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To put it in perspective I own the Garmin G80 which is more of a golf GPS for playing golf and has 42,000 preloaded courses around the world. Fantastic. Just turn up, turn it on and play. But it also has a launch monitor that measures club head speed, ball speed, smash factor, carry distance, total distance etc. And you can play virtual golf on any of the 42,000 courses around the world. It's very unrealistic as it doesn't take into account ball direction, just distance. But prior to getting the Garmin R10 the G80 provided me and my buddies with a lot of entertainment and fun and much more stimulating range sessions than we had before just bashing balls. Now of course the G80 doesn't get used as a launch monitor anymore (still a superb GPS for playing golf) as the R10 is far superior and offers real virtual golf as well as enhanced shot measurements etc but it just shows how far we have come. I personally have Awesome Golf and love it for all the same reasons highlighted in your video David but even the Garmin Golf App, with all it's supposed limitations, offers a much enhanced golf experience to the G80 which I thought was pretty cool just a year ago. I think we are incredibly lucky to get access to such a great golf simulator/ launch monitor at this price point.
Positive rant over! Lol 😁
100% agree with you mate! Very well said 😁
I've had my R10 for a couple months(thanks to your help) and I've used both trials with the original plan to stay with the garmin golf app mostly due to the low cost. But I completely agree with you on why you choose awesome golf. The interface is better, the data is tracked and displayed better and at a glance I know all the crucial details of my shots. The reason I got this was to self train and the coaching section alone is worth the price. Thanks for making a video that highlights all the reasons I keep opening up awesome golf 👍cheers!
Thank you mate 😁
Couldn't agree more.
I ended up using the E6 because it comes with free courses and i already had an ipad to use.
@@dontpanic716 the free E6 setup is fantastic.
Best breakdown comparison out there.
As to those Rouge Pros; I'm yet to fit a player into them but when i want to mess around on the Forsight, those bad girls on the Rifle 6.5 are something special.
Thanks 🙏 great device
Had awesome golf for a week now and loving it. Perfect for a home simulator. Got it for £299 as well. For lifetime access that’s pretty good value imo
Well done mate! I think it’s the best approved R10 software for sure
Hi, I'm thinking of getting awesome golf too. Do they have sales on to get it for £299?.Cheers
@@stukatchoo6784 not sure mate. That was the price after I did the free trial
I love awesome golf but please tell them to allow you save coaching and or driving range sessions so your data can be easily accessed for review
It’s probably the biggest request so hopefully they get that done in an update
This is the reason I won’t get it. My only usage is at the range and like to review my range sessions months after to see improvement or trends. Garmin could be better for my use case, but awesome doesn’t meet it at all.
Not sure if they’ve fixed it yet, but you could take screenshots for now?
Awesome golf is an excellent app. Not least you have shown us subscribers here this. But many of us now use the Garmin app in combination with R10 analytic's PC app. There is a reason for this. Maybe you should also find out why. 😀
I’m sure the Garmin Pc Analytics is good but like I mentioned in the video I’m just never going to do that. To coach myself I like to see that information on the run in a session so that I can adjust and go again etc. I don’t want to have to finish a session then go back to a PC sand then analyse the data before coming back to the net. Want to do this on the fly in the app 😁
Great video David. I just got the r10 last week and it was your videos that convinced. Also put the Spornia net on my radar so cheers for that. I like the looks of Awesome Golf but for me I need data easily accessible when I'm sitting on the couch after a range session. Prefer the garmin app for that reason. If Garmin could sync club averages to the Golf Bag section it would be even better.
Hopefully that will come in future updates. For now you can download the session stats and averages like that online from the Garmin golf app
I just bought the lifetime upgrade and think the data is fantastic. I’m not a one for simulators as I don’t have the facilities at home and have to use my clubs outdoor range. But the one thing I would want above all the gimic games that I won’t use is session data on the range and coaching sections to be able to save and look and analyse when I get home.
This is a big disappointment considering all the parameters you get and just to be told to screen shot to keep the data to view is very poor. I think to be able to save the data is just as important as all the data that goes with this app. 22:34
@@ianmarshall3565 Looks like they have listened. You can now save and review range sessions. This might move me over to AG from the Garmin App.
Thanks for another great video David! I liked Awesome Golf, but I'm not paying their premium for lifetime access. What's worse is charging $200 USD for the privilege to pay a monthly subscription. In light of that, I have a couple questions. Are you modifying the Garmin Golf app parameters at all now to give you accurate numbers or leave it at default setup? Also, I'm hitting into a net with a fence behind it from about 8 feet away, should I put up a sheet or anything over the net to get more accurate numbers or should I be okay?
Hey mate, I’m using the local weather settings in the Garmin Golf App. In regards to the net you really want to have at least 9 feet of ball flight and yes a solid sheet is best
With me AG makes everything very straight and adds distance. Be it into the net outside at 7ft away or at the range using range balls. Ball can go 40 yards of line and AG will have it on the fairway.
I am using normal balls. Will see if RCT makes a difference.
RCT balls help 😁
Thanks for the video David. I have the same setup at home. Just bought the r10 with the spornia net. Love them both. Also just purchased the awesome golf app. Could not agree more with you. Love the numbers/look/and features. Maybe you could do a video that describes some of the swing stats like swing path,attack angle etc? Would like to know more about that. Thanks and really enjoy the content.
Thanks Rob, yes a few people have asked that question. Will get into that video 😁
Good video David. Intro was on point.
Not sure if you’ve done a video on it but where exactly is your projector mounted in your garage?
Thank you mate, I have the projector mounted to the roof but you can check out the full sim build video here ruclips.net/video/xAucOzGXz10/видео.html
love your videos David ! one thing to consider and is a real pain in the butt is compatibility of these apps. Awesome golf is ipad only and has to be an ipad with wifi and 4g. Deal breaker for many. No android at all another deal breaker for many.
Awesome golf is on android now
The question becomes whether the software cost is worth the minor differences (since the garmin golf range stuff is free).
I think it depends what you consider minor differences. That will be different for each person. For me, the coaching section is a major difference so I use that a lot
I used Awesome golf as a trial. Like the fact that it calculates Descent Angle (R10 doesnt) but one major issue. Using it on a smartphone requires reading glasses. Not practical for me to take a tablet to the local driving range. And I do like Excel as well. :-) Beats taking screenshots for me.
You can just use the standard open range in your phone. That should be a better help 😁👍🏼
David in this video, you were running both the Garmin Range app and the Awesome Golf app at the same time.
At the start of the session, just log in to both? I only ask is because while GA can export swing data, AG cannot. I can do immediate comp and delete from GA those outlying results.
Thank you
Awesome golf can. It has all of the data stored in the community app I believe then you export your sessions from there
David, thank you for the immediate response. Love your videos!
At the end awesome golf looks great, however I'm reading it has only a few golf courses...any suggestions on what do to play a Bunch of courses without spending a fortune?
I thought the home tee hero having lots of courses would be better... I was wrong i reckon
Depends what you’re using it for. If for practise and improvement then awesome golf is amazing and you can still play their courses
I use the R10 on the actual range. I dont give a fig if I can see the app shot shape, I can see it in real life but that means I can leave it on the data screen the whole time and really understand what the factors were in every golf shot.
It’s perfect for that
Just to make sure I understood, neither holds an advantage when I comes to distances or ball flight? The only advantage to Awesome Golf is the features within? Thanks for making this video David!
Yeah the features of awesome golf make a big difference so that’s why I personally use it
Thank you for your videos. You primarily use the R10 in your home simulator. However, since I don't have a home simulator, I can only use it at the driving range. In my opinion, it is not very convenient to use the Awesome Golf app on a cell phone while at the driving range. On the other hand, the Garmin Golf app works well on a phone and is optimized for that.
Overall, I prefer the Awesome Golf software, but it requires me to bring my iPad to the range. Additionally, it needs internet connection, so I have to connect my iPad to my iPhone's hotspot, making the process quite complicated.
A significant advantage of the Garmin app is the ability to export and analyze range data using R10 Analytics. When I use Awesome Golf before a round, all the data is lost.
I'm like you and mainly use it at the range but I had no problem at all using Awesome Golf on my phone. No different to using the Garmin Golf App in my experience. I switched from the android phone to iPad because being an older model the battery would be just about dead after one range session. I now use an iPad as android tablets don't work and also for the added benefit of free access to E6 which is well worth it . For internet access I just tether it to my android phone. Nothing particularly complicated about it and takes about an extra 30 seconds to a minute of setup time. 🤷♂️
You gotta use whatever works best for you 😁 I thought all of the apps required a connection but I haven’t tried using the Garmin app in a while
That’s such a hard trade off for me. Better data while using the app but none afterwards!
Dave, I get what you’re saying about Garmin making an open platform for others to develop apps for, instead of locking you in to their software only. Good on them. But I have a different view: I didn’t buy an R10 so that I can spend more money on extra software. Garmin should provide better software! And, as many people have reported (me included) the distances on Garmin software do read short. Every one of your shots on this video was 3-5 metres shorter than it was on Awesome Golf. So, I say to Garmin “lift your game, it needs to be better”. There is no criticism of you here; as a Garmin ambassador hats off to you for highlighting its deficiencies, and I hope you will continue to do so. But I also hope that you are lobbying them to improve it!
Cheers mate
Checkout my video of “Things that Must Change” 😁👍🏼
@@davidmaxfieldgolf watched it again. I’ve got the levelling base you suggested. I’ve got the right distances from R10 to me, and then from me to net. I’m also a Garmin golf watch user with the CT10 tabs on the top of my grips, so I’m fully invested in Garmin. I guess I have just been very disappointed at the lack of development on the app & stats from rounds using the watch. So I’m hoping it’s not the same on the R10
I don’t see $499.99 of value there for me. That’s not a small fee.
Love your videos!!!
Depends on how you look at it and what you value. Everyone will be different. For me the coaching section alone is worth that but that aside, what I didn’t get time to do here is all of the other things that awesome golf has such as the Knocking down the buildings and sinking the boats games that my kids absolutely love. It’s gets them into the game of golf whilst having fun at the same time 😁
Agree. If they dripped their fees by 50% , they would cover the market,and would make so much more money. A lot of people wouldn't think hard about it and would purchase ASAP if the lifetime membership was 50% cheaper
I agree. I just started using Awesome Golf after starting with Garmin app.
Yah you definitely got away with that birdie 😂 on those 3 wholes you played
Yeah I did 😂 short tees haha
Hi Dave,
one point which I had with Home Tee Hero a few times is that the game was frozen. Maybe it is because of our poor internet on the range. Nevertheless, I had it never with Awesome. Awesome onces lost connection during playing a course. But after I view second I could continue to play. With Home Tee Hero the light was red and the game was gone.
Interesting mate. Thanks for pointing that out 😁
Love your videos. Will Awesome golf give you carry distances?
Absolutely 👍🏼
Great comparison. Will Awesome Golf show the low point with the R10?
Thank you and not sure 🤔 would be good.
David quick question, got foil on my balls picks up most of the time. In awesome golf does it do an italic equivalent to Garmin app.
I don’t think so. Awesome golf will do that with the MLM2PRO but I don’t believe it does with the Garmin r10
Great videos mate. I'm just about to buy the R10 approach for myself and young fellow to have in the garage. We are both pretty high handicappers and our biggest focus at the moment is swing path and club face. Ideally I want to use the Garmin app as this cheaper but after watching your videos believe it's not as good as awesome golf. Do you have any opinion or stats or would you ever do a video comparing these two stats we want to focus on between the two different apps? Cheers mate
Hey mate. I did a few videos comparing these side by side a while ago and there are differences. The Garmin golf app is getting much better though which is encouraging but just for me, awesome golf is the best app for the r10
Thanks for getting back to me. I have seen your videos showing carry distance and deviation difference and other stats between the two apps but couldn't find one showing differences between club path and club face? If you don't mind can you copy the link for me please? I've had a pretty decent look. Cheers mate
Hey, do you have a comparison of the garmin r10 with awesome golf vs. a e.g. trackman or gc? Would be interesting how accurate r10 with AG is compared to a "high end" unit.
There’s a comparison with GC Quad 😊
Here in the states there are a lot of places now that offer indoor Trackman simulators. I can go there for around $45/hour and get all my club distances and feedback on stats. I can calibrate my Garmin R10 to simulate what Trackman data gives me. I can go there at least 6 times for the price of Awesome Golf but don't see the need with my R10. If you want more interactive games etc. then I can see Awesome being your thing. I'm only interested in how far I hit each club for gapping. I prefer playing live golf.
Yeah, and many people will be like you and prefer that also. I think that's where Garmin has really got it right in giving people options :)
What's the best app for practicing really short chips? On Garmin Golf Crooked Creek or Green Valley, there aren't any greens in really short range.. 30m etc
Yeah in the awesome golf app they have an approach section with multiple short chipping options
Great.. Will give awesome golf a go👍 thnaks!
@@dkzxcv you’ll love it mate
David, I am at 11 foot to screen, 6 to the Garmin. Very good read of curve and distance. One issue, I set it for 6 foot hit done, when I come back it has reset to 7 foot again?? I use the e6 connection to the software not to be named, lol but it is Garmin issue. Any ideas?
Think 7 foot may be the minimum requirement? So it defaults to that
I adjust it doesn’t seem to stay, I will look deeper. Only makes sense for the adjuster to adjust, lol
Back swing speed would make a nice slider, to not miss the short ones, hard to change 45 year timing.
Hi David. I think the awesome golf app is terrible when it comes to explaining the app.
I’ve seen you say “I’m going to delete that shot” for whatever reason
I cannot figure out how to do that. Would you mind explaining?
You push the garbage bin in the coaching section, can’t delete shots on the normal range
@@davidmaxfieldgolf Thanks David! Love your videos. They are very informative.
@@ednewton271 Thanks mate, appreciate that 😊
David I am not a fan of Awesome myself. Made a video with my reasons!
Promises not fulfilled was what I kept hearing about new courses and save features!
It takes a very long time to develop courses through the dev teams. It’s never a 2 week turnaround thing,
The ones that told me said were told first of last year, so waiting on them to figure it out.
I use the GSPRO and added the shot and club info to it. I love to play courses, that’s why I chose it variety and not a chasing numbers guy!
Good video. Does the garmin golf app still require playing around with the temperature and humidity settings, etc ? Or have they finally made it relatively accurate to awesome golf ?
It’s pretty close now 😊
@David Maxfield Golf thanks mate ! See u on links hope island
@@davidmaxfieldgolf Hello!, great videos. I am new to R10. Just got it a few days ago. I still need to adjust elevation to offset a 10-15% short yardages I see in the driving range. I checked software release and I have 4.3. Distances and internet comments are driving me crazy! Am i missing something?.I have not tried awesome golf yet. Does awesome golf allow shot boost to try to use it with sci-core golf balls at night in my home sim?
Might be a stupid question, but do you need wifi to run the R10 with the likes of E6 or Awesome golf?
Or will run fine on phone/tablet via Bluetooth?
Either wifi or tether your phone
How did you get the Garmin app to go landscape and fill the screen? Thanks!
Swipe down, click screen monitoring, swipe back up in the driving range, click the landscape icon on bottom right of screen
How often do you crack golf balls? I find I go through at least one a week. I even try to switch up every few hits.
I’ve never cracked one in the 24/7 golf sim
I crack about 1 a week. Hitting Chromesofts
@@patrickwire4282 stop hitting it so hard LOL 😂
David,
How are you getting a full screen with the garmin app on your iPad? Mine is basically like it’s on my phone and not my ipad
Nevermind- got it
👍🏼👍🏼😁
What you don’t address though is the price difference. It didn’t matter to you (as you got it free) but $399 for Awesome golf ain’t exactly cheap (at all). Does it’s difference justify $399? What if Awesome Golf was $899 or $1299? Does the app justify the price differences?
It’s pretty cheap considering what the app offers and that it’s only a once off payment
As a Garmin Ambassador, please tell Garmin to fix their golf app! They should (1) add a coaching view, (2) reduce the sensitivity to the distance away from the ball and screen....the fact that Awesome Golf is somewhat more accurate in places is proof that it can be done, and (3) fix the switching from Horizontal to Vertical orientations on an ipad as it's flakey in their app. Those 3 changes and I'd be happy.
Edit: Please also share with Awesome Golf team that for the price they're charging they need better/real courses. And that they should strike the same deal that the E6 guys did with Garmin. We get a 5 course pack with E6 for free; they should do an Awesome Golf coaching view for free with Garmin R10's. They could then upsell for say storing the data, courses, etc.
It’s can be done. I terms of the simulator software the Garmin golf app is still very new. They’ll improve on it constantly
Home tee hero would be 10x better if they fixed the POV on landscape mode. the zoom in is terrible, and i cast my ipad to a tv. Also on HTH there isnt really backspin, the ball doesnt one hop stop or even spin back on full wedge shots. I also feel like the garmin app will randomly slice my ball. That being said, ive been having tons of fun just using the free version of E6. I am mostly using this for winter since i cant play so 5 courses is fine. Havent tried awesome golf yet, dont know if i want to pay that price for just a winter practice and hit around.
If virtual golf is your preference then e6 has the 18 hole courses but if you want to work on your game and get better then awesome golf is far better
@@davidmaxfieldgolf mostly virtual golf at this point. something to entertain. I dont get too deep into the numbers and E6 seems to provide a good amount of what i need. carry, total, spin, deviation, launch angle. my garage where is set up has a low ceiling I can only hit irons. When that changes and i can hit my whole bag i may opt for more of the coaching side.
@@jeffserbin8216 Do you find it to be pretty accurate in e6? I'm leaning between the R10 and using the free version of E6, or getting the new Rapsodo MLM2pro, but their software costs $200 a year and it doesn't come with e6.
@@Jord_45 I love the R10 and the E6 software "feels" accurate. I know how far I hit the ball and when its going left or right or short and it matches my expectations about 98%. I have not yet compared it to a better launch monitor. My coach has a trackman and next time I go for a lesson I am going to bring it to compare the accuracy. If I were in the market right now I would honestly wait for a few more reviews on the new MLM2pro and comparisons. I would probably still lean towards the R10 though. But the one thing I would wish for that the MLM2pro has is the built in camera to watch your swing back. It can be a little clunky to get the video to work with R10.
awesome golf is good but it’s not gspro, gspro is a long way infront
I’ve never used it. Bug bear with me about GSpro is that it’s not an approved Garmin App. So that’s my only reasoning
i hear that david, but approved or not means nothing. Just can’t compare the graphics
@@clints8888 I don’t disagree, the only thing I caution people on is that they need to be aware that they could be investing in something that may not work if an update comes through
I use GS Pro and Garmin and NOT Awesome Golf. Solely on Protest at the pricing issues into the UK. Awesome Golf to DOWNLOAD is £349 in the UK the exact same software is $349 USD so should be £285 being the same software license. So UK is over charged of £65. GS Pro does not practice this. Garmin does not practice.
Awesome Golf have not responded to this query, disappointing. Fix this Awesome Golf..
ps. i see a wellputt mat in the background. i have one and i love that thing!! combined with a putt out pressure putt trainer, i got pretty sharp inside of 10 feet!!
That's because the US price is before tax due to different states having different tax rates. Add 20% VAT to £285 and you get £342. That's your difference.
I think the comments have answered this question for you 😁
My reasons are they don’t save info, only 4 nine hole courses, slow development. I went GSPRO for variety and loving it!
@@lazy_dad exact same setup mate. It's perfect. Also have the puttout compact mirror. 👌
What are you using on the stand? iPad?
Yeah ipad
David. Love your content. I have had the GarminR10 for 3 months and love it. Has really helped me with my game. Before I purchased it I downloaded both the Garmin app and the awesome golf app to see what they are all about and to help me make my decision. After purchasing the Garmin I have repeatedly tried to use the trial for Awesome Golf and it says my trail period is expired. I never hit one ball or used the app, I just downloaded it. I have written to customer service and have not received a response. I was wondering if you could point me in a proper direction because I’d love to try the app.
Thank you.
Msg them on Instagram. The trial only goes for 14 days whether used or not so once you start it then you have to use it within that timeframe
David. Wanted to write you back to say THANK YOU. I contacted Awesome Golf through Instagram and they reinstated my 14 days trial period. Used it for the first time today. It’s pretty remarkable. Thank you!
David. Awesome Golf APP is great, but it is expensive. Lenny
Good rarely = cheap unfortunately
I’ve been watching your videos with great interest and I’m a little confused that you were using the RCT balls. I seem to recall a recent video where you said they made absolutely no difference and in fact caused some problems particularly when using the wedge. Can you elaborate? Thanks
They’ve had a bug fix since then. Really I’m using the RCT balls because I bought them for the previous videos and have no use for them outside of the simulator and they’re very expensive lol 😂 but I wouldn’t be buying any more. I’d just use the reflective tape
That's a lot to pay for aesthetics.
It’s not just aesthetics, I literally went through a number of major differences between the apps
What irons are you using David?
Rogue st Pros
Good video baby 😊
You are the best 🥰
Face to Path in the coaching is annoying to interpret. Easy to interpret > seeing the hosel.
It’s pretty straightforward. I’ve got a video coming up on this
@@davidmaxfieldgolf Will it be on how to flip it right-side up? Or will it be an explanation of how to cope with the dyslexia it causes?
I look forward to your videos.
At the end of the day the Garmin software is just trash. Forget about the numbers, from a pure usability perspective it's some of the worst commercial software I've ever used. Any time you think "awh wouldn't it be cool if I could..... No. No you can't"
I don't think it's the case that Awesome Golf is amazing. It's not worth the money for me. It's just sad that Garmin set the bar so low with their own software that 300 quid purchase is required to enjoy using a 500 quid product
#rantover
Hey mate, thanks for your comment. I don’t really agree though. I think Garmin understand the limitations of their product and because of that they have opened up their platform to a number of great software products like awesome golf, e6, TCG2019 etc so that the users have options as to which software they’d like to choose.
And if the users are on a budget or don’t want the extra expense then you get e6 for free with 5 courses. That’s a pretty awesome deal for a $500 quid unit.
E6 and awesome golf are not exclusive products to Garmin, so there is going to be a cost to their software. E6 is the main platform used in all true golf simulators around the world so to get a free version of that is pretty incredible
All systems have their strengths and weaknesses. David has shown us here through many videos how you can benefit greatly from the Garmin R10 and thank you very much for that. Based on David and other you tube channels I can now harness the power of a bunch of very good tools developed for the Garmin R10. Garmin R10 app, R10 analytics for PC and best of all GSPro also a PC app.PS! I also have tested awasome golf, E6 and TGC2019 and they also have their advantages. At the end it's up to you to decide wath suts your need's. But to say that the Garmin app is trash without arguments is not something the viewer's here should take seriously.