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All HVAC scammers must hate you for all that information you providing to all of us .Thank you very much .George Z
I sincerely wish the Hvac scammers would ALL get proper training, and become quality companies, sadly, they can scam, and charge a fortune, as we quality companies don’t have the resources to serve everybody.
@whochecksthis
There needs to be more or better laws in place. Maybe certified.
It's bad. I am a smart diyer and trying to find a hvac company that actually knew there stuff was hard. I am in a hot climate.. so we are flooded with hvac companies.
Just no reason I should have the problems I end up with. I look bad as a customer because I am fishing. I am sure I have lost a couple good companies because of that. I get it.. it's annoying. But so is shitty work that I need a company to come back 6+ times or I have to fire and hire someone else.. or learn it myself and do it myself.
I look back at 100year old houses that are still solid. Then look at modern houses that don't last more than 30 before they are beyond repair.
I guess there were swindlers then.. just damn!
Yea, we hate losing cheapskate price shoppers. LMFAO. I have owned my company for 35 years and have filtered my customers down to the ones that pay immediately, the ones that let me in their home anytime with either a key or garage door code.
@@anthonyspadafora1384 Brother Anthony, interesting comment you give here. But I gotta ask, when you do go to your "easy-to-get-along with customers," and once you're inside, how do you interact with all they're cute little Pets though?
You bet they do. Hopefully a few more guys like this on the internet will put the crooks out of business. They will have to go back to stealing hub caps.
A few yrs ago the house I bought had just installed a complete system, believe me EVERYTHING was replaced & contractor did a good turn-key job. It cost the owner totally $15,000. Having background in real estate ownership and maintenance, I can tell you that I could have saved about $7000 simply doing what this video recommends. I wholeheartedly recommend ANYONE who sees a need for new air conditionin to subscribe to this channel & learn the HVAC basics and hopefully more. Just like automotive knowledge and maintenance, a majority of our nation’s population knows virtually nothing about HVAC stuff. Knowledge is a powerful thing!
My contractor gave me three options based on efficiency and price, Trane and Reem. I choose Trane and have no regrets, my electric consumption was reduced by 20%. I am very happy,
Did you notice the SEER number of each unit? SEER numbers tell you the efficiency of the units. My Amana is SEER 19, and we get lower electricity costs compared to lower SEERs.
We have a Goodman in our home for the last 5 years, zoned with 3 separate thermostats. Never a minutes trouble and always extremely cold in the summer. GREAT UNITS! Over 5000 sq feet with temp set at 72 the average electric bill runs around 225 a month.
I have Goodman 3,floors, 3,units. Are you running 1 unit @5000 sqft?
Was able to walk in off the street and buy Durastar (Furgeson Plumbing’s Reem rebrand). Small gas furnace only, no AC for $900. The lowest quote we got here in Seattle to do the job was $8500. Thanks to your videos, I replaced it myself last summer!
Anyone with a sound combination of Mechanical, Plumbing, Electrical and Tin Smithy fundementals can do these jobs. However, I sure hope that you had a Pro Furnace Contractor come in to do a full inspection for, 1) Correct sizing of furnace to the house. 2) check for correct "gas certified" teflon tape/dope used as you never use white plumbing teflon! 3) Test for gas/fuel leaks. 4) Proper venting both fresh make up air and flue exhaust. 5) Emissions leakage around the furnace and ducting.
Never fail to do these things! 👍👍
I think your 8500 was including the whole system or 95afu
@@blondestrainger On the Eastern Shore of Maryland, they are charging 16 K for a 3 ton AC replacement, lineset and coils. A total rip off, yet people pay it. I have also seen proposals for 20K , AC, gas furnace and coil. Somebody is making some cash!
@@warningsigns4526YUP! HVAC can be such a racket!
My Goodman is going strong after 24 years!
todays goodman compressors actually shake the outside screen apart
@@rockridgefarms 😬
My mother in las lasted 18 years and her 3 ton unit and air handler was replaced 2 years ago for $3700 , Del Air in FL is charging people $12,000
Oh thats good to hear. Mine is 12 years old this year. I am hoping it will last for several more years.
KISS. Goodman is "contractor" grade because it doesn't have all the bells and whistles. I put one in my mom's house with a basic 4 time 7 day thermostat. She runs it under time of use electric plan. It's been running perfectly for 17 years now. My neighbor bought dual Lennox units with all the bells and whistles, fancy thermostat, variable speed compressor, etc. Installed by the #1 company in our city. The A/C company has been out 7 times in 2 years so far.
My niece had the same problem you mention in the house she recently bought. It had a 2 year old Goodman system with a leak that "couldn't be found". After around 6 service visits, the "technician" finally put a stop leak product in it. It still leaked after that. My brother yanked out the POS and installed a new Rheem AC and gas furnace (the furnace was old). She's had no problems since.
Luckily I have a good HVAC guy who genuinely cares to help people. I can tell you are the type who likes to help people as well. Thank you
About 4 years ago, my small HVAC Contractor replaced my existing 2 Goodman units. 2 new Goodman units. We put a package unit downstairs and a split 96% gas furnace with 16 seer AC. We increased the upstairs unit by a ton. All for $11,500. After it was installed, I decided to create a network with 3 zones. It was a fun project! I am saving tons with energy efficient units. We are empty nesters and it is great cranking up the AC. Our first set of Goodmans could have lasted another 3 years. I had them for 22 years. I had the money and decided to do under my terms. My son is in HVAC in another state and he talks about units lasting 10-12 years.
The best thing to do is purchase a case of each filter size you use and set your phone to remind you every 90 days to change the filters. Wash the coils at the compressor with some dawn and a pump sprayer let it soak and was it gently. Before washing vacuum the leaves inside the compressor.. I totally agree dust is a killer of HVAC units. I also agree a good installer makes a huge difference! Especially the line sets. We use the existing one because it never leaked. One last thing, if you get it repaired stand and watch the tech. Some of these guys are thieves. If the tech wants you to see the salesman run! It’s a scam!
You bought Goodman lol. You get what you pay for.
Goodman had a bad run 10-20 years ago, now they produce much better products.
@@josephross8305 Not sure what World you live on. A majority of shit that fails are cheap ass Goodman and LG units.
I did apartment maintenance for 25+ years and they typically buy Goodman. Back in the 80's Goodman was owned by the Square D corporation and they were a really good basic A/C. But like so many of the cheap brands they're owned by foriegn companies. I'm retired now and recently had to replace my home A/C. I chose Trane and stick by it. I recommend Trane to anyone who ask me what brand to buy.
Goodman is now owned by Daikin. I installed 2 Goodman systems when I remodeled my house in California. One was a 70,000 BTU Goodman furnace with a 2 ton refrigeration unit, and a 140,000 BTU Coleman branded 80% furnace with a 4 ton refrigeration unit. My neighbor’s son was a distributor, so it cost $1800 in 1989 for all the equipment.
Learned so much from this free video alone. I can only imagine how good the HVAC training videos are. Thanks so much!
I have Lennox heating/AC system, going on 20 years, never have had a problem. Of course, like any other expensive home repair or upgrade, I absolutely dread the time my system will need replacing - not only will it be 10 times the cost of my current system, but also with longevity not even close to what my system has had up to now.
FYI - this Fall (2024), there will be new refrigerant based AC system (all brands in US market, thanks to our EPA) and all current models will be no longer be sold any where. There will be approx. 20% increase in HVAC cost that will be passed on to customers. If you have an old system on its last leg, you may want to purchase a system now.
@@jwb1227 No you were saying that there would be a new refrigerant based AC system, if you get a system with this refrigerant will you be able to get if if needed in the future??
@@paulrobilotti9294 Short answer is YES. You can still get R410a refrigerant in the future even after R32 and R454b based AC systems become the new standard in the industry. The R410a is still manufactured but the yearly limit on production is reduced every year to phase out gradually as older R410a AC systems go out of service and newer AC systems are put into service. The biggest thing you can do is make sure the INSTALL is done properly. When ACs get less than 10 years of use, the usual cause is due to improper install and lack of yearly maintenance (filter change mostly). With normal routine maintenance, your AC should not have a leak. I have a 38 year old Carrier AC system running on R22 refrigerant and it is running fine (of course they built them to last back in the day... not any more). Only thing changed was the condenser fan motor and start/run capacitor. You can still get new OEM replacement motors and parts for them from Granger and Carrier. The new systems are built to provide you generally 14-18 years on average before having to replace. That is why I am taking care of my AC until the wheels fall off. I already got return on investment from it 3 times over and counting.
Back in the 80’s and 90’s, Lennox and York made pretty good equipment. Now, I wouldn’t sell a pile of York to my worst enemy. Lennox seems to have leaking coil issues. My Lennox A/C lasted 29 years and probably would have lasted longer if the installer had put a filter-drier on the liquid line.
@@paulrobilotti9294 Yes. I have a 38-year old R22 based AC system from Carrier and R22 is still available. There is even R427A which was developed as a modern replacement for R22. So, the current R410A refrigerant will be available for many years by that same logic.
As a former HVAC business owner, you are offering good advice, and you are right on with your brand recommendations and advice about hiring an HVAC contractor. Way to Go!!!
And to think, they call our state the "Free State"..
brand new goodman 4 ton 14seer purchased and installed for $4,900, 10 yr warranty parts, 7 year labor warranty, central air heat pump/ac and air handler, ocala, fla
Who did you buy it from?
I just had a system cleaning i asked for a quote on a ac and heater they quoted me $9500! Im glad i saw your video thanks.
I was sweating I replaced my furnace about 9 months and its a Rheem. After watching this great video I feel better.
I have a Rheem series 80 from 1984 and it still works great. I dread the day the heat exchanger burns through, which could be any time, I suppose. It didn't get installed until 1989, but that's still 35 years old! Got my money's worth.
I just put in a Rheem 3 days ago. Whew.
My son was quoted 48,000 thousand, I. Albuquerque NM. , to remove gas furnaces, install two new units with refrigeration.
My son and I got it all done for 12,000
I live in ABQ not surprised, typical..
@paulleos 162 that initial price is a way of saying "we do not want your business".
I have always said..no matter the brand..as long as you get it installed properly.
Before I retired I was an energy consultant for residential homes. I never peaked out my system but I did get up to 40,000 cu. ft. @ ton of cooling. I worked with the framers, insulators, HVAC, and I did a caulking package on the home. I blower door tested each home twice. 1st time when the insulators finished (they were still on the job site) and 2nd when the home was finished. I only used either variable speed or multi speed HVAC systems. I also installed ERV's (in my area). 70,000 cu.ft homes heating and cooling with 30,000 Btu's. Less than 1 degree temp difference from basement and main floor. This was done in SW MO.
Kenhurley4441 Brother Ken, very informative comment you make here Good Sir! And in "Southwest Mizzou?" Absolutely GORGEOUS part of da country for sure! Might talk myself into living up that way in the future. (ps: Plus, during the "War-Between-The-States," that part of Missouri was um, part of our glorious South too!)
who cares old man. come out to south texas and lets see how good you are.
@@notlisted-cl5ls if you're building a new home I'll be your energy consultant for free!
Thanks! I know I need to evacuate my drain from what you presented, and I did not know how best to do this.
I live in Canada and this guy is spot on,10 grand thumbs 👍and my guy installed a Rheem
Which website did you buy your Rheem?
@@alfred672 my local HVAC contractor did all the work .. btw if you register your Rheem online you receive a ten year warranty
My AC Contactor charges 5k for a complete 2ton air package system including the lineset, drainline and return duct... He is a Mom and Pop Operator. I don't think I could do it cheaper than what he charges.
I am enjoying using this guy as long as possible. The Bigger Companies want arount 8 to 10k for the same setup.
2.5 ton Rudd and furnace blower for 8.5k 2 k rebate makes it 6.5 said do it !
You are very fortunate!!!
I have an A/C contractor, old guy who now just does it for fun as he's semi retired. I sent him to my friend who's A/C was on the fritz. He went there, replaced the capacitor ( a very common, simple problem) checked the whole unit out and charged him $280 for the trip, labor and parts.
Anyone else would have charged my friend $3,000 or more.
Had a Rheem A/C and 90% efficiency furnace installed back in 2002 and still going strong. It was suggested by the HVAC contractor, (had a Lennox furnace and A/C unit) and when the time comes for new units, wouldn't hesitate for another Rheem.
I already have the basic knowledge for repairing car AC. Recently bought a Goodman (Daikin made) mini split for the shop. Got new gauges for R410, adapter, flare tool, bender, micron gauge. Got everything connected and pulled vac for an hour, and we were in business. The information is out there and it’s free, thanks to great guys like these and their content.
Yeah, but it is a Goodman. 😢
Lol...go to your local pawn shop...there's tons of A/C tools in them. My friend figured out how simple car A/C were, so we went there, and he bought the gauges, a suction pump etc, everything... registered himself as a business for tiny bucks, got a tax exempt number so he could buy A/C freon and did his car, his old van, a neighbor's car and his friends car.
@@j.t.4299 Well? Actually GOODMAN is a pretty solid make. Wouldn't have bothered me to have a GOODMAN installed, but since I live over on the central east-coast of Florida, plus my house is something like 250yds from da Atlantic Ocean, I had a very good HVAC fellow install an AMERICAN STANDARD-System just about 14 years ago - no problems either. Only reason why I didn't get a GOODMAN? Because my installer advised me that GOODMANs sometimes don't perform very well too close to da Ocean.
A lot of companies won’t install what you buy. I ran into that with a mini split and ended up installing it myself. Check with an installer before you buy.
Allot of times you can find a tech and ask him to do side work...that's how I got into doing my own stuff
check your warranty to these on line will advertise 10 year warranty but when you go to get parts the distributor will go where did you buy that at??? we have no record of you purchasing it here.... oh well you'll have to send the parts back to them.... call the distributor in your locality who distributes the brand your going to by and ask..... otherwise you maybe waiting for day's or weeks to get parts....
@@garyo8546 the 10 year warranty ain't shit....the ac contractor will still charge you a ton to do the work. In my case, I've learned how to do most of the work so if I have to buy a compressor....it comes out cheaper since I'm doing the work.
I had to replace a blower motor once because they use that variable speed crap so I just bought the whole box and installed it. Was totally worth it.
I ran into the same thing.
@@davidlindgren7605 there's always a tech that will do side work...ALWAYS. Just pay him well.
Great video as usual. I followed your advice last year and too the initiative to get my cert. I’m in compressed gas business and now I feel better equipped to answer questions from my industrial customers regarding refrigerants and regulations. Also now I can buy refrigerant and maintain my own refrig levels over time should I need too.
Thanks! Looking forward to variable education, including types of homes and electrical needs for new variable installs.
LOVE the chart with the manufacturers and their off-brand products. Thanks!
Great info from your video's. I bought my house in 2010 and it has a westinghouse single stage split system I only replaced a capaitor 1 time and never payed for maintenance so I figuard I have saved about 1500 dollars minimum. And at the high cost for HVAC I will install myself after online purchase of Rheem or Ruud equipment. I don't see any independent HVAC in Reno NV. And with all the scams HVAC installers pull who can you trust.
Great advice Dave 👍🧡 Congrats on the launch of learning center! We are one of the few premier HVAC contractors willing to help DIYer in Dallas, TX and surrounding cities.
Awesome man. Kudos to you guys. Shoot me an email, I’d love to hear your story. Diyhvacguy@gmail.com
Cheers
I am in North Dallas - diyer need some help with my compressor.
All this info is amazing! I didn't know half the stuff he said and I am so greatful. HVAC guys are up charging so much its impossible to get units replaced.. I'm joining today!!!
larger companies won't install systems that they didn't sell you .. I'll tell you one thing the Carrier vs Bryant i know for sure is all about the amount of units a contractor sells.. Carrier will only give Carrier units to contractors that sell a lot.. I don't think you can buy a full carrier system unless you're a preferred dealer
I'm a carrier dealer, we put in carrier and Payne, but we're not allowed to put in Bryant, because that's what we chose when we started with carrier. We were starting to put in Lennox but they would only sell us the merit low units and none of the premium Signature units until we sold $100,000 of the merit systems. It was super dumb, Carrier will sell you any level of Carrier as long as your a contractor.
I actually found a really good independent contractor on C.L. of all places. I try to stay away from the guys with the fleet of matching vans.
@@Blilar yeah none of that makes sense and the fact they even have different brands of products like that. If one was a commercial line and the other residential then that might be understandable but all of this seems scammy. You are confirming what I said happens but for you it happened with Lennox not Carrier.. maybe in the case I talked about it was the market that guy was in had too many carrier dealers and they wanted to keep him on bryant i don't know and only carrier knows i guess.. that company is not the best company anyway.. made in Mexico.. i don't mind made in Mexico but not at the expense of America. can't trust anyone i guess
@@zippythechicken I bet that was it, his Carrier market was probably full, here we're overrun by Lennox.
I have a 10 year old Duane system. Made by Lennox. Have no problems with it. Caveat I take care of it. And that is with the installer was a hack and had to come back and rebraze the copper lines twice cuz he sucked. But still running good!
dude seriously this is 2024 there has to be a way to make screw/bolt on connectors that doesn't require silver brazing. They can make those connectors on Automotive and cars are subject to all kinds of vibration.. it just seems like another scam doesn't it.. so you can't fix your own products.... like making cellphone batteries require surgery instead of popping out like they did for so long.. difference is they gain access to your phone and can view all your files and accounts. phones are getting bigger and bigger now they can't say its about saving space.
100% agree! a contractor you can trust, that has installed systems leak free and remain leak free for minimum of 5 years. I am in Memphis Tn and 25% of the work I do is fix the leaks that other contractors either create, leave in place or ignore. Its disturbing.
"Does not matter how good the equipment is, if it is poorly installed " - very important. Undersized duct work is a real issue.
Oversized filters on the air return is a great idea. Proper wiring as systems are getting more complicated.
Great Information, Thank You very much for taking the time to educate us
Thanks for all your help ❤😊
$10,000. On Average? Thats a Joke !!! I was quoted by a A/C company that i have been using for 10 years for service on both my units. To Replace The Outside Unit and the Coil Only $15,556.00. And For that price it does not include the furnace !!! That price represents 1 UNIT only !!! On 6/26/23.!!! Needless to say i purchased the equipment my self and the equipment cost me a tad under $5,000 14 Seer Goodman with Coil
Yep my neighbor here in Ft Myers Florida just paid 15k for a 4ton new unit. I about collapsed when he told me.
Good luck to the homeowners trying to install their own central air. You will be calling a tech before to long.
Not to mention, your warranty is void unless installed by a licensed contractor.
@Jfrieshvac Who cares about warranty if you can install the system yourself (you can, it's not that hard) for $2,000 😂 My first AC unit was installed by a contractor for $1,450 CAD all-in back in 2006. The latest one I had put in to our brand new house bought in 2013 cost me $3,300 installed again by a contractor. Paying anymore than that is criminal gouging, period.
@@Hvaclife83 Was not that complicated !! Me and my sons watched a bunch of youtube vids and took our time we had couple of problems that we overcame and its been 10 months the A/C is nice and cold and the Heat nice and toasty. Plus to save $10,000.00 by doing it myself, i'll take my chances on the warranty!!
I had a little Trane unit installed in my new house in 2003. I lost a capacitor and the compressor oil heating unit (rusted out) maybe 15 years later, had them replaced and then it soldiered on for a total service life of 21 years (2024) when the compressor was deemed unserviceable. Air handler was still working great.
We installed Goodman units in a school, one section of it for temporary service, ended up being in there several years, those units worked superbly! No maintenance except for filter changes! Goodman is an excellent product!
I helped my brother choose a replacement 4 ton heat pump to replace a 4 ton R-22 based AC + propane furnace in the Houston area. Propane has become extremely expensive; they are in a rural area without natural gas available. Heat pump is a great solution for them. We got the system online - then spent MONTHS trying to find a company in the Houston area that would install it. No takers. I had a friend in the DFW area (4 hour drive away) who is an independent HVAC contractor come down to do the install; had to pay for his gas, hotel, meals and travel expenses. Just be aware - it can be very difficult to find an installer.
This is exactly what I was just explaining to him no company will installed a online purchased because of the liabilities
Yeah it's kind of rude, that's like bringing a raw steak to a restaurant, and telling them to cook it, because you don't want to pay the $100 price on the menu. There's a whole lot more than just parts or raw materials. As a contractor, why would you want to go install some cheap brand equipment that you're totally not familiar with, and missing all kinds of other pieces like wiring, thermostat, drain piping, fittings, duct transitions, pad, disconnect, whip. There's tons of other small things besides just buying the main equipment
I think many customers like me wouldn't mind paying reasonable honest hard work cost to well skilled knowledgeable hands on reliable contractors. The problem is when you get ripped off thousands of dollars by the low life SOB that take advantage of customers that have no knowledge of HVAC systems or don't want to do the work themselves for various reasons
It's because they get pissed off that you took away a HUGE profit margin. I've been called a scab and some other choice words once I learned I could buy new equipment online so....I learned how to do the monkey work and do all my own rentals. I've saved so much bypassing the clowns.
@@brnmcc01goodman is cheap? Trane run trus are cheap? Mr. Cool is cheap?
What I find funny is that only a few companies manufacture the coils, blower motors and computer boards...I think the ol AC units are basically engineered with mostly off the shelf components and installed into boxes made by the brand you are purchasing. I think it pisses you off that you can't phuq someone out of THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS and pay for your lifted 80k truck. Those little things you speak of...ain't that big of a deal. How much is a roll of thermostat wire? How bout that whip? Not much buddy....good try though.
I have a twelve year old Rheem AC and am on my third evaporator coil, the third one being a parts-only warranty replacement that cost over $1000 in labor to install.
Rheem has always had leaky evaporator coils
Love the videos Dave! I’m getting ready to diy a aciq heat pump and run it dual fuel with a gas furnace. Learning a lot from your videos, thank you! I already contribute to you patreon but am looking to step up to get additional advice. Thanks again for the help you give us diy’ers!
We replaced both of our late 80's vintage Trane air handlers and heat pumps (our home has two systems) about 3 years ago. We replaced them with Trane equipment, and have been very pleased. For both air handlers and both heat pumps it was just under $10K. If they hold up as well as the 30+ year old units they replaced, I'll be happy.
I purchased a Goodman HVAC system 3 years ago (pretty much a shoe-in replacement for my 30 year old system).
I used my HVAC tech/ friend's account at the local Johnstone Supply and paid $2800 + tax, complete.
(quotes I received for turn-key contractor replacement costs to me ranged from $6K to $7K) not terrible but this was really an easy job for just about anyone...
I did the fit-up, plenum work, wiring, copper runs myself. I then hired my friend for 3 hours to check my work and help me with the final tie-in...brazing, vacuum, pressure test, freon charge etc. I paid him $300.
Some friend, huh?...and, well, I do give him lots of HVAC referrals from my RE client base thus, we take care of each other.
PIECE OF CAKE, LOL
Replaced my system 5 years ago Amana cost about $8k for 16 Ser . works ok; wish I saw this then . Think they made about 50% in 3-4 hours Got screwed live and learn
Does your course help to become a contractor?
The bigger problem with oversizing equipment is in cooling mode you don't dehumidify the air enough, so you end up with cold and clammy air, and in heat mode you will get constant hot and cold swings as the heat shuts off before the structure and contents warm up. (Thermal inertia.)
I will tell you a story about over sizing, when my home was being built 1998 in a development we were given the option to put in a high efficiency furnace 95% & AC for extra, we did it, years latter a friend who had his own Heating/AC business when fixing my furnace said to my I had a furnace that was to big for my home 125K BTU, home 2,600 sg ft, I was like really this is what the builder put in. That is my story
People always warn you off of oversizing, but remember that a properly sized AC is designed to provide a 20ºF drop from outside air temps.
If it's 103º outside you won't enjoy it if your AC can't pump out air cooler than 80º or so.
@@VideoArchiveGuy That's what happened to my sister's new built home. She found out about the 20degree thing. Since we lived in Louisiana and it regularly gets over 100 degrees she put in one 50% over the size they were going too. Still staying cool 😎
Thank you for all your help my AC works perfectly !!
I had a Goodman HVAC system installed in 1990. It was called Janitrol then. Cost was 2300 dollars installed. It is still working good.
My experience has been that If you shop around and buy privately, most HVAC contracting firms will either refuse to do the installation since they didn't sell it, they won't warranty the installation and or the product. It's the same as with Auto maintenance repair!
And by the way, as you mention that the same company such as Carrier having products under multiple brand names is just like GMC and Chevrolet. Both GM identical products but branded separately.
Anyone else remember when GM, Oldsmobile, Chevrolet, Buick and Pontiac and maybe more were all separate entities and until GM bought each of them out?
this comment needs to be upvoted before this content creator tricks people into thinking buy your own equipment is a good idea...
That's true of firms that advertise on TV, radio and mail fliers. But they are generally the expensive companies that try to up sell you to pay their marketing expense.
If you want to do this you need to be creative in finding a contractor. Ask on Nextdoor or out in the rest of your community if anyone is an independent HVAC licensed contractor, works for a firm but does side jobs, or has used an independent person they like.
That’s bullshit. You can go to any hvac contractor that runs his own truck and they’ll be happy to install a new unit. Stop gaslighting people.
@@rhyfelwrtherwyn1070 🤷♂🤷♂ And you know that absolutely for sure since you know personally all of the 7,500 installers across the country. Right? And on top of that, you haven't even highlighted whom you're speaking to or any of their individual comments. You're like a man standing on a street corner on a Sunday morning talking to yourself. 😜 🤣🤣
@@rhyfelwrtherwyn1070 I did just that 6 years ago. I found a small business but he wasn't pleased to do it once on site. It is impossible to find someone.
So your point is: Don’t worry about the brand, focus on the install? I could not agree more.
In upgrading the HVAC in my house, the hardest part was finding a “contractor” who was willing to do a professional job. Sadly, I was unable to find one willing to manage the entire job and wound up acting as a general contractor myself.
Let me explain:
I was a fully licensed / bonded electrical contractor. I had partnered with several other trades, including an HVAC contractor. Our work was primarily light commercial. As such, I learned what a “proper” install was. I also had relationships that allowed me to call upon other trades as needed. For example, if I needed a slab poured I had someone to call; if I needed something fabricated, I had two sheet metal shops that would fabricate as needed.
To my amazement, NONE of the HVAC companies in my area had any means of providing a concrete slab for anchoring the unit or providing a protective cage. NONE of them were willing to get under the house to run the condensate drain (I guess they planned to dump the water into the crawl space). None had any interest in running the line set in the shortest, most direct manner, or supporting and protecting it in any way. Don’t get me going on their proposed “electrical” work. None were interested in pulling the necessary permit and inspection.
Heck, none even checked the availability of the equipment I wanted. At the time, there were major “supply chain” issues.
I eventually did half the work myself, bringing in a guy from two states over to make the connections and replace the ducts.
What I had to do myself included:
- Perform all calculations;
- Purchase and provide ALL equipment;
- Pour the slab;
- Run the line set;
- Wrap / protect the line set;
- Construct the protective cage;
- Run the drain line;
- Replace the access door; and,
- Provide the necessary electrical work.
I just purchased a 36,000 BTU Mitsubishi mini split. Trane-American Standard have teamed up With Mitsubishi. I purchased it through a commercial Trane account. I’ve worked out the installation with a certified/registered installer of Trane/Mitsubishi since it comes with a 10 years parts/labor. It cost more than a Chinese knock brand like Pioneer, Mr. Cool. Mitsubishi has an excellent reputation for quality and reliability for the long term.
Both of my AC units are Trane and I've very pleased with them. Yes, they were expensive, but they are quiet and very efficient. I live in central Florida, so they get a workout. Trane won't allow installers unless they approve them, which goes a long way to ensuring they are installed properly and reliably.
10 years ago I did a full replacement of my furnace and AC with Lennox, put in by a small local outfit. The sales guy named a price that was lower than everyone else and said the parts warranty was 10 years and I only had to pay labor, after the original full warranty was up.
I decided to shoot for the moon and I asked the guy if I could add labor warranty and how much it would be. He said sure, and with them, apparently it wasn't set in stone because I haggled it to $150. It was written into the contract too, 10 years parts and labor covered. I was amazed, didn't know you could ask for that.
So OF COURSE it hasn't needed a single thing in 10 years. I wash the coils every year and it has one of those 5 inch 1 year filters but I change it every 6 months because the installer told me no matter what a filter says, change it twice as often. I looked inside with my flashlight after 10 years of changing that filter every 6 months and it's clean as a whistle inside.
Hoping for many more years of service.
You lucked out. I had issues with my system shortly after install. I've had the same issue every year since I had it installed, which was 12 years ago. They have come out to "fix" it at least once every year. They've replaced so many parts, some covered, some not covered. Nothing has ever fixed it.
Most people don't understand this, and A/C system in your house, car whatever, is a closed system and should last for 100 years, IF the gaskets, seals and stuff like that stand up or are not made in China. A recharge of 1/4 # of refrigerant every 7 or so years due to minute leakage around the seals should make it last at least for 60 years.
@@mutteringmale how do you know when it needs 1/4# of refrigerant? Mine doesn't ice up and easily hits whatever temp I set it for. Once the kid set it for 67 when it was over 100 outside and it pulled the whole house down without a struggle. Obviously thats not a normal thing we do but i was curious what the signs would be that more refrigerant is needed.
I’ve had a Lennox for 24 years with minimal service. In my other home I’ve had a Tempstar for 20, again with minimal service.
@@danwake4431 No signs. It's a very gradual thing over years. You don't notice it and only when you think about it and think "It used to be a lot colder".
1/4 to 1/2 # is nothing, and the only way to tell is with good gauges. It's just a maintenance thing. But when it's down 2# or more you can tell.
Problem is the law is strict and if you determine that "the unit is leaking freon into the air" that's another whole kettle of rotten sardines.
A good A/C guy will just top it off, a bad one will tell you he can't "top it off" and you have to get a whole new system.
I have in my house HVAC Goodman brand 3.5 ton unit installed in the year 2013. I have not done any maintenance other than replacing air filter. One thing I noticed is the sheet metal they use is of thinner gage for the furnace. This perhaps reduces the weight of the unit but looks flimsy.
In Lawton Oklahoma estimates for multiple different rent houses were 15 thousand minimum up to 25.000. of course I purchased the exact same unit online and installed it myself new electrical new thermostat and wiring new plenum. HVAC cabinet rebuilt. New lines brazed and charged myself. $6400 total
Boy last year we had our heat pump replaced in our small home and it was 20K. Ten years ago we had the same installed for the first time for 5K. Amazing the price. Tucson, Arizona Lennox
My current system was installed in the summer of 1997 when my home was built. It is a 4 ton Intertherm/nordyne system and is still operating. I replaced the capacitor 3 times and the evaporator coil once due to a leak. I will buy a new system this year before the new refrigerant system becomes mandatory and the 410a systems will no longer be sold. I also will buy a couple jugs of 410a and store it for future use. I am fortunate to live in a rural area and have a lot of outdoor storage and can do this. From what I am told the new refrigerant for next year contains propane and all sorts of safety sensors and evacuator fans will be necessary in the event of a leak since the propane is flammable. The EPA has been sticking it to the people for several decades now and there is no relief in sight.
Yup. My guy told me the same thing. My unit is more than 20 years old. Getting a new one this year. He told me he stocked up on the old ones already so I won't have to buy bidens garbage.
My Ruud is 27 years old and has never been touched. 13 SEER and works great
Mikejaquith9075 Brother Mike, that is awesome! I didn't know RUUD had that kind of quality - good for you my man! But I gotta ask this: Does your "RUUD-System" sometimes ever insist on being impolite (as in "rude") to you & your family? Like make interrupting and funny sounding noises (as in LOUD burps and farts) when it shouldn't?
I’m having a complete Rheem system installed in my house today. Replacing my 22 year old Carrier system, it made it 20 yrs without any problems but the last 2 yrs have been one problem after another, both the furnace and AC.
I installed a Montgomery Ward furnace back in 1979 in my home and it ran until I upgraded to a 96% Carrier in 2013. Never had a problem with that MW furnace.
They were made by Rheem. I used to service them. Installed a Rheem in my house 20years ago. I've had only evap. drain pan rust out two years ago. I'm seriously doubt you'll find a HVAC company to install your equipment you've bought.
A couple of things. I have installed hundreds of furnaces over the last 27 years because a good share of them were top tier Carrier Infinity units which had failed because their DC variable speed blower motors were too expensive to replace a third time, or because the secondary heat exchanger plugged up as the interior metal scale sloughed off. Your photo showed a Lennox, and you skirt the lawsuit which happened 25 years ago where EVERY customer was given the option to have their furnace replaced or have the heat exchanger replaced at Lennox's expense, because the original solder was found compromised in SOME Pulse furnaces circa 1981. Pulse was a revolutionary idea but noisy. That callback was in my opinion way beyond what they needed to do but it is a testimony of what a great company needs to do to keep their good reputation. However, I can tell you as well that you are correct in saying that the lower contractor brands are about the same as the name brands they come from. The components and interior layout are usually interchangeable. What I notice most is that the paint or finish is different. A top tier unit will look good years longer, sitting in the sun compared to their contractor siblings which are dull, faded and often rusting. If that is of concern then buy top tier. And speaking of looks, a good HVAC contractor will have the sheetmetal experience to make a professional looking job inside your house that the typical DIYer is unable to pull off. But hey, if you can save the money and it is down in a basement next to the kitty litter box then go ahead!
Well said sir!
He's very disingenuous bringing up a Lennox lawsuit but not brining up all of the other ones like Goodman/Amana and Bryant/Carrier. All of these companies suck in one way or another. Just like any other major appliance.
I am sorry but for him to imply a Goodman is a possibly quality product indicates to me what kind of person they are. I used to install Lennox 22 plus years ago it was a great product. When I started my business I switched to Armstrong and been selling that for 22 years. In that time frame the service issues on our installs is pretty much non existent. Service issues that are present are due to the fact that the home owner thinks maintenance is not required. Also pathetic. Past the pulse and that Complete heat product Lennox had YEARS AGO the product line in my professional opinion is bullet proof. Telling people to buy equipment off line and someone will simply install it again I do not know a reputable contractor that wants that reputation either. Ethan I agree with your comments though and well written too. Nice job.
Yep. I had a Pulse , first generation, and they provided a new furnace to me on warranty after 16 years.
what about rheem ruud leaking indoor coils lawsuit???? i got screwed on that one in the 2011-2014 era... put in 30 of the package units (rqpm/ rqrm/) 14 and 16 seer dedicated horizontal discharge units went back and replaced about 28 of the coils over the 10 year period all on my nickel .. some i did twice over the 10 year period.. customers were like GOD you said they were good units...yea , yea , don't worry about it,,,,,,, i'll take care of it ... still seeing leaking indoor coils from split's from that brand.....
Have had a new lennox system for almost 4 years, not one issue works great, best investment I ever made
I had full Lennox system installed in dec 21, in a home I purchased, Chose them because costco uses them exclusively.. Then months later I found out about the DARK past of the AC problems... The installer said they corrected these issues... so far so good but it really made me uneasy... I would have chosen a different brand had i know. So far so good... lets hope it lasts as long as the others. However , on another note, google nest thermostats do not properly work on Lennox systems... I had to switch to Emerson smart thermostat.
Been using Lennox for over 20 yrs! No problems!! Do diy routine maintenance regularly & probably almost any brand will last a long time.
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Nest is not a great t stat. All kinds of issues. Honeywell T6 is my fave.
Lennox heat pump installed in our new home 10 years ago has been an absolute nightmare! It’s cost us thousands. Buyer Beware!
@@bradroth7005 The bad Lennox units were made from late 2007 thru 2015 because they had uncoated copper coils that corroded too easily. Lennox switched to aluminum alloy coils in late 2015. Copper is actually a better conductor than aluminum, but can have corrosion problems. I just did some research and Google Nest will work on some Lennox units, but the Lennox units with iComfort Wi-Fi thermostats it is a lot more complicated to install a Nest, because you have to change some DIP switches on the Lennox furnace control circuit board.
Rheem/Ruud now owns Freidrich (the king of window units, and the last company making them in North America) and according to their web info, they now brand Rheem/Ruud central systems under the Friedrich name. Friedrich used to make theirown central systems back in the 60s and 70s, and they were battleships. You can still find some old ones still running, much like old York units and Airtemp units from the era before Chrysler sold the brand off.
My Lennox is 18 years old. Now the furnace it replaced was from 1963 and not broken. The old one wasn't really dirty inside. We always change the filter, vacuum the vents of debris and on the old furnace we used to lube the parts. I don't know if you have a video explaining the differences in a high end HVAC unit or not but if not, you should.
One thing that I would want to mention is the blower motor. When people are considering a unit, the lower end motors can start with such a snap, all the ducting shakes. The Lennox unit we currently have ramps up so slowly you don't get that noise. Also, it might be my imagination, but it seems to operate at lower speeds at times and we aren't sure the motor is on until you use a piece of tissue paper at a vent to see if it flowing air or not. The single speeds and two speed motors make a lot of racket and in a small house, you'll enjoy the noise more than you'd like.
I was just sayning this to my wife, that the labor is excessive now. They were asking $12k for a 4 ton and $10k for a 3 Ton when the price on the internet was less than $5k. What a rip off.
hvac is a crooked business in communist canada you cant even buy one.
Yes, I’m observing the same thing. Labor costs are ridiculously high. The cheapest quote I got for a simple 5 ton, said he makes $2800 for the install. He said it would take him 6 hours. That was the best deal by far but seems pretty high to me.
and they probably can get the equipment for 3-4k
i just saw a quote from 2 of the biggest a/c compaines here in phoenix for 14k and 15k for equipment that cost 5500 and 6200.. figure that out... with the elbow, stand, wipp, disconnect, thermostat, crane lets say 6200 and 7000 ... my home owners insurance went from 508.00 in 22 to renew in 6/24 to 1000.00 doubled in two years.. those a/c units went up 1200.00 in two years and next year they 're going to be higher... all the companies are using the roll out of this new refrigerant next year to scare/ justify these prices......
@@Random_DIY is it wonder people are driven to look for ways to save money? $466 per hour to install a 5 ton? Absurd
1:15 My advise on buying equipment direct. Talk to contractors in your area before your make a purchase. Contractors make a lot of their money on equipment mark up. They may not want to install if they aren't making markup or you might not save that much if they figure in what they would have made if they sold you the equipment. Warranty repairs may be a little more difficult if you bought the equipment yourself. It may be on you to do all the warranty leg work.
My home only had electric wall heaters so I had a local pro install a ducted Lennox 3 ton heat pump 8 years ago. I've had no problems at all and just installed a Micro-Air soft start myself last month. The only maintenance has been regular air filter replacements.
Lennox fixed the problem in 2015 when they switched from uncoated copper to aluminum alloy for their coils, according to what I read.
Please wash the condenser coils once a year by at least gently spraying water through them to flush our dirt and debris .
My adult son lives in another state from me. Based on my past experience with a local contractor that installs and services Trane and other makes I strongly encouraged him to replace his 18 year old Carrier systems with a Trane from a local dealer even at a much higher cost than some other quotes he got. Unfortunately his experience has not been good so I have a lot of remorse for having made the recommendation. One of the two Trane units he had installed has been constant trouble over the past two years. From the beginning when cooling the unit dripped water on the filter and onto the floor. Different technicians came out at different times, added refrigerant. Then after a year and the labor warranty expired another technician decided the condensate catch pan was leaking and replaced it with the part provided by Trane but my son paying for labor and more refrigerant. The last technician determined the evaporator to have a very small leak and replaced it, part provided by Trane but my son again paying for labor and refrigerant. Clearly a quality problem by Trane but a very expensive problem for my son.
How do you get Trane to step up and take responsibility for all the cost caused by a defect and less than expected technician skill that the leak was not detected and repaired while under the full one year warranty?
Great video . Thank you
Installed my own AC/Furnace after watching this guys video.
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Most licensed and insured HVAC companies I know of will not install customer provided equipment. We did it one time, and the evaporator coil was no good. The manufacturer who made the equipment would not warranty the part, as a licensed contractor didn't purchase the system. The homeowner was forced to go through the website they ordered it from, and that took ages to get any resolution
yeah, generally not worth the headache.
I had Daikin furnace and AC installed by AH here in SLC two years ago. I got a 12 year bumper to bumper warranty. Couple of issues from initial install and they were very quick to come right out and makes things right.
I have a couple random minisplits and love them. Question: Do they make a minsplit central ac system that works with existing ductwork and dont need individual room head units?
Yes they do. It’s called a ducted mini split.
Thanks. So no individual room head units? That is music to my ears if they perform like my individual minisplits! @JackofAllTrades1
@OptimizeYourHealthPhD yep. I have one in my house... replaced an old central air unit and used all the old ductwork. The outdoor unit looks like the same skinny box that a normal minisplit uses, and the indoor fan coil unit fits right in the same spot thr central air was. All I had to do was modify the sheet metal a little.
@@JackofAllTrades1awesome news. Which unit did you go with? Any electric savings? Do they still blow ice cold going through the ducts?
@OptimizeYourHealthPhD I got the Mr. Cool one but the non diy unit since I know how to run everything. I upgraded from a 20 year old unit so savings were inevitable. Hardest part was running the new lines in the wall like the old unit was. Had I gone with a bigger unit i could have maybe the same lines but minisplits tend to use smaller lines than central ac.
Is sizing all that critical when using a system with a variable speed compressor? I don't mean a two stage compressor, I mean an inverter driven compressor. It's not a huge concern to oversize (within reason) in the mini-split world with inverter compressors and variable speed air handlers. Are these not common in traditional split, ducted world of A/C or heat pumps? Maybe this could be a video on its own. Thanks!
I put 3 window inverters units in for cooling. Electric bill went down $100 a month. And not as noisy as my central unit, which still works. Propane for heat in the winter now too. Fill my 500 gallon tank in July to take advantage of the lower summer rates. I can run two years on that 400 gallons.
Gracias 🙏 señor Dave!!! This information is very helpful for us homeowners thanks 😊
Great video!!
Ive been buying online for many years now. Im on my 11th unit but this year I changed things up and got a Trane runtru system (2ton) and a 4/5 ton Mr. Cool heat pump for my personal house. Ive been procrastinating on the trane one but i have to face the music this month plus my home one is just awaiting a new pad and ill get going on it as well. Its not hard at all...brazing is about the hardest part if you ask me. I did invest into some equipment...still dont have a micron gauge but i let my vacuum pump for 30 to 40 minutes because its a cheap harbor freight unit, let it sit for 3 or 4 hours under vacuum and let it loose. Ive only had issues with 1 blower motor so i spent the money and bought the blower portion of the unit because, by the time you pay some company to come do it....you still saved money biying brand new stuff.
The rates these contractors are charging these days should be outlawed...criminals at work but they figured out a legal way to rob and stay out of jail
Do you buy complete systems? Who have you found is good to buy from and can you get the full warranty?
@@Random_DIY I bought 10 system through ac wholesalers and then I started buying from Ingram's air.
There is a warranty, as I understand it, through ac wholesalers but as I understand it you would need to send the parts back to them and wait it out.
I've only had one failure but if you do the math...you come out ahead buying another new one and reinstalling said new one vs paying some clown contractor to do the warranty work. Warranty's aren't worth shit when the equipment is so inexpensive. The con tractors will eat up any savings.
@@johngatsby1473Good to know. I am trying to move into what you’re doing as I’ve had some really bad experiences trying to hire people. I’m sure there are good HVAC people but I can’t find them at a fair price.
@@Random_DIY I've had to seek out individual techs in the past but I just got to where I could save more doing them myself. It's really not that hard. Diagnosing is more a skill from experience and that's where I'm a bit weak but there's always a RUclips video that helps walk you through it.
At worst, get it all installed and have a company come out and tune it up for you....still saving TONS of money
@@johngatsby1473 Have you ever looked into someone like Lowe’s or Homedepot? I see they offer installation.
We have a place in NM and thankfully can get by with a Mastercool evaporative swamp cooler. During monsoon season we have a room AC unit in the bedroom. When it's hot and dry the swamp cooler will freeze you out of the house! And electric bills are never over 100 bucks.
I have a York rooftop unit. Condenser motor fan just failed. The OEM motor was 1k.....Old unit, so we put in an aftermarket motor for 500 bucks.
Yeah, if an old unit can be maintained without spending a fortune on it, that's probably the best option, even if it consumes more energy than a new unit.
@@brothermine2292 Like new windows, you never recoup the energy savings just a rip off.
Same here, was quoted $1500 and a 3 week wait time; so we went with the rescue motor for $300.
>joefran619 : It should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. Besides comparing the cost of refurbishing to the cost of a new unit, and comparing their energy efficiencies, it's also important to estimate the remaining life of the old unit and compare it to the estimated life of the new unit.
@@brothermine2292 thx, I have decided to hold off and have the furnace replaced also at the same time.
Right now, 😔I am installing Complete System AC and Heating Condenser , Evaporator coil and Gas Furnace and Replacing All ductwork By myself...... Godly...... So much Work going into it. I'm just a Diy. Im 3/4 works done. Working on my days off 😔. Very tired
So far Cost around $ 10,000 on Goodman system
In my experience, I agree with you about ruud. I have a ruud system from 1989 that is still hanging in there. It’s a leaker, leaks, a little bit over the winter so I have to juice it up every spring but other than that it’s been great. Only thing I ever had to do to It was change the capacitor couple times and the contactor once. Still blows, ice, cold air in 2024.
Fudge...I wish I knew all of this before getting a new system last year. Great vid and content!
Way back when I was in the trade Trane was considered the Cadillac of the industry, they were the only manufacturer that made their own compressor
Yup and now Trane is junk just like the rest.
I'm on my third top of the line Trane touch screen thermostat. Regret buying Trane. Thermostat is made by n China.
@@MGMidget73 Do you have Trane equipment ? I was a service tech many years ago, Trane was always the most reliable brand
@@markme4 Yes, the top of the line heating and AC. Installed about 2018.
@@MGMidget73 Trane equipment? How do you like it ?
Dave, one big manufacturer that makes a whole bunch of brands is Midea. They actually make the Carrier mini splits, ACiQ, C&H and probably 20 more names. The way you can find out who makes an AC or heat pump is to lookup the UL or ETL file number. It's the number listed right under the logo. An example is Cooper & Hunter, I looked up the UL number and Midea came up.The listing in the UL file of model numbers they make for various brand names was probably 100 or more.
Thanks for the information, I learned a lot from you.
I typically buy Carrier for my own home one of their brands. No issues with like "Day and Night"/ACIQ, don't like Traine (their coils leak on well known places) - no, Lennox on my NO-NO-Never list, York/Coleman etc - unknown to me (I can troubleshoot them easily), just not sure about them. DAIKIN - is something I want to try, Goodman is ok (I had prior failures, may have been other issues).
I have a carrier central air. After a few years I kept having the service tech adding refrigerant. Now leaks so bad I stopped calling them cause the cost of adding the 410a was breaking me, I come to find out the evaporator was a copper and should have been aluminum. Carrier messed up because I found out many other people went through the same shit. I said the hell with that and bought 2 window air conditioners.
This Can't be good! Noisy! Lots of energy usage. Not good.
You have been given bad info. Copper is superior to aluminum. I assume you are referring to the coil. The aluminum coils leak more than copper. Copper is also an upgrade over an aluminum coil. That doesn't mean a copper coil won't leak. Just stating aluminum is worse.
@@scotts4125 It was the 410a reaction to the metal.
@@joefran619 You were explained to wrong or didn't understand something. That isn't a thing. R-22 had chlorine in it. R410a doesn't so if anything R-22 would have been worse and copper was fine. R410a operates at a higher pressure and you may have just had a poorly constructed coil. I would take a copper coil any day over aluminum. Acid has an effect on copper but that isn't from R410a and an entirely different subject. It's called formicary corrosion.
One more thing- My boss has been asked many times to install something that someone has bought online or gotten used from a friend. Think about it--Why would we? if it is used, then why was it replaced? Are we now responsible for its hidden faults? And would you want a contractor fixing your furnace with used parts which could fail at any time? Sure, for me who can do the work on my own system I probably would do it, but if I am having a contractor drive out and replace something that isn't backed by a warranty, forget it. And then asking a contractor to install something new that they don't sell is only going to happen when they are not busy. If there are any unusual procedures necessary to install it, are you willing to pay them to read the installation manual on your dime? I don't think so.
These units should be plug and play... i was saying to someone else if you can have an AC in a vehicle that goes through all that vibration.. maybe even a fender bender and keeps on running.. or at least the lines don't leak.. then why don't residential units have the same thing that doesn't require brazing or costly crimp connectors.. and if you can buy as many cases of R134a as you want at wallyworld for your car why isn't there a refrigerant you can get for your home units. manufacturer mafia is why.. i think
@@zippythechickenWhy would they be plug n play? If registered the warranty for most furnaces is 10yrs. Why would a company be willing to warranty a product installed by a hack?
Installing isn’t difficult, installing correctly up to code is. Diagnosing isn’t easy either I’ve seen circuit boards throw some crazy errors all due to a fluctuation in a nest thermostat pulling too much power from the transformer.
My point is that these are highly advanced pieces of machinery plug n play not really an option
Regarding the 134a vs 410a it should be obvious that they are different chemical compounds and are judged differently by the EPA. No cert no 410a purchase unless it’s online they’ll sell to anyone will to fork out the cash
@@michaelc.sobczyk9100 spoken like a union rep. did you know in some states you don't have to be licensed to be a HVAC tech... so any handyman could get their EPA Cert over the weekend and be able to do whatever they wanted. Other states you have to be specifically licensed to install drywall... not just a contractors or general business license but a drywall contractor's license.. the hardest part about HVAC after installing duct work is routing the thermostat wires up to the main floor... now maybe this work is beyond an idiot to perform but if you can take your cellphone apart with a razor blade and change its battery then you pretty much can install a HVAC system. if the parameters of every system could be stored in a digital gauge set or easily entered and with the power of what a cellphone app takes you could check the pressures and superheat without any calculation just a low/good/high on the screen which would be very easy to develop .. linesets that are screw on.. I mean really it wouldn't take much at all to get it done. ... I understand there are complexities in thermodynamics and fluid dynamics but really it doesn't have to be that complex... it should be as easy as changing out an electric water heater which also come with a 10 year warranty and are consumer installable.
@@zippythechickenUnion? Furthest thing from it.
It doesn’t matter to me if a state requires a license the manufacturer requires it for the warranty to be honored. They post it on all of their web sites.
Somewhere across this vast country of ours there has been someone who doesn’t know anything about anything who attached the 110v to the neutral do you think they want to fork over a new circuit board to that guy?
I imagine if you can take your iPhone apart with a razor then your’re not the typical home owner wouldn’t you agree?
You should go ahead and develope that refrigerant app.
The industry tried screw on linesets it didn’t pan out. Other than mini splits I don’t believe there’s a manufacture out there using screw on linesets.
@@michaelc.sobczyk9100 what are you even talking about Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont do not require or offer State Issued HVAC licenses.... Are you telling me none of those states have full warranties on their equipment?
dude just no... just.... no
My home here in Apex, NC has Tempstar AC and Heat units .... This is also made by Carrier
I bought my central AC united from Carters Lumber and installed myself, that was almost 30 years ago and still running.
In that time, I replace the capacitor twice.
How do I size it correctly?
One ton per 500 ft.²
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Start by installing a smart thermostat, like a Nest, on your current setup. Use the stat’s data to determine the maximum runtime on a single day, during the hottest and coldest day. Use this runtime to “scale” your existing HVAC equipment capacity, likely down. For example, say your existing furnace is 100,000 BTU/hr. Say the stat tells you that that furnace only runs half the time on your coldest winter day. Thus, a 50,000 BTU/hr furnace could have met your true load. Retired HVAC controls guy here.
>gregholloway2656 : Don't assume your HVAC won't need to handle days in future years that are colder or hotter than this year's extremes.
@@brothermine2292 True, but when selecting equipment, you’ll end up rounding up to the next closest size. I.e. 50,000 needed, buy the 60,000 furnace.
No contractor is going to install a unit they didn't sell. Been doing ac since 88.
Been with two different companies doing hvac and plumbing for 4 1/2 years. Both companies will install customer purchased equipment. They are held accountable for filling warranties. We strictly install and ONLY install. Everything else, they are on their own to take care of it.
A customer paying cash may change your theory
I have a RUUD force air For heat and cold that’s about 30 years old and still running .
My Goodman has been running strong for twenty years. I've had it maintained a couple of times.
People should move on from the Lennox bashing. That lawsuit was also 10 years ago at this point. They don’t even sell that equipment anymore. “Lennox Industries Inc. agreed to settle a class action lawsuit about its evaporator coils, purchased between October 29, 2007 and July 9, 2015.” All manufactures have quality control issues now it seems. At least Lennox owned up to it then. Everyone can have their preference though. For example in my area many reputable contractors still push Lennox as their preferred high end brand.
Well said sir!
@@kingcobra4235 Thank you!
As I said, that what I heard from a bunch of contractors so not my opinion on this. But thanks for the input!
you look like a used car salesman the way you constantly use your hands while talking
Critical commenter? OR? Do you help others, or just complain all the time? Maybe your glass needs to be washed and put in the cupboard...
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Passive / aggressive wimp no doubt you are
Had a Luxair for over 20 years only had 1 repair. Replaced it with a Bryant and had 1 A/C and 1 heating repair in less than 3 years. My house was more comfortable in the winter with the Luxair.
have had an amana system since 2009 and it is still going strong!! 🤠
I'll be ordering a 2 ton ACIQ with coil box to go with my carrier furnace. Thanks!!