Richard Petty's Big Engine

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
  • The 1983 season was coming to a close, but the championship battle was heating up with just three races to go. Darrell Waltrip was within reach of championship leader Bobby Allison. But Waltrip knew he would have to be on his A-game, and need some misfortune for Allison. Richard Petty, sitting at 197 career wins, finally had some mojo back after a winless 1982 season. It was Petty’s first winless season in over 20 years despite a 5th-place finish in points. After the number 43 Pontiac qualified mid field, it appeared it would be a quiet day for the Petty team. And it was for the most part.
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Комментарии • 384

  • @metronorthfoamer4085
    @metronorthfoamer4085 27 дней назад +121

    problem is back then if you disqualified the illegal cars there’d be no winner

    • @dannypowers4995
      @dannypowers4995 26 дней назад +5

      @@metronorthfoamer4085 Exactly. 100 % true.

    • @MrJohnnyDistortion
      @MrJohnnyDistortion 25 дней назад

      Why is that?

    • @dannypowers4995
      @dannypowers4995 25 дней назад +18

      @@MrJohnnyDistortion all the cars were cheating one way or the other.

    • @vinewood8295
      @vinewood8295 25 дней назад +17

      @@MrJohnnyDistortion Basically if you weren't cheating, your weren't trying hard enough to win...

    • @MrJohnnyDistortion
      @MrJohnnyDistortion 25 дней назад

      @@vinewood8295
      So you have to be a cheat to increase your chances of success? Is that what your values are?

  • @hectorzambrano4092
    @hectorzambrano4092 27 дней назад +68

    Bro literally said "There's no replacement for displacement".

    • @kevinkelley3657
      @kevinkelley3657 25 дней назад +1

      Their are actually several replacements for displacement. Compression, nitrous, turn it 20,000 rpms. But in a racing class with rules, added displacement is an easy way to add power. If you get away with adding displacment, shame on the tech inspectors.

    • @insulman100
      @insulman100 21 день назад +4

      @@kevinkelley3657 You're wrong simply because you can put all of the power adders on the bigger engine. All other things being equal the bigger engine will make more power

    • @confuse3671
      @confuse3671 13 дней назад

      @@kevinkelley3657 On the big tracks, keep in mind they have restrictors that attempt to limit the power. Which is probably why Petty did better with the bigger engine... but not that much better.

    • @GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeDeath147
      @GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeDeath147 2 дня назад

      ​@@insulman100cars from the 60's and 70's were slow as shit. Todays minivans are faster than most "muscle cars"

  • @josephbarr511
    @josephbarr511 23 дня назад +17

    What was funny is that Waltrip said that the difference between the 1st and 2nd place purse was…$35k. Then he said, they took my $35k and paid Richard’s fine with it, LOL. This was on a DJ interview a few years back. The story is hilarious.

  • @BurningEmerald
    @BurningEmerald 27 дней назад +74

    “Yeah, we cheated. In two different ways.”
    “Understandable, have a good day.✌️”

    • @lowtunedg9211
      @lowtunedg9211 23 дня назад +4

      Literally everyone cheated back then, they all talk about it now 😂😂😂

    • @benn454
      @benn454 21 день назад +5

      @@lowtunedg9211 If you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin.

    • @nickthompson9697
      @nickthompson9697 11 дней назад

      Smokey Yunick has entered the chat.

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 5 дней назад +1

      @@BurningEmerald The cheating at NASCAR is nowhere near as bad as the cheating at MLB. Baseball refuses to implement a true salary cap, allowing NYY to get into the playoffs 80 percent of the time. NY doesn’t always win the World Series, but what other team has the expectation of being in the playoffs 80 percent of the time? Crap, what other fanbase never has to worry about losing its favorite players to free agency? How is it not systemic cheating when MLB refuses to force the teams to play with the same sized payrolls?

    • @GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeDeath147
      @GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeDeath147 2 дня назад

      ​@@lowtunedg9211there's a difference between ingenuity and blatant cheating. Petty was a blatant cheater

  • @tanker335
    @tanker335 26 дней назад +29

    200 wins by Petty is the most untouchable record in sports. Just think about it. You would have to win 10 races a year for 20 years straight just to tie it. Or you could try 20 wins a season for 10 years running if that will make it easier.

    • @SealofPerfection
      @SealofPerfection 26 дней назад +8

      Yeah, they often raced several times a week back when Richard was dominating. There just aren't enough races now for anyone to ever hit that number. I think they run about 8 less per year now on average.

    • @landonsewell81
      @landonsewell81 24 дня назад +2

      Back in the early to late 60s NASCAR ran on Friday, Saturday and Sunday 60 races a year and the competition wasn't as high if you had five cars finish on the lead lap that was equivalent to have 20-25 car finish on the lead lap today

    • @stepanbandera5206
      @stepanbandera5206 23 дня назад

      And Pontiac had nothing to do with it.

    • @johnhiggs325
      @johnhiggs325 22 дня назад +2

      Petty earned that record by being the best… at cheating and playing the NASCAR politics of his day. His racing skills were undeniable, but not that special.

    • @gregrowe1168
      @gregrowe1168 21 день назад +2

      That season he won 27 times, he raced in over 50 races. He literally was beating plumbers and carpenters in some of those races 😅.

  • @grahammonohan92
    @grahammonohan92 22 дня назад +34

    This was back when racing was racing. Not the 💩we have today!

    • @zeitgeist2720
      @zeitgeist2720 21 день назад

      Back when winning was cheating! Yeah sounds shit

    • @alexmaccain2362
      @alexmaccain2362 17 дней назад

      nostalgia is one hellova drug

    • @Xurikyo
      @Xurikyo 8 дней назад

      Keep trying kiddo you almost sounded smart. ​@@alexmaccain2362

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 5 дней назад +1

      One of our fine RUclips commentators, indeed one “grahammonohan92,” lets loose with a picture of a brown triangularly shaped amiable fellow with big brown eyes. What is the nature of this singular individual?

    • @GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeDeath147
      @GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeDeath147 2 дня назад

      What a dumb comment. This wasn't racing, this was cheating. Back then most of the field would be lapped with only a handful on the lead lap.

  • @sergeantmasson3669
    @sergeantmasson3669 26 дней назад +54

    NOT the first time that Richard Petty had an illegal NASCAR engine either.

    • @stziggy16
      @stziggy16 23 дня назад +2

      He had a falling out with Maurice after he got caught over boring the engine or something like that. Richard was pissed because it made them look bad. I think he fired his brother for it

    • @edmondcamp2878
      @edmondcamp2878 22 дня назад +5

      @@sergeantmasson3669 With the exception of the Wood Brothers and Waddell Wilson they all cheated or as Junior Johnson use to say being creative lol.

    • @sergeantmasson3669
      @sergeantmasson3669 22 дня назад

      @@edmondcamp2878 WRONG. You're a NASCAR expert, how? How many NASCAR race cars/trucks have you ever driven?

    • @edmondcamp2878
      @edmondcamp2878 22 дня назад

      @@sergeantmasson3669 Man the only thing I’ve ever raced in as the little go carts at Panama City Florida and Pigeon Forge Tennessee. I never said I was an expert but I’ve been a race fan since 1976. I can just tell you what I’ve read and seen and heard racecar drivers and crew members say like on MRN or Ned Jarrett’s Goodys world of racing and others like that.
      The only racecar driver I’ve ever met was Bill Elliott at the local Ford dealer where I live.
      I wasn’t a particularly Bill Elliott fan not that I had anything against Bill but he drove a Ford and I pulled for the Chevrolets.
      My Brother-in-law worked in the in field dirt track in Douglasville and Woodstock Georgia and I was briefly acquainted with a dirt racer by the name of Leon Sells and another one named Stan Massey who are deceased now.
      One funny story about Leon Sells if that’s how he spelled his name is he went down to the Atlanta Racetrack in 1974 to enter his car in a sportsman race (Xfinity I think now) and he blew all the top dogs away Petty,Pearson, Allison etc. but NASCAR disqualified him because they said his car was illegal. Years later I was working for an AC Delco/Motorcraft distributor and delivered to a dealership called Lee Motor Company GMC in Mableton Georgia and Leon lived right behind the dealership and the parts manager was Steve Lee the owners son and I said they say Leon went down to the Atlanta raceway (that’s what they called it then Atlanta international raceway) and they said his car was illegal and Steve Lee said I know it was illegal I helped him build it.
      No man I’m no expert I can hardly tell a spark plug from an oil plug.
      I’m just a long time fan and some things are just what I’ve read.

    • @edmondcamp2878
      @edmondcamp2878 21 день назад +1

      @@sergeantmasson3669 I can just go by what I’ve heard people like Barney Hall, Ned Jarrett and others said.

  • @billwendell6886
    @billwendell6886 5 дней назад

    I was just at Petty's Garage and Museum and got to meet him. If you are visiting on a week day you have a pretty good chance he will drop in. He looked like he had to be somewhere but took time for a pic and autographs. And he looks you in the eye and thanks you for coming in. Another stop on my NASCAR in Carolinas was Darlington, in the the museum there is a display of illegal mods and parts they caught. Smokey Yunic once said half the rules in NASCAR are because of me. My fave of his was a 2 inch fuel line pipe with an extra 3 gal of fuel they didn't catch because the tank was on spec.

  • @jesterzcourt1522
    @jesterzcourt1522 24 дня назад +10

    We all knew that Waltrips car was illegal,very few races Junior Johnson was ever involved in he didnt cheat.

  • @donrep8
    @donrep8 2 дня назад +1

    I've always said, in NASCAR, it's the crew chief who wins the race , not always the driver.

  • @originalname02
    @originalname02 27 дней назад +28

    Heavy missed opportunity to title this video "Richards Petty Big Engine

  • @6allmotivepowers363
    @6allmotivepowers363 27 дней назад +43

    I have to imagine the 2nd place car was also illegal since it left the track before it could be inspected. It was a Junior Johnson car, soooo...
    Also, Petty went winless in '78 as well

    • @henryturnerjr3857
      @henryturnerjr3857 27 дней назад +7

      Well, by Junior's philosophy, "He didn't get caught, sooooo" 😂

  • @fairfaxcat1312
    @fairfaxcat1312 5 дней назад +4

    The King will always be The King.

  • @samuelgoodman2825
    @samuelgoodman2825 27 дней назад +72

    Dale Earnhardt wouldn't have 7 championships if Tim Richmond had not gotten sick.

    • @edmondcamp2878
      @edmondcamp2878 27 дней назад +18

      If Alan Kulwicki or Davey Allison and Tim Richmond had lived Earnhardt wouldn’t have won seven championships. I wasn’t a Davey Allison fan or Alan Kulwicki for that matter but even Earnhardt said if those three had lived he wouldn’t have won as many championships.

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 26 дней назад +7

      ​@@edmondcamp2878exactly, the heart of NASCAR died and the sport became unwatchable trash after the 1992 Hooters 500.

    • @g-mang-man7924
      @g-mang-man7924 26 дней назад +16

      Or if Mark Martin's carb spacer was welded instead of just bolted.

    • @rolltide9547
      @rolltide9547 26 дней назад +16

      If he lived another 10 years Earnhardt may have had 9 or 10.

    • @edmondcamp2878
      @edmondcamp2878 26 дней назад +8

      @@rolltide9547 No he wasn’t winning as much even if he did finish second in the points in 2000 and he hadn’t won a championship since 94 and you had people like Jimmy Johnson,Tony Stuart, Matt Kennseth,Kurt Busch and others to contend with.

  • @lordracer7743
    @lordracer7743 27 дней назад +17

    The thing is: he was allowed to keep his win.

    • @tombo6245
      @tombo6245 26 дней назад +1

      Yeah he went over that in the video bro

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway 19 дней назад

      So…why NOT cheat?
      Ergo why have rules at all?

    • @topcat43truffles15
      @topcat43truffles15 17 дней назад +2

      @@lordracer7743
      Yep, but that was explained.
      And I was at that race, was happy to see Richard win ( my only time)
      But Petty’s name was tarnished, forcing him to fire Maurice….
      Never knew the story about Waltrip until I watched this..
      As much as I’m a Petty fan, given the circumstances, he should have been disqualified, but with Waltrip long gone with a potential illegal car, what should they have done?
      Give it to Benny? He was probably gone too… I guessed they also considered Richards popularity, Waltrip being hated by so many and figured this was the best of a bad situation…

  • @yojoeski
    @yojoeski 27 дней назад +9

    Petty also had a winless season in 1978.

    • @mrterp04
      @mrterp04 26 дней назад +2

      Hence why he started the 1979 season with limited STP sponsorship

  • @jocksavard41241
    @jocksavard41241 27 дней назад +58

    this is when bill france jr heavily favored petty cuz he wanted him to get 200 wins.

    • @tankerboysabot
      @tankerboysabot 27 дней назад +4

      I still think Richard is at 199.

    • @Iceberg86300
      @Iceberg86300 27 дней назад +13

      Come on now.
      NASCAR would *_never_* favor one driver or team over another!

    • @roymcdre9180
      @roymcdre9180 27 дней назад

      Whyyyy we hear on dale jr download all the time about illegal cars ​@@tankerboysabot

    • @atlfan48
      @atlfan48 26 дней назад +6

      That's kind of funny. The Frances and Pettys had a interesting relationship. Lee was an early star that lost a 4th title because of a penalty handed down by NASCAR in the '50s. I can't remember the details but the penalty was steep. Look there was no doubt there was no doubt they looked the other way many times on the 43 from the '60s-'83. But they did the same for the Johnson 11, 3, 24, and 48. Rest assured even today no car on the grid is rulebook legal. In a way, Petty paid a higher price than any fine from NASCAR. The incident pretty much ripped the family apart for several years. Adam's hoped for Cup career was going to heal old wounds as according to their RUclips channel Timmy, Ritchie, and Mark all were slated to work on Adam's 45. Sadly not to be.

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 26 дней назад +3

      The Petty's were big fan favorites and the sport needed the publicity. I am thankful NASCAR was so popular. Honestly after the 1992 Hooters 500 the sport has been unwatchable boring trash. I can remember being a 7yr old kid waking up extra early in Hawaii to catch races in 1990 because of the timezones watching my favorite driver Richard Petty come nearly dead last every race. The Days Of Thunder time period was definitely prime time NASCAR.

  • @topcat43truffles15
    @topcat43truffles15 18 дней назад

    Great Story!
    I was at this race all those years ago.
    I remember reading the papers the next day and them discussing Petty’s illegal engine and the illegal tire swap.
    Being a Petty Fan I was happy to see Petty kept the win. It was also the only time I ever was at a race Petty won!
    But I also was surprised that they let him keep it with 2 significant infractions of the rules.
    The information you provided about Waltrip was something I had never heard.
    Being a member of the anyone but Waltrip club and NASCAR knowing how unpopular Waltrip was I always thought that was why they didn’t take the win away from Petty. A Fan rebellion over Waltrip getting the win.
    Finding the information you provided here about how Waltrip’s car was probably just as illegal as Petty’s puts the whole thing in a different light. How could they disqualify Petty from the win when Waltrip’s disappearing act after the race meant his possible illegal car couldn’t be inspected. I can imagine how the reaction would have been if the skipped over Waltrip and gave the win to Benny who by that time was probably long gone. It’s only taken 40 years for me to finally learn the probable truth about what actually happened on that day. Under the circumstances, I’ll say NASCAR made the correct decision, as distasteful as it must have been at the time.
    Thank You so much for filling me in on a piece of history that I was lucky enough to have been there to see and always wondered about. 👍🏻🍻😎

  • @lowcruisin7637
    @lowcruisin7637 27 дней назад +16

    Darrell Waltrip describes the story very differently.

  • @davidalsip162
    @davidalsip162 26 дней назад +9

    If you watch other Nascar stories on RUclips it sounds like all the front running teams were constantly cheating.

    • @jeffreyroth7517
      @jeffreyroth7517 23 дня назад +4

      If they win the race, there is something on the car that isn't exactly by the rulebook. Guaranteed.

    • @BillLaBrie
      @BillLaBrie 22 дня назад

      Creativity!

    • @henrylicious
      @henrylicious 21 день назад +1

      ​@@jeffreyroth7517Heck, listen to some of the mid-pack guys from that era. You had to bend the rules to get 20th.

  • @breakawaymotorsports
    @breakawaymotorsports 25 дней назад +17

    He's got the BIG iron under his foot. King Petty forever!

    • @RichardQuaid
      @RichardQuaid 20 дней назад +1

      He cheated. Shallow victory, I don't care what the others did.

    • @breakawaymotorsports
      @breakawaymotorsports 20 дней назад

      @@RichardQuaid I say he improvised..adapted and overcame!

    • @RichardQuaid
      @RichardQuaid 20 дней назад

      @@breakawaymotorsports Try it today.

    • @RichardQuaid
      @RichardQuaid 20 дней назад

      Remember when Mikey got caught lining his intake manifold with some concoction at Daytona? They still try cheating, big penalties now. You don't get away with stealing races anymore.

  • @OldielocksNmo50
    @OldielocksNmo50 21 день назад +5

    Talking about pushing the envelope... there'll never be another Smokey Yunick...

  • @KillyJoe
    @KillyJoe 26 дней назад +2

    That’s brilliant using the wax to trick the air pump test into thinking it was a smaller motor. Lol idk what kinda wax he used but something random woulda been fine I’m sure you wouldn’t need much to get the job they needed done and it’d just mix into the engine oil i assume no problem. Richard surely had to know even if he was naive to it he woulda noticed he was just faster than ppl and it didn’t make sense he woulda asked but he knew anyway it’s way too much fun not to and seems like they know you always keep your wins anyway

  • @Jbarb777
    @Jbarb777 22 дня назад +2

    In the previous Grand Prix, F1 disqualified race winner George Russell for the car being 3 or 4 Ibs under the legal limit - LOL

  • @erwinpadgett1050
    @erwinpadgett1050 27 дней назад +5

    And NASCAR's inconsistency to be consistent still shows today. All this shows in their attendance and Fan Base. I lost interest in the sport because of this as have many fans. Yes the fans, sponsors, and viewers win when it all is correctly called under the rules in place. That includes NASCAR for doing what you wrote the rules for to start with!

  • @GhostSniper67
    @GhostSniper67 17 дней назад +1

    This was the good ole days of racing, not the stupid IROC racing today.

  • @baronoflivonia.3512
    @baronoflivonia.3512 2 дня назад

    My Grand Dad was a NASCAR Fan up until day he died. He retired from Ford Engineering as Head of Dyno Lab in 75. All through the 60's I met every FoMoCo racer that had any Factory help, and got to sit in winning LeMan GT at big ceremony when the winners were rolled out of trailers at a Sunday shindig for all the Ford Engineering employees. Many fond memories on Michigan Ave. 2nd to last time I saw him he gave me a box of paperwork, all correspondence between him and Hank the Deuce is up in my attic, things like Engineering employee's home phone #'s in late 50's, building plans from New Dyno building on Michigan Ave. Before new building Dyno Lab was at Mercury Livernois Plant, Ford Motor Company was involved with Racing in every form, but Papa liked NASCAR the best, it proved those engines. He also had a hand in 65 Indy motor and head work on Boss & Cleveland motors. The 1st Mustang to get a Big Block was a 66, a Engineering employee's son's car, that paved way for those FE and cammer engines to fit. He always liked Mickey Thompson too. My best meeting was Jackie Stewart and Mario Andretti, a Tie.

    • @El_Peto
      @El_Peto 2 дня назад

      That's pretty cool. I met Mario, nice guy

  • @user-mw8xd1pg8g
    @user-mw8xd1pg8g 21 день назад +5

    Left side tires ... right side tire. Shouldn't be a mandate but a team strategy.
    Like, when to switch from dry to wet tires or from wet to dry tires.
    It's a "sticky" rule.

    • @topcat43truffles15
      @topcat43truffles15 17 дней назад +1

      @@user-mw8xd1pg8g
      From a point of safety you’re wrong.
      How would you as an owner or driver feel if someone violated that tire rule, blew out a tire from overheating, started a 15 car pileup, destroying hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of damage to race cars, potentially injuring drivers or crew, even maybe spectators?
      How about a lifetime ban from the sport, fines matching the cost of repairing everyones cars and lastly,
      Criminal charges if anyone was hurt…You might think differently about these things…
      Petty’s crew took a gamble which worked out for them that time, but like I said what happens if something goes horribly wrong?

  •  20 дней назад +3

    back when NASCAR was worth watching.

  • @joshhuffine4522
    @joshhuffine4522 27 дней назад +9

    This wasn't the only "BIG" engine petty had!!

    • @davidreece5867
      @davidreece5867 26 дней назад +5

      Nope, he got caught with one in 1974, and his car that he won his 200th win was probably oversized. They never did a post race inspection of it.

    • @topmech71
      @topmech71 25 дней назад

      @@davidreece5867 I always wondered about that win in 1984 at daytona his last one....didn't know if they did an inspection on that motor

    • @dwc4343
      @dwc4343 11 дней назад

      @@topmech71 They always do a post race inspection. IT was a legal car. It's in the Smithsonian, so it would not be hard to tear back down and check it again, but there's no need to. Only time he ran an oversized engine was at this race in the video and he fired Maurice for cheating. The King is one man that did not have to cheat to win.

  • @b.w.22
    @b.w.22 27 дней назад +9

    Oh man - the people that say Petty only has 199 wins because of this controversy are out of their minds. NASCAR may now be (and this is debatable in the extreme) a rulebound and somewhat inflexible sanctioning body, stock car racing of the past was very different. A sport with its roots in the hopped-up cars of moonshiners, the characters who drove them, and the myriad little tracks and questionable race promoters is built on a different set of goals and values than many other Motorsports. As the show grew into a sport, it needed to claw back some Motorsport legitimacy and much was done to try to make things more fair. This time in the 80’s was a time of transition and NASCAR as we know it came out of it.
    But make no mistake - every last team at the time was doing nearly everything they could to “get competitive,” as Jimmy Means says. The Petty’s were no different than Junior and this time they got caught. NASCAR was never interested in taking away wins and for the most part merely fined teams and docked them points because the races were focused on the attendees rather than some wider TV audience. NASCAR, the teams, and track owners all needed people to come back to the next race and for this was more interested in spectacle than perhaps fairness: NASCAR rules weren’t meant to keep things fair, they were meant to keep the races from being boring by having someone run away with things.

    • @davidreece5867
      @davidreece5867 26 дней назад +3

      When the CUP series started. It was called the “strictly stock” division. Meaning the cars weren’t supposed to be modified at all. The first strictly stock car race was won by a car with modified shocks and was disqualified. Petty had at least two wins with oversized engines and the engine in his 200th win was allegedly oversized as well.

    • @b.w.22
      @b.w.22 26 дней назад +1

      @@davidreece5867 - Oh, I believe it. It may sound mean, but I’ve always felt that “Grand National” or Winston Cup racing had more kinship to the WWE (even more the NWA) than Formula 1. It became more, I dunno, serious through the 80’s, but NASCAR always had an enormous interest in its “stars,” since they tended to be the draw for races. As sponsorship became more and more important, some of that deference went away in service of the “sport” itself, but in the 70’s, Richard Petty was NASCAR. That he got away with this or that is no accident.

    • @MrJohnnyDistortion
      @MrJohnnyDistortion 25 дней назад

      199

    • @charlieromeo7663
      @charlieromeo7663 21 день назад

      The cars just looked better back then, didn’t they? Come on folks, do we really think NASCAR has any shreds of integrity and credibility, then or now?

    • @b.w.22
      @b.w.22 21 день назад

      @@charlieromeo7663 - I count this as a positive, personally, but to me NASCAR in the past was something more like the WWF than like the Indy 500. It wasn’t complete fiction like wrestling, but they are from the same region and they both were keenly interested in the experience of the crowds at events. Like Petty’s motor wasn’t 1cc over like Junior/Brewer’s was in 1991(?) - it was like 25ci larger! There’s a reason the Petty’s thought they could get away with that.

  • @israelmathes6268
    @israelmathes6268 23 дня назад +2

    The tires is what made the difference. The downside no one talks about is that Maurice Petty fell on the sword and cost him is career in NASCAR it took years for Mike Beam to admit they all knew it was big.

    • @joneskendrick2084
      @joneskendrick2084 4 дня назад

      Wrong. Racing is all about horsepower. Period. In NASCAR oval racing softer tires may help a bit short term but they also quickly wear... meaning you have to stop giving up valuable track distance. Engines, i.e. horsepower, doesn't. Maurice didn't fall on any sword either; he was caught red handed. He wasn't the first nor the last racer to push the rule book envelope.

    • @israelmathes6268
      @israelmathes6268 4 дня назад

      @@joneskendrick2084 go back and watch the race. Petty was struggling until they put the left sides on. You can have 1000hp but if the car will not handle you are not going anywhere.

    • @joneskendrick2084
      @joneskendrick2084 2 дня назад

      @@israelmathes6268 I stated left side tires might help over a limited number of laps. (Other conditions also play a part … track temp, chassis setup, etc) Reality is horsepower wins every time under all conditions… handling, unless really, really bad on a 1.5 mile oval has a minimal impact. Plus Petty “struggling” could easily be an intentional head fake. I witnessed it many times.

  • @davidphillips3953
    @davidphillips3953 26 дней назад +5

    Do the complete inspection before the race and quarantine the car till the start. No inspection after, if you got something past you got it past.

  • @peterparsons7141
    @peterparsons7141 День назад

    Pre race inspection, if you pass, you can keep the win. Then add a points penalty to the winner.
    Continued infractions, increased season penalty.

  • @bluegizmo1983
    @bluegizmo1983 21 день назад +2

    Real fans know, "If you're not cheating, you're not racing!"

  • @141runn
    @141runn 24 дня назад +4

    he made it to 200 because in the early days he was the only driver that could afford to start every race.

  • @briantaylor9285
    @briantaylor9285 26 дней назад +2

    Richard Petty: *laughs like Muttley* 😁

  • @clydesummers394
    @clydesummers394 19 дней назад

    I was at that race and remember Petty just shoot by Waltrip then we heard about the illegal engine.

  • @TheTruth-on5zx
    @TheTruth-on5zx 27 дней назад +4

    If ya ain't cheatin ya ain't eatin

  • @jaycensored
    @jaycensored 6 дней назад

    Richard Petty also went winless 1978.

  • @kh40yr
    @kh40yr 26 дней назад +2

    Back when the cheaters were fogging the outside of the air filter with Nos. DW was one of those nitrous guys. A kidney shaped nitrous bottle, tucked inside the firesuit so it stayed warm against the body and kept pressure up.
    A driver always sweats, and looses weight during a race. Who's to say??.

  • @hendo337
    @hendo337 26 дней назад +1

    The bore and stroke of that engine must have been 4.170" a 0.045" over Bowtie Block and a 3.48" stroke for 381ci basically a 377 with another 0.015" over.

  • @watajob
    @watajob 27 дней назад +16

    If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'!

  • @landonsewell81
    @landonsewell81 24 дня назад

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Pettys car he won his 200th win had an oversized engine. Because after that win, Richard Petty was never really a threat at anymore races until he retired

  • @MrTheHillfolk
    @MrTheHillfolk 12 дней назад

    I was a little kid but i remember his Stp son of a gun protectant commercials.
    SHOOT THE TARS!!
    SHOOT THE DASH!!

  • @imtheonevanhalen1557
    @imtheonevanhalen1557 19 дней назад

    "It ain't cheatin' if you don't check it.....wax. what wax?"

  • @Jeffhoneck
    @Jeffhoneck 24 дня назад +2

    Innovation was epic in the old days, not like the cookie cutter racing now

  • @55Reever
    @55Reever 13 дней назад +1

    The real rub was Richard Petty saying he had no knowledge of what was happening. Now there are people that worked in that shop say, that car wasn't washed without Richard Petty knowing.

    • @dwc4343
      @dwc4343 11 дней назад

      He did not know that Maurice built the engine too big on purpose. That's why he fired him for staining their reputation.

  • @crazytrain639
    @crazytrain639 22 дня назад +4

    Cheating is a mainstay in Nascar.
    They all have talked about how they cheated in different ways.
    All major teams are trying to cheat and not get caught. Waltrip admitted to using lead shot to increase pre race weight checks. Earnhardt and Jr. also cheated. Its no surprise, it is part of the game. "Legal" is probably rare, and odds are the winners are almost never innocent.

    • @danharold3087
      @danharold3087 21 день назад

      To some degree cheating has always been part of the sport. Perhaps they need to formalize cheating since it is part of the fun. Engines that pass pre race inspection are good to run. Unless flagged during the race the car that crosses the line first wins.
      It is that or move closer and closer to IROC.

  • @VolReed
    @VolReed 25 дней назад +2

    Back then it was a feat just to have an engine that could finish the race

  • @JAAB9296
    @JAAB9296 27 дней назад +4

    Most teams cheated in one way or the other, especially during qualifying.

  • @runrau9275
    @runrau9275 13 дней назад

    OK, So First place and second place battling it out for second place...Got it, the good old days of NASCAR.

  • @vicdahn2037
    @vicdahn2037 21 день назад +1

    I don't believe the wax theory it would either be inconsistent or low. Which would also raise eyebrows. I believe they just had one small cylinder. And made it the easiest one to get to to test. You could easily balance that out.

    • @joneskendrick2084
      @joneskendrick2084 4 дня назад

      At first they did as state..... and it worked till 1973 Charlotte race. The wax idea is better because when NASCAR started checking random cylinders it would make ALL of them seem identical. The was would prolly evaporate as soon as the engine was cranked. Pretty slick!

  • @michaelraddish7898
    @michaelraddish7898 23 дня назад +1

    Petty had a stroker motor 383 inches

  • @seanklingensmith7713
    @seanklingensmith7713 25 дней назад +2

    Some say he only has 199 wins!? Ha! Not the first time the King won with an illegal car. I've heard stories about how he got good fuel milage back in the day, and it didn't involve "lifting early" for the turns!

  • @Pontiac428
    @Pontiac428 26 дней назад +1

    David Pearson had half as many but never cheated. 😊

  • @Amy-r2l
    @Amy-r2l 16 дней назад

    I can’t believe they got a hissy fit about tires

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers День назад

    Back when nascar was real. Now the cars all look the same and are nothing stock. Nascar died with Dale

  • @MrSpikebender
    @MrSpikebender 17 дней назад

    That's why I watch WRC.

  • @Plombo_5
    @Plombo_5 27 дней назад

    Great stuff

  • @jodykeepers8376
    @jodykeepers8376 13 дней назад

    KING 43

  • @gregrowe1168
    @gregrowe1168 21 день назад +3

    I like how everyone literally ignores how Petty just literally rode around for the last 8 years of his career. After the win in 1984, he never won another race. Anyone else would have been heavily encouraged to retire but the sponsors loved Petty so much I guess they let him be basically Danica Patrick from 1985-1992.

    • @henrylicious
      @henrylicious 21 день назад +1

      Unlike Danica Patrick he had a great racing legacy. Like Patrick, he was extremely marketable.

    • @topcat43truffles15
      @topcat43truffles15 18 дней назад +1

      Richard Petty was one of the most popular drivers of his time and even if he never won another race in those eight years you mentioned. How many paying people came to those races specifically to support Richard. I know the 20 or so races I attended I was there to see Richard. My last NASCAR race I attended was the Coke 600 during his final season. What made it really special to me was it was also the only race I ever saw Dale win. A passing of the torch for me. Having seen 2 of the greatest drivers actually win a race I was at is a memory I’ll treasure always.

    • @gregrowe1168
      @gregrowe1168 17 дней назад

      @@topcat43truffles15 Guys back then tended to race longer too. Petty obviously won a lot of races but the money wasn’t nearly what it is now. Most good drivers will retire in their early 40s now because they don’t need to keep racing for the money. Petty was 55 when he retired. Mark Martin kept hanging on at the end of his career too. He kept chasing that elusive title that was never to be. Even joining the evil empire at Hendrick for a few seasons. And gave a good showing despite being in his 50s at the time. But he was never going to win a title there, Jimmie was their pick and no way they would let an outsider outperform him.

    • @topcat43truffles15
      @topcat43truffles15 17 дней назад +1

      @@gregrowe1168
      Can’t argue with any of your points. I’d say some of todays drivers make more in one year than drivers like Richard made in their lifetimes.
      I might not follow NASCAR as religiously as I did back in the day but still occasionally watch a couple of races.
      It was nice to see the Woods Brothers team get their 100th win as well as Harrison’s first. Every once in a while the fates seem to lend a hand to make something special happen. Mark Martin is probably the greatest driver to never win that elusive Championship.
      These days I’m usually rooting for Chase to win, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Kyle win a couple more for Childress.
      It’s been a long ride for me starting with Pete Hamilton’s Superbird win in Daytona all those decades ago. Now we’re seeing another generation of young pups starting to make their mark. Been a pleasure conversing with you Greg. All the best, Tom 👍🏻🍻😎

    • @gregrowe1168
      @gregrowe1168 17 дней назад

      @@topcat43truffles15 I'm just not sure Kyle made the right choice to go with Childress but he clearly got pushed out the door at Gibbs so Ty could have a ride. At least he looks more competitive recently. The team just isn't that strong anymore. In a few years, all these great drivers will be gone, and the young guys will be all that's left. Carl Edwards is the one that still puzzles me. Left in his prime and didn't make it all the way to the top. If he never comes back, his career will forever be a what if.

  • @BobButrick-jm3mf
    @BobButrick-jm3mf 26 дней назад

    Seems like only solution is to make sure each car is legal before the races😮

  • @rogermatheny5512
    @rogermatheny5512 22 дня назад

    Ingenious!!!

  • @chrisjarvis4449
    @chrisjarvis4449 21 день назад

    if you ain't cheating you ain't trying ! when it comes to racing !

  • @VashStarwind
    @VashStarwind 19 дней назад

    How about this, no limits, no regulations, fastest car wins. Now that would be fun to watch... haha

    • @Colt-tf6xf
      @Colt-tf6xf День назад

      The Chevys would be on the way to the next race before the Fords got done, and if MOPAR was allowed in they would be there qualifying.

  • @g-mang-man7924
    @g-mang-man7924 26 дней назад +2

    Why do you think Kyle Busch won his first championship after being out for 8 weeks. The " Dale Jr" rule. Win and in the chase. It came back and bit NASCAR in the ass because Kyle took of advantage of the rule first. Not Jr. Who is why NASCAR added the rule.

  • @muddywater6856
    @muddywater6856 17 дней назад

    You never hear an announcer say anymore ......
    "That car, he's found something:

  • @markrenton1093
    @markrenton1093 22 дня назад +1

    Sounds like Smokey Yunick.

  • @infosneakr
    @infosneakr 19 дней назад

    This cars were cool at the time

  • @justanotheroglesby2847
    @justanotheroglesby2847 21 день назад +1

    The engine was a no no. The tires I feel is a race move and shouldn’t be against the rules.

  • @VanoyBrown
    @VanoyBrown 24 дня назад

    what engine-crank combo was that ? was that a 350 bored over with a 400 crank or a 400 with a 350 crank ? Im not too tech savvy on this

  • @jonthecomposer
    @jonthecomposer 22 дня назад

    I'm not one for cheating, however I do love hearing about these old NASCAR cheats. There's just so much innovation going on that it's not funny. Smokey was the king of "nonstandard rule interpretation," but here, the wax on the valves bit was just genius. Almost as good as Toyota's rally Celica GT-4 turbo restrictor bypass cheat.

  • @johnbrooks9523
    @johnbrooks9523 22 дня назад +1

    Geez. Who would have thought some of the potatos in potato racing had grubs in them?

  • @cindysue5474
    @cindysue5474 20 дней назад

    I remember when Richard was fined a large amount for jet fuel in the tank. So I guess that STP fuel treatment with jet fuel you could buy at the parts store must have worked.

    • @El_Peto
      @El_Peto 2 дня назад

      Jet A is basically diesel

  • @CashisKingtrucking
    @CashisKingtrucking 20 дней назад

    Happens in every sport

  • @michaela.2933
    @michaela.2933 13 дней назад

    That’s when nascar was for real, it sucks now

  • @GS-cy8iy
    @GS-cy8iy 11 дней назад

    If you ain't cheating you ain't trying!

  • @finscreenname
    @finscreenname 26 дней назад +2

    Petty probably has less wins then the 199 wins. Listen to Dale Jr's download, they were all cheating back then.

  • @Badassinblack51
    @Badassinblack51 27 дней назад +5

    Had Darrell Waltrip’s team not left the track in a hurry…3rd place would’ve been the winner
    We wouldn’t be talking about Richard Petty’s 200 wins

    • @roymcdre9180
      @roymcdre9180 27 дней назад +6

      Based on the dale jr download, they wouldve had to go back to 27th to find a legal car

  • @stickman-1
    @stickman-1 4 дня назад

    In NHRA if you fail weight, fuel, or engine size you are kicked out on the spot. Why would any other racing organization be any different?

  • @davidsanders451
    @davidsanders451 21 день назад

    🎉 hell yeah people cheated I was 12 years old and participated in helping, Rick Newsom God rest his soul. I gave up my old Red Hoppity Horse, that I had actually outgrown. So it could be put in the gas tank then popped later so that more fuel could be added. My dad would have me on the floor with the car hand me drill riddle out holes in the frame to lighten it up.😅 I actually have great memories of hanging out with my dad and all those crazy ass drivers at night in the pits.

  • @alanmize5627
    @alanmize5627 27 дней назад +6

    nascar is like the pile behind the stable Horseshit

  • @JoeBribem
    @JoeBribem 22 дня назад

    Puts his 200 wins under scrutiny if you ask me.

  • @Dethmegadeth
    @Dethmegadeth 20 дней назад

    Petty said they had one oversized cylinder. 😊 I think they had 2 because math😂

  • @lordterra1377
    @lordterra1377 22 дня назад +1

    Racing was better back then, no restricter plates. Racing is so boring now.

  • @Pointlesshandle48
    @Pointlesshandle48 19 дней назад

    If you ain’t cheatin you ain’t tryin

  • @johnhiggs325
    @johnhiggs325 22 дня назад

    Teams purposely putting illegal cars on the track takes away from everyone’s experience. When considered within the historical context of “stock car” racing, though, it’s to be expected. The sport was born from the minds of rule breakers, mavericks that made their living by dodging authority. NASCAR as a governing body is that authority today.

  • @dannypowers4995
    @dannypowers4995 27 дней назад +7

    Its only cheating if you get caught. We have all seen the cheating stories here on RUclips. 😊

  • @MTA96_69
    @MTA96_69 22 дня назад

    “if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying”- someone probably

  • @StanleyCarr17
    @StanleyCarr17 6 дней назад

    Kyle busch has 207. 😅 rp has 198 the 200 win was illegal and the 198 at Charlotte was as well.

  • @joshriles84
    @joshriles84 18 дней назад +1

    I don't understand why anyone watches Nascar anymore

    • @stephenwilliamson1522
      @stephenwilliamson1522 6 дней назад

      I agree back in 1970. It was real race with real stock cars. There’s no such thing as a stock car now they’re all you cannot determine which is which how many people seen a Honda with a V8 or Toyota V8 to do is put a body on a frame that someone else has built an engine that’s built by somebody else, like a damn taxi race

  • @VashStarwind
    @VashStarwind 19 дней назад

    You gotta admit, that putting wax in the valves to artificially lower the cubic inches test is pretty dang smart.. haha

  • @mitchf1508
    @mitchf1508 9 дней назад

    I think that's when they also started inspecting the top 3 cars as well? NASCAR is just an entertainment venue, just like WWF or whatever that fake wresting thing is.. I've been a NASCAR fan since the mid 70's, but living in So Cal and just a kid, never got the chance to go to an actual race, but love the drama of it all back then and even today...
    Now, you just wreck the cars in front of you to win... ha, ha... I think what I liked about the "old days" is that it was all about "cheating" in that you read the rules, take what you got and then see what you can get away with.. How about Michael Waltrip's crew chief putting some stuff in the intake manifold that would increase the octane or whatever, but be burned off by the time it was inspected for his qualifying run?
    I say let 'em keep the win, but not count toward anything.. I love that they let Austin Dillion was able to keep the 'win', but NASCAR didn't let him get into the "playoffs"... That was the right call and right for the times..

  • @liontone
    @liontone 22 дня назад

    “If you ain’t cheatin, you ain’t racin!”

  • @user-re6yo7tj5s
    @user-re6yo7tj5s 21 день назад

    These videos always beg the question,how many tricks,scams,devices,cheats etc. went unnoticed over the years?

  • @jeremystory6981
    @jeremystory6981 21 день назад

    I don't think old D.W would do it😅😅😅 ,,,,and Petty ,,,,U just don't mess with the Petty,,,

  • @vinewood8295
    @vinewood8295 25 дней назад

    If you could go back & find out how many of Petty's wins were victories in which they bent the rule book...

  • @tomfiorito9912
    @tomfiorito9912 26 дней назад +2

    Everyone cheated back then, in some way or another, I used to watch the races all the time with my father, now nascar has gone Woke, haven’t watched watched a race in years,

  • @CC-jj7ne
    @CC-jj7ne 19 дней назад

    If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying!!!! 😂