It's funny. The manufacturer took the trouble to send the LPL an "improved" lock, but didn't bother to test it ahead of time to see if it's improved. How hard would it have been to go to a competent locksmith and say "Please try and pick this lock open." These people just don't seem to believe in testing their products.
Have you considered their goal isn't to make an unpickable lock, its to make a lock the will make people feel secure. the fact is the majority of break ins do not involve picking the lock, they involve destructive methods. why take a minute to pick the lock when you can just break the window. I know for a fact that I would feel safer with an unlocked door and a large dog than I would with the most unpickable lock in the world.
Locksmith is not the same as picker. Some locksmiths do learn to pick, but their job is to service the locks, not open them. Coming to your house with an angle grinder and a drill because you forgot your keys is a side job they do because everyone asks locksmiths as the only thing in the phonebook with "lock" in the name. And a few more customer focused ones learn a small amount of picking skills to be less destructive. What's needed for this is dedicated pickers, and it's cheaper to send cheap locks to reviewers than to hire someone with the right skillset. Even hiring someone at minimum wage to watch LPL videos and try out the things on the videos on their locks would cost around 30k+/yr with all the required expenses outside of direct pay for an employee. They could send out 300 locks for less than that, and every good review is doing double work as advertisement.
One of these days, I wanna see LPL open an electronic lock and show his testing setup including a multimeter, and say, "I wanted to show you my multimeter, so you can see it's not a Fluke."
It appears the wave rake can open the lock faster than putting in the code. The other advantage of the wave rake is that you don’t have to worry about forgetting the code.
"The other advantage of the wave rake is that you don’t have to worry about forgetting the code" - You also don't have to worry about revealing the code to people behind you.
Thank you LPL, I've been a so called locksmith for a large county facility for years. My first lock picking device was always a drill, but not anymore. I appreciate your channel very much. Coming along with practice.
I've heard it said that "locks are just there to keep honest people honest". Your videos prove than in most cases, if someone really wants to get into a lock destructively or non-destructively they will.
In my experience, door locks with a mechanical keypad aren't guarding anything secure anyway... they're on something like an office storeroom or bathroom, and the pin number is almost certainly something which can be described as "the top four buttons", or something that similarly doesn't require remembering the actual number.
It takes less time to open with the wave rake than to use the keypad. Maybe the lock manufacturer should include a wave rake along with -- or instead of -- the keys.
I see the main problem with mechanical dead bolts is the fact, that the order in which the numbers are depressed isn't important. Hence a set of fingerprints on the lock gives away the combination easily. This is even worse with a shiny surface like this dead bolt has. There are two ways to tackle this issue. You could clean the surface every time after using it, or you could make sure there are fingerprints all over it by randomly tapping through all the digits regularly.
Most of these fly by night companies couldn't care less how well the locks work. People buy them regardless. Spending more on design work just eats into profits and could add to manufacturing costs.
I worked for Sargent Lock for 12 years in the electronic locks division. The mechanical lock division suffered heavily from NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome.
@@--_DJ_-- NIH means that unless it's designed in-house, they're not interested in input from external sources. The marketing team is who drives the product specifications. Engineering attempts to build what they specified, with compromises made in quality vs cost.
Well, if the manufacturer realizes that they need to step their game up and sent you the lock... I guess they're trying, but they don't know how. I like how you gave them that credit. But they can ASK you or watch any of your videos and you freely tell them how to add security pins and how other manufactures make their locks more secure. Of course I wouldn't purchase their locks, but if they fix these horrible issues and make it better, then send it in to you for a review... I cannot imagine no higher praise than an endorsement from the LPL ! I hope the Manufacture also reads these comments and steps up to the challenge.
Because the manufacturer sent LPL this lock it reminded me of another youtube channel, 'Just Rolled In', where the motor mechanic ends lots of stories with the words, 'The customer refused all repairs.' 🙂
So... With 2 months watching LPL and Bosnian Bill's videos and a couple hundreds in Covert Instrument tools I can basically become a GOD like quality tester in any of these lock manufacturers. Prove me wrong.
It seems that a lot of people misunderstand how this works. The company wasn't so proud of this improved lock that they send it to LPL. This company works with a marketing company and said company sand it to anyone who has given number of subscribers and content featuring locks, security, or anything like that.
LOVE IT. That you show these combo, locks that have KEYS, and use the Key way to open them. Just to show,,, WHY are you putting a KEY WAY, on a combination LOCK.
It seems to me after watching all your videos that the key lock is always the weak spot. I put super glue on my key insert it in my lock 3 or 4 times and let it dry. I never use a key anyway. I think that would make any combination/key lock more secure. If I need to use a key I break into my garage, get my carb cleaner and spray it into the key slot, and wiggle the key in until it unlocks. 😂
Every single time he gets the wave rake I am laughing and screaming "Nooo" at the same time, because I think it's such an unnecessary security flaw that obviously EVERYONE could've tested for during development.
Companies know that if you send reviewers a free product, successful reviewers know that if they give a product a bad review then they are less likely to receive free products going forward. At least LPL has integrity.
I had an idea for a digital keypad deadbolt that has a number pad that does nothing and a key hole that _only_ triggers a security alarm when picked. The secret part is voice recognition and a pocket fob. When you push any preselected number of buttons and say them out loud and hit # it unlocks. If you press * after, it still unlocks but also sends a silent alarm to the Police.
It's amazing that they go through the whole process of making new locks and then put the same old cheap cores in them. Was that a kwikset or schlage keyway? lol....
LPL got this 'improved' lock open in less than one full second. Hilarious!! [side note: LPL was slacking the second time - took him two full seconds to get it open]
I can't understand why a manufacturer has not employed a competent locksmith to test their locks before sending them to the LPL for review. Seems ridiculous to me. Thanks, LPL, I never knew that most locks are worthless.
"Competent" locksmiths don't pick locks, that's not the business they're in. Locksmiths sell, install and service locks. They know how to destructively open locks as well.
You should do one on the electronic Schlage BE365. The code itself only allows 3 attempts before disabling for 5 minutes, but I'm curious how [not] solid their core is.
I wonder how many times this conversation has happened; Manufacturer; "Take down your video or we will sue you." LPL; What do you think the word "Lawyer" in the channel title means?" Manufacturer; "....." Manufacturer; "Have a nice day."
Well, it sure is a good thing only like 1 to 2 percent of home invasions involve lockpicking. People put too much effort into physically removing doors as an obstacle.
Scenario: behind the counter medications center. Idk how they store medications at pharmacys but i know they also have extra locks on the drug cabinets in hospitals.
It is amazing that when faced with terrible reviews, manufacturers don't fix the problems. Lock makers should watch your channel and make improvements so their locks are at least a bit of a challenge.
Oh dear they haven't improved then. They sent me one of their locks to review in my video 230, that lock was almost identical to the one you decoded and picked 3 years ago.
Could you improve this lock? What would you do to make this lock serviceable? Anything that can be opened with a rake is not a real lock. It only suggests privacy because it only keeps out the people that wouldn't pick your locks. What could the average person do to change this lock? Could an old core from a worn out better lock work?
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I’d say it’s quite appropriate that you usher in the Fall season with a peaceful raking video like this. Bravo!
just missing a zen garden
@pratikkore7947 That implies that he's have many locks strewn about! Each one "pickable" by raking! The sight of each shackle unlatched bringing zen.
Did the lock say "leaf me alone"?
Nice Fall (or Autumn if you prefer that) pun!
don't rake your leaves, they are an important habitat
It's funny. The manufacturer took the trouble to send the LPL an "improved" lock, but didn't bother to test it ahead of time to see if it's improved. How hard would it have been to go to a competent locksmith and say "Please try and pick this lock open." These people just don't seem to believe in testing their products.
Never try to put effort into something when all you have to do is buy the mass media.
Makes me wonder if the competitors are sending them
Have you considered their goal isn't to make an unpickable lock, its to make a lock the will make people feel secure. the fact is the majority of break ins do not involve picking the lock, they involve destructive methods. why take a minute to pick the lock when you can just break the window. I know for a fact that I would feel safer with an unlocked door and a large dog than I would with the most unpickable lock in the world.
Locksmith is not the same as picker. Some locksmiths do learn to pick, but their job is to service the locks, not open them. Coming to your house with an angle grinder and a drill because you forgot your keys is a side job they do because everyone asks locksmiths as the only thing in the phonebook with "lock" in the name. And a few more customer focused ones learn a small amount of picking skills to be less destructive.
What's needed for this is dedicated pickers, and it's cheaper to send cheap locks to reviewers than to hire someone with the right skillset. Even hiring someone at minimum wage to watch LPL videos and try out the things on the videos on their locks would cost around 30k+/yr with all the required expenses outside of direct pay for an employee. They could send out 300 locks for less than that, and every good review is doing double work as advertisement.
What did they say was the definition of madness? Same thing expecting different outcome? Crazy company!
LPL is the reason i removed all the locks on my house. Now its 100% pick proof!
😂
@michaelscarport don't forget the moat.
@@pickleeater3102and the spike pit
It's funny how they genuinely believed in their product enough to send it to LPL. They should get some better engineers, and a better marketing team.
I'de like to think they got told "send it to people who may review locks" and they saw the LPL name without looking further and then sent it...
My eyes were so far in the back of my head as soon as the wave rack came out.
Negative PR is still PR - that's all marketing team read before sending it out.
Yes, do not get the idea to make a better produt. Buy the competition and mass media instead!
Engineers said it was good, someone said no it isn't and sent it to here to prove a point.
I'm not even a lockpicker but can tell that when the first go-to is a wave rake, it's a bad lock 😆
Many of the locks he single pin picks his way through could also be raked. He single pin picks for the challenge.
Still better than the "tactical ziptie" McNally sometimes uses.
I'd also call in the bypass hook, but even worse if no tools are needed at all.
@@ehsnils That tool working is just sad.
@@ehsnils Or a stick he picked up from his garden.
"Please not the wave rake, please not the wave rake, please not the - "
Bold of them to send you a lock and dare you.
out of my nine kids one came out as cisgender. We’re putting him up for adoption.
Bet they are regretting it now
@dli7423 as you should but hey 1/9 isn't bad
All balls and no brains.
@@smashyrashy wth 💀
One of these days, I wanna see LPL open an electronic lock and show his testing setup including a multimeter, and say, "I wanted to show you my multimeter, so you can see it's not a Fluke."
sparky approved
*Slow clap* I like you 😂
I need a t-shirt that reads "It was not a fluke."
I would prefer to see what is a Fluke for comparison.
Good idea for LPL to add in an april fools videos
It appears the wave rake can open the lock faster than putting in the code. The other advantage of the wave rake is that you don’t have to worry about forgetting the code.
"The other advantage of the wave rake is that you don’t have to worry about forgetting the code" - You also don't have to worry about revealing the code to people behind you.
@@nomore6167LOL
70th like
The numpad is a red herring.
@@nomore6167 or to take the key with you at this point either.
The bravery of the manufacturer sending one
Manufacturer: “Please humiliate me daddy 🥵”
Thank you LPL, I've been a so called locksmith for a large county facility for years. My first lock picking device was always a drill, but not anymore. I appreciate your channel very much. Coming along with practice.
that's amazing!
Lock company: "Okay LPL, let's see you do that again"
LPL: "Hold my pick"
Even worse. Hold my rake.... If the rake comes out you know the lock is poop.
LPL: "PICK! There was no 'r' in there!" 😺😺😺
When I hear LPL say "novice could pick", I immediately think "uh ho, wave rake time" :D
Exactly my thoughts
Novice = Wave rake, combpick, or bypass driver.
I was thinking Lego Spaceman......
@@erinfinn2273 Or zipping it.
You had higher expectations than I did. I was thinking comb picking.
Wave rake says it all!
Oh, dear. Here comes the wave rake…
Lock Company: *gets positive review*
LPL: this just won't do.
I've heard it said that "locks are just there to keep honest people honest".
Your videos prove than in most cases, if someone really wants to get into a lock destructively or non-destructively they will.
In my experience, door locks with a mechanical keypad aren't guarding anything secure anyway... they're on something like an office storeroom or bathroom, and the pin number is almost certainly something which can be described as "the top four buttons", or something that similarly doesn't require remembering the actual number.
There is no escape from "The Rake". "An absolute nightmare." -Lock Maker Magazine. "The scariest movie have seen in my life." -Master Lock News.
It takes less time to open with the wave rake than to use the keypad. Maybe the lock manufacturer should include a wave rake along with -- or instead of -- the keys.
I see the main problem with mechanical dead bolts is the fact, that the order in which the numbers are depressed isn't important. Hence a set of fingerprints on the lock gives away the combination easily. This is even worse with a shiny surface like this dead bolt has. There are two ways to tackle this issue. You could clean the surface every time after using it, or you could make sure there are fingerprints all over it by randomly tapping through all the digits regularly.
there are some mechanical pushbutton locks that are sequence driven, and some that aren't.
The third method is to apply a durable matte coat to the buttons to obscure fingerprints.
I am honestly surprised that some of these companies don't ask you to be involved in the design process.
his consulting hourly rate and new build would probably bankrupt them as it would actually cost some real $$$ in total
Most of these fly by night companies couldn't care less how well the locks work. People buy them regardless. Spending more on design work just eats into profits and could add to manufacturing costs.
I worked for Sargent Lock for 12 years in the electronic locks division. The mechanical lock division suffered heavily from NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome.
@JCWren Meaning they buy it from a supplier and use it in their product without any real testing?
@@--_DJ_-- NIH means that unless it's designed in-house, they're not interested in input from external sources. The marketing team is who drives the product specifications. Engineering attempts to build what they specified, with compromises made in quality vs cost.
Making the industry of locks better, one lock at a time.
When LPL grabs his wave rake, you know the lock is done at that point.
Good that the makers are in touch, I suppose. Hope they listen to the points made in the video.
It's always funny when it takes longer to do the Covert Instruments ad than it does to rake the lock.
Well, if the manufacturer realizes that they need to step their game up and sent you the lock... I guess they're trying, but they don't know how. I like how you gave them that credit. But they can ASK you or watch any of your videos and you freely tell them how to add security pins and how other manufactures make their locks more secure. Of course I wouldn't purchase their locks, but if they fix these horrible issues and make it better, then send it in to you for a review... I cannot imagine no higher praise than an endorsement from the LPL ! I hope the Manufacture also reads these comments and steps up to the challenge.
ASMR heaven, so mesmerizing, so short. The same words, over and over. The same tone of voice. I don't care about locks. Just have to see those vids.
I love it when the LPL uses the word “fluke.”
Because the manufacturer sent LPL this lock it reminded me of another youtube channel, 'Just Rolled In', where the motor mechanic ends lots of stories with the words, 'The customer refused all repairs.' 🙂
So... With 2 months watching LPL and Bosnian Bill's videos and a couple hundreds in Covert Instrument tools I can basically become a GOD like quality tester in any of these lock manufacturers. Prove me wrong.
I about lost my mind when i saw how quick and easy that popped open
"... and then we're going to get this wave rake" ... Ah sh*t, here we go again!
It seems that a lot of people misunderstand how this works. The company wasn't so proud of this improved lock that they send it to LPL. This company works with a marketing company and said company sand it to anyone who has given number of subscribers and content featuring locks, security, or anything like that.
Length of video 2:35 . Talking about the lock 2:01. Picking the lock, twice, a mere:34 . Priceless!
Double-episode not-a-fluke!
RIP Elemake... When he busted out the wave rake I said "oh no" out loud. That was faster than picking a Master.
fellas be locking the door but leaving the window wide open.
I have been enjoying your videos, keep up the videos.
"...and then we're going to get this wave rake" was the part of this video that I laughed loudly! XD
LOVE IT.
That you show these combo, locks that have KEYS, and use the Key way to open them.
Just to show,,, WHY are you putting a KEY WAY, on a combination LOCK.
Production manager: "Should we test it before sending it out?"
Management: "Nahhhh its good look it shiny!"
Great demonstration thanks.
Never disappointed by your content, been watching for quite sometime always great video and as well a owner of some of your products. Keep them coming
It seems to me after watching all your videos that the key lock is always the weak spot. I put super glue on my key insert it in my lock 3 or 4 times and let it dry. I never use a key anyway. I think that would make any combination/key lock more secure. If I need to use a key I break into my garage, get my carb cleaner and spray it into the key slot, and wiggle the key in until it unlocks. 😂
Whenever I see him pull out the waverake I'm just like OOOOOF.
Every single time he gets the wave rake I am laughing and screaming "Nooo" at the same time, because I think it's such an unnecessary security flaw that obviously EVERYONE could've tested for during development.
a soon as he says "wave", it's over. I exclaimed "oh nooo" while shaking my head. lmao
Why I can't hold myself grinning and sometimes even laughing out loud when LPL takes out the wave rake
LPL has me convinced the best lock is the one with the German Shepherd behind it.
you know a company's fate is over when LPL pulls out the wave rake
LockPickingLawyer: (grabs wave rake)
Manufacturer: (facepalm)
Companies know that if you send reviewers a free product, successful reviewers know that if they give a product a bad review then they are less likely to receive free products going forward. At least LPL has integrity.
This man must irritate a LOT of manufacturers 😂
Second rake took several 100th of seconds more...
I think it was the lock's last breath.... :)
You mean rigo mortis? It was already dead.
Surely it can't be that bad.
**pulls out the wave rake**
Well then.
"Okay folks, now we did a good product, let's send it to LPL, so he's going to review it"
Famous last words.
Thanks for explaining things clearly and with positive energy 🖖🏻
When LPL pulls out the wave-rake you know how bad the lock is.
When the rake comes out, it's all over! LOL
ProTip: It's NEVER a fluke.
I had an idea for a digital keypad deadbolt that has a number pad that does nothing and a key hole that _only_ triggers a security alarm when picked. The secret part is voice recognition and a pocket fob. When you push any preselected number of buttons and say them out loud and hit # it unlocks. If you press * after, it still unlocks but also sends a silent alarm to the Police.
It's amazing that they go through the whole process of making new locks and then put the same old cheap cores in them. Was that a kwikset or schlage keyway? lol....
>i wonder how he's gonna
>Gets out the rake
>Oh.
LPL got this 'improved' lock open in less than one full second. Hilarious!!
[side note: LPL was slacking the second time - took him two full seconds to get it open]
I can't understand why a manufacturer has not employed a competent locksmith to test their locks before sending them to the LPL for review. Seems ridiculous to me. Thanks, LPL, I never knew that most locks are worthless.
"Competent" locksmiths don't pick locks, that's not the business they're in. Locksmiths sell, install and service locks. They know how to destructively open locks as well.
I’m so excited for the Black Friday sale
You should do one on the electronic Schlage BE365. The code itself only allows 3 attempts before disabling for 5 minutes, but I'm curious how [not] solid their core is.
Schlage core === WAVE RAKE
Thinking about it, if LPL starts a lock making company, I'LL TAKE ENTIRE STOCK!
I just stole your signature secret barbeque sauce by picking that same lock...lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"I didn't have a reason to make this video until I realized I could sell a product to you by reviewing it again."
When he pulls out the wave rake, you know it's a disaster and there is no recovery.
I'd love to see a teardown of the combination mechanism. Simplex locks don't have this issue, and a 12 button Simplex would be formidable.
I wonder how many times this conversation has happened;
Manufacturer; "Take down your video or we will sue you."
LPL; What do you think the word "Lawyer" in the channel title means?"
Manufacturer; "....."
Manufacturer; "Have a nice day."
Every time the rake gets out, you just know its gonna be a short process....
First thought when i saw the thumbnail, was "yeah that's a rake job" haha
Oh God, the wave rake.
Great video 👍🔝
0:45 "...then last week I started getting video recommendations on RUclips of positive reviews for this product..."
...and it became personal.
Well, it sure is a good thing only like 1 to 2 percent of home invasions involve lockpicking. People put too much effort into physically removing doors as an obstacle.
LPL has devastated my trust in locks...
At least he didn't use the magnet bypass trick on this one.
The wave rake of doooooooom.
LPL: *bombs new york*
LPL: let's do it again to make sure it wasn't a fluke
Land owner said there's nothing wrong w/ that lock 🔐 😅😅😅😅
Scenario: behind the counter medications center. Idk how they store medications at pharmacys but i know they also have extra locks on the drug cabinets in hospitals.
Always a disappointment when it takes longer to get the tools out than to open the lock with them.
I have to say the manufacturer has balls to send their lock to LPL, to be destroyed again😂
I lost it when he said "wave rake"
Waiting for McNally to find a way to steezify the picking of this lock LMAO
It is amazing that when faced with terrible reviews, manufacturers don't fix the problems. Lock makers should watch your channel and make improvements so their locks are at least a bit of a challenge.
When he says "wave rake" I know he is about to slay the lock. Companies really need to stop sending him locks so he can show how bad they are.
LPL's voice is a bit muffled here... hope you're okay and not sick, stay safe! As always, great video!
Oh dear they haven't improved then. They sent me one of their locks to review in my video 230, that lock was almost identical to the one you decoded and picked 3 years ago.
Could you improve this lock? What would you do to make this lock serviceable? Anything that can be opened with a rake is not a real lock. It only suggests privacy because it only keeps out the people that wouldn't pick your locks. What could the average person do to change this lock? Could an old core from a worn out better lock work?
I can't count the numbers of times I thought "don't bring out the wave rake". Then you do.
I always enjoy your videos, and I frequently learn new things. One question I have is, what ever happened to Bosnian Bill?
you know it is a bad lock when he busts out a wave rake.
The manufacutr probably was like: "Negative publicity is still publicty"
The manufacturer must have been suicidal to send you this!