As promised, here are some links to extra glee content! Glee Live! The 2010 Concert Link: ruclips.net/video/S0LnAjyhlKs/видео.html Glee Deleted Songs and Scenes Playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLFXRFryzLjTqoDt3gzSYcMiOoAvxSm2JE&si=yfqNh708JweuumjZ
I have no idea how the algorithm found me this video but an 11 hour video of a show I have a brief awarness of... count me in. Glad I'm here before this blows up :)
2 days later, still only 9 hours in and seeing the views shoot up from 200 to 6000 warms my heart. This video is so well crafted you deserve even more!
Quinton reviews was right: no matter the minute time, people will call your video length by the hour (this video is 11 hours, 59 minutes, 57 seconds) lol /positive Agree though, I'm ready to watch this whole thing
The Irish kid who transferred and was bullied so much he sang a Kermit song and left within a week span still haunts me til this day. I actually loved his character and really hated how bullied he was over an accent.
5:32:08 “I don’t know what else Finn could have done” Not force on a kiss on someone for a start. That is what happened. He stood in front of a woman - his coworker - who he has no reason to think would want to be kissed by him, and grabs and kisses her without consent and she looks terrified and horrified after. If Emma does feel guilty, as you suggest, that is common to victims and does not reflect any actual guilt. It did not fix the situation, it just shifted her focus from “oh no, I’m stressed about wedding planning” to “oh no, I’ve been grabbed and kissed against my will”, hence her staring at him in horrified shock. It really ticked me off that Will was mad at some king of bro code violation and not about the fact that his wife had been assaulted by someone everyone trusted to not do that. I do think Will was to blame for a lot of boundaries being weird with the kids, but that in no way excuses assault. A school should be able to hire a young adult without that young adult assaulting his coworker. The whole plot line was gross and weird and I don’t know why it, like many others was written. Given you called out some earlier consent issues, I’m thinking this was just lost in how huge this project was. There was also a moment with April Rhoades where I believe she’s implied to have done some inappropriate stuff in the shower with Puck I wanted to mention. It was only a visual thing, so I totally understand missing it or cutting it for time, but given it’s the really horrible issue of p*dophila, I wanted to give it a mention. I don’t know why this show has such issue with consent Overall great video. Sorry if this came off unnecessarily critical. I like the video, I just wanted to counter this point given how serious the content was
@11:32 the reason she would have a stop watch(in theory) is that state cheer routines must have a certain amount of time dedicated to dance, stunt, and actual cheer. I can't remember if canonically all of their routines were competition style, but my coach use to use a stop watch to make sure we weren't rushing the chant parts and hitting the exact amount of seconds we needed.
When you talk about the outing of santana, i dont think it's fair to compare finn vs brittany because brittany's outing is played as a "she is stupid" joke, she explaisn she refered to santana not being in the cheerios anymore and only being in glee (playing for the other team), this is literally explained. FInn outing, on the other hand, has absolutely no other meaning, so I don't think it's a matter of intent cause brittany literally wasnt talking about her being a lesbian, while finn did it in the middle of the school, explicitly stating she was a lesbian and that she was in love with brittany. So i dont think it's the same.
@@pablosaezalonso492 agreed. Brittany was NOT even referring to her sexuality. She was talking about a literal team switch and accidentally used an expression that can imply something else. Finn knowingly yelled down a school hallway outing her. He knew it was secret, because he was rubbing the fact she wouldn’t admit it in her face. The only thing that was a mistake was how far the outing went. He didn’t think through Santana’s proximity to political candidate, and I truly don’t believe he meant that kind of harm I also found it weird how much it was mentioned that Santana “assaulted” Finn (to me it’s a FAFO. You out someone out of spite, you might get slapped) yet Finn’s actions are sometimes excused (only sometimes. There were some great accountability moments that made me cheer, like him beating up Rachel’s boyfriend for being a sex worker)
I think RUclips knows me a little too well. A brief twelve-hour video essay? Shut up and take my time. I'm 7 hours in, and I just saw your channel jump from 50 to 150 subs, and the views from 700 to 5,300. I'm happy I'm not the only one who loves this and I'm happy people are showing up to see your incredible work. We can't expect you to do this all the time, but I salute your work, the edits, the numbers. I took me a little while to see you changed your clothes to match the Glee characters.
The in-universe and real world hate the production team had for tina deserves its own 10h analysis, it was Serious for them like my girl couldn't catch a break OR the spotlight Ryan Murphy when I catch you...
I don’t agree with the Santana thing because there is so many times where fin has beat up someone and not got suspended but Santana getting mad that fin outed her is somehow worse. Also I’m going to assume that will tells on her but he has saw fin hit people and Santana hit Quinn but now she is getting suspended?
@@arianna5270yeaaa she kept acting like we all liked her or sum when she was Rachel in real life!!! Ofc she don’t think her getting outted is a big deal
@@applesauce7883 if you out someone, you might get slapped. Finn fucked around and he found out there were actual consequences to his actions - mostly for Santana. He’s lucky she didn’t end up homeless or dead.
@ Finn wasn’t a victim tho since were holding ppl accountable for fake tv standards her saying whatever she said did not compare to him outing her that was putting her in not getting technical or nothing like there both horrible tbh Finn is better in the sense that he isn’t a “ bully” however he wasn’t perfect nd did some stuff that I’d argue is worse
Harry Shum Jr has had a really interesting career after Glee; he went on to star in Shadowhunters as Magnus Bane and became a fan favorite there, he was in other movies like Crazy Rich Asians after that, and, most importantly imo, he was in Everything Everywhere All at Once, which we all know went on to become an award season favorite; I think he is currently in the most recent season of Grey's Anatomy, I'm really happy for all he has done :)
1:39:05 LINCON PARK????? ITS MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE!!! THATS MY GERARD WAY!!! THATS MY BABY BOY!!! I’m totally kidding hahah just thought it’d be funny I swear😭😭😭
00:00 Intro 02:00 Chapter 1: What is Glee? 04:10 Chapter 2: Immaculate Conception 05:34 Chapter 3: The Cast List 09:51 Chapter 4: The Pilot 22:24 Chapter 5: Season 1 01:10:17 Chapter 6: Season 2 02:18:11 Chapter 7: The Glee Concert 02:34:41 Chapter 8: The Glee Project (season one) 02:29:43 Chapter 9: Season 3 04:27:38 Chapter 10: A Cancelled Spin-off 04:29:34 Chapter 11: The Glee Project (season two) 05:00:30 Chapter 12: The New New directions. 05:03:56 Chapter 13: Season 4 05:48:34 Skip to Here 05:59:55 Chapter 14: Season 5a 06:33:54 Chapter 15: Season 5b 06:49:06 Chapter 16: Season 6 07:10:54 Chapter 17: Where are the character now? 07:13:53 Chapter 18: The Songs 07:55:42 Chapter 19: The Fashion 08:09:57 Chapter 20: The Cameos 08:29:08 Chapter 21: The Villains 09:05:50 Chapter 22: The Dating Tree 09:18:53 Chapter 23: Problematic Stuff (in the narrative) 09:31:40 Chapter 24: The Trial of William Schuester 10:05:24 Chapter 25: Stuff they got Wrong! 10:31:35 Chapter 26: A Glee Mystery 10:44:22 Chapter 27: Where are actors now? 10:56:04 Chapter 28: The Glee "Curse" 11:04:03 Chapter 29: Problematic Stuff (in real life) 11:18:41 Chapter 30: Representation
i have watched one whole second of this video but girlie, you are GETTING that subscription because the amount of work here deserves respect and admiration!!!
I think it’s pretty wild to bring up that Puck maybe definitely had sex with Quinn under dubious circumstances at best, then say that he has a right to decide what happens with the baby. Um?? no?? I also think it’s outta pocket to imply that Mercedes and the other glee members were just objectively wrong to not tell Quinn’s secret. that’s not their business. Does Finn deserve to know? Absolutely, but it’s simply not their place especially since, like Mercedes said, there’s a reason Quinn didn’t choose Puck from the jump.
“did ryan just forget about two of his main characters?” yes. ryan does not remember characters exist at all unless they’re immediately relevant to the scene he’s writing. it’s his biggest issue as a writer.
10 hours into the video, love it so far! Just wanted to say in response to your point about La Cucaracha and racism - although Will may not have had malicious intent, that is very much a microaggression and microagressions are a form of racism
Okay but it was definitely inappropriate for Finn to kiss Emma when she was having a panic attack. Even if he was trying to help, that was a weird thing for him to do.
2:51:25 poor Lindsay… she’s actually SOOOO talented. her performance as Ivy in the LA production of bare a pop opera lives rent free in my mind. every time I listen to her singing all grown up I cry.
aaaa, the full performance used to be on RUclips, but it’s no longer there 😭 if u look up “bare: a pop opera” and look through the playlists tho you’ll find most of the songs from that version
Santana does have a dream. She wants to be a famous actress. It’s what she left college and moved to New York. Her landing an acting job on Broadway is the definition of a character following her dream. I do agree she is a bad person, as is Rachel
Santana is worse then Rachel. Santana targeted people to bully and is very vengeful. Rachel did a couple of bad things, but apologized and tried to make amends to them and can be a bit condescending at times. But she is also forgiving,
Lovely video! On the glee being a club or a class I will add that at my high school clubs met during a study hall we had twice a week. So it is feasible that glee is a club that met in the day during a study hall period. Which would also explain why a bell would go off-since the study hall would be bookended by classes
This video is a masterpiece. Glee was such a big part of my life from 2010-2015. What a was a surreal trip down memory lane. Thank you for making me feel seen.
The sudden lore about your high school drama dating experience was not something I was ready for but also wasn’t surprised by having also been a drama kid in high school
I’m only like 2hrs in but so far I think it’s really interesting how you barely mention or discuss every single awful terrible cruel thing Rachel does but have no issue whacking everyone else. While also constantly defending her. Especially with the way you had a whole mini section criticizing Mercedes when even in s1 Rachel was a much worse person. Oh and you gave a very nuanced take on the Finn/Kurt situation but barely gave any mention of Mercedes side in the her and Kurt situation. Again suppper interesting stuff lol
I noticed this too. Finn and Rachel do something actually horrendous every other episode but there was way more criticism for Mercedes (for such minor things in the grand scheme of the show). It felt disproportionate. Not to mention that, whether she was outed before or not, the video excuses Finn from the part he played in outing Santana in season 3, which was way worse
As much as I've been trying to enjoy this video, I definitely agree with this. The amount of times awful actions from characters are ignored because they're characters that she likes is hard to ignore :/
Yeah the way characters like Rachel and Finn get way more consideration for their actions that Santana or Mercedes (both women of color.... how interesting) is kind of infuriating the further into the analysis you get. I get that Santana kind of sucks a lot of the time but so does literally every other character on the show. Also saying that "Well, Brittany IS stupid so Artie calling her that isn't even a big deal!" is craaazy when Santana gets flak for it like 5 seconds later lol. Santana gets so much shit throughout the video for being a bully (which is fair) but Sue (and other characters) are praised as fun villians when they also say horrible shit. Like the gushing about Sam being her favorite character and then BARELY touching on his weird racism feels extremely intentional. You can really tell how much this creator hates Brittana (both as a couple and as individual characters) as well as Klaine and other minor characters to the point of it making her analysis/recaps feel lopsided and biased in a pretty blatant way.
@@ZeelAllan Exactly. Hard not to notice that almost all of the straight white people are “allowed” to commit the worst atrocities on the show and be forgiven, while the non-white people are judged for things that are so minor or not even their fault (half of the rant about Mercedes for instance.) And one of the first things she mentions in the recap of the episodes is how Sandy, who was fired for being inappropriate with a student and sold/gave away his medical marijauna, and bullied children was her favorite character of season 1…
I have incredible respect for the fact that you only have two videos and this is one of them. It’s very well made and so ambitious. You’ve gained a subscriber in me!
In defense of the acoustic Teenage Dream (because it's actually my FAVORITE Blaine performance), the thing that makes it impressive to me is how deeply he emotes throughout it. He is singing through tears, which is never going to sound like the prettiest thing in the world, but it's moving. Darren Criss demanded that they do not autotune him whenever he sang solo, which really makes all of his performances more raw and real. Teenage Dream (acoustic) isn't a flawless vocal performance, but that's why I like it! It puts the acting first in a very emotional scene, and I think that was a good choice.
Thank you for sharing your feelings! I really appreciate hearing different opinions. I agree that Darren gives a really good performance from an acting standpoint. I think it's my theatre bg, but I just have a hard time listening to people cry while singing. Crying is so bad for the health of your voice, and it totally messes up the resonance/phonation/breath support, so it makes this performance less than stellar for me even if the acting is top notch.
@@AnnasEraOfficial If you appreciate hearing differnet opinions, why haven't you responded to any of the comments calling out your clear bias against the women of color in the series?
6:38:51 I believe that Amber Riley asked the writers room to have Mercedes wait. Originally they had written it so that her and Sam did sleep together. I wish I could find the interview where she spoke about it.
I was waiting for you to get to the Props episode before I commented on anything. It was such a missed opportunity for Tina to find passion outside of Glee club. Her style and way with colors would ideally make her an excellent costume designer for the club. If that episode had a redo, I would make Tina discover that she has a real talent for design and fashion, and that can teach the audience that there are other ways to flourish when you aren't feeling seen. She had by far the best fashion sense, and it could have tied back to her previously established self-esteem issues that caused her to fake her stutter to begin with. Heck, them losing Nationals could have been the catalyst for making her think about her future. I thought it was so disrespectful to her character to tie her back to Artie and make her an actress, when she didn't express any interest in that.
FYI: In K-Pop they use the ba ba ba as counts for dance moves/choreo if they are the Dance Leader of the group so that their members can remember the dance moves. Blake Jenner is a psychopath and the shit he did to Melissa on set and irl he should be locked up. He was a Walking Red Flag from the very beginning.
Overall definitely enjoying the video, but not sure why you glossed over so much of The First Time in season 3? You specifically bring up criminal stuff later, and yet no mention of the fake id’s and underage drinking that leads to Blaine trying to pressure Kurt into having sex in a way that I would consider attempted assault at the very least. And then Kurt ends up apologizing to him and they do sleep together at the end of the episode. It always made me feel so icky and honestly felt symptomatic of a larger issue with their relationship that never got better. I know not everything can be included, that just seemed kinda big to leave out. I do appreciate the callout of Rachel being handed everything though. Her still getting into NYADA was so contrived and ridiculous. Plus it really would have been better for her character to have a narrative more like the one Kurt had in season 4. Edit: Would like to add onto the class vs. club debate, my school had clubs meet during the school day once per week. On Wednesdays we had a special club period and all the regular class periods were shortened. Some clubs would meet additionally before or after school as well. Our GSA met during the club period, but we also stayed after school sometimes when working on stuff (like when we tie-dyed/painted shirts to sell for charity). Also I wasn't in drama club, but my best friend was and I know they met during the club period and then met after school for rehearsals when doing a play/musical.
3:40:51 This is an excellent point. It reminds me of my experience as a high school theater kid from rural Ohio whose very white school decided the musical one year was going to be Once on This Island…so, this plotline didn’t even phase me when it aired. 😂
I’m still only halfway through but the constant references to Israel are really something. Interesting to see the normalization of the U.S.’ apartheid settler colony in SWANA in something so mundane. There’s a real effort across US media to reinforce a relationship to its colony.
I absolutely adore these types of videos and I can't thank you enough for the amount of effort that would have gone into making this. This was such a treat the whole way through
2:12:20 as an Ohio resident and barred lawyer I would like to point out that actually it is only illegal if it wasn't purchased or served by their parent or guardian (which it wasn't in that scene). In Ohio a parent can legally give or order you alcohol for consumption. Also first time Minor offenders are likely to just get a deferred sentence and likely community service. Puck on the other hand would probably get a suspended sentence and reportable probation based on the documented criminal history you have shown so far. They would also probably be suspended from the Glee club by the school administration, meaning the show would end right there. The bigger crime is on the adults or store who supplied the alcohol. EDIT: I forgot Puck was already on probation, he would definitely have violated that and would probably serve 21-30 days in a corrections facility.
from the intro alone and the run time i can tell im going to really appreciate this! ❤️ i’ve watched every glee retrospective and or analysis video on this platform! some really great ( i really like HoshOn’s!) but i always find myself longing to add my tidbits of info and feelings especially in moments i feel they miss the point or lack the understanding of how it felt as a fan at that time! glad to see this from a fans perspective covering all aspects of the show! i selfishly wish i could keep the show in the bubble that it was and how i felt about it as a kid/tween who used this show as a major comfort! everything tragic that’s happened (rest in peace cory & naya!) everything that we’ve learned about certain actors makes it hard to go back and watch the show so i love finding these kinds of videos, excited to watch 🥹
10:15:21 one thing i will say is that most schools nowadays have kids sing songs from the show for auditions. it’s something i’ve seen more and more recently in high school theater
So refreshing to have someone actually try to understand Rachel. So many fans resent she was the lead and never see anything but the few bad and yes I mean few bad things she did. She never gets credit for the nice things and the bad things are exaggerated and brought up all the time.
Thank you for calling out their treatment of sex workers in the episode where Finn beats up Rachel’s boyfriend. You’re so right about the real world implications of seeing violence and a rightful reaction to sex work. It’s horrifying and tragic in real life, and not worth the small amount of shipping drama
This video is excellent! I’m halfway through already. I love your takes on all of the different aspects of Glee storylines, director choices, songs, etc. this is quite obviously the work of someone who has a real love for the show and I could tell your passion for this subject! A lot of modern “analysis” videos, especially long ones, tend to be just summaries of the media. You actually dig into a lot of nuances behind this franchise. This is awesome!!
This video is a work of art. You deserve all the success coming your way!! Please keep it up this has been my source of entertainment over the last few days lol
21:11 When I decided to join my school's drama program in my junior year of high school, people started to view me differently because I love to sing and I love musical theater. People already were calling me gay before that, and my joining my school's drama program made it worse, even some of the people in my own shows would say I am gay or bisexual. It has always offered me to this day, and it is one of the reasons why I have such bad social anxiety. I have always wanted to do theater as a kid, but I never had the confidence or didn't have someone to push me into it. The reason why people think I am gay or bisexual is because I act more feminine than masculine. I have always hated the stereotype that I am gay. Even some of my friends today thought I was gay when I first met them! It always irks me when people think I am gay they are very upfront about it. I always hope that as I get older (I am 18) people will stop questioning my sexually and putting that gay label on me for doing something I will always love to do.
This was an insane, Herculean feat of video essayism, and I have spent two and a half days utterly riveted as I made my way through it. Thank you so much for this comprehensive, thoughtful, entertaining dissection of Glee and all things even tangentially related. I can't imagine how much work and effort went into this, and I enjoyed every minute.
You made a side comment mentioning Pretty Little Liars, which was enough for me to humbly suggest a similar video for that show lol. Obviously Mike's Mic covered it well, and I love his PLL videos, but I'd love your take on it since it seems like you spend more time on dissecting character choices :)
You only have 222 subs right now?? I am so blessed by the algorithm, I had been desperate for a super in depth deep dive into a show I only watched the first season of ❤️❤️ thank you!
RUclips knows me so well and my love for video essays on things I have seen and have not seen to show me this video. I'm not far in but I can tell a lot of work and effort went into this! I hope your channel grows more and more.
Almost 5 hours in and the editing for this video is crazy impressive!!!!!! I was shocked seeing you only have one other video. I can't wait to see whatever comes from your channel if you keep making content. This is awesomeeeee
I was at the New Jersey performance where the concert was filmed and it's extra wild how bad the angles they chose were since they filmed at least half of the songs twice just to get additional angles. They really did them dirty
finally have gotten about five hours in. Is it just me or is this really rachel-sympathist coded? She is SO harsh to characters like santana and mercedes and it's kinda bumming. I'll guess I'll see if it gets better
I'm unsure if it's because she feels the general popculture knows Rachel is weird or if there's a bias. Like, she went on for quite some time about Mercedes defending Quinn's baby lie but I don't recall a crack house mention. Rachel sent someone to a trap house bro @@angiemarin622 edit: I should mention maybe some criticism got lost in the edit/mass of video. This is a big fucking video
At 2:40:30 as someone who's worked with a number of different choreographers this is a very common way of teaching choreo. I think I've heard every choreographer for a style that wasn't ballet do the mouth sounds. For a dancer (which he's used to working with) it makes sense. I can see why he's getting so frustrated because he's being forced to work with people who are not professionals but are being expected to pick up choreo like they are. If they wanted dancers, there should have been a dance portion of the initial casting for TGP, and if they were looking to make dancers, they should have had a dance teacher working with the contestants and not a choreographer.
seeing this is crazy with how little views there is so far and seeing how small your channel is, i am extremely inlove with video essays and i am so so excited for the future of this channel and this must have taken forever to put together i am just blown away. my autistic glee special interest ass i going feral right now
As promised, here are some links to extra glee content!
Glee Live! The 2010 Concert Link: ruclips.net/video/S0LnAjyhlKs/видео.html
Glee Deleted Songs and Scenes Playlist:
ruclips.net/p/PLFXRFryzLjTqoDt3gzSYcMiOoAvxSm2JE&si=yfqNh708JweuumjZ
My favorite genre of RUclips video is "A Brief Analysis of" that runs longer than my work day
Waiting for a video that's called "A Super Brief Analysis" that's longer than an actual day
Word. I was going to tell the girl to change her title to "...a Lengthy & Exhaustive Deconstruction."
I have no idea how the algorithm found me this video but an 11 hour video of a show I have a brief awarness of... count me in. Glad I'm here before this blows up :)
here we are
2 days later, still only 9 hours in and seeing the views shoot up from 200 to 6000 warms my heart. This video is so well crafted you deserve even more!
Same 😂😂😂
Surprised this channel is yet to reach the one thousand subscribers.
I really don’t like Glee, but I may watch to appreciate the grind
how did this happen to so many of us.
Quinton reviews was right: no matter the minute time, people will call your video length by the hour (this video is 11 hours, 59 minutes, 57 seconds) lol /positive
Agree though, I'm ready to watch this whole thing
“brief” analysis made me chuckle when I saw the length of this video
The Irish kid who transferred and was bullied so much he sang a Kermit song and left within a week span still haunts me til this day. I actually loved his character and really hated how bullied he was over an accent.
He won the glee project and they didn’t have an idea for his character
“He emailed me like 60 mp3s of him singing and I thought it was Faith Hill” no show has ever had better one-liners than this
out of all the glee analysis videos that i've seen in this platform, this one truly feels like it tackles EVERYTHING related to the show
respectfully, rachel was not in the wrong for getting sandy fired. sure she had other motives but sandy was literally petting the kid at the piano. 😭
literallyyyy lol
People can never accept that Rachel often does things for more than one reason.
5:32:08 “I don’t know what else Finn could have done”
Not force on a kiss on someone for a start. That is what happened. He stood in front of a woman - his coworker - who he has no reason to think would want to be kissed by him, and grabs and kisses her without consent and she looks terrified and horrified after. If Emma does feel guilty, as you suggest, that is common to victims and does not reflect any actual guilt. It did not fix the situation, it just shifted her focus from “oh no, I’m stressed about wedding planning” to “oh no, I’ve been grabbed and kissed against my will”, hence her staring at him in horrified shock. It really ticked me off that Will was mad at some king of bro code violation and not about the fact that his wife had been assaulted by someone everyone trusted to not do that. I do think Will was to blame for a lot of boundaries being weird with the kids, but that in no way excuses assault. A school should be able to hire a young adult without that young adult assaulting his coworker. The whole plot line was gross and weird and I don’t know why it, like many others was written.
Given you called out some earlier consent issues, I’m thinking this was just lost in how huge this project was. There was also a moment with April Rhoades where I believe she’s implied to have done some inappropriate stuff in the shower with Puck I wanted to mention. It was only a visual thing, so I totally understand missing it or cutting it for time, but given it’s the really horrible issue of p*dophila, I wanted to give it a mention. I don’t know why this show has such issue with consent
Overall great video. Sorry if this came off unnecessarily critical. I like the video, I just wanted to counter this point given how serious the content was
thought this was super weird too, particularly when we’ve been talking about bodily violations for a lot of this video re: various kinds of assault
Omg yes! Summed up my thoughts during this perfectly. I was SO confused at these parts
"oh no, I’ve been grabbed and kissed against my will AND I’m still stressed about wedding planning"
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“a brief analysis” and i fell asleep with this on and woke up with the video still playing
@11:32 the reason she would have a stop watch(in theory) is that state cheer routines must have a certain amount of time dedicated to dance, stunt, and actual cheer. I can't remember if canonically all of their routines were competition style, but my coach use to use a stop watch to make sure we weren't rushing the chant parts and hitting the exact amount of seconds we needed.
When you talk about the outing of santana, i dont think it's fair to compare finn vs brittany because brittany's outing is played as a "she is stupid" joke, she explaisn she refered to santana not being in the cheerios anymore and only being in glee (playing for the other team), this is literally explained. FInn outing, on the other hand, has absolutely no other meaning, so I don't think it's a matter of intent cause brittany literally wasnt talking about her being a lesbian, while finn did it in the middle of the school,
explicitly stating she was a lesbian and that she was in love with brittany. So i dont think it's the same.
@@pablosaezalonso492 agreed. Brittany was NOT even referring to her sexuality. She was talking about a literal team switch and accidentally used an expression that can imply something else. Finn knowingly yelled down a school hallway outing her. He knew it was secret, because he was rubbing the fact she wouldn’t admit it in her face. The only thing that was a mistake was how far the outing went. He didn’t think through Santana’s proximity to political candidate, and I truly don’t believe he meant that kind of harm
I also found it weird how much it was mentioned that Santana “assaulted” Finn (to me it’s a FAFO. You out someone out of spite, you might get slapped) yet Finn’s actions are sometimes excused (only sometimes. There were some great accountability moments that made me cheer, like him beating up Rachel’s boyfriend for being a sex worker)
I think RUclips knows me a little too well. A brief twelve-hour video essay? Shut up and take my time. I'm 7 hours in, and I just saw your channel jump from 50 to 150 subs, and the views from 700 to 5,300. I'm happy I'm not the only one who loves this and I'm happy people are showing up to see your incredible work. We can't expect you to do this all the time, but I salute your work, the edits, the numbers. I took me a little while to see you changed your clothes to match the Glee characters.
Love that! I just took it from 222 to 223, subs so glad I found this video. I adore exceedingly long form pop culture/TV deep dives.
This morning I subbed and took it to 275, now it’s at 488! So happy for you!
Started the video at 346 and now she's 700!!
The in-universe and real world hate the production team had for tina deserves its own 10h analysis, it was Serious for them like my girl couldn't catch a break OR the spotlight
Ryan Murphy when I catch you...
i won't let you disrespect New Jersey Rock Band My Chemical Romance like that by calling them Linkin Park twice in a row :o
No, because I'm still thinking about it 😭
THANK YOU
I don’t agree with the Santana thing because there is so many times where fin has beat up someone and not got suspended but Santana getting mad that fin outed her is somehow worse. Also I’m going to assume that will tells on her but he has saw fin hit people and Santana hit Quinn but now she is getting suspended?
She seems to be a bit anti Santana bias… probably because she’s a bit Rachel apologist
@@arianna5270yeaaa she kept acting like we all liked her or sum when she was Rachel in real life!!! Ofc she don’t think her getting outted is a big deal
Santana bullied him so bad
@@applesauce7883 if you out someone, you might get slapped. Finn fucked around and he found out there were actual consequences to his actions - mostly for Santana. He’s lucky she didn’t end up homeless or dead.
@ Finn wasn’t a victim tho since were holding ppl accountable for fake tv standards her saying whatever she said did not compare to him outing her that was putting her in not getting technical or nothing like there both horrible tbh Finn is better in the sense that he isn’t a “ bully” however he wasn’t perfect nd did some stuff that I’d argue is worse
Tons of effort put into this. Absolutely insane watch time. Eleven hours is like a year of editing. Herculean efforts legit
Harry Shum Jr has had a really interesting career after Glee; he went on to star in Shadowhunters as Magnus Bane and became a fan favorite there, he was in other movies like Crazy Rich Asians after that, and, most importantly imo, he was in Everything Everywhere All at Once, which we all know went on to become an award season favorite; I think he is currently in the most recent season of Grey's Anatomy, I'm really happy for all he has done :)
Thank you for adding this. Harry has been doing a lot of great work lately. EEAAO is one of my favorite movies ever
1:39:05 LINCON PARK????? ITS MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE!!! THATS MY GERARD WAY!!! THATS MY BABY BOY!!! I’m totally kidding hahah just thought it’d be funny I swear😭😭😭
00:00 Intro
02:00 Chapter 1: What is Glee?
04:10 Chapter 2: Immaculate Conception
05:34 Chapter 3: The Cast List
09:51 Chapter 4: The Pilot
22:24 Chapter 5: Season 1
01:10:17 Chapter 6: Season 2
02:18:11 Chapter 7: The Glee Concert
02:34:41 Chapter 8: The Glee Project (season one)
02:29:43 Chapter 9: Season 3
04:27:38 Chapter 10: A Cancelled Spin-off
04:29:34 Chapter 11: The Glee Project (season two)
05:00:30 Chapter 12: The New New directions.
05:03:56 Chapter 13: Season 4
05:48:34 Skip to Here
05:59:55 Chapter 14: Season 5a
06:33:54 Chapter 15: Season 5b
06:49:06 Chapter 16: Season 6
07:10:54 Chapter 17: Where are the character now?
07:13:53 Chapter 18: The Songs
07:55:42 Chapter 19: The Fashion
08:09:57 Chapter 20: The Cameos
08:29:08 Chapter 21: The Villains
09:05:50 Chapter 22: The Dating Tree
09:18:53 Chapter 23: Problematic Stuff (in the narrative)
09:31:40 Chapter 24: The Trial of William Schuester
10:05:24 Chapter 25: Stuff they got Wrong!
10:31:35 Chapter 26: A Glee Mystery
10:44:22 Chapter 27: Where are actors now?
10:56:04 Chapter 28: The Glee "Curse"
11:04:03 Chapter 29: Problematic Stuff (in real life)
11:18:41 Chapter 30: Representation
Hello! 5:42:47, I think you may have forgotten to put the time stamp to skip that section in the video? I'd like to skip it potentially :)
@@tinkersdinkersThank you for pointing this out. I just added the time code so people can skip ❤️
having this video pop up when i’m going into a 10 hour shift tonight… chefs kiss. brilliant. thank you
This is exactly the type of content I love and the quality of the editing is great and I hope you keep making more videos.
Thank you so much! This was only the second video I’ve edited, so I’m glad you like it!
i have watched one whole second of this video but girlie, you are GETTING that subscription because the amount of work here deserves respect and admiration!!!
I think it’s pretty wild to bring up that Puck maybe definitely had sex with Quinn under dubious circumstances at best, then say that he has a right to decide what happens with the baby. Um?? no?? I also think it’s outta pocket to imply that Mercedes and the other glee members were just objectively wrong to not tell Quinn’s secret. that’s not their business. Does Finn deserve to know? Absolutely, but it’s simply not their place especially since, like Mercedes said, there’s a reason Quinn didn’t choose Puck from the jump.
agreed. many many bad takes hidden by “it doesn’t work with the plot”
ermmmmm a show doesn’t mean you’re owed a specific plot
This is so beautifully in depth without giving unnecessary or boring information. Keep up the good work!
1:38:19 girl that’s My Chemical Romance
As soon as she said that I had to rewind because like... How dare you?
Literally came to the comments to make sure I wasn't the only one who caught that.
Yeah thank you for saying it
The way I DIED 😭💀
I don’t understand how she made that mistake…twice.
“did ryan just forget about two of his main characters?” yes. ryan does not remember characters exist at all unless they’re immediately relevant to the scene he’s writing. it’s his biggest issue as a writer.
10 hours into the video, love it so far! Just wanted to say in response to your point about La Cucaracha and racism - although Will may not have had malicious intent, that is very much a microaggression and microagressions are a form of racism
Okay but it was definitely inappropriate for Finn to kiss Emma when she was having a panic attack. Even if he was trying to help, that was a weird thing for him to do.
2:51:25 poor Lindsay… she’s actually SOOOO talented. her performance as Ivy in the LA production of bare a pop opera lives rent free in my mind. every time I listen to her singing all grown up I cry.
I could not find this, do you know how I can watch it?
aaaa, the full performance used to be on RUclips, but it’s no longer there 😭 if u look up “bare: a pop opera” and look through the playlists tho you’ll find most of the songs from that version
Fell asleep to this, woke up 8 hours later still to it. God I love video essays
Santana does have a dream. She wants to be a famous actress. It’s what she left college and moved to New York. Her landing an acting job on Broadway is the definition of a character following her dream. I do agree she is a bad person, as is Rachel
Santana is worse then Rachel. Santana targeted people to bully and is very vengeful. Rachel did a couple of bad things, but apologized and tried to make amends to them and can be a bit condescending at times. But she is also forgiving,
Don't agree with a lot of the season 2 takes feels like you give some characters leniency because you can relate to them more
Lovely video!
On the glee being a club or a class I will add that at my high school clubs met during a study hall we had twice a week. So it is feasible that glee is a club that met in the day during a study hall period. Which would also explain why a bell would go off-since the study hall would be bookended by classes
22:39 minutes in! There being more than one on-theme wardrobe change and this being 12 hours, you got a sub :)
This video is a masterpiece. Glee was such a big part of my life from 2010-2015. What a was a surreal trip down memory lane. Thank you for making me feel seen.
Finally an 12-hour video on Glee. Mike’s Mic’s Glee videos are great, but I’m a glutton for Glee.
Brief, it says. I’ve been here for two days
11:54:24 Percy Jackson is not a reboot but a completely new adaptation of the books
The sudden lore about your high school drama dating experience was not something I was ready for but also wasn’t surprised by having also been a drama kid in high school
I’m only like 2hrs in but so far I think it’s really interesting how you barely mention or discuss every single awful terrible cruel thing Rachel does but have no issue whacking everyone else. While also constantly defending her. Especially with the way you had a whole mini section criticizing Mercedes when even in s1 Rachel was a much worse person. Oh and you gave a very nuanced take on the Finn/Kurt situation but barely gave any mention of Mercedes side in the her and Kurt situation. Again suppper interesting stuff lol
I noticed this too. Finn and Rachel do something actually horrendous every other episode but there was way more criticism for Mercedes (for such minor things in the grand scheme of the show). It felt disproportionate. Not to mention that, whether she was outed before or not, the video excuses Finn from the part he played in outing Santana in season 3, which was way worse
@@gothlibraryfairyexactly this
As much as I've been trying to enjoy this video, I definitely agree with this. The amount of times awful actions from characters are ignored because they're characters that she likes is hard to ignore :/
Yeah the way characters like Rachel and Finn get way more consideration for their actions that Santana or Mercedes (both women of color.... how interesting) is kind of infuriating the further into the analysis you get. I get that Santana kind of sucks a lot of the time but so does literally every other character on the show. Also saying that "Well, Brittany IS stupid so Artie calling her that isn't even a big deal!" is craaazy when Santana gets flak for it like 5 seconds later lol. Santana gets so much shit throughout the video for being a bully (which is fair) but Sue (and other characters) are praised as fun villians when they also say horrible shit. Like the gushing about Sam being her favorite character and then BARELY touching on his weird racism feels extremely intentional.
You can really tell how much this creator hates Brittana (both as a couple and as individual characters) as well as Klaine and other minor characters to the point of it making her analysis/recaps feel lopsided and biased in a pretty blatant way.
@@ZeelAllan Exactly. Hard not to notice that almost all of the straight white people are “allowed” to commit the worst atrocities on the show and be forgiven, while the non-white people are judged for things that are so minor or not even their fault (half of the rant about Mercedes for instance.) And one of the first things she mentions in the recap of the episodes is how Sandy, who was fired for being inappropriate with a student and sold/gave away his medical marijauna, and bullied children was her favorite character of season 1…
I have incredible respect for the fact that you only have two videos and this is one of them. It’s very well made and so ambitious. You’ve gained a subscriber in me!
In defense of the acoustic Teenage Dream (because it's actually my FAVORITE Blaine performance), the thing that makes it impressive to me is how deeply he emotes throughout it. He is singing through tears, which is never going to sound like the prettiest thing in the world, but it's moving. Darren Criss demanded that they do not autotune him whenever he sang solo, which really makes all of his performances more raw and real. Teenage Dream (acoustic) isn't a flawless vocal performance, but that's why I like it! It puts the acting first in a very emotional scene, and I think that was a good choice.
Thank you for sharing your feelings! I really appreciate hearing different opinions. I agree that Darren gives a really good performance from an acting standpoint. I think it's my theatre bg, but I just have a hard time listening to people cry while singing. Crying is so bad for the health of your voice, and it totally messes up the resonance/phonation/breath support, so it makes this performance less than stellar for me even if the acting is top notch.
@@AnnasEraOfficial If you appreciate hearing differnet opinions, why haven't you responded to any of the comments calling out your clear bias against the women of color in the series?
@@AnnasEraOfficial I'd also like to see you respond to the comments about the Very obvious racial bias you had throughout this video lol
@@rrtolkein4221 glad I'm not the only one wondering why she replies to random shit and inaccurate criticisms but none of the valid ones
6:38:51 I believe that Amber Riley asked the writers room to have Mercedes wait. Originally they had written it so that her and Sam did sleep together. I wish I could find the interview where she spoke about it.
This must have taken ages to put together thank you so much I’m subscribed can’t wait to see more from you!
havent even watched much glee but here to send love!! An 11 hour video is a COMMITMENT. good job!!
Thank you! It was definitely a labor of love
I was waiting for you to get to the Props episode before I commented on anything. It was such a missed opportunity for Tina to find passion outside of Glee club.
Her style and way with colors would ideally make her an excellent costume designer for the club. If that episode had a redo, I would make Tina discover that she has a real talent for design and fashion, and that can teach the audience that there are other ways to flourish when you aren't feeling seen. She had by far the best fashion sense, and it could have tied back to her previously established self-esteem issues that caused her to fake her stutter to begin with. Heck, them losing Nationals could have been the catalyst for making her think about her future.
I thought it was so disrespectful to her character to tie her back to Artie and make her an actress, when she didn't express any interest in that.
FYI: In K-Pop they use the ba ba ba as counts for dance moves/choreo if they are the Dance Leader of the group so that their members can remember the dance moves. Blake Jenner is a psychopath and the shit he did to Melissa on set and irl he should be locked up. He was a Walking Red Flag from the very beginning.
Thanks for adding this! I don’t know much about Kpop, so I had no idea they counted like that. I’m used to the musical theatre counting 5 6 7 8
I genuinely cannot wait for this to go viral
Overall definitely enjoying the video, but not sure why you glossed over so much of The First Time in season 3? You specifically bring up criminal stuff later, and yet no mention of the fake id’s and underage drinking that leads to Blaine trying to pressure Kurt into having sex in a way that I would consider attempted assault at the very least. And then Kurt ends up apologizing to him and they do sleep together at the end of the episode. It always made me feel so icky and honestly felt symptomatic of a larger issue with their relationship that never got better. I know not everything can be included, that just seemed kinda big to leave out.
I do appreciate the callout of Rachel being handed everything though. Her still getting into NYADA was so contrived and ridiculous. Plus it really would have been better for her character to have a narrative more like the one Kurt had in season 4.
Edit: Would like to add onto the class vs. club debate, my school had clubs meet during the school day once per week. On Wednesdays we had a special club period and all the regular class periods were shortened. Some clubs would meet additionally before or after school as well. Our GSA met during the club period, but we also stayed after school sometimes when working on stuff (like when we tie-dyed/painted shirts to sell for charity). Also I wasn't in drama club, but my best friend was and I know they met during the club period and then met after school for rehearsals when doing a play/musical.
3:40:51 This is an excellent point. It reminds me of my experience as a high school theater kid from rural Ohio whose very white school decided the musical one year was going to be Once on This Island…so, this plotline didn’t even phase me when it aired. 😂
I found my purpose in life, watching this video.
I’m still only halfway through but the constant references to Israel are really something. Interesting to see the normalization of the U.S.’ apartheid settler colony in SWANA in something so mundane. There’s a real effort across US media to reinforce a relationship to its colony.
I absolutely adore these types of videos and I can't thank you enough for the amount of effort that would have gone into making this. This was such a treat the whole way through
2:12:20 as an Ohio resident and barred lawyer I would like to point out that actually it is only illegal if it wasn't purchased or served by their parent or guardian (which it wasn't in that scene). In Ohio a parent can legally give or order you alcohol for consumption.
Also first time Minor offenders are likely to just get a deferred sentence and likely community service. Puck on the other hand would probably get a suspended sentence and reportable probation based on the documented criminal history you have shown so far. They would also probably be suspended from the Glee club by the school administration, meaning the show would end right there. The bigger crime is on the adults or store who supplied the alcohol.
EDIT: I forgot Puck was already on probation, he would definitely have violated that and would probably serve 21-30 days in a corrections facility.
from the intro alone and the run time i can tell im going to really appreciate this! ❤️ i’ve watched every glee retrospective and or analysis video on this platform! some really great ( i really like HoshOn’s!) but i always find myself longing to add my tidbits of info and feelings especially in moments i feel they miss the point or lack the understanding of how it felt as a fan at that time! glad to see this from a fans perspective covering all aspects of the show! i selfishly wish i could keep the show in the bubble that it was and how i felt about it as a kid/tween who used this show as a major comfort! everything tragic that’s happened (rest in peace cory & naya!) everything that we’ve learned about certain actors makes it hard to go back and watch the show so i love finding these kinds of videos, excited to watch 🥹
Yes I love HoshOn's glee analysis videos, especially when he adds "gl" to any word to the point where brittany was brittglee
@ yes!! i had the same problem as another commenter who kept hearing it as “brickley” for a little while because i was listening only 🤣
I've just found you and wow! You are so through and thoughtful. Immediate subscribe!!!
10:15:21 one thing i will say is that most schools nowadays have kids sing songs from the show for auditions. it’s something i’ve seen more and more recently in high school theater
So refreshing to have someone actually try to understand Rachel. So many fans resent she was the lead and never see anything but the few bad and yes I mean few bad things she did. She never gets credit for the nice things and the bad things are exaggerated and brought up all the time.
your commitment to this analysis is truly commendable... i'm so blessed for this to have popped up on my feed as a fellow gleek😭
Coming straight out of the gates with a 12 hour epic! Loved it, immediately subscribed 💖
Thank you for calling out their treatment of sex workers in the episode where Finn beats up Rachel’s boyfriend. You’re so right about the real world implications of seeing violence and a rightful reaction to sex work. It’s horrifying and tragic in real life, and not worth the small amount of shipping drama
i haven’t started this yet but i already thank you for your service i will be watching this for the next four days
Me
Have I seen all the seasons of Glee? No.
Did I watch this entire video? Yes.
Y'know, to this day, I'm still waiting for someone to make a video title, Glee and The Case against Ryan Murphy.
Really appreciate how carefully and thoughtfully you talked about Beist
I admire how much time you put into this I’ll have to break this up into e few days of a watch but I will absolutely be watching ❤
This is such a great video to sleep to. thank you for this
This video is excellent! I’m halfway through already. I love your takes on all of the different aspects of Glee storylines, director choices, songs, etc. this is quite obviously the work of someone who has a real love for the show and I could tell your passion for this subject! A lot of modern “analysis” videos, especially long ones, tend to be just summaries of the media. You actually dig into a lot of nuances behind this franchise. This is awesome!!
I usually watch these kind of videos on my 2nd Screen while gaming, but this was so good, I just stopped and watched this insanely good video!
I’m not gonna lie my favorite part so far this entire video is you getting Lincoln Park in my chemical romance confused
(so far,) mine's the mixup or dreamgirls and mean girls lol 7:45
good evening I’m going to put this on as i fall asleep and i will happily wake up to this still playing
This video is a work of art. You deserve all the success coming your way!! Please keep it up this has been my source of entertainment over the last few days lol
21:11 When I decided to join my school's drama program in my junior year of high school, people started to view me differently because I love to sing and I love musical theater. People already were calling me gay before that, and my joining my school's drama program made it worse, even some of the people in my own shows would say I am gay or bisexual. It has always offered me to this day, and it is one of the reasons why I have such bad social anxiety. I have always wanted to do theater as a kid, but I never had the confidence or didn't have someone to push me into it. The reason why people think I am gay or bisexual is because I act more feminine than masculine. I have always hated the stereotype that I am gay. Even some of my friends today thought I was gay when I first met them! It always irks me when people think I am gay they are very upfront about it. I always hope that as I get older (I am 18) people will stop questioning my sexually and putting that gay label on me for doing something I will always love to do.
“We can blame Glee for Tom Hooper’s Cats”
Love that we have this option
i love this. its like this video was created for me personally. thank you for your service.
This was an insane, Herculean feat of video essayism, and I have spent two and a half days utterly riveted as I made my way through it. Thank you so much for this comprehensive, thoughtful, entertaining dissection of Glee and all things even tangentially related. I can't imagine how much work and effort went into this, and I enjoyed every minute.
This is the kind of content I crave. Prepared to give my whole day up for this video
I'm on day 2 of watching this. I'm sure it'll take me 3 days to fully finish but man oh man am I loving this
I love supremely long glee analysis videos!! They fuel me ❤😂thank you for this!
Also props to your cosplays, it's so unreal the dedication you took for this video ❤
You made a side comment mentioning Pretty Little Liars, which was enough for me to humbly suggest a similar video for that show lol. Obviously Mike's Mic covered it well, and I love his PLL videos, but I'd love your take on it since it seems like you spend more time on dissecting character choices :)
Me: sees Brief analysis of glee checks the time (11 hours) muttering amazing to myself as i click on the video
Amazing!! Subscribed. I’m so glad my algorithm showed me this video because it’s right up my alley. Can’t wait to see what else you do! ❤️
You only have 222 subs right now?? I am so blessed by the algorithm, I had been desperate for a super in depth deep dive into a show I only watched the first season of ❤️❤️ thank you!
RUclips knows me so well and my love for video essays on things I have seen and have not seen to show me this video. I'm not far in but I can tell a lot of work and effort went into this! I hope your channel grows more and more.
I haven't seen enough comments about your outfit for each chapter in all this! Oops, all iconic outfits!
watched this in a single sitting, great video
I'm glad that everything I watched of glee was the important parts
Queen this video is about to blow up
Almost 5 hours in and the editing for this video is crazy impressive!!!!!! I was shocked seeing you only have one other video. I can't wait to see whatever comes from your channel if you keep making content. This is awesomeeeee
Am I crazy or was there no mention of the DV storyline with Beist? (I’m about 6h in)
I was at the New Jersey performance where the concert was filmed and it's extra wild how bad the angles they chose were since they filmed at least half of the songs twice just to get additional angles. They really did them dirty
I am so jealous you got to see the Gloncert live with Gwyneth and everything
it feels miraculous to see the view count grow in real time, each time i watch! you deserve it.
finally have gotten about five hours in. Is it just me or is this really rachel-sympathist coded? She is SO harsh to characters like santana and mercedes and it's kinda bumming. I'll guess I'll see if it gets better
@@The-Doctor6969I’m 5:20hrs in and I thought I was the only one who noticed!
I'm unsure if it's because she feels the general popculture knows Rachel is weird or if there's a bias. Like, she went on for quite some time about Mercedes defending Quinn's baby lie but I don't recall a crack house mention. Rachel sent someone to a trap house bro @@angiemarin622 edit: I should mention maybe some criticism got lost in the edit/mass of video. This is a big fucking video
An almost 12 hour long video about one of my favorite shows? Oh im gonna LOVE this
Clicked on this video expecting a standard 45-minute to an hour long Glee commentary video.
I was not prepared for that runtime, and I am so excited.
At 2:40:30 as someone who's worked with a number of different choreographers this is a very common way of teaching choreo. I think I've heard every choreographer for a style that wasn't ballet do the mouth sounds. For a dancer (which he's used to working with) it makes sense. I can see why he's getting so frustrated because he's being forced to work with people who are not professionals but are being expected to pick up choreo like they are. If they wanted dancers, there should have been a dance portion of the initial casting for TGP, and if they were looking to make dancers, they should have had a dance teacher working with the contestants and not a choreographer.
I’m so glad I’ve stumbled upon this, gonna spend my next week of free time watching
I’m only 5 hours in, so I don’t know if you address this later, but you can totally be mean to Blake and discourage him. He’s a known abuser
seeing this is crazy with how little views there is so far and seeing how small your channel is, i am extremely inlove with video essays and i am so so excited for the future of this channel and this must have taken forever to put together i am just blown away. my autistic glee special interest ass i going feral right now