Is Ariana Grande THE BEST Vocalist in the WORLD?? Full CVSS Vocal Analysis + Live Vocal Range!

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
  • Hey guys!! This is Episode 3 in the new CVSS series.
    Episode 1: Barbra Streisand • Is Barbra Streisand TH...
    Episode 2: Lara Fabian • Is Lara Fabian THE BES...
    My Instagram: @camden.epperson
    A major thank you to everyone involved in the creation of this video. This took so long to make, but I am so happy with the result and I hope you are too.
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    ▬ Contents of this video ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
    0:00 - Intro
    1:11 - Belted Notes
    18:11 - Low Notes
    22:25 - Head Voice
    27:45 - Whistle Notes
    31:08 - Agility
    34:43 - Breath Management
    35:18 - Vocal Control
    40:24 - (Lack of) Vocal Issues
    40:48 - Vocal Quality
    40:59 - Vocal Effects
    42:22 - Results
    43:22- Outro
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  • @CamdenE
    @CamdenE  3 года назад +50

    (My insta is @camden.epperson if you want a faster reply to questions/comments!)
    *Edits/Updates:*
    1. There was an editing mistake in the whistle section, the top right corner was supposed to change! The correct scoring is at the beginning of the whistle notes section.
    2. I did find a same note transition at the end of diamonds are a girls best friend but i forgot to update the text, so her scoring is right in the vocal control section!

    • @michaelabella4697
      @michaelabella4697 3 года назад +1

      Morissette CVSS please make it sooner

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +1

      @@michaelabella4697 going as fast as I can!

    • @joy7900
      @joy7900 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE go Camden I'm always on your back

    • @speedycomet1692
      @speedycomet1692 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE Hey Camden! Just a quick question. If were to make a "supported" range video. Would free notes be included?

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад

      @@speedycomet1692 nope! Grounded ones would though!

  • @moonlightfral7111
    @moonlightfral7111 3 года назад +130

    The point of this video? Ariana is a better vocalist than people on RUclips can think. :)

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +16

      Yup!

    • @nigelslatcher8761
      @nigelslatcher8761 3 года назад +3

      Autotune ✌🍩😄

    • @zustz2185
      @zustz2185 3 года назад +40

      @@nigelslatcher8761 he never entered the chat 😄✌

    • @XDF745
      @XDF745 3 года назад +3

      @@zustz2185 he often enters the chat when people don't realise he's there.

    • @moonlight-nv7um
      @moonlight-nv7um 3 года назад +9

      @@nigelslatcher8761 shut up and stay pressed😂✌️

  • @grandeflamesbutera3949
    @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +148

    This is finally the time where we start appreciating Ariana as the vocalist she is!!!!!. She is vocally trained for 20 years and her technique is perfect for her voice and it allows so much vocal freedom in her voice.

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +11

      @Nessaj Thats not really a problem tho

    • @jevonchan2297
      @jevonchan2297 3 года назад +3

      Searching for 'Ariana strains above B4'

    • @everton7361
      @everton7361 3 года назад +10

      @Nessaj We already know your opinion on her voice, ok? You don't need to keep saying that in every comment in this video. Im sorry but it's annoying

    • @everton7361
      @everton7361 3 года назад +3

      "her technique is perfect for her voice"!!!

    • @speedycomet1692
      @speedycomet1692 3 года назад +2

      @@grandeflamesbutera3949 Hi!! Just have a few questions. I know your worked with Camden for Ari's CVSS video I loved it BTW. Within that video can u please help me and tell me where these clips are E5 11:33 Bb3s 18:46 G3s 20:15 F#3 20:48

  • @speedycomet1692
    @speedycomet1692 3 года назад +97

    I'm so proud of Ariana!!! She's not a singer she a vocalist and our golden girl We love you ❤Ari!!!❤

    • @nigelslatcher8761
      @nigelslatcher8761 3 года назад +2

      Lipsync does wonders.🤣✌🍩

    • @amberneco2697
      @amberneco2697 3 года назад +15

      @@nigelslatcher8761 just can’t give a person credit can you 😂

    • @nigelslatcher8761
      @nigelslatcher8761 3 года назад +1

      Amber Herbert.Nope not when they sing through her nose. 🍩😄✌

    • @speedycomet1692
      @speedycomet1692 3 года назад +9

      @@nigelslatcher8761 that doesn't make any sense tho

    • @rjstark4897
      @rjstark4897 3 года назад +7

      @@nigelslatcher8761 lol fyi all singers do lip sync.But for ariana She has proven a lot.She can support up to E5 and partially up to F5/F#5 and can support down to F#3.Also Her vibrato is amazing and natural.Also She has better pitch than Mariah carey and Has one of the most beautiful and amazing falsetto.Her mix is quite balanced and i dont wanna have a longe paragraph just to give it to a pressed person lol

  • @ThePianoguy89
    @ThePianoguy89 3 года назад +55

    Ariana is one of the best young vocalists under the age of 30. She has grown since her debut and she's continuing to improve. Her technique is great contrary to popular belief. People need to throw away the idea that she has bad technique, she strains above B4, and that she has no head voice. Her voice is very free throughout the fifth octave. She knows exactly what she's doing with her voice. She makes the conscious decision when to belt and mix when she needs to. She has great coordination over her voice and that's a sign of healthy technique. So when people say that ease isn't everything that's stupid and contradictory. Ease is very essential to healthy singing. The point of practicing healthy singing is to have total ease where one doesn't have to think about it. That's the whole point. The whole point of easy and healthy singing is to do it with repetition and she does that very well. She doesn't have any major vocal issues that resulted in having any serious vocal injuries. The fact that her upper belt/mix is consistently free up to G5/G#5 proves that. It's free of any serious form of tension, strain, discomfort, and pain. It's silly how people draw conclusions about her technique even when it can easily. She has some vocal flaws with tongue and jaw tension but it's not anything major. It would only be a major issue if it compromised her ability to sing on a consistent basis. A little bit of tension is necessary to belt up there. No belt is ever without any form of tension. Belting involves compression and subglottal pressure. Unnecessary tension and constriction is dangerous to one's vocal health and longevity so it's really stupid to say she strains above B4. People really misuse the word support and strain heavily. People have to realize that singing is a mental and physical thing. It involves muscle memory. She's consciously aware of what she's doing what her voice and her muscle memory that she has is proof of that. She goes for those high belts with great ease and freedom because she has great technique, she has great coordination, and her muscle memory is on point. Her breath management is pretty flawed but she made some improvements in that department. Another misconception is that she has no head voice. Just because her head voice doesn't sound like Beyoncé or Whitney doesn't mean that she doesn't use head voice. She is using head voice with a lighter coordination and she adds air to her head voice to make it sound very pretty and light. There are different head voice coordinations and she's using an upper head voice. Falsettos are very breathy and quiet. She's not using falsetto in these clips. You can still hear a formant in her upper register and that should indicate that she's using head voice. Her whistles are really good and I'm glad that she's using them a little more. Her agility is insane and she makes great use of it. Her dynamics are good but I think she should explore more with it. A total free range of E3~Bb5~F6 is amazing. Ariana slays!

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +7

      Yes yes yes!

    • @ThePianoguy89
      @ThePianoguy89 3 года назад +2

      @@CamdenE Could you remove Nessaj from this? He is trolling under everyone's comments being very annoying.

    • @lightning0506
      @lightning0506 3 года назад +5

      Couldnt say it better but Im glad our efforts arent wasted actually, yes there are some idiots here and there like Nessaj, Illuminati and our fav duet - Ryans Channel and Garage lmao but you can already see their voice finally drowned in the space of truth. They can be pissed off as much as they want but it wont change anything. In reality they actually dont wish anything bad for Ariana but their ego is dictating them to defend itself and it looks as pathetic as it can possibly be. Imagine having all the proofs and still go against the flow. Admirable but stupid and laughable

    • @subliminal5543
      @subliminal5543 3 года назад +1

      @@lightning0506 Where's the proof? Can y'all show them? You aren't different from me either, you are on EVERYWHERE calling people who disagrees with you misguided and idiots. Oh, in another thread where I replied weren't you calling their opinion bullshit :)? So why should we agree with you? So instead of attacking people can y'all provide any knowledge which you have none. There were multiple times garage schooled you (oops) and drowned? They are outliking y'all

    • @ThePianoguy89
      @ThePianoguy89 3 года назад +2

      @@lightning0506 It's really exhausting dealing with their foolishness.

  • @lightning0506
    @lightning0506 3 года назад +102

    It took forever but here we are lmao. Waiting for haters comments about
    "She can't support past B4"
    "Disclocated jaw"
    "Mosquito"
    And other pleasant things while in reality not a single one of them can sing even remotely close to her. Ariana might have some issues (as every living person duh) but her skills are insanely good especially for her age. Let's just praise all the vocalists we have here. No need to create stanwars about who's better and who's not. They're all great and fully deserved their recognition

    • @othaviorodriguesreis1222
      @othaviorodriguesreis1222 3 года назад +6

      She is incredible, but these comments aren't hater. It's Just what it is.

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +13

      @@othaviorodriguesreis1222 Elaborate

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +8

      @@othaviorodriguesreis1222 Pls elaborate

    • @everton7361
      @everton7361 3 года назад +5

      @@othaviorodriguesreis1222 no, it's not what it is, these are lies
      (E pq eu to falando em inglês se vc é brasileiro tambm? Kkk)

    • @ThePianoguy89
      @ThePianoguy89 3 года назад +14

      @@othaviorodriguesreis1222 The comments are misinformation and people just parrot what others say.

  • @KK-yp2lh
    @KK-yp2lh 3 года назад +130

    the way she will surpass everyone because positions era will be full of whistles

    • @whitneyhoustonstan2472
      @whitneyhoustonstan2472 3 года назад +26

      I really want her to go back to her falsetto era! Her Eb6s need a “comeback” on the album, or even higher. But a whistle era would be so incredible!!!

    • @moonlightespt3818
      @moonlightespt3818 3 года назад +22

      Your right, in my hair she sung a chorus entirely in whistle register and hit also a really low note

    • @ammarnasir4212
      @ammarnasir4212 3 года назад +1

      @@moonlightespt3818 where u hear that she sings it?

    • @KK-yp2lh
      @KK-yp2lh 3 года назад +1

      @@moonlightespt3818 WHAT,?!!! ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE LEAKERS?

    • @moonlightespt3818
      @moonlightespt3818 3 года назад +4

      K K ohh nooo I asked a leaker account and they told me and I think it's true cause Ariana's album got leaked and people are saying that

  • @mynameissurya18
    @mynameissurya18 3 года назад +8

    This is amazing! 👏 I didn't even know many of these clips from Ariana! She's truly great!! 🥰

  • @JA-xx7vw
    @JA-xx7vw 3 года назад +18

    i love the term grounded notes as a mental image is more efficient than support

  • @musicboxtour5854
    @musicboxtour5854 3 года назад +192

    Ngl ari's whistle has the best tone ever, along with MC

    • @lennoxbonnie5210
      @lennoxbonnie5210 3 года назад +13

      we love to see it✨💕

    • @erikadelgado3514
      @erikadelgado3514 3 года назад +16

      Agree, the one in 29:07 is just 😍

    • @moongrande28
      @moongrande28 3 года назад +5

      omg, u said it

    • @drewm.2790
      @drewm.2790 3 года назад +11

      They’re my two most favorite in terms of tone in whistles

    • @moonlight-nv7um
      @moonlight-nv7um 3 года назад +18

      @Lizzie Smith tbh I don't like morissette's whistle they are mostly pitchy

  • @11mory11
    @11mory11 3 года назад +26

    Her tone and whistles in that spongepop thing was amazing

  • @thandiam2151
    @thandiam2151 3 года назад +37

    It's really remarkable for her to have that score in such an age. Her voice will mature and she will develop skills WE still haven't experienced. Can't wait. Great video btw, I loved it

    • @jalliboy
      @jalliboy Год назад +1

      and stilll floor jansen is WAY better !

    • @EricSmith-zm8do
      @EricSmith-zm8do 2 месяца назад

      @@jalliboy and still nobody wants to stream her trash-ass music!

  • @VanessaGomezv
    @VanessaGomezv 3 года назад +17

    as a voice teacher, i thank you for your terminology!! love this video!

  •  3 года назад +48

    Waiting for the whistle section, her 6th octave is bomb

    •  3 года назад +21

      @Nessaj So...? Who said they were...? Dude you don't need to go around everywhere discrediting Ariama just because you don't like her lol Betty's name wasn't even mentioned

    • @everton7361
      @everton7361 3 года назад +9

      @ yes he needs to stop discrediting Ariama Gramde

    • @edumx2015
      @edumx2015 3 года назад +1

      @ He is always comparing singers, even if no one mentions them

    • @sypax670
      @sypax670 3 года назад

      @Nessaj powerful wistel are not plesent for the ear so shut up plz don't act domb

    • @11mory11
      @11mory11 3 года назад

      @@everton7361 aria(m)a gra(m)de LOL 😂😂😂

  • @CamdenE
    @CamdenE  3 года назад +44

    Vanessa Amorosi coming next! So excited to start editing frequently again like I used to!

    • @samsimpson01
      @samsimpson01 3 года назад +1

      Yessss I love Vanessa Amorosi!!

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +1

      @Nessaj My friend discovered many unnoticed clips so I can't wait!

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +1

      @@samsimpson01 me too!

    • @Diego_Santa
      @Diego_Santa 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE LMAOOO

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +1

      @Nessaj Huh?

  • @jer9grant
    @jer9grant 2 года назад +12

    Ariana's interesting since we basically hear her sing since she is like 15 years old until now and she's 28.
    And she's been cast in a movie musical soprano role. I look forward to how her voice develops in the coming years 🙂

  • @Empy003
    @Empy003 3 года назад +114

    To the dear haters, repeat after me:
    " Ariana performs in huge stadiums and like 97% of her fans still don't get to see her and whatever you guys are complaining about her enunciation (it's a stylistic choice anyways), she's the most followed singer on Earth😂 cuz ppl like....sorry, LOVE to listen to her Angelic voice whatsoever and know that she is the singer of our generation".

    • @nigelslatcher8761
      @nigelslatcher8761 3 года назад +3

      Who's ariana. 😄

    • @Empy003
      @Empy003 3 года назад +16

      @@nigelslatcher8761 a queen 😄

    • @nigelslatcher8761
      @nigelslatcher8761 3 года назад +2

      Who?

    • @oemor1842
      @oemor1842 3 года назад +8

      @@nigelslatcher8761 why are u here then?

    • @fariassanez
      @fariassanez 3 года назад +9

      @@oemor1842 Because he's a hater, I'm already seeing too many comments from him throwing hate, poor idiot

  • @lennoxbonnie5210
    @lennoxbonnie5210 3 года назад +4

    I'm so proud of her🥺I've been a fan for like a decade now ugh😢

  • @nicososasosa
    @nicososasosa 3 года назад +1

    Wow amazing video!!!

  • @edumx2015
    @edumx2015 3 года назад +17

    For me personally she is one of the best, unfortunately she did not get so many points 💔. She is underrated. She was / Is / Will be my inspiration and her tone is simply one of the best in my opinion

    • @edumx2015
      @edumx2015 3 года назад +1

      @Nessaj People say that she can't support above B4, when the reality is that she can support Bb5s. Well maybe for you it is overrated but for me it is underrated. Different perspectives.

    • @Number-ek1hf
      @Number-ek1hf 3 года назад +1

      Edu Aguayo there are different terms of support, what you’re referring to is breath support, the technical term isn’t just about breath support, because you can have great breath support and strain. Her biggest problem is her jaw tension which prohibits her from supporting most notes above C#5/D5 and occasionally Eb5.

    • @edumx2015
      @edumx2015 3 года назад

      @@Number-ek1hf There are like 4 terms that support is, which I get very confused 😭. What if I was referring to the term breath control. Whitney also had problems of jaw tension in the past.

  • @rileygarrett2637
    @rileygarrett2637 3 года назад +2

    I'm gonna say it, this was the best 40:00 of 2020! Deserves endless views

  • @tasoslts3480
    @tasoslts3480 3 года назад +4

    Amazing job Cam!! Although I don't particularly like her, one can't deny she has a great voice!! I'm glad she didn't pass Lara and Barbra though...

  • @MrFreyTV
    @MrFreyTV 3 года назад +7

    I hope you will do Céline's CVSS again someday. I just feel that she is still being underrated by many. For example, despite proofs of her agility surfacing lately, many people still think that it's not one of her strong points.
    I've mentioned this in one video but as what the late Charlotte Dawson has said, "They can eat their words, their tongue, and their face!"

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +1

      I will! If you'd like to help, here's a link! cvssworkshop.freeforums.net/

    • @MrFreyTV
      @MrFreyTV 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE I can't recognize notes but I'll try to find clips that might help.

  • @MrFreyTV
    @MrFreyTV 3 года назад +1

    I am excited for Vanessa's CVSS especially given the fact that you will use clips that you weren't able to use before in her previous CVSS. She has a lot of great performances!

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +2

      She does! Diego Santa found great ones!

    • @MrFreyTV
      @MrFreyTV 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE There is one performance of hers though that I am dying to watch again. It's her live performance of Tent by the Sea. But if somehow you find it, please give me the link. I highly doubt it though since I'm pretty sure it got deleted. How I wished I downloaded it.

    • @Diego_Santa
      @Diego_Santa 3 года назад

      @@MrFreyTV the one where she was younger and sang “Turn to me” was deleted :(

    • @MrFreyTV
      @MrFreyTV 3 года назад

      @@Diego_Santa 😢

  • @arigraal14
    @arigraal14 3 года назад +9

    Im so proud of Ariana 😢😍

  • @markira9382
    @markira9382 3 года назад +16

    Im so excited!
    We already saw a snippet (more like sneak peak) of her belting range
    Her head voice is soooo good
    Whistle register!
    Lows might not be the best but it's not bad either
    My guess before was around like 114 points but seeing the snippet it might reach above 120+
    Also excited because her 6th studio album coming soon!
    Edit: oh wow, I guess I overscored?
    Honestly I thought that her whistle register would give some extra points but I guess I was wrong
    Still though great video!

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +3

      Thank you!!

  • @terryosteen8378
    @terryosteen8378 3 года назад +20

    She has amazing mix. She intrigues me like Celine dion, because they both raise their larynx but have amazing ease, making me question support. But I wonder if you put reverb into account, but most of her upper belts have reverb. You can obviously hear her larynx up, but that is not always a bad thing. I don’t know what I feel about her being free in her belts, but anyways, good video.

    • @lightning0506
      @lightning0506 3 года назад +21

      Ring isn't necessary for pop singers, that's true what you said about reverb. But high larynx, if you actually read vocal pedagogy book, is a necessary condition for belting, Ariana is a belter hence she just has to use high larynx position. It's physically impossible to belt as high as she with neutral or low larynx. Physically impossible. Ariana has insane amount of skill, ease AND her voice didn't deteriorate despite all the beliefs. So she must be doing something right

    • @terryosteen8378
      @terryosteen8378 3 года назад +1

      @@lightning0506 I agree with you about high larynx, but sometimes you can hear her larynx up, and I wonder without reverb would the note be counted as free. But, no doubt Ariana is talented.

  • @arigraal14
    @arigraal14 3 года назад

    OMG YESS FINALLYYYY YEHEY 😍😍

  • @albincesko1488
    @albincesko1488 3 года назад +3

    This comment section made my day🤣😂🤣😂🤣 people are weeeird, great video Camden👍👍👍👍

  • @siem9329
    @siem9329 3 года назад +14

    Hope you do Morissette Next or re-upload her CVSS 🥺👉👈 Ariana is great, why everyone is downplaying her vocal abilities? 😔😂

  • @mariahland
    @mariahland 3 года назад +37

    Next episode: "Is Selena Gomez the greatest vocalist?"

  • @williamrocha4069
    @williamrocha4069 3 года назад +10

    So her actual supported/grounded range is E3-G#5-D6? Shook!

    • @williamrocha4069
      @williamrocha4069 3 года назад +1

      @Lizzie Smith in the video is shown sua has a grounded E3, G#5 and D6, I was just asking, if can't answer properly, you should just shut up. Even if the video isn't correct, Ariana has already proven she can supported up to Eb5 in belting and D5 in HV, the only idiot here is you

    • @ThePianoguy89
      @ThePianoguy89 3 года назад

      @Lizzie Smith You're the only idiotic troll here.

    • @lalisamanoban9359
      @lalisamanoban9359 3 года назад +1

      @Lizzie Smith make ur own vocal ranking system

  • @LeonnPont
    @LeonnPont 3 года назад +9

    Looking forward to the pressed "legend" stans :)

  • @ebbajarvin
    @ebbajarvin 3 года назад +6

    I Can just say she is in top 3 right now! OFC

  • @lucaslamadrid8227
    @lucaslamadrid8227 3 года назад +1

    i'm wondering if the phrased whistles in 'my hair' would add any points to this? if she were to attempt those live

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +3

      Yes they would add more points to this if she did them live on stage

  • @juanjosecordobaosorno803
    @juanjosecordobaosorno803 3 года назад +1

    I would like to know who do you know if a note is consistent, I mean do you have like a limit or something? Let's say she has "ringed" 10 G#4 and so it becomes a consistently ringing

  • @deyanirahayes
    @deyanirahayes 3 года назад +8

    short answer: yes
    long answer: yes why did you think otherwise

  • @gianluca6403
    @gianluca6403 3 года назад +5

    0:14 she slayed that performance sooo hard, she really was in fireee

  • @mezzomae_1
    @mezzomae_1 2 года назад +6

    Once she improves her enunciation and gets rid of some of the vocal tension that is sometimes present while singing higher notes (since she's in her prime and is also in the middle of improving her technique, these improvements probably won't take long to make for someone as talented and dedicated as herself), she'll definitely be one of the best vocalists in the world. She'll officially be considered one of the divas... like Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Beyonce, Aretha Franklin, Patti Labelle, etc...

    • @kingrodriguez3095
      @kingrodriguez3095 2 года назад +1

      I hope to see the moment she's renowned as a vocal diva. She has the skills and the talent, just a bit more improvements and she'll be one of the greatests!

  • @Ryan_K535
    @Ryan_K535 3 года назад +60

    Definitely one of the best singers right now with Tori, Demi, Jessie. And she has improved a LOOT.
    Some points:
    1) I don’t think she “rings” as much as you showcased. Some notes, I agree on primarily the C5 in “The Wizard And I”, however even if she has shown that capability, she is not consistent on it, especially not on the 5th octave. I would score most notes you counted as ringing, grounded.
    2) Those Touch It C5s, are the best C5s I have heard from her yet. Now, if you use the term “free” as of freedom in her range, which includes consistency, I agree with you 100%. She has so much freedom, consistency and ease up there. However, if you mean “free” as in no tension whatsoever , I disagree on most belted notes. She shows significant jaw tension, and a bad posture (mostly her neck) which can make her whole area from her throat to her whole mouth (tongue, neck) tight, as of lack in back space. Posture is crucial to even speaking, let alone singing, something I learned in therapy for my nodules, as my own mistake I did, which caused my condition.
    3) I pretty much agree with everything else. Her lows, upper register, agility, transitions, EVERYTHING was shown fairly.
    I congratulate you on your HARD work in this 40 minute video, and I admire your objectivity and sense of fairness. Can’t wait for Vanessa, Beyonce and Empress Whitney, which you said you’ll do.🤗🤗

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +8

      None of the tension u named are damaging nor does it stop support by the way

    • @GarageStudio7
      @GarageStudio7 3 года назад +16

      Yes, everything you stated is completely spot on 👏🥰
      You always provide marvelous insight.

    • @Ryan_K535
      @Ryan_K535 3 года назад +1

      @@GarageStudio7 🥰🥰🙃🙃

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +15

      Ariana doesn't ring. Anywhere. Even on that WAI clip. It is not a technique most contemporary vocalists do.

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +9

      @@KajiVocals Exactly. I've been looking at broadway vocalists and not a lot of them do it as well so why do people think Ariana can do it when not even the professionals can?? Its kinda crazy

  • @walidmahdab8475
    @walidmahdab8475 3 года назад +3

    37:41 . I can give you an example of that actually . on one of her break free performances the Oh baby . Oh G5 was in HV and baby G5 in chest. So i think that counts. It was the same syllable and same pitch . i can give a link ruclips.net/video/1GVJWo9-djg/видео.html 8:28

  • @singitout7203
    @singitout7203 3 года назад +3

    One thing she needs to learn is to keep her voice connected, the entire training process on that would improve her entire singing ability, so that 'lighter coordination' won't be used as an excuse for why she leaks air while singing in headvoice, the example showcasing her belting in 3 different coordinations proves this, while chesty she stays connected, while even she stays connected, but heady and all the air escapes like she's whispering, may be the reason for lack of impressive sustains

  • @strandedtraveller1038
    @strandedtraveller1038 3 года назад +1

    Great compilation of clips you have! 👍🏻 Was hoping you'd put her singing in the show "Kidding" to demonstrate the different textures of her belting though. =P
    Aside from that, I do have a couple of remarks:
    1. Even though I love Ari's clean and effortless high belts in "Focus", I personally wouldn't describe any of them as ringing, since the difference between the best attempts (ringing) and the decent ones (grounded) is mainly the audio quality - which leads to me believing that it could be caused by reverb.
    2. You listed her E6 as inconsistently free but there's only one clip where she hit a strained note - I have heard her sounding pushed or going flat on E6 several times so it would be better if you included a few of those examples.
    Nonetheless, your research and editing skills are commendable! 😄 I'm looking forward to start my research/analysis on Lady Gaga and Katy Perry when I have my semester break in December. 😏

  • @non-greasyapple245
    @non-greasyapple245 3 года назад +2

    I wish I could use my mixed voice :(.....Anyways she's amazing and so is your channel.

  • @stefanconstantin3002
    @stefanconstantin3002 3 года назад +19

    Ariana is the vocalist of our generation and no one can change my mind

  • @californiawest5288
    @californiawest5288 3 года назад +7

    I wouldn’t necessarily say Ari is the best in the world, but she’s up there with some big names.

  • @thilananhvu8345
    @thilananhvu8345 3 года назад +2

    Her tone is so girly and pleasant 😍 I wish she would sing whispery type of song like mariah and minnie

    • @subliminal5543
      @subliminal5543 3 года назад

      @@presidentpresident9200 Hi sis, got my account back, imma be less rude

    • @subliminal5543
      @subliminal5543 3 года назад

      @@presidentpresident9200 WHEW, thank god. I just blasted out a few lines in the "tell me why do you think your account was deleted" section and they gave me back!!! But all of my previous comment was deleted lol

  • @moongrande28
    @moongrande28 3 года назад

    Her mid belts on dwt>>>>>
    Good explain and video btw

  • @11mory11
    @11mory11 3 года назад +3

    The F5 in London night 2 was so amazing.. is it grounded ???

  • @betriah4221
    @betriah4221 2 года назад +2

    38:24 i know it's not good for her voice but i just LOVE the RASP on that vocal uugh so agressive

  • @marcorosas6756
    @marcorosas6756 3 года назад +6

    Literally a VOCALIST

  • @hans_0121
    @hans_0121 3 года назад +5

    15:23 R.I.P. repaly button
    btw that is my favorite performance of hers🖤

  • @albincesko1488
    @albincesko1488 3 года назад +2

    I hope you do one for Natalie Weiss one day

  • @juniorvieira1837
    @juniorvieira1837 3 года назад +3

    ⚫I remember seeing videos of who is the best vocalist in the world .... I don't remember if it was on the Candem or Fedsax98 channel ... however, can anyone tell me why these videos were removed?
    ⚫Omg, her bb5's are just outstanding.
    ⚫She really has a resonant/ringing G#5?
    I just loved the video.

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +2

      Thank you! I deleted them because there were many mistakes and they needed updates!

  • @headoverdiors
    @headoverdiors Год назад

    RE DO THIS VIDEO. u did it right before we got the album with her best lows and whistles 😭

  •  3 года назад +4

    Camden, I'm still very early into the video lol but I just wanted to know why you didn't showcase any examples of non-ringing underbelts by Ari, since you scored them as inconsistently ringing. It'd be nice if you included examples that show why the vocalist isn't consistent at a specific note in situations like this one, you know? Anyways, I'm loving the video, I expected nothing less of you ❤

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад

      Great point! For under belts, only rings by ones are scores, and only ones three below the starting note can be considered. I only kept non ringing ones out for time management and because they weren’t getting scored anyway. Hope you enjoy the video! 🥰

    •  3 года назад

      makes total sense, thank you! Also another question lol I always thought this specific E5 here at 31:52 was Tense. If it is free, then why does it sound weird? Like she's not totally in control, I don't know if I'm making myself clear, I cannot be the only one who finds this belt bizarre 😂

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад

      @ I think you accidentally messed up the timestamp!

    • @everton7361
      @everton7361 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE I think its 11:52?

    •  3 года назад

      @@CamdenE sorry! It was 11:36 lol I messed it up because my player was showing the amount of time remaining, and not the amount of time that already passed by 😅

  • @edu.8552
    @edu.8552 3 года назад +11

    she's a good vocalist, been constantly improving even if some still choose to keep blind.
    she's not the best, but inarguably on of the top vocalists of our generation.
    my only problem is some stylistic choices in her songs and some few times with her tone. but this is just my taste. thing is a lot hate on her and don't want to acknowledge that the hate is just their taste.

    • @Username39391
      @Username39391 3 года назад +1

      She is the best

    • @julianadams5311
      @julianadams5311 2 года назад

      @@Username39391 no she isn’t shut up

    • @Username39391
      @Username39391 2 года назад +1

      @@julianadams5311 she is and also i don't take orders from a loser

    • @julianadams5311
      @julianadams5311 2 года назад

      @@Username39391 get a life

    • @Username39391
      @Username39391 2 года назад

      @@julianadams5311 get a brain

  • @highelmo6018
    @highelmo6018 3 года назад +8

    Cam is the king of thumbnails change my mind

  • @thilananhvu8345
    @thilananhvu8345 3 года назад +8

    16:11 that's her best G#5

  • @eliletts5158
    @eliletts5158 3 года назад +1

    Great video! I think Ariana Grande might have one live C#3, but it is a really rare clip.
    This video was really well made and was really enjoyable to watch! Can't wait for the next CVSS!!!
    Excellent quality as always!!! 😉👍🔥💥

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +1

      Thanks!

    • @eliletts5158
      @eliletts5158 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE I forgot to mention that she has at least one exclaimed C#6 too... but it is still a well made vedio, literally 5 stars! And by the way, you are welcome! 😉👍🔥💥

  • @youssef55555
    @youssef55555 3 года назад +7

    When is the demi cvss coming ???

  • @GarageStudio7
    @GarageStudio7 3 года назад +27

    Definitely one of the best of this generation; I mean just take a look at the Billboard Hot 100, she's effortlessly outsinging over 96% of the singers on there right now.
    P.S. Please what does "ringing" specifically mean in this new system because if it's what I've known (what many call resonance) then she doesn't have it in most of her belts.
    In addition to this, what does "free" mean; I'm asking because quite a number of these notes had significant tension eg. Jaw tension, neck tension, tongue tension, shoved larynx but were counted as "free".
    Also, since a lot of Ariana's falsetto notes were counted as head voice, will Mariah, Leona, Christina Aguilera etc. head voice also be counted as head voice?

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +3

      Free means free of strain and unnecessary tension.

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +2

      I won't be using the term falsetto in my system because it feels unnecessary to differentiate (when most falsetto is going to be free anyways) so yes, falsetto will be called head voice for them as well! Also, ringing can be subtle in this system, it doesn't have to be booming like the famous resonant ones are. Free is explained at the beginning!

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +2

      Mariah is using head voice lol.

    • @GarageStudio7
      @GarageStudio7 3 года назад

      @@KajiVocals Yes she does but not always.

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад

      @@GarageStudio7 I don't agree.

  • @buterafirevocals8177
    @buterafirevocals8177 3 года назад

    is her rem Eb3 from oklahoma sweetener tour not at least free? she had full projection and power w it

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +2

      No. None of her Eb3's are free. She really didn't project, She just lowered her larynx and used a dark tone to where U can hear her but she doesn't project past G3

    • @buterafirevocals8177
      @buterafirevocals8177 3 года назад

      @@grandeflamesbutera3949 her E3’s in nasty and Eb3’s in just like magic are so good her lows are just getting better :)

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад

      @@buterafirevocals8177 U see the way U are spoiling the song for everyone because u listened to the leaks????? U could’ve used the Instagram Story where Ariana hits a clear ass E3 while Njomza was peeing and Ariana’s amazing E3’s in Sweetener, NTLTC and Blazed and her Eb3’s in SWU as examples but no U had to spoil the album. See how that isn’t ok???

    • @buterafirevocals8177
      @buterafirevocals8177 3 года назад +1

      @@grandeflamesbutera3949 ur so dramatic LMFAO its just music

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад

      @@buterafirevocals8177 I personally don't care but to other fans its more than disrespectful because U are ruining peoples experiences with the album

  • @hans_0121
    @hans_0121 3 года назад +5

    14:54 SHOOKT😳

  • @disappointing.
    @disappointing. 3 года назад +10

    She's the best vocalist singer artist ever and no one will ever be able to change my mind. it's truly a shame that so many people still doubt her abilities.
    amazing video💜

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +2

      Because she isn’t the best vocalists ever. I can name thousands of better vocalists

    • @disappointing.
      @disappointing. 3 года назад +4

      @@presidentpresident9200 her pronunciation is a stylistic choice and her normal voice is actually quite deep. she has a wide range and excellent technique that's why she can make her voice sound higher and can sing from the lowest to the highest notes effortlessly and so pleasantly.
      Im sure there are other incredible singers out there but for me she remains the best, have a good day💜

    • @23big23big
      @23big23big 10 месяцев назад +1

      no one is doubting ... lol . we know she's not !!! she is your typical screamer next door.

    • @helloworld17778
      @helloworld17778 10 месяцев назад

      @@disappointing. "her normal voice is actually quite deep" 🤣 arianators are funny

  • @rioferdinand1351
    @rioferdinand1351 3 года назад +17

    She has one of the best tone ever, I think if she has a better enunciation, that would be way better for her too, but I guess it's her stylistic choice

  • @bartolomemusic
    @bartolomemusic 3 года назад +2

    "Now hold on to your ponytails" lol

  • @lookmyrolls6522
    @lookmyrolls6522 3 года назад +4

    Camden you should do a cover of be my baby by Ariana Grande 👍😊

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад

      I wish I could but that’s out of my league!

    • @jevonchan2297
      @jevonchan2297 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE the Bb5 words are still mystery

    • @lookmyrolls6522
      @lookmyrolls6522 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE oh okay 😁! Don't worry you still have a decent singing voice. Maybe you can change the key of the song to a comfortable arrangement perhaps or something?

  • @ihsanseptian8533
    @ihsanseptian8533 3 года назад +4

    pls next do mariahs cvss, would love to see it

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад

      When someone competes a complete I will!

    • @user-eh1cs3sv5h
      @user-eh1cs3sv5h 3 года назад

      I remembered somebody did one months ago but cant seem to find it now

    • @ihsanseptian8533
      @ihsanseptian8533 3 года назад

      @@user-eh1cs3sv5h i also watched that lol, but this one it said the new cvss, lets just wait😀

  • @lalisamanoban9359
    @lalisamanoban9359 3 года назад +15

    her voice was the most controversial one among the whole vocal industry, saying she's straining above B4. now, she's getting the recognition. those haters might disagree, but cvss is the by far the most accurate vocal ranking system there is. if u disagree in this video, make ur own vocal ranking system.

    • @lalisamanoban9359
      @lalisamanoban9359 3 года назад +3

      @Spotify Stan ur right. that's the logic

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +10

      @Spotify Stan Strain is genuinely an extreme amount of constriction causing either a) heavy discomfort b) pain. She is sometimes tense but anywhere near strain.

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +1

      Thank you!

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +1

      @Aaa Bbb Hello Ublimals or Nessaj. A new account I see.

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +1

      @Aaa Bbb I’m starting to think y’all are the same person. Both changing sides like crazy too. No morals or views of your own. Only drama.

  • @uzurutonamaki6664
    @uzurutonamaki6664 Год назад

    whats the tittle at 12:16?

  • @badondorkhongwar4254
    @badondorkhongwar4254 3 года назад +3

    She is the best alongside mariah,camila ,demi,tori kelly,kelly clarkson,celine😊

  • @ThePianoguy89
    @ThePianoguy89 3 года назад +20

    I can't wait for this! Watch the fools say she strains above B4 and she has no head voice.

    • @lalisamanoban9359
      @lalisamanoban9359 3 года назад

      @Nessaj wait is that a bad thing ?

    • @ThePianoguy89
      @ThePianoguy89 3 года назад +8

      @Nessaj Her output is not incredibly huge but it doesn't need to be. She's a higher and lighter soprano. The natural weight of her voice isn't going to be huge but the output she has is good enough for her vocal anatomy.

    • @ThePianoguy89
      @ThePianoguy89 3 года назад +4

      @Nessaj Melba Moore is a bigger and fuller soprano. She's a Full-Lyric and has a FULL timbre. She's going to sound bigger than her naturally. There's nothing wrong with having a small voice. Ariana can still project her voice well. Her voice actually blossoms the higher she goes because she has a HIGH tessitura. She's not going to have as much density in the G#4-C#5 area because she's a light-lyric soprano. Her voice actually picks up in volume very high.

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +1

      @@lalisamanoban9359 Not really. If ariana was still a broadway vocalist then yes it would be bad but she isn't

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +9

      @@ThePianoguy89 Melba actually was pretty much the same kind of soprano as Ariana in the 70s and 80s. Her voice got larger later on.

  • @Dragontail-ft9kq
    @Dragontail-ft9kq 3 года назад

    Hello thank you for the great video!
    Sorry if you have already seen this or if this is the wrong place but I think Barbra has an underbelt at E4
    ruclips.net/video/rJKEGP7iFxA/видео.html
    (The E4 I think is an underbelt appears in a few seconds.
    I'm very sorry if this has already been mentioned or doesn't count as a belt however.

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад

      Thank you so much! I'll see if I can add it in!

  • @emanuelmarasigan5824
    @emanuelmarasigan5824 3 года назад +2

    I knew that there something with her technique in the honeymoon ave tour, I definitley evolved with Ariana Technique but with lower octave of range, but listening to my technique and ariana's in honeymoon ave tour.
    I can here my voice ringing. Well I think that the change on my voice is also because of puberty but adopting to ariana's technique is crazy.
    But im happy that Ariana is my MAIN vocal influence and adopted her technique / singing styles.
    Fun fact, sometimes i try to sing along to ariana and I will add some high notes in which She also did the same times as me, and i havent listen to that clip yet.

  • @Number-ek1hf
    @Number-ek1hf 3 года назад +28

    She definitely isn’t the best in the world (like the greats: Whitney, Lara, Barbra, Patti, Beyonce, Mariah, Karen Clark Sheard just to name a few) but she is an amazing vocalist with incredible ease in the chest range (in terms of reaching the notes)

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад

      Karen’s crazy

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +8

      @@pebbie363 I actually think Patti has a chance of scoring more than both of them. Her entire range is controlled.

    • @pebbie363
      @pebbie363 3 года назад

      @@KajiVocals her headvoice alone drowns both of them lol

    • @pebbie363
      @pebbie363 3 года назад +8

      But her tone... just no. I got headaches while listening to her

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад

      @@presidentpresident9200 Another account? How many do you have?

  • @bclislife
    @bclislife 3 года назад +1

    Can you put what your terms mean in the description of your video instead of just at the beginning? I wanna be able to watch and read them at the same time

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад

      Sure!

    • @bclislife
      @bclislife 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE thanks! And great video by the way! I love Ariana

  • @joy7900
    @joy7900 3 года назад +6

    Ariana the next vocal Queen 👑

    • @joy7900
      @joy7900 3 года назад

      @Nessaj sss🤫

    • @siem9329
      @siem9329 3 года назад

      @Nessaj there are tons of great vocalists nowadays, it just comes down on songs.

    • @lucaslamadrid8227
      @lucaslamadrid8227 3 года назад

      @Nessaj if you're a sad hater jus say that love

  • @Marco-el2he
    @Marco-el2he 3 года назад +8

    Arianas belts are really pretty impressive and easy for her but she lacks resonance comparing her to other belters like Sohyang for example. Still, really good technique in those

    • @thilananhvu8345
      @thilananhvu8345 3 года назад +2

      Huh? Screamhyang? Her voice is so bland 🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢 squeezed and coreless

    • @Marco-el2he
      @Marco-el2he 3 года назад +1

      @@thilananhvu8345 lmao you may not like her tone but you’re delusional if you cant acknowledge that her technique is superb

    • @thilananhvu8345
      @thilananhvu8345 3 года назад +2

      @@Marco-el2he Underdeveloped chest voice = no foundation = improper technique

    • @kevindurbin7412
      @kevindurbin7412 3 года назад +1

      @@thilananhvu8345 not improper technique, improper development

    • @kevindurbin7412
      @kevindurbin7412 3 года назад +2

      @Penny Perry for operatic standards.

  • @SonicDeeHedgehog
    @SonicDeeHedgehog 2 года назад +1

    Wasn't Lara above Barbra in the last video?

  • @ZakUrtubey
    @ZakUrtubey Год назад

    Hi could u update this or at least make a video of her perfomances after 2019? Because she improves her whistle register and she uses more rasp.

  • @_jusvibe
    @_jusvibe 2 года назад +3

    It’s funny how her G5’s & G#5’s are better than her f#5’s😭truly her golden notes

  • @joy7900
    @joy7900 3 года назад +3

    CVSS for Morisette plss🙏

  • @Kristoff2005
    @Kristoff2005 3 года назад

    Wait, growls aren't the only vocal effects she's done. She's done vocal breaks before in I'm Every Woman from the video from 2008(?), though she isn't really too good at it either.
    You can use Mariah as a baseline for vocal breaks, she's done some great ones and she's probably one of the best users of it out there.

  • @11mory11
    @11mory11 3 года назад +1

    Is the G5's in give it up with liz grounded ?

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +1

      No I’d call them free because the highest I’ve seen Ariana actually ground a high note was F#5 in 2013

    • @11mory11
      @11mory11 3 года назад

      @@grandeflamesbutera3949 okay thanks 🤍

  • @runor
    @runor 3 года назад +5

    I don't get why this video has dislikes. Camden obviously put a lot of work into this. This vid contains rare clips and numerous vocal terms I never knew about. I love this vid and it has helped me a lot❤😋
    Y'all dislikers hating is on another level🤦‍♂️👎

  • @codywalsh2075
    @codywalsh2075 3 года назад +3

    Not every single one of y'all acting like y'all are vocal coaches 😭🤣 youtube vocal coaches are the woooorst.

  • @vjaoso2053
    @vjaoso2053 3 года назад

    Could u do a video like this about Demi Lovato?
    Awesome video tho, congrats! Positions is coming

  • @dededejereme2284
    @dededejereme2284 3 года назад

    Beautifull clear voice.. i love her tone ... Si After arianna .. whtney Houston? Dion? For me. Houston IS Queen.. in Live concert. Her voice IS ring power. 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇

  • @vocallover2197
    @vocallover2197 3 года назад +12

    I’m confused on why “ringing, grounded and free” are vocal highlights of someone’s voice to be considered into a vocal range video....especially one where technique is considered. Your definitions of grounded and ringing seem like knock off definitions for support and resonance. Some notes listed here for ringing for example are not resonant because her tongue sounds like it’s blocking her notes or she does not have enough space to allow the sound to escape, not saying that you were listing it as resonant though because you clearly had it listed as ringing but why is the ringing of her voice even important if it’s not resonance. Vice versa with grounded she has a pretty good home base for technique probably because of her broadway background but a lot of notes listed for grounded are not supported and again you clearly listed them as what they are “grounded and ringing” not “supported or resonant” so i can’t compare but i guess my question is why are we short coming vocal traits of vocalist and minimizing it to knock off terminology’s to boost there appearance vocally to people ?

    • @drewm.2790
      @drewm.2790 3 года назад +16

      Because support and resonance are heavily misused terms. Support and resonance are not on or off things it’s a spectrum

    • @vocallover2197
      @vocallover2197 3 года назад +1

      @@drewm.2790 Understood, but how does that answer my question exactly ?

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +14

      Support - breath management technique. Ring/resonance - a specific acoustic coupling which is not even audible on recordings unless your ears are trained to hear those overtones (Ariana doesn't do this nor 99% of contemporary singers do). Grounded - core to the sound. I do not really agree with all the terms he used here but it is still way more correct than what the voodoo side of the vocal community is spewing.

    • @vocallover2197
      @vocallover2197 3 года назад +2

      @@KajiVocals but support is not just a breath management technique when talking about a “supported note” it means proper breath is being used to support the note where the air does the work for you to produce the note vs the muscles in your throat which would produce strain so a lot of notes listed here as “free” or “grounded” can be free because they are strainless and can be grounded because of the space used to allow the note to escape but are not supported because proper air is not being used from the diaphragm to bring the notes up so it poses my question again why are “grounded, ringing and free” even a thing? When talking about technique most people know notes higher and lower all need more space and support not grounding lol and we all know that a properly placed note can produce a ringing sound but many can produce a ringing sound just alone by the type of voice that they have but that does not mean there placement is on to produce pure resonance just as some vocalist can support their notes but not have any resonance.

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +6

      @@vocallover2197 Um did u word vomit or something???? U literally contradicted yourself like 3 times in that one paragraph

  • @aintnootherfan
    @aintnootherfan 3 года назад +15

    I've recently made a 20+ minutes video and I thought it had been a nightmare, yet you make 40+ minutes videos, major respect! So much time and work that goes into this!
    But I don't agree with the belting part, I think it's inaccurate because if I'm not mistaken Ariana got a very similar score to Lara and Barbra which is such a stretch in my opinion.
    People think that those who are sceptical about Ariana's support and resonance make her technical prowess underrated, but in fact overrating Ariana downplays legends like Barbra and Lara.
    Ariana is such an impressive vocalist, I don't need to convince anyone about that but I think B4/C5 with some C#5's is it for her, for now.
    Even with her ease, she's nowhere near to executing her belts like Babra and Lara do.
    There's something about her placement that is just not right, the sound is spread and airy instead of embodied and focused. like 8:11 she sounds so pretty but this ain't it, this is great though 9:15
    9:23 again, so pretty and sounds easy but it ain't it, also the audio quality isn't the best and there's a lot of reverb on the mic which is also often the case with her tour performances
    9:39 and around D5 she simply starts getting tense, 10:17, 11:18, 12:01 and more, same
    Ariana is a vocal force, no doubt, whose consistency and resilience is truly admirable but let's not put her on a pedestal she shouldn't be put on
    But maybe her high score is due to the update of the system and the introduction of new terms, I don't know
    anyway, you know I have tremendous respect for you and my opinion on Ariana doesn't change that

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +10

      I'm just gonna say this. If she had any real vocal problems why hasn't her voice declined in the 20 years she has been singing especially when she started her career on Broadway????? Just seems like U are throwing things together until it sticks. Placement is a mental image. Also Tension doesn't stop support. Its literally been proven by thousands of teachings of Vocal Pedagogy and by Voice Teachers across the world

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад

      @Nessaj Wasn't even talking about technique tho so pls hush

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +18

      I’d like you to actually elaborate on what type of tension you’re hearing. And be specific. And you liking Barbra and Lara more is purely subjective (I like them more too - especially Barbra; Lara’s chest voice is very underdeveloped).

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад

      @@KajiVocals Period Kaji!!!!!!

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +13

      @Nessaj Different style, approach, genre... I know a lot of people who don’t enjoy Barbra’s sound. It is subjective. You can get a similar output to Barbra (and larger actually) with a light sound. Not saying Ariana does that. But it can be done.
      And there are plenty of vocalists out there with a better belting technique than Barbra. Well, there were. You won’t find then now.
      Relating to their voice types. Barbra has a naturally richer and darker voice than her. Not by a lot, but there is still some difference. And light-lyric isn’t an actual classification 😉

  • @butterflyriah2930
    @butterflyriah2930 3 года назад +2

    Yuh

    • @pebbie363
      @pebbie363 3 года назад

      Wow a "yuh" from a lamb triggered you huh?

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад

      @@pebbie363 they’re a troll, it’s analytical vocal coach

  •  3 года назад +1

    Just finished the video and I couldn't be more satisfied...the system is currently as perfect as it could be, and your dedication and passion are unmatched. Thank you for always staying unbiased and being so careful and humble. Btw what about Demi's CVSS? How far is it on the priorities list? I'm so anxious ;-;

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад

      Awwww thank you!! Nobody has created a template for her yet so I haven’t gotten around to making it myself when others are waiting to be edited :(

    • @siem9329
      @siem9329 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE wish you could re-upload Morissette or make one for her again since there are some changes in the CVSS. Regardless, we can wait. Take your time and thank you for the efforts. Btw, I am nervous for Ariana as well as for Morissette because the legend stans will come for them if they score higher.

  • @notyourdaddy2148
    @notyourdaddy2148 3 года назад +8

    if you an ariana grande stan, just say that but don’t go around just saying any damn thing as if it were an actual fact lmao 😭

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад +2

      It is a fact and the truth

    • @CamdenE
      @CamdenE  3 года назад +8

      Was that directed at me? I proved all my claims in the video :)

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE Its directed at u and every Arianator

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад

      @@CamdenE What can u expect from a Ariana hater

    • @notyourdaddy2148
      @notyourdaddy2148 3 года назад +3

      lol im actually a really big fan of ariana’s music and voice, but the main reason why she is regarded as a good vocalist is because of her tone, ease, agility, and pitch precession which are great things to process as vocalist but she’s not the best when it comes to having a healthy technique and engaging with her diaphragm consistently while singing in all or even one register. she also does not resonate a lot. however, she’s definitely making improvements! it would still be very crazy to say ariana is one of the best vocalist in the world or even of this generation when we have actually vocal technicians like jojo, tori kelly, halle bailey, or even tinahse and fuck it even miley could give her a run for her money when we talking about technique. she’s definitely my favorite out of all of them though.

  • @philipcohen958
    @philipcohen958 3 года назад +7

    The definition of singing is : Recitation of words in a melodic manner. Ariana fails at the very definition of singing, because she swallows the actual words. Nice job on the video though (some categories are messed up but anyways), she is technically good as per modern pop standard and can sing live consistently. Props to her for that.

    • @user-gk4bl9nz8f
      @user-gk4bl9nz8f 3 года назад +3

      @President Phantom Please listen to anyone in the radio and mention anyone that sounds remotely as radio friendly and good. Please go ahead because I am sick of all of you.

    • @jomarvazquez2815
      @jomarvazquez2815 3 года назад +3

      She does it as a style choice. There are plenty of videos showing she knows how to do it. It’s her style. There’s a difference between not being able to do it and style

    • @user-gk4bl9nz8f
      @user-gk4bl9nz8f 3 года назад

      @President Phantom No? lol range has nothing to do with a vocalists quality

    • @user-gk4bl9nz8f
      @user-gk4bl9nz8f 3 года назад

      @President Phantom are you trying to mock the video? Cause that's not only childish, it makes you look like a complete buffoon.

    • @jomarvazquez2815
      @jomarvazquez2815 3 года назад +3

      @President Phantom it’s not a flaw tho. She sings broadway song with perfectly worded. She does it as a style choice

  • @watchdotcom7786
    @watchdotcom7786 3 года назад +1

    Whats song is 37:19

  • @patrikbarine_c1246
    @patrikbarine_c1246 3 года назад

    Which one were head voice and falsetto?

  • @davidlaughs3144
    @davidlaughs3144 3 года назад +12

    Yes , she is the best vocalist

    • @nigelslatcher8761
      @nigelslatcher8761 3 года назад

      Who.🍩

    • @samishell8613
      @samishell8613 3 года назад +10

      @@nigelslatcher8761 queen ariana grande, and if you don't know her it's because you live on a rock, envy is noticeable for miles because you know you don't sing well and you never will

    • @sithikagardi6181
      @sithikagardi6181 3 года назад +1

      I dont think shes rhe best vocalist ever , at all, but i do love her voice and music 💜

    • @kataanga5608
      @kataanga5608 3 года назад

      she's really not, she's awesome but far from being the best

    • @samishell8613
      @samishell8613 3 года назад +1

      @@kataanga5608 personally, for me it is the best, there are very good artists like mariah, demi, sia, jessie, jojo and perry, but the problem is that it tires me to hear their voices, I don't know why, it only bothers me with the minutes, with Ariana it is different, his tone, his voice does not tire me, rather I like to listen more, something similar with tori kelly that for me would be the second. It's just a matter of taste, for you there are better ones. but for me and other people she is the best.

  • @sypax670
    @sypax670 3 года назад +7

    The haters are coming

    • @nigelslatcher8761
      @nigelslatcher8761 3 года назад

      🍩👍

    • @thilananhvu8345
      @thilananhvu8345 3 года назад

      cz they don't agree with you, right? I haven't talked about you telling me to buy a pair of ears just bcz I disagree with you.

    • @sypax670
      @sypax670 3 года назад

      @@thilananhvu8345 🙃

    • @_wut3381
      @_wut3381 3 года назад

      @@nigelslatcher8761 there

  • @allthingspage1498
    @allthingspage1498 3 года назад

    some of the break free F5s are actually grounded, the sweetener tour ones.

    • @KajiVocals
      @KajiVocals 3 года назад +3

      I wouldn't call many of her notes past Eb grounded. Generally her F#s in the Way earlier on (2013ish) were pretty grounded tho.

    • @grandeflamesbutera3949
      @grandeflamesbutera3949 3 года назад

      @@KajiVocals Yeah.

    • @allthingspage1498
      @allthingspage1498 3 года назад

      @@KajiVocals i would def call everything below E5/F5 grounded.