@M if you love it so much. Why the hell are you calling it "soccer" it's Futball. Futbol. Football. Not that other word. It'd make your point better with the "it's the most popular sport" by calling it it's actual name.
@@Figs3 it’s a troll account it comments on every sports videos like this just to make u angry it’s been on AFL NBA baseball golf and everyone best thing u can do is report it for spam
@M football is boring as fuck, watched it when i was like 15 years old. NBA, UFC and NFL are leagues above it. Most people think pop music is good, doesn't mean it is the best music genre. since when does the opinion of the masses matter. most people are idiots with sheep mentality. And i'm from europe ... playing football is fun but watching it is boring. field is too big and 11 men are too many
Laimbeer was an example of that Dave Chappelle joke about how the odd white dude rolling with a black gang is the most dangerous one there because he must've done something to earn their respect.
Clem Cornpone 1. It’s a Dave Chapelle joke. 2. You decided to make the connection to cheating and gaining black peoples respect. Sounds like you have a preconceived stereotype of black people being cheaters. 3. Shut the fuck up.
Armando De Los Santos LMAO that’s funny. Steve Kerr got them playing great. Marc Jackson would never have won a chip with them - stop being so ignorant
He was almost prophetic here, talking about how tough it is to maintain that hunger to compete for titles year after year. As great as the Dubs winning 3 titles was, getting to the finals 5 years in a row was just as impressive, especially in the Western Conference.
Ernie is the coolest dude. Just a regular guy, with a love of the game. Love how he gets these guys together and he knows as much, if not more than they do. #OpenCourt4Life!
I’m kind of shocked they didn’t mention either the Seattle Supersonics, or the Portland trailblazers. Both excellent squads. Really exciting to watch as well.
Huge Jordan fan, but I’m thankful for the bad boys. They weren’t afraid of him, and they made him earn everything he got. Was good for Michael. Was good for the sport. True battles.
if you watch the dream team documentary from a few years back they say that Isaiah not shaking the bulls hands did not look good and factored into the decision
89-94 Ewing should be talked about more. He had style and had the stat to prove it. one would have to say that Olajuwon stood out more in the 94 finals but it went seven games and the Knicks were in it for most of it in game seven despite John Starks. It was a legit a series as any but Kenny seems to have forgotten that.
@Dani G80 No other Hall of Famer did more with less. Every great one who won a championship had a fellow Hall of Famer/All Star on their team. Ewing had, at best, an above average supporting cast.
@@ninowaves4061 The Knicks' small ball lineup helped them beat the Pacers in the ECF when Ewing was injured so they prolly don't even get to the finals with Ewing. He was old at that time. In his prime he really shoulda had that second guy to help him win and it's a shame he didn't. If he had a Pippen, Kemp, Stockton, Kevin Johnson or Dan Majerle, he woulda won like 1-2 rings
@@troymatinca6484 unlimited potential....ability and potential to be one of the best to ever play the game. Watching him elevate on the way to the bucket, he had crazy vertical....
Real talk, they could have beat the Bulls. Chicago's only flaw was matching up against elite bigs, which they never had to do outside of Ewing. Shaq and Grant destroyed them in '95, which is why they got Rodman. Olajuwon would have given them fits if they matched in the Finals.
The biggest reason the bulls got beat in 1995 by magic in the playoffs and swept them in return the next yr is because of addition of Dennis rodman. Can't believe Kerr didn't mention that. Also Horace grant was out during the magic bulls series in 1996 except for the first game. The interior presence was far more crucial back then than in today's games
grant wouldn't have changed the result. more than having rodman, what bulls had was way better chemistry than they did the season before. when MJ came back, only pippen and BJ were part of the 1993 roster. no one else knew how to play with MJ yet and with just 17 games left, the bulls had no time to learn how to play as a team.
I thoroughly enjoy watching all of the Open Courts. It's interesting listening to former players reflect on where the game has come from and reminisce about when they played.
The 95-96 Chicago Bulls defeated the Houston Rockets 100 to 86 and 98 to 87 in the two games they played against each other in the regular season, so I don't know why Kenny is trying to act like they didn't have any difficulty playing against the Bulls.
We naturally associate toughness and physicality with defense (not pretty, grunt work), and associate offense with aesthetics and grace (poetry in motion). A defense first team (Detroit, early Spurs, and Knicks) usually was characterized as being tough and usually was a villain-like character compared to offensive teams (Bulls, Magic, to a lesser extent Rockets) who were favorites.
lol what's funny is that if you've watched Suns vs Spurs in Steve Nash's era, you'd see that the Spurs kept the bad boys tactics somewhat WAY after the rule changes. I personally find that more dirty given the context lol.
bulla werent am offencive team At all. and in there second 3peat even less they Had the lowest pase in the league, bull was all about defence. phoenix, portland, lakers, seattle, miami, charlotte, cavs, and golden state were the offencive minset temas un the 90s
You can't talk about 90s basketball without mentions Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton and the Seattle super Sonics. Shawn Kemp threw down some monstrous dunks. there were a couple years when they won a lot of games and they were exceptionally good. If Shawn Kemp didn't make questionable lifestyle choices...? Eitherway, you have to recognise Kemp in the 90 s.
@@pman8478 nope. As a huge sonic fan during that era we couldn't beat the bulls. I think what really hurt was the fact we never did get a good center like Alonzo, Ewing,or rick smits to round out our team.
The Sonics couldn’t beat the Bulls, so their chance was the years when the Rockets won. Had they kept their cool, they could have won those 2 championships. And as Kenny The Jet said: they had their number
And to this day Orlando Magics still rue the time they declined that Shaq contract extension. This close to become a new dynasty, instead the history of the team filling up with "what if" tell tales.
MJ and Pippen were determined to sweep Orlando because of how the beat them the year prior. I knew they were gonna be done when they lifted Horace Grant on their shoulders. MJ and Pippen were fuming. Shaq did good the leave cause MJ was gonna burn them the rest of thier career.
I genuinely hated the Pistons for sure but the talent is undeniable. Laimbeer would do well now I think, tall, tough, can defend, good rebounder, and an excellent pick and pop shooter even out to the 3.
this why jordan was so great, he won all thos rings without ever having a good big man on his team...almost every other champ had that big man to dominate..., and during jordans riegn the nba had the most and best big men
arlichar11 he did have absolute lockdown defenders on his team tho especially during the last 3 peat. Harper, Jordan pippen and rodman could probably stop some teams playing 4v5 lol.
Michael Jeffrey Jordan will always be the goat and there will be no conversation ever so it ended for me a long time ago Jordan will always be number one in my book for ever
There's a Legend sitting right there with them, looking back at this video. This segment was taken JUST before Steve Kerr took the head coaching job for the Golden State Warriors. 6 Championships in 8 years, right after this. That's pretty incredible, you ask me.
@@DuaneWiseChristian Yes, but over whom? Stockton? They had even numbers 2 SG, 2 PG, 6FWd, 2C. Do they add Isiah and make uneven numbers? Or do they bump Stockton? I don't know if there was a limit to the roster for Olympic play.
Great conversations about guys we watched growing up! Wonderful concept for the players to share, and the fans to get a little (fascinating) insight from the players perspective.
Thanks for putting these vids up I love the convos they have. Its always gratifying to have the chance to hear and see these pioneers of the game. It's a shame we didn't have that chance with players from decades further back.
You could be a role player but have a vast knowledge of the game. Just like you can say not all great players know how to win as an executive/owner. i.e. Jordan Derek Jeter etc etc
That was a good one Ernie: "They were broken up by Michael Jordan playing baseball." He knows like everyone else knows that if Jordan would have played all 8 years he would have won 8 rings.
I say they would have won 8 chips, but most likely not in a row. We forget that in 93, Jordan and Pippen were tired because they weren't able to rest during the summer before. Unless they were able to get good rest during that summer, they would not have won in 93-94. They would've won in 94-95 and 98-99.
@@paliboy93 .... Think about this, the season was shortened to 50 games in 98-99. Scotty Pippen played all 82 games that season and his numbers were great. Jordan would have gotten the proper rest he needed, along with the others, and they would've killed. The title SA won that year was a fluke. They were almost swept the very next year in the first round by Phoenix.
Not even close. Those days of strong mental and physical men is dearly missed. Don’t think it will ever be like that again with all this technology that makes life so much easier. Not to mention the monetary value of a business, team or player nowadays make the minds of players lazier.
TDS today game is better - stop lying to yourself. The league was full of brutes back then why were only in the league because toughness. Now players (bar very very few) are in cause of skill
Can't they just get MJ to come and sit? It must be annoying for all who played with/against him to tell stories of him. It's like Pippen who's always asked about MJ, or Alfonso Ribeiro asked about Will Smith, etc
MJ's big headed and thinks he's too good to be with these guys on a show. So he wants everyone to talk about him like he's some legendary essence. Which he is, but he's still a dick. I doubt LeBron will be like that when he retires.
Ivan Ci lol you’re right but my point is he’s been retired for how long now? Does he really need that same mentality when he’s not hoopin and a billionaire? Why not just give the fans what they wanna see and talk with these guys...id love to see that competitive spirit on here when he roasts everyone 😂 would be cool if he wore all 6 of his rings on the show too.
@@Balal8281 It's who he is, its not a matter of does he need it or not. It's who he is, he doesn't need to change for anyone so he just remains the way he is.
One of the best teams not to win it is the early 90s Portland Trailblazers and they don't get recognized. 63-19 season And Clyde Drexler was a similar player to Jordan
Those Blazer teams NEVER get any love on Open Court, and that's a drag. They were the best team in the West for 3 years and you never hear anyone talk about them or Clyde, etc. Ernie even tried to open the door for them in the final segment and they never got a mention from the panel. I know they didn't win a title, but those were some great teams that everyone had issues with. That 90-91 team you mentioned that went 63-19 beat Chicago handedly in two blowouts that season. They got upended in the conference finals to the Lakers, but that year was their big missed opportunity to win one before Michael figured it out.
the blazers would have won titles in 1990 and 1992 if they didn't have to face 2 of the greatest teams of all time. they also lost in 1991 in the WCF to lakers. the early 90s blazers could have won a title in any of those seasons, but they had to face those 3 teams.
Na, Kenny Smith was clutch during those two Title runs and he was a starter. Much more solidified than Barry and Kerr, who were never starters on a championship team.
Kenny is a champion, So he speaks as a champion. Is he in that higher echelon of nba greats? No, but he was huge in the winning of those championships.
This is one of my favorite sports shows all about the game of basketball where legends and hall of fame great players share their thoughts, stories and perspectives about their playing days and games as well as on a variety of topics in the league. God bless them all for doing this.
That's what I was saying watching this Charles, Shaq, and Reggie starred on those teams. Everyone in that room except Zeke were roleplayers. Kenny Smith is hilarious to me. We wouldn't know who he was without TNT.
Doward Washington I beg your pardon? Kenny was the second option on that Rockets team for the first championship run. He was instrumental in their system, and was even a candidate for the MVP award in 1991 season. He was a popular player even competing in a dunk contest. Which is why he regularly judges the contest post career. When did you start following the game? Those of us who grew up in the 80's and 90's know The Jet very well.
I agree. There was no propaganda. They were straight up dirty. He should own up to it. And... He shouldn't regret not shaking hands. He should flat out say, we hated them, they hated us, Fuck em, we're not shaking their hands.
I disagree with Kenny, I believe the Bulls with Jordan would've beat the Rockets in '94. Why? Because it took the Knicks 7 games to beat a Bulls team without Jordan. It took the eventual champion Rockets 7 games to beat those Knicks. To say Jordan wouldn't have made a difference is foolish. The core of the '93-'94 Bulls team was the same but they also added Kukoc.
Edmond Lau yea if not for that blown call they'd have beaten the Knicks and then played a 5th seeded pacer te am. They had a legit chance at the finals without Jordan With Jordan it's a wrap
@@kanyeeast4162 yeah right, they were 2-6 against Olajuwon in those 3 peat years and the Bulls don't have a Patrick Ewing to block 31 of the rockets shots, so Olajuwon would've dusted the bulls bigs and would've avg 4s and 5b a game
@THE Rattler Ewing ain't Olajuwon tho, and Ewing took them to games 6 and 7 by himself! And I meant 2-6 in the early 90's but that don't even matter cuz Olajuwon was 11-5 against Jordan for their first 9 seasons! It was their styles that made Olajuwon Jordans cryptonite, he made Jordan 1 dimensional and on the other end he was completely unstoppable even with double and triple teams! When Phil had the balls to double Olajuwon, he was averaging like 7 assists a game passing off the dribble and passing after jumping to shoot! Jordans game was drive to the basket for a dunk or layup and pull up mid-range over the smaller defender! Olajuwon owned the paint from all the way out to about 17ft from any direction and he would block jump shots not just layups! Not only that he would get like 4 steals a game on the Bulls and even if he didn't get the block he changed every players layup about 50% of the time! And since Jordan already took about 25 shots a game, he would have to take 30 shots against the Rockets so nobody else could kill them while focusing on Jordan. Don't forget Jordan avg like 35p on the Rockets but he usually lost by double digits! I'm not making this shit up
Funk is correct. Pistons got a lot of flack, pbly in large part due to being at the top, and dethroning the beloved Celtics. So they had a ton of attention on them right from the start.
@FUNKSTAPPUHHH LOL I saw a highlight where Xavier McDaniel literally took an elbow to the face while going up. Dude dunked it and stared the guy down like nothing happened. The game was so much tougher back then.
I agree. He got frustrated because Kenny saw through his weak attempt to mask their over the top rough play by giving a slight intellectual perspective.
Isiah still oozes with jealousy of Michael Jordan. It shows you how competitive 80s - 90s ball was compared to now. Dudes still don't talk today and it's been 30 years lol
So glad the Bulls swept the Pistons and ended the "bad boys" era. There is physical and then there is dirty, that's what the Pistons were. Not shaking hands pretty much sealed his exclusion from the Dream Team. At that time, Michael Jordan had just won back to back championships and was still on the rise. The NBA was expanding onto the world stage and needed Jordan as their ambassador to NBA basketball. If Jordan said he wasn't going to play if Thomas was on the team, who do you think was going to win that one?
they weren't dirty dumbass I watched 80s basketball. They just got in teams' heads better so everyone wanted to fight them and in turn got dealt with, but every team played physical and threw the occasional jab or slap in the 80s. Celtics were no different, neither were the Lakers against the Pistons in the finals.
So right! Hakeem was clearly the best player during those years. Clearly the best defender and atleast 2nd to 3rd best offensive big. Just look what The Dream did to young Shaq, prime Ewing and mvp Robinson!
As a ‘90s Rockets fan I can’t believe they didn’t mention the Portland Trailblazers (went to two NBA Finals), the Seattle SuperSonics and the early ‘90s Spurs. Those teams helped define the West in the early to mid ‘90s. And yes, the Rockets would have between the Bulls pre-‘96, but not after that.
Whoa! The shade 😎 that Isiah throws at the mailman mailman darkens the room 😳. He calls him a weak link in the playoffs in Piston match ups which prevented Utah from winning rings. And, Kenny Smith seconded the motion of Malone's ineptitude against the Rockets. Ouch! Huge charges against Malone which were backed up by Pippen saying that the Mailman does not deliver on Sunday. 🤔
Isiah Thomas thinks Karl Malone was the weak link on Utah lolol. He must still be bitter about getting hit in the face by him. Malone was the MVP of the league in 1997. Sure he missed a couple of free throws and didn't play well at times in the finals but w/o Karl Malone the Jazz aren't even CLOSE to being a championship contender in the 90's. There was no weak link on the Jazz in 1997 or 1998... they just ran into the Jordan and the Bulls
Someone noticed from those 97-98 teams. I didnt feel that Malone was the weak link. Someone said that the reason that the Jazz lost to Chicago those 2 finals was because besides Malone, they didnt have a lot of big guys that can play and the defense had the worst matchups. Hornacek guarding Pippen. Russell on Jordan. Osterbag sucked and if they had other good bigmen off the bench to play defense besides Malone. They probably beat the Bulls. Stockton and Malone were doing everything most of the time.
Johnny Most was his name. If you can find the rockets vs celtics finals game five when Ralph sampson got into a fight with Jerry sichting, listen to it. He sounded like he wanted to go on the court and punch Sampson
the fact that mj is the goat is because of his... consistency efficiency leadership and his artistry in fadeaway plus the shooting percentage made the difference. and this separate mj from the rest.
AL bro do you realize how hard it is to win a ring? let alone 2 or 3 back to back??. i think jordan winning 6 rings back to back to back no losses was mainly Skill equated with Luck. legitimately all it takes is one person, one player to say something along the lines of ‘look as long as im on this court. im winning a championship, mike or no mike out there’ because in all actuality its all a mindset look at the best players dead or alive.
Even MJ said they had no answer for Hakeem Olajuwon. The Bulls would have been broken down and tired if they went 5 years in a row in the finals. Let alone 8.
Isiah would've been a GREAT lawyer.He just have a way of trying to convince you of his BS while making it sound believable.Then throws the smile in to fool the jury.
30:24 Well Isiah, I know you hate Scottie and you have an inner dislike for Michael Jordan as well, but Dennis Rodman was coloring his hair and all that even during Spurs days which was before the Bulls, so no thats not correct
Isaiah has spent his entire life playing a victim. If he would have just owned the hare he took, he could have moved on. He and his team played dirty, everybody played rough but they played dirty. He should have just said we did what it took to win. I am not the ref. He also was low key bitter about MJ taking over his town of Chicago.
From 31.00 onwards: That is why you always need to hear all versions in cases of human conflict. I should add to what Isahia said restrospectively: they should have act differently not only because of civility but also because they should have foreseen that the image of them leaving like that would remain in the minds of the people and they would swiftly pass judgement without knowing the reasons. of that decision.
Isaiah Thomas said it best. Detroit knew Jordan wasn't a team player and didn't need to worry about the rest of the team and could focus on Jordan alone. Phil made a team around Jordan.
What the hell is dennis scott talking about at 21:44? Jerry west didnt get rid of everyone but two players the entire starting five with the exception of vlade came back. Corie blount , van exel, eddie jones, ceballos, all returned for the 96-97 season. Get your facts right 3D!
I definitely wouldn't mind seeing MJ on this type of show. But he doesn't show too much open enthusiasm from what I've seen of him when he makes appearances. Many years ago on an Oprah interview, MJ seemed to be irritated by Sir Charles egging him a bit when they sat together during that interview.
@@ObamaSon96 you can't say that, the Lakers were the worst, old and injured. Pippen admitted that. 93 Barkley was the MVP and was able to score on Pippen. KJ was a problem, so was Dan Marley. Also, they almost forced a game 7, they loss game 6 in heartbreaking fashion, Paxton 3-pointer
One of the coolest episode ideas would be these guys talking about the players who left us too early. Pistol Pete, Len Bias, Drazen Petrovic, Malik Sealy (get KG on for that one). Could have made for an interesting and deep episode.
I would love that. The biggest for me is Bias, even Jordan had recognized a kindred spirit it seems. The early 90s Bulls Celtics rivalry would have been something freaking else.
@@grizkrelez I had forgotten about Reggie (who is yet another huuuge what if), you're right man they would have been running and gunning, and possibly allowed Bird and McHale to extend their careers a bit.
Kenny was talking about the summer of 1995 when Jordan was filming Space Jam. The Magic beat the Bulls in the 1995 playoffs. Shaq didn't leave Orlando that summer. It was the summer of 1996. The 72-10 Bulls swept the Magic in the 1996 playoffs and then Shaq left.
Grant Hill: "We were the bad boys, but we were bad in a different way" lol
Isaiah: i'll be the angry black man
Ernie: thats my role!
He lite skeen
@M stfu….why come on an nba video
@M if you love it so much. Why the hell are you calling it "soccer" it's Futball. Futbol. Football. Not that other word. It'd make your point better with the "it's the most popular sport" by calling it it's actual name.
@@Figs3 it’s a troll account it comments on every sports videos like this just to make u angry it’s been on AFL NBA baseball golf and everyone best thing u can do is report it for spam
@M football is boring as fuck, watched it when i was like 15 years old. NBA, UFC and NFL are leagues above it. Most people think pop music is good, doesn't mean it is the best music genre. since when does the opinion of the masses matter. most people are idiots with sheep mentality. And i'm from europe ... playing football is fun but watching it is boring. field is too big and 11 men are too many
Love these shows. Ernie Johnson is the coolest to not play. You can tell he hangs around these guys off camera.
H&L Minds doubt it
LOL
He's the ultimate work friend
He's been working TNT basketball since the 80s.
Ernie got that All Access Hood Pass...hes at all the cookouts
Laimbeer was an example of that Dave Chappelle joke about how the odd white dude rolling with a black gang is the most dangerous one there because he must've done something to earn their respect.
lolol
Clem Cornpone you are for sure a white person
Clem Cornpone fuck off is it racist it’s a Dave Chapelle joke grow up and shut up
Clem Cornpone
1. It’s a Dave Chapelle joke.
2. You decided to make the connection to cheating and gaining black peoples respect. Sounds like you have a preconceived stereotype of black people being cheaters.
3. Shut the fuck up.
killerecho I agree 💯% Laimbeer was the 🃏!!
Barry hit so many big shots for the spurs. Great player
Yessir
these are the greatest thing to come to youtube
who would've thought that Steve Kerr would go on to win 3 more championships as a coach.
That team belongs to Marc Jackson
@@armandodelossantos736 no
Armando De Los Santos LMAO that’s funny. Steve Kerr got them playing great. Marc Jackson would never have won a chip with them - stop being so ignorant
I was pretty sure he'd go on to coach, knowing what his father did for a living.
He was almost prophetic here, talking about how tough it is to maintain that hunger to compete for titles year after year. As great as the Dubs winning 3 titles was, getting to the finals 5 years in a row was just as impressive, especially in the Western Conference.
Isiah: "Im gonna be the angry black man."
Ernie: "That's my role!"
Ernie for president.
Ernie is the coolest dude. Just a regular guy, with a love of the game. Love how he gets these guys together and he knows as much, if not more than they do.
#OpenCourt4Life!
This is the greatest basketball show on youtube. Love watching these episodes all the time. Miss those 90's goddamn..
I love these too. I used to watch them with my dad when he was still alive.
I’m kind of shocked they didn’t mention either the Seattle Supersonics, or the Portland trailblazers. Both excellent squads. Really exciting to watch as well.
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Great point. Both teams don't make the Finals without being one on the top teams of the 90's
There were so many good squads in the 90s
Brent mentioned the Super Sonics
For the sake of time, I think this episode focused on the teams that get it done, who won it all.
Huge Jordan fan, but I’m thankful for the bad boys. They weren’t afraid of him, and they made him earn everything he got. Was good for Michael. Was good for the sport. True battles.
💯💯💯
if you watch the dream team documentary from a few years back they say that Isaiah not shaking the bulls hands did not look good and factored into the decision
89-94 Ewing should be talked about more. He had style and had the stat to prove it. one would have to say that Olajuwon stood out more in the 94 finals but it went seven games and the Knicks were in it for most of it in game seven despite John Starks. It was a legit a series as any but Kenny seems to have forgotten that.
@Dani G80 No other Hall of Famer did more with less. Every great one who won a championship had a fellow Hall of Famer/All Star on their team. Ewing had, at best, an above average supporting cast.
Agreed…Ewing was a beast plus If he wasn’t hurt that 8th seed Knicks squad would of gave the spurs a run for there money.
Thank you! People forgot that '94 finals went 7 games and two legacies would be vastly different. Thanks a lot Starks 🤦♂️
Yup. The Knicks went on to lose by just 6 points with Starks having his worst game ever. Imagine if he just had a semi decent game.
@@ninowaves4061 The Knicks' small ball lineup helped them beat the Pacers in the ECF when Ewing was injured so they prolly don't even get to the finals with Ewing. He was old at that time. In his prime he really shoulda had that second guy to help him win and it's a shame he didn't. If he had a Pippen, Kemp, Stockton, Kevin Johnson or Dan Majerle, he woulda won like 1-2 rings
I absolutely love Ernie Johnson. I laughed my ass off with the angry black guy part, "hey that's my role!" He's a great host and patient mediatior.
Cerebral stuff, fun. It's sad seeing those clips of Penny. So graceful. Talk about a tragic career.
Farhad Sani A healthy Penny Hathaway was unstoppable
@@troymatinca6484 unlimited potential....ability and potential to be one of the best to ever play the game. Watching him elevate on the way to the bucket, he had crazy vertical....
Man if that dude could have stayed healthy. He was so fun to watch those first 2 years.
Grant Hill also
He had such a beautiful game. Unguardable style. He had this stutter - hop dribble thing he would do and just dissapere.
Kenny likes to think that THEY put a stop to Bulls championship streak. Lmao 🤣🤣🤣
Real talk, they could have beat the Bulls. Chicago's only flaw was matching up against elite bigs, which they never had to do outside of Ewing. Shaq and Grant destroyed them in '95, which is why they got Rodman. Olajuwon would have given them fits if they matched in the Finals.
@@BardelystheMagnificent94 they would’ve had grant
Of course, THEY can stop the bulls championship streak
"Now you got him in North Korea"... LOL
erin 😂😂😂 that was hilarious
The biggest reason the bulls got beat in 1995 by magic in the playoffs and swept them in return the next yr is because of addition of Dennis rodman. Can't believe Kerr didn't mention that. Also Horace grant was out during the magic bulls series in 1996 except for the first game. The interior presence was far more crucial back then than in today's games
William Chae YES!
William Chae Definitely. You're absolutely right.
William Chae Definitely. You're absolutely right.
Biggest reason was Jordan in baseball shape compared to basketball shape. His legs weren't strong enough to post guys up.
grant wouldn't have changed the result. more than having rodman, what bulls had was way better chemistry than they did the season before. when MJ came back, only pippen and BJ were part of the 1993 roster. no one else knew how to play with MJ yet and with just 17 games left, the bulls had no time to learn how to play as a team.
One of the BIG reasons the Bullz won there 2nd 3peat was the addition of Dennis #91 Rodman ...FACTS! 💯
No. 91
SO...
Rodman is the only reason they made it back to the finals again
Yeah that's correct. I don't think they would have even won a fourth title without Rodman.
@Mossimo Tiberi 94-97 steve kerr are some of the most outrageously good seasons for a role player ever.
God I miss the 90's
Man,u probably born '99
I was born in 1990 and i wish i was born in 1980 so i could live thru the 90's. #AMAZINGera
@@JayNit2 well, i mean, you did live through the 90s
@@Calilou52 yea i kno i just wish i coulda been older. I was born in 1990 i was a baby and didnt kno shit.
jay2018 you literally lived through the 90s
I really miss NBA open court bring it back PLEASE
I loved the Isiah, Steve Smith stuff here it's really beautiful. Everyone needs good mentors
I thoroughly enjoy watching all of the Open Courts. It's interesting listening to former players reflect on where the game has come from and reminisce about when they played.
The 95-96 Chicago Bulls defeated the Houston Rockets 100 to 86 and 98 to 87 in the two games they played against each other in the regular season, so I don't know why Kenny is trying to act like they didn't have any difficulty playing against the Bulls.
He was referring to the 91-93 Bulls, 5-1 against them. 96-98 Rockets vs Bulls 1-5.
@@CatharsisEffectThe Bulls without Jordan split the matchups with the Rockets from 93-95.
We naturally associate toughness and physicality with defense (not pretty, grunt work), and associate offense with aesthetics and grace (poetry in motion). A defense first team (Detroit, early Spurs, and Knicks) usually was characterized as being tough and usually was a villain-like character compared to offensive teams (Bulls, Magic, to a lesser extent Rockets) who were favorites.
lol what's funny is that if you've watched Suns vs Spurs in Steve Nash's era, you'd see that the Spurs kept the bad boys tactics somewhat WAY after the rule changes. I personally find that more dirty given the context lol.
The Bulls weren't really an offensive team, unlike say, the Lakers. They relied on their D to win championships.
Ellis Marcell
bulla werent am offencive team At all. and in there second 3peat even less they Had the lowest pase in the league, bull was all about defence.
phoenix, portland, lakers, seattle, miami, charlotte, cavs, and golden state were the offencive minset temas un the 90s
bulls weren't an offensive team. They were a defensive team. This is why pip don't get the credit. He dominated on defense and anchored it.
You can't talk about 90s basketball without mentions Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton and the Seattle super Sonics. Shawn Kemp threw down some monstrous dunks. there were a couple years when they won a lot of games and they were exceptionally good. If Shawn Kemp didn't make questionable lifestyle choices...? Eitherway, you have to recognise Kemp in the 90 s.
They were all mentioned .. Dos you watch the vid?
I think if kemp had kept it together the sonics probably win two championships
@@pman8478 nope. As a huge sonic fan during that era we couldn't beat the bulls. I think what really hurt was the fact we never did get a good center like Alonzo, Ewing,or rick smits to round out our team.
The Sonics couldn’t beat the Bulls, so their chance was the years when the Rockets won. Had they kept their cool, they could have won those 2 championships. And as Kenny The Jet said: they had their number
@@garygorospe5004 Barely; they didn't talk about how good the team was, or ask Steve Kerr about the 96 Finals, for example.
And to this day Orlando Magics still rue the time they declined that Shaq contract extension. This close to become a new dynasty, instead the history of the team filling up with "what if" tell tales.
Brian Fantana imagin him T-mac and Penny on the same team. Man they would have swept the hell outta the Rockets
Well, Penny would still become a shell of himself due to injuries.
Big Blue penny knees was done by the time tmac got to Orlando
MJ and Pippen were determined to sweep Orlando because of how the beat them the year prior. I knew they were gonna be done when they lifted Horace Grant on their shoulders. MJ and Pippen were fuming. Shaq did good the leave cause MJ was gonna burn them the rest of thier career.
@@TIMMYTRUITT All 3 years that remained of Shaq's career? What? You do remember Jordan played 3 years then retired again right?
Great job dude please keep uploading Open Court!!!! Thank you for these episodes that you uploaded
OG Hill off the break, quote "he trusted his teammates then." 5:15
I just miss when teams would overcome those rivalry humps.
Nowadays not so much
Love that Thomas kept bringing up lambeer with defending them he knows he’s the only guy who loves Bill so he defends him a real friend
I genuinely hated the Pistons for sure but the talent is undeniable. Laimbeer would do well now I think, tall, tough, can defend, good rebounder, and an excellent pick and pop shooter even out to the 3.
Incredible analyzing of the 90s and 80s basketball. Very group here able to break the game down in ways that no one else can.
this why jordan was so great, he won all thos rings without ever having a good big man on his team...almost every other champ had that big man to dominate..., and during jordans riegn the nba had the most and best big men
arlichar11 he did have absolute lockdown defenders on his team tho especially during the last 3 peat. Harper, Jordan pippen and rodman could probably stop some teams playing 4v5 lol.
arlichar11 how about Rodman? The best rebounder of all time
He had the greatest defensive and all around player on his team, Scottie Pippen .
So saying Rodman is in 91-93 Championship?
Michael Jeffrey Jordan will always be the goat and there will be no conversation ever so it ended for me a long time ago Jordan will always be number one in my book for ever
There's a Legend sitting right there with them, looking back at this video. This segment was taken JUST before Steve Kerr took the head coaching job for the Golden State Warriors. 6 Championships in 8 years, right after this. That's pretty incredible, you ask me.
Kerr is highly underrated in my opinion as a coach and player. That dude is and was a beast. I don't care what anybody says.
Isaiah Thomas really knows the game of basketball i love listening to him critique the game, players, etc.!
He is sharp, but he has an ego, and a jealous streak runs through him.
I think he’s still sore about not making the Dream Team and like him or hate him he should have been on that team, imho!
@@DuaneWiseChristian Yes, but over whom? Stockton? They had even numbers 2 SG, 2 PG, 6FWd, 2C. Do they add Isiah and make uneven numbers? Or do they bump Stockton? I don't know if there was a limit to the roster for Olympic play.
What a great time for basketball!!!Soooooooo many great teams and players!!!
The 90’s had the most NBA Super and All Stars in the history of the NBA! Facts!!!
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Great conversations about guys we watched growing up! Wonderful concept for the players to share, and the fans to get a little (fascinating) insight from the players perspective.
2:17 zeke: "no, imma be the angry black man"
ej: "that's *my* role" xD
This is an amazing segment, and Ernie absolutely crushed it.
I know some people think Brent's voice is too monotone, but I think his skills dissecting the players and the team's talent is very underrated
Thanks for putting these vids up I love the convos they have. Its always gratifying to have the chance to hear and see these pioneers of the game. It's a shame we didn't have that chance with players from decades further back.
The 90s Magic was a nightmare. You put that team in today's era and 60 wins easy. You have a long PG, a reliable 3pt shooter and Shaq? Goodness.
”what happened to Rodman!” 😂😂
Kenny talks so much on open court for a role player. The rest of the role players are humble an know their place Kenny talks like he lead the team
Can you blame him? I mean he used to bring Hakeem some water, all the time!
You could be a role player but have a vast knowledge of the game. Just like you can say not all great players know how to win as an executive/owner. i.e. Jordan Derek Jeter etc etc
@@x-ray3431 we all know Kenny thinks he's way better than he is cause those finals run's and having a good game during the finals
He's not wrong about the rockets though. They probably still win those championships if Michael didn't retire.
He's a new Yorker what do u expect 😂
I would have loved to see the Rockets vs Bulls Finals.
Me too. Rockets in 6 or 7.
If it was 94 or 95…not before those years or after
@@sdmurphy20 I think they win one ring if Jordan stays and that's when Clyde came to the team.
That was a good one Ernie: "They were broken up by Michael Jordan playing baseball." He knows like everyone else knows that if Jordan would have played all 8 years he would have won 8 rings.
There is no way any team could have done 8 straight 100 game seasons. They would have broken down after after maybe five in a row I think.
Doward Washington
Kinda awkward to say in a comment on a video where Steve Kerr says there’s no way they woulda won 8 in a row.
I say they would have won 8 chips, but most likely not in a row. We forget that in 93, Jordan and Pippen were tired because they weren't able to rest during the summer before. Unless they were able to get good rest during that summer, they would not have won in 93-94. They would've won in 94-95 and 98-99.
kcire10 10
Maybe 7.
By 99, even Jordan was tired. The man was 36.
@@paliboy93 .... Think about this, the season was shortened to 50 games in 98-99. Scotty Pippen played all 82 games that season and his numbers were great. Jordan would have gotten the proper rest he needed, along with the others, and they would've killed. The title SA won that year was a fluke. They were almost swept the very next year in the first round by Phoenix.
Who else misses the 80s/90s NBA ? Today's game is not as good ...... period .........
An understatement if ever there was one in regards to sports.
Not even close. Those days of strong mental and physical men is dearly missed. Don’t think it will ever be like that again with all this technology that makes life so much easier. Not to mention the monetary value of a business, team or player nowadays make the minds of players lazier.
@Mr. Bovine Joni based on what? Lol your on your own on that one!
TDS today game is better - stop lying to yourself. The league was full of brutes back then why were only in the league because toughness. Now players (bar very very few) are in cause of skill
I do think guys like Embiid would dominate in the 90s. Maybe even Ben Simmons. Play today does suck though. No defense at all.
90's NBA...the best Team Sport ever.
From every Stand Point.
Can't they just get MJ to come and sit? It must be annoying for all who played with/against him to tell stories of him. It's like Pippen who's always asked about MJ, or Alfonso Ribeiro asked about Will Smith, etc
MJ's big headed and thinks he's too good to be with these guys on a show. So he wants everyone to talk about him like he's some legendary essence. Which he is, but he's still a dick. I doubt LeBron will be like that when he retires.
Tbf if he didn't have that mentality he wouldn't be who he is now.
Ivan Ci lol you’re right but my point is he’s been retired for how long now? Does he really need that same mentality when he’s not hoopin and a billionaire? Why not just give the fans what they wanna see and talk with these guys...id love to see that competitive spirit on here when he roasts everyone 😂 would be cool if he wore all 6 of his rings on the show too.
Fair point. I'd love to see him on this show :D
@@Balal8281 It's who he is, its not a matter of does he need it or not. It's who he is, he doesn't need to change for anyone so he just remains the way he is.
One of the best teams not to win it is the early 90s Portland Trailblazers and they don't get recognized. 63-19 season And Clyde Drexler was a similar player to Jordan
Those Blazer teams NEVER get any love on Open Court, and that's a drag. They were the best team in the West for 3 years and you never hear anyone talk about them or Clyde, etc. Ernie even tried to open the door for them in the final segment and they never got a mention from the panel. I know they didn't win a title, but those were some great teams that everyone had issues with. That 90-91 team you mentioned that went 63-19 beat Chicago handedly in two blowouts that season. They got upended in the conference finals to the Lakers, but that year was their big missed opportunity to win one before Michael figured it out.
Spox News They've talked about them now on the episode "Best teams to not win a title".
the blazers would have won titles in 1990 and 1992 if they didn't have to face 2 of the greatest teams of all time. they also lost in 1991 in the WCF to lakers. the early 90s blazers could have won a title in any of those seasons, but they had to face those 3 teams.
Clyde wasn’t similar. That was a misconception. Clyde wasn’t even close - just an athletic guard.
You're right. Sometimes it all comes down to luck of the draw. Time and place.
Only thing annoying is Kenny thinking he was that good. He should act more like Barry and Kerr.
Christian Cole He’s right though. Kenny’s not in the same league as guys like Chuck and Shaq, but speaks like he is.
Na, Kenny Smith was clutch during those two Title runs and he was a starter. Much more solidified than Barry and Kerr, who were never starters on a championship team.
Persian Warrior that’s when you just knock a city boy out to check him
Kenny is a champion, So he speaks as a champion. Is he in that higher echelon of nba greats? No, but he was huge in the winning of those championships.
Let's Get Lit Kerr’s clutch
Isiah cant even comment on how good the bulls were without putting down Jordan🤧
@rudy2fat What truth MJ ain't bitter Isaiah is
@rudy2fat MJ is class personified
@@ii9714 MJ is a well known scumbag.
He still hating
Vanessa Vaughn Lmaoo was wondering would I see this in the comments
Sometimes Kenny can be really annoying but hell I love his Hakeem storys, he should write a book about his time at the rockets.
All the times he brought him some water?
@@matt9546 lmfao
This is one of my favorite sports shows all about the game of basketball where legends and hall of fame great players share their thoughts, stories and perspectives about their playing days and games as well as on a variety of topics in the league. God bless them all for doing this.
No Shaq, Reggie or Charles ? They were instrumental in the 90's.
Trey Jones SHAQ IS MORE 2000'S
That's what I was saying watching this Charles, Shaq, and Reggie starred on those teams. Everyone in that room except Zeke were roleplayers. Kenny Smith is hilarious to me. We wouldn't know who he was without TNT.
Doward Washington I beg your pardon? Kenny was the second option on that Rockets team for the first championship run. He was instrumental in their system, and was even a candidate for the MVP award in 1991 season. He was a popular player even competing in a dunk contest. Which is why he regularly judges the contest post career.
When did you start following the game? Those of us who grew up in the 80's and 90's know The Jet very well.
@@LynxStarAuto you must be a Rockets fan????
Maybe they was busy....
l love this shit
Me too!
We are old, we all wish it was still like this
Yeah right... The Pistons were dirty af.
I’m not mad @em but Isaiah never owns up to anything.
Filthy Dirty
It's not about the hand shake, he plays the victim and acts shocked that ppl were pissed.
FUNKSTAPPUHHH Absolutely right and miss those battles with the heat and Knicks and I’m a huge heat 🔥fan !!
@Chuck chuck you don't even have to go that far back. Just pre LeBron
I agree. There was no propaganda. They were straight up dirty. He should own up to it. And... He shouldn't regret not shaking hands. He should flat out say, we hated them, they hated us, Fuck em, we're not shaking their hands.
I disagree with Kenny, I believe the Bulls with Jordan would've beat the Rockets in '94. Why? Because it took the Knicks 7 games to beat a Bulls team without Jordan. It took the eventual champion Rockets 7 games to beat those Knicks. To say Jordan wouldn't have made a difference is foolish. The core of the '93-'94 Bulls team was the same but they also added Kukoc.
Also it took the Knicks 7 games to beat the Indiana Pacers in the ECF that year.
Edmond Lau yea if not for that blown call they'd have beaten the Knicks and then played a 5th seeded pacer te am. They had a legit chance at the finals without Jordan
With Jordan it's a wrap
@@kanyeeast4162 yeah right, they were 2-6 against Olajuwon in those 3 peat years and the Bulls don't have a Patrick Ewing to block 31 of the rockets shots, so Olajuwon would've dusted the bulls bigs and would've avg 4s and 5b a game
Every matchup is different.
@THE Rattler Ewing ain't Olajuwon tho, and Ewing took them to games 6 and 7 by himself! And I meant 2-6 in the early 90's but that don't even matter cuz Olajuwon was 11-5 against Jordan for their first 9 seasons! It was their styles that made Olajuwon Jordans cryptonite, he made Jordan 1 dimensional and on the other end he was completely unstoppable even with double and triple teams! When Phil had the balls to double Olajuwon, he was averaging like 7 assists a game passing off the dribble and passing after jumping to shoot! Jordans game was drive to the basket for a dunk or layup and pull up mid-range over the smaller defender! Olajuwon owned the paint from all the way out to about 17ft from any direction and he would block jump shots not just layups! Not only that he would get like 4 steals a game on the Bulls and even if he didn't get the block he changed every players layup about 50% of the time! And since Jordan already took about 25 shots a game, he would have to take 30 shots against the Rockets so nobody else could kill them while focusing on Jordan. Don't forget Jordan avg like 35p on the Rockets but he usually lost by double digits! I'm not making this shit up
'He's the nice guy, the one that hits you.' beautiful flavor text for a trading card
Kerr is accurate and played when defense existed.
Brent Barry made some phenomenal points here.
Brent should coach in the NBA.
@@davidsantos4870 or do his own type of analysis show or something, I like him too.
Isiah has a lot of trouble explaining the Bad Boys. Isiah can talk all he wants, but they were dirty, period.
Funk is correct. Pistons got a lot of flack, pbly in large part due to being at the top, and dethroning the beloved Celtics. So they had a ton of attention on them right from the start.
rjb555 WORD
@FUNKSTAPPUHHH LOL I saw a highlight where Xavier McDaniel literally took an elbow to the face while going up. Dude dunked it and stared the guy down like nothing happened. The game was so much tougher back then.
I agree. He got frustrated because Kenny saw through his weak attempt to mask their over the top rough play by giving a slight intellectual perspective.
@none of your damn business I kind of agree with that analogy
Isiah still oozes with jealousy of Michael Jordan. It shows you how competitive 80s - 90s ball was compared to now. Dudes still don't talk today and it's been 30 years lol
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Yep, disgust and dislike was bone-deep not just this surface bs we see if at all now.
The Boston Celtics announcers voice is classic.🤣😂
Kenny talking like he was an mvp or something, he carrying himself like he dominated
Steve Kerr is low key 🔐 savage
Very intelligent guy
90's wuz all about the bulls
So glad the Bulls swept the Pistons and ended the "bad boys" era. There is physical and then there is dirty, that's what the Pistons were.
Not shaking hands pretty much sealed his exclusion from the Dream Team. At that time, Michael Jordan had just won back to back championships and was still on the rise. The NBA was expanding onto the world stage and needed Jordan as their ambassador to NBA basketball. If Jordan said he wasn't going to play if Thomas was on the team, who do you think was going to win that one?
Edmond Lau Pistons were not really dirty. They just fought more than any other team and destroyed the other team's confidence
they weren't dirty dumbass I watched 80s basketball. They just got in teams' heads better so everyone wanted to fight them and in turn got dealt with, but every team played physical and threw the occasional jab or slap in the 80s. Celtics were no different, neither were the Lakers against the Pistons in the finals.
There's a reason Laimbeer was called the enforcer. Pistons were dirty as shit, and everyone fucking knows it.
@@privatejoker9090 there no rule playing like that back then, what you expect? Cookies?
Greg Hubbard nah you’re just a Celtics fan or somethin
Houston wasn't about the 3 guards. It was that big 34.
So right! Hakeem was clearly the best player during those years. Clearly the best defender and atleast 2nd to 3rd best offensive big. Just look what The Dream did to young Shaq, prime Ewing and mvp Robinson!
Greatest center ever
As a ‘90s Rockets fan I can’t believe they didn’t mention the Portland Trailblazers (went to two NBA Finals), the Seattle SuperSonics and the early ‘90s Spurs. Those teams helped define the West in the early to mid ‘90s. And yes, the Rockets would have between the Bulls pre-‘96, but not after that.
Chicago and Houston were the bane of our Utah Jazz existence in the 90's! Both of these teams kept us from titles multiple times!
Rockets fan here....yall finally got us in 97. 😪 Lol
Off Playstation 2, Orland Magics was my favorite team. Penny running with Anderson and 3D shooting and Shaq being Shaq...
Probably my favorite sports show, good stuff.
Whoa! The shade 😎 that Isiah throws at the mailman mailman darkens the room 😳. He calls him a weak link in the playoffs in Piston match ups which prevented Utah from winning rings. And, Kenny Smith seconded the motion of Malone's ineptitude against the Rockets. Ouch!
Huge charges against Malone which were backed up by Pippen saying that the Mailman does not deliver on Sunday. 🤔
Crazy how some people don't actualy say two Texas teams won. When Jordan retired those teams where the Rockets and Spurs.
Isiah Thomas thinks Karl Malone was the weak link on Utah lolol. He must still be bitter about getting hit in the face by him. Malone was the MVP of the league in 1997. Sure he missed a couple of free throws and didn't play well at times in the finals but w/o Karl Malone the Jazz aren't even CLOSE to being a championship contender in the 90's. There was no weak link on the Jazz in 1997 or 1998... they just ran into the Jordan and the Bulls
mail man doesn't deliver on sundays
moose423 I honestly think they could've beat the bulls one of those years had Stockton been more of a scorer than facilitator. He was a bad man.
moose423 there are lots of time that they should have won if Malone had made his FTs...
Kasumi Yamabuki that's true
Someone noticed from those 97-98 teams. I didnt feel that Malone was the weak link.
Someone said that the reason that the Jazz lost to Chicago those 2 finals was because besides Malone, they didnt have a lot of big guys that can play and the defense had the worst matchups.
Hornacek guarding Pippen. Russell on Jordan. Osterbag sucked and if they had other good bigmen off the bench to play defense besides Malone. They probably beat the Bulls.
Stockton and Malone were doing everything most of the time.
When the NBA was the NBA
27:30- Whoo! Sure were some fiery Celtics announcers! 😂 This guy and Tommy H.
Johnny Most was his name. If you can find the rockets vs celtics finals game five when Ralph sampson got into a fight with Jerry sichting, listen to it. He sounded like he wanted to go on the court and punch Sampson
What is Kenny wearing lol, it's like something your grandma would knit you for Christmas, sweaterjacket
This is my personal opinion but I think the 90s was the best era for the center position
the fact that mj is the goat is because of his...
consistency
efficiency
leadership
and his artistry in fadeaway plus the shooting percentage made the difference. and this separate mj from the rest.
Jordan and pippen no question! Best duo ever! 6 rings
Kerr is a classy guy but I disagree...The Bulls would have won at least 8 rings, if MJ didnt leave.
No
AL bro do you realize how hard it is to win a ring? let alone 2 or 3 back to back??. i think jordan winning 6 rings back to back to back no losses was mainly Skill equated with Luck. legitimately all it takes is one person, one player to say something along the lines of ‘look as long as im on this court. im winning a championship, mike or no mike out there’ because in all actuality its all a mindset look at the best players dead or alive.
Even MJ said they had no answer for Hakeem Olajuwon.
The Bulls would have been broken down and tired if they went 5 years in a row in the finals. Let alone 8.
Zayd Ahmad and the Rockets had no answer for Jordan. It definitely would have been an epic finals.
@@mtb4l673 the answer for Jordan was Olajuwon owning the paint! He was 11-5 against Jordan for 9 seasons
Isiah would've been a GREAT lawyer.He just have a way of trying to convince you of his BS while making it sound believable.Then throws the smile in to fool the jury.
That is how dirty he was
Tatum, Williamson, Brown, Herro, Fox, Ayton, Murray, Jokic, Siakam, Yound, Doncic, gonna be the future future of these talks !! Haha 😂
Even if Isiah has beef with MJ, he got mad respect and appreciation for the Goat 👍👍👍
30:24 Well Isiah, I know you hate Scottie and you have an inner dislike for Michael Jordan as well, but Dennis Rodman was coloring his hair and all that even during Spurs days which was before the Bulls, so no thats not correct
He kind of just creates his own narrative of the past and makes it sound fitting but yeah, then you scratch your head when it doesn’t match up.
The guy is weird. Fake smile, fake personality. He tries to make it seem like nothing when it eats him up inside regardless what it is.
Isaiah has spent his entire life playing a victim. If he would have just owned the hare he took, he could have moved on. He and his team played dirty, everybody played rough but they played dirty. He should have just said we did what it took to win. I am not the ref.
He also was low key bitter about MJ taking over his town of Chicago.
He was clearly jokeing here.
From 31.00 onwards: That is why you always need to hear all versions in cases of human conflict. I should add to what Isahia said restrospectively: they should have act differently not only because of civility but also because they should have foreseen that the image of them leaving like that would remain in the minds of the people and they would swiftly pass judgement without knowing the reasons. of that decision.
Isaiah Thomas said it best. Detroit knew Jordan wasn't a team player and didn't need to worry about the rest of the team and could focus on Jordan alone. Phil made a team around Jordan.
Kenny can think that all he wants! 😆 Had MJ not retired that first time he and the Bulls win 8 straight championships!!
Straight up!
Ernie OG
LiqCharles tough dude. Counter punched cancer twice.
All I smoke
What the hell is dennis scott talking about at 21:44? Jerry west didnt get rid of everyone but two players the entire starting five with the exception of vlade came back. Corie blount , van exel, eddie jones, ceballos, all returned for the 96-97 season. Get your facts right 3D!
Image if MJ was on this show
Yes that would be AWESOME. I don't get why he doesn't. We want to see him. He should come every once in a while at least.
He never participate on tv shows,or public apperances...only on Pippens jersey retirement and HoF enscrihement. He is buisness man now.
Hes not a good person and not friendly like these guys. He would just ruin the show.
I definitely wouldn't mind seeing MJ on this type of show. But he doesn't show too much open enthusiasm from what I've seen of him when he makes appearances. Many years ago on an Oprah interview, MJ seemed to be irritated by Sir Charles egging him a bit when they sat together during that interview.
You think Isiah would have anything to laugh about if MJ was sittin in front of him🤣🤣
93' Phoenix Suns, was the best team to play the Bulls in the finals. Barkley, KJ and Thunder Dan
giant dome no way. Probably the worst.
@@ObamaSon96 you can't say that, the Lakers were the worst, old and injured. Pippen admitted that. 93 Barkley was the MVP and was able to score on Pippen. KJ was a problem, so was Dan Marley. Also, they almost forced a game 7, they loss game 6 in heartbreaking fashion, Paxton 3-pointer
One of the coolest episode ideas would be these guys talking about the players who left us too early. Pistol Pete, Len Bias, Drazen Petrovic, Malik Sealy (get KG on for that one). Could have made for an interesting and deep episode.
I would love that. The biggest for me is Bias, even Jordan had recognized a kindred spirit it seems. The early 90s Bulls Celtics rivalry would have been something freaking else.
@@RemoWilliams1227 for real, especially with Reggie Lewis. That Celtics squad would be 🔥
@@grizkrelez I had forgotten about Reggie (who is yet another huuuge what if), you're right man they would have been running and gunning, and possibly allowed Bird and McHale to extend their careers a bit.
Ernie got to be one of the coolest hosts ever I swear
Imagine bringing that ball up the court and Pippen is on you and Jordan comes to double team ROFL!
I imagine that happening everytime i see guys like Trae Young play.
Kenny was talking about the summer of 1995 when Jordan was filming Space Jam. The Magic beat the Bulls in the 1995 playoffs. Shaq didn't leave Orlando that summer. It was the summer of 1996. The 72-10 Bulls swept the Magic in the 1996 playoffs and then Shaq left.