Yeah. When you get to We Sing it's just like, "of course. Of course there's a musical in the middle of the game." Then it starts and it's like *HOLY SHIT!* They're insane geniuses!
@@Zombi1783 It's his game but it's the investor's millions. It's unfortunate but that's how it goes. That's why George Lucas fought so hard to keep creative control of Star Wars. Him and Sam Lake both are auteurs and it shows.
@@Zombi1783 Unfortunately, that's not how game development works. Just because you're a writer/director/producer doesn't mean your babies aren't on the chopping block. As we've seen in many interviews across the industry, they've shared tons of things they wanted in their games that were ultimately axed either due to time, money, or technical constraints.
This was legitimately one of the best parts of the game, and it caught me completely off-guard. I was playing, jamming and laughing the whole time. TBH, I never wanted it to end. Very few games have blown me away like that. If you saw how it was presented in the game itself, it would surprise you. It's _so goooood._ The *Twin Peaks* influences in Alan Wake _(especially Alan Wake 2)_ are spot on.
If you'd never played Control, you should go play it. There's a segment of that game that is similar in concept and I think they nailed the combination of gameplay with this kind of ludicrousness better than they did in We Sing. That said I love both, a lot.
@@LockeTheCole Oh, I’ve definitely played Control, and AW1. Max Payne (1) a really long time ago. Believe me, the further Ive gotten into AW2, I was thrilled with how much from Control was showing up.
The last game that did a similar thing for me was Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, entering an area in one of the later levels Heaven's Divide by Donna Burke starts to play, and an onslaught of soldiers with Heli Gunship support descend upon you. Came out of nowhere with no build-up but it was a "moment", like this.
Also, the song plays in a *gameplay segment* where you actually walk/run around, and with combat sections, too, all while the song is playing, with looping bridge segments until you reach the next portion of the song, and those videos are playing on giant screens. It's amazing.
In the short game Alan Wake's American Nightmare, Alan Wake is the Champion of Light and and his evil doppelgänger Mr. Scratch is the Herald of Darkness.
This song is from Alan Wake 2, which, of course, continues the story from Alan Wake 1 and American Nightmare. (And also Control, another game by the same developer set in the same universe) As such, Alan is still the Champion of Light and and his evil doppelgänger Mr. Scratch is still the Herald of Darkness, as per this song.
Mr. Scratch shows up at the very end of the first game. The Diver tells Alan to "pay him [Scratch] no mind. His friends will meet him when he's gone." Which is heard throughout Alan Wake 2 as part of a poem.
Turns out Scratch is Alan. Scratch is his part, that we were fighting against in Signal DLC. Song actually straight hints this - "darkness within him". Champion of Light and Herald of Darkness are same person. Its like Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader. Everyone have light and darkness inside and its a choise what gets stronger.
This was a very creative way to get up to speed those who were not able to play the first game (or at least those who have forgotten the events in it). Hope you get to the part where this song was used. Great video! More power, and horns up! 🤘🏻
i thought the first game was none canon now? but i look the spooky ness where it's not fully horror but enough to have majority people can play but also like the written in book with story coming to life
@@knightwolf3511 why would it be non canon? it's literally connected to the first one. it also references it a lot and the story continues exactly after
To be honest, only a Finn can come up with something that silly 😂 and still absolutely fantastic; now I want to see a Silent Hill, Resident Evil and The Evil Within musical number, too ❤
This song absolutely needs to be in every karaoke selection in every karaoke bar across the world. I would absolutely love to bust this out with no context, haha.
Yes Poets of the Fall are in Max Payne, their music is from the end credits of Max Payne 2 if I remember correctly. Furthermore, Marko Saaresto, the singer, gives the face to the final boss of the second game (a character also present in the first game), namely Vladimir Lem.
Close: Maarko was the person they used to play Vlad in Max Payne 1 in the comic panels. And Late Goodbye was my introduction to POTF, and man it's stuck with me ever since that night I finished Max Payne 2 19 years ago.
the actor who was the performance capture of alan is Ikka villi, the voice of alan in both games is matthew porretta, walin door is portrayed by actor david harewood most notable for his role in supergirl as martian manhunter
well, the Clicker is clearly an Object Of Power like the ones The FBC like to collect (like that projector, or the red phone, and I suspect, Ahti's walkman). the Control DLC delves deeper into that stuff and Bright Fall's AWE in general. Seriously, The RemedyVerse needs to be made into a TTRPG!
It’s referenced in the game that is more than likely was at some point. But I don’t want to go into game spoilers on why I say at some point it was. You’ll just have to play it. Alan’s Typewriter = the Projector is a better equivalent to it and it seems like the FBC haven’t been able to secure it yet. Either way it’s going to be interesting for DLC and Control 2 tie in.
I'm glad I didn't type this out and rather decided to skim through the comments to see if anyone was faster. I just want to add, that an OOP can be inert initially, but through collective belief it can become one. So maybe when his mom gave him The Clicker, it was just a placebo, but because Alan truly believed in its power it actually became so.
It is more likely that the roles are reversed imo, I feel that it would make more sense that the FBC and the events of Control were a result of Alan Wake stuff. Perhaps a story written by Alan to escape with the projector being a failed exit device.
With how many rewrites to the story in the game and the feature to shape the plot probably mirrors the exact writing process of the game which adds more of the meta aspect of the game. Sam Lake was probably like “Let’s give them all the drafts of this plot regardless if it makes any logical sense” - the whole writing process is full of rewrites, and they probably decided to include them all in instead of cutting it out. These guys are filmmakers, writers, artists in the truest form and it shows a lot!
Sadly them taking so long to make the sequel wasn't planned. Sam Lake made a very emotional video a long time ago saying that while the first game became a cult classic and sold well over time it didn't sell well enough at release and they just didn't have the money to commit to a second game so they pushed on with Quantum Break since Microsoft were providing funds for its development. Sam also struggled to find a way of writing Alan out of the dark place which lead to Control and the SCP style universe the games have now.
Poets of the Fall did make a song for Quantum Break called Labyrinth, but because of some complications the song couldn't be included in the game in time for release.
@@MetalHeadReacts yes it is a very good book, i enjoyed it a lot. because you like 1984, i would check out the tv series called incorporated,sadly its only one season, but its very good. also recommend the christian bale movie equilibrium, and an anime series called psycho pass.
if i remember correctly Alan had not wrote a word in the 2 years before they went to bright falls. which is why alice wanted to go to see dr Hartman who claimed to fix peoples writers block. unbeknownst to Alan who was under the impression it was just a romantic get away
Yeah. Alan and Alice's marriage was on the brink of ending at the start of the first game. The section does a good job of reminding/catching up the player.
I had the chance to see these guys (Poets of the Fall) live at ProgPower in Atlanta back in 2019. They put on a great show and you can tell they have a lot of fun. Hope that Alan Wake II brings them a lot of new fans and more chances to tour. \m/
iirc Quantum Break did not end up getting a Poets of the Fall song, but they did have a song produced for the game that was cut. I believe it's "The Labyrinth" and you can find it on their 2016 album, "Clearview". Has some pretty open references to time travel and stuff.
Its probably about shifters yep. And same time about Dark Place. Could Dark Place be a kind of "time lines hub", a crossroad where endless shifters lifes linked. And that gives it power to change reality.
Everything about the game screams twin peaks from the world, the diner and police station, the red room / dark place, the coffee, dougie Jones / doppelganger. The log lady /lady of light. Plus the chapter music is very lynch.
Just remember Hatch and Joyce are shifters. They live all variants of their lives in same moment in many separated time lines. Door actually was planned to be played by Lance Reddick but he died. So its likely Door and Tim are one of their projections in time line created by Alan book.
Haven't played Alan Wake 2 as of this comment but what I found interesiting was the "Show me the Champion of Light, I'll show you the Herald of Darkness" part of the chourus. I tokk it as a way of saying that Alan plays both parts. Don't know if that is the meaning behind it but with him writing the Stories (?) he sort of is both. The Champion of Light while he lives through these events but also the Herald of darkness when he is writing them
It is a brilliant song. Once you finish the game a couple of times, and if you know all about RCU and have been a fan of Remedy, you will understand how amazing this piece of music is. It is a masterpiece. The whole game is a masterpiece. Not because of the game mechanics but because of Sam Lake and his brilliant writing. It is amazing how everything clicks and connects. It is perfectly satisfying.
TLDR for Warlin Door without spoiling analyzing for AW2.0 The chat show host; Warlin Door is another permentantion of Martin Hatch. We were first introduced in Quantum Break, played by Lance Riddick, who was signed on to do AW2 before he sadly passed away. He's also mentioned by name by Jessie's brother as someone whom refused to help him break the Hiss across dimensions. Basically he's some whose able to see and move through all layers of Space and time. His exact motives in AW2 are unclear.
@@TheCursedCat1927 Yes he legally has to derive difference, same for max payne., but like even if not literally the same....they are. your hiring the same people, putting them in the same outfits, giving them the same abilites and telling them to effect the same performance. and your changing Hatch to door. We are ment to read these as being the same.
the host, I won't say his name, is played by David Harewood, who played in that CallOf in space with Kit Harrington and also J'on J'onzz in Supergirl from start to finish.
Got to the section of the game where this takes place and just had the biggest shit-eating grin on my face. Im 22, ive seen alot of what games have to offer in terms of innovation and brilliant design and this moment ranks close to the top. Good reaction bro. Known of your channel for a good few years, its good to see you still around and kicking with a great setup upgrade by the looks of it
I love these songs, I do wish they hadn't cut out as much as they do when they made the non-game versions (especially the Ashtray Maze/Take Control). There was so many good bits recorded in both the Ashtray Maze and We Sing that never made it to the 'single'. In this version of Herald of Darkness I think the jazzy portion of the song comes to an end way too quickly making it not fit in as well as it would have if it'd had more of what was in the game.
To be fair, the pacing here is made specifically with the game in mind. When it comes to making it an actual song, the pacing we got in the "Single" versions (especially the TGA performance) works way better in that context.
@@TheCursedCat1927 I'm not saying they had to use everything made to fill time in the game, but Take Control was turned into more of a straight rock single (ALA a typical POTF song) instead of the more proggy songs they've released as Old Gods.
Herald of Darkness is my favorite segment of the game because you can just tell that for all the wacky and i mean, imagine your sitting in the break room being told your about to be part of a musical and everyone's like "is... is Sam for real here?" joking and making fun of the whole thing like it's not being taken seriously... And then you see that it payed off because everyone is just having a blast during the performance, like sure the initial reaction was "This cannot be for real..." but then it's like "Ok that was a ton of fun once I got into it!" you can see the actors are having *Fun* and that's always a wonderful thing to see. :)
It slaps so fucking hard. I watch a playthrough (hehe broke bitch hours) and when this came on I kinda had to pick up my jaw once it hit me that this was _really happening._ It's weird, it's beautiful, and good gods is it definitely Alan Wake.
It's insanely _artistical_ piece in gameplay. Never ever seen or even thought that someone would create music within game to tell player what happened in previous title to give background to story. I've played through first AW and when this scene came up in sequel and I realized what it's doing my appreciation to Remedy Entertaiments and POTF/OGOA band rose to a completely different heights. This scene will be hard to go beyond. 12/10 for them. Hell musical tailored to support gameplay. Try to convince me other, but that's cool as F. *edit* Very minor spoiler. It was also quite clever move to bind Alan Wake and Control series to each other in story level.
The same timeframe question could be asked if The Return of Twin Peaks, especially since the 25 years is mentioned in season one, episode three, in 1990. How much was intentionally, especially around the time of not only working out a deal on a new season but being actually 25 years irl. Like at that point was there a deal then a decision to wait two years to start since why not? In Alan Wake the 13 years isnt mentioned that I'm aware of. But The Lynch references go beyond Twin Peaks in AW2
@MetalHeadReacts It's still in the second game and not mentioned in the very first game, afaik. And in the original Twin Peaks series the 25 years is mentioned in the first Black Lodge dream.
just to make it clear if poets of the fall did many musics for remedy games, the old gods of asgard were made up for alan wake as part of the plot "spoilers after this point" it is part of the story being theses creators are being used by the witch of the lake to make things (mostly nightmares) come true out of their creativity. the only other links that exist actualy are with control, alan wake american nightmare and alan wake 2, there are two songs in alan wake (the poet and the muse and children of the elder god) one in alan wake american nightmare (balance slays the demon) one in control (take control) and one in alan wake 2 (herald of darkness) all together they do write out parts of the story of this conex univers being, old gods of asgard having powers to make things come true through their music, poet and the muse being the begining of alan wake telling you they are at the origin of him going to the lake with his wife, balance slays the demon his basicaly telling that alan wake can do something to fight the demons from the stories he wrote to find a way out of the story, control is explaining that you need to take control of the power of your imagination to get to the end of things, and finaly herald of darkness being a recap of the situation of alan wake telling you he is being the hero of the light (the torch bearer) the one to destroy the darkness they created as the old gods of asgard planed their escape route from the witches powers by giving alan wake the power to destroy theses demons. from what i understand from the story alan wake was called by the witch to the lake because the old gods of asgard included him as part of their plan to destroy the witch, leading him to write a story that will ultimately end her but by doing so he woke up the source of her powers being a demon that took alan's face and place in the real world to force him to keep on writing more things and he now has to destroy that demon as he is the champion of light brought here by the old gods of asgard to fight the herald of darkness (the demon that now is the one trapping him in his own stories) he is not responsible for the darkness despite what we are made to think, but he is the champion of light chosen by the old gods of asgard that saw the potential through his stories knowing that being the writer he is, he would interest the witch, it being a subtil trap because the dark stories he writes should end well but his writing and personal story are similar to thomas zane making him the perfect candidate to being the hero they need to save the creators that are traped under the witches/demon spell.
Playing though this level the first time blew my mind. Due to a glitch I had to play it again and it had more impact. Not I've watched The Asgard video like 10 times. It's really damn good as is the game.
The song does recap Alan's past and the events of the first game; but, all the sections song by the Old God's are filled with forshadowing for further in the game. The Old God's are trying to help Alan.
Not just the Old Gods, it's heavily implied that this is Mr. Door trying to help Alan to remember what happened to him and why he's stuck in the Dark Place.
Damn! Sorry I missed this live. I *LOVE* Poets of the Fall and if you haven't I highly suggest checking out the Alexander Theater Sessions. It's basically just Marko and Olli playing acoustic versions of their songs in a big empty theater. Some of their songs just hit different in that place and I tell anyone who is a fan to check it out
Would be a bit different, but if you havent already heard/reacted to it, take a gander at Yötön Yö from AW2 as well. Finnish tango, but with a darker twist to the lyrics. Sung in Finnish but the game/clips have english translation in them.
One of the best moment in Alan Wake 2 my god I was blown away and confused but I ended up enjoy the level's song its so good to listen glad I can listen to it on the go :)
I don't think the wait between iterations was on purpose, since they had to buy the rights back from Microsoft in 2019. Alan Wake 1 also didn't do well upon release, even though it was critically loved and developed a cult following over time. American Nightmare only really happened because they were working on some stuff for a sequel that wasn't really going to plan and Microsoft demanded something for the work they were putting in. After that, as far as I know, they were encouraged to work on a new IP, which was when they did Quantum Break. They were only really able to return to Alan Wake proper after they split from Microsoft and got the rights to the IP back fully.
@@MetalHeadReacts You vaguely resemble beloved fantasy author Patrick Rothfuss. I was just being silly. Definitely feel free to take it as a compliment. 😄
Alan Wake kind of was trying to sace his marriage, it wasn't outright said in the first game, but Doctor Hartman had been in contact with Alice Wake by phone, they use a spliced together recording of the conversation where she was talking about her concern for Alan's negative behaviour as a result of his writers block and stress to pretend to have her as a hostage and bait Alan. Coming to Bright Falls was Hartman's idea
I remember it being the doctors idea, I didn't remember it being to save their marriage, like I said, it had been a long time since playing the original, so I suppose it's understandable that I forgot some of the details...
Alan wake 1 best part : corn field fight with children of the elder god playing I'm going to start alan wake 2 tomorrow and I guess I already know which part is going to win the awards
I am subscribed and have rung the bell but I have missed some of your vids as they are not appearing on my notifications list. I am guessing that this is a youtube issue. Is this something you can report to RUclips?
It's been an issue I've seen happen a few times on other channels too. The only suggestion that comes back is to unclick the bell and then re-click it.
Pretty sure it's not a retcon. Alan was scared and had constant nightmares as a kid, but was able to overcome his fears when his mom gave him the Clicker. Alice however, had nyctophobia, a fear of the dark that persisted into her adulthood.
Why is it these fake video game bands are often way way way more awesome than non-fictional counterparts?! The Midnight Riders within Left 4 Dead are solid gold too.
As for Zane and Alan it's pretty convoluted but the end of AW implied that Zane wrote himself out of reality except for a box and then the box had the lightswitch. Maybe Pandora's Box? The lightswitch but also a page about the beginning of Wake's life, and the childhood memory of mom getting the lightswitch. So is the lightswitch hope? Or is Alan? There is a heavy suggestion that Zane created Alan and uncreated himself and thus Alan is actually him creating a loophole to get out of the dark place which both works and doesnt work. Also this part of the plot and multiple people both being amd playjng mutlitple versions of themselves written into out of and around it make this thread much more like Inland Empire than Twin Peaks. The whole getting trapped inba reality that others got trapped in before by trying to make the same movie that was initally failedbl at finishing...anyone who's reading this and got this far if you didnt get Inland Empire entirely (as much as it can be) then play AW2 (and maybe the first and Control) and then go back to Inland Empire. There are aspects of AW2 that made me see IE in a brand new light or perspective(s)
It was Alan who writed page about Zane writing. Zane was not a writer, he was movies director and actor. Diver who helps Alan is one of Zane characters from his movie. Zane left a hint and Alan used it to write Zane and his help into story. They did it together.
@Velanteg Jessie Faden remembers Zane as a poet though. The implication is that he was originally a writer and that aspect of him was written out of existence, and Faden is one of those who remember...until they are gaslit into not believing their own memories any more.
I know, right? I know you're being sarcastic, but I like it. I can make it any colour I want, I happen to like purple. But then, my chair isn't there to please you, and how having it light up purple makes it "not metal" is just confusing... That's like saying Corpsegrinder is "not metal" because he plays arcade games to win cuddly toys for kids. It's not done to impress you, it's done because it's something we like. So... What was the point in trying to mock me? It gets you nothing and just kind of makes you out to look like a petty fool.
first part alan wake didn't but the people he wrote in did, he wrote him a way to escape ya he did have writers block, first game allice kinda tricked him
I get an Iron Mauden vibe from Old Gods songs but un an intentional way, to separate the styles between their bands as well as intentionally make them sound a metal band from the Old Gods timeframe would sound like authentically. It's quite well done.
It is catchy. But something with the chorus bugs me. The word “night” in the third line needs to be sung at the same pitch as the word “light” in the first line. That would give the chorus some vocal symmetry.
@@MetalHeadReacts oh no no Sorry, It was entirely My bad on not specifying... Its because i've watched many reactions on, due to lack of context, the person reacting Just attack the whole thing, not your case! Sorry my bad, i'll edit my commentary!
Hits way harder ingame, but this is a cool way to merge it. Definitely doesn't work as well without the gameplay interuptions and constant looping to adjust to each player
The game version of the song is longer and the video is the official band version for RUclips. Watching the RUclips band and Remedy approved version is probably much better for revenue than a recording of a video game playthrough, that would also increase the length of the ntire video by probably 5 to 10 minutes, since the recent video version cuts out about 4 to 5 minutes of the song and even the radio in the writers room version is still slightly shorter than the game playthrough by a small or large margin depending on skill and exploration.
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For as insane as it is, it actually makes perfect sense when it pops up in the game.
Yeah. When you get to We Sing it's just like, "of course. Of course there's a musical in the middle of the game." Then it starts and it's like *HOLY SHIT!* They're insane geniuses!
Exactly ! :D
We sing.
I love later in the game when he's explaining it to the FBI agent and she's like "well this just makes even less sense" or whatever she says lol
I love later in the game when he's explaining it to the FBI agent and she's like "well this just makes even less sense" or whatever she says lol
Sam Lake, the guy doing the little jig in the suit at the start, had to fight to keep this segment in the game.
And it paid off.
@@Pirategamer1138 Absolutely
Best part of the game. It’s his game shouldn’t have had to fight to keep it.
@@Zombi1783 It's his game but it's the investor's millions. It's unfortunate but that's how it goes. That's why George Lucas fought so hard to keep creative control of Star Wars. Him and Sam Lake both are auteurs and it shows.
@@Zombi1783 Unfortunately, that's not how game development works. Just because you're a writer/director/producer doesn't mean your babies aren't on the chopping block. As we've seen in many interviews across the industry, they've shared tons of things they wanted in their games that were ultimately axed either due to time, money, or technical constraints.
One correction though:
Ilka Villi is the actor that gives body to Alan Wake however the voice is that of Matthew Porretta :)
Holy shit, Alan Wake is voiced by Will Scarlett O'Hara?
Yeah. Mathew Porretta's singing ability was one of the reasons Sam Lake knew they could pull this off.
@@melissaharris3389 to avoid spoilers for everyone who hasn't played Control I'll just say this as a response to you : Dynamite 😄
@@SjPedro Alright! 😎
Oh... DARLING!
The line after this segment is Alan Wake saying, "And I thought this place couldn't get any stranger."
And after Alan hears the janitor Ahti singing the song while mopping the floor he says "catchy isn't?"
Ahit's right. I've had Harald of Datkness stuck in my head ever since playing.
There's another voice line that can play instead of that one. Alan says: Not bad.
I actually got "I didn't expect that..."
This was legitimately one of the best parts of the game, and it caught me completely off-guard. I was playing, jamming and laughing the whole time. TBH, I never wanted it to end. Very few games have blown me away like that. If you saw how it was presented in the game itself, it would surprise you. It's _so goooood._ The *Twin Peaks* influences in Alan Wake _(especially Alan Wake 2)_ are spot on.
If you'd never played Control, you should go play it. There's a segment of that game that is similar in concept and I think they nailed the combination of gameplay with this kind of ludicrousness better than they did in We Sing. That said I love both, a lot.
@@LockeTheCole Oh, I’ve definitely played Control, and AW1. Max Payne (1) a really long time ago.
Believe me, the further Ive gotten into AW2, I was thrilled with how much from Control was showing up.
The last game that did a similar thing for me was Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, entering an area in one of the later levels Heaven's Divide by Donna Burke starts to play, and an onslaught of soldiers with Heli Gunship support descend upon you. Came out of nowhere with no build-up but it was a "moment", like this.
This has to be my favourite reaction video I've come across. Purely because you listened to the whole song without interruption, before the analysis.
“What an utterly ridiculous piece of music. But it was brilliant.”
Literally everyone’s exact thought process. lol
Also, the song plays in a *gameplay segment* where you actually walk/run around, and with combat sections, too, all while the song is playing, with looping bridge segments until you reach the next portion of the song, and those videos are playing on giant screens. It's amazing.
Spoilers!!! I'm only just on the part where you first play as Alan!!!
Hehe, it's all good.
Lol so he didnt entirely spoil himserlf the cooolest part of the game so you tried to do the rest lmao
In the short game Alan Wake's American Nightmare, Alan Wake is the Champion of Light and and his evil doppelgänger Mr. Scratch is the Herald of Darkness.
Aaaah I never played American nightmare.
That makes sense now, thank you for clearing that up for me.
This song is from Alan Wake 2, which, of course, continues the story from Alan Wake 1 and American Nightmare. (And also Control, another game by the same developer set in the same universe) As such, Alan is still the Champion of Light and and his evil doppelgänger Mr. Scratch is still the Herald of Darkness, as per this song.
American nightmare was his first attempt to escape. He wrote it as an episode of night springs.
Mr. Scratch shows up at the very end of the first game. The Diver tells Alan to "pay him [Scratch] no mind. His friends will meet him when he's gone." Which is heard throughout Alan Wake 2 as part of a poem.
Turns out Scratch is Alan. Scratch is his part, that we were fighting against in Signal DLC. Song actually straight hints this - "darkness within him". Champion of Light and Herald of Darkness are same person. Its like Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader. Everyone have light and darkness inside and its a choise what gets stronger.
This was a very creative way to get up to speed those who were not able to play the first game (or at least those who have forgotten the events in it). Hope you get to the part where this song was used. Great video! More power, and horns up! 🤘🏻
i thought the first game was none canon now? but i look the spooky ness where it's not fully horror but enough to have majority people can play but also like the written in book with story coming to life
@@knightwolf3511 why would it be non canon? it's literally connected to the first one. it also references it a lot and the story continues exactly after
To be honest, only a Finn can come up with something that silly 😂 and still absolutely fantastic; now I want to see a Silent Hill, Resident Evil and The Evil Within musical number, too ❤
This song absolutely needs to be in every karaoke selection in every karaoke bar across the world. I would absolutely love to bust this out with no context, haha.
Yes Poets of the Fall are in Max Payne, their music is from the end credits of Max Payne 2 if I remember correctly. Furthermore, Marko Saaresto, the singer, gives the face to the final boss of the second game (a character also present in the first game), namely Vladimir Lem.
Close: Maarko was the person they used to play Vlad in Max Payne 1 in the comic panels.
And Late Goodbye was my introduction to POTF, and man it's stuck with me ever since that night I finished Max Payne 2 19 years ago.
the bond theme "You know my name" by POTF is a very well made respect for the late Chris Cornell.
OMG just made me love even more as a Cornell huge fan. RIP
I had no idea POTF wrote that...I need to listen to them more
@@kristianirwin23 It was written by Cornell, but PotF did an amazing cover.
Alan Wake 1 hooked me into Poets of the Fall. Really love that band ever since I've played the game
this song has got to be the biggest bop in the history of video games or at least one of the biggest bops, its just absolutely amazing
Just beat all of saga’s story and played through this section earlier today and it’s probably my favourite part so far from how great it is.
the actor who was the performance capture of alan is Ikka villi, the voice of alan in both games is matthew porretta, walin door is portrayed by actor david harewood most notable for his role in supergirl as martian manhunter
Control got me into this band and i was blown away
It's not just a song, it's an experience.
SHOOOOW MEEEE THE CHAAMPIOOON OOOF LIIIIIGHT!!! ✨✨✨
well, the Clicker is clearly an Object Of Power like the ones The FBC like to collect (like that projector, or the red phone, and I suspect, Ahti's walkman). the Control DLC delves deeper into that stuff and Bright Fall's AWE in general. Seriously, The RemedyVerse needs to be made into a TTRPG!
It’s referenced in the game that is more than likely was at some point. But I don’t want to go into game spoilers on why I say at some point it was. You’ll just have to play it. Alan’s Typewriter = the Projector is a better equivalent to it and it seems like the FBC haven’t been able to secure it yet. Either way it’s going to be interesting for DLC and Control 2 tie in.
I'm glad I didn't type this out and rather decided to skim through the comments to see if anyone was faster. I just want to add, that an OOP can be inert initially, but through collective belief it can become one. So maybe when his mom gave him The Clicker, it was just a placebo, but because Alan truly believed in its power it actually became so.
It is more likely that the roles are reversed imo, I feel that it would make more sense that the FBC and the events of Control were a result of Alan Wake stuff. Perhaps a story written by Alan to escape with the projector being a failed exit device.
Yeah the fbc comes in to tell saga it's an oop
Thanks for this vid. Its Poet and The Muse the one you mentioned
With how many rewrites to the story in the game and the feature to shape the plot probably mirrors the exact writing process of the game which adds more of the meta aspect of the game. Sam Lake was probably like “Let’s give them all the drafts of this plot regardless if it makes any logical sense” - the whole writing process is full of rewrites, and they probably decided to include them all in instead of cutting it out. These guys are filmmakers, writers, artists in the truest form and it shows a lot!
Well said!
It's crazy this segment was almost cut from the game
Sadly them taking so long to make the sequel wasn't planned. Sam Lake made a very emotional video a long time ago saying that while the first game became a cult classic and sold well over time it didn't sell well enough at release and they just didn't have the money to commit to a second game so they pushed on with Quantum Break since Microsoft were providing funds for its development. Sam also struggled to find a way of writing Alan out of the dark place which lead to Control and the SCP style universe the games have now.
Poets of the Fall did make a song for Quantum Break called Labyrinth, but because of some complications the song couldn't be included in the game in time for release.
Been a while aince ive been here, so glad your back and making amazing vids like always
The way this is presented inside the game is really something else. Don't think I've ever seen something like that in a game before.
So looking forward to this, man! 😍😍
nice video! Loved the game and the song. Def subbing! :D
As a metal head myself I actually have embraced that dance routine, and incorporated it into my dance movie routine.
Haha, nice.
Also, love your Avatar... 1984 is one of my favourite books and films.
@@MetalHeadReacts yes it is a very good book, i enjoyed it a lot. because you like 1984, i would check out the tv series called incorporated,sadly its only one season, but its very good. also recommend the christian bale movie equilibrium, and an anime series called psycho pass.
if i remember correctly Alan had not wrote a word in the 2 years before they went to bright falls. which is why alice wanted to go to see dr Hartman who claimed to fix peoples writers block. unbeknownst to Alan who was under the impression it was just a romantic get away
Yeah. Alan and Alice's marriage was on the brink of ending at the start of the first game. The section does a good job of reminding/catching up the player.
I had the chance to see these guys (Poets of the Fall) live at ProgPower in Atlanta back in 2019. They put on a great show and you can tell they have a lot of fun. Hope that Alan Wake II brings them a lot of new fans and more chances to tour. \m/
iirc Quantum Break did not end up getting a Poets of the Fall song, but they did have a song produced for the game that was cut.
I believe it's "The Labyrinth" and you can find it on their 2016 album, "Clearview". Has some pretty open references to time travel and stuff.
Its probably about shifters yep. And same time about Dark Place. Could Dark Place be a kind of "time lines hub", a crossroad where endless shifters lifes linked. And that gives it power to change reality.
very a different experience when you see it gradually evolving in the game! 😊
Maybe the jazz part of the song was inspired by Twin Peaks? I’ve read that Sam Lake really loves that tv series.
Would make sense. A lot of AW2 has twin peaks inspiration
The jazz section is also the same song you hear the Old Gods playing in the background of the talk show segments. It's the theme to Mr. Door's show.
That would definitely make sense. I definitely had a sense of Twin Peaks, really in several places in the vid. I can't wait to play AW2.
Everything about the game screams twin peaks from the world, the diner and police station, the red room / dark place, the coffee, dougie Jones / doppelganger. The log lady /lady of light. Plus the chapter music is very lynch.
Just remember Hatch and Joyce are shifters. They live all variants of their lives in same moment in many separated time lines.
Door actually was planned to be played by Lance Reddick but he died.
So its likely Door and Tim are one of their projections in time line created by Alan book.
Haven't played Alan Wake 2 as of this comment but what I found interesiting was the "Show me the Champion of Light, I'll show you the Herald of Darkness" part of the chourus.
I tokk it as a way of saying that Alan plays both parts. Don't know if that is the meaning behind it but with him writing the Stories (?) he sort of is both. The Champion of Light while he lives through these events but also the Herald of darkness when he is writing them
Well - yes, you got that right.
SAM LAKE AMAZING!!!
It is a brilliant song. Once you finish the game a couple of times, and if you know all about RCU and have been a fan of Remedy, you will understand how amazing this piece of music is. It is a masterpiece. The whole game is a masterpiece. Not because of the game mechanics but because of Sam Lake and his brilliant writing. It is amazing how everything clicks and connects. It is perfectly satisfying.
The song "The Labyrinth" by PotF was supposed to be in Quantum Break. Don't remember why it ultimately wasn't used.
TLDR for Warlin Door without spoiling analyzing for AW2.0
The chat show host; Warlin Door is another permentantion of Martin Hatch.
We were first introduced in Quantum Break, played by Lance Riddick, who was signed on to do AW2 before he sadly passed away.
He's also mentioned by name by Jessie's brother as someone whom refused to help him break the Hiss across dimensions.
Basically he's some whose able to see and move through all layers of Space and time. His exact motives in AW2 are unclear.
@@TheCursedCat1927 Yes he legally has to derive difference, same for max payne., but like even if not literally the same....they are.
your hiring the same people, putting them in the same outfits, giving them the same abilites and telling them to effect the same performance. and your changing Hatch to door. We are ment to read these as being the same.
First Remedy game where Poets Of The Fall had a song in was Max Payne 2.
"Late Goodbye" was the song's name.
Alan Waje is not a game... it is an experience!
the host, I won't say his name, is played by David Harewood, who played in that CallOf in space with Kit Harrington and also J'on J'onzz in Supergirl from start to finish.
Got to the section of the game where this takes place and just had the biggest shit-eating grin on my face. Im 22, ive seen alot of what games have to offer in terms of innovation and brilliant design and this moment ranks close to the top. Good reaction bro. Known of your channel for a good few years, its good to see you still around and kicking with a great setup upgrade by the looks of it
I love these songs, I do wish they hadn't cut out as much as they do when they made the non-game versions (especially the Ashtray Maze/Take Control). There was so many good bits recorded in both the Ashtray Maze and We Sing that never made it to the 'single'. In this version of Herald of Darkness I think the jazzy portion of the song comes to an end way too quickly making it not fit in as well as it would have if it'd had more of what was in the game.
To be fair, the pacing here is made specifically with the game in mind.
When it comes to making it an actual song, the pacing we got in the "Single" versions (especially the TGA performance) works way better in that context.
@@TheCursedCat1927 I'm not saying they had to use everything made to fill time in the game, but Take Control was turned into more of a straight rock single (ALA a typical POTF song) instead of the more proggy songs they've released as Old Gods.
Herald of Darkness is my favorite segment of the game because you can just tell that for all the wacky and i mean, imagine your sitting in the break room being told your about to be part of a musical and everyone's like "is... is Sam for real here?" joking and making fun of the whole thing like it's not being taken seriously...
And then you see that it payed off because everyone is just having a blast during the performance, like sure the initial reaction was "This cannot be for real..." but then it's like "Ok that was a ton of fun once I got into it!" you can see the actors are having *Fun* and that's always a wonderful thing to see. :)
Best Theme in a videogame in years
It slaps so fucking hard. I watch a playthrough (hehe broke bitch hours) and when this came on I kinda had to pick up my jaw once it hit me that this was _really happening._ It's weird, it's beautiful, and good gods is it definitely Alan Wake.
During gameplay the characters interact with the player who is actually fighting and running "through" the video.
Alan is called the champion of light in the spin off game Alan Wake's American Nightmare
SHOW ME THE CHAMPION OF LIGHT!!!!
I’ll show you the Herald of Darkness!
It's insanely _artistical_ piece in gameplay. Never ever seen or even thought that someone would create music within game to tell player what happened in previous title to give background to story. I've played through first AW and when this scene came up in sequel and I realized what it's doing my appreciation to Remedy Entertaiments and POTF/OGOA band rose to a completely different heights. This scene will be hard to go beyond. 12/10 for them. Hell musical tailored to support gameplay. Try to convince me other, but that's cool as F.
*edit*
Very minor spoiler. It was also quite clever move to bind Alan Wake and Control series to each other in story level.
The same timeframe question could be asked if The Return of Twin Peaks, especially since the 25 years is mentioned in season one, episode three, in 1990. How much was intentionally, especially around the time of not only working out a deal on a new season but being actually 25 years irl. Like at that point was there a deal then a decision to wait two years to start since why not?
In Alan Wake the 13 years isnt mentioned that I'm aware of. But The Lynch references go beyond Twin Peaks in AW2
When Saga finds Alan on the beach, she mentions that he's been missing for 13 years.
@MetalHeadReacts It's still in the second game and not mentioned in the very first game, afaik. And in the original Twin Peaks series the 25 years is mentioned in the first Black Lodge dream.
just to make it clear if poets of the fall did many musics for remedy games, the old gods of asgard were made up for alan wake as part of the plot "spoilers after this point" it is part of the story being theses creators are being used by the witch of the lake to make things (mostly nightmares) come true out of their creativity.
the only other links that exist actualy are with control, alan wake american nightmare and alan wake 2, there are two songs in alan wake (the poet and the muse and children of the elder god) one in alan wake american nightmare (balance slays the demon) one in control (take control) and one in alan wake 2 (herald of darkness)
all together they do write out parts of the story of this conex univers being, old gods of asgard having powers to make things come true through their music, poet and the muse being the begining of alan wake telling you they are at the origin of him going to the lake with his wife, balance slays the demon his basicaly telling that alan wake can do something to fight the demons from the stories he wrote to find a way out of the story, control is explaining that you need to take control of the power of your imagination to get to the end of things, and finaly herald of darkness being a recap of the situation of alan wake telling you he is being the hero of the light (the torch bearer) the one to destroy the darkness they created as the old gods of asgard planed their escape route from the witches powers by giving alan wake the power to destroy theses demons.
from what i understand from the story alan wake was called by the witch to the lake because the old gods of asgard included him as part of their plan to destroy the witch, leading him to write a story that will ultimately end her but by doing so he woke up the source of her powers being a demon that took alan's face and place in the real world to force him to keep on writing more things and he now has to destroy that demon as he is the champion of light brought here by the old gods of asgard to fight the herald of darkness (the demon that now is the one trapping him in his own stories)
he is not responsible for the darkness despite what we are made to think, but he is the champion of light chosen by the old gods of asgard that saw the potential through his stories knowing that being the writer he is, he would interest the witch, it being a subtil trap because the dark stories he writes should end well but his writing and personal story are similar to thomas zane making him the perfect candidate to being the hero they need to save the creators that are traped under the witches/demon spell.
Playing though this level the first time blew my mind. Due to a glitch I had to play it again and it had more impact.
Not I've watched The Asgard video like 10 times. It's really damn good as is the game.
Also THE HAPPY SONG MV With Alan Wake ( Character )Found in Poets of the Fall
a metalhead and also a McLaren fan, great taste!
This is absolutely ridiculous and way over the top, and I freaking love it
You had me worried for a second... 😂😂
The song does recap Alan's past and the events of the first game; but, all the sections song by the Old God's are filled with forshadowing for further in the game. The Old God's are trying to help Alan.
Not just the Old Gods, it's heavily implied that this is Mr. Door trying to help Alan to remember what happened to him and why he's stuck in the Dark Place.
One of the Best moments in videogames history
Damn! Sorry I missed this live. I *LOVE* Poets of the Fall and if you haven't I highly suggest checking out the Alexander Theater Sessions. It's basically just Marko and Olli playing acoustic versions of their songs in a big empty theater. Some of their songs just hit different in that place and I tell anyone who is a fan to check it out
The Alexander theater sessions version of War was amazing
In control which takes place in 2019 the FBC gets an AWE alert frol Bright Falls years in the future so i think it was their intention.
Quantum Break had no new original Poets of the Fall songs, but you do hear Old Gods of Asgard's Children of the Elder God at one point.
Would be a bit different, but if you havent already heard/reacted to it, take a gander at Yötön Yö from AW2 as well. Finnish tango, but with a darker twist to the lyrics. Sung in Finnish but the game/clips have english translation in them.
Well, Finnish tango is the mission in Control where Ahti's song shows up, but the actual song name is Sankarin tango (Hero's tango).
@@castform57 Different song, there's Sankarin Tango in Control and Yötön Yö in Alan Wake 2.
it kinda has the melody from swedish eurodance track called russian lullaby
One of the best moment in Alan Wake 2 my god I was blown away and confused but I ended up enjoy the level's song its so good to listen glad I can listen to it on the go :)
I saved one my games right before, so I can go back.
The poet and the muse from the first game
It would be great to react on Dark Ocean Summoning, since it's true metal song from AW 2 and phenomenal one
i so enjoy the flying V guitar solos
I don't think the wait between iterations was on purpose, since they had to buy the rights back from Microsoft in 2019. Alan Wake 1 also didn't do well upon release, even though it was critically loved and developed a cult following over time. American Nightmare only really happened because they were working on some stuff for a sequel that wasn't really going to plan and Microsoft demanded something for the work they were putting in. After that, as far as I know, they were encouraged to work on a new IP, which was when they did Quantum Break. They were only really able to return to Alan Wake proper after they split from Microsoft and got the rights to the IP back fully.
Alan Wake 1 came out May 18, 2010 in North America
Is that a Fernando Alonso F1 car from 2005-2006? Love the reaction and your explanation!
It is a Lego Technic McLaren F1 car from 2022.
And thank you ☺
So glad I got to watch this reaction from British Patrick Rothfuss!
Thanks?
I don't know who that is, but I'm going to take it as a compliment. 😅😅
@@MetalHeadReacts You vaguely resemble beloved fantasy author Patrick Rothfuss. I was just being silly. Definitely feel free to take it as a compliment. 😄
React Dark Ocean Summoning - Old God Of Asgard ❤🔥🔥🔥
for the music make to video game just amazing
Alan Wake kind of was trying to sace his marriage, it wasn't outright said in the first game, but Doctor Hartman had been in contact with Alice Wake by phone, they use a spliced together recording of the conversation where she was talking about her concern for Alan's negative behaviour as a result of his writers block and stress to pretend to have her as a hostage and bait Alan. Coming to Bright Falls was Hartman's idea
I remember it being the doctors idea, I didn't remember it being to save their marriage, like I said, it had been a long time since playing the original, so I suppose it's understandable that I forgot some of the details...
Alan wake 1 best part : corn field fight with children of the elder god playing
I'm going to start alan wake 2 tomorrow and I guess I already know which part is going to win the awards
I am subscribed and have rung the bell but I have missed some of your vids as they are not appearing on my notifications list. I am guessing that this is a youtube issue. Is this something you can report to RUclips?
It's been an issue I've seen happen a few times on other channels too. The only suggestion that comes back is to unclick the bell and then re-click it.
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There's a retcon in the first game. Alan was afraid of the dark, but they attributed that also to Alice.
Pretty sure it's not a retcon. Alan was scared and had constant nightmares as a kid, but was able to overcome his fears when his mom gave him the Clicker. Alice however, had nyctophobia, a fear of the dark that persisted into her adulthood.
@@Yoxiv if i remember. The story might have changed who had the fear. It was like Alan was no longer scared
Why is it these fake video game bands are often way way way more awesome than non-fictional counterparts?!
The Midnight Riders within Left 4 Dead are solid gold too.
Nice Mc Laren prototype.
As for Zane and Alan it's pretty convoluted but the end of AW implied that Zane wrote himself out of reality except for a box and then the box had the lightswitch. Maybe Pandora's Box? The lightswitch but also a page about the beginning of Wake's life, and the childhood memory of mom getting the lightswitch. So is the lightswitch hope? Or is Alan? There is a heavy suggestion that Zane created Alan and uncreated himself and thus Alan is actually him creating a loophole to get out of the dark place which both works and doesnt work. Also this part of the plot and multiple people both being amd playjng mutlitple versions of themselves written into out of and around it make this thread much more like Inland Empire than Twin Peaks. The whole getting trapped inba reality that others got trapped in before by trying to make the same movie that was initally failedbl at finishing...anyone who's reading this and got this far if you didnt get Inland Empire entirely (as much as it can be) then play AW2 (and maybe the first and Control) and then go back to Inland Empire. There are aspects of AW2 that made me see IE in a brand new light or perspective(s)
It was Alan who writed page about Zane writing.
Zane was not a writer, he was movies director and actor. Diver who helps Alan is one of Zane characters from his movie.
Zane left a hint and Alan used it to write Zane and his help into story. They did it together.
@Velanteg Jessie Faden remembers Zane as a poet though. The implication is that he was originally a writer and that aspect of him was written out of existence, and Faden is one of those who remember...until they are gaslit into not believing their own memories any more.
@@dothiussteele Diver-poet is not a Zane, its character of his movie. He said about it himself.
@@Velanteg I didn't say anything about Diver Zane. I was talking about Poet Zane. 🫠🙃
@@dothiussteele Its same person.
This song is so in THE HIM style 😅
lady of the lake
your chair is so metal. /s
I know, right?
I know you're being sarcastic, but I like it. I can make it any colour I want, I happen to like purple. But then, my chair isn't there to please you, and how having it light up purple makes it "not metal" is just confusing... That's like saying Corpsegrinder is "not metal" because he plays arcade games to win cuddly toys for kids. It's not done to impress you, it's done because it's something we like. So... What was the point in trying to mock me? It gets you nothing and just kind of makes you out to look like a petty fool.
first part alan wake didn't but the people he wrote in did, he wrote him a way to escape
ya he did have writers block, first game allice kinda tricked him
Yeah it's best to not watch it until you get to that scene in game.
"Show me the Champion of Light!"
"I'll show you the Herald of Darkness!"
Steven King's son: "Look, dad! A bug!"
Steven King: "Look, son! The devil!"
This could easily be an Iron Maiden song
I get an Iron Mauden vibe from Old Gods songs but un an intentional way, to separate the styles between their bands as well as intentionally make them sound a metal band from the Old Gods timeframe would sound like authentically. It's quite well done.
Well this song isn't really a spoiler if you have played the first game so you were fine
The best part though is that crazy segment popping out of nowhere.
But you didn't listen the extended version. That versión is more amazing
I wasn't aware there was an extended version...
@@MetalHeadReacts ruclips.net/video/Vr9ckGk76NM/видео.htmlsi=JfkRjdj4CZ0ZykZ5 it's more crazy almost 22 minutes of pleasure with solo guitar
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It is catchy. But something with the chorus bugs me. The word “night” in the third line needs to be sung at the same pitch as the word “light” in the first line. That would give the chorus some vocal symmetry.
My honest reaction on hearing the First commentary after the whole segment to be a negative one, is closing the video. Not your case!
What?
First thing I said was "what an utterly ridiculous piece of music that was, but it was brilliant."
I absolutely loved the song and video...
@@MetalHeadReacts oh no no Sorry, It was entirely My bad on not specifying... Its because i've watched many reactions on, due to lack of context, the person reacting Just attack the whole thing, not your case! Sorry my bad, i'll edit my commentary!
No hate or anything, but watching this outside the context of the game feels like a crime
You may be right, but I REALY wanted to hear the song!! 🤣🤣
Hits way harder ingame, but this is a cool way to merge it. Definitely doesn't work as well without the gameplay interuptions and constant looping to adjust to each player
So why not play the damn game instead of watching a video?
The game version of the song is longer and the video is the official band version for RUclips. Watching the RUclips band and Remedy approved version is probably much better for revenue than a recording of a video game playthrough, that would also increase the length of the ntire video by probably 5 to 10 minutes, since the recent video version cuts out about 4 to 5 minutes of the song and even the radio in the writers room version is still slightly shorter than the game playthrough by a small or large margin depending on skill and exploration.