1) For those that don't know, Boss pedals are buffered so that there is no tone sucking, which is nice. 2) The main reason for the "loop" built into this pedal is that the input section of the pedal circuit senses the original input, then compares it to what is going out of the output jack on the pedal. The NS2 attenuates the noise accordingly. This helps avoid over attenuation (or tone sucking).
Thanks for the info. If one does want to check on the tone to be safe, is it simply a matter of clicking the pedal off or would it have to be completely unwired and removed from the loop to check for tonal changes?
Great video - saved me buying two gates! That seems to be a good idea if your amp is feeding back noise in the preamp before the fx loop, but mine probably isn't gonna be doing that... fingers crossed....
This is THE best video on how to use this pedal effectively, you explained it so well, even I can understand how to use it. Thank You so much, now off to go get me a boss ns-2.
Hah finally someone who uses it like this! Awesome video! Maybe you should mention that time based effects like loopers, as well as delays and reverbs have to be placed after the whole noise reduction thing (between the NS-2s output and the effects return/poweramp) to avoid cutting off your nice delay and reverb trails :-)
+Chris S. Yes that is a good suggestion.. my bad i didnt mention it and focused only on the amp and drive pedal noise. :) time based stuff after noise reduction.
Perfect explanation, and perfect Spanish pronuntiation!!. Dos perfects in one message ;) Thank you for the explanation, it is useful for a newbie in using noise reductors like me :) Greetings from Spain.
Thank goodness someone has correctly demonstrated/described situation two at 1:50 👍. Just looked at the Boss Manual which to be fair does show this type of situation, but it depicts a Tuner and Compressor in the loop. The manual should show an OD/DIST pedal in the loop; as far as I know, tuners are not known for creating noise 🤔.
Hello Subu Nomo, just got one of these very cheap on ebay (had no noise problem actually, but it was like 30€ shipping included). Thanks for teaching me how to use it! Greetings from germany
Muhammad Haryandi Noise doesn't affect the Note you are playing in terms of tuning. Anyways if you place the tuner after the noisegate it might be annoying since the gate will cut your notes sustain and make it much more complicated to tune your guitar/bass.
Thank You for a "Great" Video my friend. Your time and efforts are appreciated very much. I have a PRS Sonzera 50W Combo (which I love) but the "Hum" was a bit loud with 8 pedals (now 9 with the NS-2). The way you have it connected works great with your setup. It's my 1st Noise Suppressor so I wasn't quite sure of the correct way to do it. Thank You again...
Yes, I feel that a noise suppressor with an effects loop is a big deal. In addition battery is also vital in some cases. There are not many that have both features. The battery deal I love as it does not take up one of my power supplies. Good ob.
I love you man ,,, great video ... I'm looking to do some quieting down on the amp & strat ,,, you know the deal ... you give me all three solid methods ,,, you got the best video on this ... thanks 👍👍👍👍. D
I have no fx loop on my amp, but want to use other pedals after the noise gate. What's next? Do I just connect the noise gate to the next pedal input then the last pedal output to the amp? Or is there a better way of doing this? Thanks for the video and any response!
AMAZING MAN !!! I just bought BOSS NS-2 with a COMPRESSOR and that was an information I was looking for ... does it work also with an acoustic guitar ? :)
I haven’t been able to use my pedals to it’s potential due to the feedback it gives when all plugged in, I’m a beginner at this so I thought I spent 100$ on a broken noise suppressor but thanks to this video I got it and it works wonders! Thank you so very much!!
What do you think about this way: Guitar --> (Input)NS2(Send) --> (Input)Some noisy pedals(output) --> (Return)NS2(Output) --> (Input)Amp instead of this way 2:04 you said. Thanks a lot for the video!
Jonah Paz ....thats interesting. A vidro i watched on the boss compression sustainer ( it has the same inputs and outputs) said to use it like you described. I wonder if it should be used like this video describes.
+CoffeeDrinker71 thank you so much. Cheers from india and please dont hesitate to suggest video ideas or if there is something you need to learn. Maybe i can help :)
Awesome video! Thank you so much for this quick, layman explanation. Great job! A footnote for the "tone sucking" aspect of the noise gate: if you are using it purely for your gain channel, you can set you tone to compensate, since the pedsl will be, more or less, a "set and forget" pedal. I only ever worry about tone suckage from, say, a delay. You most likely won't use your delay all the time, so if there is a sizable tone shift between wet and dry, it can be quite daunting. My Marshall TSL 100 has two effects loops, so I would use the Noise gate/suppressor in the 2nd (crunch/lead) loop, and a reverb in the 1st (clean) unsuppressed. I'd dial in the tones to compensate, and done! Thanks again
he definitely knows how to set up that pedal. this is so helpful. Thanks a lot !!!AND recently I bought cheap noise gate which have two knobs ( output & sensitivity) and two jacks (input & output)here are the questions :1. where would you put the pedal ( my amp has FX loop)2. My MXR yjm308 booster is too noise when it engages(that's the reson I bought) should I put it after the 308?Thanks a ton Nomo. really appreciate it
@@SubuNomo I can't remember where I heard about it, pretty sure it was a RUclips video, but it does seem to compress and tighten up the signal and the sound. I hear the difference with no other effects on. Just sounds better.
@@SubuNomo Give it a shot and hit me back if you can hear a difference. Could just be my rig, but I've always heard a big improvement in sound quality with it on, and not just in noise reduction.
i respect you for reusing that soda bottle. reusing plastics helps us reduce overall waste. its a small step, but everything helps. oh and thanks for the pedal demo, just what i was looking for
Hi , I understand the 4CM and the general concept of an fx loop; but I don't understand the difference between using the ns2 input or loop. Because at first he plugged the guitar to the input and it worked, so the pedal took care of the noise of what was before it(guitar pickups iI guess). If that's the case, why the need of a send return?Why not just put every noisy pedal before, since it works with everything coming in anyway, like it did in first example. Thanks
Great and useful video. Your presentation was clear and to the point. Wish you the best of luck on your youtube channel. From an indian brother from the south :)
@@ThunderMetal-o3n nah, normal (shielded) instrument cables. Speaker cables are unshielded and are only for use when connecting the head to the cab, i.e, power amp out to the speaker.
Hi. In the third method, how should the gate be powered? from the power supply in the effects loop or from the power supply before the preamplifier. The idea is to avoid the ground loop effect.
The loop on the NS-2 creates a circuit within itself where the objects placed inside it are expanded. The NS-2 reads the guitar signal at the input and gates at the output using the 4 wire method. It is also a stomp box pedal with limitations, I’ve experienced problems isolating my heads preamp in combination with an over drive and compressor (keely pro into moog mf drive into amp isolating with ns-2). The 4 wire meathod is great for isolating something like a gain stage before an amp if you’re running something else in between that and the amp. It’s very hard to find a proper explanation of how the NS-2 loop actually works, hope this helped some people who wanted to know a little more in depth of the operation of it. As a side note there is a circuit within the NS-2 which filters noise from sound which can only be accessed in the loop so that is the real benefit of using it on top of being able to use a single gate for an isolated circuit instead of one at the front and one at the rear like some guys tend to do.................... for some reason.
Hi. very good video. Many musicians use a TS800 to boost the distortion of our amp (in my case Metal) and that produces a lot of noise. Maybe you should add something like that, in my case I do something similar to the third example that you give, the only difference is that I connect the TS808 to the input of the NS2 and it works quite well. saludos desde Chile
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This still the best explanation on RUclips of how to use the NS-2. Anytime somebody asks me how to set theirs up, I just send them here.
Watched this video about 10 times because I always forget how to do this. Thanks for making it.
Me too.... I run reverb and delay and a few other effects thru my effects loop on my 5150iii I wonder how this would affect those?🤔🤔🤔
B Floyd run your gate before your modulation effects (reverb,chorus,flanger,etc.)
Very helpful and straight forward.
Yup
Your video maybe 7 years old but it’s the first I’ve seen that clearly demonstrates the loop method. Thank you Subu
finnaly. someone that can explain the effects loop in simple terms .
thank you
Johnny Dollar thank you for the kind words. Cheers from India
1) For those that don't know, Boss pedals are buffered so that there is no tone sucking, which is nice.
2) The main reason for the "loop" built into this pedal is that the input section of the pedal circuit senses the original input, then compares it to what is going out of the output jack on the pedal. The NS2 attenuates the noise accordingly. This helps avoid over attenuation (or tone sucking).
Thanks for the info. If one does want to check on the tone to be safe, is it simply a matter of clicking the pedal off or would it have to be completely unwired and removed from the loop to check for tonal changes?
I found adjusting the 2 knobs correctly made my sound great without playing with more cords
I have those same Planet Waves cables, bought about 14 years ago and never had an issue. Solid choice
Thank you my guy for doing every possible step and where you can plug it in I had questions you answered them through an observable experience. Ty
This will come in handy as my amp has an effects loop. Thanks a lot.
Awesome video! Most people on YT aren't showing method/situation 2 of your video and I think that's very useful for amps with no fx loop.
Thank you. I needed method 2 and went through 3 or 4 other videos before finding this. Much appreciated!
Great video - saved me buying two gates! That seems to be a good idea if your amp is feeding back noise in the preamp before the fx loop, but mine probably isn't gonna be doing that... fingers crossed....
I've been looking everywhere for this video. The most informative with the least BS
This is THE best video on how to use this pedal effectively, you explained it so well, even I can understand how to use it. Thank You so much, now off to go get me a boss ns-2.
Thank you so much for the kind words David, and all the best. Do let me know if you need some follow up help.
i think only you and one other person have uploaded a video showing the correct way to set up a noise gate pedal. bravo subu!
Thank you so much man. Always glad to share 🙂
Hah finally someone who uses it like this! Awesome video! Maybe you should mention that time based effects like loopers, as well as delays and reverbs have to be placed after the whole noise reduction thing (between the NS-2s output and the effects return/poweramp) to avoid cutting off your nice delay and reverb trails :-)
+Chris S. Yes that is a good suggestion.. my bad i didnt mention it and focused only on the amp and drive pedal noise. :) time based stuff after noise reduction.
But what if your noisy pedal IS a delay?
ill try this!
if its a delay, put the noise reduction after it. if the delay is the first of your modulation efects, you will be fine.
Nice.. how about if your amp doesn't have effect loop where do I place my delay, reverbs etc. thanks
Very good video. No more searching in Threads. You nailed it in one video. Thank you!
Just got a tube amp and this is exactly the answer I was looking for!! Thanks!
the best simple explaination, thnak you so much. very clear
Perfect explanation, and perfect Spanish pronuntiation!!. Dos perfects in one message ;)
Thank you for the explanation, it is useful for a newbie in using noise reductors like me :)
Greetings from Spain.
Carlos Esgueva thank you man. I am glad i could help you out!! :) hello from India.
Thanks for the video!
This vid is the one I was looking for to answer my question; if the NS2 can be looped to itself. 🎸😉👍
You’re one of the few guys on here who knows what they are doing. Subscribed.
The best explanation of this pedal. Tanks.
Thank you so much :)
Thank goodness someone has correctly demonstrated/described situation two at 1:50 👍. Just looked at the Boss Manual which to be fair does show this type of situation, but it depicts a Tuner and Compressor in the loop. The manual should show an OD/DIST pedal in the loop; as far as I know, tuners are not known for creating noise 🤔.
Thanks!! 🙂...
Also, They really did demo it that way in the manual? Oh dear. 😬
Thank you.
Thanks a lot :) Was thinking of getting a noise gate soon !
Thanks for the valuable info to help a noisy amp appreciate it my friend
Great video! Thank you!
Thank you. You covered this much better then other videos.
Loved the Rob Chapman greetings
Excellent explanation, thanks!
Great video Subu !
Thanks for making had pedal for about 20 years lost manual
Basic and clean video.Thanks
AWESOME ADVICE THANKS
Veeeery well explanation! Thanks
Hello Subu Nomo,
just got one of these very cheap on ebay (had no noise problem actually, but it was like 30€ shipping included). Thanks for teaching me how to use it! Greetings from germany
+The Defenestrator i am so glad i could be of help man. Also, Germany is awesome!
Muhammad Haryandi tuner first, then into noise gate
The Defenestrator the signal will still be undisturbed for exact tuning?
Muhammad Haryandi Noise doesn't affect the Note you are playing in terms of tuning. Anyways if you place the tuner after the noisegate it might be annoying since the gate will cut your notes sustain and make it much more complicated to tune your guitar/bass.
This video was a godsend mate
Thanks 🙏
Really good Noise gate tutorial!
Thanks, a great video, sharp & clear. Will try the 3rd method 👍👍😁
Thank You for a "Great" Video my friend. Your time and efforts are appreciated very much. I have a PRS Sonzera 50W Combo (which I love) but the "Hum" was a bit loud with 8 pedals (now 9 with the NS-2). The way you have it connected works great with your setup. It's my 1st Noise Suppressor so I wasn't quite sure of the correct way to do it. Thank You again...
Glad I could be of assistance :) Cheers from India!
Thanks for this helpful video!
I have the same Maxxon was super noisey especially with my hot pickups but yeah man this shit saved my ass for live situations. THANK YOU@!
+Doug Cleary i am glad i could help you out. Noise can get real annoying.
Much help.
Thanks bro 👍🏽
best video to learn about this
Thanks very much! Very nice video, helps me a lot.
Yes, I feel that a noise suppressor with an effects loop is a big deal. In addition battery is also vital in some cases. There are not many that have both features. The battery deal I love as it does not take up one of my power supplies. Good ob.
Excellent video dude. Much more helpful than most. Have you made any videos on pedal board set up?
Very good! Thanks! Muito obrigado!
I love you man ,,, great video ... I'm looking to do some quieting down on the amp & strat ,,, you know the deal ... you give me all three solid methods ,,, you got the best video on this ... thanks 👍👍👍👍. D
Thank you so much dude! :)
This is really helpful for the newbie
I have no fx loop on my amp, but want to use other pedals after the noise gate. What's next? Do I just connect the noise gate to the next pedal input then the last pedal output to the amp? Or is there a better way of doing this? Thanks for the video and any response!
I'd like to know the answer to this question too.
AMAZING MAN !!! I just bought BOSS NS-2 with a COMPRESSOR and that was an information I was looking for ... does it work also with an acoustic guitar ? :)
Chris Ellys it definitely would!!
Great video Subu. Could u make a demostration of the tone sucking you mentioned at the end of the video?
Great video man, thanks a lot for this! Cheers!
Well explained, thanks 👍🏻
great video! well explained.
Great content, great humor. Thanks!
Very good video thank you bro!!!
Thanks man. Finally someone.
EVERYONE gets that last one wrong, well done
Great video! Well presented. Do you have one showing how to adjust the gate?
This was great!!! Thanks for sharing my friend!!!
Bro good video. Noises suppressor will help whit a ground loop on my amp.
I haven’t been able to use my pedals to it’s potential due to the feedback it gives when all plugged in, I’m a beginner at this so I thought I spent 100$ on a broken noise suppressor but thanks to this video I got it and it works wonders! Thank you so very much!!
Always welcome.... and I see a profile photo of DEATH. :)
@@SubuNomo yes sir! My all time favorite band 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Excellent explanation thank you Subu Nomo
Thank you :) cheers from india
+Kh2o you are welcome :)
🙏 thank you Sir ! Very helpful
that was usefull for 100%.
good video.
thnx dude
+Lex Ftc always welcome and cheers from india :)
Great video ! Thanks
THANK YOU ! you helped me out big time.
Super helpful, thanks!
What do you think about this way: Guitar --> (Input)NS2(Send) --> (Input)Some noisy pedals(output) --> (Return)NS2(Output) --> (Input)Amp instead of this way 2:04 you said.
Thanks a lot for the video!
Jonah Paz ....thats interesting. A vidro i watched on the boss compression sustainer ( it has the same inputs and outputs) said to use it like you described. I wonder if it should be used like this video describes.
Nice demonstration...!!
This was very helpful. Thanks. Subbed.
+CoffeeDrinker71 thank you so much. Cheers from india and please dont hesitate to suggest video ideas or if there is something you need to learn. Maybe i can help :)
I just picked up a used NS-2 on eBay based on this. I'm anxious to try it out! :)
+CoffeeDrinker71 so glad i could be of assistance :) cheers from india
Thanks Subbed I love your answer about tone suckle
Awesome video! Thank you so much for this quick, layman explanation. Great job! A footnote for the "tone sucking" aspect of the noise gate: if you are using it purely for your gain channel, you can set you tone to compensate, since the pedsl will be, more or less, a "set and forget" pedal. I only ever worry about tone suckage from, say, a delay. You most likely won't use your delay all the time, so if there is a sizable tone shift between wet and dry, it can be quite daunting. My Marshall TSL 100 has two effects loops, so I would use the Noise gate/suppressor in the 2nd (crunch/lead) loop, and a reverb in the 1st (clean) unsuppressed. I'd dial in the tones to compensate, and done! Thanks again
he definitely knows how to set up that pedal. this is so helpful. Thanks a lot !!!AND recently I bought cheap noise gate which have two knobs ( output & sensitivity) and two jacks (input & output)here are the questions :1. where would you put the pedal ( my amp has FX loop)2. My MXR yjm308 booster is too noise when it engages(that's the reson I bought) should I put it after the 308?Thanks a ton Nomo. really appreciate it
It's also a very effective compressor. Everything sounds better through it. Especially distortion.
I use it only as a "last resort". Well, I don't know much about the compressor part... Care to explain? 🙂
@@SubuNomo I can't remember where I heard about it, pretty sure it was a RUclips video, but it does seem to compress and tighten up the signal and the sound. I hear the difference with no other effects on. Just sounds better.
@@satevo462 hmm, sounds interesting. I should give it a shot
@@SubuNomo Give it a shot and hit me back if you can hear a difference. Could just be my rig, but I've always heard a big improvement in sound quality with it on, and not just in noise reduction.
God bless the guy who invented the NS-2 !
Whoever the person is, our lives are saved! God bless!
Great video and info, thanks!
i respect you for reusing that soda bottle. reusing plastics helps us reduce overall waste. its a small step, but everything helps.
oh and thanks for the pedal demo, just what i was looking for
Thank you. And yes, recycle, reuse, reduce :)
Good explanation, got a Subscribe
Hi , I understand the 4CM and the general concept of an fx loop; but I don't understand the difference between using the ns2 input or loop. Because at first he plugged the guitar to the input and it worked, so the pedal took care of the noise of what was before it(guitar pickups iI guess). If that's the case, why the need of a send return?Why not just put every noisy pedal before, since it works with everything coming in anyway, like it did in first example. Thanks
Informative video - cheers
Very good
All these tests i've seen for this on youtube are with suppressors powered by 9v batteries. Did you check the noise with the NS powered from the wall?
XLNT.Thank you :)
really thanks , i have a good day now
Welcome man. Glad to be of help.
Great and useful video. Your presentation was clear and to the point. Wish you the best of luck on your youtube channel. From an indian brother from the south :)
Thank you man. Wish you the same.... Indian brother from Arunachal here :)
Thanx man! I just bought one because of this video! Great pedal and excelent explanation of how to use it properly
Do you use speaker cables when going to the back of the amp amd from there to the return ?
@@ThunderMetal-o3n nah, normal (shielded) instrument cables. Speaker cables are unshielded and are only for use when connecting the head to the cab, i.e, power amp out to the speaker.
Hi. In the third method, how should the gate be powered? from the power supply in the effects loop or from the power supply before the preamplifier. The idea is to avoid the ground loop effect.
The loop on the NS-2 creates a circuit within itself where the objects placed inside it are expanded. The NS-2 reads the guitar signal at the input and gates at the output using the 4 wire method. It is also a stomp box pedal with limitations, I’ve experienced problems isolating my heads preamp in combination with an over drive and compressor (keely pro into moog mf drive into amp isolating with ns-2).
The 4 wire meathod is great for isolating something like a gain stage before an amp if you’re running something else in between that and the amp.
It’s very hard to find a proper explanation of how the NS-2 loop actually works, hope this helped some people who wanted to know a little more in depth of the operation of it.
As a side note there is a circuit within the NS-2 which filters noise from sound which can only be accessed in the loop so that is the real benefit of using it on top of being able to use a single gate for an isolated circuit instead of one at the front and one at the rear like some guys tend to do.................... for some reason.
in effect the NS2 becomes an effects loop for amps without effects loops.
Thank you, very helpful
Este chico lo explico muy bien
Hi. very good video. Many musicians use a TS800 to boost the distortion of our amp (in my case Metal) and that produces a lot of noise. Maybe you should add something like that, in my case I do something similar to the third example that you give, the only difference is that I connect the TS808 to the input of the NS2 and it works quite well. saludos desde Chile
Awesome - thanks man
Great video!
Thank you Subu. Nice tutorial. More tutorial videos...:D
What if I’m running a distortion pedal with a noise gate and I have a fx loop?
EXCELLENT VIDEO