Hands down one of the best video series I have seen. I'm fairly new to bowling, been on a casual Saturday league for a couple years, but am starting to really invest into improving my game and building an arsenal but didn't know where to start with the latter. Thanks for making such great, informative content on a topic that seemingly no one else covers.
@Luke. Thanks again for the video. I ended up for a league arsenal of Phaze II, Astrophysix, IQ Tour, Hustle HSB, and the Pitch Black. I have been standing on different parts of the lane depending on the length and hook of a ball. Today I was put on a lane with a fresh THS of 23 ml. I put all 5 balls out and rotated the use each frame. I found out that I can bowl whatever I want on fresh. It was a great day.
I watched this again. I ordered a RotoGrip spare ball to drill left handed. Needed an idea for a hook ball and got it. I think I will go an Idol Pearl. Then if lefty doesn't work out I can redrill it righty and it will still work in my current arsenal.
I feel this is pretty accurate. As someone who has a natural heavy roll, my 5 ball Tier 1 arsenal was: Crux Prime (Pin Up) Idol (Pin Up) Idol Pearl (Pin Up) Marvel Pearl (5 7/8 pin to PAP, pin down) Pitch Blue (Pin Down) Occasionally, when I would bring the 6th ball to fill a gap, it has been the Physix or an IQ Tour-like ball.
MAJOR thanks for explaining about the true slot for urethane and including how the Hyroad Pearl is so useful on beaten-up patterns (as well as the Hustle INK). I really appreciate your time and detail on these! :)
You easily have the best bowling ball review channel on RUclips!! For the simple fact that you're so brutally honest about different bowling balls and you break down the video for everyone to understand!! Just subscribed! Keep up the good work! #stormnation
Between this video and the follow up, I have adjusted my arsenal to the following: Omega Crux Phaze II Marvel Pearl MVP Attitude Hustle Ink I very briefly had a well-loved Idol Pearl in the 3rd slot, but after I got some more lane shine back on the Marvel, it worked very well for me. Got the Hustle Ink and getting the MVP Attitude to replace the Black Widow Pink and Hyroad X respectively. I plan on getting those redrilled for lefty.
Thanks!! Yeah I kinda forgot to add that wrap up. I put my final choices in the description, but PhysiX, Phaze 2, Idol Pearl, Wild Streak, Hustle Ink, and my spare ball is actually a Pro Motion, so I get dual use out of it
After watching this video and changing up my approach on what balls I have used I have increased my average by 15 pins within the last couple of months. This was an amazing and deeply in depth video that helped me out a ton! Keep up the good work!
@@LukeRosdahl I've only started bowling for about 2 years now and got a 179 average at the moment. My team also just won our league so i'm planning on upgrading my arsenal again. I'm a 2 hander lookin for a bit more back end. I currently have a AstroPhysix lookin for a bit more backend on heavy patterns so plannin on getting either a Physix or the UFO, any suggestions?
I love the phaze 2 and idol. I’ve won 2 junior tournaments in Ohio and used the idol for the championship of the first one and the phaze 2 for the championship of the second. I will not leave home without the phaze 2 or idol ever.
Bowled tournament today, had a few games on the Idol Pro and the Hustle Ink. Great balls, and really liking the 5x5x3 layout on the Idol Pro. It was jumping a little when new, but is starting to smooth out nicely. It's awesome aside from the 5-7-10 it left in the 6th game today lol!. The Hustle was thrown OOB Thursday with the 65 x 4 x 40 layout (your 2000 grit Ink layout) and it was super strong. I sanded it to 2000 last night for today's tourney, and it was much more controlled. I think once it lane shines a bit, it will be a great ball for me. Still warming up my Idol Pearl, Pro-Motion and Wild Streak. Waiting for my Crux Prime, Physix, Phaze II and UFO to show up. Yes, I have a ball problem. Ha! Really appreciate your videos, Luke. First time EVER that what someone says relates to what I actually see on the lanes.
Great sport essential collection... from 1-5 to build a arsenal... I like it... Well Done Luke! Can’t wait for your next collection for 2020... Thank You 🙏🏼 😊🙏🏼
At this moment I am still a kid and a have a arsenal of Hy road X Halo (Non Pearl) Motiv tank Rampage ( this ball starts really early because of the urethane) Idol pearl All out show off (hybrid) WD plastic
What you said at 14:35 was really good. I too have seen that when people pull out urethane I can sometimes play further right than them and if I miss in I have a bunch of hold. It clicked one day and I've used it since. Just dont let the bad tournament bowlers know, I'll let them keep using urethane and giving me room.
This series is real cool to watch! Very good choice in arsenal I’d say and if I had all the money in the world I’d definitely have one of all of these! Currently though I’ve got 1. Physix 2. Virtual Tour Exclusive 3. Scandal/S 4. Marvel Pearl (soon to be replaced by a Phaze III in my bag I take everywhere, however I’ll keep the MP around in case I happen to need it) 5. Wipeout 6. Purple Hammer (just got to replace my Pitch Blue because although I love storm and roto, Hammer’s got them beat on urethane) Also, I’ve found some things on the VTE that tend to work for me on sport if you’d be interested! I can’t really use it with polish for transition because by the time I get to balling down during tournaments, I tend to be more comfortable with a symmetric shinier ball as opposed to an asym. I’ve found that it works real well with 1000 or 2000 grit as simply another asymmetric or “1 ball” shape for fresher conditions if my Physix isn’t quite enough. The R3S cover is more responsive to friction than NRG so, with surface, for me it translates to simply a bit more shape when it comes to comparing ball motion. Just thought that’d be a cool bit of info for you if you haven’t used your VTE that much!
Yup!!! I don't use it anymore, actually gave it to the wife because she wanted it. I actually just drilled a stronger PhysiX which gives me what I'm looking for, it'll make its debut on the UFO videos.
I own a Crux prime and god damn I love how I can put it between 5 and 15 sometimes even 20 depending on angle of release and it can find its way to the pocket. Even on slick patterns I’ve thrown it to 1 and it has snapped back and it seems as if angle into pocket doesn’t affect the outcome to much
So this has nothing to do with this series but I would love to know if you think a phase two would cross lines with a all road for a bowler with 13-15 mph and 250 rpm
so i am 550 rev two-hander- 17-18 mph and what m thinking is the crux or omega prime, idol pro, or idol pearl, wild streak, MVP, pitch black, then a plastic ball. everything hooks a ton for me fyi
My ball driller recommended the Halo two years ago. I was very reluctant. Well, it turn out to be my most versatile ball until transition. Stupidly I did not buy two or three more, ugh! And of course for whatever reason they discontinued it. Story of my life. I used to bowl the Brunswick LT-48 reissue. Another monster good ball. Very predictable. Several months later... discontinued. Hey, I have a suggestion, rather than coming out with a new ball every week, how about keeping the classics around.
People want new . . it's kind of funny, they'll dog on something like a Phaze 2, Hyroad, or IQ Tour Solid staying around because, "those are old, you can't make anything better??" Companies make something better. "Why do you discontinue the good stuff??" All a sales thing really.
Yeah, it's on that 2/3 line depending on your rev rate and the condition. It can be a 2 ball for higher rev rates or drier conditions, or a 3 ball for lower rev rates and wetter conditions.
I’m looking at a 4 ball arsenal to start. I will add a ball above later(UFO or physix). Will there be a solid progression with those 4 or will there be a hole. Thanks Phaze 2 Phaze 3 Wild Streak Hustle Ink.
This may seem like a stupid question, but, here I am... I know this series is focused on building a bag for sport conditions. But, if someone were to put together a "THS/Shitty league bowler Essentials Collection", where would you begin? I assume the 3 slot would probably be the best place to start, and then branch to the 2 or 4 slot depending on if the house decided to oil the lanes before your league or not? The term "house shot killer" comes up in quite a few videos, but I have a hard time thinking something in the 1 or 2 slot would be effective for more than a game or two with large groups of people bowling on a pair.
Hey Luke first off I love your videos! But I have a question where do you think an intense would fit in in here I have P3 and from your other comment you said it could take the Astro spot. A pro motion and a pitch black for the burnt dirt. I also have a radical zing but that fits in the iq tour solid spot I’d believe. Where would the intense fit in I don’t find time to throw it? Thanks in advanced
I have 20 something balls and for my 1 spot I want to put either my physix or reality. Both play off my 2 and 3 ball really well so I’m your opinion from your experiences which one would be more versatile.
Both of them are really versatile, and they react fairly similarly. I think the Reality can handle more oil, but they both hook enough that you could flip a coin and not end up with a bad option.
No actually, I started this series after I got it. It could probably slot in where the Astro is, but I think the scope of use for the Astro is a little greater because there's a point where the P3 just won't get down the lane due to the cover strength, while the Astro still would. P3 is in Halo Pearl territory as far as that goes. Great in a handful of situations, but a bit too limited on sport patterns. Annihilates house shots of course, but Astro is a better sport option for most people in my opinion
Such a great video, Luke. I was at NAtionals in Vegas, and your summation was spot on. Kind of an odd question, when you set up layouts for yourself and pick these balls, are you using a similar layout on most of them and letting the core, cover, and surface dictate, or do you have wide ranging layouts?
Hey Luke! Big fan. Have a question for you. I’ve been working on my arsenal recently and could use your help. Current I have surelock, Physix, phaze 2, hypercell fused, og hyroad and pitch black. Looking for something cleaner down lane but can’t seem to pick. I’m roughly 350-375 revs with medium speed. What would you recommend between astro Physix, idol pearl, phaze 3 or iq emerald. I know I’m asking a lot but any words of wisdom will help. Thanks!
Thanks! Idol Pearl is one of my must have type balls. Phaze 3 is pretty good, and my Astro is a little too much overall, but Idol Pearl is the most versatile in my opinion.
It was hard . . the Idol Pro is a jack of all trades, but there's not one thing it does exceptionally well like the rest of these, or not a specific characteristic that stands out.
Do you bring the same balls with you to every tournament or do you change them out based on the type of oil pattern that you will be bowling on. For example, if you were going to a long, heavy oil tournament, would you bring all balls for that condition even taking into account transition or would you bring the same 6 that you take to all tournaments?
@@LukeRosdahl been away from tougher tournaments and sports leagues for almost 2 years. Rebuilding my arsenal slowly and was wondering would fit anything else. Lefty 16-17 mph 350-385 rev rate UFO, nuclear cell, pro-motion, iq tour solid. Idol pearl. Love your videos!
I would just like to say thank you for the great information in this series. Your videos are appealing to more than just the advanced bowlers. I personally am brand new to the sport, always loved it but never knew the real theoretical/technical side of it. I’m personally attempting to start my 1st arsenal with a couple starter balls that would cover a wide range of lane options. I’ve gathered that a urethane option (Pitch Black or Hustle INC), paired with a mid range “benchmark” ball, would be a good place to start. I’ve had my eye on the Idol Pro, Idol Pearl, & Wild Streak to compliment the urethane/spare ball. Any advice from your end? Ultimately I plan to settle with a 4 ball arsenal. Thanks in advance for your help. We appreciate it. (My gut tells me to go Pitch Black and Idol Pro...)
The more viewers I get, the harder it is to bridge the gap and make sure I'm making sense to everyone, but I try not to talk over anyone's head . . Hustle Ink isn't actually a urethane ball, just a lower end reactive, but a REALLY good one. I'm not sure you'd want urethane though if you're just bowling on regular league shots, you might actually go Hustle Ink and Idol Pro for your combo.
how would you fit my arsenal? I have a hammer redemption solid, dv8 turmoil for heavy oil, rotogrip haywire, hyroad x, IQ emerald, global 900 after dark for light oil and storm mix for dry and spare. How would you put them in order for a 4-5 ball arsenal for my league? Thanks
My 2 leagues are medium volume oil, one shorter than the other, my 5 ball arsenal is Idol, Code Red, Phaze, Hustle Ink & Purple Hammer. See any room for improvement? Thanks
Depends on the shot, but sure, I've used a P2 plenty of times on house shots, and very nearly won a big house shot tournament with one early last year. It's aggressive, but if you have a fair amount of oil, it's definitely in play.
Luke Rosdahl okay cause I just recently got one have to get it drilled but yeah was hopeing it was a good choice for league was gunna get phase 3 but figured I’ll get the P2 instead cause iv always wanted it lol.
Probably either in the 4 or 5 spot, would either be in place of the Emerald or All Road for heavier hands, or just straight replace the Pearl in the 5 spot
It doesn't quite fit in for me on sport conditions, the cover strength is pretty high, and having that strong of a friction response generally isn't ideal for tougher conditions. In my opinion, it has a very narrow window of use on sport.
Hey I am two handed bowler and was wondering if you can give me some advice and help building my arsenal or suggestions. Currently in my bag 1. Spare ball, 2. Pitch black, 3. hyroad x, 4. *timeless, 5. *phaze 2 (plugged and redrill) and 6. *hyroad nano I also have fresh phaze 2 waiting to be drilled but I’d thought I’d ask for advice first. * = Balance hole Thank you for your time
I have a question about top weight. I jus bought my daughter one of those blue storm spare-balls and the box says 1.5 top. Is that gonna affect anything about the drilling after installing inserts and switch grip thumb? Usually i see 2.5 or more on everything so i was curious.
It's a spare ball, doesn't matter at all. With the new USBC rules, it matters quite a bit less than it used to, and top/bottom weight has always had a 3oz tolerance anyway.
Nah, though most of them have one of 3 different layouts on it, so several of them do have the same layout. This is the way most competitive bowlers do it, find a couple layouts that look good for your game, and stick to them.
Luke Rosdahl I am trying to use your video to make an arsenal of my own. Right now I have an idol pro as my one ball, a promotion as my two ball and a hyroad Pearl as my 3 ball. Unfortunately money is a problem right now but I want to get another to fit in between the promotion and the hyroad. What would you recommend. I was thinking maybe a wild streak, but would love your thoughts. Merry Christmas and thanks for your help.
@@LukeRosdahl I’m rewatching and getting ideas for this year. Noticed how the ball numbers can be filled in/out as needed with new gear. The NEX cover should probably fill in where spec was last year, in combination with the surface adjustments that can be made. Love your video catalog man. Always helpful and resourceful.
I absolutely love the PhysiX. I agree with you in saying it may not be the strongest asym but that adds to the balls versatility and that it’s the best blind choice. I can play on it from house shots to tough tournament patterns and it doesn’t disappoint. I do have a question about it you’ve talked about it having a bit more shape than a typical ball with nano in the cover. Why do you think this is the case with the PhysiX and not the other balls in the lineup?
The core is really windy and has a lot of torque. NRG hybrid has the most shape of the 3 NRG covers, and with the aggression of that core, just a lightning in a bottle type deal.
If the shot is consistent from week to week, probably lol. At one house I take 3, and the other house I take 6, mostly for bag balance . . but one of my houses is pretty inconsistent and pair to pair they play quite a bit different, so I usually take a few extra there just in case.
Yeah. Slightly different shapes, the DD is more of a hook set, while the Idol Pearl is rounder and a bit more continuous by nature, but hook potentials are on top of each other, and I'd use them in the same situations in the same part of the lane.
Luke Rosdahl thanks sm!! I just got a daredevil from a friend, but the idol pearl looked really good and I heard plenty of praise for it. I wasn’t sure if I needed to drop another 200 to buy the IP if I had the DD
Could someone tell me which category they think my balls fit in. I have absolutely no clue. - Dv8 Pitbull Bark - Hammer Ripd Pearl - Brunswick Cutting Edge
Not a bad set up if you're going light, but that's also solid-solid-solid and smooth on top of smooth on top of smooth, but if that's what you like and the shape you normally use, that sounds like a plan.
Several different reasons maybe. The first one is that hooking and covering more boards are two different things. The Astro is designed for heavier oil volumes than the All Road, even though the All Road has the stronger coverstock. The All Road has a weaker core in it, which means it's going to get down the lane quite a bit easier, despite the stronger cover, storing more energy to cover more boards down lane. The Astro has a weaker cover but a stronger core, and depending on the conditions you're on, it might be smoother than the All Road, but that doesn't make it weaker. Once you get on heavier conditions and the lack of core strength of the All Road makes it inconsistent and hit weak at the pocket, you'll see the Astro performing better. It's all relative to the condition you're bowling on, and if you're on a condition that the All Road is better matched up with, it's going to perform better. Snow tires technically have more grip than racing slicks, but more grip IN SNOW than racing slicks do. If you put snow tires on a stock car, they're going to perform significantly worse and grip less because that's not what they're designed for.
This is basically what this series is for, in college you'll see all kinds of tough patterns, so this is to help you build your own that fits you and your game.
Luke Rosdahl my friend and I agree that the super soniq is whatever. Only because we were expecting it to be a little less snappy than what Storm gave us. He was expecting a smoother ball. I was just underwhelmed. I like the colors though. 😁
Are my balls a good lineup 1:sure lock 2:hy road x 3 phaze 3 4: iq emerald 5:900 global white hot badger/hustle 3tb I have about 400 revs and I throw it about 16 mph
Dalton Krayenhagen Watching my review videos on it and the general idea of this one, where do you think it would end up? The idea behind my videos is to help with information so that you can be able to figure out where to put stuff in your own arsenal.
One of the best videos I've ever seen. Nicely done with lots of information . Keep up the great work.
Hands down one of the best video series I have seen. I'm fairly new to bowling, been on a casual Saturday league for a couple years, but am starting to really invest into improving my game and building an arsenal but didn't know where to start with the latter. Thanks for making such great, informative content on a topic that seemingly no one else covers.
I can't tell you how many times I watched this video. Taking notes but, still making my arsenal to what works best for me.
I've been searching for a video like this for a while. So tough to digest as a beginner, but I will rewatch for this great insight to shapes!
Ok so I’m watching this for the 4th time -_- Bowling is gonna have to come back soon I’m dying over here
I know right I been watching pro bowlers a lot. And I been watching this because I been wanted add couple more bowling balls to my list.
@Luke. Thanks again for the video. I ended up for a league arsenal of Phaze II, Astrophysix, IQ Tour, Hustle HSB, and the Pitch Black. I have been standing on different parts of the lane depending on the length and hook of a ball. Today I was put on a lane with a fresh THS of 23 ml. I put all 5 balls out and rotated the use each frame. I found out that I can bowl whatever I want on fresh. It was a great day.
I watched this again. I ordered a RotoGrip spare ball to drill left handed. Needed an idea for a hook ball and got it. I think I will go an Idol Pearl. Then if lefty doesn't work out I can redrill it righty and it will still work in my current arsenal.
I feel this is pretty accurate. As someone who has a natural heavy roll, my 5 ball Tier 1 arsenal was:
Crux Prime (Pin Up)
Idol (Pin Up)
Idol Pearl (Pin Up)
Marvel Pearl (5 7/8 pin to PAP, pin down)
Pitch Blue (Pin Down)
Occasionally, when I would bring the 6th ball to fill a gap, it has been the Physix or an IQ Tour-like ball.
Luke, this is one of the best arsenal videos I have ever seen. Thank you so much!
Thanks!!
MAJOR thanks for explaining about the true slot for urethane and including how the Hyroad Pearl is so useful on beaten-up patterns (as well as the Hustle INK). I really appreciate your time and detail on these! :)
Appreciate it!!!
Would love to see part 2 with updated balls likes UFO, Pitch Purple, Nuke etc...
You easily have the best bowling ball review channel on RUclips!! For the simple fact that you're so brutally honest about different bowling balls and you break down the video for everyone to understand!! Just subscribed! Keep up the good work! #stormnation
Between this video and the follow up, I have adjusted my arsenal to the following:
Omega Crux
Phaze II
Marvel Pearl
MVP Attitude
Hustle Ink
I very briefly had a well-loved Idol Pearl in the 3rd slot, but after I got some more lane shine back on the Marvel, it worked very well for me. Got the Hustle Ink and getting the MVP Attitude to replace the Black Widow Pink and Hyroad X respectively. I plan on getting those redrilled for lefty.
Wow easily one of the best bowling videos ever please continue the great work just simply amazed.
So what was ur 5th option sorry didn't catch that
Thanks!! Yeah I kinda forgot to add that wrap up. I put my final choices in the description, but PhysiX, Phaze 2, Idol Pearl, Wild Streak, Hustle Ink, and my spare ball is actually a Pro Motion, so I get dual use out of it
@@LukeRosdahl thank you very much excellent work loved this video
Wow. You're the man! I'm a new subscriber and the amount of info you give is second to none. Thx!
Appreciate it!!!
After watching this video and changing up my approach on what balls I have used I have increased my average by 15 pins within the last couple of months. This was an amazing and deeply in depth video that helped me out a ton! Keep up the good work!
ItsOneShot That’s REALLY cool, my favorite type of comments!! Keep at it!
@@LukeRosdahl I've only started bowling for about 2 years now and got a 179 average at the moment. My team also just won our league so i'm planning on upgrading my arsenal again. I'm a 2 hander lookin for a bit more back end. I currently have a AstroPhysix lookin for a bit more backend on heavy patterns so plannin on getting either a Physix or the UFO, any suggestions?
Best educational bowling video ever!!! Thanks, Luke.
I love the phaze 2 and idol. I’ve won 2 junior tournaments in Ohio and used the idol for the championship of the first one and the phaze 2 for the championship of the second. I will not leave home without the phaze 2 or idol ever.
Bowled tournament today, had a few games on the Idol Pro and the Hustle Ink. Great balls, and really liking the 5x5x3 layout on the Idol Pro. It was jumping a little when new, but is starting to smooth out nicely. It's awesome aside from the 5-7-10 it left in the 6th game today lol!. The Hustle was thrown OOB Thursday with the 65 x 4 x 40 layout (your 2000 grit Ink layout) and it was super strong. I sanded it to 2000 last night for today's tourney, and it was much more controlled. I think once it lane shines a bit, it will be a great ball for me. Still warming up my Idol Pearl, Pro-Motion and Wild Streak. Waiting for my Crux Prime, Physix, Phaze II and UFO to show up. Yes, I have a ball problem. Ha! Really appreciate your videos, Luke. First time EVER that what someone says relates to what I actually see on the lanes.
Glad to hear it!! I'm a pro shop guy, so I've spent my fair share of time watching ball reaction, so I'd hope I'd have it right by now!!
Great sport essential collection... from 1-5 to build a arsenal... I like it... Well Done Luke! Can’t wait for your next collection for 2020... Thank You 🙏🏼 😊🙏🏼
At this moment I am still a kid and a have a arsenal of
Hy road X
Halo (Non Pearl)
Motiv tank Rampage ( this ball starts really early because of the urethane)
Idol pearl
All out show off (hybrid)
WD plastic
Crux Prime was the best ball I've ever used.
What you said at 14:35 was really good. I too have seen that when people pull out urethane I can sometimes play further right than them and if I miss in I have a bunch of hold. It clicked one day and I've used it since. Just dont let the bad tournament bowlers know, I'll let them keep using urethane and giving me room.
This series is real cool to watch! Very good choice in arsenal I’d say and if I had all the money in the world I’d definitely have one of all of these! Currently though I’ve got
1. Physix
2. Virtual Tour Exclusive
3. Scandal/S
4. Marvel Pearl (soon to be replaced by a Phaze III in my bag I take everywhere, however I’ll keep the MP around in case I happen to need it)
5. Wipeout
6. Purple Hammer (just got to replace my Pitch Blue because although I love storm and roto, Hammer’s got them beat on urethane)
Also, I’ve found some things on the VTE that tend to work for me on sport if you’d be interested! I can’t really use it with polish for transition because by the time I get to balling down during tournaments, I tend to be more comfortable with a symmetric shinier ball as opposed to an asym. I’ve found that it works real well with 1000 or 2000 grit as simply another asymmetric or “1 ball” shape for fresher conditions if my Physix isn’t quite enough. The R3S cover is more responsive to friction than NRG so, with surface, for me it translates to simply a bit more shape when it comes to comparing ball motion. Just thought that’d be a cool bit of info for you if you haven’t used your VTE that much!
Yup!!! I don't use it anymore, actually gave it to the wife because she wanted it. I actually just drilled a stronger PhysiX which gives me what I'm looking for, it'll make its debut on the UFO videos.
Another great video as always!
Would you out the new Nuclear Cell in any of these spots, and if so would it be more of a 1 or 2 spot? Great review by the way!
Maybe the 1 spot at 2000 or 3000
I own a Crux prime and god damn I love how I can put it between 5 and 15 sometimes even 20 depending on angle of release and it can find its way to the pocket. Even on slick patterns I’ve thrown it to 1 and it has snapped back and it seems as if angle into pocket doesn’t affect the outcome to much
Yup! That's what I like about it, lane surface and pattern doesn't seem to affect what it does much.
thats called the house pattern. hail the house pattern
Excellent Video
Just got a gravity evolve. Things a hook monster
Definitely gonna help build an arsenal for Reno.
Bryan Miloshoff I’m actually going to do a video for that too once nationals gets closer and I figure out what I’m taking
So this has nothing to do with this series but I would love to know if you think a phase two would cross lines with a all road for a bowler with 13-15 mph and 250 rpm
Leave that ink polished baby! It's a more unique reaction and hard to fill spot in the arsenal.
Wow this terminology is blowing over my head
Yeah . . this series is pretty thick . . hard to explain stuff sometimes without just full on going for it.
so i am 550 rev two-hander- 17-18 mph and what m thinking is the crux or omega prime, idol pro, or idol pearl, wild streak, MVP, pitch black, then a plastic ball. everything hooks a ton for me fyi
Thank you!!!
My ball driller recommended the Halo two years ago. I was very reluctant. Well, it turn out to be my most versatile ball until transition. Stupidly I did not buy two or three more, ugh! And of course for whatever reason they discontinued it. Story of my life. I used to bowl the Brunswick LT-48 reissue. Another monster good ball. Very predictable. Several months later... discontinued. Hey, I have a suggestion, rather than coming out with a new ball every week, how about keeping the classics around.
People want new . . it's kind of funny, they'll dog on something like a Phaze 2, Hyroad, or IQ Tour Solid staying around because, "those are old, you can't make anything better??" Companies make something better. "Why do you discontinue the good stuff??" All a sales thing really.
I need advice on this arsenal
1. Axiom or omega crux
2.phase 2
3. astro physix
4. Phase 3,idol pearl, hyroad
5. MVP pearl
6. Hyroad pearl
Plastic
I can't wait start bowling again once I do IAM getting wild streak and the new ball nuclear cell. Also going have rubber ball drilled.
Rubber ball???
AMAZING VIDEO
I currently have a Marvel Pearl. Would that be considered a 3- ball if included in any of these lineups?
Yeah, it's on that 2/3 line depending on your rev rate and the condition. It can be a 2 ball for higher rev rates or drier conditions, or a 3 ball for lower rev rates and wetter conditions.
Gotcha. Thanks for the reply. I'm probably middle of the road for rev rate so definitely 3 ball for me.
I’m looking at a 4 ball arsenal to start. I will add a ball above later(UFO or physix). Will there be a solid progression with those 4 or will there be a hole. Thanks
Phaze 2
Phaze 3
Wild Streak
Hustle Ink.
Yeah those 4 would be really good.
This may seem like a stupid question, but, here I am...
I know this series is focused on building a bag for sport conditions. But, if someone were to put together a "THS/Shitty league bowler Essentials Collection", where would you begin? I assume the 3 slot would probably be the best place to start, and then branch to the 2 or 4 slot depending on if the house decided to oil the lanes before your league or not? The term "house shot killer" comes up in quite a few videos, but I have a hard time thinking something in the 1 or 2 slot would be effective for more than a game or two with large groups of people bowling on a pair.
Hey Luke first off I love your videos! But I have a question where do you think an intense would fit in in here I have P3 and from your other comment you said it could take the Astro spot. A pro motion and a pitch black for the burnt dirt. I also have a radical zing but that fits in the iq tour solid spot I’d believe. Where would the intense fit in I don’t find time to throw it? Thanks in advanced
Intense would be more a 1 ball actually, the original was really strong and quite a few people I know run surface on it and use it as their big ball
Luke Rosdahl thanks for the help! Keep up the great content
I have 20 something balls and for my 1 spot I want to put either my physix or reality. Both play off my 2 and 3 ball really well so I’m your opinion from your experiences which one would be more versatile.
Both of them are really versatile, and they react fairly similarly. I think the Reality can handle more oil, but they both hook enough that you could flip a coin and not end up with a bad option.
@@LukeRosdahl thanks but I also was wondering how the reality compared to the UFO I forgot to mention it in my last comment
@@jamesrunions9010 Different shapes, UFO is a little earlier and smoother, maybe a little stronger.
Great video series Luke!! Would you insert the Phaze 3 anywhere now that it's out?
No actually, I started this series after I got it. It could probably slot in where the Astro is, but I think the scope of use for the Astro is a little greater because there's a point where the P3 just won't get down the lane due to the cover strength, while the Astro still would. P3 is in Halo Pearl territory as far as that goes. Great in a handful of situations, but a bit too limited on sport patterns. Annihilates house shots of course, but Astro is a better sport option for most people in my opinion
@@LukeRosdahl noted and thank you
Such a great video, Luke. I was at NAtionals in Vegas, and your summation was spot on. Kind of an odd question, when you set up layouts for yourself and pick these balls, are you using a similar layout on most of them and letting the core, cover, and surface dictate, or do you have wide ranging layouts?
Yeah, I let the ball be the ball and use a couple different layouts, which is what most competitive bowlers do.
Hey Luke! Big fan. Have a question for you. I’ve been working on my arsenal recently and could use your help. Current I have surelock, Physix, phaze 2, hypercell fused, og hyroad and pitch black. Looking for something cleaner down lane but can’t seem to pick. I’m roughly 350-375 revs with medium speed. What would you recommend between astro Physix, idol pearl, phaze 3 or iq emerald. I know I’m asking a lot but any words of wisdom will help.
Thanks!
Thanks! Idol Pearl is one of my must have type balls. Phaze 3 is pretty good, and my Astro is a little too much overall, but Idol Pearl is the most versatile in my opinion.
Does a pin down ball have the same continuation thru the pins as a pin up ball or does the pin down ball deflect a little more
Have you done a phase 3 and idol pro comparison? Not sure if i missed it. Or are they completely different
Yeah they're just different. They compliment each other nicely, but I didn't see any real reason to compare them in a video.
Not that your selection wasnt dead on BUT how did you leave out idol pro??
It was hard . . the Idol Pro is a jack of all trades, but there's not one thing it does exceptionally well like the rest of these, or not a specific characteristic that stands out.
Luke if I were to do a 3 ball plus spare for mostly house and some tourney would a physix,iq tour,hustle ink work?
Do you bring the same balls with you to every tournament or do you change them out based on the type of oil pattern that you will be bowling on. For example, if you were going to a long, heavy oil tournament, would you bring all balls for that condition even taking into account transition or would you bring the same 6 that you take to all tournaments?
Yeah, I usually adjust a FEW depending on the condition and format. There are some that go everywhere regardless like the Phaze 2 and Pro Motion.
@@LukeRosdahl been away from tougher tournaments and sports leagues for almost 2 years. Rebuilding my arsenal slowly and was wondering would fit anything else. Lefty 16-17 mph 350-385 rev rate UFO, nuclear cell, pro-motion, iq tour solid. Idol pearl. Love your videos!
Hey Luke have you ever done an arsenal video for house patterns?
I've done a couple little featurettes on stuff, but house shots generally allow you to score with virtually anything, so there isn't much of a point.
I would just like to say thank you for the great information in this series. Your videos are appealing to more than just the advanced bowlers. I personally am brand new to the sport, always loved it but never knew the real theoretical/technical side of it. I’m personally attempting to start my 1st arsenal with a couple starter balls that would cover a wide range of lane options. I’ve gathered that a urethane option (Pitch Black or Hustle INC), paired with a mid range “benchmark” ball, would be a good place to start. I’ve had my eye on the Idol Pro, Idol Pearl, & Wild Streak to compliment the urethane/spare ball. Any advice from your end? Ultimately I plan to settle with a 4 ball arsenal.
Thanks in advance for your help. We appreciate it.
(My gut tells me to go Pitch Black and Idol Pro...)
The more viewers I get, the harder it is to bridge the gap and make sure I'm making sense to everyone, but I try not to talk over anyone's head . .
Hustle Ink isn't actually a urethane ball, just a lower end reactive, but a REALLY good one. I'm not sure you'd want urethane though if you're just bowling on regular league shots, you might actually go Hustle Ink and Idol Pro for your combo.
@Luke Would a Phaze II and a Astrophysix combination work if I don't have a ball that is for your 1 ball slot?
Yeah probably.
how would you fit my arsenal? I have a hammer redemption solid, dv8 turmoil for heavy oil, rotogrip haywire, hyroad x, IQ emerald, global 900 after dark for light oil and storm mix for dry and spare. How would you put them in order for a 4-5 ball arsenal for my league? Thanks
would this be a good 3 ball arsenal?
UFO
Phase II
Hy Road
Spare
or do I need to fit something between phase II and hy road? thanks!
Hey Luke, great series. Thanks for sharing the knowledge. Is your Physix polished or just lane shinned?
Just some lane shine. Thanks!!
For a arsenal could I go ufo
Physix
Astro
Phase 3
Hustle 3tp
Pitxh purple
With the addition of the UFO and Phase 3 offerings.. would you change your lineup?
Nah, UFO is crazy strong, and I had already considered the Phaze 3, but the cover isn't quite as versatile as the Astro.
My 2 leagues are medium volume oil, one shorter than the other, my 5 ball arsenal is Idol, Code Red, Phaze, Hustle Ink & Purple Hammer. See any room for improvement? Thanks
There's a bit of a gap between your Phaze and Hustle Ink, could be filled with an All Road or IQ Emerald, but it's pretty solid
Is the phase 2 a good house shot ball?
Depends on the shot, but sure, I've used a P2 plenty of times on house shots, and very nearly won a big house shot tournament with one early last year. It's aggressive, but if you have a fair amount of oil, it's definitely in play.
Luke Rosdahl okay cause I just recently got one have to get it drilled but yeah was hopeing it was a good choice for league was gunna get phase 3 but figured I’ll get the P2 instead cause iv always wanted it lol.
What slot would you place a Hy Road in?
Probably either in the 4 or 5 spot, would either be in place of the Emerald or All Road for heavier hands, or just straight replace the Pearl in the 5 spot
Where does the Phaze 3 fit in? I am slowly and very selectively building my arsenal.
It doesn't quite fit in for me on sport conditions, the cover strength is pretty high, and having that strong of a friction response generally isn't ideal for tougher conditions. In my opinion, it has a very narrow window of use on sport.
Or what about this
1 axiom
2 omega crus
3 astro physix
4 idol pearl
5 mvp pearl
6 hyroad pearl
7 plastic
Can the UFO or the Halo solid can be in the first spot and the phazelll in the third or the second spot?
Yup!
Hey I am two handed bowler and was wondering if you can give me some advice and help building my arsenal or suggestions. Currently in my bag
1. Spare ball, 2. Pitch black, 3. hyroad x, 4. *timeless, 5. *phaze 2 (plugged and redrill) and 6. *hyroad nano
I also have fresh phaze 2 waiting to be drilled but I’d thought I’d ask for advice first. * = Balance hole
Thank you for your time
I think I'd save that other Phaze 2 unless you think you need it, looks like you've got a pretty good setup there already
okay cool thank you for the suggestion. also love your videos keep up the good work
I have a question about top weight. I jus bought my daughter one of those blue storm spare-balls and the box says 1.5 top. Is that gonna affect anything about the drilling after installing inserts and switch grip thumb? Usually i see 2.5 or more on everything so i was curious.
It's a spare ball, doesn't matter at all. With the new USBC rules, it matters quite a bit less than it used to, and top/bottom weight has always had a 3oz tolerance anyway.
Just wondering if you use the same layout for each ball in every category
Nah, though most of them have one of 3 different layouts on it, so several of them do have the same layout. This is the way most competitive bowlers do it, find a couple layouts that look good for your game, and stick to them.
Luke Rosdahl I am trying to use your video to make an arsenal of my own. Right now I have an idol pro as my one ball, a promotion as my two ball and a hyroad Pearl as my 3 ball. Unfortunately money is a problem right now but I want to get another to fit in between the promotion and the hyroad. What would you recommend. I was thinking maybe a wild streak, but would love your thoughts. Merry Christmas and thanks for your help.
@@jimgill6222 Yeah, Wild Streak would fit in there pretty well actually. Merry Christmas to you too!!
would you reccomend a omega crux or a crux prime for a high rev 2 hander (looking for the higher hook ball)
Either one, the Omega is going to be more dynamic and the Prime is going to be earlier, but smoother.
Bout time for an update?? Bc 2 of these balls are off the market lol
Less update and more addition to just cover the new ones that have come out since.
@@LukeRosdahl I’m rewatching and getting ideas for this year. Noticed how the ball numbers can be filled in/out as needed with new gear. The NEX cover should probably fill in where spec was last year, in combination with the surface adjustments that can be made.
Love your video catalog man. Always helpful and resourceful.
I absolutely love the PhysiX. I agree with you in saying it may not be the strongest asym but that adds to the balls versatility and that it’s the best blind choice. I can play on it from house shots to tough tournament patterns and it doesn’t disappoint. I do have a question about it you’ve talked about it having a bit more shape than a typical ball with nano in the cover. Why do you think this is the case with the PhysiX and not the other balls in the lineup?
The core is really windy and has a lot of torque. NRG hybrid has the most shape of the 3 NRG covers, and with the aggression of that core, just a lightning in a bottle type deal.
@Luke. Is a 7 ball arsenal just an insane amount of balls to bring to a league?
If the shot is consistent from week to week, probably lol. At one house I take 3, and the other house I take 6, mostly for bag balance . . but one of my houses is pretty inconsistent and pair to pair they play quite a bit different, so I usually take a few extra there just in case.
You said halo was recently discontinued... is that the halo line in general? Sorry I didnt know they discontinued
David Wilson Nah, just the original Halo, the Pearl and the Vision are still available
Wait, halo got discontinued?
Yup, with the UFO release.
Where would the soniq be in your arsenal?
Duane Jones It wouldn’t (lol,) but probably a 3 ball
Could a daredevil replace the idol pearl as the 3 ball in an arsenal?
Yeah. Slightly different shapes, the DD is more of a hook set, while the Idol Pearl is rounder and a bit more continuous by nature, but hook potentials are on top of each other, and I'd use them in the same situations in the same part of the lane.
Luke Rosdahl thanks sm!! I just got a daredevil from a friend, but the idol pearl looked really good and I heard plenty of praise for it. I wasn’t sure if I needed to drop another 200 to buy the IP if I had the DD
What slot would you say Phaze 3 now fits in?
It's a 2/3 ball depending on the conditions.
Is the axiom omega crux astro physix MVP pearl hyroad pearl good line up
Yup, sounds like it to me!
So I've changed up a little bit i have now 1 hammer redemption
2 omega crux
3 phase 2
4 astro physics
5 iq emarld
6pitch purple urethane
Spare
Where would the by road x be at?
In place of the Hyroad Pearl if it's a good ball for you.
now with all this new equipment out is there anything that u would change and now that u r a lefty say like a ufo or nuclear cell or even the axiom
Axiom would probably be a 1 or 2 ball pick depending on the conditions.
Could someone tell me which category they think my balls fit in. I have absolutely no clue.
- Dv8 Pitbull Bark
- Hammer Ripd Pearl
- Brunswick Cutting Edge
Halo, pro motion, pitch purple?
Not a bad set up if you're going light, but that's also solid-solid-solid and smooth on top of smooth on top of smooth, but if that's what you like and the shape you normally use, that sounds like a plan.
Why does my allroad hook more than my astro?
Several different reasons maybe. The first one is that hooking and covering more boards are two different things. The Astro is designed for heavier oil volumes than the All Road, even though the All Road has the stronger coverstock. The All Road has a weaker core in it, which means it's going to get down the lane quite a bit easier, despite the stronger cover, storing more energy to cover more boards down lane. The Astro has a weaker cover but a stronger core, and depending on the conditions you're on, it might be smoother than the All Road, but that doesn't make it weaker. Once you get on heavier conditions and the lack of core strength of the All Road makes it inconsistent and hit weak at the pocket, you'll see the Astro performing better. It's all relative to the condition you're bowling on, and if you're on a condition that the All Road is better matched up with, it's going to perform better. Snow tires technically have more grip than racing slicks, but more grip IN SNOW than racing slicks do. If you put snow tires on a stock car, they're going to perform significantly worse and grip less because that's not what they're designed for.
For a 3 ball arsenal should i go for 1 3 5?
Yes actually, that'd be perfect.
@@LukeRosdahl thanks bro. Appreciate u always
I have a alpha jackal phase 2 and phase 3 match up hybrid and a ice spare ball is that a good line up
There's a pretty big gap between the Phaze 3 and Match Up Hybrid, but everything else looks good.
What would u suggest
Does hyroad x fill that gap
Hyroad X is a bit too close to the MUH, you might look more at one of the IQs
What would be a 5 ball aresnal for college
This is basically what this series is for, in college you'll see all kinds of tough patterns, so this is to help you build your own that fits you and your game.
Most of these balls are discontinued now :(
It happens . .
Where would the Phaze III fit?
Gbuck426 As a 2 ball in place of the Astro. It’s pretty strong and quick
Luke Rosdahl thanks! Still waiting for it to come off back order☹️
Gbuck426 i just drilled and threw it in fresh league oil. its gorgeous down lane. Very smooth yet strong off the point. I hope you enjoy it
I’m kinda surprised super sonic ain’t on here.
I think it’s because it’s somewhere in the middle between a lot of these choices. I’d say it’s really balanced and that’s why it’s not on the list
Bleh, awful ball for me lol, that’s why it’s not on here. It COULD be a 2 ball option, but the options I think I have in there are better
Can’t carry everything.
Luke Rosdahl my friend and I agree that the super soniq is whatever. Only because we were expecting it to be a little less snappy than what Storm gave us. He was expecting a smoother ball. I was just underwhelmed. I like the colors though. 😁
Que pasa Mufasa?? Lol mine was buuuutter. Super Smooth!Q more like for me!
Are my balls a good lineup
1:sure lock
2:hy road x
3 phaze 3
4: iq emerald
5:900 global white hot badger/hustle 3tb
I have about 400 revs and I throw it about 16 mph
Yeah, looks like it to me. You might want a sanded solid in the middle there like an IQ Tour Solid or something, but otherwise it looks good.
Where would ufo be
Dalton Krayenhagen Watching my review videos on it and the general idea of this one, where do you think it would end up? The idea behind my videos is to help with information so that you can be able to figure out where to put stuff in your own arsenal.