@@imagelush5146 could I install the diamond metal over painted sheet rock in my kitchen backsplash area and install this natural stone veneer or is it too heavy? What's the solution if not. Rip out the dry wal and put up cement board? Or put some tyvek over the drywall first then diamond screen? I don't want to do tile or ledger tile stone I want it to be natural to match my stone stack fireplace.
I can tell you one thing soon as water gets in those joints it's gonna pop them off on top of that is not very good winter time installation but sometimes that's what the customer wants
As a mason in Canada I would fist fight anyone who tried to do this to my house with snow on the ground. "Don't worry we have a torch to help" hahahahaahhaha that mortar is going to freeze with water in it and will never bond properly.........To do this properly, tarp the work area and use salamanders for starters. 2nd the scratch coat on the mesh has to be completed and allowed to cure before you can even install the stone especially because this is dry bond. If you don't hire real masons this is what you get....I'd choke someone to death if they built a fire place in my house that looked like that and then asked me for money. Absolutely no concept of what a stone bond should be, 8 foot bed joints?.....really? And as a result of dry bond tiny slivers of stone all over the place? It's a shame that homeowners ignorant enough to accept this quality of work.....the procedure and technique on this job is just unacceptable
Well I would never hire you to work on my house lol he does the scratch coat as he goes because the mortar bonds to wet mortar 10x better than it does to dry mortar. The mortar will all dry as one and will be stuck in the lath instead of just being stuck on your scratch coat. And since you never mentioned using plastic mesh behind your lath I take it you don’t use it?..damn the material behind your stone is going to be rotting out and moulding in no time with no air space behind it. He should be using wetter mortar and back buttering his stones better too. The only thing you got right is using salamanders to keep it warm until it fully cures
Oh and 8 foot bed joints don’t look good but don’t matter when doing stick on stone, once it’s done the wall is bearing the weight of the stone not the stone
@@cshields987 How long does it take mortar to cure? How many heaters were running? Then look at how well it's tarped...you get what you pay for and you obviously couldn't afford me because you cheaped out and got a handy man instead of a proper mason ahaha
@@cshields987 just watched it some more and it gets worse the more i watch hahahahahahhahaha you ever lay a stone the size of a quarter berfore? you ever fuck the bond so bad you have to use a piece that small? hahahahhahaha
It turned out nice....to bad itll be layin on the ground in a year or two...no prior scratch coat....the mix is off...and its to heavy for screen mesh!! Ive been doin this for more than 20 years and ive seen it all!
Yes the mix was a little too stiff but doing a scratch coat as you go bonds a lot better than doing one and letting it dry before you lay. When you do it as you go all the mortar bonds together and becomes one. When you do it on top of a dry scratch coat it just sticks to the scratch coat and over time stones can pop off the scratch coat. And when it does you will see your scratch coat just as you put it on. That will never happen when you lay it on a wet scratch coat because it all bonds together as one
@@seanwilliams480 I have no hands on experience, what is exactly wrong? I did a world wide research, looks right. The scratch coat for example is applied as he goes, first he applies mortar to the lath, thats called the scratch coat. Then he applies it to the stone and sticks it to the scratch on the wall. From what i found, is that wet concrete bonds a whole lot better than dry and wet.
I don't understand the need for a scratch coat truthfully. I would think bonding into the actually lath would be stronger than a scratch coat. Feel like if the mortar wasn't cured properly or an issue, it would break loose. Atleast with the lathe, the mortar is wrapped all the way around it to grab.
The problem arises if voids are left for water to penitrate. This will freeze and eventually pop the stone off. Additionally, if the surface behind the lathe is not filled the stone will be able to be pushed back or flexed into the wall and will, again, break loose.
Serge, I discovered your channel a few weeks ago (I am a builder also, and I subscribe to all the top builder channels here on RUclips) ... your videos are very well done ... as good as any on RUclips, and better than a lot. I'm not sure why you don't have more subscribers, but keep putting out new videos and eventually you will hit RUclips's algorithm and you'll be over 100,000 subscribers before you know it. I will say this ... I think your best videos are the ones with you in them. Not being mean, but the person doing the voice over in this video is mono-tone and that makes the video less interesting. The info that he gives is great, but it's almost too formal sounding and it almost puts me to sleep. You, however, have a great personality that makes the videos more interesting, especially your sometimes imperfect English (not being mean when I say that ... your accent and the way you phrase your statements is interesting and will keep viewers drawn into the video much more than the mono-tone guy in this video. He does great camera work, though, if it is the same guy. Best wishes in the new year.... hope this year is a great one for you and your crew and for your RUclips channel.
Hi, thank you for your advise and inspiration. And yes the narrator is also the cameraman and editor. We will keep pressing forward. Here is the cameramans insta instagram.com/imagelush/ also here is our insta instagram.com/shemss.inc/
@@SHEMSS added you both on IG, thanks. The narrator's camera work and editing are solid. He captures every little detail, and does it better than any other builder channels on RUclips, in my opinion .... just get some RedBull in him before he does the voice overs / narrations =) Just kidding ... I see now that those videos where he narrates are part of your "Class" playlist ... his tone makes sense in that context. Thanks, looking forward to watching more content from you guys!
You cannot be more wrong. You really need to use a polymer modified cement or else the mortar won't last in a vertical application especially in freeze thaw climates. He used a bag mix with polymer cement in this video.
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How interesting I liked the whole process and mainly the quality
thank you
Beautifully done
Thank you! Cheers!
No scratch coat required?
That’s what I’m saying
Why do you not put in a scratch coat 1st?
Can you install over brick?
Yes
Awesome ! Thanx for the credits.
You're Welcome
Great video, why is it said cant you install directly on the sheet, are they talking about adhering directly to the cement board? If so, why not?
Because of moisture. Sheetrock cant handle it.
@@imagelush5146 could I install the diamond metal over painted sheet rock in my kitchen backsplash area and install this natural stone veneer or is it too heavy? What's the solution if not. Rip out the dry wal and put up cement board? Or put some tyvek over the drywall first then diamond screen? I don't want to do tile or ledger tile stone I want it to be natural to match my stone stack fireplace.
How much do u guys charge per square feet
7$
I can tell you one thing soon as water gets in those joints it's gonna pop them off on top of that is not very good winter time installation but sometimes that's what the customer wants
I love watching videos like this just to make fun of all the people that have no clue what the hell they’re doing
He did well
As a mason in Canada I would fist fight anyone who tried to do this to my house with snow on the ground. "Don't worry we have a torch to help" hahahahaahhaha that mortar is going to freeze with water in it and will never bond properly.........To do this properly, tarp the work area and use salamanders for starters. 2nd the scratch coat on the mesh has to be completed and allowed to cure before you can even install the stone especially because this is dry bond. If you don't hire real masons this is what you get....I'd choke someone to death if they built a fire place in my house that looked like that and then asked me for money. Absolutely no concept of what a stone bond should be, 8 foot bed joints?.....really? And as a result of dry bond tiny slivers of stone all over the place? It's a shame that homeowners ignorant enough to accept this quality of work.....the procedure and technique on this job is just unacceptable
Well I would never hire you to work on my house lol he does the scratch coat as he goes because the mortar bonds to wet mortar 10x better than it does to dry mortar. The mortar will all dry as one and will be stuck in the lath instead of just being stuck on your scratch coat. And since you never mentioned using plastic mesh behind your lath I take it you don’t use it?..damn the material behind your stone is going to be rotting out and moulding in no time with no air space behind it. He should be using wetter mortar and back buttering his stones better too. The only thing you got right is using salamanders to keep it warm until it fully cures
Oh and 8 foot bed joints don’t look good but don’t matter when doing stick on stone, once it’s done the wall is bearing the weight of the stone not the stone
@@cshields987 How long does it take mortar to cure? How many heaters were running? Then look at how well it's tarped...you get what you pay for and you obviously couldn't afford me because you cheaped out and got a handy man instead of a proper mason ahaha
@@cshields987 apparently nothing matters to this guy when doing "stick on" stone
@@cshields987 just watched it some more and it gets worse the more i watch hahahahahahhahaha you ever lay a stone the size of a quarter berfore? you ever fuck the bond so bad you have to use a piece that small? hahahahhahaha
It turned out nice....to bad itll be layin on the ground in a year or two...no prior scratch coat....the mix is off...and its to heavy for screen mesh!! Ive been doin this for more than 20 years and ive seen it all!
If you don’t see anything wrong at 2:28 and 4:25, there’s no point in pointing out all the other mistakes made in this installation.
Yes the mix was a little too stiff but doing a scratch coat as you go bonds a lot better than doing one and letting it dry before you lay. When you do it as you go all the mortar bonds together and becomes one. When you do it on top of a dry scratch coat it just sticks to the scratch coat and over time stones can pop off the scratch coat. And when it does you will see your scratch coat just as you put it on. That will never happen when you lay it on a wet scratch coat because it all bonds together as one
@@seanwilliams480 I have no hands on experience, what is exactly wrong? I did a world wide research, looks right. The scratch coat for example is applied as he goes, first he applies mortar to the lath, thats called the scratch coat. Then he applies it to the stone and sticks it to the scratch on the wall. From what i found, is that wet concrete bonds a whole lot better than dry and wet.
I don't understand the need for a scratch coat truthfully. I would think bonding into the actually lath would be stronger than a scratch coat. Feel like if the mortar wasn't cured properly or an issue, it would break loose. Atleast with the lathe, the mortar is wrapped all the way around it to grab.
My thoughts exactly
The problem arises if voids are left for water to penitrate. This will freeze and eventually pop the stone off. Additionally, if the surface behind the lathe is not filled the stone will be able to be pushed back or flexed into the wall and will, again, break loose.
Serge, I discovered your channel a few weeks ago (I am a builder also, and I subscribe to all the top builder channels here on RUclips) ... your videos are very well done ... as good as any on RUclips, and better than a lot. I'm not sure why you don't have more subscribers, but keep putting out new videos and eventually you will hit RUclips's algorithm and you'll be over 100,000 subscribers before you know it. I will say this ... I think your best videos are the ones with you in them. Not being mean, but the person doing the voice over in this video is mono-tone and that makes the video less interesting. The info that he gives is great, but it's almost too formal sounding and it almost puts me to sleep. You, however, have a great personality that makes the videos more interesting, especially your sometimes imperfect English (not being mean when I say that ... your accent and the way you phrase your statements is interesting and will keep viewers drawn into the video much more than the mono-tone guy in this video. He does great camera work, though, if it is the same guy.
Best wishes in the new year.... hope this year is a great one for you and your crew and for your RUclips channel.
Hi, thank you for your advise and inspiration. And yes the narrator is also the cameraman and editor. We will keep pressing forward. Here is the cameramans insta instagram.com/imagelush/
also here is our insta instagram.com/shemss.inc/
@@SHEMSS added you both on IG, thanks. The narrator's camera work and editing are solid. He captures every little detail, and does it better than any other builder channels on RUclips, in my opinion .... just get some RedBull in him before he does the voice overs / narrations =) Just kidding ... I see now that those videos where he narrates are part of your "Class" playlist ... his tone makes sense in that context. Thanks, looking forward to watching more content from you guys!
@@jayf9259 Thank you, we appreciate your feedback and we look forward to creating more content that everybody can enjoy!
You can install directly to sheetrock with the right thinset and the fireplace is electric
keep the comments going
I watched until the Spec-Mix came out. To bad you don't mix by hand. OPC/Lime/Sand.
Whats wrong with spec-mix ? It does the job
You cannot be more wrong. You really need to use a polymer modified cement or else the mortar won't last in a vertical application especially in freeze thaw climates. He used a bag mix with polymer cement in this video.
Spec mix is not bad to use at all but personal choice there
In my opinion the mortar is too dry.
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I’ve been in the game for a while now... looks nice but poorly executed
LOL, ok.
@@SHEMSS didn’t even do a scratch coat properly but it’s all good
@@atheisticallysound yup, you understand what Im talking about. Looks great! but it won’t last 10 years
framing hammer? Seriously guys? This is masonry
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