Look, man, I can't believe y'all boot-lickers put the *Reasonable Doubt* album in the same sentence as *ILLMATIC.* Jay-Z said it on the *BluePrint III* album, track: *CLAP FOR'EM: **_"I had the Illmatic album on bootleg, the sh!t was so ahead, I thought we were all dead!"_* That Jay-Z line means that the Illmatic album kills everybody's joints! On top of that, he used NaS's vocals on Dead Presidents; he has Biggie, and Prodigy's vocals, and others. NaS only had an unknown marksman named AZ that shot off the buzz with his career. Jay-Z can't touch NaS's storytelling on *ILLMATIC!* NaS also has too many killer joints while Jay-Z has more pop and girlie hits for the club! With NaS still dropping hits and still touring his new album *KINGS DISEASE II,* NaS is much sharper and is *STILLMATIC!*
In a Verzuz battle I think it would be up to the surprises... for example Jay-Z does Empire State of Mind with Alicia, right... Then NaS brings out Lauryn Hill for If I Ruled the World. Those kinda moments would be classic.
Ok so let's continue the battle. So Jay comes out the gate swinging with "Empire State Of Mind" and Nas comes back at him with "If I Ruled The World". What does Jay respond with? Let's say he responds with "Izzo Hova": what should nas play?
@Keanu Powell lmao he definitely does. Jayz classics stopped in 2003. 🤣🤣 And Nas has 3 classic albums the past year and a half. Keep up with the program kid.
Nas is the perfect MC because his versatility. He fused Rakim, G Rap, Slick Rick storytelling, KRS One knowledge all into his own style. He got rap out of that fast paced rap style.
Great analogy. Then he took it step further with his creativity with concept songs like " I Gave You Power", "Rewind", "Last Words", "Sekou's Story", "Beef", etc...
Hitboy was a "blessing". I think most of us was charmed by life is good but then when he got hitboy in his corner and started flexing more, along with the financial success which elevated his confidence level he like damn near reached the ultimate level. Hopefully more to come. Nas the best regardless
I don’t think that Jay would really talk like Jada did. Jay will have it as more of a concert performance. Probably will be the best put together versus ever.
Nas and Jay are rap and black culture icons that have separated themselves from the rest of the genre. The only ones that could go against a Nas or Jay are Tupac and Biggie
Man so no Scarface I get it but man face and geto boys got a strong songs but I'm from the south and to be honest always thought Jay was kinda commercial
would be dope. Nas plays NY state of mind, Jay plays empire state of mind, they play their collabs, ends with them performing The world is yours/ Dead Presidents II.
Seriously Nas changed hip hop changed the whole landscape lyrically period it would be nice to see two iconic giants going at it huge for the real era of HIP HOP!!!
Even Nas admitted himself on a interview for stillmatic before release, this album will be better , and said it on the intro " never go backwards always moving "
Seen em both live. Jay was more of a party vibe, but the way Nas has the crowds attention was epic. Two totally different shows. Also, Nas could do shit with Damien Marley. They didn’t mention him
@@Don.M. Or doing Disppear “The master, the masses One has power the other one lacks it Guns and power are controlled like assets Owned by financial forcasters Who are the masters? The gangstas, the bankers, the ones who tax us And who are the masses? Us, the people, divided in classes I go off like a Shiite bomb Yall bout yo see Im on my Warpaint on my face shit, 9mm on my waist shit”
Wrong, ma'am...Jay is a lackluster performer. He kinda stands there and sways...BUT his songs knock so hard whether for the club or the streets, it feels like a great performance.
@@julianisaac6004 I know this post old af but big facts on your comment. I’ve been to a Jay concert and it’s not the performance that sets the building on fire, it’s the songs and the nostalgia for those songs. Jay doesn’t have to do much because the crowd does it for him. Take for instance when he does “n*gas in paris”. All he does for that record is form a mosh pit and just stands there semi hyping the song while the crowd does the rest in the mosh pit. Jay is one out of a few rappers who can get away with lacklustered performance due to how hard his songs hit
@@julianisaac6004 true. It’s his songs and incorporation of crowd participation that mask the fact that his actual stage presence is only above average. His wife on the other hand….
Nas discography is crazy and has a lot of street, deep and powerful records 1. I gave you power 2. The world is yours 3. Nas is Like 4. The message 5. Your Da Man 6. One Mic 7. Made you Look 8. Hate Me Now 9. Verbal Intercourse 10. Take it in Blood 11. If I ruled the world 12. Life’s A B 13. Mo money mo murder 14. Fast Life w/G Rap 15. Eye for an Eye 16. It ain’t hard to tell 17. Patience 18. It’s mine w/mobb deep 19. NY state of Mind 20. Got Yourself a Gun 21. Thugz Mansion 22. Street Dreams remix 23. Hot Boyz 24. Life We Chose 25. Live at the BBQ 26. John Blaze 27. Body in the Trunk 28. Halftime 29. Grand Finale 30. Ether And this is all before 2003 lol
Bruh these people saying Nas would get smoked would be in for a rude awakening. That list alone is a beast and that ain't even no where near the end of it
I hate how they never talk about how the crowd will impact the energy. If it’s a lot of street dudes in they mid 30s and Nas starts with NY State of Mind, it’s going to be hard for Jay to switch into SOME of those radio hits
"Nas" 1. The World Is Yours 2. N.Y. State of Mind 3. It Aint Hard To Tell 4. Made You Look 5. If I Ruled The World 6. Hate Me Now 7. Street Dreams 8. Nas Is Like 9. Got Yourself A Gun 10. One Love 11. One Mic 12. Lifes A Bitch 13. Gave You Power 14. Represent 15. Memory Lane 16. Shootouts 17. Phone Tap 18. Fast Life 19. Halftime 20. Surviving The Times VS "Jay-Z" 1. Empire State Of Mind 2. Friend or Foe 3. Things That U Do 4. Encore 5. DOA 6. Niggas In Paris 7. Can I Get A 8. Jigga My Nigga 9. Excuse Me Miss 10. Allure 11. Money Aint A Thing 12. De'vils 13. Roc Boys 14. I Jus Wanna Love U (Give It To Me) 15. Girls Girls Girls 16. N What N Who? 17. H To The Izzo 18. Run This Town 19. Anything 20. Dirt off Your Shoulder
Nasty Nas Escobar the G, the Godson, the G.O.A.T! The greatest rapper ever alive or dead to ever put a pen/pencil to paper or touch a mafuckin microphone! PERIOD!!!
@@theod610 I'm a fan of both and I aware of the damage Nas did with Either!! However jay z is a beast of free styling ! Jay z is not the one that people should sleep on! He is Extremely witty and crafty and calculated.
The thing about Verzuz, it's really about the performance. The hits matter, but if you go out there and rap like you need a deal(Jada) you will win. Of you play it too cool(Fab/Dipset) you will lose... Regardless of the songs. With that being said, I really don't see Jay or Nas coming out there rapping their asses off, so it depends on the tracklist.
Illmatic vs. unreasonable doubt, both albums are classics and before their time. The culture definitely wins. There is no right song performed after another for the Gods. This will end with a joint song. When it happens it’s gonna be a beautiful thing. 2 Kings, 2 thrones, 2 mics, 1 STAGE.
Please stop putting reasonable doubt next to illmatic doggystyle ready to die only built for cuban linx infamous but especially ILLMATIC. Jay had mad collaborations on his debut ever single on that album had a feature from dead presidents has Nas vocals and Nas would have been a feature he is had Mary J Blidge on can't knock the hustle although he wrote ain't no ninja he still featured a under age foxy Brown that's another feature then there is a girl singing on the hook to Feeling it. And that has been J's formula his whole entire career and nobody talks about this. U can't say u R the greatest unless you hold your own and showcase your talent and I'm Jay hasn't done that once. Most of these rappers y'all call great don't have albums that weren't heavily featured oriented. ILLMATIC Nas did Solo yes the album had AZ but that was his entry into the game he wasn't famous or had any songs out or anything so how can you think to put reasonable doubt anywhere Illmatic I mean Nas ghosted him for a feature for reasonable doubt and he still sample that Man on his debut. This is where ppl r confused and delusional and they get caught up to smoking mirrors and they can't see the obvious right in front of them. Then Nas not only ghosted him but also dropped another classic album in the same month Jay drops his debut forget the line lex with tv sets minimum that was a excuse for Jay to use because on his next album the beginning of the vol series on volume 1 Jay sample Nas again on rap game crack game and then puts himself in the conversation with Nas and Biggie in which Jay sales lyrics or skills where on the level technically like Nas or Big. Jay did this many times in his career making statements without nobody checking him outside of a few ppl back then like prodigy and that's why he went at them on the worst overated diss song ever The Fakeover. This guy had the never to say Ny got soft ever since snoop came through and crushed the buildings I'm trying to restore the feeling what feeling Nas Big mobb deep Wu ran Ny at that time and Jay was not outside in them streets like that Yeah he might of been in the club popping 🍾 but he didn't want no sauce during the West Coast East Coast beef and it have been facts they had Jay stuck in hotels scared to death Jay been soft thats why 50 cent always dissed him I mean this the same guy that Solange beat up in the elevator 😂
Don't matter if u like Hov or Esco they both are Top Dogs and at the end of the day both these brothers are still here and alive to witness after math of there success not many get to enjoy this so if it happens Hip-hop gets the biggest W once again Hov is my favorite and I like Nas ill appreciate the show...
No take over or ether… they don’t need to take it there.. that shit needs to stay in the past dead and buried. Besides they have multiple songs together after all the drama, and their catalogues are impeccable. I’m a huge fan of both, so in my mind there is no winner just a celebration of 2 of the greatest of all time.
@@secondshosecondsho3353 🤣 i remember that. nobody talks about that. but all bs aside they both great and they both dont need to do a versus, they come from the old school era of freestyle.
Talib is right about Jay and Nas having that element of throwing those subtleties around - Nas and Jay CAN perform! It's defintely going to be a long night!
@@bigmike2884 no he can't. Hov would be talking about selling dope em would be talking about smoking it. That being said Em is the second most complete rapper next to Jay. Jay and Em are more complete than Nas.
Jay z has no awnser if Nas drops ether.....that will be the only talking point of the battle. Nas has certain songs that hit better for battles but they both has serious hits.
They right that it really comes down to song selection and the energy on stage and in the room. But on the real - and I'm team Nas all day - But Jay got at least two combinations of set list that Nas shouldn't be able to compete with...All he gotta do is pick the right songs and he should get the W...But stranger things have happened 🤷🏾♂️
Nas my #1 goat but Jay got more moments on other people’s records. If verzuz was soley based only their catalog then I go with Nas but Jay can even perform Still Dre and bring Beyonce out lol
Exactly. Jay and Nas is like the cool guy vs the high school quarterback and his teeamates and the cheerleader. On skill, yeah it's even. But Jay cares sooooooo much about image and that's what verzuz is all about. Nas could give a fuck which is why I love him but why he'd be terrible for a verzuz.
@@LembeckIsStaying I feel what you wrote but i still disagree, i don't think it would go that way. Nas too great for that. He would put up a fight (in my opinion he would win that one)
Yes because jz really Steals a lot of people's shit! He a wave rider. Most his big songs from the rocafella days were stolen from his artist. Then he refused to put out their albums because he was stealing their ideas. This is facts. Go look up Oschino, Beanie Seigel interviews about Jz biting and stealing people's shit.
Souch a tough decision. I think jay brings different elements depending on the magnitude of the event. He has features who come out. He will hit you with an unheard freestyle. He switches the beats up in the middle of the song. A lot of elements to a Jay Z performance. Nas performance is almost theater like. A build up to a climax. It's wild. It would be an epic verzuz.
Nas vs Hov… wowwwww it would literally come down to song selection and who controls the crowd the best that night. However I would want them to revisit Takeover and Ether. They did that and agreed to leave it in the past. Neither one of them have performed either one of them songs since they agreed never to do them again. Why go backwards… If it ever happens they could make this be the 1st and maybe last Pay Per View Versus…
Each Generation had that battle, Furious 5 vs Cold Crush Crew, Big Daddy Kane Vs. Rakim, MC Shan vs KRS-One, Nas vs Jay-Z, DMX vs all NY, Kendrick vs J Cole
Def Greatest Two MCs of All Time. However Either Would Never Risk Their Legacy For That Platform. It’s Not Classy Enough and They Would Need At Least 75% of The Proceeds To Ras Clat.
The criteria of all battles should be set in stone before during the battles. That way it eliminates bs like ppl thinking a person’s level of fame dictates their level of talent and body of work.
Jay Z does a versus with Tony Starks!! Ironman!! Ghostface!! Jay has 17 albums catalog!! Ghostface has 22 albums !! Ghostface has HITS and long body of work, he has the influence!! He’s been in a supergroup!! WuTang!! Ghostface has the energy!!!
Ppl don’t really understand, Nas is a non factor is so many pockets of the country. In the Versuz model with a social media factor and so many young folks Jay would wash. Nas just doesn’t have the commercial success to roll in this era with social media in the Versuz model.
@@4u4000 And then Hov said “ Yeah I sampled your voice, you was using it all wrong, you made it a hot line, I made it a hot song…I know who I paid Search Life Publishing, you aint get a coin, you was gettin fucked then!
@@dolo4625 first of all Dead President II can’t come close to the World is yours and that’s facts. Secondly, Jay is confessing albeit subconsciously to the fact that Nas owns a piece of his catalog ask MC Serch he said it on drink champs
@@joneseybaby8124 if this did happen I’d hope Jay isn’t thinking he’d want to prove he’s a better rapper that’ll give Nas a big chance. Use the hits! And Jay should have it
I hope we all realize Jay went on to create better albums than Reasonable Doubt?? BluePrint, Black Album, 4:44? I get why everyone loves his 1st album but come on now
Fam, Jay went mainstream. You can't listen to Reasonable Doubt and compare to anything in Jay's future. No hate, Hov was at his peak during RD artistically. He just got popular and the narrative changed. It happens.
@@LembeckIsStaying I can compare Reasonable Doubt to Blueprint, The Black Album, Blueprint 2, American Gangster, 4:44. I get the nostalgia around Reasonable Doubt but to say he hasn’t made anything better is completely disregarding the evolution he went thru as an artist. It’s like after that you’re gonna tell me NOTHING was close to if not better than his first album. Nas definitely I could say that about, I can’t think of anything that has come close to surpassing Illmatic except Stillmatic and that’s still questionable 😬. Both of them went Mainstream it happens to great artists
I want to see this, and if it ever happens, IDGAF, I’ll be in that building. But if it ain’t them two, I honestly feel like HOV and Snoop would’ve been a great battle. Snoop has a great catalog and is a great stage performer. He’s not as lyrical as HOV in his later years but he has a lot of classic hits. And HOV couldn’t bully him on stage with jokes cause Snoop is funny then a mothafucka. 20 v 20 I think that would be a great match. Imagine if HOV did New York State of Mind and then Snoop did New York New York, that shit would EPIC 😂
When you condense Jay catalog to 20 records, it’s gonna be tough to beat, especially with him being a dope performer, he has everything, radio hits, classic features, anthems, cult classics, classic album cuts even classic songs he wrote for others, but it would be dope seeing them on stage together playin they records.
Nas wins! I don't know if y'all been to Nas concert brother puts on! And where I'm from Jay-Z street credit in late 90's was questionable. Some say that's why they signed beans and the philly boys. Jay got the sales. Nas is different, in my opinion Nas skills are unmatched by no one!
@@sc84_ well some people do street dream but people in the streets where I'm from and not all always felt Nas could relate to street life better and more importantly could make the track feel relatable.
@@dre3505 Nas was a good kid growing up he wasn’t no gangsta or sold dope he was like a hood narrator and a poet that rapped about the things he saw in his hood and growing up Jay on the other hand was in the streets moving weight been in shoot outs and it has been confirmed by ogs from his hood I like them both but facts is facts Nas and ice cube weren’t gangsters they just knew how to tell a story/tale about the hood
@@alpz5939 it took Nas 3 months to write that, Jay hit nas next night with fresh bars. Track record Hov got the edge on nas for freestyling ability Nas pen game strong but in a battle off top of the head Jay takes it everytime.
The powers that be and the system engineers would be the only ones to benefit from these Icons. They don’t need to entertain these entities.. and create more distractions for society. They left all their love and passion and the track for these past decades.. blessed to love hip hop and rap. .. and understand its development…
KRS doesn't have 20 chart topping hits! Yes, he's a great lyricist and battle rapper but that's not what versus is all about. It's not a freestyle competition, its radio hit after hit after hit! You need 20 bangers my guy! Nas would body him after the first 3 songs! "Ether", "Nastradamus" and "If I ruled the world"! Its over after that!
@@cresswellchipman2533 If it was like how it was when they were just playing the songs with no live audience i would agree. But now that they've changed the format it's different. The Lox proved that in the Dipset battle. Plus the fact that with the live audience factor you would have people their that are familiar with KRS catalouge. It totally changes the perception, but yeah if we're talking just song for song, Nas SHOULD win.
Love um both at least at one point of time anyway but Nas has ALWAYS been better than Jay-Z in my opinion. Don't get me wrong Jay-Z is nice or at least he used to be and still has his moments but has never ever been better than Nas
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I love both but I think Jay-Z wins this one
Nas
Look, man, I can't believe y'all boot-lickers put the *Reasonable Doubt* album in the same sentence as *ILLMATIC.* Jay-Z said it on the *BluePrint III* album, track: *CLAP FOR'EM: **_"I had the Illmatic album on bootleg, the sh!t was so ahead, I thought we were all dead!"_*
That Jay-Z line means that the Illmatic album kills everybody's joints! On top of that, he used NaS's vocals on Dead Presidents; he has Biggie, and Prodigy's vocals, and others. NaS only had an unknown marksman named AZ that shot off the buzz with his career. Jay-Z can't touch NaS's storytelling on *ILLMATIC!* NaS also has too many killer joints while Jay-Z has more pop and girlie hits for the club! With NaS still dropping hits and still touring his new album *KINGS DISEASE II,* NaS is much sharper and is *STILLMATIC!*
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Scarface song for song scarface puts on a hell of a show what you thing about that
The thought of a Nas and Jay versus will give any fan goosebumps. It would be big for hip hop. Salute to both goats!
Sadly the God Jay would never 😔😔 .. But if he did it would be enormous
If it happens it will break the internet
True
I'd gladly pay to watch it!
Jay and Nas too sensitive for vs. their interviews be SOFT AF.
In a Verzuz battle I think it would be up to the surprises... for example Jay-Z does Empire State of Mind with Alicia, right... Then NaS brings out Lauryn Hill for If I Ruled the World. Those kinda moments would be classic.
Empire State of Mind is garbage…
@@worldlfree compared 2 If I ruled the world definitely.
@@worldlfree you fucking wack. You just hating fucking Cornwball. That's a great song all time. You just hate really. Them songs are classic.
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Ok so let's continue the battle. So Jay comes out the gate swinging with "Empire State Of Mind" and Nas comes back at him with "If I Ruled The World". What does Jay respond with? Let's say he responds with "Izzo Hova": what should nas play?
They both greats. Nas albums are timeless and creative.
Hov s better
@@johnbest8091 never dat
Jay Z probably has 5 classic albums
Nas has more classic albums and songs. And classics beats hits all day.
@Keanu Powell lmao he definitely does. Jayz classics stopped in 2003. 🤣🤣 And Nas has 3 classic albums the past year and a half. Keep up with the program kid.
Nas is the perfect MC because his versatility. He fused Rakim, G Rap, Slick Rick storytelling, KRS One knowledge all into his own style. He got rap out of that fast paced rap style.
Great analogy. Then he took it step further with his creativity with concept songs like " I Gave You Power", "Rewind", "Last Words", "Sekou's Story", "Beef", etc...
He’s the chosen one, the GOAT
It's close. But currently since Nas found hitboy he became damn near untouchable
"He got rap out of that fast paced rap style" Not enough people give him credit for that
Hitboy was a "blessing". I think most of us was charmed by life is good but then when he got hitboy in his corner and started flexing more, along with the financial success which elevated his confidence level he like damn near reached the ultimate level. Hopefully more to come. Nas the best regardless
There is ZERO chance that Nas and Jay will do a Versuz battle. ZERO
versuz is a petty thing for nas n jay...they have nothing to prove.
I totally agree. Who ever was to lose, their career would take a vital blow that they wouldn't be able to recover from
@@sancofa7 i disagree
Jay and Swizz are like best friends
So don’t sleep on this
@@sancofa7 that's not true don't believe the hype
I don’t think that Jay would really talk like Jada did. Jay will have it as more of a concert performance. Probably will be the best put together versus ever.
To be honest bro I don't think Jay would even show his face
Jay would bring a live band
@@jamint.jaddua1771 he wouldnt
@@jamint.jaddua1771 right it’s all a long shot.
You must don’t watch hov live to much jay a bully
Nas and Jay are rap and black culture icons that have separated themselves from the rest of the genre. The only ones that could go against a Nas or Jay are Tupac and Biggie
Facts
Factz
Kanye would do just fine against either of them.
Man so no Scarface I get it but man face and geto boys got a strong songs but I'm from the south and to be honest always thought Jay was kinda commercial
How when biggie was scared to mention Nas name on " kick in the door " after Nas dissed him multiple times
Nas can win, but he has to pick the right songs
A few clue freestyles here and there
@@cartierjoe .💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Nas catalog DEEP!
would be dope. Nas plays NY state of mind, Jay plays empire state of mind, they play their collabs, ends with them performing The world is yours/ Dead Presidents II.
nah black republicans or success
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Epic
You are comparing NY state of mind to empire state of mind?
@@pagola this just tells me that Nas will win 🤣🤣🤣
once NAS drops SPEECHLESS after NY STATE OF MIND the room may cave in!!!!!!!
Imagine Esco opening up with that Stillmatic intro…that rap repo man line and I want my style back🔥
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
🔥🔥🔥💪💪🔥👊
the dynasty intro
He should give rakim and g rap his style back
🔥🔥🔥🔥 best intro.
Seriously Nas changed hip hop changed the whole landscape lyrically period it would be nice to see two iconic giants going at it huge for the real era of HIP HOP!!!
How Nas came out rapping like Rakim who was clearly ahead of his time so when you mention Nas make sure you don't forget Rakim
Without Rakim there wouldn’t be a Nas but Illmatic is top 3 greatest hip-hop albums of all time!
Rakim and Big Daddy Kane changed hip-hop forever
I dont think Nas has 20 chart topping hits. I'd say 10 the most!
@@cresswellchipman2533 Yes he do, the entire “Illmatic” are full of classics
Illmatic was a classic but man.... Stillmatic was that heat for me
Agreed stillmatic was better
Even Nas admitted himself on a interview for stillmatic before release, this album will be better , and said it on the intro " never go backwards always moving "
Seen em both live. Jay was more of a party vibe, but the way Nas has the crowds attention was epic. Two totally different shows. Also, Nas could do shit with Damien Marley. They didn’t mention him
Imagine him switching to “Nahmean” 🤯
@@Don.M. Or doing Disppear
“The master, the masses
One has power the other one lacks it
Guns and power are controlled like assets
Owned by financial forcasters
Who are the masters?
The gangstas, the bankers, the ones who tax us
And who are the masses?
Us, the people, divided in classes
I go off like a Shiite bomb
Yall bout yo see Im on my
Warpaint on my face shit, 9mm on my waist shit”
@partin25, jay also did a song with Damien Marley on his last album.
Nas has an album with Junior Gong and Jay did the track after the album so save it 😂
Seen both live,Nas to me moves the crowd and gets your attention.Edge to Nas,freestyle Jigga can hang but Nas would murder him my opinion
They both got the 2 greatest catalogs but Nas...will....not....lose!
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Nas Nice!!! Catalog lukewarm tho
@@powerlo5053bs
Real talk Nas the End.
I think this would be great and seeing how NAS just dropped kings disease 2 man that whole album is classic
Yessir Facts. KD and KD2 great albums.
Nas is amazing l think that verzuz would be epic 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Kd3 is crZy
We all win with this one but I put all my money on Nas!!
Jay is an EXCELLENT performer! He didn’t need dancers, special guest or nothin! 2 hours or more of pure entertainment 🔥✊🏾
Wrong, ma'am...Jay is a lackluster performer. He kinda stands there and sways...BUT his songs knock so hard whether for the club or the streets, it feels like a great performance.
@@julianisaac6004 wrong sir! 😩🙄
@@julianisaac6004 I agree! His songs so huge he just stands there! Anybody saying other wise never seen him live or just lying to they self
@@julianisaac6004 I know this post old af but big facts on your comment. I’ve been to a Jay concert and it’s not the performance that sets the building on fire, it’s the songs and the nostalgia for those songs. Jay doesn’t have to do much because the crowd does it for him. Take for instance when he does “n*gas in paris”. All he does for that record is form a mosh pit and just stands there semi hyping the song while the crowd does the rest in the mosh pit. Jay is one out of a few rappers who can get away with lacklustered performance due to how hard his songs hit
@@julianisaac6004 true. It’s his songs and incorporation of crowd participation that mask the fact that his actual stage presence is only above average.
His wife on the other hand….
Nas discography is crazy and has a lot of street, deep and powerful records
1. I gave you power
2. The world is yours
3. Nas is Like
4. The message
5. Your Da Man
6. One Mic
7. Made you Look
8. Hate Me Now
9. Verbal Intercourse
10. Take it in Blood
11. If I ruled the world
12. Life’s A B
13. Mo money mo murder
14. Fast Life w/G Rap
15. Eye for an Eye
16. It ain’t hard to tell
17. Patience
18. It’s mine w/mobb deep
19. NY state of Mind
20. Got Yourself a Gun
21. Thugz Mansion
22. Street Dreams remix
23. Hot Boyz
24. Life We Chose
25. Live at the BBQ
26. John Blaze
27. Body in the Trunk
28. Halftime
29. Grand Finale
30. Ether
And this is all before 2003 lol
Thats a hard list. U know what you talking
Bruh these people saying Nas would get smoked would be in for a rude awakening. That list alone is a beast and that ain't even no where near the end of it
Lol if I do a Hov list before 2003 its gon be too long man.
@@sc84_ pls do one lets compare
should i add mainstream hits or features or freestyles 🤔 😂
The Fans would Win! This would be a “W” for us all!
I agree
Facts
Big up to y'all that acknowledges both these great legends, we love them both.
Same
I hate how they never talk about how the crowd will impact the energy. If it’s a lot of street dudes in they mid 30s and Nas starts with NY State of Mind, it’s going to be hard for Jay to switch into SOME of those radio hits
Exactly. And sone of Jay's radio hits are so-so
"Nas"
1. The World Is Yours
2. N.Y. State of Mind
3. It Aint Hard To Tell
4. Made You Look
5. If I Ruled The World
6. Hate Me Now
7. Street Dreams
8. Nas Is Like
9. Got Yourself A Gun
10. One Love
11. One Mic
12. Lifes A Bitch
13. Gave You Power
14. Represent
15. Memory Lane
16. Shootouts
17. Phone Tap
18. Fast Life
19. Halftime
20. Surviving The Times
VS
"Jay-Z"
1. Empire State Of Mind
2. Friend or Foe
3. Things That U Do
4. Encore
5. DOA
6. Niggas In Paris
7. Can I Get A
8. Jigga My Nigga
9. Excuse Me Miss
10. Allure
11. Money Aint A Thing
12. De'vils
13. Roc Boys
14. I Jus Wanna Love U (Give It To Me)
15. Girls Girls Girls
16. N What N Who?
17. H To The Izzo
18. Run This Town
19. Anything
20. Dirt off Your Shoulder
Nas would be tough to beat. He’s still on top! ….some place you wouldn’t know probably…….
Yessir
I see what you did there.
Had to check the replies to see if anyone else got what Donovan Cooper did!
@@Broyale26 almost 50 years old still putting out songs like that.. mine and probably everyone else’s favourite song on the album.. GOAT
Tight! Nas too Emcee & Elite for Jay..Nas Rushmore along with Krs, Rakim, G.Rap, Kane ,Chuck D, Slick Rick & em
Nasty Nas Escobar the G, the Godson, the G.O.A.T! The greatest rapper ever alive or dead to ever put a pen/pencil to paper or touch a mafuckin microphone! PERIOD!!!
I'm scared for Nas. I think jayz got it.
Big Factz
@@debrajames3865 Nas already killed HOV on Wax
@@theod610 I'm a fan of both and I aware of the damage Nas did with Either!! However jay z is a beast of free styling ! Jay z is not the one that people should sleep on! He is Extremely witty and crafty and calculated.
Absolute facts
0:06 is a moment I'll treasure forever. That moment Math shows he knows EXACTLY what he's doing. 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
I love these kinds of discussions
Nas = 🐐
That will be the BEST VERSUS EVER!!!!!!! I can’t decide!!!
The thing about Verzuz, it's really about the performance. The hits matter, but if you go out there and rap like you need a deal(Jada) you will win. Of you play it too cool(Fab/Dipset) you will lose... Regardless of the songs.
With that being said, I really don't see Jay or Nas coming out there rapping their asses off, so it depends on the tracklist.
If they don't I don't want to see it.
EXACTLY
Illmatic vs. unreasonable doubt, both albums are classics and before their time. The culture definitely wins. There is no right song performed after another for the Gods. This will end with a joint song. When it happens it’s gonna be a beautiful thing. 2 Kings, 2 thrones, 2 mics, 1 STAGE.
Please stop putting reasonable doubt next to illmatic doggystyle ready to die only built for cuban linx infamous but especially ILLMATIC. Jay had mad collaborations on his debut ever single on that album had a feature from dead presidents has Nas vocals and Nas would have been a feature he is had Mary J Blidge on can't knock the hustle although he wrote ain't no ninja he still featured a under age foxy Brown that's another feature then there is a girl singing on the hook to Feeling it. And that has been J's formula his whole entire career and nobody talks about this. U can't say u R the greatest unless you hold your own and showcase your talent and I'm Jay hasn't done that once. Most of these rappers y'all call great don't have albums that weren't heavily featured oriented. ILLMATIC Nas did Solo yes the album had AZ but that was his entry into the game he wasn't famous or had any songs out or anything so how can you think to put reasonable doubt anywhere Illmatic I mean Nas ghosted him for a feature for reasonable doubt and he still sample that Man on his debut. This is where ppl r confused and delusional and they get caught up to smoking mirrors and they can't see the obvious right in front of them. Then Nas not only ghosted him but also dropped another classic album in the same month Jay drops his debut forget the line lex with tv sets minimum that was a excuse for Jay to use because on his next album the beginning of the vol series on volume 1 Jay sample Nas again on rap game crack game and then puts himself in the conversation with Nas and Biggie in which Jay sales lyrics or skills where on the level technically like Nas or Big. Jay did this many times in his career making statements without nobody checking him outside of a few ppl back then like prodigy and that's why he went at them on the worst overated diss song ever The Fakeover. This guy had the never to say Ny got soft ever since snoop came through and crushed the buildings I'm trying to restore the feeling what feeling Nas Big mobb deep Wu ran Ny at that time and Jay was not outside in them streets like that Yeah he might of been in the club popping 🍾 but he didn't want no sauce during the West Coast East Coast beef and it have been facts they had Jay stuck in hotels scared to death Jay been soft thats why 50 cent always dissed him I mean this the same guy that Solange beat up in the elevator 😂
Don't matter if u like Hov or Esco they both are Top Dogs and at the end of the day both these brothers are still here and alive to witness after math of there success not many get to enjoy this so if it happens Hip-hop gets the biggest W once again Hov is my favorite and I like Nas ill appreciate the show...
No take over or ether… they don’t need to take it there.. that shit needs to stay in the past dead and buried. Besides they have multiple songs together after all the drama, and their catalogues are impeccable. I’m a huge fan of both, so in my mind there is no winner just a celebration of 2 of the greatest of all time.
I agree with you bro just to celebrate them
yeah those records should have never been made in the first place
Nas Rushmore along with the Krs, Rakim, Kane, G. RAP, Chuck D, Slick Rick & em. Nas too Emcee & Elite or Jay..I like jay tho
Why cause Jay-Z LOST THAT BATTLE hands down 🤔🤣🤣🤣
@@secondshosecondsho3353 🤣 i remember that. nobody talks about that. but all bs aside they both great and they both dont need to do a versus, they come from the old school era of freestyle.
Nas! Point Blank Period!
Remember what they thought of the lox and Dipset? That might happen with Nas and Jay. Nas has A LOT of songs
Jay Z vs Nas verzuz battle would be most epic, classic event in hip hop history. Social media would go crazy off of it.
Talib is right about Jay and Nas having that element of throwing those subtleties around - Nas and Jay CAN perform! It's defintely going to be a long night!
We still NEED this
Nas is for a certain crowd and Jay-Z is for everybody to listen to.
Love both, Jay Z got a unmatched energy around him😆🎯
what that mean?
FACTS NAS IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN MATCH UP WITH JAY...RESPECTFULLY
💯💯💯 please share the vid!
Rip to Biggie .. 👀👀 oh yeah somebody say wassup to fab, CAM, kiss & LL COOL JAY while you're at it
Eminem can EASILY match up with Hove...
@@bigmike2884 no he can't. Hov would be talking about selling dope em would be talking about smoking it. That being said Em is the second most complete rapper next to Jay. Jay and Em are more complete than Nas.
@@radarinfinite1032 Em is not next to hov for the very reason you mentioned , the content was not relevant to black culture 85% of the time
It an't hard to tell Nas 💯
I mean, it ain't hard to tell 🤷 #Nas
Kanye even said that Nas is a better rapper than jay-gay-z point blank period
GOLDEN ERA OF TRUE RAP ALBUMS 1986-1994....
The guy with the dreds loves Jay-Z's personality... that's clear!
Nas would most definitely beat Jay Z in a VS
Jay z has no awnser if Nas drops ether.....that will be the only talking point of the battle. Nas has certain songs that hit better for battles but they both has serious hits.
Nas and Jay-Z are 100% lyricists and could still hold a crowd with no music be played. However, Jay-Z makes Hits…but Nas makes Masterpieces!
Nas got hits too.
Jay could go up against Em?
Kanye versus Drake?
Kendrick versus J. Cole?
Ice Cube vs Scarface?
LL Cool J vs Big Daddy Kane?
KRS One vs Rakim?
BDK vs Rakim
KRS ONE vs LL Cool J
Ice Cube vs Jay Z
Nas vs Common
Treach vs Em
They right that it really comes down to song selection and the energy on stage and in the room. But on the real - and I'm team Nas all day - But Jay got at least two combinations of set list that Nas shouldn't be able to compete with...All he gotta do is pick the right songs and he should get the W...But stranger things have happened 🤷🏾♂️
Nas my #1 goat but Jay got more moments on other people’s records. If verzuz was soley based only their catalog then I go with Nas but Jay can even perform Still Dre and bring Beyonce out lol
Exactly. Jay and Nas is like the cool guy vs the high school quarterback and his teeamates and the cheerleader.
On skill, yeah it's even. But Jay cares sooooooo much about image and that's what verzuz is all about.
Nas could give a fuck which is why I love him but why he'd be terrible for a verzuz.
@@LembeckIsStaying Nas is more than imagine tho.. He is.. NAS. I can't even explain.
@@LembeckIsStaying I feel what you wrote but i still disagree, i don't think it would go that way. Nas too great for that. He would put up a fight (in my opinion he would win that one)
Yes because jz really Steals a lot of people's shit! He a wave rider. Most his big songs from the rocafella days were stolen from his artist. Then he refused to put out their albums because he was stealing their ideas. This is facts. Go look up Oschino, Beanie Seigel interviews about Jz biting and stealing people's shit.
@@yobartenda lol you saying look it up like i said thats not the case.. unfortunately doesnt matte
NAS for sure.
I put any money I get for the rest of my life. ( No Cap ) 👊🏽
They just talking about it and I'm already getting goosebumps sheesh
Souch a tough decision. I think jay brings different elements depending on the magnitude of the event. He has features who come out. He will hit you with an unheard freestyle. He switches the beats up in the middle of the song. A lot of elements to a Jay Z performance. Nas performance is almost theater like. A build up to a climax. It's wild. It would be an epic verzuz.
Nas dropped Ether on Jay-Z’s bday and that’s why Jay can’t let his obsession with Nas go. Every year he has flashbacks 😂
He’s not beating his wife because his insecure.
Nas is lukewarm at best..Jay is the Greatest of all time
What obsession?
😂
@@lentikilentuliMothergoose😂😂😂
“Lyrically I might be Talib Kwalei” based off that bar alone im going with whatever Talib say in this conversation
😂
Nas vs Hov… wowwwww it would literally come down to song selection and who controls the crowd the best that night. However I would want them to revisit Takeover and Ether. They did that and agreed to leave it in the past. Neither one of them have performed either one of them songs since they agreed never to do them again. Why go backwards…
If it ever happens they could make this be the 1st and maybe last Pay Per View Versus…
Each Generation had that battle, Furious 5 vs Cold Crush Crew, Big Daddy Kane Vs. Rakim, MC Shan vs KRS-One, Nas vs Jay-Z, DMX vs all NY, Kendrick vs J Cole
X gonna come back 2 life for that one
I love this channel it’s the essence of hip hop
I'm a always go wit Nas!💯
Either blew out every dis track J dropped!
Altho,
every other dis track Nas dropped couldn't compare to none J put out!
So i basically see it as a tie battle
But the fact that Nas had the blow out dis track, I was listenin to Nas way before I even herd of J
So I count that 2!
H.$.N©
No it didn't. It was 51% to 49% in the voting for Nas as the winner with a song. There was no blowout. That's the gas up.look it up! Love them both.
Naw, man. H to the OMO was straight fire.
Listen to “Last real nigga alive” it’s only like half-diss song but it’s amazing
Def Greatest Two MCs of All Time. However Either Would Never Risk Their Legacy For That Platform. It’s Not Classy Enough and They Would Need At Least 75% of The Proceeds To Ras Clat.
Nas is the greatest lyricist in the world period
@@ceekaysaceekay3775 In The Whole Wide World, Wow You Def Rate Nas.
Nas over everybody
Pac got 3 classic albums in 2 years ain’t nobody fuckin with Pac 🤷🏽♂️🐐
The criteria of all battles should be set in stone before during the battles. That way it eliminates bs like ppl thinking a person’s level of fame dictates their level of talent and body of work.
Nas 💯
Jay Z does a versus with Tony Starks!! Ironman!! Ghostface!! Jay has 17 albums catalog!! Ghostface has 22 albums !! Ghostface has HITS and long body of work, he has the influence!! He’s been in a supergroup!! WuTang!! Ghostface has the energy!!!
Totally agree! but...people the "masses" don't, won't, & will never understand=/ Ghost discography is legit!
True they wouldn’t respect it. Ghostface deserves mores respect than that.
Man I’m a huge fan of The Wu! But hits is hits, the words are on tape and what measures up, measures up…. That shit ain’t adding up, Jay. Easy..
Ppl don’t really understand, Nas is a non factor is so many pockets of the country. In the Versuz model with a social media factor and so many young folks Jay would wash. Nas just doesn’t have the commercial success to roll in this era with social media in the Versuz model.
Good thing us real hip hop fans don't give a fck about commercial shit. Just you outsiders like that popcorn bullsht!
If Nas pull out that J Love mixtape it's over
I love these debates
Hov play that “Where I’m From”… I’m from (insert your hood) son, thought I remind yall!
“To achieve this goal quicker, sold all my weight wet”… Hov
Thats his best song Period!!!
And then Nas say “It’s not a facade, it’s a fact this rappers wanna be Nas”
@@4u4000 And then Hov said “ Yeah I sampled your voice, you was using it all wrong, you made it a hot line, I made it a hot song…I know who I paid Search Life Publishing, you aint get a coin, you was gettin fucked then!
@@dolo4625 first of all Dead President II can’t come close to the World is yours and that’s facts. Secondly, Jay is confessing albeit subconsciously to the fact that Nas owns a piece of his catalog ask MC Serch he said it on drink champs
@@4u4000 It don’t matter! He has his own lane nicca H O V lol
As long as it isn't a hit battle and it becomes a catalog battle Nas can win, if it turns into hits then Jay got it.
Best point I’ve read thus far!!! Jay has a MOUNTAIN of hits!!!!!!!!!
@@joneseybaby8124 if this did happen I’d hope Jay isn’t thinking he’d want to prove he’s a better rapper that’ll give Nas a big chance. Use the hits! And Jay should have it
@@_IsrealPerez Agreed
If Nas accidentally drops Either, it’s a wrap.
I like this thread!
They might as well do a small doc series of “Ether”
I hope we all realize Jay went on to create better albums than Reasonable Doubt?? BluePrint, Black Album, 4:44? I get why everyone loves his 1st album but come on now
4:44 was mid tho
exactly
Fam, Jay went mainstream. You can't listen to Reasonable Doubt and compare to anything in Jay's future. No hate, Hov was at his peak during RD artistically.
He just got popular and the narrative changed. It happens.
@@LembeckIsStaying I can compare Reasonable Doubt to Blueprint, The Black Album, Blueprint 2, American Gangster, 4:44. I get the nostalgia around Reasonable Doubt but to say he hasn’t made anything better is completely disregarding the evolution he went thru as an artist. It’s like after that you’re gonna tell me NOTHING was close to if not better than his first album. Nas definitely I could say that about, I can’t think of anything that has come close to surpassing Illmatic except Stillmatic and that’s still questionable 😬. Both of them went Mainstream it happens to great artists
@@LembeckIsStaying American Ganster?
I want to see this, and if it ever happens, IDGAF, I’ll be in that building. But if it ain’t them two, I honestly feel like HOV and Snoop would’ve been a great battle. Snoop has a great catalog and is a great stage performer. He’s not as lyrical as HOV in his later years but he has a lot of classic hits. And HOV couldn’t bully him on stage with jokes cause Snoop is funny then a mothafucka. 20 v 20 I think that would be a great match. Imagine if HOV did New York State of Mind and then Snoop did New York New York, that shit would EPIC 😂
When you condense Jay catalog to 20 records, it’s gonna be tough to beat, especially with him being a dope performer, he has everything, radio hits, classic features, anthems, cult classics, classic album cuts even classic songs he wrote for others, but it would be dope seeing them on stage together playin they records.
Nas play ether and he wins
@@king_vision4085 why you on everyone comments talking about ether, his not playing it, beef was 20 years ago
Please remind them smh 🤦🏽♂️
Hov play encore feat Lincoln pk🔥🔥🔥🔥Anthem
@@RexT3rra lol. Hov aint playing that garbage. Jay will get run out the building once nas plays The message to counter that.😅
Nas
Interesting convo.Very Engaging.
After Nas plays his diss record last he wins.
If Nas starts with the intro to his streets disciple album it's over nail in the coffin ⚰️💀
Nas wins! I don't know if y'all been to Nas concert brother puts on! And where I'm from Jay-Z street credit in late 90's was questionable. Some say that's why they signed beans and the philly boys. Jay got the sales. Nas is different, in my opinion Nas skills are unmatched by no one!
what street cred Nas got??? 🤔 what work he put in?
@@sc84_ 🤣🤣🤣 ppl just say shit to fit “their narrative” smh
@@bxboro4662 they ‘street dreamin’ 😂
@@sc84_ well some people do street dream but people in the streets where I'm from and not all always felt Nas could relate to street life better and more importantly could make the track feel relatable.
@@dre3505 Nas was a good kid growing up he wasn’t no gangsta or sold dope he was like a hood narrator and a poet that rapped about the things he saw in his hood and growing up Jay on the other hand was in the streets moving weight been in shoot outs and it has been confirmed by ogs from his hood I like them both but facts is facts Nas and ice cube weren’t gangsters they just knew how to tell a story/tale about the hood
It's not about age or generations, it's about content! Jay-Z vs Nas would be a far bigger draw than J-Cole vs Kendrick.
Yo! This would be the ultimate versus battle Nas and Hove fire 🔥
Jay's hits is alot of features
The best versus would be Jay vs Ll
Easy answer.
More hood/men crowd = NAS WIN
More women/pop crowd = JAY Z WIN
If Ether is allowed = NAS WIN
If not = JAY Z WIN
If super ugly allowed Jay wins
ya theres no comeback and nothing Jay can do if pulls out ether.
@@fredr3247 thats a lie, he could reignite the whole shit, and drop a fresh couple bars on the spot.
@@KrsPDior as if nas cant do the same. Super ugly is not even close to ether. Stop.
@@alpz5939 it took Nas 3 months to write that, Jay hit nas next night with fresh bars. Track record Hov got the edge on nas for freestyling ability Nas pen game strong but in a battle off top of the head Jay takes it everytime.
YES MATH !!!!!! COOK TOPIC !!!!!!!
I want to throw in on this contribution on this in a legit barber shop in every one of these conversations.
I highly doubt kanye would stand in the background for Hov at this point.. dude is wayyyy too into his own mythology to ever do that.
Yes he would! 😂😂😂 he was crying on stage about jay not calling him
Nas got this one. Jay Z represents a symbol Nas represents Da Streetz.
“Da Streetz” 🤡🤡🤡🤡
streets mean nothing without substance and mainstream hits.Ja Rule proved that yesterday.
@@elliot2177 facts
Verzuz ain't a streets lane. It's for club cats and chicks, that's not Nas lane.
Siiiicho ass DOWN!!
The powers that be and the system engineers would be the only ones to benefit from these Icons. They don’t need to entertain these entities.. and create more distractions for society. They left all their love and passion and the track for these past decades.. blessed to love hip hop and rap. .. and understand its development…
NAS
Peace Hoffa.to me it depends on what mood I'm in that's who I listen to but they on the same level of greatness to me.
Nas and KRS-1 go up against each other in versus Battle. That's the battle to see.
I don't think anybody wants smoke KRS in a performance battle. He'll have people who don't even know his catalogue like that saying he won lol!!!
@@enlightenmenttv2287 FACTS!
KRS doesn't have 20 chart topping hits! Yes, he's a great lyricist and battle rapper but that's not what versus is all about. It's not a freestyle competition, its radio hit after hit after hit! You need 20 bangers my guy! Nas would body him after the first 3 songs! "Ether", "Nastradamus" and "If I ruled the world"! Its over after that!
@@cresswellchipman2533 If it was like how it was when they were just playing the songs with no live audience i would agree. But now that they've changed the format it's different. The Lox proved that in the Dipset battle. Plus the fact that with the live audience factor you would have people their that are familiar with KRS catalouge. It totally changes the perception, but yeah if we're talking just song for song, Nas SHOULD win.
@@cresswellchipman2533 is that what the Lox did ???? How many people have 20 actual hits ?
Nas has more masterpieces Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, God's Son, And Life Is Good
I raise you Reasonable Doubt, Hard Knock Life, Black Album, American Gangster, Blueprint, 4:44
@@bigcohiba298 not better than Nas ones
@@DonBienveRosario15 your opinion gee
@@bigcohiba298 facts, respect to Hov but he know
@@DonBienveRosario15 know what? Jay overall has a better body of work and I'm not even going to talk about features
Love um both at least at one point of time anyway but Nas has ALWAYS been better than Jay-Z in my opinion. Don't get me wrong Jay-Z is nice or at least he used to be and still has his moments but has never ever been better than Nas
Em ,Royce, 50, Nas, Benny, Cole, Kendrick, Thought, Tobe, Jada,