1000GT was a noisy timing chain with a cruddy auto tensioner, and cruise control activation. But customers bring their bikes in, a few days goes by, and their bike is good forever. That Suzuki is literally the only option currently for having your cake and eating it too. Sorry for the long reply haha

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      @@backroadbeetle4781 Suzuki GT1000+ for the win then!

    • @backroadbeetle4781
      @backroadbeetle4781 Месяц назад +1

      @@KennyQuestShow it's just so ugly 🥺

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@backroadbeetle4781 it looks like a Japanese sport bike. 😌

  • @kblo7619
    @kblo7619 Месяц назад +1

    Allow me to explain something. When adding a front rotor & caliper to the front. That’s not taking away from your value. That’s adding to your value & trust me better stopping is what you want.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      Allow me to explain that in this case 2 doesn’t mean better than 1. It’s different technology. According to published documents and interviews the perimeter is designed to work better than dual disc on bumpy roads, allows for lighter wheels. But perhaps the new regime is right, it’s too complicated, nobody cares, 2 is better than 1.

    • @terrellgarren7125
      @terrellgarren7125 Месяц назад +1

      Pompous and wrong. Congrats.

  • @springer91977
    @springer91977 Месяц назад +3

    Giving up the perimeter brake for dual disk is an improvement.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Erik Buell said in an interview the perimeter rotor works better on bumpy roads than dual rotors and allows for a lighter wheel.

    • @chrismartin500
      @chrismartin500 Месяц назад

      Allows the front wheel to be lighter but not brake better.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@chrismartin500 Erik Buell says it brakes better on bumpy streets than a dual rotor system

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@chrismartin500 link to Erik Buell Interview ruclips.net/video/opug59J_F9M/видео.htmlsi=RAefkvb87k5fBWKs

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@springer91977 link to Erik Buell interview explains rotor benefits in street ruclips.net/video/opug59J_F9M/видео.htmlsi=RAefkvb87k5fBWKs

  • @leward
    @leward Месяц назад +7

    Where did you get the info that they eliminated the dual injector system? Not sure why they plan on ditching the perimeter brake, even if the performance is not quite up to par as a dual setup (only relevant during track days).

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      During my interview with a Buell engineer, the information is disclosed at timestamp 6:50 of this video ruclips.net/video/TNyFvaAGiz0/видео.htmlsi=s0BKNGL9zgpmN5zS

    • @leward
      @leward Месяц назад +2

      @@KennyQuestShow Appreciate that! Also, in case you were curious I just got confirmation from a Buell rep that the move to dual disc is to keep up with global export requirements.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      @@leward interesting…must be a new requirement

    • @davidshrader4048
      @davidshrader4048 Месяц назад +1

      The conventional dual disc systems allows them to very easily integrate a wheel speed sensor for ABS. ZTL actually created many more problems than it solved and was never embraced by the industry.

  • @eliinthewolverinestate6729
    @eliinthewolverinestate6729 Месяц назад +4

    I like the perimeter brake on my Buell. I heard from sport bike riders "oh one rotor. I have seen enough". I think the super cruiser looks like a honda rebel. I don't want something that looks like a Rebel. I thought Nascar was involved with the Buell engine heads when it went from 1125 to 1190. I am thinking about the Super Touring to replace my Ulysses. But want to ride one first. No perimeter brake would make a difference. When I can get 2 adv bikes for the price of one Buell. At least they aren't super expensive like Motus MST.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      It does give off rebel vibes 😂 what do you think about the squared off aesthetic 🤖 on the Super Tourer?

  • @jtnelson89
    @jtnelson89 Месяц назад +10

    I actually think deleting the perimeter brake is a plus. Yeah, you can lighten the wheel with a perimeter brake, but it brings other issues

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      You’re probably right, it just takes away from the Buell character we’ve come to know, like a springer front end on a Harley, you look for it.

    • @mikeskidmore6754
      @mikeskidmore6754 Месяц назад

      @@KennyQuestShow Springer Front ends were outdated by the 1950's ..

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      @@mikeskidmore6754 it’s an analogy

  • @PaulinaMorrilo
    @PaulinaMorrilo Месяц назад +2

    Im a sports bike rider I want the fast feel on a cruiser , @ 175hp at 11,500 redline .

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      You’re the target demographic for the Super Cruiser! Rear sets, lightweight and fast!

  • @mikeskidmore6754
    @mikeskidmore6754 Месяц назад +3

    Sounds a bit expensive unless you consider that EBR's were up in the $40,000.00 range it seems I recall.
    They really need to stick with the single outside Disc Brake.. My 2008 Buell Ulyesses has Chinese wheels on it .. A rear wheel bearing failed at 18,000 miles.. I found out that Buell upgraded to 3 larger wheel bearings instead of two smaller wheel bearings in 2009 or 2010 .. Buell did not stop Production in late 2009 when HD announced the Closing. I think they kept building more bikes from available parts through 2010.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      The farther removed from the Buell lineage the bike will create its own identity. We’re at this point with the Super Cruiser. New frame, a modified Helicon derived power plant, bolt on parts from the warehouse parts bin that could be interchangeable with your favorite after market brand.

  • @IronBornRider
    @IronBornRider Месяц назад +3

    Great video! I’m in the same boat. I just like the cruise…the super cruiser would be cool but probably more bike than I need.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      I mean a little throttle now and again isn’t a bad thing, is it? But I don’t need all the bandwidth to have fun out there!

  • @bvailes775
    @bvailes775 Месяц назад +3

    As minor as it may seem to some, I have a feeling the lack of a perimeter front brake is going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people.

  • @roblow5522
    @roblow5522 Месяц назад +3

    Very interesting, thanks for the info. No matter the price I don't think I would buy on the first or the second year. But then I wouldn't buy one in the fifth year, not my thing.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      You’re welcome, thanks for watching. Not sure if you’re in the majority but we’ll see.

  • @xb12stt08
    @xb12stt08 Месяц назад +1

    I think there has been some misleading promotion like noted. Buell 2024 is not Buell 2008. They’re trying to get the Harley crowd appeased and saying that they’re making changes from feedback shows who they wanted input from. $50 lost, also as noted in the video.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      They are certainly targeting the only market Buell feels will appreciate this bike, the cruiser sport rider/ hooligan. The only consumer basis they know of are owners or fans of the dyna/fxr and M8 platform low rider S. It’s a niche of a niche.

  • @adventurevehiculist
    @adventurevehiculist Месяц назад +4

    The single brake setup is not better then the traditional design. I'm not surprised to see them finally letting go of that gimmick

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      Gimmicky and more expensive. It’s not a super bike and track focused like thier hammerhead super bike.

    • @adventurevehiculist
      @adventurevehiculist Месяц назад +2

      @KennyQuestShow that is true. If there was a place to have it, it was on the super cruiser and not the high performance models. Still tho, I know a few buell owners and the front brake is always a complaint lol

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@adventurevehiculist gotcha.

  • @mikeskidmore6754
    @mikeskidmore6754 Месяц назад +4

    I can't justify the Price of any New Harley other than maybe the Pan American. If you want a heavy Low Performance air cooled bike with a nice Paint Job, then you are buying mostly for prestige.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      Pan AM is a fun bike to ride, perfect for the Harley enthusiast who doesn’t want to buy another brand to get liquid cooled higher revving performance.

    • @JAyy781
      @JAyy781 Месяц назад +1

      @@KennyQuestShowThey tried that with the V-Rod but all the Harley “purists” were still against the fact that it was Porsche design liquid cooled motor. The problem with Harley is their consumers, boomers who are afraid of change and technology.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      @@JAyy781 ironically Eric Buell was on the team started that project and inspired him to go water cooled for his next Buell engine, which ended up happening in 2007 in the Rotax collab.

  • @motorcyclemichael2182
    @motorcyclemichael2182 Месяц назад +2

    I have the cash right now, but I’m not going to preorder one and wait two years minimum to accept delivery.
    I wanna ride now and I never purchase a bike without having at least sat on it. It’s all about how a bike feels for me. It’s gotta fit just right or I move on
    Also, it should have a 5 gallon fuel tank…minimum 5 gallons 😊

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      You can sit on one at bike week, at their offices, at Sturgis, Laconia. The pegs are mid rear set not true mids. But yeah if you haven’t even sat on the prototypes then I wouldn’t commit either.

  • @403punk3
    @403punk3 Месяц назад +3

    Not sure how tall you are but the only thing I really hate about my sportster is at 6’ tall I am cramped. I will probably stretch my sportster in the future to be honest.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      6ft. I adjusted the foot controls slightly, for longer rides I have a bung king highway bar to stretch out on. Less cramped on it than all the current mid control softails.

  • @markmcintosh7095
    @markmcintosh7095 Месяц назад +3

    I had a Buel. It was a fun bike, but the single brake rotor would fade when at the track.

  • @zachkuby87
    @zachkuby87 Месяц назад +2

    I recently got an email from them asking for the 1000 dollars down to hold my super cruiser i asked for a list of specs, parts manufacturers, heres the reply i received
    We are currently working on finalizing Super Cruiser details, and will be sure to update everyone as soon as possible!!!

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Same. They said they’ll announce their suspension vendor next week and will release version 3 of their production sample bike early next year.

  • @blackbuttecruizr
    @blackbuttecruizr Месяц назад +5

    Buy an Indian FTR if you want an American made Hooligan bike...

  • @halerider
    @halerider Месяц назад +11

    Chris not correcting you on the engine is a giant red flag imo, even if he only has 6 months experience. Regardless, the price they’re asking vs what you get is wildly out of proportion.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      It’s bananas 🍌

    • @jonnymac8925
      @jonnymac8925 Месяц назад

      Let's be realistic, they are a very small motorcycle company that makes hand made bikes by order for the most part. They designed and built a bike from scratch to compete with much bigger companies so yah, it's not going to be cheap lol the price is very competitive for other muscle cruisers.

    • @halerider
      @halerider Месяц назад

      @@jonnymac8925 I don’t know if I agree with them being a “very small motorcycle company”, but I see what you’re saying.

  • @waynejohnson3214
    @waynejohnson3214 Месяц назад +3

    I concur 100% on the urine sample bottles.

  • @Idlehandzx2
    @Idlehandzx2 Месяц назад +2

    The perimeter break being dropped is the biggest plus that was a terrible breaking system and a massive liability

  • @BangChief_AllIsOne
    @BangChief_AllIsOne Месяц назад +4

    Damn, wanted that 1190SC to be the 1st new bike to purchase. Too bad it got the smack-down. I guess it'll be an Indian, now.
    Salute

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      Cheers!

    • @1190Shellback
      @1190Shellback Месяц назад

      That’s probably a great decision. The super cruiser is definitely not best choice for first bike. It’s going to eat Harleys and $hit scouts but I’m pretty sure there is going to plenty of new leather and Super Cruisers coming to extremely sudden stops.

    • @BangChief_AllIsOne
      @BangChief_AllIsOne Месяц назад +1

      @1190Shellback Not a 1st bike, a 1st 'Bought New' bike. I Godspeed a VTX1800C, daily, like I stole it.
      Salute

    • @1190Shellback
      @1190Shellback Месяц назад +1

      @@BangChief_AllIsOne omg the widowmaker! And you’re still alive!? Get the Super Cruiser! This is a once in a lifetime opportunity! You really wanna tell your grandkids how you almost got the motorcycle that revolutionized the cruiser industry?!😂👍

    • @BangChief_AllIsOne
      @BangChief_AllIsOne Месяц назад +1

      @@1190Shellback Lmmfao! It's called a fvckin widomaker!? Better stay single then!
      Salute

  • @SB-cv7vd
    @SB-cv7vd Месяц назад +1

    FOX is making shocks for Super Cruiser.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      I already posted the announcement here: ruclips.net/user/postUgkxZ83u99zOi_cbNNqxiopz7W8HUPf0YanB?si=Y3IUe0VO9trXy-b2

  • @teemann8379
    @teemann8379 Месяц назад +1

    I actually like the brakes, i wanted the shock, wheels and pipe.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      We’ll see how the wheel looks with the dual rotors, the wheel could change as well.

  • @carlbruhn1772
    @carlbruhn1772 Месяц назад +5

    Great job drilling down.

  • @permutatechguy
    @permutatechguy Месяц назад +2

    Great video on the buell. I was talking to Pedro and he said yeah they may not be all that they said they would be. Go watch Kenny’s video. How dare you pull all that out of it. To me it isn’t the super cruiser then. We could take many other platforms and do exactly what they have done.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      That’s what I alluded to, to some 75% of the Super Cruiser performance is good enough, others more or less. For naked bikes it’s easier their SX is ready at $18,999.90 comparable to a KTM super duke 1290 RR. For cruisers you can build a nice bike off a HD or Indian for same money and have the cool parts to show for it.

  • @tld522
    @tld522 Месяц назад +1

    I was hoping it would stay the same as the day it first debuted. Sad they are changing everything

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      Definitely a disappointment for many of us. Version 3 will be released in January so let’s see what else they change. Thanks Tbone!

  • @403punk3
    @403punk3 Месяц назад +2

    The only service spot in Canada is in my home town of Calgary. Didn’t know that

  • @SleekHobbies88
    @SleekHobbies88 Месяц назад +4

    I'm all about My indian FTR 1200 s

  • @lukejohnson3612
    @lukejohnson3612 Месяц назад +1

    Got an 1125CR and I wouldn’t trade it for the world despite all its oddities. That said the new Buell seems like they don’t understand what made people follow the original company when it came to their bikes, as it stands now the 1190sx is the only model they have that’s even slightly appealing but I could turn around an buy a superduke for a bit more and have a much larger dealer network and electronic aids

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      The super duke RR and the SX are formidable rivals, so is the super cruiser necessary?

    • @lukejohnson3612
      @lukejohnson3612 Месяц назад +1

      @@KennyQuestShow I think they saw how popular the harley hooliganism has become and wanted to quickly cash in on it which is why they announced it so early in development

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@lukejohnson3612I can see that. But outside of a handful of DIY dyna stunt riders will there be enough buyers to sustain the company yet alone the model?

    • @lukejohnson3612
      @lukejohnson3612 Месяц назад +1

      @@KennyQuestShow Unfortunately I don’t think so at the new price point. They should’ve made a smaller engine at 100ish horsepower in a sportbike and naked and move in on the middleweight sales that the R7 has been dominating

  • @charlesrocks
    @charlesrocks Месяц назад +1

    I dunno man. I like the Super Cruiser. I’ll probably buy one.

  • @rodtsf50
    @rodtsf50 Месяц назад +1

    Good Stuff. Thank you.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Thank you for watching & commenting, I appreciate ya!

  • @partyguy9
    @partyguy9 Месяц назад +1

    What did you do to drop 30lbs from the sporty?

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      Most of the drop was from the removal of the stock exhaust. Changed foot control brackets to death metal racing shed 2lbs each, deleted guards.

  • @tonyheymunkets
    @tonyheymunkets Месяц назад +3

    I'm thinking 15 grand would be a fair price

  • @speaktruth247
    @speaktruth247 Месяц назад +2

    This bike is D.O.A.

  • @Rockybalboa541
    @Rockybalboa541 12 дней назад +1

    The power to weight, brakes and suspension is worth the 6k more than a low rider s. In order to get a low rider s near that power to weight you would have to spend 15k (parts plus installation)

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  12 дней назад +1

      Which could appeal to a small group of folks out there. Perhaps a current owner of a FXLRS. A ‘22 FXLRS can be had for $18k, plus the $15k you calculated that could be appealing. When the EL Diablo came out some folks were paying $33k out the door.

  • @weldermike7017
    @weldermike7017 Месяц назад +1

    Will they be racing in BRL any time soon?

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      I don’t think the Super Cruiser qualifies as a bagger. Perhaps their Super Tourer could qualify

  • @davincho1111
    @davincho1111 Месяц назад +2

    We all knew it was too good to be true

  • @lukefarris556
    @lukefarris556 18 дней назад +1

    Yeah I think the bike looks and sounds cool, but I’ll take an M8, I’ll be able to get cams, exhaust, and any other bits that will make the bike reliable, and PLENTY fast for street use, at those power levels I’d just rather have a Japanese super sport, I just really don’t see the point, especially at that price!

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  18 дней назад

      Thank you for posting! Yes It’s light, it’s fast but is it as durable as a Japanese bike?

  • @CTohdbld
    @CTohdbld Месяц назад +3

    The abs is bothering me. For my area it’s def needed. May have to get the $800 refund.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Noted! There are modes and traction control settings programmed into the ECM. I was told by the engineer they don’t have budget to hire a coder to reprogram the ECM.

  • @skandix
    @skandix Месяц назад

    Not a big deal on the changes, it is a cruiser after all. Get over it, the value is there.

  • @nbowling10trio
    @nbowling10trio Месяц назад +2

    I've heard the perimeter rotor tends to not last as long a dual rotor set up. I would prefer the single perimeter brake as long as a replacement rotor is reasonably priced

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Not sure on that maybe some out there with an older EBR will know 🤔

  • @geeeee8268
    @geeeee8268 Месяц назад +1

    Sportster is good. But it's probably for somebody 5.7 tops. Especially with mids

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      I replaced the controls and dropped them slightly, adding a bung king highway bar helps stretch out on longer rides. The result is better than a stock FXLRS set up. So no complaints at 6ft.

  • @michaeld8015
    @michaeld8015 Месяц назад

    I have given up on waiting for this. Guess it's going to be a new Indian or Harley

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Stands to reason that if you’re still not droolin and hyped at this point this bike is not a life changing ride. So yeah look at what is available now.

  • @JohnDoe-mp1yn
    @JohnDoe-mp1yn Месяц назад +3

    guess i'm just gonna get a Dyna Low Rider S, or, a built out FXR. disappointing.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      Outside of the weight difference you’d have an awesome build with either! Use carbon fiber wheels to save weight!

    • @permutatechguy
      @permutatechguy Месяц назад +1

      Consider an early 99-05 fxdx

  • @unknownwsc7764
    @unknownwsc7764 Месяц назад +1

    Would like to see this compare to my Sportster S

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Numbers wise the Super Cruiser is 50 HP more and 50 lbs less weight.
      Whether you a rider can take advantage of it is up to the rider’s abilities.

    • @unknownwsc7764
      @unknownwsc7764 Месяц назад

      @@KennyQuestShow About a $8,900 price gap for 50 hp. These two would be interesting comparison as I would consider these the first "performance cruiser" these two companies (Buell and HD) have ever made

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@unknownwsc7764 outside of the XR1200 collab back in 2009 it is for sure.

  • @tonyheymunkets
    @tonyheymunkets Месяц назад +2

    harley just needs a put in Pan American Motor in the Harley S I don't like radiators but they can sell it for $5000 less and kill this **** bike 150 horsepower for eighteen grand I'll take it

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Bring on the Bronx S! Or a Pan America S!

  • @stevecrawford7814
    @stevecrawford7814 Месяц назад +3

    I was interested in the Roland Sands design, not this crap they are selling now. Too bad.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      Straight to the heart of the matter!

    • @JAyy781
      @JAyy781 Месяц назад +1

      Very rare for a prototype bike/car to be remotely identical to a production model. Buell did a good job (so far) with keeping as original to the prototype as possible IMO

  • @thakery5720
    @thakery5720 Месяц назад +2

    This sounds like yet another end to Buell......

  • @MyFatherLoves
    @MyFatherLoves Месяц назад +1

    Well of course it wasn't going to come the same way it was advertised.

  • @diversityhobbit
    @diversityhobbit Месяц назад

    the concept looks way nicer than the final. That exhaust looks el terrible

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      lol, that exhaust is horrid. If i just had to swap out the exhaust and a couple other accessories to be where the concept bike is, this would be a super cruiser. But it’s going to require a whole lot more.

  • @JA-zh5xi
    @JA-zh5xi Месяц назад +2

    The buell will definitely win the award for the ugliest bike in its class. The cost is insane too.

  • @donniebaynard8430
    @donniebaynard8430 Месяц назад +4

    Put some saddle bags on that sportster. You, too, will be able to carry small Asian children in your saddlebags, like most Harley riders. DEI! 😂😂😂

  • @tonyheymunkets
    @tonyheymunkets Месяц назад +2

    I'd much rather put a 1275 hammer on my sportster

  • @CaffeineThrottle
    @CaffeineThrottle Месяц назад +2

    If they dropped the Ohlins suspension and the iconic front rotor I'm out.Also went with generic exhaust and turn signals. I can't believe they cut the frame you can't tell me they couldn't simply engineer a fix for engine removal and install. I was extremely interested in this bike but now it's just like a Japanese, German, Italian bike and probably not as good.👎🙄

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      Buell has indicated an announcement for their suspension vendor will be coming soon. The 3rd version of the production example bike is to be released in January.

    • @chrishavill6458
      @chrishavill6458 Месяц назад

      ​@@KennyQuestShow I saw in about video that they said ohlins would be available as an option. I expect there'll be an S or R model that comes with all the fancy options you want

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@chrishavill6458 if your referring to the Ken Kaplan video with Buell VP Chris Pobanz I saw it as well, Ken mentioned it, Chris did not acknowledge it. You may have to source the Ohlins through a Ohlins dealer separately from your bike purchase. The thing is Buell has only committed to a Saddlemen seat. We all see the Memphis Shade fairing and have heard the words said on video but the brand is not listed in the FAQ document which explains what is included. It’s still all speculation. Version 3 bike will be revealed in January.

  • @tomtraynor5384
    @tomtraynor5384 Месяц назад +2

    'Access cuts" in the frame? Hmmm.....

  • @radicalkonrad765
    @radicalkonrad765 Месяц назад +1

    I'm all for buell getting rid of fuel in frame but the perimeter brakes is their staple and should be kept also for the super cruiser that exhaust is awful that that new radiator looks nowhere near as good as the aluminum one

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      Erik Buell has also stated the benefit of the perimeter rotor is performance on bumpy roads. It’s very iconic. Version 3 of the production sample bike will arrive in January. Buell has said the raw finish radiator will return.

    • @radicalkonrad765
      @radicalkonrad765 Месяц назад +1

      @@KennyQuestShow I hope that is true. The super cruiser has the opportunity to be the only sporty cruiser on the market besides the new scout 101 some what

  • @Dcj01
    @Dcj01 Месяц назад

    Look at Arizona tea! They not greedy!

  • @maguslascivious4980
    @maguslascivious4980 Месяц назад +1

    if anything they should have done dual perimeter brakes no the same ol BS...
    You realize the exhaust and signals need to pass DOT and a SHIT TON of other countries safety BS.. and you can buy cute little LED signals anywhere... I'd be willing to bet that exhaust will be on the market as soon as the bike is..

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      They get a pass on the exhaust like everyone does. But you add up the bs parts that look like what you’d find on a Yamaha then do the math to replace and your better off buying their motor and frame and building your own

  • @stevefavia
    @stevefavia Месяц назад +1

    Find a nice used gen two Yamaha Vmax you’ll be happier!

  • @LJSiar
    @LJSiar Месяц назад +1

    Im about to do my deposit and i would really like to know where the bike is, Final, Final? You can because your not paying a Union dude 80K to do something an 18 year old kid can do.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      No information on if they are hiring union workers. V3 of the production concept will be released, Buell says in early 2025.

    • @LJSiar
      @LJSiar Месяц назад

      @@KennyQuestShow What I mean is Harleys are so over priced because the are way over paying to have them built by union workers. Around 82k

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@LJSiarahh. It’s hard for companies to reduce price once they get people accustomed to paying X price. Sadly if production moved to Taiwan and it reduced cost of goods sold they’d pocket the difference.

    • @LJSiar
      @LJSiar Месяц назад +1

      @@KennyQuestShow Or, Or you set up shop in Texas. No income tax, no cooperate tx, no pay roll tax.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      @@LJSiar or Montana

  • @zachkuby87
    @zachkuby87 Месяц назад +2

    I was with you till you said sportster lol.

  • @tonyheymunkets
    @tonyheymunkets Месяц назад +1

    You can get a sportser s for like what 15 120 horsepower and reliable I do like the looks of the spike better kind of it's not worth $26 thousand dollars I'm very disappointed I was looking forward to this bike I'd much rather just go buy a low rider s

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      I believe you’re in the consensus with that opinion.

  • @Phillzillaa
    @Phillzillaa Месяц назад +1

    🤘🤘🤘

  • @williamquire2115
    @williamquire2115 21 день назад +1

    The new harley is not in any way a value and value is not the reason people ride them , z I would advise you to do a little more research on this issue as to not make you sound like you are writing an article for which you know very little about. Harley = value ha ha ha

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  21 день назад

      It’s an editorial, op-ed piece. I appreciate a new viewer but before casting a stone I’d recommend you get a better snapshot, if you’re not invested or too lazy to engage then just move on.

  • @orenovadia6590
    @orenovadia6590 Месяц назад +1

    The exhaust has to be that way to save a ton of money on homologation, and turn signals and lights for the same reason.
    The dash is fine even if it's old.
    And the sportster s is such a like of trash it's not even a comparison..
    Also so long as it keeps the 17 inch rims if happy.
    Oh one more seriously the not black brake and clutch? It's sport bike style

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Yeah I thought black sporty levers, adjustable would be perfect. The engineer said, nah BOM reuse, folks are just going to change them out anyways. So tell me I’m buying a starter kit without saying I’m buying a starter kit at fully completed bike money.

    • @orenovadia6590
      @orenovadia6590 Месяц назад +1

      @@KennyQuestShow so....any Harley?

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@orenovadia6590precisely. So the engine and lighter frame is the value proposition that is costing $6k over the FXLRS or Indian Sport Chief with less warranty coverage and less third party part options.

    • @orenovadia6590
      @orenovadia6590 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@KennyQuestShow yes absolutely and exclusivity, you can't compare them even, one is an ancient air cooled maybe 100 HP on a good day over 600 pounds and longer by a few inches not to mention the suspension and tires..
      The super cruiser is a cruiser shaped sport bike, if anything I'd rather it have standard brakes so it'll be easier to get pads. And even if I go sportster s I've ridden it and it's not a sport bike it is in my opinion not road worthy but even so it's 50!!! HP down

  • @DeadRoman
    @DeadRoman Месяц назад +1

    Every novelty engineering feat that Erik Buell nuthuggers claim was game changing is 30+ years old now. Buell has never lead the industry in performance in any way.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      True his innovations, some quirky and some cutting edge are either intrinsic to HD model and Buell bikes or out of step with today’s design trends.

    • @ironken1796
      @ironken1796 Месяц назад

      I was a Buell "nuthugger" as you call it. No, Buells were not made to work over the Honda CRR-RR-RR-R or whatever it was. I owned 4 Air cooled Buells. The novelty engineering coupled with the V-Twin power made for a super fun and really good handling bike. You gotta appreciate it for what it was. Now I ride Austrian equipment that would decimate the Buells and handle amazingly but, I still miss those quirky Buell turds.

  • @5725Hurley
    @5725Hurley Месяц назад +1

    I would have spent 35k on that Roland Sands bike, but I'm not interested in this crap.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      I think that’s a fair price for the Roland Sands version. Though many speculate it did cost Buell well over $50k for it

  • @rubo1964
    @rubo1964 Месяц назад +1

    Sadly will become another over priced bike....rather stick with my VTX1800

  • @elithegreat6463
    @elithegreat6463 Месяц назад +1

    Good Move, this will probably be a pure shit-show of problems, as any new first year Bike is. And with no real Dealer Network, it smells like alot of pending hassle

  • @mikeskidmore6754
    @mikeskidmore6754 Месяц назад +2

    I bought a 2016 Yamaha FZ-07 in 2017 for $7,400.00 It eats Sportsters for lunch every day .. My Ohlin Cartridge kit cost $650.00 I still need to install a K-Tech shock on the rear. I never saw anyone ride a Sportster on a track day . I did my first Track day this summer age 63 then I hit a deer and have not been back for a second one.
    I passed everyone I encounter on Tail of the Dragon including many slow as sin Harley's who were too rude to pull off on the dozens of paved pull off parking areas.
    I was a snow ski racer and I raced some Motocross and I watch youtube videos how to ride. In two afternoons on Tail of the Dragon I really improved my cornering skills and confidence for an FZ-07 it was all second and third gear riding .. Not all that dangerous at lower speeds .. The biggest danger is a car or motorcycle coming from the opposite direction in your lane. Because face it there are a few Idiots out there.
    I head that my Aluminum Fuel in Frame: Frame was made n Italy on my 2008 Ulyesses.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      The FZ/MT07 is a great bike. No question it will rip on the streets.

    • @mikeskidmore6754
      @mikeskidmore6754 Месяц назад +1

      @@KennyQuestShow I outgrew the power of the FZ-07 but it cost less can get up to 58 MPG ..is smaller and lighter than most models.
      Luggage racks and Luggage cost me $2,000 more I paid $4,500 for the Buell and it came with side cases , a top case and a windscreen that had terrible buffering .. I upgraded to a Modstad windscreen that is more like a 2009 Buell Windscreen .

  • @DeadRoman
    @DeadRoman Месяц назад +1

    The super cruiser gonna fail 100%

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      You’re on record, let’s see what happens!

  • @Brittany-z1w
    @Brittany-z1w Месяц назад

    They went bankrupt once

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +1

      Twice actually, but who’s counting. ☺️

  • @turdbglr
    @turdbglr Месяц назад +1

    My Xdiavel is way cooler.

  • @coreygun
    @coreygun Месяц назад +2

    Great, that Super Cruiser looks shit - a mish mash of parts that don't go together - their old sports bike 1125/1190 swingarm, wheels and forks, a horrible looking frame, resulting in a horrible profile. Looks like a cheap chinese bike.

  • @brookcampbell2940
    @brookcampbell2940 Месяц назад +1

    The Super Cruiser is a joke. H-D will make a touring framed sportier bike like the original FXR touring. They already have the parts between the Road King and Low Rider ST. The touring frames have similar if not exact swing arm geometry as the original FXR, and can handle the unbalanced larger motors like the 121 and 135 crate motor. If the potential H-D comes out around $25,000 it’s over for Buell. It’s funny one of the key optical style points of this Buell is the triangulated frame, which of course Erik Buell helped develop when he was at H-D for the FXR. I’m sure H-D has been watching.

  • @jackwillson8099
    @jackwillson8099 Месяц назад +1

    Lol over priced trud lol

  • @chrismartin500
    @chrismartin500 Месяц назад

    LMMFAO. You will never get that Sporty to perform in any way shape or form like that Buell. I don't care how much dough you throw at that Sporty

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      Never said that, I said I can upgrade it to within my performance and financial capabilities and to me that’s value. In other words (I also said) I don’t need the Super Cruiser because I won’t take advantage of it.

    • @chrismartin500
      @chrismartin500 Месяц назад +1

      @@KennyQuestShow Well I mean, do any of us "need" the Buell? Probably not. I can see not wanting it because the bike can outperform you skills but I think you should ride one before you 86 the idea of it. Riding a bike that can perform will make you a better rider.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@chrismartin500oh if there’s a demo ride opportunity I’m there for sure. If the sky parts and the heaven sings during the ride I might make an irresponsible decision.

  • @Rhetorical346
    @Rhetorical346 Месяц назад +1

    You seem really confused about this bike. Yes, it's more expensive than an Indian Sport Chief. It has double the horsepower and it's 200 lbs lighter. They aren't even comparable bikes. You should do a little research before making videos.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад +2

      I’m not confused at all. I understand power to weight ratio, physics. The question I proposed is value. But Okay I’ll play your version, substitute Indian Sport Chief for Super Duke 1290 RR.

  • @stuartstogdill2406
    @stuartstogdill2406 Месяц назад

    How does Harley provide "value"? This is a truly ignorant video... the Super Cruiser is by far and away better than a Low Rider ST and an Indian Sport Chief.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      You say the Super Cruiser is “By and far away better” in what way? I’m saying the return on investment threshold is high in comparison to those others and IF I were to throw in a KTM super duke 1290 RR into the comparison the super cruiser is a utter failure in value. Also, how long have you worked for Buell?
      So your saying the Super Cruiser provides a better return on your money than a FXLRS or a Indian Super Chief? How about a Super Duke 1290 RR

  • @omw2fymom76
    @omw2fymom76 Месяц назад +2

    They change these things for all I care. I can't afford one anyway and will only ever be an unobtainable dream for a broke ass carpenter like me. I'm stuck with a 75 HP 650 lb early model dyna 😂.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      But still that’s an awesome bike!

    • @omw2fymom76
      @omw2fymom76 Месяц назад +1

      @@KennyQuestShow for sure love my dyna, its no super cruiser though . Would be nice to see these new bikes be more affordable. 25-30k for a motorcycle just seems like robbery.💯

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      @@omw2fymom76for us regular folk it’s do what you can with what you have. The M8 platform provides plenty room for HP and the new frame handles great. If your considering something newer than your Dyna there are many 2018-2020 FXLR Low Rider’s that are going for $10-14k, FXST Standards 2020-22’s $9-10k, Sport Glide’s $12-$14k. Then build them up from there.

  • @stephenb457
    @stephenb457 Месяц назад

    This video comes across like a hit piece meant to disparage Buel and their upcoming Harley killer.
    Very curious if you coincidentally start getting more help from Harley after making this.
    Did someone pay you for this video? It sure seems that way.
    No one wanted the perimeter brake. Cruisers are largely driven by looks and trends and dual front disc is what is trendy, not Buells perimeter brake.
    Unsubscribed, never to return to this corporate schill's channel.

    • @KennyQuestShow
      @KennyQuestShow  Месяц назад

      LMFAO! I’ve hit the big time, counter disparaging comments by Buell’s corporate team. This is the fourth video in a series covering the Buell Super Cruiser and conveys my reaction and thoughts on this bike based on my interpretation, where was I unfair? Also, have you seen any of my last several Harley videos? They don’t want to partner with me. if someone else’s opinion causes you discomfort then yes please go away, go far away. ✌🏼