The character of phoenix was treated just like every other minor character. Isn’t that equality? Why does she need a bigger role when the movies not about her?
She didn’t even get treated like the other minor characters she got more focus and screen time above the others with the exception of maybe Rooster for obvious reasons
1:54 "So Miles Teller comes in and he blows that jet out of the air - well, it wasn't that high up in the air because it was firing on Tom Cruise on the ground." It wasn't that high up in the air because it was a helicopter.
I love how you consider Phoenix to be an afterthought/ someone in the background yet catch yourself mid point and realize she was one of the pilots selected for the mission.
Not every film needs female empowerment and representation. The film is set in the military with is a male environment but yes women are in the military and you did have that depicted in this film. It shouldn't be an issue that Phenoix didn't have a bigger role because she was just as important to the story as all the other male pilots. She was not sexualized or objectified. Just saying not every area of representation is going to be in every movie you watch.
She'll probably be the only one involved who wins an oscar! Sadly I'm only half kidding but I've seen worse in the last 10 years or at least it seems that way!🙄
Phoenix got picked because her and Bob were the only two that had a near death experience during training. So they knew what it took for the mission to get done. They would have less fear and more mentally ready Thats my take away Grace. Anybody else feel the same ?
I thought, within the logic of the movie, that Maverick picked them because they didn't have the arrogance of Hangman - but your explanation makes sense.
No, I don't think Phoenix and Bob weren't picked because of their crash. They proved to be very dependable during training and Phoenix was a competent pilot.
Completely disagree I think they handled the character of Phoniex wonderfully. She was a great pilot and was picked. Don't know how much u want Grace... If u watch the other movie the other pilots were not featured.. She got great screen time and it wasn't done in a way to just do it for the heck of it.
I can't finish this review. Goose was not shot down per se, they were hit and they ejected. Phoenix was a good character. None the the "bestest evarrrr" eye rolling cringe that are most female characters nowadays. She was serious about her job and had chemistry and competence as a member of the team. This movie was everything I hoped for and didn't really think we would get. Loved it.
I thought Phoenix was portrayed perfectly… not forced, not shoe horned, reminded me of Vasquez from Aliens and that is saying something. I don’t want to see women on the screen BECAUSE they’re women, I want it to feel natural and top gun maverick nailed it!
In my opinion, every military scene in this movie were especially the chemistry between the pilots were handled way better than the original. It's actually very rare that a sequel managed to be better than the original, in this case better than the classic. Easily one of my favourite movies of the whole year, I've never been this satisfied with a tent pole blockbuster in a recent years
100% agree. This movie should be the blueprint for how to revive a nostalgia franchise without overdoing fan service but giving fans what they want to see. Star Wars could take some notes.
The only thing with the pilots was they're appearance of cockiness. When Phoenix said we're all the best, who are they going to get to teach us, no fighter pilot (especially a Topgun graduate) would ever say that. And Hangman was just a douche who looked out for himself, at the expense of his team. Fighter pilots are humble, focused and consummate professionals. There was a lot of hidden animosity between some of the pilots, which isn't very realistic either. But, they needed to create tension for the sake of the story.
Strongly disagree there. The chemistry between Maverick, Goose, Iceman and a few of the others was much more engaging. It wouldn't have become the classic it has without it. The original also has classic memorable lines. This one hasn't.
@@PhilMoskowitz without memorable lines, every plane scene was shot way better than the original. Yes they do have excellent chemistry, way better than the first and yet the flight sequences were shot a lot better than the original. I don't think anyone was wasted
It kinda bothers me that Grace almost sees everything as boys vs girls, or white vs BAME, like there’s teams to this - we’re all equal - the best movies for progression are ones like Tenet - there’s a black lead with a strong female co lead without it being over emphasised- the creators just normalise it without making it a central focus
Yeah she is ridiculous. This movie was about Maverick relationship with Goose’s son. The movie is literally called Maverick. Besides I thought everyone had a good amount screen time.
@@Poraqui this is why I haven’t really been a fan of Grace since around like 2018. Can’t we judge a movie based on it storytelling, technical aspects, and it’s overall fun factor just like 99% of the people and not see if it checks every box in an agenda
oh thankful it wasnt just me that thought Grace's rant was over the top. Like Phoenix was 1 of 11 other pilots besides Rooster. She had ALOT more screen time than alot of the others but her character did have a personal connection with Maverick and Im glad they didnt try and force it.
The female pilot wasn’t the main character. She held as much significance as BOB and the other male pilots that weren’t the MAIN CHARACTERS. Come on Grace. I love your reviews but no need to REACH for female representation. The female character was THE pilot he trusted to go on the mission with him and she kept up with MAVERICK. That’s awesome
@@IacopoCutino00 Maverick being the main character was the right and the best choice. Not saying Tom doesn't have an ego, but who can blame him when he's as dedicated an actor as he is. A sequel can work with a new main character, but I'm sure almost everyone are more than happy with Tom returning for the leading role
I'm conflicted by Grace's comments at the end about the female pilot and 'not making enough of her'. Equality means they should be treated equally - and I think she had similar screentime to the other secondary characters (less than Rooster but the same as the other pilots who flew the final mission). If they had singled her out and made her 'better' or given much more screentime to her than the males, that would have been seen as pushing a message. I'm not American, but I am ex-military and I loved this film. I also saw the women in my cinema (maybe 30/70 female/male split) cheer, laugh and react just as excitedly as us guys did. The poster shows a poc pilot and a female pilot, at the same size as the others - isn't that the equality that we are wanting to achieve in cinema?
Equality doesn't mean everyone gets treated the same. Her character was pretty bland compared to the others. The women in this could def have been written better
@@Azenithf It's not unrealistic though. In real life, particularly in military aviation, they mostly just struggle to stay in the game. Sorry but it's true. I've been around may 50 like her character and they don't necessarily excel, but they aren't the worst either. They play it safe and have other priorities in life, so you can't expect them to be like Maverick (or their real life male counterparts) simply because women don't have the same interests. Maverick was also doing his own aircraft maintenance in the movie, women rarely if ever learn to do this as pilots. I've never seen a single one.
I’m in San Diego and our audience went absolutely CRAZY. I couldn’t hear parts of the film because the packed theater was just incredible. By far the best film of the year!
Just a couple of things, when Rooster was shot down you see Tom Cruise looking at the parachute and where it was landing. Also the enemy had newer "fifth generation" fighters that where way more maneuverable than the F-18 they were piloting. You see this when Tom Cruise shoots a missile at one an it does this crazy stop midair and flies by them and both Teller and Cruise go.. wtf.. The "old" jet they get on are F-14's same one's from the first movie. I would have loved to see Meg Ryan in this but the whole point of the rift between them depended on her being gone.
Yes, sometimes Grace really misses the obvious stuff… the camera held on Maverick watching Rooster’s shoot for long enough to register where he would land 😅
It was a proper film, I enjoy my franchises as much as the next person but this was just a quality Old School blockbuster made on modern terms. It’s great cinema and it’s been a long time since we’ve seen something like it and it stands out
When Maverick says… “he already resents me… why make him resent her (dead Meg Ryan)…” Such an adult choice… that we need more of. I’m ok with Meg Ryan not being in the film for this.
Phoenix reminded me of a lot of women in the military. We are few but are very reliable and keep the team together. that's the kind of what I got from her.
Before I started watching this video I knew Grace would have a problem with the female representation in this movie and boy she delivered. The reason this movie is being received so well is because there isn't agendas and forced characters for representation.
@@mark4163 The thing is this movie was as equal to everyone that wasn't named Maverick or Rooster - which the movie was mostly focused about. Phoenix was treated respectfully and like everyone else in the squadron. Like, what the fuck more could you ask for? This is exactly what you wanted.
@@hadriangonzalez607 Some more interesting female involvement could be worked into it while still prioritzing the narratives of the men in the film- the screenwriters would just need to be a bit more creative in that area.
As a Meg Ryan fan, I don’t think she should appear in the movie. Tom made the promise to her character at her death bed, I feel another death scene would detract the impact and significance of the other death scene in the movie. She already appeared in photos and flashback, that was enough and appropriate.
Grace......you seriously need to seek out a female fighter pilot(s) and get their perspective on how female pilots are treated in a squadron. They are treated as equals, especially if they're a competent pilot. That's exactly how Phoenix was treated. She wasn't looked down upon.....she was a competent pilot and didn't need a bigger role in the movie. As for the phone on the bar......when you're on a squadron bar, there are rules that must be followed, or yes, you're going to be buying drinks for everyone. It is an actual thing in the military. Penny didn't do that out of spite......military bars have rules and everyone there knows them.
Exactly. Grace clearly expected Phoenix to suddenly morph into Captain Marvel and use infinity stones to blast through the enemy fighters. And the whole world should stand up and clap for Phoenix. That's probably how grace wanted the script to end. Seriously, her expectations for over-done diversity need to stop. The movie did it perfectly, showing phoenix was a top gun like everyone else in the team. No more, no less. That is TRUE equality.
@@hunsters1705 Exactly. Aside from the "who the hell is going to teach us" comment from Phoenix, she really represented the quintessential female fighter pilot.....gave the guys a run for their money, didn't take crap from anyone and she was a competent pilot, who had the respect of her peers. He accolades spoke to her character, not the fact she is a women.
@@tygressblade as a male, phoenixs character stood out a whole lot more than any of the other side characters outside of rooster.. hell when they were scrambling it was her and Maverick that were engaging in a lot of call signs to escape. I don't get Grace sometimes but she needs to chill out. Some times a story just has a story to tell.. It doesn't need to push anything.
I actually think the reason Hangman was benched is because they felt he would be the most likely to reach in time to provide support later on. Seems like a good call.
No....Hangman was a liability as he was so full of himself and didn't work as a team player. If it were me, I wouldn't have wanted him in the mission either.
Phoenix was handled just right. She was one of the best pilots, if not the best pilot. She had the skills, she was a badass, and she didn't need to tell anyone because it was obvious. She didn't need to be highlighted because it was conveyed without words. That's how to handle a strong female character. When it's overly highlighted, it screams insecurity.
Actually she didn't.... she didn't follow any procedures at all during the birdstrike. Every one of her actions was contrary to real life. I know it's a movie, but personality as a hollywood actor doesn't mean you're a good pilot. I'd call her mediocre in this movie.
Exactly! AND she never feels the need to lecture or mock or belittle her male counterparts. She doesn't need to tell everyone how good she is and she never demands respects. She earned it. And she forms an amazing team with Bob without emasculating him. Bob is still awesome in his own right and he proves that you can be shy and awkward but still be skilled and talented and damn good at what you do. Both characters manage to be great represantation without ramming an agenda down your throat.
Seriously Grace, you shouldn’t let representation determine what is and isn’t a good film. This is a movie that’s meant to be entertaining, which it succeeded at. And not every characters can be fully explored, because movies have time-limits.
Grace you not liking the first Top Gun is the whole reason why there should be movies targeted for certain demographics and not four quadrant. Majority of older men are going to love both Top Gun movies. Just like I wouldn't watch Downton Abbey and don't understand it but there is a market for it.
Well, I'm female and black, and in my 50s. There's 3 demos, I guess.😄 The 4th is that I LOVE Tom Cruise action movies. He never cheats the fans. High quality stuff always.
It's not about demographics here. She does not understand what the movie was about. The two main leads are Tom and Miles. That's who the focus was always going to be on in the last act. She does not understand that.
seems very off-putting to solely focus on the lack of the females role in the movie when clearly a lot of characters clearly were minor characters. classic grace being grace.
The older plane that Grace is referring to is an F-14 tomcat that he flew in top gun. That’s when most of the people in my theater lost their collective bananas, myself among them. :-)
First off, Maverick chose the female pilot as the one he trusted to do the mission at the end. What do you mean she wasn’t significant? Just because she didn’t outshine every male character doesn’t mean she didn’t have a pivotal role in the film. I don’t see any reason why that is a point to be brought up but whatever
Exactly! It's like she expects Phoenix to suddenly be imbued with captain marvel powers and blast through the enemy jets with an infinity stone, and the whole world stood up and clapped. Absolutely ridiculous expectations from Grace.
She wasn't narratively significant, is what I think Grace is pointing out. She's portrayed as highly competent, but not of particular narrative interest- and this is a reasonably narrative-driven film. To be fair, most of the men like Hondo, weren't really either- Tom Cruise tend to be very much about Tom Cruise, often with minor exception- The Edge of Tomorrow being a somewhat larger exception. Still, the proportion of elaborated male characters to elaborated female characters in big Hollywood films is still fairly lopsided.
Grace Randolph, who also said there should be a female hedgehog in the sonic movies, complained about the lack of females in Top gun: Maverick. Grace admitted that she knew this movie would be about Maverick facing his demons when he is forced to teach Rooster, the late Goose's son. There was a subplot about Maverick meeting Iceman again, used to illustrate why Maverick didn't seek to be promoted beyond being a "captain." There was a movie called An Officer and a Gentleman. That movie didn't need many female characters to provide a good story. Grace is up to her usual habits to demanding more females in movies. I don't see her demanding more males in the movie 355.
She did not demanded more females , but an ark for the female. Other person I the comments mention then the women were not different that other secondary characters , so he was correct , but you are nots
Exactly I agree. The story was about Maverick and Rooster….I don’t understand people feeling the need to shoehorn female characters into every single story as a super important character, It isn’t always needed. The female characters in this movie were great IMO. Go watch a current marvel movie if you want Mary sue female characters.
I almost *never* go out of my way to go see a movie on a premium movie screen, I'm always pretty happy with my local screens. But for this one I got to see it in Imax with my parents, and it was one of the best movie experiences I ever had. The sound, the visuals, I felt like I was experiencing the flights *with* the characters instead of watching it. It just baffles my mind that this type of movie still gets made, I always say that they don't make 'em like they used to, but this is everything I want from a summer blockbuster. Classic hollywood, in the best way possible. For the people wondering: The Gaga song is played through most of the score, and it is played during the final scenes.
Loved this movie! I don’t think Meg Ryan acts anymore. Also Jennifer Connelly’s character was mentioned in the first movie. There was a Penny that Meg Ryan’s character says was an Admiral’s daughter that he snuck around with.
Grace it wasn't a jet that was about to shoot down Maverick, it was a military helicopter. LOL and it was in an open area lmaooooo. And of course Miles's Rooster found him because he followed him, disobeying, of course, a direct order from Cyclone (Jon Hamm). I think you may have to re-watch the film again Gracie. LOL
Why is it a bad thing to have a movie about men mostly ? Its not. Even tho theres a bad rep about that, its important to keep it because woman dont have to stick their noses in everything. Just like men shouldnt have to stick theirs into women stuff. And aviation is mostly a man thing, so the representation was accurate.
I'm so glad many of the comments equal mine. I thought Phoenix's role was spot on. I Loved her on scene and Bob. But the movie wasn't really about them or the other pilots. Not every movie needs to have this representation you constantly seek. There was no agenda here. Just a solid enjoyable movie. Clean
The fact is, I think the representation *was* there. Phoenix was repeatedly shown to be just as strong and skilled as any of the male pilots. After Rooster & Hangman, she probably had the most screentime & dialogue...
My favorite scene in the movie is when they are running away from the two enemy fighters and unleashing their flares and stuff. And Rooster runs out of flares but still has two missiles coming at him. And then Maverick flies his jet right above Rooster and releases his flares protecting him. That was probably the coolest thing I have seen in a long time. Totally badass and heroic.
Glen Powell is a standout yet again. Great character which is kinda crazy as they wrote the character in last second when he didn’t get the role of Rooster If I’m not mistaken.I’ve been fan casting him as Human Torch for a while now and his performance here is further proof of how perfect he is for that character.
What makes the 3rd act incredible is the set up, directly or indirectly, the first movie and first two acts of the 2nd movie did. Absolutely incredible film
I used to work on an aircraft carrier and even got to work on a blue angels show. This movie hit me with nostalgia. The sound and power of a jet as it takes off could really be felt with the directing.
Surprised you didn’t mention that 3rd act was pretty leading to putting Maverick and Goose/Rooster back into an F-14 again, JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL. I should’ve seen this coming when they mention the enemy has F-14 in the base lol
"I should’ve seen this coming when they mention the enemy has F-14 in the base lol" They prevented us from thinking it's a set-up for an action sequence by using it as a set-up for a punchline: "Seems like we're not the only ones holding onto old relics." Clever screenwriting, much better than in the original.
I love you to death Grace, but this comment on the women in the movie, I just don't agree (though, I do agree about Meg not being there, a big miss). I think this Phoenix character was just right, she didn't need to be treated differently for being a woman, she was treated as the rest of the guys, she was as good and was even put in front with an important mission. Only that, as you rightly said, it was about Maverick and Rooster, and there was no time for character development. And Penny was able to show us how vulnerable Maverick was, not that cocky-arrogant first Maverick. Keep'em coming Grace, love your videos.
The second enemy pilot in the 5th gen fighter was a hotshot. It wasn't just that his plane was awesome. You could tell from his moves that he was like an enemy top gun.
In addition to the perfectly balanced narrative, inspiring visuals and superb soundtrack, Maverick also has another important aspect: he brings up a feeling that has been missing in theaters for a long time, that feeling of ''Real Cinema'' made the old-fashioned way, with few effects. The roar of the jet engines is real, the reactions of the Pilots is real, the Story for more fanciful is believable, the Emotions that surround the Characters are perfectly capable of being felt by us too (at some point in our lives, or even during the exhibition), of course not in an extraodinary context of the Navy but still are true emotions and feelings, I'm clapping because all this joins nostalgia, watching this Movie is an Experience.
This movie is now projected to make $150 million opening weekend which is insane. It will double Cruise's previous B.O. record with WOTW which made $64 million way back in 2005. Cruise is on top once again!
you had to mess it up by talking about the women. women hijacked loki, women hijacked kenobi, women highjacked the guy who shots arrows. can we just have one move where the wonen arent messing things up with the feelings. oh there was a movie with 4 women made by the people that made jason bourne. and it bombed. now if that girl has an 8 pack like those men hand then she can get a bigger role
Seriously, there are more important issues than a character like Phoenix getting more or less screen time than anyone else. The movie is not called Top Gun: Phoenix. It's Top Gun: Maverick. Also, she was one of the pilots selected by Maverick himself for the mission. She's a good, strong female character without being toxic. The last thing we need is more toxic movie characters. We have too many already.
Buying rounds in a bar is a very Navy and military tradition. That’s why there is a bell in all military centric bars. You break bar rules you buy or have a cause for celebration. It’s a respect thing as well as a honor thing.
JJ Abrams, Rian Johnson and the rest of those fanfic writers for Disney/Star Wars could take some notes from this movie. This is how you make a sequel.
one of the most realest piece of cinema of all time, the ending twist got me for the first time ever!!, P.S the act 3 where tom cruise stole the jet i hear mission impossible theme music in my head lol who else?
I think the part of pulling Rooster application from the academy means he had to go Navy ROTC route in the university. Also, the bar scene is kinda traditions in the bases, with different conditions between different bases I believe. Phoenix is a great depiction imo, she need no special treatment. She was treated as equal. Isn’t that the whole point?
It's quite unreasonable to expect a girl power theme from Top Gun: Maverick. Honestly, the movie already checked off so many boxes, that you're just nitpicking on miscellaneous errors.
Don’t agree with the critique on the female pilot: Isn’t that the goal, to not make a big deal of a gender? She was just there - like all the other guys. Not your typical „strong female character“; just one of the guys. But tbh absolutely EVERYTHING here was like an exact copy of a 90s movie - even those stereotypes, like the one female member of the group. But it was all so enjoyable, although outside the US this whole patriotism will never fully work. :-) And I hated Lady Gaga’s song, the weakest element of an otherwise awesome (!) soundtrack.
Agree. You know equality is recognizing, that recognition is minimal. She was supporting character, not main... It's not like they treated the female characters poorly. Should they treated the female roles with more attention... Wouldn't that disrespect the name of the of the movie?
I agree Lars well said. Not every movie has to be a political statement. In fact that's ruining movies and just making good fun movies. I can imagine her critique of " Heat" if it came out today... What no female sociopath felon thief???
I agree Lars well said. Not every movie has to be a political statement. In fact that's ruining movies and just making good fun movies. I can imagine her critique of " Heat" if it came out today... What no female sociopath felon thief???
Phoenix and Penny were my two favorites! Phoenix, from the moment she stepped in frame… I felt she could keep up with ANYONE, not just “the Boys”! Great acting. Connelly is the non-military heart of the film. She gives him the pep-talk to go back in and fight for his students. I DO wish it had been Phoenix, not Hangman, that saved them near the end though. She’ll be back.
phoenix and bob were some of my favorite characters of the film and having remembering the original film well I had genuine concern for them during the second acts "accident". I felt she would have been #1 had maverick or rooster not been the bigger players of the story.
It drives me nuts that there are people online saying you have to see the first one before seeing Top Gun Maverick. That is going to be hurdle for many people since the concensus seems to be that the new one is better than the first one in almost every way. Please don't rob yourself of the experience of seeing this one in a theater just because you can't bring yourself to watch the original. It will reward people who have seen it but it is not at all necessary to have one of the best theater experiences of the year.
As is the case with any sequel, you'll have more of an appreciation for certain things, but it's definitely not a requirement. I haven't seen Top Gun in well over a decade and remember next to nothing about it yet I had a great time in this one
@@Bayuuk agree totally. But some people just aren't going to want to watch it. Being told you have to watch a 36 year old movie before you check out the hottest movie in theaters right now is going to feel like homework to some, so they'll never watch either. And Top Gun Maverick deserves a wide audience, and no one should miss out on it while it's on the big screen. I'm a fan of 80's movies myself, but not everyone is. Top Gun Maverick is a Top Gun for a new generation.
I rewatched Top Gun a couple of weeks ago and loved it! Such a cool 80s movie. People should branch out more and watch older stuff. Shame they can’t be bothered.
That wasn't a jet that was attacking Tom Cruise after he got grounded, that was an attack chopper. Come on now Grace, gotta know the difference between jets and helicopters
In case no one else has mentioned this: Rooster shot down a Soviet era Mi-24 Hind HELICOPTER gunship to save Maverick's life. Please get this important distinction correct!
In case no one knew this; Meg Ryan (Carole) mentioned Penny, his ex girlfriend -watch the dinner scene w/ Maverick, Charlie, Goose, Carole and "Rooster" She wasn't a "made up " character just for specifically for this movie
I love the movie too, follow Grace advice. I don’t see the weakness she talks about. The movie is pretty well rounded and can’t be just action. It’s a uplifting movie ( do you remember those ?) . It old school as she say , lot of smiles etc. I will agree that I’d better than the first. This is not a Grace movie I am surprised that she like it. The women: I am more concerned that they were all mean, she does not mention the intentional hit to the groin by the pilot that wanted to have fun (sexual assault if the society was not also misandrist). This is an old style movie, so they did a basic inclusion / diversity points but it’s all about a story they want to tell. Everything else is soft and not get almost no time.
Here’s a little insight into military bars on base… there are unwritten rules that all military members are aware of before entering. For example, if you put your cover (hat, flight cap) on the bar, you have to buy a round of drinks for the everyone in the bar. Another example, is if someone taps a RMO (military round metal object or coin) on the bar and you’re unable to show your RMO then you have to buy a round of drinks for everyone in the bar…however, if everyone is able to show their RMO then the person that started it owes everyone a drink. These rules vary depending on service but they definitely exist and, yes, it can be costly.
The movie is literally about maverick not women pilots. She was literally chosen to be a top pilot but it wasn’t enough lmao. Man stop every movie isn’t a political women showdown
Watching this again tonight. Hopefully my friends find it as enjoyable as me . Enjoyed the spoiler review . I'm happy for Tom cruise and Paramount with the box office success .
You have remember what Jennifer Connelly's character's daughter said when Tom jumped down from the window, her daughter said "Don't break her heart again." That got Maverick thinking about what direction he needed to take the relationship with Peggy. I'm definitely in the group of people who understood and accepted Jennifer's role in the movie. I thought she was beautiful, attractive, and just the right motivation for Maverick after being grounded by the Air Boss, and Maverick didn't know what to do.
I saw twice Imax and once 4DX. Jennifer served the purpose of keeping Tom on track. Kelly could have done that, but whatever. It was fine. Phoenix literally flew right behind Maverick on the final mission. If she doesn't do her job, the first miracle is a failure. Hangman was sitting on the aircraft carrier twiddling his thumbs while Phoenix flew the main mission. What extra does she need to do to gain respect? It's already established they are already Top Gun graduates. When I realized the F-14 was about to be flown again... Genuine tears. Was not expecting that because a few real military pilots kept stressing the F-14 is retired and only flyable in a couple countries. They said it didn't make sense to see an F-14 in the trailer. Well, this movie took that knowledge and used it as a gotcha! In the 80's, my friends and I loved two vehicles. The Lamborghini Countach and the F-14 Tomcat. I still have my art and posters of both.
How are Maverick and Rooster Gary Sue's ???????!!!!!!! Rooster literally had an issue with being too cautious Maverick keeps self destructing and keeps getting saved by Ice smh Grace
So disappointed Jurassic World was sold out this evening. But then my wife and I decided to leave the kids at home and take a date night to watch Top Gun. I am sooo glad Jurassic World was sold out and we went to see this! This movie is ridiculously good from start to finish. Absolutely amazing!
Omg Grace, enough with the feminist comments. The woman was chosen just like Bob. We don't anything about Bob either.... This story is about Rooster and Maverick. Of course they won't focus on women being a pilot or not.
Did you really watch the movie? It was a helicopter Rooster shot down to save Maverick, not a fighter. And he knew were Rooster was because he watched him parachute down.
Great review! Basically the same thoughts I had watching itFor me this is a star turn for Miles Teller and Glen Powell; I was really surprised with their performances and I hope they get something big out of this. Val Kilmer and Tom Cruise are Hollywood legends but these young actors acted better than them in the original movie imo.
The character of phoenix was treated just like every other minor character. Isn’t that equality? Why does she need a bigger role when the movies not about her?
They don't understand what equality means lol they want what they call equal not actual equality.
Hell's yeah agreed! She just can't help herself its a sickness!
Exactly
She didn’t even get treated like the other minor characters she got more focus and screen time above the others with the exception of maybe Rooster for obvious reasons
Grace is extremely obsessed with identity. To an insane degree
1:54 "So Miles Teller comes in and he blows that jet out of the air - well, it wasn't that high up in the air because it was firing on Tom Cruise on the ground."
It wasn't that high up in the air because it was a helicopter.
This was terrible writing. And they did it twice. Here with miles and then when hangman came back and saved them both. It was cringe.
I almost had a stroke when she called the helo a jet.
When you hear her say she hated and didn't care for the first movie, you kinda see that coming
It was a gunship... they do not fly as high as planes.
Even for a helicopter it was pretty damn low
I love how you consider Phoenix to be an afterthought/ someone in the background yet catch yourself mid point and realize she was one of the pilots selected for the mission.
Not every film needs female empowerment and representation. The film is set in the military with is a male environment but yes women are in the military and you did have that depicted in this film. It shouldn't be an issue that Phenoix didn't have a bigger role because she was just as important to the story as all the other male pilots. She was not sexualized or objectified. Just saying not every area of representation is going to be in every movie you watch.
Great response. Totally agree 👍🏽
Hallelujah 🙌
I agree, and I thought she was a good character too
I actually thought she was memorable for calling out hangman multiple times for being a bad teammate
She'll probably be the only one involved who wins an oscar!
Sadly I'm only half kidding but I've seen worse in the last 10 years or at least it seems that way!🙄
Phoenix got picked because her and Bob were the only two that had a near death experience during training. So they knew what it took for the mission to get done. They would have less fear and more mentally ready Thats my take away Grace. Anybody else feel the same ?
I thought, within the logic of the movie, that Maverick picked them because they didn't have the arrogance of Hangman - but your explanation makes sense.
No, I don't think Phoenix and Bob weren't picked because of their crash. They proved to be very dependable during training and Phoenix was a competent pilot.
@@yxeaviationphotog thats basically what i was saying though lol
@@TheChristian50 I went back to my comment. I meant to say that Phoenix and Bob were not picked because of their crash.
@@yxeaviationphotog i agree .
Completely disagree I think they handled the character of Phoniex wonderfully. She was a great pilot and was picked. Don't know how much u want Grace... If u watch the other movie the other pilots were not featured.. She got great screen time and it wasn't done in a way to just do it for the heck of it.
I can't finish this review. Goose was not shot down per se, they were hit and they ejected. Phoenix was a good character. None the the "bestest evarrrr" eye rolling cringe that are most female characters nowadays. She was serious about her job and had chemistry and competence as a member of the team. This movie was everything I hoped for and didn't really think we would get. Loved it.
Grace seems to have lost the ability to objectively review films because of her obsession with the gender stuff.
@@tycasts-sc252this has turned into more of a leftist react channel
Nah she felt bland
*Phoenix*
I thought Phoenix was portrayed perfectly… not forced, not shoe horned, reminded me of Vasquez from Aliens and that is saying something. I don’t want to see women on the screen BECAUSE they’re women, I want it to feel natural and top gun maverick nailed it!
In my opinion, every military scene in this movie were especially the chemistry between the pilots were handled way better than the original. It's actually very rare that a sequel managed to be better than the original, in this case better than the classic. Easily one of my favourite movies of the whole year, I've never been this satisfied with a tent pole blockbuster in a recent years
100% agree. This movie should be the blueprint for how to revive a nostalgia franchise without overdoing fan service but giving fans what they want to see. Star Wars could take some notes.
The only thing with the pilots was they're appearance of cockiness. When Phoenix said we're all the best, who are they going to get to teach us, no fighter pilot (especially a Topgun graduate) would ever say that. And Hangman was just a douche who looked out for himself, at the expense of his team. Fighter pilots are humble, focused and consummate professionals. There was a lot of hidden animosity between some of the pilots, which isn't very realistic either. But, they needed to create tension for the sake of the story.
Strongly disagree there. The chemistry between Maverick, Goose, Iceman and a few of the others was much more engaging. It wouldn't have become the classic it has without it. The original also has classic memorable lines. This one hasn't.
@@PhilMoskowitz without memorable lines, every plane scene was shot way better than the original. Yes they do have excellent chemistry, way better than the first and yet the flight sequences were shot a lot better than the original. I don't think anyone was wasted
It kinda bothers me that Grace almost sees everything as boys vs girls, or white vs BAME, like there’s teams to this - we’re all equal - the best movies for progression are ones like Tenet - there’s a black lead with a strong female co lead without it being over emphasised- the creators just normalise it without making it a central focus
Yeah, I disagree with Grace's assessment of Phoenix. She had a pretty big scene with Bob. She had STUFF to do and say. Wasn't just in the background.
Yeah she is ridiculous. This movie was about Maverick relationship with Goose’s son. The movie is literally called Maverick. Besides I thought everyone had a good amount screen time.
It's just her limits, apparently she can't evolve from this shtick.
@@Poraqui this is why I haven’t really been a fan of Grace since around like 2018. Can’t we judge a movie based on it storytelling, technical aspects, and it’s overall fun factor just like 99% of the people and not see if it checks every box in an agenda
oh thankful it wasnt just me that thought Grace's rant was over the top. Like Phoenix was 1 of 11 other pilots besides Rooster. She had ALOT more screen time than alot of the others but her character did have a personal connection with Maverick and Im glad they didnt try and force it.
The female pilot wasn’t the main character. She held as much significance as BOB and the other male pilots that weren’t the MAIN CHARACTERS. Come on Grace. I love your reviews but no need to REACH for female representation. The female character was THE pilot he trusted to go on the mission with him and she kept up with MAVERICK. That’s awesome
@@IacopoCutino00 you hated this movie so much? 🤯
@@IacopoCutino00 Maverick being the main character was the right and the best choice. Not saying Tom doesn't have an ego, but who can blame him when he's as dedicated an actor as he is.
A sequel can work with a new main character, but I'm sure almost everyone are more than happy with Tom returning for the leading role
Ikr! i love it even more how they didn't sexual her at all during the football beach scene !
Woman still dont accept that some things are more male oriented. Its sad
@@sixfeetunder0105 ikr?! They gave Phoenix so much respect in this movie and was all that was necessary. The movie is called Maverick not Phoenix lol
I'm conflicted by Grace's comments at the end about the female pilot and 'not making enough of her'.
Equality means they should be treated equally - and I think she had similar screentime to the other secondary characters (less than Rooster but the same as the other pilots who flew the final mission). If they had singled her out and made her 'better' or given much more screentime to her than the males, that would have been seen as pushing a message. I'm not American, but I am ex-military and I loved this film. I also saw the women in my cinema (maybe 30/70 female/male split) cheer, laugh and react just as excitedly as us guys did.
The poster shows a poc pilot and a female pilot, at the same size as the others - isn't that the equality that we are wanting to achieve in cinema?
Equality doesn't mean everyone gets treated the same. Her character was pretty bland compared to the others. The women in this could def have been written better
@@Azenithf who cares she was a great character
@@johnspart1177 great character? how lol, tell me the most memorable thing she did
@@Azenithf It's not unrealistic though. In real life, particularly in military aviation, they mostly just struggle to stay in the game. Sorry but it's true. I've been around may 50 like her character and they don't necessarily excel, but they aren't the worst either. They play it safe and have other priorities in life, so you can't expect them to be like Maverick (or their real life male counterparts) simply because women don't have the same interests. Maverick was also doing his own aircraft maintenance in the movie, women rarely if ever learn to do this as pilots. I've never seen a single one.
I’m in San Diego and our audience went absolutely CRAZY. I couldn’t hear parts of the film because the packed theater was just incredible.
By far the best film of the year!
Best action movie maybe. But I thought The Northman and (especially) Everything Everywhere All At Once were better
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 both alright. nothing special about them.
SD is a big navy town . Stationed on Coronado for a few years !
@@HurricaneLaughter That's certainly an opinion
*decade
Just a couple of things, when Rooster was shot down you see Tom Cruise looking at the parachute and where it was landing. Also the enemy had newer "fifth generation" fighters that where way more maneuverable than the F-18 they were piloting. You see this when Tom Cruise shoots a missile at one an it does this crazy stop midair and flies by them and both Teller and Cruise go.. wtf.. The "old" jet they get on are F-14's same one's from the first movie.
I would have loved to see Meg Ryan in this but the whole point of the rift between them depended on her being gone.
Yes, sometimes Grace really misses the obvious stuff… the camera held on Maverick watching Rooster’s shoot for long enough to register where he would land 😅
It was a proper film, I enjoy my franchises as much as the next person but this was just a quality Old School blockbuster made on modern terms. It’s great cinema and it’s been a long time since we’ve seen something like it and it stands out
When Maverick says… “he already resents me… why make him resent her (dead Meg Ryan)…”
Such an adult choice… that we need more of.
I’m ok with Meg Ryan not being in the film for this.
Phoenix reminded me of a lot of women in the military. We are few but are very reliable and keep the team together. that's the kind of what I got from her.
Talk about an overinflated sense of importance!
Before I started watching this video I knew Grace would have a problem with the female representation in this movie and boy she delivered. The reason this movie is being received so well is because there isn't agendas and forced characters for representation.
She's entitled to her opinion, but frankly I'm getting tired of divisive rants about equality. Makes me not want to click on her videos as often.
@@mark4163 The thing is this movie was as equal to everyone that wasn't named Maverick or Rooster - which the movie was mostly focused about. Phoenix was treated respectfully and like everyone else in the squadron. Like, what the fuck more could you ask for? This is exactly what you wanted.
@@mark4163 Says a white guy who is alway represented.
@@tygressblade how about me a minority..a good story sells itself it doesn't need to feed an agenda.
@@hadriangonzalez607 Some more interesting female involvement could be worked into it while still prioritzing the narratives of the men in the film- the screenwriters would just need to be a bit more creative in that area.
As a Meg Ryan fan, I don’t think she should appear in the movie. Tom made the promise to her character at her death bed, I feel another death scene would detract the impact and significance of the other death scene in the movie. She already appeared in photos and flashback, that was enough and appropriate.
Grace......you seriously need to seek out a female fighter pilot(s) and get their perspective on how female pilots are treated in a squadron. They are treated as equals, especially if they're a competent pilot. That's exactly how Phoenix was treated. She wasn't looked down upon.....she was a competent pilot and didn't need a bigger role in the movie.
As for the phone on the bar......when you're on a squadron bar, there are rules that must be followed, or yes, you're going to be buying drinks for everyone. It is an actual thing in the military. Penny didn't do that out of spite......military bars have rules and everyone there knows them.
Exactly. Grace clearly expected Phoenix to suddenly morph into Captain Marvel and use infinity stones to blast through the enemy fighters. And the whole world should stand up and clap for Phoenix. That's probably how grace wanted the script to end.
Seriously, her expectations for over-done diversity need to stop. The movie did it perfectly, showing phoenix was a top gun like everyone else in the team. No more, no less. That is TRUE equality.
@@hunsters1705 Exactly. Aside from the "who the hell is going to teach us" comment from Phoenix, she really represented the quintessential female fighter pilot.....gave the guys a run for their money, didn't take crap from anyone and she was a competent pilot, who had the respect of her peers. He accolades spoke to her character, not the fact she is a women.
Only males commenting on this…not shocked.
@@tygressblade as a male, phoenixs character stood out a whole lot more than any of the other side characters outside of rooster.. hell when they were scrambling it was her and Maverick that were engaging in a lot of call signs to escape. I don't get Grace sometimes but she needs to chill out. Some times a story just has a story to tell.. It doesn't need to push anything.
@@tygressblade Only sjws that seem to have a problem. Not shocked.
I actually think the reason Hangman was benched is because they felt he would be the most likely to reach in time to provide support later on. Seems like a good call.
No....Hangman was a liability as he was so full of himself and didn't work as a team player. If it were me, I wouldn't have wanted him in the mission either.
Exactly. He was probably the better pilot, but by far the worse wingman.
He is in the same position as Maverick was in the last battle in TopGun '86
@@muzamman7644 very true
Phoenix was handled just right. She was one of the best pilots, if not the best pilot. She had the skills, she was a badass, and she didn't need to tell anyone because it was obvious. She didn't need to be highlighted because it was conveyed without words. That's how to handle a strong female character. When it's overly highlighted, it screams insecurity.
i absolutely agree with you comment... i thought she was the best pilot of the new crew... amazing character
Actually she didn't.... she didn't follow any procedures at all during the birdstrike. Every one of her actions was contrary to real life. I know it's a movie, but personality as a hollywood actor doesn't mean you're a good pilot. I'd call her mediocre in this movie.
Exactly! AND she never feels the need to lecture or mock or belittle her male counterparts. She doesn't need to tell everyone how good she is and she never demands respects. She earned it. And she forms an amazing team with Bob without emasculating him. Bob is still awesome in his own right and he proves that you can be shy and awkward but still be skilled and talented and damn good at what you do. Both characters manage to be great represantation without ramming an agenda down your throat.
Seriously Grace, you shouldn’t let representation determine what is and isn’t a good film. This is a movie that’s meant to be entertaining, which it succeeded at. And not every characters can be fully explored, because movies have time-limits.
Plus that's not what the focus of the film was about. It was about Maverick and Rooster. That was the main story they were telling.
Interesting white makes make these comments while they are always represented.
@@tygressblade shut up troll. See you commenting on a bunch comments here. Go home
She made it clear she thought the film was great overall! But all you hear is- she didn't think it's a good film. You didn't hear her too well.
@@maxhirsch7035 I know that. I’m just a little annoyed when she complains about something so small, like which group gets represented.
Grace you not liking the first Top Gun is the whole reason why there should be movies targeted for certain demographics and not four quadrant. Majority of older men are going to love both Top Gun movies. Just like I wouldn't watch Downton Abbey and don't understand it but there is a market for it.
Well, I'm female and black, and in my 50s. There's 3 demos, I guess.😄 The 4th is that I LOVE Tom Cruise action movies. He never cheats the fans. High quality stuff always.
Amen
It's not about demographics here. She does not understand what the movie was about. The two main leads are Tom and Miles. That's who the focus was always going to be on in the last act.
She does not understand that.
@@stinka4079 he definitely delivered in this one!
Thor’s confused, Hulk is a pacifist, Strange is a goofy and Spidey’s a wimp. Fortunately Maverick came to save masculinity in the movies✈️
Couldn’t agree more. Marvel should take some notes. Not every male character has to be a bumbling idiot or evil now days.
seems very off-putting to solely focus on the lack of the females role in the movie when clearly a lot of characters clearly were minor characters. classic grace being grace.
The older plane that Grace is referring to is an F-14 tomcat that he flew in top gun. That’s when most of the people in my theater lost their collective bananas, myself among them. :-)
Maverick back in an F-14, with Goose’s son in the back seat……..
What we’ve been waiting 36 years for.
First off, Maverick chose the female pilot as the one he trusted to do the mission at the end. What do you mean she wasn’t significant? Just because she didn’t outshine every male character doesn’t mean she didn’t have a pivotal role in the film. I don’t see any reason why that is a point to be brought up but whatever
Exactly! It's like she expects Phoenix to suddenly be imbued with captain marvel powers and blast through the enemy jets with an infinity stone, and the whole world stood up and clapped. Absolutely ridiculous expectations from Grace.
She wasn't narratively significant, is what I think Grace is pointing out. She's portrayed as highly competent, but not of particular narrative interest- and this is a reasonably narrative-driven film. To be fair, most of the men like Hondo, weren't really either- Tom Cruise tend to be very much about Tom Cruise, often with minor exception- The Edge of Tomorrow being a somewhat larger exception. Still, the proportion of elaborated male characters to elaborated female characters in big Hollywood films is still fairly lopsided.
Grace Randolph, who also said there should be a female hedgehog in the sonic movies, complained about the lack of females in Top gun: Maverick. Grace admitted that she knew this movie would be about Maverick facing his demons when he is forced to teach Rooster, the late Goose's son. There was a subplot about Maverick meeting Iceman again, used to illustrate why Maverick didn't seek to be promoted beyond being a "captain." There was a movie called An Officer and a Gentleman. That movie didn't need many female characters to provide a good story. Grace is up to her usual habits to demanding more females in movies. I don't see her demanding more males in the movie 355.
She did not demanded more females , but an ark for the female. Other person I the comments mention then the women were not different that other secondary characters , so he was correct , but you are nots
Exactly I agree. The story was about Maverick and Rooster….I don’t understand people feeling the need to shoehorn female characters into every single story as a super important character, It isn’t always needed. The female characters in this movie were great IMO. Go watch a current marvel movie if you want Mary sue female characters.
I almost *never* go out of my way to go see a movie on a premium movie screen, I'm always pretty happy with my local screens. But for this one I got to see it in Imax with my parents, and it was one of the best movie experiences I ever had. The sound, the visuals, I felt like I was experiencing the flights *with* the characters instead of watching it.
It just baffles my mind that this type of movie still gets made, I always say that they don't make 'em like they used to, but this is everything I want from a summer blockbuster. Classic hollywood, in the best way possible.
For the people wondering: The Gaga song is played through most of the score, and it is played during the final scenes.
Lady Gaga soundtrack? Im not mad at that.
The Lady Gaga song is fine, but it doesn’t hit like Berlin’s Take My Breath Away.
Loved this movie! I don’t think Meg Ryan acts anymore. Also Jennifer Connelly’s character was mentioned in the first movie. There was a Penny that Meg Ryan’s character says was an Admiral’s daughter that he snuck around with.
Actually I just read she' did a new movie with David Duchovny called What Happens Later. It's a rom-com. Not sure when it comes out.
Mentioned twice. First by Goose as he and Maverick were being chewed out by Stinger, and later by Carol Bradshaw (Goose’s wife) in the bar.
Why would Meg Ryan even be in this movie? Maverick said she died.
Grace it wasn't a jet that was about to shoot down Maverick, it was a military helicopter. LOL and it was in an open area lmaooooo. And of course Miles's Rooster found him because he followed him, disobeying, of course, a direct order from Cyclone (Jon Hamm). I think you may have to re-watch the film again Gracie. LOL
An aviation expert, she is not
@@andrewhogan6533 Lmaoooo clearly
Why is it a bad thing to have a movie about men mostly ? Its not. Even tho theres a bad rep about that, its important to keep it because woman dont have to stick their noses in everything. Just like men shouldnt have to stick theirs into women stuff. And aviation is mostly a man thing, so the representation was accurate.
You don’t get laid often even if you are married.
Grace, the movie wasn’t about the female pilot. OMG! 🤦♂️ SMH. She was looked at as an equal, but that wasn’t good enough for you.
The Iceman scene was so lovely.
I'm so glad many of the comments equal mine. I thought Phoenix's role was spot on. I Loved her on scene and Bob. But the movie wasn't really about them or the other pilots. Not every movie needs to have this representation you constantly seek. There was no agenda here. Just a solid enjoyable movie. Clean
The fact is, I think the representation *was* there. Phoenix was repeatedly shown to be just as strong and skilled as any of the male pilots. After Rooster & Hangman, she probably had the most screentime & dialogue...
Tom Cruise is a living legend that knows how to make blockbuster movies.
My favorite scene in the movie is when they are running away from the two enemy fighters and unleashing their flares and stuff. And Rooster runs out of flares but still has two missiles coming at him. And then Maverick flies his jet right above Rooster and releases his flares protecting him. That was probably the coolest thing I have seen in a long time. Totally badass and heroic.
For me it was probably when the enemy jet made a crazy stop mid air, circled back and evaded the missile maverick shot.
Glen Powell is a standout yet again. Great character which is kinda crazy as they wrote the character in last second when he didn’t get the role of Rooster If I’m not mistaken.I’ve been fan casting him as Human Torch for a while now and his performance here is further proof of how perfect he is for that character.
14:49 Grace: "It was very weird though not to have Meg Ryan in the movie at all..."
Also Grace: shows a photo of Meg Ryan looking like The Joker.
Although in the film it was said she died. lol Ayayayay Grace is kills me sometimes.
What makes the 3rd act incredible is the set up, directly or indirectly, the first movie and first two acts of the 2nd movie did. Absolutely incredible film
I used to work on an aircraft carrier and even got to work on a blue angels show. This movie hit me with nostalgia. The sound and power of a jet as it takes off could really be felt with the directing.
Surprised you didn’t mention that 3rd act was pretty leading to putting Maverick and Goose/Rooster back into an F-14 again, JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL. I should’ve seen this coming when they mention the enemy has F-14 in the base lol
"I should’ve seen this coming when they mention the enemy has F-14 in the base lol"
They prevented us from thinking it's a set-up for an action sequence by using it as a set-up for a punchline: "Seems like we're not the only ones holding onto old relics." Clever screenwriting, much better than in the original.
I agree I never saw it coming even though they clearly set it up earlier lol. I was like nooo way when it was happening
Best movie I've seen in years. They changed the game on how to make movies in an authentic and realistic way.
Love your reviews, but disagree with your criticism of the female pilot. She was a vital part of the team and was strong and showcased very well
All of these type of comments are by men… so consistent.
I love you to death Grace, but this comment on the women in the movie, I just don't agree (though, I do agree about Meg not being there, a big miss). I think this Phoenix character was just right, she didn't need to be treated differently for being a woman, she was treated as the rest of the guys, she was as good and was even put in front with an important mission. Only that, as you rightly said, it was about Maverick and Rooster, and there was no time for character development.
And Penny was able to show us how vulnerable Maverick was, not that cocky-arrogant first Maverick.
Keep'em coming Grace, love your videos.
Just saw the movie! I agree with you Grace this is a great movie. I’m a navy vet too. It made me cry multiple times.
The second enemy pilot in the 5th gen fighter was a hotshot. It wasn't just that his plane was awesome. You could tell from his moves that he was like an enemy top gun.
You should've known rooster was coming. And that Hangman was gonna save the day at the end
In addition to the perfectly balanced narrative, inspiring visuals and superb soundtrack, Maverick also has another important aspect: he brings up a feeling that has been missing in theaters for a long time, that feeling of ''Real Cinema'' made the old-fashioned way, with few effects. The roar of the jet engines is real, the reactions of the Pilots is real, the Story for more fanciful is believable, the Emotions that surround the Characters are perfectly capable of being felt by us too (at some point in our lives, or even during the exhibition), of course not in an extraodinary context of the Navy but still are true emotions and feelings, I'm clapping because all this joins nostalgia, watching this Movie is an Experience.
What is this copypasta lmao. I've seen this exact same comment in 4 different videos
This movie is now projected to make $150 million opening weekend which is insane. It will double Cruise's previous B.O. record with WOTW which made $64 million way back in 2005. Cruise is on top once again!
I appreciate that you understand you're not exactly the target demographic and I think you were fair in your review.
you had to mess it up by talking about the women. women hijacked loki, women hijacked kenobi, women highjacked the guy who shots arrows. can we just have one move where the wonen arent messing things up with the feelings. oh there was a movie with 4 women made by the people that made jason bourne. and it bombed. now if that girl has an 8 pack like those men hand then she can get a bigger role
Lol 🤡
Seriously, there are more important issues than a character like Phoenix getting more or less screen time than anyone else. The movie is not called Top Gun: Phoenix. It's Top Gun: Maverick. Also, she was one of the pilots selected by Maverick himself for the mission. She's a good, strong female character without being toxic. The last thing we need is more toxic movie characters. We have too many already.
GRACE, THE MOVIE WASN'T ABOUT A FEMALE PILOT!
My only critique is I wish they expanded a dogfight between Hangman and the last enemy jet...
Buying rounds in a bar is a very Navy and military tradition. That’s why there is a bell in all military centric bars. You break bar rules you buy or have a cause for celebration. It’s a respect thing as well as a honor thing.
JJ Abrams, Rian Johnson and the rest of those fanfic writers for Disney/Star Wars could take some notes from this movie. This is how you make a sequel.
one of the most realest piece of cinema of all time, the ending twist got me for the first time ever!!, P.S the act 3 where tom cruise stole the jet i hear mission impossible theme music in my head lol who else?
When they went on the airstrip in between enemy soldiers, I leaned to my friend and whispered: "I didn't know this a Mission Impossible movie."
i was hoping the movie to end with tom dying, but the fighter jet stealing scene was so funny i couldn't stay mad😂
That would’ve been too predictable imo
My biggest issue with the film is that Miles Teller's name was BRADLEY BRADSHAW. Totally took me out of it
I think the part of pulling Rooster application from the academy means he had to go Navy ROTC route in the university. Also, the bar scene is kinda traditions in the bases, with different conditions between different bases I believe. Phoenix is a great depiction imo, she need no special treatment. She was treated as equal. Isn’t that the whole point?
The "bad" guys were faceless in the first one as well.
Because of this review, i just bought my ticket to see it Thursday. Can't wait!
Yo it was great so yea. Has a good pace
You'll love it!
Did you watch the 1st movie.... uhh 1st?
@@Davis2920022001 uhh yes. Why wouldn't I watch the first one before seeing part 2?
The one thing that stood out was the soundtrack and soud mix. Extremely well made.
Tom Cruise breaking box office globally ♥️🔥
It's quite unreasonable to expect a girl power theme from Top Gun: Maverick. Honestly, the movie already checked off so many boxes, that you're just nitpicking on miscellaneous errors.
Don’t agree with the critique on the female pilot: Isn’t that the goal, to not make a big deal of a gender? She was just there - like all the other guys. Not your typical „strong female character“; just one of the guys. But tbh absolutely EVERYTHING here was like an exact copy of a 90s movie - even those stereotypes, like the one female member of the group. But it was all so enjoyable, although outside the US this whole patriotism will never fully work. :-) And I hated Lady Gaga’s song, the weakest element of an otherwise awesome (!) soundtrack.
Agree. You know equality is recognizing, that recognition is minimal. She was supporting character, not main... It's not like they treated the female characters poorly. Should they treated the female roles with more attention... Wouldn't that disrespect the name of the of the movie?
well why don’t you go write a song since it’s so easy just shut your face. nobody cares.
I agree Lars well said. Not every movie has to be a political statement. In fact that's ruining movies and just making good fun movies. I can imagine her critique of " Heat" if it came out today... What no female sociopath felon thief???
I agree Lars well said. Not every movie has to be a political statement. In fact that's ruining movies and just making good fun movies. I can imagine her critique of " Heat" if it came out today... What no female sociopath felon thief???
Phoenix and Penny were my two favorites! Phoenix, from the moment she stepped in frame… I felt she could keep up with ANYONE, not just “the Boys”! Great acting. Connelly is the non-military heart of the film. She gives him the pep-talk to go back in and fight for his students. I DO wish it had been Phoenix, not Hangman, that saved them near the end though. She’ll be back.
The women segment. Do women have to be the center of every movie? Maybe it wasn't made for women.
women received a tremendous amount of screen time in Top Gun 2. Jennifer Connelly even schooled Navy man Maverick how to sail a boat
After watching Top Gun 2.
I so pray Tom Cruise will give us another Days of Thunder!
phoenix and bob were some of my favorite characters of the film and having remembering the original film well I had genuine concern for them during the second acts "accident". I felt she would have been #1 had maverick or rooster not been the bigger players of the story.
Phoenix & Bob, MVPs of this movie
Shaking my head. It was an enemy military chopper. Not a jet firing at Maverick on the ground. City people i tell ya!
Appreciate people trying to be inclusive…
But when filmmakers just focus on making a good movie… we just get better movies.
What I liked about the movie was that it was as faithful to the air combat doctrine as they could.
It drives me nuts that there are people online saying you have to see the first one before seeing Top Gun Maverick. That is going to be hurdle for many people since the concensus seems to be that the new one is better than the first one in almost every way. Please don't rob yourself of the experience of seeing this one in a theater just because you can't bring yourself to watch the original. It will reward people who have seen it but it is not at all necessary to have one of the best theater experiences of the year.
I would say you definitely appreciate Maverick more if you’ve seen Top gun 1.
As is the case with any sequel, you'll have more of an appreciation for certain things, but it's definitely not a requirement. I haven't seen Top Gun in well over a decade and remember next to nothing about it yet I had a great time in this one
@@Bayuuk agree totally. But some people just aren't going to want to watch it. Being told you have to watch a 36 year old movie before you check out the hottest movie in theaters right now is going to feel like homework to some, so they'll never watch either. And Top Gun Maverick deserves a wide audience, and no one should miss out on it while it's on the big screen. I'm a fan of 80's movies myself, but not everyone is. Top Gun Maverick is a Top Gun for a new generation.
I rewatched Top Gun a couple of weeks ago and loved it! Such a cool 80s movie. People should branch out more and watch older stuff. Shame they can’t be bothered.
Penny was the girl that Maverick was talking about being irresponsible with in the first movie.
I wore my Ray-Ban to the theatre 😂😂
That wasn't a jet that was attacking Tom Cruise after he got grounded, that was an attack chopper. Come on now Grace, gotta know the difference between jets and helicopters
In case no one else has mentioned this: Rooster shot down a Soviet era Mi-24 Hind HELICOPTER gunship to save Maverick's life. Please get this important distinction correct!
I just mentioned that, can't believe grace doesn't know the difference between a jet and a helicopter
In case no one knew this;
Meg Ryan (Carole) mentioned Penny, his ex girlfriend -watch the dinner scene w/ Maverick, Charlie, Goose, Carole and "Rooster"
She wasn't a "made up " character just for specifically for this movie
I love the movie too, follow Grace advice. I don’t see the weakness she talks about. The movie is pretty well rounded and can’t be just action. It’s a uplifting movie ( do you remember those ?) . It old school as she say , lot of smiles etc. I will agree that I’d better than the first. This is not a Grace movie I am surprised that she like it. The women: I am more concerned that they were all mean, she does not mention the intentional hit to the groin by the pilot that wanted to have fun (sexual assault if the society was not also misandrist). This is an old style movie, so they did a basic inclusion / diversity points but it’s all about a story they want to tell. Everything else is soft and not get almost no time.
Haven't been to the theater since 2017 and this movie brought me out of hibernation. And it was worth it
Opening scenes with the experimental plane reminded me of Clint Eastwood Firefox, and they went full Behind enemy lines in the end... Great stuff
The plane stealing scene was also in Firefox
Here’s a little insight into military bars on base… there are unwritten rules that all military members are aware of before entering. For example, if you put your cover (hat, flight cap) on the bar, you have to buy a round of drinks for the everyone in the bar. Another example, is if someone taps a RMO (military round metal object or coin) on the bar and you’re unable to show your RMO then you have to buy a round of drinks for everyone in the bar…however, if everyone is able to show their RMO then the person that started it owes everyone a drink. These rules vary depending on service but they definitely exist and, yes, it can be costly.
That opening scene was EVERYTHING! I don’t remember the last time I watched a movie that had me at the edge of my seat right off the bat! Bravo
The movie is literally about maverick not women pilots. She was literally chosen to be a top pilot but it wasn’t enough lmao. Man stop every movie isn’t a political women showdown
Watching this again tonight. Hopefully my friends find it as enjoyable as me . Enjoyed the spoiler review . I'm happy for Tom cruise and Paramount with the box office success .
Loved they played David Bowie in the bar when we met Jennifer Connolly's character (She played Sarah in the Labyrinth - a family favourite of ours)
I missed that reference - good catch.
Yes I caught that as well. It was very fitting and I had to chuckle at that scene.
I didn't realize! Good catch!
@@jean-francoisjoanisse1445 the Let's Dance song. Thought that was a nice touch
Grace come on, why must there always be a female main character?
You have remember what Jennifer Connelly's character's daughter said when Tom jumped down from the window, her daughter said "Don't break her heart again." That got Maverick thinking about what direction he needed to take the relationship with Peggy. I'm definitely in the group of people who understood and accepted Jennifer's role in the movie. I thought she was beautiful, attractive, and just the right motivation for Maverick after being grounded by the Air Boss, and Maverick didn't know what to do.
I saw twice Imax and once 4DX.
Jennifer served the purpose of keeping Tom on track. Kelly could have done that, but whatever. It was fine.
Phoenix literally flew right behind Maverick on the final mission. If she doesn't do her job, the first miracle is a failure. Hangman was sitting on the aircraft carrier twiddling his thumbs while Phoenix flew the main mission. What extra does she need to do to gain respect? It's already established they are already Top Gun graduates.
When I realized the F-14 was about to be flown again... Genuine tears. Was not expecting that because a few real military pilots kept stressing the F-14 is retired and only flyable in a couple countries. They said it didn't make sense to see an F-14 in the trailer. Well, this movie took that knowledge and used it as a gotcha!
In the 80's, my friends and I loved two vehicles. The Lamborghini Countach and the F-14 Tomcat. I still have my art and posters of both.
The women thing is getting irritating now. There are people & experiences that involve no women. And vice versa. Grow up.
If a movie doesn't fit her agenda then she hates and slams the movie. It's a joke how she is a reviewer.
How are Maverick and Rooster Gary Sue's ???????!!!!!!! Rooster literally had an issue with being too cautious Maverick keeps self destructing and keeps getting saved by Ice smh Grace
So disappointed Jurassic World was sold out this evening. But then my wife and I decided to leave the kids at home and take a date night to watch Top Gun. I am sooo glad Jurassic World was sold out and we went to see this! This movie is ridiculously good from start to finish. Absolutely amazing!
She kept calling Rooster Goose lol
Omg Grace, enough with the feminist comments. The woman was chosen just like Bob. We don't anything about Bob either.... This story is about Rooster and Maverick. Of course they won't focus on women being a pilot or not.
Exactly! And I think in real life there is no female pilot in Top Gun... is there? ...Grace is never satisfied
Tom Cruise runs real fast. You should know that by now from Mission Impossible movies. Thats how he tracked Rooster super fast.
Did you really watch the movie? It was a helicopter Rooster shot down to save Maverick, not a fighter. And he knew were Rooster was because he watched him parachute down.
Great review! Basically the same thoughts I had watching itFor me this is a star turn for Miles Teller and Glen Powell; I was really surprised with their performances and I hope they get something big out of this. Val Kilmer and Tom Cruise are Hollywood legends but these young actors acted better than them in the original movie imo.