@@peanut9426 Maybe the fact that it's developed by Bytedance, the same company behind TikTok. The app which is being investigated for supplying China with data from the USA and Europe.
Thanks for the video Thrill! As an Australian who imported their Pico 4 from China, I'm VERY careful with the headset out of fear of potentially damaging any part of the system and then being unable to use it until I can source replacement parts from overseas which as we all know, can be a glacially slow process.. It's great to know that the whole system generally holds up very well to a proper physical stress test and I appreciate you taking the time to do this! Thanks mate
Same here, bought mine via Kogan, main use will be on trips to work (I am a FIFO worker). I bought a carry bag and lens protector just in case but man, this thing is solid! I've been using Virtual Desktop on my laptop, amazing performance.
It's genuinely incredible these things can survive impacts like that. Just an HMD in general. I don't normally expect complex tech to deal with much beyond ideal usage. Granted I've hit my Index controllers and headset enough to know it's gotta be something they have to think about when making this stuff, but the ability to still use a headset fine after chucking it across the room is far beyond expectations.
Yeah Q2 is a brick. There is also a good amount of air between the important bits and the plastic shell. It is also an absolute pain to take apart and I will have to do that again soon, cause it seems meta cheaper out in terms of thermal paste. It has dried up after two years of extensive usage.
i really think premium (>$500) hmds should focus on protecting the lens. Like, make them glass instead of plastic and include a built in cover so you dont get sun damage
@@toututu2993 that's supper easy to fix i used to have it just get some electronics 4d-40 and put in in the sticks fixed it perminantly for me had it for a year before that
@@toututu2993 you can easily just replace the joysticks if you just follow a video tutorial on how to disassemble the controllers and buy replacement sticks online, i have been doing that for my quest 2 controllers and i havent broken any cables yet, even if i was rough with disassembling it
I've been saying from the get-go that people should be wary about the integrated, unremovable strap, so it's VERY reassuring to finally see someone testing out if this is a point of failure to worry about. Glad to see it's so reliable, damn! This actually puts Pico in a really good position if they do a US release. When the Quest 3 comes out supposedly at a higher cost, the Pico 4 could be everyone's consumer option that still has pancake lenses, but at a lesser cost.
@@ngregoirenc My best guess would be that you'd be good with normal wear and tear for a few years, but time will tell. Could be that this kind of plastic they use will lose its durability after a couple years, but we'll see. I think that generally speaking this kind of workability for the plastic just means that you'll be protected if you accidentally drop it battery-first, bending the strap entirely. You probably wouldn't be doing what Thrill's doing here in the video every day, otherwise I'd totally agree with you there.
Needs good software for it to go anywhere. I'm talking QoL, games, apps. Quest 2 is just leagues ahead. Plus if the rumors of a quest lite are true, then I assume that would be a revamped quest 2 with pancake optics, and maybe the XR2+ potentially. The main thing pico has is the tiktok branding.
After the pico 4 review I’d love to see a tier list or overview comparing all the major headsets to see what’s best for who. Been thinking of a video like that for a while now
not just date, not even announced to ever release. xD Bytedance is understandably careful with their US relations. In the event of a trade ban they would be locked out of using Qualcomm hardware.
So for the scratch repair, you should attempt to work your way through higher and higher grit sandpaper before moving to polishing compound. You do have to make sure you start with a sandpaper close to your scratch depth though, and make sure that the surface is of uniform scratchy-ness (a haze at higher grits) and no trace of the scratch you're trying to remove is there anymore before moving up to the next grit. Oh, and also be careful with the polishing phase and keep the lenses cool since that polishing (especially with a tool) will make a lot of heat and melt the plastic lenses.
Do you remember when Thrill had like 15 supporters and read each of their names out at the end of each video? Now the list moves so fast! Gratz on the massive growth!
Reading the title I was VERY doubtful about this video. Only a crash-test? No specs or actual testing? I was surprised how cleverly you’ve solved it and shared your thoughts about the specs and even key durability concerns that might made some Pico 4 users use the device too carefully. Keep up the good work!✌🏻
Thrill? I kinda wonder what would happen if you were to put a Valve Index through this durability test. Given its somewhat notorious durability problems, it could be an interesting video.
@@Derpynewb It totally would. I wanna know WHAT exactly would break though. That or it'd magically be fine. Mine's taken some incredible hits and still works perfectly, if you check out chrisquitsreality you'll see what I mean. The index is either super breakage prone or an absolute tank, with no in between.
@@Evangeder I had to rma the headset 3 times, the left controller at least twice. And the replacements touch sensor on the joystick failed. Did t bother replacing because I've done it so many times. Second stage of the dual stage triggers gone. Only my base stations and my right controller work fine. Headset occasionally turns off even with a new signal. May be a driver issue though.
About the lenses: Pico made sure glasses are unlikely to scratch them, with a plastic bumper and the lenses being flat, if not concave. Should make the pancake lens coating problem less of a worry. 👍
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Are you going public with the Pico4 review soon? I would like to watch your review. Two months ago, I switched from Q2, used for over a year (mostly for PCVR), to P4 and still have mixed fillings. Most of my Pico issues are with quality. The main one is a bad facemask. Even a 3D-printed face mask is soo uncomfortable. Lack of maturity also caused a lack of moded facemask variants, unlike with Q2. I am still waiting for a few facemask mods to try to resolve the comfort issue. It is not only about comfort. Bad facemasks result in mask movements, resulting in uncentered eyes and blurriness. Another thing is controller movements are a little bit more sensitive than with Q2. Every little move could be much more felt in P4 than in Q2. This could be resolved with future updates, so I hope for additional controller stabilization. Also, noticed a lack of spacial sound feeling in P4 compared to Q2. With Q2, I can know exactly with headphones when someone is in front of me vs. when it is behind me. With P4, it is a lot more difficult to tell that difference. About positives. One thing is a big, incomparable difference for me against Q2. That is the openness of the Android system in P4. You can do almost anything you can do with an Android phone. That is, besides lenses, displays, and battery on the back, the greatest advantage against Q2.
It's so amazing to see Standalone VR manufacturers adopt early the 2000s Nintendo durability standard, and that their systems are able to survive these tests so well.
Wow thanks for making this insane stress test happen. I live in Europe so the Pico 4 has been on my radar, even though their owner doesn't strike me as trustworthy, I would get this over a Quest 2. However I will be getting the Lynx R1, with the transparent front cover, if they manage to get the production going smoothly, almost there.
@@Aereto Yes the controllers, I hope they come soon. I remember in Stan's last live stream he mentioned the hired someone specifically to work on them. The lack of info on them is the reason continued considering other headsets but ultimately Lynx R1 is the headset I want the most.
I just wish bite dance would get some slack in the US. I don't care about TikTok. But we need competition in the VR space. The pico4 is a damn good headset. Also, pancake lenses just can't be beat. Put on a Pico 4 and then put on a quest and it's night and day between the two.
i have been waiting for mine for months and its so painful to watch you destroy it, but its also very informative to see what are its strengths and weaknesses
I think you are quite outdated haha, they have almost the same game library, every day 8 to 10 games are added to the pico 4 catalog, and they are not Chinese games, they are the same games that are in quest 2, and for PCVR Using Virtual Desktop I can assure you that it is the best value for money headset for PCVR that exists on the market. I am not a fanboy, I have almost all the virtual reality headsets that exist and I have a lot of free time to do my research, so go ahead mate
Hello, first off great torture testing. I am hoping you don't just throw that headset away. I live in an area where people just throw away still salvageable electronics, I love to to just take them and refurbish them it helps give me some technical experience. Anyway love your videos, thank you.
I'll always love this type of videos but the pain it causes me to see a brand new headset getting beated to death and I'm just like trying to get one, it really hurts x'D
what would be interesting to know is if the pancakes react differently to direct sunlight than fresnel lenses. So far the only damange I had with 2 headsets was sun damage :(
Great video. I owned a Q2 since day one & sold it 1 month after buying the Pico 4. To this day I have no regrets. I was originally looking to buy a Cambria (now know as the quest pro) but reviews were mixed & the price was very high in comparison. I finally got my hands on a pro to compare with a Pico 4 & honestly I can say I made the right decision. I honestly can't believe how well the Pico 4 holds up against the Pro. There should be such a difference between the 2 but in my opinion there isn't! I went slightly off topic but wanted to share my own experience with you & your viewers :)
Thrill. The reason Pico isn't selling more of these headsets is because you haven't released the review video! God damn, I didn't expect it to fair so well on the distructive tests.
Whoa never thought the strap could be twisted like that without breaking. Now I`m relieved my pico`s strap won`t snap like quest 1`s did if I pick it up from one side
In my experience I’ve used my RIFT S for 3 years now and I’ve put that thing through hell, it has been beaten during my Pavlov sessions more than a British wife when they loose to France. And it’s still standing but it truly is one leg in the grave, I’m just waiting for the next really good headset to drop, like a index 2, then I’ll finally retire my RIFT S
the quest 2 is like a m4 rifle. it is one of the most customizable rifle platforms that exist. you can put so many different 3rd party attachments on and can be used in standalone and pcvr making it one of the all around most reliable headsets for consumer use.
With the Quest 2 strap we got off of Amazon, the back of the head can fold inward so I do that to cover the lenses when I put it in my bag to go to something like the Virtual Portal we put on at FE mid March. I haven't noticed any scratches having it loosely packed in with a bunch of crap to go to a furry con. So that's 👍
The Pico 4 definitely has some appeal. I've even used it for casual movie watching - which was never something that I particularly liked doing with the Quest 2.
@@GamingRider20 No real difference in performance with virtual desktop, but pico has a slightly larger fov and is more comfortable out of the box. For pcvr only I would definitely recommend pico. If you are wanting standalone content go for the quest (or quest 3 when it releases)
@@shawnrains4047 Thx bro, i dont need stand alone vr because i have spent so many money on my pc, its a waste to focus on stand alone, cause i have to buy the game again so pcvr is my prioritu, i already have vr games in steam so thats why hehe..Thx bro, i almost waste money at quest again
Got my Pico 4 just a few days ago and for the price it's amazing, stream from my pc with virtual desktop. Only cons might be battery time 2 ish hours, but easily solved with the right power bank. And the other con is the virtual desktop app costs money. But you can't really complain about that when you see how well it works.
You should do a durability test of the Quest 3. As much as I don't want to see one be destroyed I'm curious if its as tuff as the Quest 2 or if the newer hardware isn't as tough.
I picked up a Pico 4 not long ago (eBay, around $390 after shipping) it quickly replaced my Quest 2 as I do more PCVR than anything. (there are ways to get you quest purchases on your Pico from what Ive read but I havent tried it yet) I evebn compared it with the Quest Pro when went on sale last year. After about a half hour, the Quest Pro was boxed back up and returned to Best Buy, I like the Pico 4 THAT much. While the Quest Pro had better controllers, the Pico 4 was just a better headset overall. My only real gripe is the Pico market, they REALLY need some more games in there.
I totally agree. I'm a Pico 4 owner who also sold my Quest 2 one month after owning a Pico. I also tried the Pro just yesterday and it was very underwhelming. It's crazy to be able to compare the Pico 4 to the Pro but you actually can as there really isn't much difference and there are quite a few things that Pico does better. I really hope the quest 3 is a Pico 4 beater as it'll suck if the only thing it does better is the new chipset
Pico likely applied a hardcoat like a UV acrylic. Decent coatings can usually withstand scratching from something like steel wool. You should be able to buff the scratches out of your lenses with enough effort, even the 80 grit. This is basically the same way you remove the yellowing from old car headlight covers. You just need to gradually work through the deep scratches with ever finer grit at each stage, down to as fine a grit as you can go, like 1000 or even 3000, the finer the final grit stage the better. Eventually you use a fine liquid polishing compound. You'll have all but completely removed the hardcoating layer though. In theory, you might be able to put a new protective coating on just like what they do with automotive headlight covers.
I'm thinking of changing my VR headset from Quest 2 to Pico. I really want a lighter PC VR headset and that has nice wight balance. Thanks for testing the durability on this because I was kind of worried about it being a piece cheap plastic
in the full review could you mention if pico 4 or quest 2 is better for pcvr exclusively? thank you for being such an amazing content creator. love you.
That's why it takes so long for him to make a review. I switched to pico from quest and i still can't answer this question with certain. My case is pico has suitable IPD for my eyes and quest don't. In other terms they are just different.
Cmon Thrill we're not even getting a full review after all this time? I really love your content but especially a upcoming brand like Pico could've benefited immensely from a full review, making the VR space more diverse.
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Thank you so much for watching. So excited to be making some super fun videos again!
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Hi thrill
Gotta say your editing goes under appreciated. Good job man
@@CentriVR hey there Centri!!! :D
gonna be 10 k in under in hour this one blowing up... had to leave the video i was on to help out.
Thank you for the video! Waiting for that review too. Keep it up!❤
The start of the video shows Thrillseeker killing a innocent a headset with no mercy already, wow.
That headset is not innocent at all. It's spyware.
@@wrongteous almost every device made by a big corpo has spyware
@@wrongteous source ?
@@peanut9426 Maybe the fact that it's developed by Bytedance, the same company behind TikTok. The app which is being investigated for supplying China with data from the USA and Europe.
@@EvyFurry But this is corporate espionage being conducted by China. A country which is extremely hostile to democracy and western values.
Thanks for the video Thrill! As an Australian who imported their Pico 4 from China, I'm VERY careful with the headset out of fear of potentially damaging any part of the system and then being unable to use it until I can source replacement parts from overseas which as we all know, can be a glacially slow process.. It's great to know that the whole system generally holds up very well to a proper physical stress test and I appreciate you taking the time to do this! Thanks mate
I bought replacement battery preemptively
@@shiftednrifted Thats a smart move lol
Same here, bought mine via Kogan, main use will be on trips to work (I am a FIFO worker). I bought a carry bag and lens protector just in case but man, this thing is solid! I've been using Virtual Desktop on my laptop, amazing performance.
How much did you get it for if I may ask including shipping cost. And was it from AliExpress?
@@bluebaconjake405 yea i figured with my luck by the time i need one they wont be available
It's genuinely incredible these things can survive impacts like that. Just an HMD in general. I don't normally expect complex tech to deal with much beyond ideal usage. Granted I've hit my Index controllers and headset enough to know it's gotta be something they have to think about when making this stuff, but the ability to still use a headset fine after chucking it across the room is far beyond expectations.
Plastic is strong, dude
Yeah Q2 is a brick. There is also a good amount of air between the important bits and the plastic shell. It is also an absolute pain to take apart and I will have to do that again soon, cause it seems meta cheaper out in terms of thermal paste. It has dried up after two years of extensive usage.
Basically just a phone encased in an egg of plastic lol. The durability info is helpful, but like my PC, I won't be chucking my VR headset ever lol
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 but you will likely drop it at some point and you will be happy it can survive that.
i really think premium (>$500) hmds should focus on protecting the lens. Like, make them glass instead of plastic and include a built in cover so you dont get sun damage
The quest 2 durability test is legendary 😂
But the crappy joystick drift is a pain
@@toututu2993 that's supper easy to fix i used to have it just get some electronics 4d-40 and put in in the sticks fixed it perminantly for me had it for a year before that
@@toututu2993 you can easily just replace the joysticks if you just follow a video tutorial on how to disassemble the controllers and buy replacement sticks online, i have been doing that for my quest 2 controllers and i havent broken any cables yet, even if i was rough with disassembling it
@@TropicalCyc or just spray some WD-40 into the joysticks
@@FunnyUro Just a note, not the oil! the contact cleaner!
I've been saying from the get-go that people should be wary about the integrated, unremovable strap, so it's VERY reassuring to finally see someone testing out if this is a point of failure to worry about. Glad to see it's so reliable, damn!
This actually puts Pico in a really good position if they do a US release. When the Quest 3 comes out supposedly at a higher cost, the Pico 4 could be everyone's consumer option that still has pancake lenses, but at a lesser cost.
My only concern would be how it does with fatigue, especially the wires inside. After a year or so of stretching and movement, how will it hold up.
@@ngregoirenc My best guess would be that you'd be good with normal wear and tear for a few years, but time will tell. Could be that this kind of plastic they use will lose its durability after a couple years, but we'll see.
I think that generally speaking this kind of workability for the plastic just means that you'll be protected if you accidentally drop it battery-first, bending the strap entirely. You probably wouldn't be doing what Thrill's doing here in the video every day, otherwise I'd totally agree with you there.
Needs good software for it to go anywhere. I'm talking QoL, games, apps. Quest 2 is just leagues ahead. Plus if the rumors of a quest lite are true, then I assume that would be a revamped quest 2 with pancake optics, and maybe the XR2+ potentially.
The main thing pico has is the tiktok branding.
People looking how Quest2 is cheap forget how terrible it is without accessories and replacements (strap is just a must have)
It's been 5 months since this video, and we still haven't gotten a full review.
THE RETURN OF THE DRYER FINALLY!!
Hi Chris! Love your vids man
After the pico 4 review I’d love to see a tier list or overview comparing all the major headsets to see what’s best for who. Been thinking of a video like that for a while now
pin this!
Quest 2 for standalone users, Pico 4 for wireless pcvr users
Awesome video, always great to see a durability test! Still a shame though there is yet to be a NA release date.
not just date, not even announced to ever release. xD
Bytedance is understandably careful with their US relations.
In the event of a trade ban they would be locked out of using Qualcomm hardware.
sick pfp love KDE
Watching this actually hurts me physically… but loving this content. You are the most exceptional VR reviewer out there. Please never stop.
Normal VR RUclipsrs: Stick to a regular review
Thrillseeker:
I wonder how hard fixing this damage yourself would be with replacement parts!
Yeah I wonder this too actually!! I think it may be a little hard to get the parts though!
As someone who likes to repair before I replace I was disappointed when I found out how even a simple lense is hard to find for the quest 2
The battery is super easy to swap out if the tear down is anything to go buy. There is a chinese video about it so shouldn't be hard to find.
Hey man thanks for all the stuff you make. It’s awesome and I love watching your videos and listening to ur vr news. Ur the best
Another round of headset laundering. Thank you. 👍👍
It's always great to see at least someone cleaning up their wearables! XD
@@CakePrincessCelestia giving those lenses a good scrub
So for the scratch repair, you should attempt to work your way through higher and higher grit sandpaper before moving to polishing compound.
You do have to make sure you start with a sandpaper close to your scratch depth though, and make sure that the surface is of uniform scratchy-ness (a haze at higher grits) and no trace of the scratch you're trying to remove is there anymore before moving up to the next grit.
Oh, and also be careful with the polishing phase and keep the lenses cool since that polishing (especially with a tool) will make a lot of heat and melt the plastic lenses.
I never worry about scratches ever since Thrill introduced me to pollywatch.
been waiting all week for this
Do you remember when Thrill had like 15 supporters and read each of their names out at the end of each video?
Now the list moves so fast! Gratz on the massive growth!
waiting for full review!
It’s always a good day when thrill chucks a headset in a drying machine 🎉
I can't express how much anxiety watching this video gave me.
Thanks for the awesome video!
It hurts soo much..... But I've waited for that video soo long! Thanks Thrill!
Oh Ive been waiting for this one :)
Finally the long awaited test is here. Super fun watch
Reading the title I was VERY doubtful about this video. Only a crash-test? No specs or actual testing?
I was surprised how cleverly you’ve solved it and shared your thoughts about the specs and even key durability concerns that might made some Pico 4 users use the device too carefully.
Keep up the good work!✌🏻
2:41 wtf do you mean "For now"?
Thrill? I kinda wonder what would happen if you were to put a Valve Index through this durability test. Given its somewhat notorious durability problems, it could be an interesting video.
Itd fucking die. If they struggle to survive shipping and simply existing. This test would just fucking kill it
@@Derpynewb It totally would. I wanna know WHAT exactly would break though.
That or it'd magically be fine. Mine's taken some incredible hits and still works perfectly, if you check out chrisquitsreality you'll see what I mean. The index is either super breakage prone or an absolute tank, with no in between.
@@Derpynewb my index survived a few drops lol
@@Evangeder I had to rma the headset 3 times, the left controller at least twice. And the replacements touch sensor on the joystick failed. Did t bother replacing because I've done it so many times. Second stage of the dual stage triggers gone. Only my base stations and my right controller work fine. Headset occasionally turns off even with a new signal. May be a driver issue though.
hell yeah good to see it passed and cant wait for the review, im really clad you mentioned repairability aswell
I'm missing a "sun rays directly into lens" test here.
About the lenses:
Pico made sure glasses are unlikely to scratch them, with a plastic bumper and the lenses being flat, if not concave.
Should make the pancake lens coating problem less of a worry. 👍
Are you going public with the Pico4 review soon? I would like to watch your review. Two months ago, I switched from Q2, used for over a year (mostly for PCVR), to P4 and still have mixed fillings. Most of my Pico issues are with quality. The main one is a bad facemask. Even a 3D-printed face mask is soo uncomfortable. Lack of maturity also caused a lack of moded facemask variants, unlike with Q2. I am still waiting for a few facemask mods to try to resolve the comfort issue. It is not only about comfort. Bad facemasks result in mask movements, resulting in uncentered eyes and blurriness.
Another thing is controller movements are a little bit more sensitive than with Q2. Every little move could be much more felt in P4 than in Q2. This could be resolved with future updates, so I hope for additional controller stabilization. Also, noticed a lack of spacial sound feeling in P4 compared to Q2. With Q2, I can know exactly with headphones when someone is in front of me vs. when it is behind me. With P4, it is a lot more difficult to tell that difference.
About positives. One thing is a big, incomparable difference for me against Q2. That is the openness of the Android system in P4. You can do almost anything you can do with an Android phone. That is, besides lenses, displays, and battery on the back, the greatest advantage against Q2.
The first five seconds I see thrill hit the thing with a fricken axe, this is gonna be good
The video we have all been waiting for
I guess this was the Pico 4 review...
It's so amazing to see Standalone VR manufacturers adopt early the 2000s Nintendo durability standard, and that their systems are able to survive these tests so well.
Ooof, that review tease! Drop it already Thrill 😆
Loved the parts about repairability ❤️
omg I thought I'd be slick and pause at the dryer to see your face....but you got that covered... well played good sir
thanks for reviewing the pico 4 and not just destroying it for a video
Wow thanks for making this insane stress test happen. I live in Europe so the Pico 4 has been on my radar, even though their owner doesn't strike me as trustworthy, I would get this over a Quest 2. However I will be getting the Lynx R1, with the transparent front cover, if they manage to get the production going smoothly, almost there.
I have the normal case on pre-order in addition to the controllers mostly for testing.
But yes, their progress is slow but steady.
@@Aereto Yes the controllers, I hope they come soon. I remember in Stan's last live stream he mentioned the hired someone specifically to work on them. The lack of info on them is the reason continued considering other headsets but ultimately Lynx R1 is the headset I want the most.
This video was fun. More extreme takes from thrill
I just wish bite dance would get some slack in the US. I don't care about TikTok. But we need competition in the VR space. The pico4 is a damn good headset. Also, pancake lenses just can't be beat. Put on a Pico 4 and then put on a quest and it's night and day between the two.
i have been waiting for mine for months and its so painful to watch you destroy it, but its also very informative to see what are its strengths and weaknesses
I like how chill your cat was about it.
"but its on steam, at least, for now"
scary but accurate words...
10:03 Literally threw me off. I actually thought this was also a pico review lol. Good one.
Dude the pet in the back wondering WTF you're doing 😂
Interesting video, although it feels weird to see things getting broken..., now I'm waiting for a Valve Index durability test :)
I love the approach of the very unscientific scientific vibe of these videos
i feel like I would be more interested in the pico if it had the same library as the quest 2
I think you are quite outdated haha, they have almost the same game library, every day 8 to 10 games are added to the pico 4 catalog, and they are not Chinese games, they are the same games that are in quest 2, and for PCVR Using Virtual Desktop I can assure you that it is the best value for money headset for PCVR that exists on the market. I am not a fanboy, I have almost all the virtual reality headsets that exist and I have a lot of free time to do my research, so go ahead mate
the video weve al been waiting for
Hello, first off great torture testing. I am hoping you don't just throw that headset away. I live in an area where people just throw away still salvageable electronics, I love to to just take them and refurbish them it helps give me some technical experience. Anyway love your videos, thank you.
I've been waiting for this! Watching this on my Pico, heh
who let bro cook
I'll always love this type of videos but the pain it causes me to see a brand new headset getting beated to death and I'm just like trying to get one, it really hurts x'D
that patron list has gotten out of control! You deserve it! inb4 50 mil subs
This just reaffirms my decision to get one. I'm enjoying it.
what would be interesting to know is if the pancakes react differently to direct sunlight than fresnel lenses.
So far the only damange I had with 2 headsets was sun damage :(
hey! where's that review!?
Great video. I owned a Q2 since day one & sold it 1 month after buying the Pico 4. To this day I have no regrets. I was originally looking to buy a Cambria (now know as the quest pro) but reviews were mixed & the price was very high in comparison. I finally got my hands on a pro to compare with a Pico 4 & honestly I can say I made the right decision. I honestly can't believe how well the Pico 4 holds up against the Pro. There should be such a difference between the 2 but in my opinion there isn't!
I went slightly off topic but wanted to share my own experience with you & your viewers :)
Thrill. The reason Pico isn't selling more of these headsets is because you haven't released the review video!
God damn, I didn't expect it to fair so well on the distructive tests.
Exactly my thoughts - not enough influencers talking about it, especially western ones.
I wonder how the byte dance agents reacted to watching thrillseeker durability test.
They must’ve been like "🗿what is this guy doing?"
What I need is that Bigscreen Beyond review ASAP when that embargo drops😆
Pico: next version, we're making the headset and controllers out of steel since Thrill keeps bashing them apart
Bro, it is now the time to test it? Would be great...
LMAO, 4:04 r/virtualreality in a nutshell.
Whoa never thought the strap could be twisted like that without breaking. Now I`m relieved my pico`s strap won`t snap like quest 1`s did if I pick it up from one side
Please test the index! it would be great to see it compared on this playing field with it's known flaws and see where they land on this scale
Thats an entire other league in costs lmao
When will you be releasing the video you mentioned about adding eye tracking to your index?
I love how your cat is sitting them as you chuck the headset in the general direction of it lmao
I'm not planning on buying a Pico like maybe ever, but this video was still fun to watch
In my experience I’ve used my RIFT S for 3 years now and I’ve put that thing through hell, it has been beaten during my Pavlov sessions more than a British wife when they loose to France.
And it’s still standing but it truly is one leg in the grave, I’m just waiting for the next really good headset to drop, like a index 2, then I’ll finally retire my RIFT S
the quest 2 is like a m4 rifle. it is one of the most customizable rifle platforms that exist. you can put so many different 3rd party attachments on and can be used in standalone and pcvr making it one of the all around most reliable headsets for consumer use.
With the Quest 2 strap we got off of Amazon, the back of the head can fold inward so I do that to cover the lenses when I put it in my bag to go to something like the Virtual Portal we put on at FE mid March. I haven't noticed any scratches having it loosely packed in with a bunch of crap to go to a furry con. So that's 👍
The Pico 4 definitely has some appeal. I've even used it for casual movie watching - which was never something that I particularly liked doing with the Quest 2.
Swapped my quest 2 for a pico 4. If you're using it for virtual desktop & pc streaming its a no brainer.
@@shawnrains4047which is better at PCVR, quest or pico?
@@GamingRider20 No real difference in performance with virtual desktop, but pico has a slightly larger fov and is more comfortable out of the box. For pcvr only I would definitely recommend pico. If you are wanting standalone content go for the quest (or quest 3 when it releases)
@@shawnrains4047 Thx bro, i dont need stand alone vr because i have spent so many money on my pc, its a waste to focus on stand alone, cause i have to buy the game again so pcvr is my prioritu, i already have vr games in steam so thats why hehe..Thx bro, i almost waste money at quest again
My anxiety is indescribable in just first 2 mins of video
but a big respect that someone actually do this to tell us what NOT TO DO !😂
I'm confused.. I thought the reviews are meant to be before the torture test?
Got my Pico 4 just a few days ago and for the price it's amazing, stream from my pc with virtual desktop.
Only cons might be battery time 2 ish hours, but easily solved with the right power bank.
And the other con is the virtual desktop app costs money. But you can't really complain about that when you see how well it works.
You should do a durability test of the Quest 3. As much as I don't want to see one be destroyed I'm curious if its as tuff as the Quest 2 or if the newer hardware isn't as tough.
the sandpaper test on the lens hurt my soul.
I picked up a Pico 4 not long ago (eBay, around $390 after shipping) it quickly replaced my Quest 2 as I do more PCVR than anything. (there are ways to get you quest purchases on your Pico from what Ive read but I havent tried it yet) I evebn compared it with the Quest Pro when went on sale last year. After about a half hour, the Quest Pro was boxed back up and returned to Best Buy, I like the Pico 4 THAT much. While the Quest Pro had better controllers, the Pico 4 was just a better headset overall. My only real gripe is the Pico market, they REALLY need some more games in there.
I totally agree. I'm a Pico 4 owner who also sold my Quest 2 one month after owning a Pico. I also tried the Pro just yesterday and it was very underwhelming. It's crazy to be able to compare the Pico 4 to the Pro but you actually can as there really isn't much difference and there are quite a few things that Pico does better.
I really hope the quest 3 is a Pico 4 beater as it'll suck if the only thing it does better is the new chipset
damn, if only I had a bigger room to be able actually play vr 😔
Dropping controllers : rememeber that there is STRAPS to avoid this; is people stupid ?
Pico likely applied a hardcoat like a UV acrylic. Decent coatings can usually withstand scratching from something like steel wool. You should be able to buff the scratches out of your lenses with enough effort, even the 80 grit. This is basically the same way you remove the yellowing from old car headlight covers. You just need to gradually work through the deep scratches with ever finer grit at each stage, down to as fine a grit as you can go, like 1000 or even 3000, the finer the final grit stage the better. Eventually you use a fine liquid polishing compound. You'll have all but completely removed the hardcoating layer though. In theory, you might be able to put a new protective coating on just like what they do with automotive headlight covers.
I'm thinking of changing my VR headset from Quest 2 to Pico. I really want a lighter PC VR headset and that has nice wight balance. Thanks for testing the durability on this because I was kind of worried about it being a piece cheap plastic
Wait... The Pico 4 is on sale now???
That dolphin sample is actually the noise of a Kookaburra
The first ten seconds of this video made me want to cry, who hurt you??
in the full review could you mention if pico 4 or quest 2 is better for pcvr exclusively?
thank you for being such an amazing content creator.
love you.
That's why it takes so long for him to make a review. I switched to pico from quest and i still can't answer this question with certain. My case is pico has suitable IPD for my eyes and quest don't. In other terms they are just different.
great work!
thanks for the fun video
Cmon Thrill we're not even getting a full review after all this time? I really love your content but especially a upcoming brand like Pico could've benefited immensely from a full review, making the VR space more diverse.
Heya Thrill! Any update on your VR cover colab? Just got a M2 Plus strap and need to complete it with a fov increasing face gasket.
Where did you but the pico4? For the US at least?
Why is yeeting the headset across the room so funny to me😂
Hey are you going to buy Brain computer interface headset for a torture test when they come out? The cheaper one is only $24k... not that much right?
2:53 Thrill is objectifying woman. Canceled.
Thank you for the durability test.
Where did you buy the pico 4 pro with eye and mouth tracking cameras from?
So where is the actual Pico4 review?