in the 1970s i worked for bt in the garage we used to paint the vans yellow with joseph mason paints we used a paint warmer then brush paint the vans came out great but got to leave under coat for 24 hours.
This is my first introduction to coach painting. (we just call it painting with a brush) I must say it is fascinating and thank you for the explanation and instruction. It seems like it's kind of a lost art. Cheers from the Shed
It's more common on preserved trains, canal boats, truck and buses. I think cars will be scrutinised for paint finish more closely, so I need to hone my technique.
I seem to remember my Dad having cans of 'Belco brushing cellulose' kicking around the garage for years. He may of had it to repair some bodywork on an old Morris Eight he had as his first car. I do remember being told that hand brushing high build cellulose primer was the normal way to go way back when. It was all going to get flatted back anyway, and was a quick, efficient way to get a substantial thickness of primer onto the panel work. Very interesting video, great to see the traditional skills being used appropriately for year of the vehicle. Good luck with your AC, I'm sure it will be absolutely beautiful when finished.
Very good, great presentation. Knew the painting side for coach painting finish would not be easy, but had no idea was so complicated. Glad you found supplier who could supply correct colour.
What a marvellous video. I intend to coach paint my BSA motorbikes. Thanks for a very informative introduction. Fantastic car by the way, absolute quality. I have subscribed. Best wishes, Dean, Retromeccanica.
Thanks for the progress report Ian. You might need a biger brush for the larger panels like the roof in order to get it even and cover the area quickly . The great advantage of hand painting is you get a much thicker layer of paint making it much more durable.Not an easy thing to do but I'm sure you will master it.
Interesting to see your artistic eye for colour ,getting the correct colour match not a easy thing but then working on old cars requires many talents. With summer on the way and warmer wither it will make the paint flow. The sprayer at work used £M cutting compound and a electric buffer to get a high gloss finish. Possibly somthing to look into. All the best.
@@russellnixon9981 Thanks Russell. Coach paint can't be polished the same way as a sprayed finish, as it loses that "wet" look. But some polishing is possible after it's hardened for a month.
I'd suggest a couple of things that may help. To eliminate dust you could make a polythene tent inside the garage, with a single opening - or get a pop up gazebo. Paint outdoors but bring in the panels to cure inside. And wet the floor to trap remaining lookairborne dust. Also to elinimate the ripples you could try blocking down with a long sanding block. Lots are available 70x400 and the longer the better. Those little 3M rubber ones will only feather local areas, but leave you with a load of undulations. Check panel truth with a flexible 3 foot steel ruler.
I can certainly vouch for the what is now called Tractol. I used it a few years when it was under a different name and it was incredibly forgiving for my first foray into coach painting. Once you get the feel for it, the whole process is very rewarding and so much easier to contain than spraying. The black I recall being particularly nice to work with and if you do happen to get dust in it, you can generally sand and polish it out without too much trouble for that perfect finish. I do like that you're keeping the unusual green of your car, it really does suit it well.
Found your site by accident!! What a fantastic journey through your restoration, love every episode. I had painted my MG magnette black and grey back in the 70s like you I only had a small garage to work in. Look great from a distance, of about a mile😂. Love your laidback approach, keep it coming ❤
@@ac2litre thanks Ian. I have a panther I have coach painted it before and I want to re do it just thinking of colour. It was originally silver and blue sides but I don't think you can get coach paint in silver.
It's sold by the litre, here in the UK, for about £15 UKP (excl. VAT) per litre. 1 US gallon is just under 4 litres. 1 Imperial gallon = 4.54 litres. 1 US gallon of Tekaloid should be enough for 3 coats on most cars. Available from: tools-paint.com/
At last i see some one doing it right as 1940s i see too menny motor cycles restord useing modern paints they in my opeinion are over dune just my opinion 75 years young biker still building and rideing reiterd thialand
in the 1970s i worked for bt in the garage we used to paint the vans yellow with joseph mason paints we used a paint warmer then brush paint the vans came out great but got to leave under coat for 24 hours.
That's interesting! I forgot to mention in my video that I tried warming the top coats for better flow.
This is all new to me about coach painting and frankly the finish on the parts that you have done are beautiful. Thanks for the explanation of it.
Thank you. Hopefully a follow-up video to appear in a few weeks.
This is my first introduction to coach painting. (we just call it painting with a brush) I must say it is fascinating and thank you for the explanation and instruction. It seems like it's kind of a lost art. Cheers from the Shed
It's more common on preserved trains, canal boats, truck and buses. I think cars will be scrutinised for paint finish more closely, so I need to hone my technique.
Amazing job 👍
Thank you :)
I seem to remember my Dad having cans of 'Belco brushing cellulose' kicking around the garage for years.
He may of had it to repair some bodywork on an old Morris Eight he had as his first car.
I do remember being told that hand brushing high build cellulose primer was the normal way to go way back when. It was all going to get flatted back anyway, and was a quick, efficient way to get a substantial thickness of primer onto the panel work.
Very interesting video, great to see the traditional skills being used appropriately for year of the vehicle.
Good luck with your AC, I'm sure it will be absolutely beautiful when finished.
Many thanks. I've read in old books about brushing cellulose, although it looks difficult, since dried cellulose tends to dissolve when painted over.
Very good, great presentation. Knew the painting side for coach painting finish would not be easy, but had no idea was so complicated. Glad you found supplier who could supply correct colour.
It was more difficult than expected, despite reading many articles from professionals and amateurs. Cheers.
What a marvellous video. I intend to coach paint my BSA motorbikes. Thanks for a very informative introduction. Fantastic car by the way, absolute quality. I have subscribed.
Best wishes, Dean, Retromeccanica.
Many thanks. I hope all goes well with your bikes :)
Thanks for the progress report Ian. You might need a biger brush for the larger panels like the roof in order to get it even and cover the area quickly . The great advantage of hand painting is you get a much thicker layer of paint making it much more durable.Not an easy thing to do but I'm sure you will master it.
Thanks for the tips, Russell. Hopefully I'll get it looking good.
@@ac2litre
Interesting to see your artistic eye for colour ,getting the correct colour match not a easy thing but then working on old cars requires many talents. With summer on the way and warmer wither it will make the paint flow. The sprayer at work used £M cutting compound and a electric buffer to get a high gloss finish. Possibly somthing to look into. All the best.
@@russellnixon9981 Thanks Russell. Coach paint can't be polished the same way as a sprayed finish, as it loses that "wet" look. But some polishing is possible after it's hardened for a month.
I'd suggest a couple of things that may help. To eliminate dust you could make a polythene tent inside the garage, with a single opening - or get a pop up gazebo. Paint outdoors but bring in the panels to cure inside. And wet the floor to trap remaining lookairborne dust. Also to elinimate the ripples you could try blocking down with a long sanding block. Lots are available 70x400 and the longer the better. Those little 3M rubber ones will only feather local areas, but leave you with a load of undulations. Check panel truth with a flexible 3 foot steel ruler.
Great suggestions. I've seen spray painters use those long blocks, and what you say makes sense. Thanks.
I can certainly vouch for the what is now called Tractol. I used it a few years when it was under a different name and it was incredibly forgiving for my first foray into coach painting. Once you get the feel for it, the whole process is very rewarding and so much easier to contain than spraying. The black I recall being particularly nice to work with and if you do happen to get dust in it, you can generally sand and polish it out without too much trouble for that perfect finish. I do like that you're keeping the unusual green of your car, it really does suit it well.
Thank you. I'd wondered about polishing out the dust. You have to wait at least a month for the paint to harden enough.
Found your site by accident!! What a fantastic journey through your restoration, love every episode. I had painted my MG magnette black and grey back in the 70s like you I only had a small garage to work in. Look great from a distance, of about a mile😂. Love your laidback approach, keep it coming ❤
@@grovevilla Thanks. I'm sure mine will good from a distance!
Hi do you know what colour and paint manufacturer is used on the 1935 AC please. Thanks
Unfortunately I don't know. It was coach painted way back in 1976.
@@ac2litre thanks Ian. I have a panther I have coach painted it before and I want to re do it just thinking of colour. It was originally silver and blue sides but I don't think you can get coach paint in silver.
How much is a gallon of that paint and would a gallon do the trick for an average car?
It's sold by the litre, here in the UK, for about £15 UKP (excl. VAT) per litre. 1 US gallon is just under 4 litres. 1 Imperial gallon = 4.54 litres. 1 US gallon of Tekaloid should be enough for 3 coats on most cars. Available from: tools-paint.com/
@@ac2litre thanks for the swift response
At last i see some one doing it right as 1940s i see too menny motor cycles restord useing modern paints they in my opeinion are over dune just my opinion 75 years young biker still building and rideing reiterd thialand
Thanks. Over restoring used to be a common problem, although views seem to have changed now.
Bubbles. Get a vacuum chamber.
Thanks for the tip. I've found the bubble problem is avoided if I paint when the weather is not too warm: Below about 20 deg.C (68F).