S2E29 Wave Rover Uses a New Method of Applying the 18oz Bi-axial Fiberglass
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- A crack team of helpers assembles for this big glassing job. The 18oz bi-axial Fiberglass is applied over the robust fillet we shaped in the last episode. Peel ply is used for the first time in the project. A lot to do ... time to watch.
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My friend ... your videos are so helpfull. .. am restoring a 1954 classic 20 ft sailboat... i have been checking youtube so much to find helpfull instructive vdo s ..... well Yours are ...Great !!!
When your skills of expertise as a naval officer, journeyman carpenter and boat builder come to fruition--the possibilities of you becoming a plastic surgeon are readily on the horizon.
Your precision, Alan, is impeccable and you don't miss a detail. Well done on that boat!
D.
Thanks as always for your kind words my friend.
The beer is especially satisfying at the end of a hard working day. Cheers
Another nice Thursday evening. Hope you enjoyed a good beer after getting don with this. Best wishes to all.
I've watched all your series over the last couple of years.
There's something good and wholesome about you and your adventures. Thank you for making the effort!
Thanks for the comment
Good work Alan. A messy, sticky job and a nice result.
With the sea shanties as soundtrack, I am reminded of other shanties like "Haul the bowline" or "Rolling home". And because my parents hat an LP back in the time with sea shanties, I am also reminded of me as a child drinking a five-o'clock-tea (not a beer o'clock though) in the living room during early dark winter evenings.
Rolling Down to Old Maui!... and don't forget The Dreadnought!!!
What a great way to start the day off Alan. A big day indeed ! Congratulations on achieving this benchmark in the Wave Rover 650 build out.
Here on the Chesapeake Bay, the beer is now cheaper than gasoline due to world wide affairs...so drink don't drive is the standing order of the day after a well done job.
Good advice my friend
Really enjoying watching you build your boat. Learning a lot. 😁
Thanks 👍
Interesting build and great tunes too!
Hi Allan. Making good progress I see. Your viewers might like to know peel ply is also generally available in narrow rolls - usually 4”, 6”, 8”, 10” widths or similar, designed for this exact job. Very handy. Though your 10” wide glass would probably prefer 12” wide peel ply - not sure if it comes that wide. The overlap I find enables a smoother transition from glass tape to hull as you can squeegee out the excess resin from under the fg tape edge and the pp, which then lies flat onto the surface below smoothing out the loose fibre edges = less sanding! And less sanding is good! Very good! 😮💨
I have to say I’m not a fan of pre-wetting myself ; ) unless I’m working in a difficult to access place. It’s more difficult to manage, with a sloppy wet roll to control in one hand, while trying to lay it out straight with the other etc. And it sets off much quicker since you have a concentrated amount in your hand getting warmer by the minute. Not ideal, particularly for warmer temps. I’ve had it go off in minutes, even with slow hardener.
An alternative method is to use a disposable 4” paint roller and roll a liberal layer of resin along the joint, (enough to ensure you don’t starve the ply, but not so much that it runs) then roll out the dry glass, which adheres nicely to the resin and sits just where you want it and in minutes soaks up any excess resin creating great contact between ply and glass. Then once all rolled out, follow up with the resin and roller which both saturates the glass and removes bubbles etc. With a little practice you soon get a feel for just how much resin to leave in the glass. Then roll the peel ply on and squeegee out any excess resin, which usually is little once you done it a couple of times, and not so much as needs picking up off the ply. The down side is your roller can set of as well but making sure you work as much of the “old” resin out of the roller as you go usually extends its life long enough to get the job done. I use a wide paint roller tray to spread out the mixed epoxy and hence reduce the warming feedback loop and extend the life of the mix, and also enable filling the roller with epoxy. The bonus here is also if you’re working by yourself it’s a more controllable step by step process - finish one run, start another…. Keep up the good work. Cheers
I have now done it both ways and I can see the pros/cons. If I'm by myself working with a roller makes sense but this 18oz bi axial really soaked the stuff up, but did it on the exterior. A team really lightens the approach. Good point concerning the heating up. Not a big concern for another few weeks for me, lol.
Great to get your input, I wished you lived a little closer. If you are planning on a little vacation to PEI I would appreciate the hand (I know that it is a bit of a drive from NZ)
@@RoversAdventure Yeah I hear you... I worked with 810gsm (about 28 oz) triaxial on the arm beam ends of the tri I'm building, and it's like laying carpet!! Having a crew on the job would make it a lot easier. Mate I'd be there in heart beat. I'm totally addicted to boat building, just don't tell my wife. She thinks the present one is my last... mmm maybe. Cheers
Coming along nicely👍great to see Mrs Rover working on the project 💯stay safe you guys and thanks so much for bringing us along💯
Just found this video and i gotta say this is pretty cool. cant wait to see more
Welcome aboard!
Although some segments could be 2x speed, I commend your editing crew for their choices of musical accompaniment.
The volume is ideal for absorbing your play-by-play description... without overwhelming the action.
Nice work!
beautiful work again!
Excellent video documenting your great work. Well done Allan and of course thank you to Mrs Rover and your rooster :)
Thanks for the kind words as always my friend.
Awesome project! I've been sort of following you a bit and love your ingenuity. I've done a lot of laminating with 1708 biaxial on the refit of our Westsail 32 and I had a thought for you. Even though you saturated it before laying it (great idea), the plywood will soak up some of the resin. I always wet out the surface I'm laminating before applying the cloth. In general this is a good idea. Even before filleting I do this. It's a simple step to quickly paint epoxy with a brush. Always have great results and nothing has ever delaminated for me. Great progress and I hope you take this boat even further! Cheers :)
Yes, it's a good precaution. I prewet the surface on the exterior and always before the fillets. The cloth was literally dripping with epoxy but will prewet in the future.
I wondered about that with these products.
Other materials lifted off my work, drying before curing, so I also soak prior to laying.
Got here from comments on Sven Yrvind and his Exlex 6m solo RTW build.
He is using 3" Divyncell(sp?) foam.
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During a demonstration, he shows the elasticity of one product on the exterior, then a Kevlar-type product on the interior.
Logically, the tougher material ought to be on the outside, but experimentation shows an energy-absorbing cushion spreads an impact -- from rocks, Conex -- instead of deforming at the impact point.
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I am learning as we go...
Check if the Irish Rovers music is copy-free…the fact that you got any glassing accomplished over the winter is a testament to your commitment. Most wait for warmer temps. Then again Canadians are winter hardy.
Fantastic work! That was huge and hard work! Love the shanties, way better than current pop music if you ask me.
Boat wood sail build cool float ocean thing. All hail the algorithm.
I highly recommend the EC Cutter or another brand of electric scissors. It cuts the glass and peel-ply lime a hot knife through butter.
I’ve used white vinegar to clean my tools-when I remember😂
I tell people that you don't save money building your old boat. It's a spiritual experience to see the hull take shape under your own efforts.
Well said and so true!
Did you pre wet where the preset biaxial goes or is it necessary.?
Yes, always pre wet the surface
Alan. Is There anyone else build this Wave Rover? Have you thought anymore on the Flotation? Just a Question could you take and Kevlar fiberglass the inside to make it Stronger and just put a Waterproof Sealcap to make it Water proof? I was told Kevlar does flex. Thanks. Gory
There are now 16 sets of Wave Rover Plans sold. Out of that number, 3 are under construction and a number more will start this summer when the weather warms up.
I'm still considering about the flotation. I won't be using any kevlar as I don't have any but the hull will be very strong with normal material.
Crack on....beer o'clock......nicely done.
I call epoxy glass work,life on the icky sticky!! Uhh, you could wet out the glass on poly backing sheet! Lay out the whole thing on the area to be glassed and you can get the glass adhered and peel the backing off then roll it!
This boat greatly resembles a Vivacity 650
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A half-hour north of us, Corvallis has Vivacity Distillery.
Their sipping gin, organic and made of only Oregon ingredients, is so smooth...
Did you wet out the plywood first? in some of the shots it looked like you did and others it didn't.
The fg was really saturated, so plywood didn't need any wetting out.
@@RoversAdventure - Hmmm.. can't really say I'm sold on that concept. Most people say wetting out the plywood is necessary, *even though* the f/g is saturated.
@@Garryck-1 I have changed it up again and am wetting out and still using the saturated glass (just less so).
@@RoversAdventure - Good to hear. My understanding is that if the plywood isn't wetted out first, it can absorb epoxy from the glass, causing a poor bond which can later result in delamination issues.
@@Garryck-1 Absolutely, I 'm using hardwood veneer ply which absorbs less than softwood, but best to be sure for the 650.
Vinegar works but it breaks down the uncured epoxy as an opposite to alcohol or acetone which act like a thiner. So, you need to be careful to not get vinegar on your work if you use it for cleaning tools.
Thanks for the very clear explanation.
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