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@@IchimonoMan825Same. He still hit like a truck. Karenina may be meta, but i just cant bench Kamui yet. He's anti cc was so good and tanking everything that hits him.
Just a reminder if you're thinking of skipping her, in CN they're getting a 100% rate up selector on the standard banner (blue tickets), so if you save your blue tickets until then you can pick up dark karen later!
@@GrayRavenRadio Back at it again, huh? Well, I *did* say that I'd check up here every now and then, didn't I? Anyhow.. you never cease to amaze me, Gray Raven Radio. I'll be sure to tell the Commandant of this progress. -Unknown Construct _a_
Global: we skip. Kuro in cn livestream: Karenina Dark as an Idol skin btw. Global: we pull. Well played kuro, they new global players would watch cn live ,well played.
1 I comment this on every video but this is THE perfect video for me and I appreciate your content so much. Scire is such a hotly debated unit I love hearing the in depth analysis. 2 congrats on the sponsor!
Excellent video. It explained most of the nuances with pulling and investment cost as to Karenina. However, one thing you forgot to mention is that what separates Scire and Tenebrion is the QTE. While Tenebrion applies the dark shred to one enemy (sometimes 2 or 3 if they are perfectly aligned), Karen does it to all enemies within the black hole due to her gathering effect. In PPC it won't change anything, but in Warzone it is crucial, because you need to apply the dark shred evenly to all to swiftly move on to the next wave. Moreover, her QTE has a grouping effect that is present as well with No. 21, albeit the latter has a lower dark shred. That's my main reason why I'm pulling for her. I run 21 as my tank in WZ but her 5 seconds, 10% dark shred is hardly enough to fully run with Luna's core passive. And impossible if you add it to the latter's Signature Move. Tenebrion while having a 25% dark shred, costs a few seconds to set up and on-field he tends to scatter all the enemies; which messes up the small AOE effect Luna's core does. For those who are monthly pass holders, competitive and run the META dark team, I don't advise skipping Karenina.
@@snail8904 Welp, that depends on your investment in the dark team, if your Selena is not SSS, the tank and the healer are mainly QTE slaves since Luna is the main source of damage. And of course it matters, a N21 SSS+ as a QTE slave can be better than an S Kamui, if you know how to use the dark team. Now imagine a Karen S who has better stats than N21 SSS+
@@hermanwillem7057 Depending on the case, Kamui in SS lowers Dark resistance by 25% as long as his Dark form is activated. SSS+ 21 is only 10%. In my opinion and experience, Kamui is better for PPC and single & double enemy type WZ while SSS/SSS+ 21 is better for the WZ with a large number of enemies per Wave. This is because Kamui's QTE is slow (3s) and only attacks one or two enemies at a time, meanwhile 21 QTE is faster (2.1s) and does area damage, so it lowers the resistance of all enemies in the wave, and you can spam it. The technique for 21 to be effective in that type of WZ is to apply her QTE as much as you can, taking advantage of Da Vinci in Vera and Luna Passive. You use Luna, you enter Dark form with her, both QTEs activate, you apply 21's QTE , you wait a second or two, apply Vera's QTE, and again apply 21's QTE activated via DV
You explanations are so simple and understandable compared to spider 2d or even Rex ! So I know what to do now... Thanks so for that. Look forward for the next chat
My newbie *** chose Kamui when I first got the S rank selector just because he look cool and got him again right after on beginner banner. 😂 🤣... I don't know he stay in dark form indefinitely when we switch him out. My dark team run would've been so much smoother if I knew this before. 🤦🏼♂️
Unfortunately I'll have to skip her only cuz I'm a new player who has to take advantage of the 100% anni rate ups + save for the next gen characters 😩 But she looks so funnn
Ayy, Nice seeing u here. Its fine tho' I too skip her just bcoz my No21 is already SSS+💀 (Looks like a waste if i dont use her). Btw u did great tho'💖, No stress just have fun.
I messed up my bc order just because of the tenebrion skin. The reason was because i used him since i started the game (around 1 year) and he carried me through so much content i felt like i had a debt to him. Also his ending cam is so cute.
Is this secretly a promotion for her new skin? Cause if it is, I like it! Also that guage like comparison between tanks is awesome. It so much better than simply saying that simply saying that Kamui is better if Karen is below SS3 with signature weapon like so many people do.
Keep up the good qork, the simplicity and detail of your vides is great! Definetly going to pull for her. She has the same style as Tenebrion, it'll give me another Tank for Norman.
I've been on the fence about getting her for a while now, but you've convinced me to get a copy of her on release so I can get a second copy on a 100% rerun banner later.
I don't even need to think about it. When I started playing this game in February this year I watched a few videos by that one guy who styles on bosses with 1 character. I made a list of goals that I absolutely have to achieve before finishing my journey with this game. #1 Alpha Alter #2 Bianca Alter #3 Hammernina I do not go for high scores, it's enough if I can have some fun in WZ and beat nasty bosses in PPC. Story mode usually gives you characters to play which leaves events, babel and norman. Besides that I go for the looks, the feel and the general awesomeness. Karen Scire has all of that. But I will forever call her Radiant Daybreak, even though Scire's word etymology means pretty much the same. Anyway see you in game, hammering and bonking away. If you don't pull her then more Karenina's ass for me. I mean sass. I meant sass.
Even though I've been playing PGR for more than a year, only now have I learned about the role Tanks play in PGR. This brings me the question, is it possible for @GrayRavenRadio to cover PGR Team Rotations and how it works? I think it'd be really helpful in general
It’s good to have an unbiased take on things. People on Reddit are just skipping her because she’s such a high investment character, but instead of explaining, they just go “you need SS3 and her signature weapon or else she’s useless”.
Yeah... I'm skipping, 9k BC I don't want to pull for weapon either I'm fine using 21 really(but I'm also a masochist and my dark team consists of Vera, Luna and Selena lol). I'm saving up for Bianca then Alpha after that thankfully I'm only interested in Alisa and Lamia so I can focus in memories and resonances
Hey Lina remember me? me whose got Tenebrion from Normal banner in your HanYing video (yes it is still your fault~ hmph! 😤) i came from the future that i decided to pull Daren (100% rate) with her signature weapon, im pulling her preparing for my pretty Mermaid next 💙 thats why im here rewatching your vid about Daren ^^ note : i just realized i was one of people who commented about skipping Daren at 0:18 🤣
Karenina isn't really skippable because she's bad. Even at SS0 +Signature weapon, she's still a direct upgrade over Tenebrion. Her problem is the fact she has so much functionality locked behind investment and ranks. SS0+sig barely deals more damage than Tenebrion's unimpressive damage, so she's only a marginal incresse. And if you can't get the weapon she's worse than him. Only at SS3+Sig does she become a significant upgrade over tenebrion. She does however benefit WAY more from investment. She's probably the unit that benefits the most from investment in the game right now.
Please confirm. From what I understand on the SS Kamui description, he don't need to be in Dark Form to apply the 25% shred. Do he need to be on his ult? Yes or nah?
Wow, this video is so informative. Super helpful to plan my BC expenditure especially playing as a f2p. Instantly got a sub and like from me. Looking forward to more contents like this in the future.
@@sandwichpony8071 from what I'm seeing though, if you're only doing Bianca at SS3 you're still gonna lose out on Warzone and PPC, because many others have saved enough to SSS her. Just like how Nier team players drown out any other Physical team now. Although if you don't care about those modes, it won't matter. Lmao
@@OurLordandSaviorSigmar the question is if Bianca is viable at S and SS at the very least? Cause I’m probably still gonna get her but I can’t figure out why so many people want to get dupes of her when she comes out
@@sandwichpony8071 i saw on reddit that she is viable already at those ranks. She won't really powercreep Alpha at the same rank by a huge margin, but a tad better overall. Now as for why people aim to pull a lot of copies, I chalk it up to simping (can't say I don't relate lol).
dont forget sss is 4 bianca=60k BC+7.5k for weapon+5k for the pet and if you want a real meta team, you need luminance+rosetta with both having sig weapon and resonance to unlock full potential of physical team, which is impossible for f2p or you just never pull in the last 4 patch
It pains me to skip but I already have Tenebrion SS(S rank selector + copy from the basic banner with the first 40 pulls) and more importantly I don't have an actual physical team so saving right now for Bianca and getting Rosetta with the next selector is my plan
The pet is really good too, it can double ult damage, and provides strong gather in warzone, Karenina misses out on a big chunk of damage if no pet, plus enemy spread in warzone can really hurt her core passive not being able to hit all enemies
@@ohreally69 what is this argument 💀The pet literally doubles karen base ult damage, and how is Luna going to gather enemies when she is not even on the field, only her ult can do that and you dont use ult unless your Luna is SSS+ after daren. Go research before trying to make a point
I already have 21. Thanks. I like this Karen a lot, but as a F2P I have no way to spend soo much in a character. I wanted to at least pull for her just for the sake of having her, but I NEED to save for future characters. Abystigma is calling me and I need to answer D:
Hi GR radio, so I was contemplating who to pull in wish target, and it's only scire that I'm missing. Watching this vid made me convinced long ago that teneb is fine but I can't get myself to use resources on him. I rewatched this to see if I really don't need scire, but I saw something in PGR site that you haven't mentioned here. SS Scire got additional 15% dark shred for 3s. Does that make her max shred reach 40%? Thanks. PS: Checked just now that SSS also gives 5% dmg reduction for 8s.
This isnt the video i liked but the video i needed. I have been saving all my bc since i saw the besto Karenina, been my favourite since i got my first ever Ember, only got 31k bc by now, but i will keep farming at fullest may get her at least ss3.
Amazing vid! Love the way you explain stuff~ Although the value of Karen vs Luna became clear, can you comment on how Selena fits into all of this? Does Karen have downtime? If so, is it better filled by S Luna or SSS Selena? Should you even bother with SSS Selena if going for SS3 Karen?
Now that they revealed her idol skin in 3.5 anniversary stream, I’m deciding whether I wanna get Bianca’s gacha coating or Karen’s (can’t get both since f2p issues sad😢)
i have a question. I got Kata: scire and Nanami Star (the one who you forgot in the video 100% fire). so should i replace her with watanabe A rank dark ? Im using A rank Vera, no21 and Watanabe ( but i dont really like watanabe tho)
I'm still a bit disoriented when it comes to build. If I have SS3 Karenina and SSS Selena then should I run Einsteina on Selena instead of Cottie? Or run Einsteina on Karenina and Cottie on Selena? Or 3rd option: no Einsteaina, instead Condelina&Cottie? (both characters have sig weapon with double resonance).
Off the topic, but it's KarEnina. Please, put the stress on E. It's a russian name from a book literally named Anna Karenina, written by Lev Tolstoy. And thank you for the video, now I will think about getting her, even though I don't like tsunderes that much :D
using both of them on the same team is nothing but copium only possible if your daren is highly invested she can solo dps on ppc but that's like sss3 investment
I’m not trying to skip her. I actually want her Scire frame. I don’t even have her ember frame unlocked. I want to unlock her and use her a lot. Even though it’s only a character it’s best to give her some attention and make her stronger. There’s a wish list option available but I want to get Lucia Crimson Weaver that’s coming in the global version. It’s risky sacrificing my BC and construct tickets because I have enough for 40 pulls.
I see the council has made a decision. Unfortunately, I am going to pretend I didn't hear it because I like Karenina too much to not pull. TIME TO EXPLODE SOME STUFF YAYYY
Probably i will get her to SS3 for now and just later upgrade her more.On CN at Abystigma banner or 2,5 anniversary they got free S rank and S rank weapon selector up to Luna so this will be my moment to get my Rosetta to SSS and get Bianca as high as i can.
I don't have any dark team invested. Is she worth to get? I only have 5 pulls left to gurantee her but I may think on getting Balter with that. If she can make my dark team playable, i may consider her I dont have kamui, only A no.21.
Why tho? Unless you literally just started playing or wasted all your BC recently you are able to get both of them without issues, especially since the anniversary comes with extra free pulls.
@@JJKMagicbecause unfortunately, i've fallen for the trap called Nier event & messed up my bc income big time; I also planning long game to SS3 main atkr in future (balter, hypelee & cw) w/ their sig obviously. Let me know if theres banner worth to skip, cz i'll need that
Newbie here for asking, should i pull for selena capriccio or pull for future character? i'm honestly at 51 pity rn,and still confused about what is a "good" character or team that can make me get no struggle to progress further story. After i listened to "Narwhal ost" man i really cannot pull myself from my own excitement to get into the upcoming story. I'm still in 6-3 if i remember corectly, i already build karenina ember,liv lux,ayla and no.21 to lvl 50. And yeah idk who to pull or build in order to not make any mistake and get myself stuck in future chapter. (i want to pull selena cuz i already have no.21 and vera rozen,but idk if that is a good reason to pull her)
It's hard to say for certain without knowing your roster or if you are F2P or not, but with this info we'd recommend pulling Liv: Empyrea instead. She's very strong at this stage of the game and can work on lots of different teams. You can grind for Selena: Capriccio for FREE through Recitativo di Fantasia, which you will unlock later in the story. Vera Rozen can fill in Capriccio's role in the meantime. For your Dark Attacker, I'd recommend getting Watanabe Astral if you want a strong A-Rank (only 10 pulls on the Base banner) or Luna: Laurel if you want the strongest available Dark Attacker.
@@GrayRavenRadio WOW, didnt expect you to reply on my comment, thanks, I'm subbing then. Alright i'm gonna pull for empyrea, thanks for the suggestion, she looks great. Yeah I'm f2p for now, if i already have much time in this game, i will definitely invest in this game. But for now, i'm still considering.
of course i will pull for her since i dont have kamui. Then my dark team is complete.i will also pull LIv empyrea in anniversary banner. since i need her in my fire team. of course 6* weapon of karenina can wait, after bianca's patch. i can pull out of here sig weapon. update: Karenina is very powerful at least in SS3. you either use her core passive ( charge @ 3 pings or 6pings). charging her core passive (@6 pings) give you high rate damage around 100k+ or more.😅
As a F2P here's why I'm skipping her 1-she's expensive and even if she's an upgrade you won't see damage until ss3+sig 2- I'm aiming for abystigma and hyperreal and thier sigs so I already need at least 180 pull💀 3-in May 2024 there will be a 100% banner for every character and after by 2 months we will be getting lamia (the new dark dps) so I can get her from there And for those who will ask why I'm not going to get CW I don't have any team members for the lighting team and I don't want to start getting it sooooo yeah I'm sorry CW lovers she's an amazing character tho I can't deny it
@@niyon3885 oh I actually have them but I prefer playing a swapping team more than a solo with QTE slaves don't get me wrong love CW but it is what it is
New player here: I have liv luminence from selector and tenebrion from 40 pity and i want to build abysstigma and luna's team should i pull her or not? Im at chapter 5 of the story so i guess i still have a lot of BC to farm and for what i saw she is future proof at least 1 year from now on Ty and ill be waiting suggestions
Since you've got Luminance and Tenebrion already, you may be better off waiting a few days until the Anniversary banner is out! You should be able to choose to pull any S-Rank character from that, and someone like Empyrea or Garnet might benefit you more. You'll be able to grab Rosetta for free in Bianca's patch.
the good thing with dark team is there are passable tank alternatives (SS teneb, SSS 21) but fire team, phys team, ice team? literally no one lmao id have to get nanamech and glory before her...maybe ill consider her in 2024 august after lamia xD
Damn I guess I'm pulling both Glory and Scire (I started playing in Nanamech patch). If ever, will the Scire banner pity carry over to Bianca banner pity?
I have an SS Kamui and 15k BC. I thought to pull her, but I might miss abystygma if I do. It is worth the risk? A karenina S withouth his signature weapon does perform worst than a kamui SS in dark form, so i'm very doubtful...
If you own a Monthly Pass you can pull both, and SS3 one, you just have to hold out on the sig weap for the time being. With the free bc the devs give us, you won't have to hold out for too long though.
@@manoA98A what? you roughly get at minimum 12k BC every two patches, and that's strictly minimum. with the events and free BCs the devs give, you can guarantee characters every two patches.
F2P here 🙋♂️ I have 3 reasons why I need to skip her 1. She's kinda expensive if u want her to be that good (yes 6* weapon is already expensive as a F2P) 2. I need Bianca Abystigma/Hyperreal/CW and their Weapon 3. I need Dark Liv and Bianca coating (I'm sick of following too much meta I need some eye candy 💀) I'll probably get her later if I can tho, but for now l will cope with Kamui SS 😂
I'm not even f2p but I have the exact same reasons as you. I'll actually still pull her but I'll keep her at S with no sig, I just like owning new characters since they're basically a new gameplay experience.
I must say that your explanation is perfect but you must understand that the majority and the majority of the player base does not have enough money to take out their weapon and their ss3 at most they can take out their weapon, that is why the comparison with tenebrion karen SS+ her weapon is slightly better, so it does not justify its investment, especially if there is the anniversary chest that guarantees 100% to any character S
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Kamui may hit like a wet paper bag, BUT HE’S MY WET PAPER BAG
Kamui is a gift to this world
@@GrayRavenRadiotruth, I got my S Kamui fully hyper tuned and his signature weapon, had no regrets since
@@IchimonoMan825Same. He still hit like a truck. Karenina may be meta, but i just cant bench Kamui yet. He's anti cc was so good and tanking everything that hits him.
@@tartagliawithmoustache9408my man
He is. Unironically, the golden retriever of Pgr
Just a reminder if you're thinking of skipping her, in CN they're getting a 100% rate up selector on the standard banner (blue tickets), so if you save your blue tickets until then you can pick up dark karen later!
Wich patch exactly?
when in global?
What patch specifically?
@@tigerray1790 in 3.5 anniv maybe like in cn on lamia patch probably on july 2024 (global)
Blue ticket= A star wdym
Karenina Scire is insanely powerful because she has fully embraced the Power of *BONK* 🔨💥
She's definitely a hammer main.
@@GrayRavenRadio
Back at it again, huh?
Well, I *did* say that I'd check up here every now and then, didn't I?
Anyhow.. you never cease to amaze me, Gray Raven Radio.
I'll be sure to tell the Commandant of this progress.
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@@SmithOfGear92
Why thank you, Commandant.
Liv told me she made pies.
Let's hope that Lucia didn't help to cook..
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Global: we skip.
Kuro in cn livestream: Karenina Dark as an Idol skin btw.
Global: we pull.
Well played kuro, they new global players would watch cn live ,well played.
thats me lol
1 I comment this on every video but this is THE perfect video for me and I appreciate your content so much. Scire is such a hotly debated unit I love hearing the in depth analysis.
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Excellent video. It explained most of the nuances with pulling and investment cost as to Karenina.
However, one thing you forgot to mention is that what separates Scire and Tenebrion is the QTE. While Tenebrion applies the dark shred to one enemy (sometimes 2 or 3 if they are perfectly aligned), Karen does it to all enemies within the black hole due to her gathering effect. In PPC it won't change anything, but in Warzone it is crucial, because you need to apply the dark shred evenly to all to swiftly move on to the next wave. Moreover, her QTE has a grouping effect that is present as well with No. 21, albeit the latter has a lower dark shred.
That's my main reason why I'm pulling for her. I run 21 as my tank in WZ but her 5 seconds, 10% dark shred is hardly enough to fully run with Luna's core passive. And impossible if you add it to the latter's Signature Move. Tenebrion while having a 25% dark shred, costs a few seconds to set up and on-field he tends to scatter all the enemies; which messes up the small AOE effect Luna's core does. For those who are monthly pass holders, competitive and run the META dark team, I don't advise skipping Karenina.
Also mention that as QTE slave she is faster than Kamui and N21, which means that you can lower resistance more times
@@superqueso imagine pulling for a character because she's a better qte slave at low investment copium lmaooo😂
@@snail8904 Welp, that depends on your investment in the dark team, if your Selena is not SSS, the tank and the healer are mainly QTE slaves since Luna is the main source of damage.
And of course it matters, a N21 SSS+ as a QTE slave can be better than an S Kamui, if you know how to use the dark team. Now imagine a Karen S who has better stats than N21 SSS+
@@superqueso ss kamui with sig better than sss+ 21 no sig?
@@hermanwillem7057 Depending on the case, Kamui in SS lowers Dark resistance by 25% as long as his Dark form is activated. SSS+ 21 is only 10%.
In my opinion and experience, Kamui is better for PPC and single & double enemy type WZ while SSS/SSS+ 21 is better for the WZ with a large number of enemies per Wave.
This is because Kamui's QTE is slow (3s) and only attacks one or two enemies at a time, meanwhile 21 QTE is faster (2.1s) and does area damage, so it lowers the resistance of all enemies in the wave, and you can spam it.
The technique for 21 to be effective in that type of WZ is to apply her QTE as much as you can, taking advantage of Da Vinci in Vera and Luna Passive.
You use Luna, you enter Dark form with her, both QTEs activate, you apply 21's QTE , you wait a second or two, apply Vera's QTE, and again apply 21's QTE activated via DV
You explanations are so simple and understandable compared to spider 2d or even Rex ! So I know what to do now... Thanks so for that. Look forward for the next chat
Let's goo Karenina Idol coating!!
My newbie *** chose Kamui when I first got the S rank selector just because he look cool and got him again right after on beginner banner. 😂 🤣... I don't know he stay in dark form indefinitely when we switch him out. My dark team run would've been so much smoother if I knew this before. 🤦🏼♂️
Unfortunately I'll have to skip her only cuz I'm a new player who has to take advantage of the 100% anni rate ups + save for the next gen characters 😩 But she looks so funnn
Ayy, Nice seeing u here. Its fine tho' I too skip her just bcoz my No21 is already SSS+💀 (Looks like a waste if i dont use her).
Btw u did great tho'💖, No stress just have fun.
I think I will get her only S as f2p... but atleast she can be my dps for the time being since i don't have Luna (i started play at Luna patch💀💀)
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@@karinakimmy thats nice of you!!
Sadly I was going to do that but we will have chrome instead of Liv empyrea so sadly I have to wait till September or smth now great....
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was planning to skip her at first but looking at her new idol skin in cn i have a second thought
This is me right now
Just saying, this might break a lot of people. That idol skin is gacha. So yeah. Very not recommended unless you simp karen
Stay strong brother!!
I messed up my bc order just because of the tenebrion skin. The reason was because i used him since i started the game (around 1 year) and he carried me through so much content i felt like i had a debt to him. Also his ending cam is so cute.
You forgot to include the fact that she's an idol, another reason to pull her, ha ha.
Is this secretly a promotion for her new skin? Cause if it is, I like it!
Also that guage like comparison between tanks is awesome. It so much better than simply saying that simply saying that Kamui is better if Karen is below SS3 with signature weapon like so many people do.
she appears when we need her the most. talk about perfect timing. very helpful 👍🏻
Keep up the good qork, the simplicity and detail of your vides is great! Definetly going to pull for her. She has the same style as Tenebrion, it'll give me another Tank for Norman.
I've been on the fence about getting her for a while now, but you've convinced me to get a copy of her on release so I can get a second copy on a 100% rerun banner later.
I don't even need to think about it. When I started playing this game in February this year I watched a few videos by that one guy who styles on bosses with 1 character. I made a list of goals that I absolutely have to achieve before finishing my journey with this game.
#1 Alpha Alter
#2 Bianca Alter
#3 Hammernina
I do not go for high scores, it's enough if I can have some fun in WZ and beat nasty bosses in PPC. Story mode usually gives you characters to play which leaves events, babel and norman. Besides that I go for the looks, the feel and the general awesomeness.
Karen Scire has all of that. But I will forever call her Radiant Daybreak, even though Scire's word etymology means pretty much the same.
Anyway see you in game, hammering and bonking away. If you don't pull her then more Karenina's ass for me. I mean sass. I meant sass.
Even though I've been playing PGR for more than a year, only now have I learned about the role Tanks play in PGR. This brings me the question, is it possible for @GrayRavenRadio to cover PGR Team Rotations and how it works? I think it'd be really helpful in general
It’s good to have an unbiased take on things. People on Reddit are just skipping her because she’s such a high investment character, but instead of explaining, they just go “you need SS3 and her signature weapon or else she’s useless”.
Yeah... I'm skipping, 9k BC I don't want to pull for weapon either I'm fine using 21 really(but I'm also a masochist and my dark team consists of Vera, Luna and Selena lol). I'm saving up for Bianca then Alpha after that thankfully I'm only interested in Alisa and Lamia so I can focus in memories and resonances
10:43 if you hate a golden retriever you say that
Also must add on the karenina if you want to pull or not. She had an idol skin, sadly its gacha.
That Karenina skin at 6:12 is mad cute.
Excelent video as always
Hey Lina remember me?
me whose got Tenebrion from Normal banner in your HanYing video (yes it is still your fault~ hmph! 😤)
i came from the future that i decided to pull Daren (100% rate) with her signature weapon, im pulling her preparing for my pretty Mermaid next 💙
thats why im here rewatching your vid about Daren ^^
note : i just realized i was one of people who commented about skipping Daren at 0:18 🤣
aaahhhh, i wasnt gonna pull till bianka, but you guys keep conviceing me to pull.
Hope you pump out more videos soon. Really like the content 😊
Karenina isn't really skippable because she's bad. Even at SS0 +Signature weapon, she's still a direct upgrade over Tenebrion. Her problem is the fact she has so much functionality locked behind investment and ranks. SS0+sig barely deals more damage than Tenebrion's unimpressive damage, so she's only a marginal incresse. And if you can't get the weapon she's worse than him. Only at SS3+Sig does she become a significant upgrade over tenebrion. She does however benefit WAY more from investment. She's probably the unit that benefits the most from investment in the game right now.
I really needed this because I wasn't sure of who to build because I have both of them.
Will be going for Karen's Sig and building her.
Thanks a lot.
So sad that i have to skip her this time and wait for future 100% rate up banner for her because i need to get Liv Empy in Anni banner this time.
same case for me but with vera, I already lost 2 chances on the last two 75% banners, I ain't missing this chance to be a dog 🐶
A wise choice
Make sure you can pity the anniv banner though.
@@nameless4635 Already
Same. Liv Empyrea is my priority.
Your thumbnail gave me answer. Thank you!
This is a purely the best pgr content for global
Please confirm. From what I understand on the SS Kamui description, he don't need to be in Dark Form to apply the 25% shred.
Do he need to be on his ult? Yes or nah?
Awesome informative vid as always!
Good video finaly, nice and clean info. thank you.
After watching CN 3.5 she is A MUST PULL!!
Can't complete my Constructs collection without the best tsun in it!
Wow, this video is so informative. Super helpful to plan my BC expenditure especially playing as a f2p. Instantly got a sub and like from me. Looking forward to more contents like this in the future.
Welcome and thanks for the sub!
Another banger video as always, great job 👍
Fire sound fx 0:20 👌
Just according to keikaku
If you get it now, you can get enough black cards for Bianca because she is after Two updates
The thing is many people are recommending using the saved BCs meant for Karen in order to potentially SS3 Bianca Alter though
@@sandwichpony8071 from what I'm seeing though, if you're only doing Bianca at SS3 you're still gonna lose out on Warzone and PPC, because many others have saved enough to SSS her. Just like how Nier team players drown out any other Physical team now. Although if you don't care about those modes, it won't matter. Lmao
@@OurLordandSaviorSigmar the question is if Bianca is viable at S and SS at the very least? Cause I’m probably still gonna get her but I can’t figure out why so many people want to get dupes of her when she comes out
@@sandwichpony8071 i saw on reddit that she is viable already at those ranks. She won't really powercreep Alpha at the same rank by a huge margin, but a tad better overall. Now as for why people aim to pull a lot of copies, I chalk it up to simping (can't say I don't relate lol).
dont forget sss is 4 bianca=60k BC+7.5k for weapon+5k for the pet and if you want a real meta team, you need luminance+rosetta with both having sig weapon and resonance to unlock full potential of physical team, which is impossible for f2p or you just never pull in the last 4 patch
Best pgr content creator atleast for me ❤️❤️
It pains me to skip
but I already have Tenebrion SS(S rank selector + copy from the basic banner with the first 40 pulls)
and more importantly I don't have an actual physical team so saving right now for Bianca and getting Rosetta with the next selector is my plan
I’ve watched this video like 6 times and I still love it like it’s my first time watching
I waited so long for her. She is a must summon for me
The pet is really good too, it can double ult damage, and provides strong gather in warzone, Karenina misses out on a big chunk of damage if no pet, plus enemy spread in warzone can really hurt her core passive not being able to hit all enemies
The pet is only needed if you're using Karen as your main dps.....if she is sub dps,you don't really need it because Luna can gather enemies too
@@ohreally69 what is this argument 💀The pet literally doubles karen base ult damage, and how is Luna going to gather enemies when she is not even on the field, only her ult can do that and you dont use ult unless your Luna is SSS+ after daren. Go research before trying to make a point
im skipping her for bianca and lee. those omn move looks sick as hell. i guess i will pull her on rate up banner
I already have 21. Thanks.
I like this Karen a lot, but as a F2P I have no way to spend soo much in a character. I wanted to at least pull for her just for the sake of having her, but I NEED to save for future characters. Abystigma is calling me and I need to answer D:
You can easily pull bianca if u want to even after pulling Karenina there are 2 months until Bianca so you do have luxary
Hi GR radio, so I was contemplating who to pull in wish target, and it's only scire that I'm missing. Watching this vid made me convinced long ago that teneb is fine but I can't get myself to use resources on him. I rewatched this to see if I really don't need scire, but I saw something in PGR site that you haven't mentioned here. SS Scire got additional 15% dark shred for 3s. Does that make her max shred reach 40%? Thanks.
PS: Checked just now that SSS also gives 5% dmg reduction for 8s.
For IDOL KAREN, anything!
banner ended, perfect time to check what I have missed....
same😢
2:27 😂😂😂
🔥🥺🔥
@@GrayRavenRadiowe literally just had an event of Nanami saying to not forget her and you just did this.
Apologize to Nanami.
SORRY NANAMI 😭🙇♀️🙇♀️🙏
8:10I have never seen a better time to pull Tenebrion.
KAMUI GANG, RISE UP‼️‼️‼️
I wanna pull on her banner so bad but I can't afford that kind of investment :( maybe someday. Thanks for the very brief but detailed video!
This isnt the video i liked but the video i needed.
I have been saving all my bc since i saw the besto Karenina, been my favourite since i got my first ever Ember, only got 31k bc by now, but i will keep farming at fullest may get her at least ss3.
Just discovered this channel today and it is amazing. Please keep up the good work!
amazing video!
I want more!
Amazing vid! Love the way you explain stuff~
Although the value of Karen vs Luna became clear, can you comment on how Selena fits into all of this? Does Karen have downtime? If so, is it better filled by S Luna or SSS Selena? Should you even bother with SSS Selena if going for SS3 Karen?
Damn Kuro, i went all in with Starfarer now Karenina and i have to save for Hyperreal, Crimson weave... and also collab is coming...
Now that they revealed her idol skin in 3.5 anniversary stream, I’m deciding whether I wanna get Bianca’s gacha coating or Karen’s (can’t get both since f2p issues sad😢)
i have a question. I got Kata: scire and Nanami Star (the one who you forgot in the video 100% fire). so should i replace her with watanabe A rank dark ? Im using A rank Vera, no21 and Watanabe ( but i dont really like watanabe tho)
Now I'm thinking if I should I pull for her because I don't have Tenebrion but I do have 21 or pull laurel to change my astral 😭
I know this is kinda late, but is there like an optimal purchase pack in the shop for light spenders to get to SS3?
1 more things u need to pull her because BEST COATING in- game is Idol Karenina 😅😅
This is great video content.
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I'm still a bit disoriented when it comes to build. If I have SS3 Karenina and SSS Selena then should I run Einsteina on Selena instead of Cottie? Or run Einsteina on Karenina and Cottie on Selena? Or 3rd option: no Einsteaina, instead Condelina&Cottie? (both characters have sig weapon with double resonance).
Nice video, but does physical bianca need ranks? If so i would save for her.
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I may need to pull. I've been using 21 for a long while so I may need an upgrade.
Off the topic, but it's KarEnina. Please, put the stress on E. It's a russian name from a book literally named Anna Karenina, written by Lev Tolstoy. And thank you for the video, now I will think about getting her, even though I don't like tsunderes that much :D
Is it okay though if youre going to use her alongside Kamui, my Kamui is already SS with BiS with full reso, i don't plan on replacing him tbh.
using both of them on the same team is nothing but copium only possible if your daren is highly invested she can solo dps on ppc but that's like sss3 investment
Chain Fusion does not stack so its kinda pointless to have them in the same team. Same goes for 21.
@@Pequod_LZ aw that's sad
@@yurika-rie I see I see, thanks for the info, I'd just skip Karen for now.
Well saving blue tickets for the future 3.5 anniv s selector rank banner
IDOL outfit 😍
With a heavy heart I must say that skin is gacha
But the IDOL KARENNINA COATING tho 😍
I’m not trying to skip her. I actually want her Scire frame. I don’t even have her ember frame unlocked. I want to unlock her and use her a lot. Even though it’s only a character it’s best to give her some attention and make her stronger. There’s a wish list option available but I want to get Lucia Crimson Weaver that’s coming in the global version. It’s risky sacrificing my BC and construct tickets because I have enough for 40 pulls.
If I have absolute no character of the Dark team right now, but some BC to burn, what should I pull for?
She’s great and all but I lack non tank characters so I plan to get abystigma
I see the council has made a decision. Unfortunately, I am going to pretend I didn't hear it because I like Karenina too much to not pull.
TIME TO EXPLODE SOME STUFF YAYYY
One copy is enough for me btw does bianca needs ss3 too?
Probably i will get her to SS3 for now and just later upgrade her more.On CN at Abystigma banner or 2,5 anniversary they got free S rank and S rank weapon selector up to Luna so this will be my moment to get my Rosetta to SSS and get Bianca as high as i can.
Just got her for free guarantee S in standard and so confuse what to do with her, ty for the video.
I don't have any dark team invested. Is she worth to get? I only have 5 pulls left to gurantee her but I may think on getting Balter with that. If she can make my dark team playable, i may consider her
I dont have kamui, only A no.21.
Me coping with No 21 because I need anni banner 💀
It's not like I don't like Karenina, but if I do pull for her, that means i'm skipping Bianca.
And ain't no way i'm gonna pass her.
Why tho? Unless you literally just started playing or wasted all your BC recently you are able to get both of them without issues, especially since the anniversary comes with extra free pulls.
@@JJKMagicbecause unfortunately, i've fallen for the trap called Nier event & messed up my bc income big time; I also planning long game to SS3 main atkr in future (balter, hypelee & cw) w/ their sig obviously.
Let me know if theres banner worth to skip, cz i'll need that
Newbie here for asking, should i pull for selena capriccio or pull for future character?
i'm honestly at 51 pity rn,and still confused about what is a "good" character or team that can make me get no struggle to progress further story. After i listened to "Narwhal ost" man i really cannot pull myself from my own excitement to get into the upcoming story. I'm still in 6-3 if i remember corectly, i already build karenina ember,liv lux,ayla and no.21 to lvl 50.
And yeah idk who to pull or build in order to not make any mistake and get myself stuck in future chapter.
(i want to pull selena cuz i already have no.21 and vera rozen,but idk if that is a good reason to pull her)
It's hard to say for certain without knowing your roster or if you are F2P or not, but with this info we'd recommend pulling Liv: Empyrea instead. She's very strong at this stage of the game and can work on lots of different teams.
You can grind for Selena: Capriccio for FREE through Recitativo di Fantasia, which you will unlock later in the story. Vera Rozen can fill in Capriccio's role in the meantime.
For your Dark Attacker, I'd recommend getting Watanabe Astral if you want a strong A-Rank (only 10 pulls on the Base banner) or Luna: Laurel if you want the strongest available Dark Attacker.
@@GrayRavenRadio WOW, didnt expect you to reply on my comment, thanks, I'm subbing then.
Alright i'm gonna pull for empyrea, thanks for the suggestion, she looks great.
Yeah I'm f2p for now, if i already have much time in this game, i will definitely invest in this game. But for now, i'm still considering.
@@GrayRavenRadioshould i pull empyrea or luna?
We recommend Empyrea.
@@GrayRavenRadio Thank you so much, already pulled her. She is great!!!
of course i will pull for her since i dont have kamui. Then my dark team is complete.i will also pull LIv empyrea in anniversary banner. since i need her in my fire team. of course 6* weapon of karenina can wait, after bianca's patch. i can pull out of here sig weapon.
update: Karenina is very powerful at least in SS3. you either use her core passive ( charge @ 3 pings or 6pings). charging her core passive (@6 pings) give you high rate damage around 100k+ or more.😅
As a F2P here's why I'm skipping her
1-she's expensive and even if she's an upgrade you won't see damage until ss3+sig
2- I'm aiming for abystigma and hyperreal and thier sigs so I already need at least 180 pull💀
3-in May 2024 there will be a 100% banner for every character and after by 2 months we will be getting lamia (the new dark dps) so I can get her from there
And for those who will ask why I'm not going to get CW I don't have any team members for the lighting team and I don't want to start getting it sooooo yeah I'm sorry CW lovers she's an amazing character tho I can't deny it
No way you don't have Liv Lux and Chrome Archlight. These two even enough do some QTE for CW
@@niyon3885 oh I actually have them but I prefer playing a swapping team more than a solo with QTE slaves don't get me wrong love CW but it is what it is
New player here:
I have liv luminence from selector and tenebrion from 40 pity and i want to build abysstigma and luna's team should i pull her or not? Im at chapter 5 of the story so i guess i still have a lot of BC to farm and for what i saw she is future proof at least 1 year from now on
Ty and ill be waiting suggestions
Since you've got Luminance and Tenebrion already, you may be better off waiting a few days until the Anniversary banner is out! You should be able to choose to pull any S-Rank character from that, and someone like Empyrea or Garnet might benefit you more. You'll be able to grab Rosetta for free in Bianca's patch.
How good would a sigless SS3 Scire be? I've seen nobody discuss the rank without the sig.
the good thing with dark team is there are passable tank alternatives (SS teneb, SSS 21) but fire team, phys team, ice team? literally no one lmao id have to get nanamech and glory before her...maybe ill consider her in 2024 august after lamia xD
Is there already info on when she will be back? :(
Damn I guess I'm pulling both Glory and Scire (I started playing in Nanamech patch). If ever, will the Scire banner pity carry over to Bianca banner pity?
Yes, yes, yes. The pity in all debut banners will carry over to the next debut construct.
Yep, and recentlynon cn, you can choose an s rank to obtain from standard, sp you can get her second copy when that happens
Skipping her for Empyrea and Bianca. Heck, I almost considered skipping Bianca for Lee but I think I can get both, but on single S rank.
She looks like a lot of fun, wallet is prepared! I'm not against paying for more dorm chibis... I mean, meta tanks.
I have an SS Kamui and 15k BC. I thought to pull her, but I might miss abystygma if I do. It is worth the risk? A karenina S withouth his signature weapon does perform worst than a kamui SS in dark form, so i'm very doubtful...
If you care about being strong, you definitely want to guarantee Bianca -- she's just way more impactful.
@@GrayRavenRadio Yes, that 's what I thought. If I pull for Karenina, even by skipping Noah, there are not enough bc for bianca
If you own a Monthly Pass you can pull both, and SS3 one, you just have to hold out on the sig weap for the time being. With the free bc the devs give us, you won't have to hold out for too long though.
@@OurLordandSaviorSigmar Nope I'm f2p
@@manoA98A what? you roughly get at minimum 12k BC every two patches, and that's strictly minimum. with the events and free BCs the devs give, you can guarantee characters every two patches.
F2P here 🙋♂️
I have 3 reasons why I need to skip her
1. She's kinda expensive if u want her to be that good (yes 6* weapon is already expensive as a F2P)
2. I need Bianca Abystigma/Hyperreal/CW and their Weapon
3. I need Dark Liv and Bianca coating (I'm sick of following too much meta I need some eye candy 💀)
I'll probably get her later if I can tho, but for now l will cope with Kamui SS 😂
But I'll do 20 pull and try my luck
If I don't get her welp, it is what it is 🤷♂️
as a fellow f2p, big skip. Expensive to build...
I'm not even f2p but I have the exact same reasons as you. I'll actually still pull her but I'll keep her at S with no sig, I just like owning new characters since they're basically a new gameplay experience.
@hansonphilip1224 does the pulls pity pull count carry over to the next banner if u don't pull her?
@@sonyphony ya the pity is the same for the same type of banners
I must say that your explanation is perfect but you must understand that the majority and the majority of the player base does not have enough money to take out their weapon and their ss3 at most they can take out their weapon, that is why the comparison with tenebrion
karen SS+ her weapon is slightly better, so it does not justify its investment, especially if there is the anniversary chest that guarantees 100% to any character S
Still unsure have ss 21 as my dark tank, no attacker and vera sss. With my 17k bc might as well skip