The catholic church has had these scandals for years. Cases rarely turned into a prosecution. People were hushed with money and if it became too public someone would resign. Still no real consequences. It's terrible this is also happening in the Church of England but not much of a surprise.
Welby has to go, he is the ultimate entitled slopy shouldered hypocrite. How someone like that can lead a faith is beyond me. When you look at the time line its not just Welby passively doing nothing, its looks more proactive, he's actively looking away and I suspect that more is yet to come out.
Not so long ago he wanted to get rid of the stained glass windows because they did not show Jesus as a coloured man - that says it all to me. Jesus was Jewish and not 'black'. He would have had a Middle Eastern appearance with olive skin.
And at this present time the Church has NOT got a hierarchy that can be RESPECTED he should go NOW and investigations started What a disgrace he is to Christianity
I just can’t believe that this man could be so irresponsible as to fail to resign under the circumstances of his failure to lead the organisation he is responsible for. The Church of England and its feudal hierarchy is likely to lose all credibility as long as he refuses to take this necessary step.
THIS has been going on for Centuries ..it Won't STOP 🛑 until Parents & children Speak up as soon as they can to control the Religious system & get rid of these Men.... just my opinion
He should not be allowed to slither away in resignation. He needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Never going to happen because all of the powers that be are full woke, including the king. It is an absolute disgrace.
He does not resign as he is not a Christian , he is a wokest. So is King Charles. The CoE has known about this for 35 years and many others are involved and also need to go. For the full story look at recent Anglican unscripted YT and thier extensive archive.
He is a total disgrace and an insult to truly God loving people. Get him out! If he truly thought the police were investigating as a representative and head of church he should have been following the progress to see the outcome what needed to be done on his part! He admits he knew in 2013!! Whatever way you look at this, it’s wrong, wrong, wrong!! Help the victims ❤ God be with them all.
Glad they mentioned King Charles because he is the head of the Church of England, so has some accountability in this too. Welby didn't deal with this properly at the time, and let Smythe move his abuse to countries that don't have strong child protection laws and abuse is common. Fired and charged is the only outcome for Welby. Will Starmer be strong enough to demand it though?
You might want to Google "prince charles and Peter ball" and read what the bbc, guardian articles say. Then you might question the kings moral authority on such matters
Theres something very evil about this man. He needs to resign and face crimmi al prosecution for aiding and abetting the abuse faced by those poor children . I go hope the victims have received appropriate support and financial compensation for the trauna they experienced.
This is so incredibly upsetting. It's an absolute tragedy no one did anything to stop that disgusting man and he was allowed to completely escape justice. It's harrowing.
I’m a person who actually goes to church ( a dying breed these days) a C of E member at that,I’m 77, and having seen off 5 Archbishops of Canterbury ,none of wish you’d pay in washers, cannot stand Welby.( and his woke , management team calked the General Synod ,( that’s what the church is now just another job with a fast track management scheme). Sick to the back teeth of his political preaching safe in a palace, with money in the bank from his job in industry, and guaranteed seat in the House of Lords and seat at the top table at state occasions. I was really hoping that after the top three jobs under his belt ,death of Philip, the dear Queen,and Coronation he’d retire ,write his book and disappear,sadly no. 😡. HAVENT mentioned the Harkle wedding because he made a pigs ear of that with letting the idiots claim he married them privately until the Queen told him to sort it out. It seems that clergy who are time served in a parish, kind, who live a caring life , DONT preach THEIR politics,aren’t interested in the greasy management ladder. God Bless um. ( seems the next one in line for the job YORK is already preparing to follow in his footsteps.) I remain in the church DISPITE the clergy.😵💫
I am pagan - I stopped being CoE when I was 15. I respect your views however and I cannot imagine what the true and faithful are going through right now. I will be appropriating however your phrase, ‘I wouldn’t pay them in washers’. Like the commentators, I’m not sure a situation like this has ever happened before in the See of Canterbury.
If Gary Lineker was supportive of the Conservative Party and called the Labour Party communists then I don’t think people would be saying stick to football commentary. Gary Lineker probably said to himself I don’t need this hassle, I’m making loads of money from Goal Hanger Productions and MOTD is on the way down like Football Focus.
Why didn't these boys say something? How did they all become silent. If someone hits you, TELL someone in authority. The assawlting is inexcusable, but why did not one of them speak up?
He said he didn’t care about the institution of the CofE. It shows because he would have resigned. So arrogant thinking he is the only one to bring about safeguarding. 9 other bishops are also implicated. The former bishop of Ely now the bishop of Lincoln. Made bishop of lincon just days ago. Shows no contrition or accountabilities. He is a bureaucrat not a churchman. No sign of the holy spirit.
@ I am aware. What led up to the deliberate sanctioning of Becketts assassination is interesting. What is even more interesting is how Henry got himself out of it. Now that is a story.
British Brothers and Sisters , please wake up , you ruled the world when you are strong in our Lord Jesus Christ and sent many Christian missionaries to the world for sharing the Gospel, now you are dead in Christian faith and family culture is not good like before, So other religions took this as an opportunity to invade you. Stand up and remove the false bishops and appointed the God fearing bishops / priests who ever they have rejected.
The most shocking thing about this is the fact that this was reported to the police in 2013 when KEIR STARMER was head of public prosecutions. Unbelievable that a man like that is PM
My dad died of cancer and it was horrific but I would never have wanted him to do assisted dying despite how awful it was for him and us, his main problem was the palliative care that was disgraceful and his lack of pain relief due to incompetent hospice staff.
Defrock him, charge , trial and imprisonment. How on earth do people continue to believe in the church ? How much power have these men of the church have ? I’m a atheist anyway and this proves why followers have been conned for centuries.
Bishops get together and vote this morally repugnant individual out asap. NB he has no morals or he would of resigned. Get him out higher church people
Instead of leaving it to Parliament, there should be a referendum on assisted dying. It is a personal issue and is too important to leave it to politicians.
“For anyone with any sense, who was in trouble, would come to the whips and tell them the truth, and say now, I’m in a jam, can you help? It might be debt, it might be… a scandal involving small boys, or any kind of scandal in which, erm er, a member seemed likely to be mixed up in, they’d come and ask if we could help and if we could, we did. And we would do everything we can because we would store up brownie points… and if I mean, that sounds a pretty, pretty nasty reason, but it’s one of the reasons because if we could get a chap out of trouble then, he will do as we ask forever more.” - Tim Fortescue Heath government Tory whip, interviewed in a 1995 BBC documentary, ‘Westminster's Secret Service’.
This is nothing to do with Mr Welby “being sorry” for what he hasn’t done to address the problem of the abuser and more importantly, the abused. It is about taking responsibility and being accountable for the organisation/institution he is responsible for. Does he not understand this ?
Welby, His arrogance and all the excuses under the sun. He had to go and all the others must go too. Trust is broken. The way forward, make a clean sweep of all those that knew and promoted this cover up.
He has betrayed his office and what his stated faith position should be. He should probably never have accepted the office in the first place and clearly needs to go now
Anyone that supports Welby is sending the message that ignoring and shielding child abuse is acceptable.
That's a lot of Christians and Catholics around the world bro
Shame on COE .....
@@JohnHaroldFinnegana lot of politicians and people who work in mainstream media.
Disgrace to the church and makes you suspicious of Welby and why he covered it up
Cuz they're all in it
Guilty by association!
Absolutely correct
Exactly he should be arrested and questioned and sentenced ...absolutely shocking
Welby is NOT a believer in the first place - should go to jail.
Sack him and prosecute him.
Exactly.
Welby has wrecked the church by his woke views and sticking his beak into politics.
This is such a disgrace & very very suspicious, Welby should have not only acted to stop the abuser but also who else in the Church knew & did nothing
Arrest him now. Complicit in these crimes.
The police need to look into this.
im being setup by social services care services and the police ive been abused by them and attacked im not safe.
They are praying.❤
@@steve042 see a lawyer.
No resignation he needs SACKED IMMEDIATELY
Welby, an apology is not enough! Resign now!
Not to just resign, he should be investigated by the police finally, and prosecuted
The catholic church has had these scandals for years. Cases rarely turned into a prosecution. People were hushed with money and if it became too public someone would resign. Still no real consequences. It's terrible this is also happening in the Church of England but not much of a surprise.
Ain't easy holyrolling suckers😂😂
RELIGION AND THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE ARE VERY POWERFUL , REMEMBER THAT , THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG
@JacquelineIthell-t7s Religion is a powerful Farce.
Absolutely outrageous situation Church of England 🇬🇧
Welby has to go, he is the ultimate entitled slopy shouldered hypocrite. How someone like that can lead a faith is beyond me. When you look at the time line its not just Welby passively doing nothing, its looks more proactive, he's actively looking away and I suspect that more is yet to come out.
Not so long ago he wanted to get rid of the stained glass windows because they did not show Jesus as a coloured man - that says it all to me. Jesus was Jewish and not 'black'. He would have had a Middle Eastern appearance with olive skin.
As Alfred Hitchcock put it with advice to children,
'If you see a religious priest coming towards you....... run for your life'
I thought Hitchcock was referring to Catholic priests... This is a bit shocking for me!
SEE THAT WAS YOUR MISTAKE, SADLY @@M.B.331
The Church of England needs leadership that believes and proclaims the Word of God, and that lives accordingly.
And at this present time the Church has NOT got a hierarchy that can be RESPECTED he should go NOW and investigations started What a disgrace he is to Christianity
They'd have to give all their riches away first. 😂
This is another jimmy saville case all over again .
Yes and protected by the king/ starmer/ mainstream media and his best friend Margaret Thatcher.
I just can’t believe that this man could be so irresponsible as to fail to resign under the circumstances of his failure to lead the organisation he is responsible for. The Church of England and its feudal hierarchy is likely to lose all credibility as long as he refuses to take this necessary step.
He should not be allowed to just walk away with a substantial pension he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law
He and 9 Bishops should be sacked!!!
He is criminally liable . Should be arrested for withholding evidence.
This is DISGUSTING.....WHY ISN'T HE IN JAIL ????
THIS has been going on for Centuries ..it Won't STOP 🛑 until Parents & children Speak up as soon as they can to control the Religious system & get rid of these Men.... just my opinion
He should not be allowed to slither away in resignation. He needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Never going to happen because all of the powers that be are full woke, including the king. It is an absolute disgrace.
This type of people who's destroying Christianity
He didn't help me when I raised serious concerns about corruption etc at high level
How does this encourage people to stay in the church.
Unfortunately it doesn't it has done more damage to the institution
So, not only the Catholic priests are doing this kind of things! 😨
It probably happens in all religions.
Don’t forget scout masters.
@@catherinegrimes2308
Yes, I read something about the religious schools in the middle east... 😉
@@MarionGolbourn
This was a huge problem a few decades ago... I hope it's better now.
It’s rife everywhere
For him to know this he needs to be put away.
He does not resign as he is not a Christian , he is a wokest. So is King Charles. The CoE has known about this for 35 years and many others are involved and also need to go. For the full story look at recent Anglican unscripted YT and thier extensive archive.
He is a total disgrace and an insult to truly God loving people. Get him out!
If he truly thought the police were investigating as a representative and head of church he should have been following the progress to see the outcome what needed to be done on his part!
He admits he knew in 2013!!
Whatever way you look at this, it’s wrong, wrong, wrong!!
Help the victims ❤
God be with them all.
Is anyone surprised
Religion is coming to an end not before time we will realise that we are spiritual beings and not accountable to any human being
Glad they mentioned King Charles because he is the head of the Church of England, so has some accountability in this too. Welby didn't deal with this properly at the time, and let Smythe move his abuse to countries that don't have strong child protection laws and abuse is common. Fired and charged is the only outcome for Welby. Will Starmer be strong enough to demand it though?
King Charles is not a Christian
@@phileliot6034 Do you fulfil John 14:12 - by the way...
Resign Today.
But he won't and apologies are too late would he have done so if not found out
Because like all people caught out he denies that he is responsible. It make you wonder if he is guilty of similar crimes himself.
Should be fired by the king
You might want to Google "prince charles and Peter ball" and read what the bbc, guardian articles say. Then you might question the kings moral authority on such matters
He is part of the class that expect to get away with it. Nothing has changed
He's one of them
All of these people need to be in jail! The abuse of children is rampant in our country and it needs to stop!
Justin Welby OUT NOW
He should be charged unlocked up for knowing what was going off
Touched by the hand of God the archbishop would say.
Church abuse scandal? How absolutely shocking.
SICK!
Theres something very evil about this man. He needs to resign and face crimmi al prosecution for aiding and abetting the abuse faced by those poor children . I go hope the victims have received appropriate support and financial compensation for the trauna they experienced.
This is so incredibly upsetting. It's an absolute tragedy no one did anything to stop that disgusting man and he was allowed to completely escape justice. It's harrowing.
Welby wanted Paula Venells to be Bishop of London, a good fit for the COE.
I’m a person who actually goes to church ( a dying breed these days) a C of E member at that,I’m 77, and having seen off 5 Archbishops of Canterbury ,none of wish you’d pay in washers, cannot stand Welby.( and his woke , management team calked the General Synod ,( that’s what the church is now just another job with a fast track management scheme). Sick to the back teeth of his political preaching safe in a palace, with money in the bank from his job in industry, and guaranteed seat in the House of Lords and seat at the top table at state occasions. I was really hoping that after the top three jobs under his belt ,death of Philip, the dear Queen,and Coronation he’d retire ,write his book and disappear,sadly no. 😡. HAVENT mentioned the Harkle wedding because he made a pigs ear of that with letting the idiots claim he married them privately until the Queen told him to sort it out. It seems that clergy who are time served in a parish, kind, who live a caring life , DONT preach THEIR politics,aren’t interested in the greasy management ladder. God Bless um. ( seems the next one in line for the job YORK is already preparing to follow in his footsteps.) I remain in the church DISPITE the clergy.😵💫
I agree I will carry on at present my personal faith carries me but like you have no respect for present hierarchy God help us if York takes over
I am pagan - I stopped being CoE when I was 15. I respect your views however and I cannot imagine what the true and faithful are going through right now.
I will be appropriating however your phrase, ‘I wouldn’t pay them in washers’.
Like the commentators, I’m not sure a situation like this has ever happened before in the See of Canterbury.
77 and you use that far right word WOKE. what's your real age 🤔
@@jake751 Rude.
Horrendous
What is the Crown doing about it
The usual I expect, absolutely zero!
Corruption all round I'm Afraid.
If Gary Lineker was supportive of the Conservative Party and called the Labour Party communists then I don’t think people would be saying stick to football commentary.
Gary Lineker probably said to himself I don’t need this hassle, I’m making loads of money from Goal Hanger Productions and MOTD is on the way down like Football Focus.
Arrest Smythe's wife. She's not innocent
Absolutely disgraceful
Delighted he is gone, He was an unfit wokester that wrecked the church, The king should have sacked him.
Why didn't these boys say something? How did they all become silent. If someone hits you, TELL someone in authority. The assawlting is inexcusable, but why did not one of them speak up?
He should go to prison! No ifs not buts! He is guilty!
What a shower of hypocrites. Gary Linekar has the whotsits to call out a holly-cost being carried out openly on a daily basis .
Welby should be in prison.
UK has a dark unaccountable past, without doubt this will lead to a Dark future.
Kevin, please take a sip of that water
He should be sacked 😡
He said he didn’t care about the institution of the CofE. It shows because he would have resigned. So arrogant thinking he is the only one to bring about safeguarding.
9 other bishops are also implicated. The former bishop of Ely now the bishop of Lincoln. Made bishop of lincon just days ago.
Shows no contrition or accountabilities. He is a bureaucrat not a churchman.
No sign of the holy spirit.
He has resigned now, obvious he would!
All church modalities is an epidemic of denial and abhorrent hypocrisy
Get the log out of your eye, Welby!
Who will rid us of this turbulent priest?
Said someone… An apposite quotation at present.
@@theastral1909 Henry ll ?
@@Mutasis_Mutandis That’s the chap!
@@theastral1909 It was Henry II, so it is said, before his knights murdered the then Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas a-Becket.
@ I am aware. What led up to the deliberate sanctioning of Becketts assassination is interesting.
What is even more interesting is how Henry got himself out of it. Now that is a story.
If we knew everything about him, bet there'd be calls for him to be jailed
British Brothers and Sisters , please wake up , you ruled the world when you are strong in our Lord Jesus Christ and sent many Christian missionaries to the world for sharing the Gospel, now you are dead in Christian faith and family culture is not good like before, So other religions took this as an opportunity to invade you. Stand up and remove the false bishops and appointed the God fearing bishops / priests who ever they have rejected.
Urged to be resign? He should be removed/sacked!
LEAVE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What an awful, awful, man!
I’ve always thought he looked a bit creepy tbh
Evil personified.
Leave now, you're no man of God.
And men still wounder and ask us why would we pick a bear over a man.
The most shocking thing about this is the fact that this was reported to the police in 2013 when KEIR STARMER was head of public prosecutions.
Unbelievable that a man like that is PM
Liar liar pants on fire
'Tommy' and the lads not marching? 🤣
He refused to speak with the Palestinian Christian Pastor last December because the Pastor had shared a platform with Jeremy Corbyn.
Ridiculous. Welby should read the Bible.
And that ecplains it all he is NOT a law abiding person this proves it SAFEGUARDING made a mockery by the hierarchy who installed it HYPOCRITES
Is there more to come out
A man like Justin does not represent us as an Anglican community in the world. I hope the victims find justice.
My dad died of cancer and it was horrific but I would never have wanted him to do assisted dying despite how awful it was for him and us, his main problem was the palliative care that was disgraceful and his lack of pain relief due to incompetent hospice staff.
Defrock him, charge , trial and imprisonment. How on earth do people continue to believe in the church ? How much power have these men of the church have ? I’m a atheist anyway and this proves why followers have been conned for centuries.
Welby needs an in depth look in to his hard drive they all cover for each other
Bishops get together and vote this morally repugnant individual out asap. NB he has no morals or he would of resigned. Get him out higher church people
There are others that also knew and were part of hiding from the police and public. There needs to be a criminal investigation.
Instead of leaving it to Parliament, there should be a referendum on assisted dying. It is a personal issue and is too important to leave it to politicians.
Those who preach the loudest
Has the most to hide
Disgusting and he is meant to be a man of God
“For anyone with any sense, who was in trouble, would come to the whips and tell them the truth, and say now, I’m in a jam, can you help? It might be debt, it might be… a scandal involving small boys, or any kind of scandal in which, erm er, a member seemed likely to be mixed up in, they’d come and ask if we could help and if we could, we did. And we would do everything we can because we would store up brownie points… and if I mean, that sounds a pretty, pretty nasty reason, but it’s one of the reasons because if we could get a chap out of trouble then, he will do as we ask forever more.” - Tim Fortescue Heath government Tory whip, interviewed in a 1995 BBC documentary, ‘Westminster's Secret Service’.
This is nothing to do with Mr Welby “being sorry” for what he hasn’t done to address the problem of the abuser and more importantly, the abused. It is about taking responsibility and being accountable for the organisation/institution he is responsible for. Does he not understand this ?
Why quit if you've done nothing? Hmmm
Welby will never resign just like so many in authority he is a combination of arrogance ambition and hypocrisy. Typical smug humbug.
May a man of God and faithfulness to the Scriptures be appointed to the task ahead. Lord have mercy.
Not surprised at what goes on in Britain nowadays!!!!!
What's the betting that they select a woman or person of colour or both for his replacement?
I can't believe these presenters bashing their bishop on live TV.
Welby, His arrogance and all the excuses under the sun. He had to go and all the others must go too.
Trust is broken.
The way forward, make a clean sweep of all those that knew and promoted this cover up.
Shock horror who'd have thought the chruch would cover for kiddy fiddlers.
This man is not a man of God, more a work of the devil
Let's not forget the abuse that went on in the Catholic churches
He has betrayed his office and what his stated faith position should be. He should probably never have accepted the office in the first place and clearly needs to go now