What One Plugin Could You Not Live Without When Mixing?
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- Опубликовано: 2 мар 2024
- In this video I discuss what one plugin I could not live without. There are many plugins I use in every session. There is one plugin however that has been a fixture in every session for a good 10 years now.
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That Ampex ATR-102 is on 100 % of my mixes as well. It fits every genre of music and you can do so much with it in terms of sculpting the sound.
Add life, add depth, glue a mix. The list is endless.
100% yes, on every mix. It is "the finishing touch".
I couldnt agree more with everything you say. It just works and gives a mix a really nice vibe . I tend to mix into itl from the start.
You're right, there's something special about the ATR102 plugin and nothing sounds like it, amazing considering how old it is. You can tell a great deal of care was made in designing it, with all the calibration controls etc. I agree with everything you say here, and I'm using lots of analog myself.
It was revolutionary 10 years ago. To this day it's at the top of its game.
Uhe Satin! Acoustica Audio Taupe is good also!
Always in my mix bus since long time !!! works really well also in combination with other transformer plugin (the true Iron, P42)
Have you tried the TAIP plugin by baby audio? I have the UAD studer and oxide but just use them for tracking.
And you get this marvel included in the LUNA Pro bundle along with the API summing. Incredible
Cupwise Ax102 here although Nebula is a quirky PITA. Fidelity is the best though IMO.
I’m used to Studer....will demo and test ATR now for another two weeks 😂
I thought it was just me, that thing is magical.
I think the IKMultimedia tape collection tops them all though it's fairly cpu heavy but it sounds like the reel to real I once owned.
I disagree uad is better
@@444InlakeshI've been comparing all my tapes plugins this morning and ended up replacing them all with my Zynaptiq Intensity. It gives me more control, saturation and clarity.
Yes, and IK Multimedia has more flavors
im not an engineer. im an artist/producer but when i produce i do so with the idea of how i actually want this mix to sound for the record im working on. I have this on my mixbus always. i was lucky and got it for $20 on a bunch of coupons and during a sale and its just helped me on this project that im working on.
HOW ONG AGO WAS THAT? i paid like alot of money for uad . other companies like waves and PA dont dont dig as deep into my wallet
Sonible Smart Eq would be a tough one to give up
Amazing - Would be on board the the train to see your process with this plug in especially after 10 years of experience with it. Very easy plug in to dial in ~ totally not a 'magic setting for all' type plug in, but would be interested to hear you talk more about it while talking about some of the controls.
Lots of people have asked this, I'm going to look at doing a video this week on it.
@@AudioAnimalsStudioThat would be great to see!
Any news on that video@@AudioAnimalsStudio
@@IThor-wb4di I have it recorded. Just needs editing and uploading. Will upload ASAP.
This is just making me want it more 😭 I do love the UAD Studer though especially on acoustic guitar.
I find the ampex and studer to be very different. Using the ampex I've found you have more ability to change the sound.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio Well that didn’t help, I want it even more now! 🤣
ive just done a whole record using the uad studer a800 on every bus and the 2bus. its transformed my mixes and the way i work. cant wait for uad to make the ampex native so i can this out !
And in my opinion the ampex is better than the studer. I fell uad will hold back the ampex for a long time. They know this is one plugin that ensures they keep selling satellites while it's exclusive to the uad dsp.
Any thoughts on Acustica Taupe? I like its soft clipping compression and glue more than other tape plugins I've tried (though I haven't tried UA) but sometimes the eq shift is too drastic, even if it's realistic.
Taupe is a nice plugin. Which you like to you comes down to taste. I've used the ampex for a good 10 years so know it very well.
Thanks for the "secret setting" long awaited😃😁
No, that is a setting from a screenshot of the internet on the thumbnail. I will actually do a video on how to get the right settings.
I am looking forward to it. Thanks in advance@@AudioAnimalsStudio
Paul, I am curious have you tried Goodhertz Tupe? It is a tape and tube saturator. If you have what is your take on it? Do you combine the Ampex tape emulator with Kazrog True Iron? If you do which comes first in the chain? Please advise. Thanks for the video and your take on plugins and hardware gear.
The Ampex is always at the start of the chain. True Iton is at the end of the chain.
Oh, I forgot. Have you seen this new plugin by Kiive Audio called NFuse? it appears to be a combination of the Master Bus Transformer and the Fusion.
Yeah, it looks great. I will review the plugin next week. As well as comparing to hardware.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio Awesome!!! I cannot wait.
@@AudioAnimalsStudioI can think of no one better to do it
@@AudioAnimalsStudio perfect !
@@AudioAnimalsStudiocan you check out that sidecar plugin by pulsar modular?
Thank you Paul!, how do you compare it with the Crane Song Phoenix II? Which speed do you prefer on the ATR?. Regards.
I use the ampex at 15ips mostly. Sometimes will use 30ips for drums and strings etc. I haven't directly compared this to the crane song.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio Thanks for responding Paul. Do you use/like the Phoenix?
Soothe 2… It’s so damn effective and versatile. I can’t live without it now. A big time saver
100% agree. Soothe 2 is on every bus along with the Ampex.
@@AudioAnimalsStudiodo you always custom-tailor it on the buses or do you have a preset you made for every group and tweak from there?
@JoeyFTL every instance of the ampex start from a preset I have created. From here I will adjust to what is required for each instance. I'm going to a video next week on how people can create their own preset to work from.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio I'm sorry, I was referring to Soothe 2, I should have been more specific
@@JoeyFTL soothe 2 has its own unique setting for every instance.
Good speech
Unfortunately, the Ampex ATR-102 isn´t Native, and only works with Apollo hardware. :( I´ve recently invested in a LOT of Apollo/Native plugins, and I like them a lot. I´ve used their Studer Tape machine for the same purpose, as well as the Softube Tape, and WAVES Eddie Kramer Tape, and they all add something positive to the mix, and give it a certain polish and warmth. If UA finally makes the ATR-102 a Native plugin, I will definitely buy one when they have their next big sale. Thanks for the tip.
Agreed - that is my fav. plugin of UAD. I quit UAD a year ago because of the antiquated ecosystem , and them never updating plugins, but i CANT wait for this to be released natively. I think they are delaying this just to punish me :).
I think this will be the last plugin to go native. They know this is the one plugin that is keeping dsp alive for them now they've gone native.
Could you recommend another plugin as good as Ampex? I'm on UAD Spark, but at the moment we have only Studer and Oxide.
studer is great. i just finished an album with it on every bus and the mixbus. results are awesome
the oxide is okay i would use it more for saturation on drums and guitars though. the studer gets more of that “tape sound” without pushing it into the red.
100% true
Can you do a video how you setup and use the atr 102 🙌
Yes this is on my list to do
Have you tried combining the ATR-102 and the A800? All I have to say is... try it!
Yes, not a huge fan of the studer though. The Ampex has always been the better tape plugin for me.
Agree
except for the aux busses do you add an instance on the mixbus? and, in what order of the chain? thx
I don't find it is beneficial to add an instance to the master bus as well as each bus.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio thx:)
hope they make it native plugin, because thats maybe the only tape plugin i havent tried, because im not gonna spend 1k on uad interface just to try this one u know. What is the closest alternative u would recomend?
I hope so too. It's one I know they'll be holding back. As soon as it becomes native I'll be selling my uad satellites. Only uad plugin I use every session without fail.
Hi Paul. How does this plug in compare to the Roger Mayer 542's that you use? Do you use one more than the other?
The Roger Mayer 456's I don't have anymore. I swapped them out as they were a touch noisey for mastering. When compared to the atr 102 they could be considered similar. The Royer Mayer has more of a unique sound to it. I can't say I ever directly compared the two.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio Valuable info Paul thank you. Have you had any experience with the Neve 542s and if so how do you think they compare to the Roger Mayer 456?
@lukeneptune3820 I prefer the RN 542s because they are not noisy, they also sound just as good, plus you gain silk textures. I used to have 542s and swapped them out for the portico 2 which was recently replaced by the MBT as it has super silk. I wish RN would have put the 542s in the MBT instead of the compressor.
@@AudioAnimalsStudio mate. If they’d have put a tape sim in the MBT I wouldn’t have started this whole conversation 😆 Still love my MBT to death though. It makes me wonder if RND are planning on bringing out a rack version of the 452 in the future
@lukeneptune3820 I hope they do. I want to get in touch with them and tell them exactly what should be made and we as consumers want.
Audio Animal, do you use it in every track or in every bus in your mixes?
Yes, every bus. For every mix.
Thank you!!! @@AudioAnimalsStudio
have you tried IK tapes?
Yes. From what I remember, was pretty good
If plug-ins are virtually always inferior to the hardware counterpart, which I agree that they are, why not just use the hardware and not bother with the plug-in? I know you don't use 500 series stuff for mastering, but wouldn't the RND 542's, for example, be better than even the best tape plug-in?
Because from a mixing perspective, I would neve 100 542s minimum. I would then need to recall all 100 542s every mix revision. From a mastering perspective much better off using hardware over plugin.
Good explanation!@@AudioAnimalsStudio. I wouldn't mind hearing a mix with 100 542's, though! Could I request that? ha.
I like my studer j37. Forget the softube rubbish. I tried other ones - they don't impress at all.
Sonimus Britson
it is the best 100%
I'm sure that tape plugin is great but, doing a mix with just that and no eqs or compressors would be quite the challenge!
Whenever someone asks me this question, the answer is always a channel strip plug-in
But that's not the question. The question you are answering is "if you could only use one plugin to mix a track what plugin would it be?" And the answer to that is an all in one plugin like ozone 11, because it has every plugin in one. This question isn't saying you can't use other plugins.
@@AudioAnimalsStudioI do agree that it would be a boring answer if everyone named different channel strips. The plug in you can't live without would be a desert island plug in, no?
The desert island disks format would allow you to pick 8 plugins and 2 unique plugins.
@@AudioAnimalsStudiooh okay.
Well either way I love your analogue setup, man! Your video topics are great too.
@RealHomeRecording thank you. It's a good question you ask though. If you had to choose one plugin to mix an entire song what would be it be. Or a better question would be if you could pick one plugin brand to mix an entire song with who would it be. For that I'd pick fab filter.