This video is more like a praise than an honest review. Everything is so "great", "amazing", "super", "nice". Why not just go real and describe what features are there, are NOT there and someone may miss them, how is the price/value ratio in general, etc...
The video has been created by a music store, they are trying to sale this actually. Not a bad presentation, not a bad instrument. I’ve had clavinovas for years but have never used the audio recorder, line outs and so on. This model looks a good choice for me, at least on paper. Not to mention, in my opinion the looks of the S35/55 (the slim equivalents of the 145/165) are much more attractive than the CLP. On the downside, the speakers are most likely of a lesser quality. Need to check it out in person.
Gosh... he literally wears a Yahama Shirt... so what the hell do you expect please? I liked the review... it was informative. and there are other reviews on YT... critically about the 145 but saying that the 165 is a great deal for this price.
Hi Grabiel....the sound that comes from the piano that comes, out of phones and goes into a mixer? or audio interface...on my ydp 165 I can't hear it with that clarity, sharpness and nuance...could you explain it to me?...thanks for a good video...I see all yours greetings from Madrid Spain
I have been a big (distant) fan of the YDP-164. That is to say that I have played one several times, and I'm impressed. Accordingly, I have often recommended it as one of the best deals under €1K - just under 1000 euros really. I thought it had the GH action, but recently I was corrected by a well-informed RUclipsr, and told that it has the GH3 action, which would be the same as on the 165. So can somebody please clarify this issue? How can GH3 be a new innovation if it was already on the 164? The 164 lacks proper lineouts and it seems that the 165 does too. Yamaha should emphasise its strengths, like best piano samples and best speakers.
Hi Mike. He said the YDP165 is the first digital piano in their lineup to include the GH3 action, meaning no simpler models in the current lineup have it. He didn't say this is the first time for a YDP16# (where # would be 0,1,2,3,4,5) to have the GH3 action. In fact, the YDP 163 and 164 already had the GH3 action. The YDP160 was introduced in 2008, it was 64 notes of polyphony, it had a GHE (Graded Hammer Effect) action and the AWM engine. The YDP161 was introduced in 2011, it had the GH action and the AWM engine. The YDP162 had the GH action and Pure CF sound engine, so it was similar to your P255. The YDP163 had the GH3 and Pure CF, the YDP164 had GH3 and CFX, and YDP165 has GH3 and CFX. What I found strange is that Gabriel said that they added for the first time in a YDP smooth release... the YDP164 already had smooth release... unless he wasn't making any reference to previous iterations of the model (the 160's ) and meant that smooth release (along with GH3) is introduced for the first time in the current lineup, in the sense that no simpler current model has it.
@@Instrumental-Covers That's interesting. The 160 has a similar spec to the P80, (which I was using) with GHE, 64-note polyphony and AWM sound. I think it's AWM2 to be precise. It's a good combination, especially with headphones, but AWM is the devil to amplify well. CF and CFX are in another realm, which is why the P-121 with only 73 notes is a much better buy than the P-45. More polyphony and better interface too. And better speakers I'm guessing. Well you should know. You're very clued-up on speakers.
@@Zoco101 Both the P160 and P80 had the AWM engine, not the AWM2. In fact, AWM2 is AWM with a digital filter to sculpt sound for remarkable levels of expression, according to Yamaha. They use it only in their professional line of synthesizers such as the Montage, MODX, MX, and also in their stage keyboards such as the CP and YC series. The AWM is a high quality engine, in fact it is the technology used in Genos, Tyros, and PSR-S series. I don't think the AWM was intrinsically difficult to amplify, as it was used in the Yamaha CP300 and CP33 stage pianos. I think the issue was the piano sample in the entry level P series needed to go through an equalizer to be "purified", but not a typical graphic equalizer, but a parametric equalizer (one with low and high shelves, not just bell types).
@@Instrumental-Covers Ah yes, now I remember reading a CP spec mentioning AWM2. What is your opinion on the CP-73? It uses a "balanced action". Seems like a great stage piano to me.
@@Zoco101 I haven't seen it in person yet, but I am sure it is a great stage piano. By the way, it also has a "Hamburg Grand", so it contains a Steinway sample.
Few and not much relevant IMHO (164 owner here). You can compare them watching the 164/165 spec on Yamaha website. I would expect BT MIDi at least for the price difference.
@@franciscocalvo1980 You say few and not relevant. Is there any chance you can mention the specific differences? I was not able to find them from comparing specs in Yamaha's website.
@@Lucas-mm5vx thanks for that info. Also a very interesting alternative i didn't know before. Are you happy with it? Have you compared it with the yamahas?
@@argi0774 I'd say they are at the same level. Kawai is better price, action is ok, but light for my taste (just personal choice). God thnig about the KDP, piano sample is recorded for each single key, wich is amazing in this price point.
@@franciscocalvo1980 Just compare the sound in the room. Out of the speakers, not line out and not headphones. Which is the main usecase. And here, the YDPs are very weak.
I tried both side by side at store, I didn't find such difference. 2x20 W each. At home, no one told me about that when hear me playing. I think it's a personal preference, not trying to convince anyone. If I'd buy the Kawai I'm pretty sure I' be very happy with the sound, but it was the action that made my choice. Anyway, two great DP for practising for many years.
Only has the 10 samples. I just got one of these. The app literally pulls all the functions within your piano and makes them accessible on a screen, so it won't be adding much as far as features go. It doesn't let you close the lid like other models do. I wish I had 4 or 5 grand to throw down on a clavinova series. All that aside, it does have the flagship CFX Grand. It doesn't have any uprights. If you have played a concert grand you probably won't see any upgrade in an upright piano. If you are really budget tight then spring for a Casio. Casio makes great digital pianos but they use modeling to create the piano unless they collaborate with an acoustic piano maker. The collaboration is going to cost you though. Yamaha and Kawai can just sample one of their own acoustic grands. I wish this had all the features that a higher end Clavinova has but that is going to cost you money.
I can't wait to buy!
This video is more like a praise than an honest review. Everything is so "great", "amazing", "super", "nice". Why not just go real and describe what features are there, are NOT there and someone may miss them, how is the price/value ratio in general, etc...
The video has been created by a music store, they are trying to sale this actually. Not a bad presentation, not a bad instrument. I’ve had clavinovas for years but have never used the audio recorder, line outs and so on. This model looks a good choice for me, at least on paper. Not to mention, in my opinion the looks of the S35/55 (the slim equivalents of the 145/165) are much more attractive than the CLP. On the downside, the speakers are most likely of a lesser quality. Need to check it out in person.
Gosh... he literally wears a Yahama Shirt... so what the hell do you expect please?
I liked the review... it was informative.
and there are other reviews on YT... critically about the 145 but saying that the 165 is a great deal for this price.
Can I connect an external speaker to this the ydp 165?
Yes, you can use the headphone output as a line out for external speaker connection. Thanks for watching!
@@kraftmusicHi, is there transpose facility in this piano?
Hows compared to yam p515 with bosenberg grand sounds
Hi Grabiel....the sound that comes from the piano that comes, out of phones and goes into a mixer? or audio interface...on my ydp 165 I can't hear it with that clarity, sharpness and nuance...could you explain it to me?...thanks for a good video...I see all yours greetings from Madrid Spain
I have been a big (distant) fan of the YDP-164. That is to say that I have played one several times, and I'm impressed. Accordingly, I have often recommended it as one of the best deals under €1K - just under 1000 euros really. I thought it had the GH action, but recently I was corrected by a well-informed RUclipsr, and told that it has the GH3 action, which would be the same as on the 165. So can somebody please clarify this issue? How can GH3 be a new innovation if it was already on the 164?
The 164 lacks proper lineouts and it seems that the 165 does too. Yamaha should emphasise its strengths, like best piano samples and best speakers.
Hi Mike. He said the YDP165 is the first digital piano in their lineup to include the GH3 action, meaning no simpler models in the current lineup have it. He didn't say this is the first time for a YDP16# (where # would be 0,1,2,3,4,5) to have the GH3 action. In fact, the YDP 163 and 164 already had the GH3 action. The YDP160 was introduced in 2008, it was 64 notes of polyphony, it had a GHE (Graded Hammer Effect) action and the AWM engine. The YDP161 was introduced in 2011, it had the GH action and the AWM engine. The YDP162 had the GH action and Pure CF sound engine, so it was similar to your P255. The YDP163 had the GH3 and Pure CF, the YDP164 had GH3 and CFX, and YDP165 has GH3 and CFX. What I found strange is that Gabriel said that they added for the first time in a YDP smooth release... the YDP164 already had smooth release... unless he wasn't making any reference to previous iterations of the model (the 160's ) and meant that smooth release (along with GH3) is introduced for the first time in the current lineup, in the sense that no simpler current model has it.
@@Instrumental-Covers That's interesting. The 160 has a similar spec to the P80, (which I was using) with GHE, 64-note polyphony and AWM sound. I think it's AWM2 to be precise. It's a good combination, especially with headphones, but AWM is the devil to amplify well. CF and CFX are in another realm, which is why the P-121 with only 73 notes is a much better buy than the P-45. More polyphony and better interface too. And better speakers I'm guessing. Well you should know. You're very clued-up on speakers.
@@Zoco101 Both the P160 and P80 had the AWM engine, not the AWM2. In fact, AWM2 is AWM with a digital filter to sculpt sound for remarkable levels of expression, according to Yamaha. They use it only in their professional line of synthesizers such as the Montage, MODX, MX, and also in their stage keyboards such as the CP and YC series. The AWM is a high quality engine, in fact it is the technology used in Genos, Tyros, and PSR-S series. I don't think the AWM was intrinsically difficult to amplify, as it was used in the Yamaha CP300 and CP33 stage pianos. I think the issue was the piano sample in the entry level P series needed to go through an equalizer to be "purified", but not a typical graphic equalizer, but a parametric equalizer (one with low and high shelves, not just bell types).
@@Instrumental-Covers Ah yes, now I remember reading a CP spec mentioning AWM2. What is your opinion on the CP-73? It uses a "balanced action". Seems like a great stage piano to me.
@@Zoco101 I haven't seen it in person yet, but I am sure it is a great stage piano. By the way, it also has a "Hamburg Grand", so it contains a Steinway sample.
Dear Kraft Music,
Which song are you playing at 3:00?
I’d love to Play it.
Greetings Me
How big is the difference between ydp 164 and ydp 165?
Zero
@@argi0774 From personal experience?
@@Gluxable From specs and review
Few and not much relevant IMHO (164 owner here). You can compare them watching the 164/165 spec on Yamaha website. I would expect BT MIDi at least for the price difference.
@@franciscocalvo1980 You say few and not relevant. Is there any chance you can mention the specific differences? I was not able to find them from comparing specs in Yamaha's website.
What piece is he playing in the beginning?
How do I connect it to my iPad
Clp 725 or ydp 165?
same problem here
Also here and also have possibility for a used cpl470.
@@revilo16 actually, i have An used Casio AP 710 Very cheap in the ring...
@@Lucas-mm5vx thanks for that info.
Also a very interesting alternative i didn't know before. Are you happy with it?
Have you compared it with the yamahas?
165 Piano sound better and natural...725 key action better.
Thanks. I own one YPD-164, I'm happy with it. The music you play starting at 2:30 is a song or just improvisation?
Congratualations. It's a very good instrument.
How cOmpared to KawaI ES 8 OR 900
I can buy 164 for the same price as 145. What should I choose :)?
164
KDP 120
@@argi0774 I'd say they are at the same level. Kawai is better price, action is ok, but light for my taste (just personal choice). God thnig about the KDP, piano sample is recorded for each single key, wich is amazing in this price point.
@@franciscocalvo1980 Just compare the sound in the room. Out of the speakers, not line out and not headphones. Which is the main usecase. And here, the YDPs are very weak.
I tried both side by side at store, I didn't find such difference. 2x20 W each. At home, no one told me about that when hear me playing. I think it's a personal preference, not trying to convince anyone. If I'd buy the Kawai I'm pretty sure I' be very happy with the sound, but it was the action that made my choice. Anyway, two great DP for practising for many years.
Does it have bluetooth?
How will this age do you think?
Forever !! Even a cheap Yamaha PSR keyboard last 2 decades 😂
Only has the 10 samples. I just got one of these. The app literally pulls all the functions within your piano and makes them accessible on a screen, so it won't be adding much as far as features go. It doesn't let you close the lid like other models do. I wish I had 4 or 5 grand to throw down on a clavinova series. All that aside, it does have the flagship CFX Grand. It doesn't have any uprights. If you have played a concert grand you probably won't see any upgrade in an upright piano. If you are really budget tight then spring for a Casio. Casio makes great digital pianos but they use modeling to create the piano unless they collaborate with an acoustic piano maker. The collaboration is going to cost you though. Yamaha and Kawai can just sample one of their own acoustic grands. I wish this had all the features that a higher end Clavinova has but that is going to cost you money.
Its support Android phone..?
Yes now it does!
How can I justify spending this much and only get ten sounds? Is it really only ten sounds???
This is a piano
Great piano and action. I love my 164.
How much 2nd hand bottem dollar
Nikolaus Village
Yamaha forgot P series!😭
Así es, sobretodo el P45
I want to p125 and p515 between.😁
Nord Piano sample better than Yamaha.😩
Compra Nord entonces
Nah, Yamaha nice too!