@@sound.workshop Looks like you could have a hard time using the wiggle by only touching the capacitive sensor. That's why you added the hot glue wedges I assume. If you want to make it as a product I would consider making the wiggle with as little resistance as possible and then allow configuring some artificial resistance in maybe with some clamps or something.
Yes, I showed my dad. It might be a .real game changer. You ought to try to get a patent (if you aren't already applying). I was awarded US # 9,024,168.
Amazing work ! Probably the best DIY synth I've seen in a long time, the essential is there, a great instrument doesn't need more features. I would love to see the programming in detail in a future video, and I would buy this for sure as a DIY kit, or a finished product with this form factor.
this is rad. it’s reassuring to know there are good ppl preserving the awesome potential of music via science and engineering! hoping more young artists’ promote stuff like this. nothing cooler than being able to share literally building an instrument. no plugin or software subscription model will ever be able to rival how cool it is to be able to say you built that sound. dood, thx for making this. solder on!
Thanks for the lovely comment! I really appreciate it. Yes I totally agree. That’s one thing that makes synthesizers so cool. You can dream up any instrument. And these days there are some pretty magical tools to build with.
I LOVE this! The sound of it is pretty unique and makes other DIY synths look like toys for kids (they're great but yours is on another level!). The wiggle effect is just the cherry on top, really makes it one of a kind! If you make it open source instead, I am building it right away!
Thanks! I don’t have open source plans in the near term but it’s something I’ll consider. My first priority is figuring out how to ship a reliable well calibrated instrument, before figuring out how to set up other people to build one
The muted texture of those sounds make it sound like synth sounds from an old album. I say that as a compliment. The sounds are warm and comforting and not harsh. I can imagine anyone who makes retro music that sound like the ‘70s or even makes Hip Hop melodies with filters and sounds that give a sampled feel would enjoy that piece of gear.
Thank you! I think another element that makes it sound vintage is that the pitch is always wavering slightly due to any small motions of the wiggle flexure
So the magnet sensor also acts as your fsr?? I need to read more into this. This is amazing! I always wondered why electromagnetism wasn’t implemented in fsr sensors, or resistant sensors
@@flywittzbeats4008 yes that’s one way to think of it. I would describe it this way: the magnet/Hall effect sensor pair is a position sensor, it measures the position of the flexure. The flexure has stiffness, which means I need to apply some force to travel some distance. So therefore in some sense I can estimate how much force the user is applying if I know the stiffness of the flexure
It's amazing how just adding the two dimensional expression control allows you to simulate brass so much more accurately using just a triangle wave, attack envelope and filter combo - no sampling required. If you were to market this as a product, it would probably help to either expand the sound engine a bit, or just do away with it and sell the control surface by itself. Amazing work! I'm glad I found this video.
I was on a reddit thread trying to figure out if I could just simply solder a cv out onto a cheap Casio digital keyboard and came across this video. this is so damn cool, great job!!!
This is a really cool controller - I absolutely love the keyboard - as a cellist, this fits perfectly in my sensibilities. One thing I'd love to see with this would be to be able to include the modulation for attack into the vertical movement of the controller as well - perhaps some way that you can have it be controlled only by the knob or to turn it up so that as you use the controller to open the filter, it can also shorten the attack by a dialed in amount (similar to how the filter cutoff works already) - this could allow you to have both expressive, softer playing as well as more aggressive attacks accessible only through the keys, which will lead to a much wider space for performance and emotive playing. Just a thought! Seems like a really cool concept also to explore for a more generalized MIDI controller! Slapping a standard keyboard layout and possibly giving an octave or two more range without needing to hit an octave button could make this a powerful expressive controller for a wide variety of sample instruments and synths. I know that opens up the development requirements quite a bit, but it'd be a cool dream!
I agree with you it would be nice if there was some way to use pressure or velocity to modulate the pluck intensity or make the pluck speed. It’s on my mind. Hard to think of a clean way to do it on the front panel
Thanks! Ondes is a big inspiration. Part of my motivation here was to make a “minimum viable expressive synth” so that more people can get that feeling of their hand melting into the synth
@@TheMagebear Trautonium was in my head somewhere but I was more inspired by trying to make the simplest possible thing that captures the joy of LinnStrument. The two things I wanted to keep were some sort of force = emphasis, and wiggle for vibrato. I've come to realize how amazing Trautonium is only recently.
This is so cool, Chris! Love the mechanical design and the expression it allows. And the video explanation, too. Really looking forward to see how the journey unfolds. Keep it up!
@@sound.workshop It's typically a distorted wub sound that oscillates faster as pitch goes up and slower as pitch goes down. It's really interesting when pitch bending / sliding between notes. Popularized by Noisia.
Ya to me it’s fun to think if this could have been made with technology from a few decades ago, but today im definitely going digital haha. Maybe I’ll do an analog iteration if this goes well
This a great springboard into making a DIY Expressive E Osmose for like 1/10th the cost! Thank you for the valuable info on that DRV 5053! That is some super inspirational info for implementing expression into a DIY instrument! I'd bet a small FPGA could probably expand the ADC inputs for more keys and input, and the Daisy should be able to send MPE signals for aftertouch expression and whatnot to interact with JUCE/Gen~ and other plugins/hardware.
@@sound.workshop youve really inspired me down two paths with this video, one the sound and two the interaction mechanisms. Its ignited some positive thinking after a block so thanks!
Great stuff! Had to restart to listen with headphones, sounds really good! Been a while since I bought a synth, Behringer Monopoly, but would love to see this get to market...
The Ondes was definitely an inspiration here. The original intent was to have the left hand push on a block just like the Ondes, until I discovered this flexure that could do both pressure and wiggle
Wow! If this goes for reasonable price, I am definitely buying one. I like how it's entirely minimalistic (both in hardware and sound palette) yet it looks very flexible.
I really enjoyed the sound, also I like the shape of the synthesizer, even in it's unfinished state. I do worry a lil how durable the expressive keyboard is and how versatile the sound generation is. I think adding CV and midi out for the expressive controls would go a long way in making this thing a better value proposition in the future. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Unfortunately the shape is going to be more of a flat slab like 0-coast for the production version. That makes it cheaper and easier to build. Maybe if I have some success I can come back and make a deluxe version with a tilting panel. Reliability is a problem we can address. The flexure travel will have hard stops that limit the travel well within the elastic deformation zone. Then we can estimate and test the number of cycles it can take before failing due to fatigue. Worst case scenario it’s a cheap part to replace and I’ll design it to be user replaceable
This is beautiful instrument-building. You solved one of the great problems with all keyboard instruments: you can't bend :D You also found an elegant new way to do a finicky old thing: key levers.
Sounds and works great! Thanks for the walkthrough
Thanks Loopop! I learned from the best! ;)
Actually, now that I think about it, your continuumini video is where I first heard about expressive synths, so thanks again!
@@sound.workshop Looks like you could have a hard time using the wiggle by only touching the capacitive sensor. That's why you added the hot glue wedges I assume. If you want to make it as a product I would consider making the wiggle with as little resistance as possible and then allow configuring some artificial resistance in maybe with some clamps or something.
How many Flexes does it take to get the center of the univer- I mean until it breaks?
This has to be one of the best sounding DIY synths I have heard online!
Thanks! It’s all about the expressive interface.
Yes, I showed my dad. It might be a .real game changer. You ought to try to get a patent (if you aren't already applying). I was awarded US # 9,024,168.
Wow! Amazing development from the Daisy Seed!
check more recent videos, Wiggler is even better now!
this is possibly the coolest synth build i have seen yet. I want to build one!
Thanks Benjamin!
Amazing work ! Probably the best DIY synth I've seen in a long time, the essential is there, a great instrument doesn't need more features. I would love to see the programming in detail in a future video, and I would buy this for sure as a DIY kit, or a finished product with this form factor.
Thanks for letting me know Louis. And extra thanks for a video suggestion! I’ll make some programming videos in the future
@@sound.workshop Awesome! I'm very interested.
Very cool. Looking forward to your programming videos.
BRILLIANT! I appreciate this as a tinkerer. I wish I had musical skill to accompany my tinkering side.
Haha thanks. honestly I think this is good for beginners because all the notes sound good
I love this! Can't wait to see what happens with this channel!
thanks for the encouragement
this is rad. it’s reassuring to know there are good ppl preserving the awesome potential of music via science and engineering! hoping more young artists’ promote stuff like this. nothing cooler than being able to share literally building an instrument. no plugin or software subscription model will ever be able to rival how cool it is to be able to say you built that sound. dood, thx for making this. solder on!
Thanks for the lovely comment! I really appreciate it.
Yes I totally agree. That’s one thing that makes synthesizers so cool. You can dream up any instrument. And these days there are some pretty magical tools to build with.
Awesome work, that thing sounds really cool.
thanks a lot!
I genuinely had the ideal for something like this as a teen, never even thought to learn. The engineering skills to make it though.
I would buy this in a heartbeat. This is incredible, I love how expressive you can be with it its insane! Great work!
Nice, thanks for the encouragement. Ya I love how alive it sounds despite its simplicity. It’s all about the expressive input
Like that a lot. That's a lot better. Good product. Would absolutely pay for a midi device like that.
thanks a lot! There will be MIDI out and some CV outs
Excellent design and construction. Your explanation is both basic enough for those new to music synthesis and also experienced synthers. Well done!
Great, I’m glad you liked it.
I learned a bunch from this video. I've heard the terms, but seeing on the scope being described was really helpful.
the visuals from scope helps a lot! Glad you appreciated it
Using those flexures on an instrument is a 200 IQ idea. That's cool man.
I love how your sound effects have human-understandable labels, instead of techno-jargon.
Fantastic! Good luck to you! I'll be checking in here and there.
Great!
I LOVE this! The sound of it is pretty unique and makes other DIY synths look like toys for kids (they're great but yours is on another level!). The wiggle effect is just the cherry on top, really makes it one of a kind! If you make it open source instead, I am building it right away!
Thanks! I don’t have open source plans in the near term but it’s something I’ll consider. My first priority is figuring out how to ship a reliable well calibrated instrument, before figuring out how to set up other people to build one
Amazing! I can't wait to see it on shelves everywhere.
I hope so! Thanks
Really love the sound this produces, awesome work. Can't wait to see the progress of turning this into a full-on product!
Thanks! I’m going to need more video ideas if you have any requests let me know 👍
The muted texture of those sounds make it sound like synth sounds from an old album. I say that as a compliment. The sounds are warm and comforting and not harsh. I can imagine anyone who makes retro music that sound like the ‘70s or even makes Hip Hop melodies with filters and sounds that give a sampled feel would enjoy that piece of gear.
Thank you! I think another element that makes it sound vintage is that the pitch is always wavering slightly due to any small motions of the wiggle flexure
Yess finally someone using large nozzle FFM printing in a project like this. Really cool instrument and function!!
Haha ya big nozzle big plastic flow!
Are you bringing this to market? This is seriously a great idea! Worth refining and presenting to prospective buyers.
thanks for your interest! Yes I'm still working on it. More info later this year
Congrats, both on the product and video. Awesome use of hall effect sensor.
Thanks, I’m really happy by the positive response
Great project! I'm coming along for the ride.
Let’s go!
Oh man, I would definitely buy one of these.
Wow!! 😍
I’m glad you like it Dr Mix!
superb! I bet Bob Moog would go crazy on this if he was alive. extra kudos for sharing your knowledge with us
Thank you. The minimoog was an inspiration for this
well this thing is just incredible. so expressive.
Thank you, working on making more
Great work! Super informative video too 😀
Thanks! I’ve been a fan of yours for years. Glad to see you here 🌈🌈
So the magnet sensor also acts as your fsr?? I need to read more into this. This is amazing! I always wondered why electromagnetism wasn’t implemented in fsr sensors, or resistant sensors
@@flywittzbeats4008 yes that’s one way to think of it. I would describe it this way: the magnet/Hall effect sensor pair is a position sensor, it measures the position of the flexure. The flexure has stiffness, which means I need to apply some force to travel some distance. So therefore in some sense I can estimate how much force the user is applying if I know the stiffness of the flexure
It's amazing how just adding the two dimensional expression control allows you to simulate brass so much more accurately using just a triangle wave, attack envelope and filter combo - no sampling required.
If you were to market this as a product, it would probably help to either expand the sound engine a bit, or just do away with it and sell the control surface by itself.
Amazing work! I'm glad I found this video.
I want to build one too. This is exceptional work! Genius level stuff! Easy to use. Few knobs but incredible flexibility in sound!
Thanks Julius! I think there are other expressive synths out there but this might be the only one that is knob per function
Such a fantastic project! I’m excited to follow along and hope this turns into a successful product. Count me in for an order.
awesome 👍thanks for letting me know
I was on a reddit thread trying to figure out if I could just simply solder a cv out onto a cheap Casio digital keyboard and came across this video. this is so damn cool, great job!!!
haha thanks!
Love the flex feature and how it came about. My projects tend to evolve by chance too,
I must say, it's instrument of the decade. I would like to play with this for a moment. Great guality.
nice vid,..cool floating keybed
Fantastic instrument! Thank you for the detailed walkthrough of how you built it.
My pleasure, thanks for letting me know
AMAAZING! A very expressive little Box, there!
This is a really cool controller - I absolutely love the keyboard - as a cellist, this fits perfectly in my sensibilities. One thing I'd love to see with this would be to be able to include the modulation for attack into the vertical movement of the controller as well - perhaps some way that you can have it be controlled only by the knob or to turn it up so that as you use the controller to open the filter, it can also shorten the attack by a dialed in amount (similar to how the filter cutoff works already) - this could allow you to have both expressive, softer playing as well as more aggressive attacks accessible only through the keys, which will lead to a much wider space for performance and emotive playing. Just a thought!
Seems like a really cool concept also to explore for a more generalized MIDI controller! Slapping a standard keyboard layout and possibly giving an octave or two more range without needing to hit an octave button could make this a powerful expressive controller for a wide variety of sample instruments and synths. I know that opens up the development requirements quite a bit, but it'd be a cool dream!
I agree with you it would be nice if there was some way to use pressure or velocity to modulate the pluck intensity or make the pluck speed. It’s on my mind. Hard to think of a clean way to do it on the front panel
This is BRILLIANT!! Congrats for a great job!! "BRAVO"!!!
Thanks for letting me know. Stay tuned for more!
I love what you've created, and I'm really excited to see what you'll share next!
This is brilliant, thanks for sharing! Great explanation too
Glad you liked it! I rolled the camera for 50 minutes and cut it down to 9.5.
The outro jam reminded me of the Echo the Dolphin game
Peace
Genius! It's like a baby Ondes Martenot without the insane price tag. I love it! Brilliant work!
Thanks! Ondes is a big inspiration. Part of my motivation here was to make a “minimum viable expressive synth” so that more people can get that feeling of their hand melting into the synth
Were you thinking Trautonium for the vertical modulation?@@sound.workshop
@@TheMagebear Trautonium was in my head somewhere but I was more inspired by trying to make the simplest possible thing that captures the joy of LinnStrument. The two things I wanted to keep were some sort of force = emphasis, and wiggle for vibrato. I've come to realize how amazing Trautonium is only recently.
Subscribed. Looking forward to seeing your journey. You will have an audience for ready-make final products to buy as well as those interested in DIY
Thanks! Making a kit is low priority for me but at least with the videos I feel like I’m giving something to the DIY crowd
This is so cool, Chris! Love the mechanical design and the expression it allows. And the video explanation, too. Really looking forward to see how the journey unfolds. Keep it up!
Thanks Roey! 🎉
Would LOVE to hear a neurobass sound played on this. So cool! Nice work!
To do list: google neurobass
@@sound.workshop It's typically a distorted wub sound that oscillates faster as pitch goes up and slower as pitch goes down. It's really interesting when pitch bending / sliding between notes. Popularized by Noisia.
@@sound.workshop Otherwise known as a reece bass.
Just Awesome 🥰
And it sounds pretty gorgeous 😍🥰
Really nice idea and sounds amazingly like a trombone for some reason.
Ya i agree it’s very tromboney. I hope it ends up having more range
Very, very cool project.
very cool project. looking forward to hear music made on it.
Reminder, that I would purchase one, and maybe more..... thanks, JQuinn
absolutely! Still working on it. Thank you for the encouragement
What an amazing build. Next level.
Wooo! Awesome project. I'm here for your jouney!
Thank you! More videos coming soon
Nice sound and very creative design. This would've been huge in the 70's
Ya to me it’s fun to think if this could have been made with technology from a few decades ago, but today im definitely going digital haha. Maybe I’ll do an analog iteration if this goes well
Incredibly cool - I hope this video blows up!
That's some excellent work there ol buddy pal, keep it up
Wiggler 5ever!
This is EPIC! Looking forward to the upcoming version!
Thank you for the encouragement!
oh the sound! this is excellent, thank you for shring.
This a great springboard into making a DIY Expressive E Osmose for like 1/10th the cost! Thank you for the valuable info on that DRV 5053! That is some super inspirational info for implementing expression into a DIY instrument! I'd bet a small FPGA could probably expand the ADC inputs for more keys and input, and the Daisy should be able to send MPE signals for aftertouch expression and whatnot to interact with JUCE/Gen~ and other plugins/hardware.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for letting me know. Ya the dev 5053 is awesome
You got something here with alot of potencial. Hope to see more upgrades to this amazing machine.
So great. Please keep posted on production and when it becomes available!
Will do!
Wow, what a neat project! I want one.
This is sooo Bad Ass man! I only mess with kids toys and circuit bend them. This project is on a whole different level.
I would buy this. Sounds gorgeous.
Whoa that sounds amazing!!!
It’s really coming to life. And this was just my lapel mic audio. I’ll get better audio in future vids
Sound amazing, nice and simple!
Amazing Synth. So expressive. Great job.
thanks for letting me know! stick around to see me develop it into a product
That was very inspiring! Thanks, internet (and Souns Workshop), for that such of things.
My pleasure!
Thankyou! I hope your product goes into production.
This is incredible!! As a tinkerer and a music lover myself, I would be 110% interested in your future product. GREAT VIDEO! AWESOME CREATION!!
Thank you!
sounds beautiful
Thanks! It’s funny when I worked on it it sounded bad for a month but luckily it all clicked together in the end
@@sound.workshop youve really inspired me down two paths with this video, one the sound and two the interaction mechanisms. Its ignited some positive thinking after a block so thanks!
Great stuff! Had to restart to listen with headphones, sounds really good!
Been a while since I bought a synth, Behringer Monopoly, but would love to see this get to market...
Thank you, also this was just the audio from my lapel mic. I'll get some real directly recorded audio for feature videos it'll be even better.
Good luck with everything! Great project and nice presentation so far. Also really cool seeing Barnaby Dixon and loopop here :)
This is an awesome build. Never heard of the Daisy before but this will surely put me down a rabbit hole. Best of luck making it a product.
Thanks!
I will some as soon as available! Thanks.....
Nice use of linear Hall Effect sensors! Can't wait to see the next version.
This is pretty cool. And I had never heard of Daisy Seed before. Nice work.
Thanks a lot!
Brilliant demo. Super inspiring.
That is a great key design!
I'm reminded of the ondes martenot, this is awesome.
The Ondes was definitely an inspiration here. The original intent was to have the left hand push on a block just like the Ondes, until I discovered this flexure that could do both pressure and wiggle
This is the best YT video I've viewed this month. :) Awesome!
amazing piece of art !
Wow! If this goes for reasonable price, I am definitely buying one. I like how it's entirely minimalistic (both in hardware and sound palette) yet it looks very flexible.
Thanks! Yes I think that the expressive interface gives it a lot of depth, so you don’t need a complicated synth interface
I really enjoyed the sound, also I like the shape of the synthesizer, even in it's unfinished state. I do worry a lil how durable the expressive keyboard is and how versatile the sound generation is. I think adding CV and midi out for the expressive controls would go a long way in making this thing a better value proposition in the future. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Unfortunately the shape is going to be more of a flat slab like 0-coast for the production version. That makes it cheaper and easier to build. Maybe if I have some success I can come back and make a deluxe version with a tilting panel.
Reliability is a problem we can address. The flexure travel will have hard stops that limit the travel well within the elastic deformation zone. Then we can estimate and test the number of cycles it can take before failing due to fatigue. Worst case scenario it’s a cheap part to replace and I’ll design it to be user replaceable
Dude! This is totally brilliant! I love it.
Thank you!
I would love one of these.
fantastic! what a cool instrument you built.
Thank you! The video should v1. I’m bringing v3 to superbooth now! More videos to come
Wonderful expressiveness.
this is awesome in every way. I want to build one myself! then, play crazy futuristic music and have a good time.
Haha awesome! Well I hope this video helps. I’ll make more detailed videos in the future
congratulations on a great build, thanks for the video and looking forward to see what comes next
Thanks! Working on v2 now
Brilliant! You have really done a formidable job with incredible and beautiful results! 👍💪👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you for the encouragement! More to come
Awesome project and great demo! This can both be a professional controller and also a great educational toy for children. Subscribed!
Hey if we can get that range out of this machine it would be fantastic. Thanks for the encouragement
Awesome work! Can’t wait to follow your journey and best of luck along the way 🎉
This is really neat, thanks for showing us.
Awesome content. Thats a lot of work spread around years.
Haha thanks yes it has been a long time learning
>haptic drive for synth
Sweet
This is beautiful instrument-building. You solved one of the great problems with all keyboard instruments: you can't bend :D
You also found an elegant new way to do a finicky old thing: key levers.
this is awesome! inspiring stuff, thanks for sharing!
My pleasure. Thanks for letting me know