i'm a brazilian cowboy, on my family's ranch, and seeing your videos, and learning with then , i can say, your relationship with the horses it's incredible. Great Content. Congrats Boys!
Came across your video & I'm definitely saving this content in my horse training Playlist. I didn't see you once abuse the horse & you worked with the horse. Premium content in my eye's
**Long Training Related Question!** this is a very detailed story/question because the owner is not a very good help when it comes to retraining his horses. (he don't care what I do with em) To start, I ride this horse on a property that only has a pasture for the horses to do whatever they want; after that, it is long open pasture, trails, and unfinished trails that I tend to explore on a good unattended day. (Unattended as in the owner isn't riding with me and I get bold) I used to take riding lessons for 2 years, even making it to advanced riding my 2nd year I'm not sure what to do as a minor riding my family members horse all alone. I don't think I can train him with only 2 years of riding under my belt since all I was taught to do was to ride complicated horses in an arena and through rugged trails (but I was guided by an instructor what to do with the horses when they tested me). After that I have been left to ride a family members herd of 3 horses (he's too old to ride em alone and they are just living a fat filling life 24/7): 1 going blind horse, 1 super old horse that trips over himself, and 1 stubborn jerk. obviously, I am riding the stubborn horse: his names Chance. These horses are pretty herd bound and as someone who rides these horses mainly solo, (sometimes the owner joins on the going blind horse) I find myself in trouble many times with chance. When leaving the tacking area he will fight me to turn around, especially when I try to get him into a trot--he'll try to turn around like I'm stupid and I have to keep going in circles before he lets me go the way I want (usually at a walk since he only departs the barn at a walk with no fight) I've tried watching horse training videos but when I try to exert the knowledge, I am not confident I am doing it correctly and safely. I tried to do something as simple as teaching him to loosen his head: it did not work. he spun in circles and absolutely did not give either of his head sides. God forbid I ride him inside his pasture with his 2 herd mates, Chance will suddenly get a boost of testosterone and he'll test me more, buck more, and purposefully not cooperate with letting me step up even more than usual. When I am heading home, he can walk fine--but if I want him to trot he goes straight to canter trying to get home because "all of a sudden" he is a go-horse. He has bucked me in the past when I tried to get him to canter, thing is, he is not an easy ride and because I know he bucks when he goes fast, I have developed a habit of holding one hand on the horn. (also because the stirrups are rusted in 2 different lengths and its awkward trot and cantering on him. (not like I can afford my own tack so I don't got a choice) Some days this horse will fight me on going on the simplest trail, other times he has let me take him to regrettably sketchy places where I had to get off him and lead him back home as he would never do it with me on top of him (atleast he trusts me to get him out of such situations now right?) Not to mention getting on this horse sucks on the trail first, I have to find an elevated place because I am not athletic enough to reach up there with jeans of all things on--Then I have to fight the battle of him moving forward or his but not close enough for me to get on confidently as he will walk as soon as he feels pressure on the stirrup Another weird thing, is this horse seems to love being ridden once he gets out! his tail will flair up like he's some fancy breed horse and he will enjoy the scenery! But getting to that chill is such a tedious process. How do I manage this situation?
Thanks for the question. Happy to trouble shoot more and you can email us at stonefieldranchproductions@gmail.com I’ll even jump on the phone if you’d like. But I’ll throw a couple of things out here. The first thing I would say is get good at saying, “No” in life. It doesn’t sound like you enjoy working with these horses and I probably wouldn’t either. Unless you owe this family member a favor, I probably wouldn’t waste my time working with them. You only get so much time in this world of ours and there are too many good horses to ride bad ones-I would classify older horses that never got broke as rarely worth the time. I’ve ridden a lot of shitty horses (bad temperaments, spoiled and ignorant, over-fed and underworked, somebody else created bad habits, etc.) over the years and I can’t say that any of them have been worth it. Especially when you’re young and learning you’re much better off climbing on something you can learn from-something broke (or trained for people that don’t like the b-word). But I like to begin with the end in mind. “What does this horse need to be able to do?” “Do they have the mind and ability to do it or am I asking too much of them?” “Will the owner of this horse continue working with them when I stop or are they destined to be a pasture pet?” (Hint: if they’re just going to be a pasture pet, it’s not worth the time). If you’re set on fixing this horse ping me via email and we can troubleshoot. But from what I’m gathering you’re using the few times Chance walks a straight line down a trail to justify a lot of misery for yourself.
@ My email seems to keep rejecting my attempts to reach you so I’ll have to answer through this comment. If you can’t continue this chat over comments then I completely understand! To respond to your comment, I see what you mean by knowing when to say no to shitty horses, but as someone who can't afford lessons anymore nor do I have the capability to get my own horse, I take the opportunity that the owner gave me to ride Chance. But fact is, those horses aren't worked from weeks to months as I'm the only one who rides with them. Since I'm a high schooler with jobs it's hard to find time during the school year, plus I have to call ahead before going to the property since the owner and my parents want to make sure there is an adult on standby when I ride because I usually ride alone. (Sometimes the owner joins me on the mostly blind horse) And I know I said many of the negatives about riding Chance and how he never seems to give in, but even so I do still love riding! Especially when the owner isn't with me and I can ride in more explorative ways. Even if I'm riding on a horse that will do the sneakiest things to keep me off his back (walking into/under trees or walking soon as I'm on the stirrup, bucking, etc) The reason I asked for your help or even tips is because I am a first-generation rider with only 2 years of experience in the horse world. And as the first person my family has seen who has inspirations to join ranches and intern once I graduate high school, many people in my family think I should go to college so I am not getting much help from them as far as pursuing this career/lifestyle. Best, An Aspiring rider.
Χαίρομαι πραγματικά που κοιτάζω αυτό το βίντεο και σας ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ απλά δεν γνωρίζω αγγλικά αν σας είναι εύκολο να τα γυρίζεται και στα ελληνικά
I don't know how I landed here, I don't even ride (anymore), but I am definitely gonna look into getting one of those coats. Hope they ship international...
Please do. Damn good group of dudes that run Master Supply. The kind of folks we love to support. They’re based in Toronto and do ship internationally!
do you think a twisted snaffle is a good bit for a younger horse that is just starting, I had been told they were more of an aggressive bit, but my horse really like to push the reigns and yes with his head a lot so I was just wondering maybe I should try one.
I never start one in a twisted wire snaffle. Always a smooth snaffle. But this horse broke into a runaway a couple of times and thought seriously about running himself through a fence so I ran the twisted wire snaffle and it softened him up and he didn’t try it again. Again never my first choice but mine and my horses safety come first and sometimes that means a more aggressive bit until they really understand yielding to that pressure. Then I will try to move them back into a smooth snaffle.
I grew up in a horse boarding stable and have seen every kind of horse owner there is. I come across you video and heard you mention, “Clinton Anderson 101”, so I had to check him out. With seconds I didn’t like him or how he treated the horse so I looked at another and same. That is not a horse trainer anyone should want to follow. He is mean to the animals and because he is who you follow I lm not interested in looking at your videos. May I suggest someone who is actually good and worth watching for anyone wanting to gain knowledge in horsemanship? Look at Ryan Rose, he is one to follow and learn from!
I follow a lot of horse trainers including Ryan Rose, Buck Brannaman, Clinton Anderson, Martin Black, and many others. They all bring something to the table. The beauty of this craft is there are many good examples to learn from.
I don't know, I've never seen Clinton Anderson abuse any horse 🤷♂️. I do watch other horse trainer's . I also practice a lot of Clinton Anderson's trainings though. Quick clear, not abusive, with anything my horse & i are trying to accomplish together.
i'm a brazilian cowboy, on my family's ranch, and seeing your videos, and learning with then , i can say, your relationship with the horses it's incredible. Great Content. Congrats Boys!
I appreciate your approach and style, thanks for sharing!!
Always appreciate your participation on the channel Mule Skinner.
Great ride. I really enjoyed sitting in my 70 degree home watching you work.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you. 🙏
Very impressive work i like your content , from morocco 🇲🇦 ❤
Came across your video & I'm definitely saving this content in my horse training Playlist. I didn't see you once abuse the horse & you worked with the horse. Premium content in my eye's
Thank you! 🙏
**Long Training Related Question!** this is a very detailed story/question because the owner is not a very good help when it comes to retraining his horses. (he don't care what I do with em)
To start, I ride this horse on a property that only has a pasture for the horses to do whatever they want; after that, it is long open pasture, trails, and unfinished trails that I tend to explore on a good unattended day. (Unattended as in the owner isn't riding with me and I get bold)
I used to take riding lessons for 2 years, even making it to advanced riding my 2nd year I'm not sure what to do as a minor riding my family members horse all alone. I don't think I can train him with only 2 years of riding under my belt since all I was taught to do was to ride complicated horses in an arena and through rugged trails (but I was guided by an instructor what to do with the horses when they tested me). After that I have been left to ride a family members herd of 3 horses (he's too old to ride em alone and they are just living a fat filling life 24/7): 1 going blind horse, 1 super old horse that trips over himself, and 1 stubborn jerk. obviously, I am riding the stubborn horse: his names Chance.
These horses are pretty herd bound and as someone who rides these horses mainly solo, (sometimes the owner joins on the going blind horse) I find myself in trouble many times with chance. When leaving the tacking area he will fight me to turn around, especially when I try to get him into a trot--he'll try to turn around like I'm stupid and I have to keep going in circles before he lets me go the way I want (usually at a walk since he only departs the barn at a walk with no fight)
I've tried watching horse training videos but when I try to exert the knowledge, I am not confident I am doing it correctly and safely. I tried to do something as simple as teaching him to loosen his head: it did not work. he spun in circles and absolutely did not give either of his head sides. God forbid I ride him inside his pasture with his 2 herd mates, Chance will suddenly get a boost of testosterone and he'll test me more, buck more, and purposefully not cooperate with letting me step up even more than usual. When I am heading home, he can walk fine--but if I want him to trot he goes straight to canter trying to get home because "all of a sudden" he is a go-horse. He has bucked me in the past when I tried to get him to canter, thing is, he is not an easy ride and because I know he bucks when he goes fast, I have developed a habit of holding one hand on the horn. (also because the stirrups are rusted in 2 different lengths and its awkward trot and cantering on him. (not like I can afford my own tack so I don't got a choice)
Some days this horse will fight me on going on the simplest trail, other times he has let me take him to regrettably sketchy places where I had to get off him and lead him back home as he would never do it with me on top of him (atleast he trusts me to get him out of such situations now right?) Not to mention getting on this horse sucks on the trail first, I have to find an elevated place because I am not athletic enough to reach up there with jeans of all things on--Then I have to fight the battle of him moving forward or his but not close enough for me to get on confidently as he will walk as soon as he feels pressure on the stirrup
Another weird thing, is this horse seems to love being ridden once he gets out! his tail will flair up like he's some fancy breed horse and he will enjoy the scenery! But getting to that chill is such a tedious process.
How do I manage this situation?
Thanks for the question. Happy to trouble shoot more and you can email us at stonefieldranchproductions@gmail.com
I’ll even jump on the phone if you’d like.
But I’ll throw a couple of things out here. The first thing I would say is get good at saying, “No” in life. It doesn’t sound like you enjoy working with these horses and I probably wouldn’t either. Unless you owe this family member a favor, I probably wouldn’t waste my time working with them. You only get so much time in this world of ours and there are too many good horses to ride bad ones-I would classify older horses that never got broke as rarely worth the time.
I’ve ridden a lot of shitty horses (bad temperaments, spoiled and ignorant, over-fed and underworked, somebody else created bad habits, etc.) over the years and I can’t say that any of them have been worth it. Especially when you’re young and learning you’re much better off climbing on something you can learn from-something broke (or trained for people that don’t like the b-word). But I like to begin with the end in mind. “What does this horse need to be able to do?” “Do they have the mind and ability to do it or am I asking too much of them?” “Will the owner of this horse continue working with them when I stop or are they destined to be a pasture pet?” (Hint: if they’re just going to be a pasture pet, it’s not worth the time).
If you’re set on fixing this horse ping me via email and we can troubleshoot. But from what I’m gathering you’re using the few times Chance walks a straight line down a trail to justify a lot of misery for yourself.
@ My email seems to keep rejecting my attempts to reach you so I’ll have to answer through this comment. If you can’t continue this chat over comments then I completely understand!
To respond to your comment, I see what you mean by knowing when to say no to shitty horses, but as someone who can't afford lessons anymore nor do I have the capability to get my own horse, I take the opportunity that the owner gave me to ride Chance. But fact is, those horses aren't worked from weeks to months as I'm the only one who rides with them. Since I'm a high schooler with jobs it's hard to find time during the school year, plus I have to call ahead before going to the property since the owner and my parents want to make sure there is an adult on standby when I ride because I usually ride alone. (Sometimes the owner joins me on the mostly blind horse)
And I know I said many of the negatives about riding Chance and how he never seems to give in, but even so I do still love riding! Especially when the owner isn't with me and I can ride in more explorative ways. Even if I'm riding on a horse that will do the sneakiest things to keep me off his back (walking into/under trees or walking soon as I'm on the stirrup, bucking, etc)
The reason I asked for your help or even tips is because I am a first-generation rider with only 2 years of experience in the horse world. And as the first person my family has seen who has inspirations to join ranches and intern once I graduate high school, many people in my family think I should go to college so I am not getting much help from them as far as pursuing this career/lifestyle.
Best,
An Aspiring rider.
Our saying was walk the first mile out
Walk the last mile back
So generally go easy on the start😊
really twisted snafl on green horse and tied rains :)
Χαίρομαι πραγματικά που κοιτάζω αυτό το βίντεο και σας ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ απλά δεν γνωρίζω αγγλικά αν σας είναι εύκολο να τα γυρίζεται και στα ελληνικά
I don't know how I landed here, I don't even ride (anymore), but I am definitely gonna look into getting one of those coats. Hope they ship international...
Please do. Damn good group of dudes that run Master Supply. The kind of folks we love to support. They’re based in Toronto and do ship internationally!
@@StonefieldranchWell that just seals the deal cos I'm already in south Ontario just outside Toronto!
🤣
I just looked up that jacket & it's definitely quality. I have the website saved, for when I have some extra money 😂
do you think a twisted snaffle is a good bit for a younger horse that is just starting, I had been told they were more of an aggressive bit, but my horse really like to push the reigns and yes with his head a lot so I was just wondering maybe I should try one.
I never start one in a twisted wire snaffle. Always a smooth snaffle. But this horse broke into a runaway a couple of times and thought seriously about running himself through a fence so I ran the twisted wire snaffle and it softened him up and he didn’t try it again. Again never my first choice but mine and my horses safety come first and sometimes that means a more aggressive bit until they really understand yielding to that pressure. Then I will try to move them back into a smooth snaffle.
I’m 6’2 and you look tall. What size is your jacket?
About the same size as you. This jacket was a 2XL. They run small at Master Supply.
if he is truly only 3 he is going to be a tall horse at 5-6
I grew up in a horse boarding stable and have seen every kind of horse owner there is. I come across you video and heard you mention, “Clinton Anderson 101”, so I had to check him out. With seconds I didn’t like him or how he treated the horse so I looked at another and same. That is not a horse trainer anyone should want to follow. He is mean to the animals and because he is who you follow I lm not interested in looking at your videos. May I suggest someone who is actually good and worth watching for anyone wanting to gain knowledge in horsemanship? Look at Ryan Rose, he is one to follow and learn from!
I follow a lot of horse trainers including Ryan Rose, Buck Brannaman, Clinton Anderson, Martin Black, and many others. They all bring something to the table. The beauty of this craft is there are many good examples to learn from.
You can get a little something from everyone. Obviously this gentleman is not Clinton Anderson...you will miss out by not watching.
I don't know, I've never seen Clinton Anderson abuse any horse 🤷♂️. I do watch other horse trainer's . I also practice a lot of Clinton Anderson's trainings though. Quick clear, not abusive, with anything my horse & i are trying to accomplish together.