In alabama we don’t have to title boats nor trailers, 1973 year model and up vessels require a registration sticker and must have up to a 12 digit number on each side of the hull, in theory just a bill of sale is all that is needed! We might not have state lotto or good education but we can snag abandon boats with ease, just get bubba or Becky down the street to sign it and off you are with your new resto project vessel.
Florida complains a lot about abandoned boats, but don't make the process of getting one easy in any way. There laws have to change to make the process better. I have tryed quite a few times to get abandoned boats or with out a title,but no luck. Your right about sketchy at best. The boat I came the closest to geting was a Catalina 26, I could get a title, but if the original owner wanted the boat back, I would lose all the money I would have put into it,and would have to give it back. I have seen a friend go through that and don't want to go down that road.
It is difficult for a reason friend. IF it were simplified then people would have boats stolen left and right with no real recourse to get it back. An easy process means anyone can do paperwork for just about any boat or vehicle and own it.
There is an option for a no hin small boat like that. You can do work on it like replacing the fwd deck etc and apply for a new title and hin for a home made boat. Only a small percentage needs to be home made in order for it to be legal. HOWEVER IF there is a hin or a fl number they will trace that out and you will not get it.
The HIN on 13 ft whalers is located on the inside of the boat below the dead center transom. You may have to sand down the painted on white paint. That’s an aftermarket paint so it is probably just painted over. The HIN itself is just painted on in the original Gelcoat. If the original gel coat was sanded off then you’re SOL.
My neighbour gave me an 18-5 ft hardtop boat and I had to go to a Notary Public and swear out an oath as to where I got it.Cost me $ 25.00 Canadianfor the notary.I was able to replace the stringers,floor, and transom with the help of RUclips videos.I have owned 17 boats in my 70 years and had fun fixing this one up.I did have to purchase used motors for it. In Canada it is possible to salvage boats that otherwise wind up as big litter.CHEERS
Good thing that Whaler had FL #s on it. The HIN numbers were painted on the inside of the transom on that generation. That Whaler looks like it’s been repainted, so finding the hidden number would be almost impossible if it had no FL #s.
September 13 2022 FL past a new law, any antique boat with a out of state title has to have a HIN verification by a FWC officer in order to title in FL.
In PA all you gotta do is take a photo of side and stern and mail it to the fish and boat commission and they mail the previous registered owner if there is one and they have 30 days to reclaim or it's yours with a title
Some states it's nearly impossible to transfer a boat, motor, trailer from other states. Mo. is one of those. All three components have to be titled as one or separately. Some nearby states allow Bill of Sale on trailers/outboards which you can't get titled without months/years of red tape.
I'm up in merritt island, there are moored boats in the Indian River literally capsized and sunk, at least a dozen that i know of, and they've been like that for many months, some over a year. I'm curious if FWC or local law does anything about it, most are leaking fuel, oil, and god knows what. Ive often wondered about salvaging or at least getting the boats removed for the sake of our waters.
I think with Fl having the Hurricane it would be good to do a video about how people can get some of these damaged boats if at all because we all know what the Insurance company call damaged we can are like it just needs some work
My cousin does this all the time with cars .. has a buddy at a towing yard do the same thing with the 40 days notice. He can get titles for damn near anything
I did the same thing for a jet ski trailer that I actually bought for the owner, but he didn't have the title. So, I when through the abandon trailer process. In Virginia is cost $25.00 and it's a hassle, lots of paperwork and you have to track the process, but it you want a title, it's the only way to get one.
This is very interesting video! I have had my fair share of titleless boats. Its all a crap shoot there is no guarantees. I have successfully titled 1 boat and lost 3. Those seem to be the odds.
HAving commented below I muct add. The easiest thing is to just find one that is titled.... THese are a real headache no matter what. (but at times can be very worth it).
True, massive head ache lol the home made title is a good option, but it adds another level of complication with the receipts, the forms, the weighing of the boat, etc.
Things are different in nj back in 1968 after a bad north Easter found a14 ft wooden row boat put a add in the paper saying found boat in a place and number for 30 days back then they called it maritime law
Living in Ohio anything under 14ft or motor under 10hp doesn’t require a title. Same with boat trailers, just need a weight slip. Makes finding smaller boats in other states a little easier if the owner doesn’t have the title.
Insurance companies don't auction hurricane boats. They'll auction damaged boats they've paid out for but not hurricane damaged boats. I'm waiting on all these stimulus money boats to be sold by those that discovered boating isn't just going to the water and having fun, but actual work/effort has to be done with boating and the care of one.
Wow. Not surprised though. Warm water. Nice weather (most of the time). Lots of waterfront. Most are crap. We have them in the PNW too. Dopers use them to “live on”. People just abandon them or never use them and then they rot away. That Whaler would probably be worth it if it’s free and you can get a title. Foam core. Well built. Might be good for a cheap build. Might be.
Sadly sounds painful any/all ways…I foresee finding a boat, having it towed ($), then losing when the owner decides they want it again or you get outbid in an auction…
What if I have a title, but there's no HIN listed on the title or on the vessel? I have a 1976 Bonito 16ft walk through that I purchased several years ago here in NW Florida. It needs some floor and transom work which i started on but never finished. I would like to either finish it or sell it but if I can't get FL numbers since there's no HIN listed on the vessel or title there would be no reason to do the work
True I see a lot of that here in North Carolina! For Sale you can get a “ title with my bill of sale “ now that sounds a little 😳! Too me ! Cause it’s possible could be stolen or seen people pulling boats around too different property too try and get rid of them ?
Alabama is that way. Cars and boats always come up for sale without a title they just have a bill of sale. My 16ft Bonito came from Alabama and has a title but the trailer and motor do not.
@@boominS10 Boats are difficult in my area, No Title and you can’t register it end of story. To get a Home Built title is very very difficult if not impossible.
@@davidcatlette9697 Most states that I know of require a Title. Bill of sale means nothing if you can’t show who owned the boat. Titles get lost and people (owners) die. Unfortunately there’s nothing you can do, sucks too when you come across a nice little project boat..
@@boominS10 but a trailer title is easy too get ! I had a trailer given too me and it neede work so I took it and changed the axle added a longer tongue too it ! And state issues a rebuild # ! Had too show it too a state trooper and show him numbers from state stamped on it and he signs temp title and submitted it and it’s done !
Hey, bro I got a 12 foot V Hull Aluminum john boat with FL numbers and registered 2017 And it still has the Vin the guy passed away. How can I get the title
Maybe putting a little bit of more money for a boat without these issues would me my way of preference. Too much hustle for nothing, you still having started the difficult part which is the project boat of it owns. Good info though as usual 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
@@mariaiglesias2333 Alico Road in Fort Myers next to the Hosit forklift place. They’re just tossed on the ground with no trailers. They started showing up a few days ago.
@@mariaiglesias2333 If it's like after hurricane Michael then they aren't allowed to be salvaged. The USCG does remove/pays to have them removed from where they ended up, they're taken to a place and piled up, crushed, and taken to a landfill. NOTHING is allowed to be removed from them once the USCG or their hired contractor hooks to them. A friend worked at the marina that had open lots the USCG rented to pile these vessels up. Some were even sportfisherman, doubled masted(schooner)sailboats, large valuable boats. He wanted a center console out of one similar to his but wasn't allowed by the USCG nor his employer to remove it.
It's absolutely insane how difficult they make it to salvage abandoned boats, not to mention abandoned cars. I've known several mechanics over my life and a few tow truck drivers too and they always end up with these abandoned cars that they then have to jump through a mountain of hoops to retitle and claim (even in cases where a person owes THEM money for repairs performed). Abandoned boats seem like an even worse problem. To me it should be pretty simple. If you have left your property for more than say 30 days on public waterways it should be free to claim with minimal effort (make it 60 days if you want, Hell make it 90 days if you need to). It should also be easier for people to abandon or give away boats or vehicles. A simple quit claim deed or title form generated at the tax collectors should be enough. The local government could publish announcements of boats that were signed over and allow people to come bid on them or buy them for the cost of the paperwork and processing along with making them sign paperwork obligating them to clear the vessel from any public waterways or land. The whole situation is just sheer madness. The current system incentivizes people to abandon their property AND it incentivizes them to remove registration information or HIN or VIN numbers so that the boats simply can't be traced. That's a terrible way to run the system.
No friggin way I'm doing any of that. Abandoned boats are the same as ex mother in laws. They maybe ok and can be fixed, but thank God you ain't got to anymore
In alabama we don’t have to title boats nor trailers, 1973 year model and up vessels require a registration sticker and must have up to a 12 digit number on each side of the hull, in theory just a bill of sale is all that is needed! We might not have state lotto or good education but we can snag abandon boats with ease, just get bubba or Becky down the street to sign it and off you are with your new resto project vessel.
Florida complains a lot about abandoned boats, but don't make the process of getting one easy in any way. There laws have to change to make the process better. I have tryed quite a few times to get abandoned boats or with out a title,but no luck. Your right about sketchy at best. The boat I came the closest to geting was a Catalina 26, I could get a title, but if the original owner wanted the boat back, I would lose all the money I would have put into it,and would have to give it back. I have seen a friend go through that and don't want to go down that road.
NC is similar. The process is so convoluted that it incentivizes people to ignore proper registration. They need to change the laws. It's a mess.
Michigan is like that too very hard to get a abandoned boat
In the same position right now I don’t even know what to do,
It is difficult for a reason friend. IF it were simplified then people would have boats stolen left and right with no real recourse to get it back. An easy process means anyone can do paperwork for just about any boat or vehicle and own it.
Born Again Boating !!!!! 🤔 any new content we really miss seeing your boat make overs !!!
Great information on the salvage process. Thanks for checking the time to explore it and share your findings
There is an option for a no hin small boat like that. You can do work on it like replacing the fwd deck etc and apply for a new title and hin for a home made boat. Only a small percentage needs to be home made in order for it to be legal. HOWEVER IF there is a hin or a fl number they will trace that out and you will not get it.
The HIN on 13 ft whalers is located on the inside of the boat below the dead center transom. You may have to sand down the painted on white paint. That’s an aftermarket paint so it is probably just painted over. The HIN itself is just painted on in the original Gelcoat.
If the original gel coat was sanded off then you’re SOL.
My neighbour gave me an 18-5 ft hardtop boat and I had to go to a Notary Public and swear out an oath as to where I got it.Cost me $ 25.00 Canadianfor the notary.I was able to replace the stringers,floor, and transom with the help of RUclips videos.I have owned 17 boats in my 70 years and had fun fixing this one up.I did have to purchase used motors for it. In Canada it is possible to salvage boats that otherwise wind up as big litter.CHEERS
Good thing that Whaler had FL #s on it. The HIN numbers were painted on the inside of the transom on that generation. That Whaler looks like it’s been repainted, so finding the hidden number would be almost impossible if it had no FL #s.
My money is on Florida making it totally imposible to accomplish anything logical or useful due to corruption, incompetence and laziness.
September 13 2022 FL past a new law, any antique boat with a out of state title has to have a HIN verification by a FWC officer in order to title in FL.
In PA all you gotta do is take a photo of side and stern and mail it to the fish and boat commission and they mail the previous registered owner if there is one and they have 30 days to reclaim or it's yours with a title
Some states it's nearly impossible to transfer a boat, motor, trailer from other states. Mo. is one of those. All three components have to be titled as one or separately. Some nearby states allow Bill of Sale on trailers/outboards which you can't get titled without months/years of red tape.
I'm up in merritt island, there are moored boats in the Indian River literally capsized and sunk, at least a dozen that i know of, and they've been like that for many months, some over a year. I'm curious if FWC or local law does anything about it, most are leaking fuel, oil, and god knows what. Ive often wondered about salvaging or at least getting the boats removed for the sake of our waters.
Yeah, there are wrecks everywhere up here. It's too bad former owners can't be tracked down and made responsible.
Hidden hin on Boston Whaler is under the center consul or under the consul somewhere
I think with Fl having the Hurricane it would be good to do a video about how people can get some of these damaged boats if at all because we all know what the Insurance company call damaged we can are like it just needs some work
It's a lot easier to deal with that stuff here in Alabama and pretty much salvage title anything
My cousin does this all the time with cars .. has a buddy at a towing yard do the same thing with the 40 days notice. He can get titles for damn near anything
Some also end up in prison too if they aren't absolutely square about it.
I did the same thing for a jet ski trailer that I actually bought for the owner, but he didn't have the title. So, I when through the abandon trailer process. In Virginia is cost $25.00 and it's a hassle, lots of paperwork and you have to track the process, but it you want a title, it's the only way to get one.
Here in florida, a trailer without title, We just get it weighed they give you a little paper for 10$ and you go to the DMV and get it registered.
Get it registered in Maine , look online, super easy. Just need a bill of sale.
This is very interesting video! I have had my fair share of titleless boats. Its all a crap shoot there is no guarantees. I have successfully titled 1 boat and lost 3. Those seem to be the odds.
HAving commented below I muct add. The easiest thing is to just find one that is titled.... THese are a real headache no matter what. (but at times can be very worth it).
True, massive head ache lol the home made title is a good option, but it adds another level of complication with the receipts, the forms, the weighing of the boat, etc.
Things are different in nj back in 1968 after a bad north Easter found a14 ft wooden row boat put a add in the paper saying found boat in a place and number for 30 days back then they called it maritime law
Nice video thanks again for the help on the yellowfin hose !!
Living in Ohio anything under 14ft or motor under 10hp doesn’t require a title. Same with boat trailers, just need a weight slip. Makes finding smaller boats in other states a little easier if the owner doesn’t have the title.
Im looking forward to all the insurance auctions that will happen over the next few years
Lots of flooded boats, cars & trucks. No doubt. Rife for fraud.
Insurance companies don't auction hurricane boats. They'll auction damaged boats they've paid out for but not hurricane damaged boats.
I'm waiting on all these stimulus money boats to be sold by those that discovered boating isn't just going to the water and having fun, but actual work/effort has to be done with boating and the care of one.
@@Ray56z I used that word lightly. WHOM EVERS AUCTION....!
Wow. Not surprised though. Warm water. Nice weather (most of the time). Lots of waterfront. Most are crap. We have them in the PNW too. Dopers use them to “live on”. People just abandon them or never use them and then they rot away. That Whaler would probably be worth it if it’s free and you can get a title. Foam core. Well built. Might be good for a cheap build. Might be.
A fair amount of states don't require a title to register, but those are mainly landlocked states with no real draw for recreational boaters.
I’ve been through this in Florida. It’s a lot of work.
Most states you can do a mechanics lean on it. They would issue you a new title
What exactly
Is a title for a boat? We dont have this in the uk
In FL can you title it as "homemade" ? Tell them you made it out of used parts or something ... same way you would do a home made trailer
Sadly sounds painful any/all ways…I foresee finding a boat, having it towed ($), then losing when the owner decides they want it again or you get outbid in an auction…
Nice video. Crazy how it is for you guys with that many boats around. Untouchable gold smh.
If you are going to have to put lots of work in to refit you should title it as a house made home made water craft
That was really interesting, thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Massachusetts abandon boats on the shore are considered public domain
Can you ship them to Thailand?
What if I have a title, but there's no HIN listed on the title or on the vessel?
I have a 1976 Bonito 16ft walk through that I purchased several years ago here in NW Florida. It needs some floor and transom work which i started on but never finished. I would like to either finish it or sell it but if I can't get FL numbers since there's no HIN listed on the vessel or title there would be no reason to do the work
Did you have FL numbers? Might want to call FWC to see if they can find the HIN but I think that boat may be too old to have a second HIN on the hull.
I’m in the same situation and can’t get the title,
That seems like a lot of trouble for a junk boat
Interesting video, I’ve seen many boats for sale without title.. It varies by State though getting a title in those situations
True I see a lot of that here in North Carolina! For Sale you can get a “ title with my bill of sale “ now that sounds a little 😳! Too me ! Cause it’s possible could be stolen or seen people pulling boats around too different property too try and get rid of them ?
Alabama is that way. Cars and boats always come up for sale without a title they just have a bill of sale. My 16ft Bonito came from Alabama and has a title but the trailer and motor do not.
@@boominS10 Boats are difficult in my area, No Title and you can’t register it end of story. To get a Home Built title is very very difficult if not impossible.
@@davidcatlette9697 Most states that I know of require a Title. Bill of sale means nothing if you can’t show who owned the boat. Titles get lost and people (owners) die. Unfortunately there’s nothing you can do, sucks too when you come across a nice little project boat..
@@boominS10 but a trailer title is easy too get ! I had a trailer given too me and it neede work so I took it and changed the axle added a longer tongue too it ! And state issues a rebuild # ! Had too show it too a state trooper and show him numbers from state stamped on it and he signs temp title and submitted it and it’s done !
Hey, bro I got a 12 foot V Hull Aluminum john boat with FL numbers and registered 2017 And it still has the Vin the guy passed away. How can I get the title
If it has no identification anywhere. You can claim home built.
Bro where are you all bro we need your informative videos
Maybe putting a little bit of more money for a boat without these issues would me my way of preference. Too much hustle for nothing, you still having started the difficult part which is the project boat of it owns. Good info though as usual 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
There’s a vacant lot where they’ve been piling a ton of boats from Hurricane Ian right by my office. Some of them are nice, I almost shed a tear.
Nice. Where is this at? Are they for sale? I would love to buy one.
@@mariaiglesias2333 Alico Road in Fort Myers next to the Hosit forklift place. They’re just tossed on the ground with no trailers. They started showing up a few days ago.
@@mariaiglesias2333 If it's like after hurricane Michael then they aren't allowed to be salvaged. The USCG does remove/pays to have them removed from where they ended up, they're taken to a place and piled up, crushed, and taken to a landfill. NOTHING is allowed to be removed from them once the USCG or their hired contractor hooks to them.
A friend worked at the marina that had open lots the USCG rented to pile these vessels up. Some were even sportfisherman, doubled masted(schooner)sailboats, large valuable boats. He wanted a center console out of one similar to his but wasn't allowed by the USCG nor his employer to remove it.
There’s going to be a ton of surplus boat parts flooding the market. Great time to retrofit your existing fleet.
Thank you all. Excellent information. What a shame they are not allowed to be put to good use. Stay safe.
And???? So what happened with the Whaler…
It's absolutely insane how difficult they make it to salvage abandoned boats, not to mention abandoned cars. I've known several mechanics over my life and a few tow truck drivers too and they always end up with these abandoned cars that they then have to jump through a mountain of hoops to retitle and claim (even in cases where a person owes THEM money for repairs performed). Abandoned boats seem like an even worse problem.
To me it should be pretty simple. If you have left your property for more than say 30 days on public waterways it should be free to claim with minimal effort (make it 60 days if you want, Hell make it 90 days if you need to). It should also be easier for people to abandon or give away boats or vehicles. A simple quit claim deed or title form generated at the tax collectors should be enough. The local government could publish announcements of boats that were signed over and allow people to come bid on them or buy them for the cost of the paperwork and processing along with making them sign paperwork obligating them to clear the vessel from any public waterways or land.
The whole situation is just sheer madness. The current system incentivizes people to abandon their property AND it incentivizes them to remove registration information or HIN or VIN numbers so that the boats simply can't be traced. That's a terrible way to run the system.
20 TO 30 years ago abandoned boats were way more common than now
Too much drama, and there's as u said over 1000 dumped boats in Florida, a lot more after Hurricane Ian😭
You put your seat belt on the wrong buckle 😂
Or you can just bye a boat off the insurance company
Do you know anyone who'd want to buy a 1987 seaswirl Topaz sport
The hardest part is convincing the wife why we need one.
No friggin way I'm doing any of that. Abandoned boats are the same as ex mother in laws. They maybe ok and can be fixed, but thank God you ain't got to anymore
Looks like a 1/2 boat lol
Title kings
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