Excellent review! I appreciate that you offer a review like a industrial product designer, and not just a marketing approach, or user only review that lacks extensive construction/engineering experience.
Thanks for this thorough review! I also own the Aeon Li and was able to test it this weekend on a wet and windy camping trip in Central Oregon. This is my second Tarptent - I also have the Moment DW. I bought this tent for an ultralight option on longer or more difficult trips. It takes a bit more to setup than the Moment, but that's to be expected. This is my first single wall tent and I was worried that it would be cold and have condensation issues. However, I had zero condensation inside even though it rained a fair amount on this trip. There was a lot of wind, and that certainly helps with keeping it dry inside. Even in gusts up to 40 mph, there was little tent movement, and I didn't feel the wind inside the tent so I stayed warm all night. Overall, I'm happy with it, and super happy to be carrying less weight on trail.
Thanks for the great review. Very well done, very complete. I own two Tarptents, and your review proves that Henry is just a tent genius (Tent god?)!.... Again, thanks.
This review is why I purchased my Aeon li. I hit the American Discovery Trail March 1st let's see how this tent holds up. I have nothing but great things to say about Tarptent. Great customer service great solid tent build.
Fantastic review Ryan! The detail you provided was awesome. Personally I am a big fan of Tarptent! Own 3 of them and they are all fantastic. Looks like I am on my way to #4. On a side note - If you enjoyed this video and are not a Backpacking Light member I would encourage you to join. I am a life member and this is an example of the quality information Ryan and the BPL community provides.
I just got back from a trip to 11K feet in the Sierra where my hiking partner had the Tarptent Aeon and we got rained and hailed on. Her tent held up like a champ! It took a beating and all her stuff was bone dry!
This channel is nice, i discovered you from the podcast about Dyneema (heard twice to improve my english) . Now i have been watching the videos, really interesting reviews, specially those about Dirigo 2 and Aeon Li. I can understand why there are only 2.4k followers, your page are one of the best. Keep doing these. Bye.
Holy Crap Ryan! Wha5 an awesome and thorough review. I have listened to your podcast and have been impressed, but if this is an example of what I can find on your site, it think you just sold a new subscription. WOW!
Very clear review of a great new tent. Much appreciate your time sharing this. I have a 6 year old Dyneema Lightheart tent. They no longer make them, because they said they're difficult to make. I stopped using it for two reason.... 1. It would flap loudly in the wind. I was never able to make a right setup. I even sent it back to Lightheart to remove excess panel material. You stated that TT has no issue with this. Great to hear.....👍 2. It required a large clear footprint to set up. The tie-outs were numerous. I easily took up three freestanding tent sites. It looks like the TT tent is much smaller.... 👍 I'm going to wait a.couple seasons and see if TT makes any tweaks to it before purchasing one. Thx
Dyneema tents require some very tight precision to keep them from flapping in wind - there’s no stretch to the fabric so it’s pretty unforgiving if either design or manufacturing is even a little bit sloppy.
Fascinating...ready to drop some $$ on a lightweight dyneema and the depth of the Zpacks bathtub was what I was drawn to with that brand (and the fact their camo version wasn't translucent!!) But you think the 8" depth is more of a detriment than a benefit? Very interesting. What about the transparency of the fabric of the Aeon Li? I am drawn to the ease of set up and fewer stakes etc of the Aeon Li. Its been several months since your video so would love an update just to let us know if it is still highly recommend (it's currently out of stock ....but in the meantime...should I wait for this one to be back in stock?!) Im 5'4 and under 120 lbs so hoping the inside has room for me and the majority of my stuff!
This is an awesome tent, I absolutely love mine, and that was a great review. But you forgot to mention one of the features it has while discussing the bathtub floor height vs the plexamid. The aeon has a built in attachment to connect the floor to the tent wall which raises up the bathtub floor heighth considerably when needed. It would've completely eliminated that snow drift that made it's way in. You can see how this attachment works in the official Tarptent setup video near the end when they discuss the extra features.
Unfortunately that back “adjustment” cord used to raise the floor is really only there to minimize upsplash of rain that is pounding against the back of the tent. It raises the floor a little at that location, but it doesn’t really close off the perimeter mesh, which is where spindrift enters. It was raised during the night where the tent was setup in the big snowstorm.
@@BackpackingLightUSA aw gotcha, thanks for the reply. Haven't even used that feature yet but figured it would be a little more useful than it apparently is.
Thanks Ryan. Interesting video for an interesting and innovative tent. For the lightest weight with good comfort features and pitching options for storm protection the Aeon seems to be the best choice of the Dyneema mids. Your detailed review answered every question I had about this tent. Seems that when henry Shires finally decided to make Dyneema tents he went all in. I'm likely getting a TT Notch LI this summer. One of the first things I'll do is add 4 fly hem stake loops, 2 loops per side. I will reinforce the attachment point areas first with Dyneema repair tape cut in 3" diameter circles, folded and attached so it forms a half circle on both sides of the fly hem giving you double reinforcement. Fly hem stakes cut flapping way down in high winds, giving me a better night's sleep. For another 1.5 oz.and more durability I'm getting the silnylon floor and for protection from blowing dust the ripstop inner tent.
The photos seem to show a slight catenary cut to the seams the Tarptent, not apparent in the Plexamid. Checked website - yes, catenary cut seams. Makes sense that it would be quieter in wind than the Plexamid.
Hello Ryan, How do you feel about the Aeon Li now. Have you had a chance to use it a few more times? I purchased one a few weeks ago. only camped with it twice so far. (many more to come this year). So far I love it. Coming from a Nemo Hornet Elite 2p, which is a very nice tent. The one I used on your Timberline trek last Sept.( the trek was awesome!!) The Nemo is 2-1/2 lbs...I saved 1-1/2 lbs from my base weight!! Thank you for the detailed reviews and videos. Great Job!
marcello alvisi Hi, still loving the Aeon after some more time... any thoughts...? I am aiming to get one with next batch. Btw, I noticed you have an italian name, may I ask you if you got the tent from Italy or Europe, or if you got it direct from Henry? Thanks in advance.
@@adopancia7445 Hi there, So far I have used it 7 nights camping(5 nights of it on a section of the AT middle Virginia, Sept 2019... It's been great! I will get out with it in the next few weeks. I live in PA. I purchased the tent online direct from manufacturer. It is plenty big for me. I am 5'7". Rmember,it is ONLY 1 Lb. You cannot beat the weight for the performance. I hope that helps you make a decision either way...Hike on!!
Hey Ryan the looming question is why do you appear to like the Aeon Li better than the Notch Li? The Notch needs two poles but SMD has 45" poles at only 1.7oz each so the additional pole needed for the Notch combined with the very small extra weight of the Notch totals only a few extra ounces over the Aeon. It is true the Notch packs up to 2" longer than the Aeon and is more expensive but let's say who cares to these negatives. And let's say the Notch is far superior to the Aeon as it is a double wall tent, much better with condensation, better for views, it can even be just a topless open mesh tent, and as you say it just has much better liveability. So really isn't the extra three ounces worth all that better liveability? I want to ask you about this because your opinions are the most thorough but when you say that you might buy an Aeon Li and make a video for it but you don't mention the Notch Li in that video or make a video for it I am left wanting for your comparison of the Aeon Li vs Notch Li. And I've seen both your backpacking light reviews of both tents and in reading them I come up with the Notch being the better tent - and yet as I said you did not make a video for the Notch and said you might buy an Aeon. So what gives? What is it about the Aeon Li that you like over the Notch Li?
The guylines, or lack thereof and how tight they can be set to the canopy make this a very compelling option. It practically sets up in its own footprint. I own a duplex and didn't think anything would prevent me from selling it and buying the plexamid. I'm still selling it but I'm almost certain the Aeon will be what replaces it. No guyline in the front and my trecking pole canted inline with the verticle part of the zipper is really cool too. There are too many unique design features in this to be overlooked.
Great, comprehensive review Ryan! Thanks. I subscribed a few weeks ago to BPL. I have a couple questions regarding the Aeon Li vs the Notch Li & SS Li. 1) Do you know how the inner floor spaces compare between Aeon & Notch? It's hard to tell by dimensions alone. Specifically, for accommodating a long wide pad (i.e. Nemo Alpine). It appears that maybe the Aeon has more space than the Notch. 2) Provided the Notch Li can equally accommodate a long wide pad, do you think the Notch Li (DW, solid inner) would be better for AT section hiking, Pisgah & the Smokies given the DW condensation advantages (outside of good site selection)? I find Henry seems to steer people toward the Notch Li over the Aeon Li for this reason - but again, floor seems tighter in the Notch (?). Lastly (3), the Stratosphere Li is also very compelling (more room for pad, dog, etc & still a reasonable weight-to-size)... do you think the increased size of the SS Li footprint would make it difficult to use in the areas (listed above) I primarily hike? Grateful for you work & appreciate any detailed feedback you might provide. Thanks!
Hey Steve. I’m looking at the same 3 tents, with the same questions. Did you end up picking one? You probably know on SS Li you can pitch one vestibule straight which would help with the footprint somewhat.
@@scottschrum1065 No, not yet. I've upgraded most of the rest of my kit to reduce weight (pack, bag, etc) but am having trouble finalizing my shelter. Mostly re SW vs DW for condensation management & durability of DCF. How about you?
I enjoyed your review. In the video you mentioned that you are a pyramid tenter and that you use the Locus Gear Khufu? What are your thoughts on the Tyvek version? Last question, can you roll and pack the Khufu fly and inner mesh liner together? Thank you!
Can you explain your possible contradiction when talking about the cross strut in this tent (offers stability in windier conditions) and when you talk about the very similar design in the new dirigo 2 tent (causes a torsional, rotational INstability in higher winds) - or have I just misunderstood one of your comments?
@@BackpackingLightUSA I'd like to see that too, as well as a taller bathtub... even if was just 1" taller. I suppose Dyneema for those corner vents wouldn't hurt either. I wonder why they didn't make them like that to start off with? Have you noticed any drawbacks to that, what looks to be, nylon?
Ripstop's DCF is single-direction strands below 0.8 oz. Double-direction strands 0.8 oz and above. I find more important than DCF weight is strand direction diversity, so always lean towards 0.8 oz from RiostopbytheRoll. Not sure about Zpacks and TarpTent's strand-diversity vs fabric-weight?
@@BackpackingLightUSA have you had any experience with zpack duplex? if yes what you think compare to aeon li for one person? I know duplex is two-person but seems price-wise is different only a lil bit. But airflow and condensation seems doing well on aeon li huh?
Great review Ryan... I'm 6" and a bit... would that still work in your opinion and one would not touch walls all the time with the feet (sleeping bag & pad)?
Bill - it's the REI Flash 55 (snp.link/1965e626). It's actually a pretty awesome pack, with a lot of features that are great for organization and gear access. My favorite feature is that it has two stretch side pockets on each side that can be accessed from the trail. It also has a pretty refined harness that's quite comfy, even under pretty heavy loads (> 30 lb).
Hi Thanks for a great review of this tent realy helped my in my thinking. One dog question. I have an Riesenschnuser, equal to your dog in size. How is the space to have the dog inside the inner. Thanks again, Keep posting and I Will go on watching. Per from Sweden
Backpacking Light Thanks thats What I was afraid off. I probably will go for an Zpacks duplex, but I realy wanted this to fit. Once again Thanks and have a nice weekend. Per
DO you have anything to say about positioning the vestibule flush with the wall of the tent to "fit in tight places"? That seems to be a selling point on the website. Great video
Yes, that’s possible but I’m not so sure many people would actually camp in a tight enough space to consider this a “feature”. Maybe a very rare just in case option.
I have the Aeon LI and have been pretty satisfied. The biggest frustration that I have is the struts falling out of the sockets on the side and top I ended up losing a strut because it feel out of the sockets. Have you had this issue and did you find a solution?
Great review thank you! One question to compare with my Plexamid is that one night I camped on a col with breeze behind. In the night it shifted 180 deg to full frontal and gusted 50-60mph so the tent was almost blown away, as the wind came up and under, but it stood, with some visible wear to the top of the doors. The question is, do the Aeon Li doors come down lower at the front? The Plex doors rise up much higher than the back of the tent, so it catches the wind. Thanks
Hi, I tried checking it but I did not see any update on your opinion about this tent that I am aiming to get but waiting for some more inputs, if you have any... Thanks in advance!
In your comparison to the Zpacks plexamid it has a central width of the floor at 38" which offers a nice advantage to store gear inside? I enjoyed your review, I'm getting the Aeon Li, just saying ;) Btw which backpack are you using in the video I'm getting a vaude zerum 48+ backpack, wondering if it would be appropriate for true hiking Thanks Thanks
My question relates to the 8" ZPack vs 4" TT bathtub floor. I had an original Zpacks Hexamid tent with no bathtub floor just netting and pitched best with the perimeter well off the ground. It was insanely light but breezy and offered less privacy. There was still the condensation factor. I'm wondering if the aeon li then would be more drafty with the lower bathtub wall?
Honestly, when I pitched the two side by side In windy conditions I didn’t notice *much* of a difference, but the Plexamid felt more drafty because the fabric bellows more in the wind. The Aeon is more stable so at least, there is a perception that it’s not as drafty. I may have to sit inside both in a windstorm and measure air movement inside the tent to really get a feel for if there is a meaningful difference.
Off topic, but what's the cord you have on the back of your sunglasses? It looks technical; is it related to making your recording? I'd like to know because I do some outdoors videos for friends that aren't here on RUclips. Anything that makes it lighter and easier is welcome!
Lest we forget z-pack’s horrible customer service. If your are thinking between the two companies go with tarp tents. I sent zpacks an email to cancel my order and they never answered had to dispute the charge to get my money back
This is one of the biggest reasons to why I bought this tent. I’ve returned many times to this great review. Thanks Ryan!
Excellent review! I appreciate that you offer a review like a industrial product designer, and not just a marketing approach, or user only review that lacks extensive construction/engineering experience.
Thanks for this thorough review! I also own the Aeon Li and was able to test it this weekend on a wet and windy camping trip in Central Oregon. This is my second Tarptent - I also have the Moment DW. I bought this tent for an ultralight option on longer or more difficult trips. It takes a bit more to setup than the Moment, but that's to be expected. This is my first single wall tent and I was worried that it would be cold and have condensation issues. However, I had zero condensation inside even though it rained a fair amount on this trip. There was a lot of wind, and that certainly helps with keeping it dry inside. Even in gusts up to 40 mph, there was little tent movement, and I didn't feel the wind inside the tent so I stayed warm all night. Overall, I'm happy with it, and super happy to be carrying less weight on trail.
Thanks for the great review. Very well done, very complete. I own two Tarptents, and your review proves that Henry is just a tent genius (Tent god?)!.... Again, thanks.
This review is why I purchased my Aeon li. I hit the American Discovery Trail March 1st let's see how this tent holds up. I have nothing but great things to say about Tarptent. Great customer service great solid tent build.
Fantastic review Ryan! The detail you provided was awesome. Personally I am a big fan of Tarptent! Own 3 of them and they are all fantastic. Looks like I am on my way to #4.
On a side note - If you enjoyed this video and are not a Backpacking Light member I would encourage you to join. I am a life member and this is an example of the quality information Ryan and the BPL community provides.
Great review. Very thorough. I can't think of a single question that you didn't answer.
I just got back from a trip to 11K feet in the Sierra where my hiking partner had the Tarptent Aeon and we got rained and hailed on. Her tent held up like a champ! It took a beating and all her stuff was bone dry!
Yeah, really great ‘real world’ reviews. Thank you.
I’d love to see you do one on the Stratospire Li
This channel is nice, i discovered you from the podcast about Dyneema (heard twice to improve my english) . Now i have been watching the videos, really interesting reviews, specially those about Dirigo 2 and Aeon Li. I can understand why there are only 2.4k followers, your page are one of the best. Keep doing these. Bye.
After thoroughly considering the different options, your review tipped the scale and I just bought this! Thanks, great work!
Holy Crap Ryan! Wha5 an awesome and thorough review. I have listened to your podcast and have been impressed, but if this is an example of what I can find on your site, it think you just sold a new subscription. WOW!
Thank you so much Ryan. I was waiting for a review from you.
Very clear review of a great new tent. Much appreciate your time sharing this. I have a 6 year old Dyneema Lightheart tent. They no longer make them, because they said they're difficult to make.
I stopped using it for two reason....
1. It would flap loudly in the wind. I was never able to make a right setup. I even sent it back to Lightheart to remove excess panel material. You stated that TT has no issue with this. Great to hear.....👍
2. It required a large clear footprint to set up. The tie-outs were numerous. I easily took up three freestanding tent sites. It looks like the TT tent is much smaller.... 👍
I'm going to wait a.couple seasons and see if TT makes any tweaks to it before purchasing one.
Thx
Dyneema tents require some very tight precision to keep them from flapping in wind - there’s no stretch to the fabric so it’s pretty unforgiving if either design or manufacturing is even a little bit sloppy.
Great review (as always) Ryan. You do a great job breaking things down and giving a balanced perspective. This does look like a great shelter.
Fascinating...ready to drop some $$ on a lightweight dyneema and the depth of the Zpacks bathtub was what I was drawn to with that brand (and the fact their camo version wasn't translucent!!) But you think the 8" depth is more of a detriment than a benefit? Very interesting. What about the transparency of the fabric of the Aeon Li? I am drawn to the ease of set up and fewer stakes etc of the Aeon Li. Its been several months since your video so would love an update just to let us know if it is still highly recommend (it's currently out of stock ....but in the meantime...should I wait for this one to be back in stock?!) Im 5'4 and under 120 lbs so hoping the inside has room for me and the majority of my stuff!
This is an awesome tent, I absolutely love mine, and that was a great review. But you forgot to mention one of the features it has while discussing the bathtub floor height vs the plexamid. The aeon has a built in attachment to connect the floor to the tent wall which raises up the bathtub floor heighth considerably when needed. It would've completely eliminated that snow drift that made it's way in. You can see how this attachment works in the official Tarptent setup video near the end when they discuss the extra features.
Unfortunately that back “adjustment” cord used to raise the floor is really only there to minimize upsplash of rain that is pounding against the back of the tent. It raises the floor a little at that location, but it doesn’t really close off the perimeter mesh, which is where spindrift enters. It was raised during the night where the tent was setup in the big snowstorm.
@@BackpackingLightUSA aw gotcha, thanks for the reply. Haven't even used that feature yet but figured it would be a little more useful than it apparently is.
Outstanding review! There is a lot to like about this design.
Thank you for showing how this tent operates in the wind; talk about compelling -
Thanks Ryan. Interesting video for an interesting and innovative tent. For the lightest weight with good comfort features and pitching options for storm protection the Aeon seems to be the best choice of the Dyneema mids. Your detailed review answered every question I had about this tent. Seems that when henry Shires finally decided to make Dyneema tents he went all in.
I'm likely getting a TT Notch LI this summer. One of the first things I'll do is add 4 fly hem stake loops, 2 loops per side. I will reinforce the attachment point areas first with Dyneema repair tape cut in 3" diameter circles, folded and attached so it forms a half circle on both sides of the fly hem giving you double reinforcement. Fly hem stakes cut flapping way down in high winds, giving me a better night's sleep.
For another 1.5 oz.and more durability I'm getting the silnylon floor and for protection from blowing dust the ripstop inner tent.
The Notch Li + ripstop inner tent would be a fantastic combination for wind and winter!
Well done for a concise and intelligent review. Happy trails to you...
The photos seem to show a slight catenary cut to the seams the Tarptent, not apparent in the Plexamid. Checked website - yes, catenary cut seams. Makes sense that it would be quieter in wind than the Plexamid.
Any chance of you doing a review on the notch li? It’s obvious very similar to this model but she be even more sturdy with the two pole design.
Fantastic review - thanks for being so thorough.
Hello Ryan, How do you feel about the Aeon Li now. Have you had a chance to use it a few more times?
I purchased one a few weeks ago. only camped with it twice so far. (many more to come this year).
So far I love it. Coming from a Nemo Hornet Elite 2p, which is a very nice tent. The one I used on your Timberline trek last Sept.( the trek was awesome!!) The Nemo is 2-1/2 lbs...I saved 1-1/2 lbs from my base weight!!
Thank you for the detailed reviews and videos. Great Job!
marcello alvisi Hi, still loving the Aeon after some more time... any thoughts...? I am aiming to get one with next batch. Btw, I noticed you have an italian name, may I ask you if you got the tent from Italy or Europe, or if you got it direct from Henry? Thanks in advance.
@@adopancia7445 Hi there, So far I have used it 7 nights camping(5 nights of it on a section of the AT middle Virginia, Sept 2019... It's been great! I will get out with it in the next few weeks. I live in PA. I purchased the tent online direct from manufacturer. It is plenty big for me. I am 5'7". Rmember,it is ONLY 1 Lb. You cannot beat the weight for the performance. I hope that helps you make a decision either way...Hike on!!
Great review!!! I hope you post an update once you've ridden out a good rain storm to let us know how much splash back you have.
as usual, great review! thanks!
This is a terrific in depth review.
Thanks for the feedback, greatly appreciated!
Hey Ryan the looming question is why do you appear to like the Aeon Li better than the Notch Li? The Notch needs two poles but SMD has 45" poles at only 1.7oz each so the additional pole needed for the Notch combined with the very small extra weight of the Notch totals only a few extra ounces over the Aeon. It is true the Notch packs up to 2" longer than the Aeon and is more expensive but let's say who cares to these negatives. And let's say the Notch is far superior to the Aeon as it is a double wall tent, much better with condensation, better for views, it can even be just a topless open mesh tent, and as you say it just has much better liveability. So really isn't the extra three ounces worth all that better liveability? I want to ask you about this because your opinions are the most thorough but when you say that you might buy an Aeon Li and make a video for it but you don't mention the Notch Li in that video or make a video for it I am left wanting for your comparison of the Aeon Li vs Notch Li. And I've seen both your backpacking light reviews of both tents and in reading them I come up with the Notch being the better tent - and yet as I said you did not make a video for the Notch and said you might buy an Aeon. So what gives? What is it about the Aeon Li that you like over the Notch Li?
The guylines, or lack thereof and how tight they can be set to the canopy make this a very compelling option. It practically sets up in its own footprint. I own a duplex and didn't think anything would prevent me from selling it and buying the plexamid. I'm still selling it but I'm almost certain the Aeon will be what replaces it. No guyline in the front and my trecking pole canted inline with the verticle part of the zipper is really cool too. There are too many unique design features in this to be overlooked.
Great review! I wonder if you would have any further opinions after having some acclimated usage of the Aeon Li?
Great, comprehensive review Ryan! Thanks. I subscribed a few weeks ago to BPL. I have a couple questions regarding the Aeon Li vs the Notch Li & SS Li. 1) Do you know how the inner floor spaces compare between Aeon & Notch? It's hard to tell by dimensions alone. Specifically, for accommodating a long wide pad (i.e. Nemo Alpine). It appears that maybe the Aeon has more space than the Notch. 2) Provided the Notch Li can equally accommodate a long wide pad, do you think the Notch Li (DW, solid inner) would be better for AT section hiking, Pisgah & the Smokies given the DW condensation advantages (outside of good site selection)? I find Henry seems to steer people toward the Notch Li over the Aeon Li for this reason - but again, floor seems tighter in the Notch (?). Lastly (3), the Stratosphere Li is also very compelling (more room for pad, dog, etc & still a reasonable weight-to-size)... do you think the increased size of the SS Li footprint would make it difficult to use in the areas (listed above) I primarily hike? Grateful for you work & appreciate any detailed feedback you might provide. Thanks!
Hey Steve. I’m looking at the same 3 tents, with the same questions. Did you end up picking one? You probably know on SS Li you can pitch one vestibule straight which would help with the footprint somewhat.
@@scottschrum1065 No, not yet. I've upgraded most of the rest of my kit to reduce weight (pack, bag, etc) but am having trouble finalizing my shelter. Mostly re SW vs DW for condensation management & durability of DCF. How about you?
I enjoyed your review. In the video you mentioned that you are a pyramid tenter and that you use the Locus Gear Khufu? What are your thoughts on the Tyvek version? Last question, can you roll and pack the Khufu fly and inner mesh liner together? Thank you!
Can you explain your possible contradiction when talking about the cross strut in this tent (offers stability in windier conditions) and when you talk about the very similar design in the new dirigo 2 tent (causes a torsional, rotational INstability in higher winds) - or have I just misunderstood one of your comments?
I just wish there was the option for a 0.74oz fly, I've had such a good experience with the beefier fabric on my Zpacks.
Yes, me too!
@@BackpackingLightUSA I'd like to see that too, as well as a taller bathtub... even if was just 1" taller. I suppose Dyneema for those corner vents wouldn't hurt either. I wonder why they didn't make them like that to start off with? Have you noticed any drawbacks to that, what looks to be, nylon?
Ripstop's DCF is single-direction strands below 0.8 oz. Double-direction strands 0.8 oz and above. I find more important than DCF weight is strand direction diversity, so always lean towards 0.8 oz from RiostopbytheRoll. Not sure about Zpacks and TarpTent's strand-diversity vs fabric-weight?
@@BackpackingLightUSA have you had any experience with zpack duplex? if yes what you think compare to aeon li for one person? I know duplex is two-person but seems price-wise is different only a lil bit. But airflow and condensation seems doing well on aeon li huh?
Hello Ryan. Thank you for review. What you decided? Aeon Li or pyramid or both? :)
Awesome review, thanks.
Great review Ryan... I'm 6" and a bit... would that still work in your opinion and one would not touch walls all the time with the feet (sleeping bag & pad)?
What is that lovely backpack you're using, seen at 22:00 minutes in?
Bill - it's the REI Flash 55 (snp.link/1965e626). It's actually a pretty awesome pack, with a lot of features that are great for organization and gear access. My favorite feature is that it has two stretch side pockets on each side that can be accessed from the trail. It also has a pretty refined harness that's quite comfy, even under pretty heavy loads (> 30 lb).
All conditions being equal-this tent or Notch Li?
Hi Thanks for a great review of this tent realy helped my in my thinking. One dog question. I have an Riesenschnuser, equal to your dog in size.
How is the space to have the dog inside the inner. Thanks again, Keep posting and I Will go on watching. Per from Sweden
Per - thanks for nice comment! Honestly, it’s going to be a pretty tight fit. With dogs as big as ours, 2-man tents are going to be the way to go.
Backpacking Light Thanks thats What I was afraid off. I probably will go for an Zpacks duplex, but I realy wanted this to fit. Once again Thanks and have a nice weekend. Per
DO you have anything to say about positioning the vestibule flush with the wall of the tent to "fit in tight places"? That seems to be a selling point on the website. Great video
Yes, that’s possible but I’m not so sure many people would actually camp in a tight enough space to consider this a “feature”. Maybe a very rare just in case option.
I have done this with a Duplex and Notch Li without issue.
I have the Aeon LI and have been pretty satisfied. The biggest frustration that I have is the struts falling out of the sockets on the side and top I ended up losing a strut because it feel out of the sockets. Have you had this issue and did you find a solution?
Can you include the link for the adjustable pole, please?
Great review, cheers
Great review thank you! One question to compare with my Plexamid is that one night I camped on a col with breeze behind. In the night it shifted 180 deg to full frontal and gusted 50-60mph so the tent was almost blown away, as the wind came up and under, but it stood, with some visible wear to the top of the doors. The question is, do the Aeon Li doors come down lower at the front? The Plex doors rise up much higher than the back of the tent, so it catches the wind. Thanks
What was that cool looking wooden mug you were drinking your tea out of at one point Ryan?
It was a gift from a friend of mine who lives in Norway!
Thank you for addressing giant people problems!
In these one person shelters, how do you fit your large sized dog in there with you?
Nate
Sold!!
I wonder how hot this tent would be in the summer with the vestibule doors closed.
It actually doesn’t get so warm, the great airflow is very effective in reducing both hot temperature and condensation.
Another great video - very informative - what camera do you use 😊🇩🇰
Hi, I tried checking it but I did not see any update on your opinion about this tent that I am aiming to get but waiting for some more inputs, if you have any... Thanks in advance!
Any comments on the latch mechanism that closes the vestibules? Wondering if a zipper would be a better option.
The latch and Velcro work fine on fabric this light. Zippers would work well with a slightly heavier fabric.
In your comparison to the Zpacks plexamid it has a central width of the floor at 38" which offers a nice advantage to store gear inside?
I enjoyed your review, I'm getting the Aeon Li, just saying ;)
Btw which backpack are you using in the video I'm getting a vaude zerum 48+ backpack, wondering if it would be appropriate for true hiking
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I should have read all the review I see that the pack is a REI 55 Flash
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My question relates to the 8" ZPack vs 4" TT bathtub floor. I had an original Zpacks Hexamid tent with no bathtub floor just netting and pitched best with the perimeter well off the ground. It was insanely light but breezy and offered less privacy. There was still the condensation factor. I'm wondering if the aeon li then would be more drafty with the lower bathtub wall?
Honestly, when I pitched the two side by side In windy conditions I didn’t notice *much* of a difference, but the Plexamid felt more drafty because the fabric bellows more in the wind. The Aeon is more stable so at least, there is a perception that it’s not as drafty. I may have to sit inside both in a windstorm and measure air movement inside the tent to really get a feel for if there is a meaningful difference.
What kind of sunglasses are you wearing?
Hi, what boots and bindings are you skiing on? Thanks!
My boots are Alpina Alaskas (BCNNN binding, Rotefella's.)
Off topic, but what's the cord you have on the back of your sunglasses? It looks technical; is it related to making your recording? I'd like to know because I do some outdoors videos for friends that aren't here on RUclips. Anything that makes it lighter and easier is welcome!
Nothing technical, just a pilot fish sunglass retainer!
Thanks for the thorough review! Any pros and cons now that you/ve had time to use the Aeon LI more?
Nothing major since doing the video. I hope they release a more affordable, silnylon version - it’s a very good design.
Lest we forget z-pack’s horrible customer service. If your are thinking between the two companies go with tarp tents. I sent zpacks an email to cancel my order and they never answered had to dispute the charge to get my money back
What breed is your dog? I think I own his/her brother 😄
She’s a yellow Labrador retriever!
Tent envy here. :-/
Adding a guideline to pull out the side wall would create additional space for a footbox like the zpacks duplex.
Anyone do this modification?
I own a Hexamid Plus Tarp...mine weighs 14ounces...
Just took the plunge on my first dcf tent and went with this one! This review helped for sure! Can't wait!!
Very exciting! Good luck.👍