MED MOORING MAYHEM In The Meltemi: Sailing Kythira, Greece
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- We get reminded of why we avoid Med mooring at all costs as the strong Meltemi winds approach. We make some mistakes, and some friends, as we sit out the 50 knot gusts on Kythira town quay!
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Another great, honest video. Lessons learnt in situations like that are never forgotten. You are better sailors now than before. You come across as a really calm and capable couple. Following seas and fair winds to you!
I think "Sailing Kittiwake" might be a good watch for you.
Thank you. We don't always feel calm and capable! That was a good learning experience for us though, nice to be able to share it with others. We're big fans of sailing kittiwake, and we had the pleasure of meeting up with them a few times last year. They were a massive help when we dragged anchor early on and have become good friends! We'll miss them now they've left Europe!
Best to be at anchor in bad weather in a protected bay. So many people thing tying to a quay is safer! However nothing damages a bot faster than concrete!
We have been through 2 Medicanes and winds over 80 knots on several occasions. Always out at anchor and never had damage.
Totally agree! We anchor almost exclusively now we have the right sized anchor for the boat. We feel a million times more comfortable with lots of chain and lots of space!
Med Mooring is the best and only way to moor in such conditions. That did not like the Meltemi in Kapsali bay. That looked like the NW Maistros.
Not sure what lesson you guys learnt this time as your comments were so wrong and dangerous that I started to write. I hope everything is OK with you and you have learnt the real reason of Med Mooring as such by now. Staying alongside with expected weather would have been the last mooring of your season as your boat would have been crashed to the key. For me it seems that yes you got a great spot at the end, but totally wrong approach. Putting tons of ropes out doesnt mean that you would be safe. Med Mooring is not just the reason to accommodate more boats, but mainly for the reason to not crash your boat to the townkey. It is absolutely obvious that you got to be ready for gusts over the mountains in this port, even with no Meltemi, upto 20-30kts and blowing to the key. So the only safe mooring if you want to stay at key in such situation is Med Mooring. Dont be scared to go for it. Just practice it more where possible. Sooner or later you have to do it in severe conditions with heavy sidewinds, streams and with the room for only half of your boat width. Its better to be ready for it if you want to enjoy your trips in seas with Meltemis, Boras or Mistrals.
Thanks for sharing your opinion on this. It's always good to hear the advice of others,we've learnt a lot from people with more experience than us. Obviously in sailing every situation is so different that we've found you have to do what's best for you at the time. Luckily for us this was the best course of action! The boats moored alongside on the same town quay did well too,so it was a happy outcome for everyone. Its all about getting to know your boat and crew and doing what's best for you and the others around you. I think this problem solving is one of the things we love most about living on a sailboat. Thanks again for sharing your views 😊
If you don’t feel your anchor is safe in 25 knots, you need to upgrade your ground tackle!
For sure! The anchor that came with boat was undersized and we had been trying to find a replacement without success, so we had to do the next safest thing for the boat
Look at Mantus anchor, fantastic.
We have never dragged in 8 years full time live aboard. We also stay at anchor all winter as we don't go into marinas for the winter
Hey just found your channel from a RUclips Facebook page and its grate that's me sorted for the next couple of days thank you
Thanks for watching!
Yassas. Thank you for posting the video and I'll look forward to watching more. My family spent 6 summer seasons in the Med and 5 in Greece. I can relate to your experiences and am sure as you develop your skills each year will get easier and therefore more enjoyable.
A couple of observations. First, the worst place to be in a Meltemi is on the quay. If your anchor isn't big enough to keep you from dragging, get a new one. Only use one if possible. The old saying is "If your anchor doesn't make those on the dock laugh, it's not big enough" is true. Boat's always get banged up on the quay so simply don't go there - again - worst place to be.
Second, the reason your fairlead blew was because you used a sailing line instead of a mooring line. I'm sure you know the difference. Never - ever - use a sailing line to absorb snatch loads. It will always result in damage to whatever it's connected to until something breaks. Have fun.
You're right,being on the town quay was the last place we wanted to be but actually there turned out to be some really lovely things about it! And we learnt a lot. Luckily we managed to find somewhere we could get a bigger anchor after searching all last season,so we now have something we have a lot more trust in! And interesting about the difference in lines. We always use mooring lines as our main ones but didn't realise we could do more damage using others as extras! Will def take note of this for the future!
We absolutely love Greece. It was the perfect place to spend our first season! We've learnt so much already,every day there's something new to 'take onboard'!
Such a great story. My first med moor attempt was hopeless. Yelled at in countless languages. Thought I must be the most hated sailor in the Med. only to realise, when safely moored on our second attempt, that my neighbours were actually friendly, then we all rushed to the bow to yell at the next poor sod trying to line up. 🤣 pure theatre.
Haha, yes that's exactly what it is - theatre! Sometimes we pick a cafe beside a town quay just to watch everyone shouting at each other. The best is when the fog horns come out!!
Another top vid guys! Reckon the tender belonged to the fit American girl... backfired thou dinnit 🤣🤣
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Love the bucket of rose wine Emily was necking at the post storm party! Good girl!
Haha, large for me please!
This is why now after 10 years in the Med I have 45 kilo anchor and never go alongside when it's blowing
That's interesting,why is that? I guess we don't like being near the town quay at all when it's blowing and prefer to be at anchor now we have a decent sized one!! But I have to admit our preference is still alongside if we have to come onto a town quay. Funny how every person we meet has such differing opinions on which is safer. I guess it comes down to personal experience and your own preferences/boat setup. Just like everything in sailing there are so many different options!
@@TwoGetLost I'm single handed and I go stern to on my own even step Ashore and tie off my own Lines... but when it's blowing I like to be away from everybody in a bay where I can escape trouble and runaway and run with it if I need to... And not get washed up or bashed against the Quay...
The other problem I've experienced because my anchor holds very well other boats either side of me when we are on a key break loose and end up smashing into me... And my boats 18 ton and made of Steel so not too bothered
@@iman80skid91 That's what we think, being away from the dock in high winds is always best if possible! One of the things we hate about Med mooring is the anchor being such an unknown...like you say, other people's anchors break (that's what happened to the boat beside us in this video), and with people coming and going you never know who might anchor over yours and pull you out when they leave (another thing that's happened to us and many neighbours when we've been Med moored). Alongside you have complete control, other people don't come and untie you and you can see what's going on without having to dive in the water. For us, alongside gives us way more peace of mind than Med mooring! Sounds like you have a great boat and a really strong anchoring set up!