I asked you about releasing an Etruscan video a couple of months ago. Ive been patiently waiting for this one since Etruscan history is so interesting. Great vid!
Hey man. Youre genuinely one of my favorite history podcasts, and as a blind hermit I absorb them like Netflix fans do their new shows, and love how you've expanded lately. I was long tired of Rome, but your covering of the Republic, and Consuls ignited interest in it yet again. The same applies to the American Civil War. Are you ever going to cover Bronze Age Collapse topics? I'm particularly interested in the Luwians
Hi, I'm glad to hear that you enjoy my videos and the range of topics that I cover. I have been planning to cover both Gaius Terentius Varro and Narses for a while now, but I have been a bit too busy to pull it off in recent weeks. Right now, I am also working on videos for class focusing on Rome and I will probably share those at some point in the near future. As for the Bronze Age, that is something that I plan to cover for sure. I'm not sure when I will be able to cover the Luwians, Hittites, or any other Bronze Age people, but my guess would be that I will get around to topics like that by the end of summer or early fall.
@@ThersitestheHistorian THKU for delving into this subject. I believe if we look deeper into early Florence & Sienna we could get a better understanding of the context for their politics and society. in reference to the use of the word ''sacrifice'', this is a anti-matriarchal & racially loaded word. it draws the meaning into a 'barbaric' practice that is morally judged today. in contemporary times this word's meaning conveys a thirst for killing by pre-christian humans & 'senseless' murder. but truly this supposed lust for blood is romanticized to make humanity feel that we are progressively 'better' than our ancient or modern cousins. the fact remains that animals killed for religious reason were never wasted nor were they killed for the love of killing. all animals 'sacrificed' were given to someone to eat. if animal liver was used for religious reasons, that was just 1 small part 'given' to extract a spiritual value. I know this bcuz there are many cultures living today in Africa & Asia & Australia that are classified as Bronze Age culture, with religious practices dating back over 5000 years. modern humans may have changed biologically but emotionally we are NO different. we love & we lose loved ones & we grieve. Humanity could not have survived without the INTENTIONAL respect for Life that has followed us from the trees to the gardens to the fields of Civilization. not to say that Humanity is 'without sin' but in another context, how many lives have been 'sacrificed' to the Industrial Age of 'cheap labor' & the economic fuedal systems?
@@yarazooom Where is the racial "racist" context for the word "sacrifice"? You can't just claim a word as racist and then never elaborate! Lol. I don't want to assume this is some SJW BS....but I really don't see how race can be tied to something so universal as animal/human sacrifice for religious reasons
@@yarazooom Also "anti-matriarchial"? WTF? How?!?!?! How could it be construed as such? Seriously I know this comment was over a year old.....but wtf are you going on about here?!?!?!
@@itsolivier I remember reading the term in the history books, but then I actually lived in Prague this year and saw the old Town Hall for myself. The tower and floors are really small so it makes sense now.
@@timothyrday1390 It was explained they survived due to a deep manure pile. I remember looking at a video of that wall and thinking that must have been one massive manure pile. Most likely horse, but not something a person willingly contacted. Better than breaking your neck,but....
(11:38) The word “constricted” has the primary meaning of tightened, narrowed, or squeezed. The word is sometimes used as an alternative to the word “constrained”, perhaps because the two words have been conflated. The word “constrained” has the primary meaning of restricted, with the implication of the restriction being severe. The far more common (and, so, less impressive) word “limited” would be a better choice here for the meaning that seems to have been intended. The word “restricted” is a possible alternative, carrying the suggestion of the limitation being imposed. As a general rule, it is stylistically superior in English to choose the simplest and most common words that convey the desired meaning.
The English word "Window" derives directly from Germanic "Windloch", meaning "Wind Hole". The Germanic Langhaus, with live stock at one end, and humans at the other, had a hole in the middle of the roof for ventilation.
Middle English windowe: c. 1200, literally "wind eye," from Old Norse vindauga, from vindr "wind" + auga "eye". Replaced Old English eagþyrl, literally "eye-hole," and eagduru, literally "eye-door."
When I was in Orvieto we had lunch in a little place were archeologists we digging out Etruscan ruins or a tomb. There was a big hole in the floor in 5he middle if the restaurant.
"All of Rome's seven original kings were Etruscan" I don't mean to be contrarian here, and even though Rome's kings are a mix of history, myth, and Legend, they weren't Etruscan. Romulus was supposedly from Alba Longa, who's co-ruler was Titus Tatius, a Sabine King. Numa Pompilius was said to be Sabine Tullus Hostilius was the son or Grandson of one of Romulus's companions Ancus Marcius was said to be the grandson of Numa and a prominent Plebian family. Lucius Tarquinius Priscus is the first of what is sometimes called the "Etruscan dynasty." Priscus was said to be the son of Demaratus of Corinth who travelled to Tarquinnia, but Priscus was not allowed to entire politics in the city because he was a Greek, so he travelled to Rome. Servius Tullius was related to his predecessor by marriage, and a whole heap of different legends, from being the son of a slave, to the son of a merchant, to a god. Tarquinius Superbus(Tarquin the Proud) was the son or grandson of Priscus. He went to the Etruscans after being overthrown, but when that failed, he exiled himself to the Greek city of Cumae. From his family would be the first 2 Consuls/Praetors. We only really have the literary evidence for these people existing and ruling, like Livy or Plutarch, and they don't speak of the kings being Etruscans(besides the father of Priscus settling in Tarquinnia).
Yes but Sabines are actualy Sarbines,or Serbs.Common deliberate mistakes is to swolow the letter so the western schools can change the history as they want.They will newer admit that the Serbs were the apache of the europe.Oldest nation worldwide which gave the letter,language,and culture to all europian nations.Try Vinča,6000 years bc.They used to have same letter as we today.You can beat the stone.
Exactly. Only the last three kings of Rome (also Servius Tullius with his Latin name) could be named "Etruscan". We could add Porsenna who perhaps ruled Rome over some years. You can find many more news on this in my historical novel "Gli ultimi Re di Roma" the last Kings of Rome; a first english edition should be done the next year.
I use the word defenestrate as an example when I talk to people about how precise the English language actually is and the fact that words we don't have but recognize a use for we add to our lexicon and astounding rate in the modern era.
Thank you for another very enjoyable video! I've wondered about a possible connection between the Etruscans and the people of Crete. Maybe that's a long shot, but it seems possible and might be why no one can figure out what the language of Crete was circa Linear A. Just a thought.
Another known relative to Etruscan was Rhaetic, spoken in the Alps. "Window" is imported from old Norse "vindauga" (wind eye). While the Swedes say "fönster" (from fenestra), the Norwergians and Danish still say "vindu".
One thing is for sure: They were under strong influence from early Hellenic culture. Their topless females resemble those of the Minoan culture. They may have started out as a very early colony of the seafaring Minoans.
I like to imagine cultural diffusion happened a lot earlier than we have proper documentation to support. Archaeology helps in this search but its impossible to know the full extent of cross cultural interaction prior to the Late Bronze Age when it reached its first golden age.
They were proto Turkic and spoke Uraltaic Turkic, and were part of a huge confederacy and were related directly to the troyans /truva, as well as the cornish and Welsh in Britain
Excellent presentation on these always, ever mysterious people of no single historical concrete origin opinion. Seems every 10 or 20 years a new theory comes up about their origins.
Interesting history and a lot of debate on the subject. I would like to point out that the Latíni weren’t “related” to the Romans, they were the Ancient Romans.
If one source says they came from Lydia and they spoke a language related to one from Lemnos, which is off the west coast of Lydia, then I think that's the most likely source. If they were only 10% influenced by Celts I think the Latins might have seen them as very Celtic. As for natives, it's likely they mixed with the locals. That explains all three theories to me.
I don’t think the Latins saw them as Celts because recent DNA studies have shown they shared a common genetic lineage. The Romans did however call northern Italy Gallia Cisalpina (Gallia= Gauls Cisalpina= on this side of the Alps). Which was referring to the people and land just north of the Etruscans.
Nice choice of topic, Thersites! As for the origins of Etruscans, don't bother yourself too much with theories. Etruscans were probably just ancient aliens!
I had to laugh at your home ..what went through my mind when you first mentioned the paragraph .. the Estruscansalso must get all the credit for subvented the concept of an "HOA"!
Not really. Their art is far more naturalized Egyptian art is very ridged and formulaic with depictions having cultural and religious significance and hence not allowing for breaking with those standards. Those are very much influenced by Greek art.
Thank you for that educating general overhaul on the Etruscans, a society often passed over (no doubt because of the scarcity of knowledge) in the rush to get to the Romans. However, as someone who has dealt with the problem of ancient historians as 'historians', i.e. how they practiced the craft differently than we do now not to mention how they may have had a different perception of the role of history altogether from our modern understanding, it is by no means certain that a historian would necessarily seek out someone qualified in Etruscan, or that we can know what help the local people would be likely to give such endeavours. One would also think that those who still retained a working knowledge of their language and culture several generations after Rome's conquest, would be those the least likely to want to work with a well educated Roman. Of course this is not my particular field, so I admit I don't have any personal knowledge of the degree of ancient scholarship these particular ancient historians were known for. I am more familiar with ancient Chinese historians, and their concept of history and scholarship. Which needless to say, except for a few sterling exceptions, was very different from our modern ideas on the subject.
Thank you for the well-presented and informative lectures. However, I do notice some inconsistencies when comparing to Wikipedia as well as other podcasts concerning the period. For one, in this episode: Veii is located to the north/northwest of Rome instead of east along the Tiber as you state (wiki). Also, in your lecture on the early history of Rome you depict Brennus as leveling the scales in favor of the Romans while both historical sources on wiki (Livy) and a podcast on the history of Rome state that Brennus threw his sword on the weight-side of the scale, thus increasing the ransom; leading to the famous 'Vae Victis' statement. Just pointing out these minor discrepancies, love your work.
I missed what I could find in Tuscanny such as the sofisticated commerce,rich religion and advanced mechant marine. By the way,window in italian is finestra. I visited a beautiful anphitheatre. Sensational!
@@kweejibodali3078 I rarely use wiki,I use my kwoledge and more thsn 30 years of studying and reading. Several etrurian words were put in usage by latin speakers but I've never seen or read anything about Ilyria. They,etrurians , had a sophisticated society. The romans hated their guts and slaughtered most of them and poured salt on most of their agriculture soil. In italian the word for window is ,"finestre",etrurian.
The ancient Chechen Alan people type (clan) Chianti is one of the ancient Etruscan empire tribes, which after the fall of Troy went to the Caucasus, and others to Italy, founded the sacred fortress of Chianti and directly took part in the construction of the ancient Vatican City. Cities and tombs of Chianti Etruscans Such structures can be found near Cortona, Chianti and Vei. In the 6th century BC. The Cianti Etruscan dynasty ruled the Vatican City. After the invasion of the Byzantine Empire and the Arab Caliphate on the territory of the ancient Chechen Alan people, the Chianti Etruscan (Tsanar) empire merged with various Phoenician tribes. In the 13th century. Many on the territory of the ancient Chechen Alan people of the Chianti Etruscan (Tsanar) empire, due to the Chinese - Mongol invasion, leave Rus', Siberia, Asia Minor, the Caucasus, the Crimean Peninsula and other lands and migrate to Europe and Italy to the province of Chianti to their relatives, who subsequently glorify this province with wonderful wines (the secret of Chianti wines), the Chinese - Mongols, due to the strong fierce resistance the Chianti people put up in the Caucasus, destroy it to the ground on the river. Don Chianti, in Chionti Tusheti and fortress, Tazbichi (Chianti-Mohk). ruclips.net/video/0vm-zU8qziw/видео.html
The Etruscan word for window has a very similar sound to the way I have heard my Swedish mother pronounce window in her 1st language of Swedish. The spelling is extremely different than how it sounds. I am aware that there are some very extremely different dialects in this small country due to spending some time there. It is hard in some situations for one dialect to understand another. I have heard this similar pronunciation in Stockholm. Spelling the word as I have heard it pronounced sounds like Fensterett or Fenstrett or a slight F+V sound in the beginning of the pronunciation. We also have a very celebrated holiday on 12/13 called Santa Lucia which looks very much like some Italian celebrations I have been interested in looking into lately. Very interesting!
Swedish word for window is 'fönster' the window - fönstret the windows - fönstren The ö sound = ur or uh (as in the English word fur) French has 'fenêtre' which is a bit closer and as we know England spoke French for many years having French speaking nobility.
I will explain who they are exactly: The discovery of Tartessos has been one of the most important recent discoveries in Mediterranean archaeology, showing that the Tartessians were in many ways the equivalent of the Etruscans in Italy. So far they have only been known from a couple of obscure reference in Herodotos, but now archaeology is uncovering this remarkable civilisation, comparing Tartessos with the Etruscans. Both cultures are considered to be unknown mysteries, both languages are undicifered yet based on the Phoenician alphabet, AND both belonged to the same world's trade route of their Phoenician (Canaanites) partners: Tyre --> Tarsus --> Cartage --> Etruria --> Tartessos Tarshish is not just a name of one place, it is a nation, a greek sub-race of people, and all that proves that the people of Tarsus-anatolia, Etruscans of Italy & Corsica, and the Tartessians of south Spain, Gibraltar are in fact one people who gave their name to all 3 places: TARSHISH The geographer Strabo states that Tarsus was founded by people from Argos who were exploring this coast- another proof of Greek origins. Recent DNA research appears to show that at least part of the Etruscan population was related to people in Asia Minor, similar DNA tests on goats and cattle suggest Herodotus was right about Anatolian origins Old languages have called Etruscans by different names. The Romans calledthem Tursci or Etrusci. In Attic Greek they were called Tyrrhenians. The related name Teresh was used by the Egyptians, who also knew them as "Sea People" DNA analysis of Etruscan remains has revealed their links to northern Anatolia, whereTroy was located. The latest genetic finds in a few isolated towns in Tuscany have showncloser genetic ties to ancient Anatolia among the living population, unlike what is common in the rest of Italy. That points to their earlier home, before their coming to Italy. And since the Dardanoi derived their name from Dardanus (Dodanim), the founder of Dardania, an ancient city in the Troad, and Rule of the Troad was divided between Dardania and Troy + Homer makes a clear distinction between the Trojans and the Dardanoi- means that: Troy = Etruscan colony Dardania = Dorian colony -->2 sub-races of Greeks (Yavan) The root for Tarshish in the Semitic hebrew language of the bible is RSS, which quite resembles the name the Etruscans used for themselves: Rasana
tarsus and myrtle where the Etruscans lived. Today, the kurgans remaining from the Etruscans and many artistic masterpieces are exhibited in the city museum of Mersin. Tarsus is a very old, very important city. The name of tarsus is frequently mentioned in the Jewish narratives of the Early Christianity and Babylonian Exile. It is even said that the ark of the covenant is in Tarsus. but above all you should not ignore the fact that the Etruscans were actually one of the ancient Turkish peoples. Because they called themselves "children of asana" or turchi. The Italians, on the other hand, named Anatolia as turchia, the land of the Turks. The inscriptions in the Etruscan alphabet and the Orkhon monuments in Mongolia dated to the 4th century AD have the same alphabet and writing style. Contrary to the so-called European historians, it is very easy to read the Etruscan script and even to speak with the same voices for someone who can understand the old Turkish. written from right to left. The midas monument in the city of Eskisehir, Turkey, and the "man rocks" steles in the city of Mersin are also artifacts from the Etruscans. you should examine the "pazirik kurgan" and other ancient Turkish ruins with the same architectural and aesthetic understanding of the Turks living in Central Asia living in the same time period.
@@nisantasicoocugu216 No, that's is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. The Turkic Ottomans who were multiracial Turkic people, unlike the original Turkic peoples like Turkmens etc. came to anatolia AFTER the Romans and weren't there in ancient times, so please don't re-write history because that is very bad and annoying. Etruscans are 1 of the 4 races of Greeks called Tarshish and Tarsus was their 1st colony. Latins/Romans/Italics were another one, called Dodanim, Hellas were called Elisha, and Macedonians - Kittim
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy turkmen is not diffetent nation, or else yörük / Azeri / kazak / Kuman / peçenek / we all turk. Same language not different each other. But fins And magyars yes different than us present day. Just 1500 years ago we all speak same language btw. For example my name is Emre Arpad, Magyars called imre Also my surname came from Great King of Arpad… turkish version Emre Arpad / Magyars İmre Arpad.
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy btw Tarsus never been greek city, they were semi control of romans but judea also roman state but they were israelites not latin or greek. Tarsus name was came king of tarzu (kizzuvatna era) far before romans..
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy btw İ was born and living in Tarsus now 🤣 im phd history student my profession proto turkic and near east history. I can read ancient greek and I can understand mostly / also I can speak Assyrians and Hebrew. Turkish Jewish here btw
Etruscan borrowed the Greek alfabet ... euh no it really it is the Phoenican alphabet that was borrowed. Etruscan where literate before the Greek colonization. Also the is a massive amount of semtic loanwords from semitic langauages ... familiar names (like the etruscan written word for daughter), numberals, etc. Insights have changed here in the couple of decades.
It doesn't really matter who they borrowed it from. At the time they borrowed it, there were both Greeks and Phoenicians trading up and down the Tyrhennian coast. Historians say they borrowed it from the Greeks because it's more closely aligned with the Greek versions of that alphabet, and Etruscan art and culture was so Hellenized. By the time there is the earliest evidence of a culture known as Etruscan, Greek colonization and maritime trade had been going on, and what is known as the "Phoenician Alphabet" was spreading around the Mediterranean. The Phoenicians didn't invent the alphabet. It originated in Egypt, and was used next in the Levant(by the Arameans, Ammonites, Moabites, Israelites, Canaanites, etc, and spread out from there supplanting early writing systems.
The etruscan alphabet (there are many variants) derives directly from the most ancient used in Italy, the greek-euboic of the isle of Pithecousa (to day Ischia).
@@silviosposito375 those are outdated insights. it is commonly accepted the Etruscans where literate before the first Greek colonists brought their own borrowed Phoenician alphabet with them.
Perhaps most importantly person/persona/personality: Etymonline lists it as related to Latin `personare`, meaning "to sound through", tentatively originating from Etruscan p(h)ersu ("mask").
1. Do you have/do you plan to have an "official" twitter for this channel? 2. Regarding your roman emperors tier list - you should have put Poopy Anus in S tier. EASILY. I mean, the guy probably spent the entire high school shoved into a locker. And yet, he not only managed to grow up to be a functioning adult (which by itself was an amazing achievement with his name), but also became a roman emperor on top of that! So considering the shitty hand his parents dealt him, he easily is the most impressive guy in human history. 3. I'm from Silesia. We're one of the three historical regions of the crown of saint Vaclav. We know aaaaall about defenestration c:
twitter.com/ThersitesAthens I'm not sure if it is "official" or not, but it is the only Twitter account that I use on the rare occasions that I sally forth into that cesspool. Pupienus went to a fancy prep school academy and had his paedagogus whip anyone who made disparaging remarks about his surname.
Еще в 1913 году на сакральной территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи г. Калаки (Тифлисе) в канцелярии наместника Его императорского величества на Кавказе вышла книга, Константина Михайловича Туманова с названием "О доисторическом языке Закавказья".Автор, приводя в доказательство огромное количество топонимов (названий гор, рек, хребтов, ущелий, поселений и других географических объектов), а также данных из исторических трудов древних авторов, летописей, преданий, археологических и прочих материалов, приходит к однозначному выводу о том, что предки чеченцев были самым первым населением на территории всего Закавказья и южнее в плоть до Африканского континента. Эрибун (Ереван) название это территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи , переводится исключительно на чеченский язык - в далине изба, дом, хижина.Известный исследователь В.П. Алексеев в своих изысканиях подтверждает, что этруски - урарты представляют собой не только физических но и языковых предков чеченцев. В последнем издании материалов по истории СССР также отмечается о том, что ( урартский - этруский) принадлежит к особой языковой семье, наиболее близким к ним является современный чеченский язык. М.Л. Хачикян, Мар.Н.Я. в своих научных трудах отмечают о том, что Древней Передней Азии, начиная с середины 3-го тысячелетия до.н.эры, до-конца 1-го тысячелетия д.н.эры территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи был тем народом, культурное влияние которых на остальные народы данного региона в плоть до Египта и Северного Средиземноморья, было доминирующим. Культурное влияние предков чеченцев (урарто - этрусков) на европейские народы не ограничивалось данными языка.Такие мировые произведения литературы и фольклeра, как " Миф о сотворении мира", "Миф о Пигмалионе", "Миф о Прометее" и другие по мнению большинства мировых ученных возникли в пeрвые у древнего народа Месопoтамии, ныне представленных на Кавказе.Чеченцы (Нахчи).Именно на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи в Месопотамии в частности Урарту зародилась школа и университет, где обучали различным наукам, письму, счету, геометрии, алгебре.Были найдены клинописные таблички, свидетельствующие о знаниях чеченцев в этих научных областях.В одной из них доказывается теорема о подобии прямоугольных треугольников, которую приписывают финикийскому (греческому) ученному Евклиду. Историкам стало известно, что на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков Чианти (цанар) империи городе Шадумуме (Урарту) её приняли за 17 веков до Евклида. Обнаружены также математические таблицы, с помощью которых они умножали, извлекали квадратные корни, возводили различные степени, выполняли деление и вычисляли проценты.
Considering men were all depicted with dark hair, while blonde only appears on women who were renowed for their use of sophisticated cosmetics, it'd be in line with their supposed origin in Asia Minor. Dying hair blonde used to be a custom among Romans, so they could have inherited that from Etruscans as with many other elements of their culture.
Only the last three Kings of Rome were "Etruscan". Read my historical novel "Gli ultimi Re di Roma" i.e. the last Kings of Rome; the first english edition is in progress. There is a new research about their language that seems to be related to the Kartvelian or south-caucasian languages (Georgian, Svan, Mingrelian, Laz). Also the Urartian language perhaps belonged to the same family, and so for that of the Hatti people, who inhabited central and eastern Anatolia before the Hittites' arrival in the region. Much work for scholars!
Very well explained. I personally live close to one of the once Etruscan colonies. Please learn to pronounce the cities correctly...this will allow those watching, learn the importance of saying the names of the cities as they should be said. Other than that, the video is excellent...thank you.
I wondered if they were Rus - (Russia area ... But good call on the language phonetics. Their Goddess "Uni" is the Roman "Juno". Tonal affliction change on the vowels - "accent"
It is too bad the works of Emperor Claudius 1st, were lost, he made a full history of the people, History ETC, With that all the guesswork and refinding what he put down would not have been needed!
Agreed. Cato the Elder apparently dedicated four of the books of the Origines to the Etruscans as well. I can't help but think that if Claudius' work on the Etruscans and Carthaginians had survived, that his reputation as an emperor would be higher.
It seems to be a combination of a lack of historical engagement and bad luck in terms of what ended up surviving. The Romans were also lax with historical memory until the 3rd Century BCE.
The ATR mic works a lot better with PowerPoint than with Discord/OBS for whatever reason. I just got a new mic today, so I guess we'll see if it is an improvement.
my family dna comes directly from around the town of nola italy. no where else. we often thing of ourselves of etruscan. also that the conglomerate romans, who really had no culture of their own, took, stole and borrowed a lot of things from us including art, engineering, etc,,, our town of nola is on a plateau and it is walled. to this day our family name is on a few buildings there. so much more. the romans did a good job of wiping out our history to claim it for themselves.
It was the Etruscans built Rome, and whatever culture the Romans acquired came from the Greeks. How is it then that the Romans are so self-obsessed like they invented the world.
They were really called tursakans and spoke Uraltaic Turkic, around 900 years later when the swedes/vikings became part of the GÖKTÜRK KHAGANATE and adopted the Göktürk alphabet with its runes and many Turkic words like Odin>odun(light/fire), and names like Thor, Hakan etc..
@@XIXCentury it is what it is, the etruscans spoke Uraltaic - Turkic, DNA studies show a whopping 98% match between the Turkish and the Etruscans and this study was undertaken by several Italian universities, the Turkish language has two main branches ; uralic( in reference to Ural mou rain range in Siberia), which is spoken by many of the nordics and European countries including Sweden and yes I know the Swedish language technicaly is German but it has so many (several thousand) Turkish words and uses the turcic runetic alphabet and the Turkic tengric belief system, hence Turkic names like ODIN, Thor, Hakan etc., When after the fall of troy, a party of trojans went back to the nordics and were received by the Swedish King Gyfyr, whom referred to them as Turcus and called them sons of Odin and said that his Turcus brethren had been living in center of the earth (in those days modern day Türkey was referred to as such in the nordics) and said that they had been tricked by a wooden horse and gave up his throne at once. Re:Swen Sturlesson Swen Lagerbring ( Lagerbring is an actual and a prominent historian and his works are far more comprehensive).
Window is not from Etruscan origin, I think you mean the latin fenestra that is of Etruscan origin - window is from old norse, funnily enough, modern day nordic languages use a term derived from the latin fenestra (fönster/fønster).
Confusing that you keep referring to the 6th century etc, not the 6th century BC. Obviously the Etruscan civilisation was long gone by the 6th century AD but this would confuse many listeners.
I wonder if anyone alive now has ancient Etruscan ancestry, maybe people in modern day Tuscany, Italy? I know that the Romans took over but it'd be interesting to know.
Most Etruscan men where r1b haplogroup, most of them where romanized and formed part of Rome and many elite families where paternally Etruscan in Roman civilization , before Rome became a republic they had 7 Etruscan kings , Etruscan descendants all over de Mediterranean all the way to northern France and Spain , and maybe even abroad since all these nations made colonies in the americas , they have specific snps in there haplogroups that show that they where all over Iberia , not to confused with northern r1b men with a diff variety of snps to there Y chromosome
How did the Etruscans fight? Was it just another version of the Greek phalanx? Seems like everyone in that era copied the Greeks, right? Or was it just a collection of individual glory-seekers trying to see who could achieve the highest kill ratio lol?
@@albancutaj8135 Outside of Albanian propaganda there is no material evidence of the Etruscan and "Illyrian" language. Etruscans call themselves Raseni and "Illyrians" were Japodi, Liburni, etc. Albanian language was standardized in 19 century.
@@GGTanguera i don’t have time to explain history to people like you. Just go on RUclips and see how similar is Etruscan with Albanian language. Then come back to me.
Chariots make it a slam-dunk, they're Indo-European, regardless if the group they merged with kept the dominant language. Some of their stuff is SO Greek in style. Also wtf are they doing worshipping Apollo if we don't know where they came from?
We know where they came from because they had horses and chariots. Anyone who knows the ancient world knows where those came from. Maybe they joined a local group and for some reason took their language. Didn't they also pass some clearly Indo-European gods on to the Romans?
Best defenestration scene in any movie is that one in Braveheart where the king comes back home and he's like, fuck this, and throws his fruity son's boyfriend/advisor out of the window, absolute savage. IRL I think the Czechs had a thing for it at one point too, can't remember and not gonna wiki.
The Etruscans or the TÜRSAKA as they were called spoke Turkic-Uraltaic, the name TÜRSAKA means Turkic sheep herders, Asenna which they referred to sometimes is named after their homeland on the shores of the caspian sea, it is also the name of the promised land in the hereafter, and the name of the she-wolf that would lead them there.
Are the Etruscan's related to the Minoan's? Like maybe a mix of native people's and Minoan's. Because they would have existed at the same time as the Minoan's. It would explain things a bit. Because I know the Minoan's would set up colonies.
The Minoans disappeared from history by 1100 BCE. The Etruscans didn’t appear until about 700 BCE, or 900 BCE depending on how you define the Etruscan civilisation.
@@calebhowells1116 Well the Etruscans were first the Villanovan culture. They where believe to have been founded in the 1100's BC. So my theory is that when the Minoan civilization was ending many of them branched out to find new places to call home. Ultimately mixing with different cultures. The Etruscans might be one of those peoples.
Could you make more videos about their religions origins? Not necessarily talking about the myth, but about the stories behind their social creation. For example, the narrative that talks about how Zeus got his throne from his father, who betrayed his own father, is a Hittite export. Greeks took it and applied it to their father sky god. Or how Aphrodite is not really Greek, but a third (maybe forth) hand adaptation of the Sumerian Inana.
@@Evagelopoulos862 I think it's academic common knowledge that Aphrodite is NOT an original Greek goddess and that many of her myths and characterization come from the middle east (you find her nowhere in Mycenean texts although later on she and Zeus were the only PanHellenic gods, also Adonis is just a title for Dumuzi, like "lord", and let's not forget that Aphrodite is also named Areia and her caprice causes the Trojan War just like Inana isn't really a war goddess, more of a spoiled brat). And Zeus IS a sky father, so much so that his roman counter part's name "Jupiter" literally means sky father = Dyeus ph2tēr (Dieus Pater / Zeus Father). Why do you think he fathers Aphrodite in some versions taking the place of Ouranos?
On further explanation, even though Inana and Ishtar were syncretized, if you read the Sumerian and Akkadian texts separately, you'll see that Ishtar was the warrior one and Inana not so much (even though both were chaotic goddesses)! I really think that it was the patronage she had over Sargon that caused a turn on her portrayal strongly associating her with war.
@@Evagelopoulos862 One more thing, one recent theory that is not really well studied as far as I've seen, is not questioning whether Aphrodite is based on Ishtar or not (this is settled), the recent debate revolves around arguing whether Eos, the dawn goddess, actually is the ORIGINAL Greek Aphrodite, losing importance when Aphrodite comes to Greece imported from the Phoenicians. And by original I mean connected to a proto-indoeuropean tradition. I've seen people arguing that Eos, Aurora, Freyja, Ishtar and others were cut from the same cloth, but a MUCH older one.
@@Evagelopoulos862 but you disagree based on what proofs? Do you follow any specific scholar? You can't really deny scientific knowledge with only a hunch or opinions, right? That's how you become anti-vax, a flat-earther or a Christian apologist! What Latin distortion? Sappho herself wrote about Adonis!
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I'd say anyone with passing familiarity of Czech history is very accustomed with the word defenestrate.
That unfortunate incident in Czech history was exactly what came to my mind when that word was mentioned.
@@annascott3542 you mean all 3 of the incidents? :D
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Haha. Indeed! The Czechs are Etruscans!
Lol
I asked you about releasing an Etruscan video a couple of months ago. Ive been patiently waiting for this one since Etruscan history is so interesting. Great vid!
Hey man.
Youre genuinely one of my favorite history podcasts, and as a blind hermit I absorb them like Netflix fans do their new shows, and love how you've expanded lately.
I was long tired of Rome, but your covering of the Republic, and Consuls ignited interest in it yet again. The same applies to the American Civil War.
Are you ever going to cover Bronze Age Collapse topics? I'm particularly interested in the Luwians
Hi, I'm glad to hear that you enjoy my videos and the range of topics that I cover.
I have been planning to cover both Gaius Terentius Varro and Narses for a while now, but I have been a bit too busy to pull it off in recent weeks. Right now, I am also working on videos for class focusing on Rome and I will probably share those at some point in the near future.
As for the Bronze Age, that is something that I plan to cover for sure. I'm not sure when I will be able to cover the Luwians, Hittites, or any other Bronze Age people, but my guess would be that I will get around to topics like that by the end of summer or early fall.
@@ThersitestheHistorian Luwians would be interesting as they're a bit obscure.
@@ThersitestheHistorian THKU for delving into this subject. I believe if we look deeper into early Florence & Sienna we could get a better understanding of the context for their politics and society.
in reference to the use of the word ''sacrifice'', this is a anti-matriarchal & racially loaded word.
it draws the meaning into a 'barbaric' practice that is morally judged today. in contemporary times this word's meaning conveys a thirst for killing by pre-christian humans & 'senseless' murder. but truly this supposed lust for blood is romanticized to make humanity feel that we are progressively 'better' than our ancient or modern cousins. the fact remains that animals killed for religious reason were never wasted nor were they killed for the love of killing. all animals 'sacrificed' were given to someone to eat. if animal liver was used for religious reasons, that was just 1 small part 'given' to extract a spiritual value.
I know this bcuz there are many cultures living today in Africa & Asia & Australia that are classified as Bronze Age culture, with religious practices dating back over 5000 years. modern humans may have changed biologically but emotionally we are NO different. we love & we lose loved ones & we grieve. Humanity could not have survived without the INTENTIONAL respect for Life that has followed us from the trees to the gardens to the fields of Civilization.
not to say that Humanity is 'without sin' but in another context, how many lives have been 'sacrificed' to the Industrial Age of 'cheap labor' & the economic fuedal systems?
@@yarazooom Where is the racial "racist" context for the word "sacrifice"? You can't just claim a word as racist and then never elaborate! Lol. I don't want to assume this is some SJW BS....but I really don't see how race can be tied to something so universal as animal/human sacrifice for religious reasons
@@yarazooom Also "anti-matriarchial"? WTF? How?!?!?! How could it be construed as such? Seriously I know this comment was over a year old.....but wtf are you going on about here?!?!?!
History dude.Seriously glad i found ur site.Im an imsomniac who happens to love history. Great work. Thank you kindly.
Love from Tarquinia❤❤❤
This video is pure art❤
You can always use the word "defenestration" when talking about the "defenestration of Prague", look it up right now!
Weird that we don't see this today though it would have evolved with the elevation of towers
@@itsolivier I remember reading the term in the history books, but then I actually lived in Prague this year and saw the old Town Hall for myself. The tower and floors are really small so it makes sense now.
Fenestron is the name for a helicopter tail rotor.
@@wojciechgrodnicki6302 Because the rotor is in a window in the tail…
@@timothyrday1390 It was explained they survived due to a deep manure pile. I remember looking at a video of that wall and thinking that must have been one massive manure pile. Most likely horse, but not something a person willingly contacted. Better than breaking your neck,but....
(11:38) The word “constricted” has the primary meaning of tightened, narrowed, or squeezed. The word is sometimes used as an alternative to the word “constrained”, perhaps because the two words have been conflated. The word “constrained” has the primary meaning of restricted, with the implication of the restriction being severe. The far more common (and, so, less impressive) word “limited” would be a better choice here for the meaning that seems to have been intended. The word “restricted” is a possible alternative, carrying the suggestion of the limitation being imposed. As a general rule, it is stylistically superior in English to choose the simplest and most common words that convey the desired meaning.
The English word "Window" derives directly from Germanic "Windloch", meaning "Wind Hole". The Germanic Langhaus, with live stock at one end, and humans at the other, had a hole in the middle of the roof for ventilation.
Middle English windowe: c. 1200, literally "wind eye," from Old Norse vindauga, from vindr "wind" + auga "eye". Replaced Old English eagþyrl, literally "eye-hole," and eagduru, literally "eye-door."
I thought Thersites was full of BS on that one.
I think he means the latin word for window, which we don't actually use in Germanic languages.
@@Sinsteel Well a window is called a fenster in german nowadays
@@Sinsteel Uno reverse.
excellent. thank you for excellent history and narrated at a good pace ( not at break neck speed )
Great video, your work is very informational, educational, and direct, by the way-you should make a Discord server if you don't have one. Keep it up!
I have a Discord set up, but I can't access it from this device unfortunately. Remind me and I'll send you a link when I'm on my main computer.
I've been to Chiusi - they have some good tombs. They were holding the door of one open with the remains of an urn. Nice people too
When I was in Orvieto we had lunch in a little place were archeologists we digging out Etruscan ruins or a tomb.
There was a big hole in the floor in 5he middle if the restaurant.
Could you do a video on the Elamites? I think there interesting but I don't know much about them
Perhaps.
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"All of Rome's seven original kings were Etruscan"
I don't mean to be contrarian here, and even though Rome's kings are a mix of history, myth, and Legend, they weren't Etruscan.
Romulus was supposedly from Alba Longa, who's co-ruler was Titus Tatius, a Sabine King.
Numa Pompilius was said to be Sabine
Tullus Hostilius was the son or Grandson of one of Romulus's companions
Ancus Marcius was said to be the grandson of Numa and a prominent Plebian family.
Lucius Tarquinius Priscus is the first of what is sometimes called the "Etruscan dynasty." Priscus was said to be the son of Demaratus of Corinth who travelled to Tarquinnia, but Priscus was not allowed to entire politics in the city because he was a Greek, so he travelled to Rome.
Servius Tullius was related to his predecessor by marriage, and a whole heap of different legends, from being the son of a slave, to the son of a merchant, to a god.
Tarquinius Superbus(Tarquin the Proud) was the son or grandson of Priscus. He went to the Etruscans after being overthrown, but when that failed, he exiled himself to the Greek city of Cumae. From his family would be the first 2 Consuls/Praetors.
We only really have the literary evidence for these people existing and ruling, like Livy or Plutarch, and they don't speak of the kings being Etruscans(besides the father of Priscus settling in Tarquinnia).
This is the first time I've seen the first...kings... family backgrounds. How very interesting, thank you.
Yes but Sabines are actualy Sarbines,or Serbs.Common deliberate mistakes is to swolow the letter so the western schools can change the history as they want.They will newer admit that the Serbs were the apache of the europe.Oldest nation worldwide which gave the letter,language,and culture to all europian nations.Try Vinča,6000 years bc.They used to have same letter as we today.You can beat the stone.
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Exactly. Only the last three kings of Rome (also Servius Tullius with his Latin name) could be named "Etruscan". We could add Porsenna who perhaps ruled Rome over some years. You can find many more news on this in my historical novel "Gli ultimi Re di Roma" the last Kings of Rome; a first english edition should be done the next year.
@@predraglazic1478 go discuss your theories with an Albanian
I use the word defenestrate as an example when I talk to people about how precise the English language actually is and the fact that words we don't have but recognize a use for we add to our lexicon and astounding rate in the modern era.
Never heard that word before. Might be my favorite word of all time now lol. What an amazing definition
Thank you for another very enjoyable video! I've wondered about a possible connection between the Etruscans and the people of Crete. Maybe that's a long shot, but it seems possible and might be why no one can figure out what the language of Crete was circa Linear A. Just a thought.
Isnt that similar/same as Vincan alphabet? danube region which predates all these letters.
Excellent. Many thanks...
Another known relative to Etruscan was Rhaetic, spoken in the Alps. "Window" is imported from old Norse "vindauga" (wind eye). While the Swedes say "fönster" (from fenestra), the Norwergians and Danish still say "vindu".
Chiusi is pronounced Kiusi. Italian CH sound is very different.
Yes... even if you write in English technology.. Ch.. you pronounce as K.
@@enricomanno8434 technology
One thing is for sure: They were under strong influence from early Hellenic culture. Their topless females resemble those of the Minoan culture. They may have started out as a very early colony of the seafaring Minoans.
I like to imagine cultural diffusion happened a lot earlier than we have proper documentation to support. Archaeology helps in this search but its impossible to know the full extent of cross cultural interaction prior to the Late Bronze Age when it reached its first golden age.
The Minoans are not Hellenic culture, though
Topless females? Oh hell yea I’m thinking we got Minoan culture on bourbon street with all our tiddy bars
i think that topless or nude females are common across different cultures of those periods
They were proto Turkic and spoke Uraltaic Turkic, and were part of a huge confederacy and were related directly to the troyans /truva, as well as the cornish and Welsh in Britain
Excellent presentation on these always, ever mysterious people of no single historical concrete origin opinion. Seems every 10 or 20 years a new theory comes up about their origins.
26:25 I've just realized that the current name Cerveteri means nothing else than Caere Veteri, that being (the) Old Caere...
Interesting history and a lot of debate on the subject. I would like to point out that the Latíni weren’t “related” to the Romans, they were the Ancient Romans.
What is the reason for the sunken roads?
5:06 cannot find a latin root for window, word is from old norse. Fenestra? Oh i see it get explained later.
this is very well done - thank you!
If one source says they came from Lydia and they spoke a language related to one from Lemnos, which is off the west coast of Lydia, then I think that's the most likely source. If they were only 10% influenced by Celts I think the Latins might have seen them as very Celtic. As for natives, it's likely they mixed with the locals. That explains all three theories to me.
I don’t think the Latins saw them as Celts because recent DNA studies have shown they shared a common genetic lineage. The Romans did however call northern Italy Gallia Cisalpina (Gallia= Gauls Cisalpina= on this side of the Alps). Which was referring to the people and land just north of the Etruscans.
Hello,
Why did Titus Livius call the Etruscans the Luceres tribe ? There were only 3 tribes during the romulean times.
Very nice. Great job
28:44 I'm confused, the slide says Third Samnite war but you said Third Punic war.
Nice choice of topic, Thersites! As for the origins of Etruscans, don't bother yourself too much with theories. Etruscans were probably just ancient aliens!
I had to laugh at your home ..what went through my mind when you first mentioned the paragraph .. the Estruscansalso must get all the credit for subvented the concept of an "HOA"!
I love this channel
Seems as though they had contact with Egypt based on art
Not really. Their art is far more naturalized Egyptian art is very ridged and formulaic with depictions having cultural and religious significance and hence not allowing for breaking with those standards. Those are very much influenced by Greek art.
Thank you for that educating general overhaul on the Etruscans, a society often passed over (no doubt because of the scarcity of knowledge) in the rush to get to the Romans. However, as someone who has dealt with the problem of ancient historians as 'historians', i.e. how they practiced the craft differently than we do now not to mention how they may have had a different perception of the role of history altogether from our modern understanding, it is by no means certain that a historian would necessarily seek out someone qualified in Etruscan, or that we can know what help the local people would be likely to give such endeavours. One would also think that those who still retained a working knowledge of their language and culture several generations after Rome's conquest, would be those the least likely to want to work with a well educated Roman.
Of course this is not my particular field, so I admit I don't have any personal knowledge of the degree of ancient scholarship these particular ancient historians were known for. I am more familiar with ancient Chinese historians, and their concept of history and scholarship. Which needless to say, except for a few sterling exceptions, was very different from our modern ideas on the subject.
Veii roof decorations look very, very Greek. Any info on that?
Thank you for the well-presented and informative lectures. However, I do notice some inconsistencies when comparing to Wikipedia as well as other podcasts concerning the period. For one, in this episode: Veii is located to the north/northwest of Rome instead of east along the Tiber as you state (wiki). Also, in your lecture on the early history of Rome you depict Brennus as leveling the scales in favor of the Romans while both historical sources on wiki (Livy) and a podcast on the history of Rome state that Brennus threw his sword on the weight-side of the scale, thus increasing the ransom; leading to the famous 'Vae Victis' statement. Just pointing out these minor discrepancies, love your work.
I missed what I could find in Tuscanny such as the sofisticated commerce,rich religion and advanced mechant marine. By the way,window in italian is finestra. I visited a beautiful anphitheatre. Sensational!
wiki has been known to be wrong, sometimes using incorrect sources, or leaving out some information
@@kweejibodali3078 I rarely use wiki,I use my kwoledge and more thsn 30 years of studying and reading. Several etrurian words were put in usage by latin speakers but I've never seen or read anything about Ilyria. They,etrurians , had a sophisticated society. The romans hated their guts and slaughtered most of them and poured salt on most of their agriculture soil. In italian the word for window is ,"finestre",etrurian.
Niceeee i come from their land, I literally go to tarquinia every summer
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The ancient Chechen Alan people type (clan) Chianti is one of the ancient Etruscan empire tribes, which after the fall of Troy went to the Caucasus, and others to Italy, founded the sacred fortress of Chianti and directly took part in the construction of the ancient Vatican City. Cities and tombs of Chianti Etruscans Such structures can be found near Cortona, Chianti and Vei. In the 6th century BC. The Cianti Etruscan dynasty ruled the Vatican City. After the invasion of the Byzantine Empire and the Arab Caliphate on the territory of the ancient Chechen Alan people, the Chianti Etruscan (Tsanar) empire merged with various Phoenician tribes. In the 13th century. Many on the territory of the ancient Chechen Alan people of the Chianti Etruscan (Tsanar) empire, due to the Chinese - Mongol invasion, leave Rus', Siberia, Asia Minor, the Caucasus, the Crimean Peninsula and other lands and migrate to Europe and Italy to the province of Chianti to their relatives, who subsequently glorify this province with wonderful wines (the secret of Chianti wines), the Chinese - Mongols, due to the strong fierce resistance the Chianti people put up in the Caucasus, destroy it to the ground on the river. Don Chianti, in Chionti Tusheti and fortress, Tazbichi (Chianti-Mohk). ruclips.net/video/0vm-zU8qziw/видео.html
What of Max Igan stating the language was Magyar?
Thanks man,your great .
7:29 I'll keep that in mind if I visit Prague.
The Etruscan word for window has a very similar sound to the way I have heard my Swedish mother pronounce window in her 1st language of Swedish. The spelling is extremely different than how it sounds. I am aware that there are some very extremely different dialects in this small country due to spending some time there. It is hard in some situations for one dialect to understand another. I have heard this similar pronunciation in Stockholm. Spelling the word as I have heard it pronounced sounds like Fensterett or Fenstrett or a slight F+V sound in the beginning of the pronunciation. We also have a very celebrated holiday on 12/13 called Santa Lucia which looks very much like some Italian celebrations I have been interested in looking into lately. Very interesting!
Etruscan word for god "Aesir" will probably sound similar to a norse person as well. Think it's just a coincidence though
Swedish word for
window is 'fönster'
the window - fönstret
the windows - fönstren
The ö sound = ur or uh (as in the English word fur)
French has 'fenêtre' which is a bit closer and as we know England spoke French for many years having French speaking nobility.
Fuckin' love this videos so much. Roman history is so awesome ! Viva Roma!!!
what does BCE mean?
I will explain who they are exactly:
The discovery of Tartessos has been one of the most important recent discoveries in Mediterranean archaeology, showing that the Tartessians were in many ways the equivalent of the Etruscans in Italy. So far they have only been known from a couple of obscure reference in Herodotos, but now archaeology is uncovering this remarkable civilisation, comparing Tartessos with the Etruscans.
Both cultures are considered to be unknown mysteries, both languages are undicifered yet based on the Phoenician alphabet, AND both belonged to the same world's trade route of their Phoenician (Canaanites) partners:
Tyre --> Tarsus --> Cartage --> Etruria --> Tartessos
Tarshish is not just a name of one place, it is a nation, a greek sub-race of people, and all that proves that the people of Tarsus-anatolia, Etruscans of Italy & Corsica, and the Tartessians of south Spain, Gibraltar are in fact one people who gave their name to all 3 places: TARSHISH
The geographer Strabo states that Tarsus was founded by people from Argos who were exploring this coast- another proof of Greek origins.
Recent DNA research appears to show that at least part of the Etruscan population was related to people in Asia Minor, similar DNA tests on goats and cattle suggest Herodotus was right about Anatolian origins
Old languages have called Etruscans by different names. The Romans calledthem
Tursci or Etrusci.
In Attic Greek they were called
Tyrrhenians.
The related name
Teresh
was used by the Egyptians, who also knew them as "Sea People"
DNA analysis of Etruscan remains has revealed their links to northern Anatolia, whereTroy was located. The latest genetic finds in a few isolated towns in Tuscany have showncloser genetic ties to ancient Anatolia among the living population, unlike what is common in the rest of Italy. That points to their earlier home, before their coming to Italy. And since the Dardanoi derived their name from Dardanus (Dodanim), the founder of Dardania, an ancient city in the Troad, and Rule of the Troad was divided between Dardania and Troy + Homer makes a clear distinction between the Trojans and the Dardanoi- means that: Troy = Etruscan colony
Dardania = Dorian colony -->2 sub-races of Greeks (Yavan)
The root for Tarshish in the Semitic hebrew language of the bible is RSS, which quite resembles the name the Etruscans used for themselves: Rasana
tarsus and myrtle where the Etruscans lived. Today, the kurgans remaining from the Etruscans and many artistic masterpieces are exhibited in the city museum of Mersin. Tarsus is a very old, very important city. The name of tarsus is frequently mentioned in the Jewish narratives of the Early Christianity and Babylonian Exile. It is even said that the ark of the covenant is in Tarsus. but above all you should not ignore the fact that the Etruscans were actually one of the ancient Turkish peoples. Because they called themselves "children of asana" or turchi. The Italians, on the other hand, named Anatolia as turchia, the land of the Turks. The inscriptions in the Etruscan alphabet and the Orkhon monuments in Mongolia dated to the 4th century AD have the same alphabet and writing style. Contrary to the so-called European historians, it is very easy to read the Etruscan script and even to speak with the same voices for someone who can understand the old Turkish. written from right to left. The midas monument in the city of Eskisehir, Turkey, and the "man rocks" steles in the city of Mersin are also artifacts from the Etruscans. you should examine the "pazirik kurgan" and other ancient Turkish ruins with the same architectural and aesthetic understanding of the Turks living in Central Asia living in the same time period.
@@nisantasicoocugu216 No, that's is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. The Turkic Ottomans who were multiracial Turkic people, unlike the original Turkic peoples like Turkmens etc. came to anatolia AFTER the Romans and weren't there in ancient times, so please don't re-write history because that is very bad and annoying. Etruscans are 1 of the 4 races of Greeks called Tarshish and Tarsus was their 1st colony. Latins/Romans/Italics were another one, called Dodanim, Hellas were called Elisha, and Macedonians - Kittim
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy turkmen is not diffetent nation, or else yörük / Azeri / kazak / Kuman / peçenek / we all turk. Same language not different each other.
But fins And magyars yes different than us present day. Just 1500 years ago we all speak same language btw. For example my name is Emre Arpad, Magyars called imre Also my surname came from Great King of Arpad… turkish version Emre Arpad / Magyars İmre Arpad.
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy btw Tarsus never been greek city, they were semi control of romans but judea also roman state but they were israelites not latin or greek. Tarsus name was came king of tarzu (kizzuvatna era) far before romans..
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy btw İ was born and living in Tarsus now 🤣 im phd history student my profession proto turkic and near east history.
I can read ancient greek and I can understand mostly / also I can speak Assyrians and Hebrew. Turkish Jewish here btw
Etruscan borrowed the Greek alfabet ... euh no it really it is the Phoenican alphabet that was borrowed. Etruscan where literate before the Greek colonization. Also the is a massive amount of semtic loanwords from semitic langauages ... familiar names (like the etruscan written word for daughter), numberals, etc. Insights have changed here in the couple of decades.
It doesn't really matter who they borrowed it from. At the time they borrowed it, there were both Greeks and Phoenicians trading up and down the Tyrhennian coast. Historians say they borrowed it from the Greeks because it's more closely aligned with the Greek versions of that alphabet, and Etruscan art and culture was so Hellenized.
By the time there is the earliest evidence of a culture known as Etruscan, Greek colonization and maritime trade had been going on, and what is known as the "Phoenician Alphabet" was spreading around the Mediterranean. The Phoenicians didn't invent the alphabet. It originated in Egypt, and was used next in the Levant(by the Arameans, Ammonites, Moabites, Israelites, Canaanites, etc, and spread out from there supplanting early writing systems.
The etruscan alphabet (there are many variants) derives directly from the most ancient used in Italy, the greek-euboic of the isle of Pithecousa (to day Ischia).
@@silviosposito375 those are outdated insights. it is commonly accepted the Etruscans where literate before the first Greek colonists brought their own borrowed Phoenician alphabet with them.
Tyrolian mountains northern Italy.. similar to their Greek name ?
Perhaps most importantly person/persona/personality: Etymonline lists it as related to Latin `personare`, meaning "to sound through", tentatively originating from Etruscan p(h)ersu ("mask").
Excellent lecture--thanks!
The Etruscans grew wheat on the flat plains of northern agricultural fields.
1. Do you have/do you plan to have an "official" twitter for this channel?
2. Regarding your roman emperors tier list - you should have put Poopy Anus in S tier. EASILY. I mean, the guy probably spent the entire high school shoved into a locker. And yet, he not only managed to grow up to be a functioning adult (which by itself was an amazing achievement with his name), but also became a roman emperor on top of that! So considering the shitty hand his parents dealt him, he easily is the most impressive guy in human history.
3. I'm from Silesia. We're one of the three historical regions of the crown of saint Vaclav. We know aaaaall about defenestration c:
twitter.com/ThersitesAthens
I'm not sure if it is "official" or not, but it is the only Twitter account that I use on the rare occasions that I sally forth into that cesspool.
Pupienus went to a fancy prep school academy and had his paedagogus whip anyone who made disparaging remarks about his surname.
Еще в 1913 году на сакральной территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи г. Калаки (Тифлисе) в канцелярии наместника Его императорского величества на Кавказе вышла книга, Константина Михайловича Туманова с названием "О доисторическом языке Закавказья".Автор, приводя в доказательство огромное количество топонимов (названий гор, рек, хребтов, ущелий, поселений и других географических объектов), а также данных из исторических трудов древних авторов, летописей, преданий, археологических и прочих материалов, приходит к однозначному выводу о том, что предки чеченцев были самым первым населением на территории всего Закавказья и южнее в плоть до Африканского континента. Эрибун (Ереван) название это территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи , переводится исключительно на чеченский язык - в далине изба, дом, хижина.Известный исследователь В.П. Алексеев в своих изысканиях подтверждает, что этруски - урарты представляют собой не только физических но и языковых предков чеченцев. В последнем издании материалов по истории СССР также отмечается о том, что ( урартский - этруский) принадлежит к особой языковой семье, наиболее близким к ним является современный чеченский язык. М.Л. Хачикян, Мар.Н.Я. в своих научных трудах отмечают о том, что Древней Передней Азии, начиная с середины 3-го тысячелетия до.н.эры, до-конца 1-го тысячелетия д.н.эры территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи был тем народом, культурное влияние которых на остальные народы данного региона в плоть до Египта и Северного Средиземноморья, было доминирующим. Культурное влияние предков чеченцев (урарто - этрусков) на европейские народы не ограничивалось данными языка.Такие мировые произведения литературы и фольклeра, как " Миф о сотворении мира", "Миф о Пигмалионе", "Миф о Прометее" и другие по мнению большинства мировых ученных возникли в пeрвые у древнего народа Месопoтамии, ныне представленных на Кавказе.Чеченцы (Нахчи).Именно на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков (цанар) империи в Месопотамии в частности Урарту зародилась школа и университет, где обучали различным наукам, письму, счету, геометрии, алгебре.Были найдены клинописные таблички, свидетельствующие о знаниях чеченцев в этих научных областях.В одной из них доказывается теорема о подобии прямоугольных треугольников, которую приписывают финикийскому (греческому) ученному Евклиду. Историкам стало известно, что на территории древнего чеченского аланского народа Чианти этрусков Чианти (цанар) империи городе Шадумуме (Урарту) её приняли за 17 веков до Евклида. Обнаружены также математические таблицы, с помощью которых они умножали, извлекали квадратные корни, возводили различные степени, выполняли деление и вычисляли проценты.
I'd like to see a dna study. Their paintings often show them as having pale blue eyes and light but not blonde hair .
Considering men were all depicted with dark hair, while blonde only appears on women who were renowed for their use of sophisticated cosmetics, it'd be in line with their supposed origin in Asia Minor.
Dying hair blonde used to be a custom among Romans, so they could have inherited that from Etruscans as with many other elements of their culture.
Is BCE pc for BC?
Yeah it's ridiculous
Only the last three Kings of Rome were "Etruscan". Read my historical novel "Gli ultimi Re di Roma" i.e. the last Kings of Rome; the first english edition is in progress. There is a new research about their language that seems to be related to the Kartvelian or south-caucasian languages (Georgian, Svan, Mingrelian, Laz). Also the Urartian language perhaps belonged to the same family, and so for that of the Hatti people, who inhabited central and eastern Anatolia before the Hittites' arrival in the region. Much work for scholars!
Can I post this video to my RUclips channel with translation to Ukrainian language for ukrainian speaking community?
how did I miss this?
Very well explained. I personally live close to one of the once Etruscan colonies. Please learn to pronounce the cities correctly...this will allow those watching, learn the importance of saying the names of the cities as they should be said. Other than that, the video is excellent...thank you.
In Serbian liver is called: jetra. In proto-slavic etro. Sanskrit: antra. Why saying this? Well, it sounds like Etruscans, people working with livers.
I wondered if they were Rus - (Russia area ...
But good call on the language phonetics.
Their Goddess "Uni" is the Roman "Juno".
Tonal affliction change on the vowels - "accent"
Liver - divination - and they have that bronze sheep liver which shows the celestial houses and what God and goddess lives where and in what house.
It is too bad the works of Emperor Claudius 1st, were lost, he made a full history of the people, History ETC, With that all the guesswork and refinding what he put down would not have been needed!
Agreed. Cato the Elder apparently dedicated four of the books of the Origines to the Etruscans as well. I can't help but think that if Claudius' work on the Etruscans and Carthaginians had survived, that his reputation as an emperor would be higher.
would you say that society in pre-unification-under-Rome Italy was similar to the one in Greece? why does it "feel" less significant?
Because they didn't bother to record and document their history like Greeks did
Came here to write the same comment. The "dynamics" look similar. @C V maybe their records didn't survive.
@@AnerLucero if Greek records survived through the Roman conquest, there was no reason for the Etruscan records not to survive.
@@cv4809 bad luck
It seems to be a combination of a lack of historical engagement and bad luck in terms of what ended up surviving. The Romans were also lax with historical memory until the 3rd Century BCE.
Thanks.
Upvote for the defenestration positivity!
Is the statue at 20:00 wearing a Celtic torque? lol (It is). Celtic women were pretty damn liberated btw.
Nor really a sign of anything other than the woman wealthy enough to have a statue of herself made was also wealthy enough to have imported jewelry
🇹🇷if possible can you put
subtitles, thanks
woven into thus is the feeling of Egyptians.. too
dude, this is cool
Much better audio levels on this one.
The ATR mic works a lot better with PowerPoint than with Discord/OBS for whatever reason. I just got a new mic today, so I guess we'll see if it is an improvement.
GrandMasterTaco good point. I thought he’d have a real mic by now. But no.
J'adore cette vidéo sur les étrusque
They lived in the region of Toscana and Lazio
Italian..dalla finestra ... from the window!
my family dna comes directly from around the town of nola italy. no where else. we often thing of ourselves of etruscan. also that the conglomerate romans, who really had no culture of their own, took, stole and borrowed a lot of things from us including art, engineering, etc,,, our town of nola is on a plateau and it is walled. to this day our family name is on a few buildings there. so much more. the romans did a good job of wiping out our history to claim it for themselves.
It was the Etruscans built Rome, and whatever culture the Romans acquired came from the Greeks. How is it then that the Romans are so self-obsessed like they invented the world.
Is it "fenestra" or "window" that supposedly has Etruscan origins? Because "window" seems to have Nordic roots.
The Etruscan writing/letters look very similar to Phenician and Nordic Runes.
They are all related
They were really called tursakans and spoke Uraltaic Turkic, around 900 years later when the swedes/vikings became part of the GÖKTÜRK KHAGANATE and adopted the Göktürk alphabet with its runes and many Turkic words like Odin>odun(light/fire), and names like Thor, Hakan etc..
@@turistomer3702 I can't enjoy a single video without a Turkish revisionist making up claims.
@@XIXCentury it is what it is, the etruscans spoke Uraltaic - Turkic, DNA studies show a whopping 98% match between the Turkish and the Etruscans and this study was undertaken by several Italian universities, the Turkish language has two main branches ; uralic( in reference to Ural mou rain range in Siberia), which is spoken by many of the nordics and European countries including Sweden and yes I know the Swedish language technicaly is German but it has so many (several thousand) Turkish words and uses the turcic runetic alphabet and the Turkic tengric belief system, hence Turkic names like ODIN, Thor, Hakan etc.,
When after the fall of troy, a party of trojans went back to the nordics and were received by the Swedish King Gyfyr, whom referred to them as Turcus and called them sons of Odin and said that his Turcus brethren had been living in center of the earth (in those days modern day Türkey was referred to as such in the nordics) and said that they had been tricked by a wooden horse and gave up his throne at once.
Re:Swen Sturlesson
Swen Lagerbring ( Lagerbring is an actual and a prominent historian and his works are far more comprehensive).
Window is not from Etruscan origin, I think you mean the latin fenestra that is of Etruscan origin - window is from old norse, funnily enough, modern day nordic languages use a term derived from the latin fenestra (fönster/fønster).
And that is why one should not comment too early....
Confusing that you keep referring to the 6th century etc, not the 6th century BC. Obviously the Etruscan civilisation was long gone by the 6th century AD but this would confuse many listeners.
I wonder if anyone alive now has ancient Etruscan ancestry, maybe people in modern day Tuscany, Italy? I know that the Romans took over but it'd be interesting to know.
I'm sure that many people in the region have a good bit of Etruscan DNA.
Most Etruscan men where r1b haplogroup, most of them where romanized and formed part of Rome and many elite families where paternally Etruscan in Roman civilization , before Rome became a republic they had 7 Etruscan kings , Etruscan descendants all over de Mediterranean all the way to northern France and Spain , and maybe even abroad since all these nations made colonies in the americas , they have specific snps in there haplogroups that show that they where all over Iberia , not to confused with northern r1b men with a diff variety of snps to there Y chromosome
How did the Etruscans fight? Was it just another version of the Greek phalanx? Seems like everyone in that era copied the Greeks, right?
Or was it just a collection of individual glory-seekers trying to see who could achieve the highest kill ratio lol?
I'm not entirely sure, but most people think that the early Romans and the Etruscans fought more or less as hoplites.
Way too many ads. Love the content but bailed halfway through due to too many ad interruptions
They’re are connected with the Illyrians
Then maybe. But you are definetely not.
@@GGTanguera what do you mean definitely not. Check Etruscan is almost exactly the same to Albanian today. Or old Illyrian language 🇦🇱🇽🇰🇦🇱🇽🇰🇦🇱🇽🇰
@@albancutaj8135 Outside of Albanian propaganda there is no material evidence of the Etruscan and "Illyrian" language. Etruscans call themselves Raseni and "Illyrians" were Japodi, Liburni, etc.
Albanian language was standardized in 19 century.
@@GGTanguera i don’t have time to explain history to people like you. Just go on RUclips and see how similar is Etruscan with Albanian language. Then come back to me.
@@albancutaj8135 Your tone is funny. Correction arrogant.
Hello they are you. Saludos
I was one of them I am sure of it.
Lemnos and the Minoans, The Etruscans were related to the Minoans of Crete
Etruscan language was decoded by Serbian priest only because he used Serbian cyrilic ,they used to be called Rasceni like first Serbian state Rascia
Chariots make it a slam-dunk, they're Indo-European, regardless if the group they merged with kept the dominant language. Some of their stuff is SO Greek in style. Also wtf are they doing worshipping Apollo if we don't know where they came from?
Volterra was One of thier cities
Etruscan or tosci are abanian tribe did somebody compare just for curiosity
Totally where the Ancient Greek rich and famous spent their summer holidays. Kinda like the Hamptons of the 1st to 2nd millennium BCE
Can’t believe the teacher told me to throw a man through a window 😱
There's been a few people I met I wanted to definastrate...like the Gauls
a seculo = 100 years
We know where they came from because they had horses and chariots. Anyone who knows the ancient world knows where those came from. Maybe they joined a local group and for some reason took their language. Didn't they also pass some clearly Indo-European gods on to the Romans?
Horses and Chariots had spread into wider use bring adopted by non Indo-European peoples before the dawn of written history.
Best defenestration scene in any movie is that one in Braveheart where the king comes back home and he's like, fuck this, and throws his fruity son's boyfriend/advisor out of the window, absolute savage. IRL I think the Czechs had a thing for it at one point too, can't remember and not gonna wiki.
The Etruscans or the TÜRSAKA as they were called spoke Turkic-Uraltaic, the name TÜRSAKA means Turkic sheep herders, Asenna which they referred to sometimes is named after their homeland on the shores of the caspian sea, it is also the name of the promised land in the hereafter, and the name of the she-wolf that would lead them there.
Are the Etruscan's related to the Minoan's? Like maybe a mix of native people's and Minoan's. Because they would have existed at the same time as the Minoan's. It would explain things a bit. Because I know the Minoan's would set up colonies.
The Minoans disappeared from history by 1100 BCE. The Etruscans didn’t appear until about 700 BCE, or 900 BCE depending on how you define the Etruscan civilisation.
@@calebhowells1116 Well the Etruscans were first the Villanovan culture. They where believe to have been founded in the 1100's BC. So my theory is that when the Minoan civilization was ending many of them branched out to find new places to call home. Ultimately mixing with different cultures. The Etruscans might be one of those peoples.
Could you make more videos about their religions origins? Not necessarily talking about the myth, but about the stories behind their social creation. For example, the narrative that talks about how Zeus got his throne from his father, who betrayed his own father, is a Hittite export. Greeks took it and applied it to their father sky god. Or how Aphrodite is not really Greek, but a third (maybe forth) hand adaptation of the Sumerian Inana.
That could make for a good future topic. I'll keep it in mind.
@@Evagelopoulos862 I think it's academic common knowledge that Aphrodite is NOT an original Greek goddess and that many of her myths and characterization come from the middle east (you find her nowhere in Mycenean texts although later on she and Zeus were the only PanHellenic gods, also Adonis is just a title for Dumuzi, like "lord", and let's not forget that Aphrodite is also named Areia and her caprice causes the Trojan War just like Inana isn't really a war goddess, more of a spoiled brat). And Zeus IS a sky father, so much so that his roman counter part's name "Jupiter" literally means sky father = Dyeus ph2tēr (Dieus Pater / Zeus Father). Why do you think he fathers Aphrodite in some versions taking the place of Ouranos?
On further explanation, even though Inana and Ishtar were syncretized, if you read the Sumerian and Akkadian texts separately, you'll see that Ishtar was the warrior one and Inana not so much (even though both were chaotic goddesses)! I really think that it was the patronage she had over Sargon that caused a turn on her portrayal strongly associating her with war.
@@Evagelopoulos862 One more thing, one recent theory that is not really well studied as far as I've seen, is not questioning whether Aphrodite is based on Ishtar or not (this is settled), the recent debate revolves around arguing whether Eos, the dawn goddess, actually is the ORIGINAL Greek Aphrodite, losing importance when Aphrodite comes to Greece imported from the Phoenicians. And by original I mean connected to a proto-indoeuropean tradition. I've seen people arguing that Eos, Aurora, Freyja, Ishtar and others were cut from the same cloth, but a MUCH older one.
@@Evagelopoulos862 but you disagree based on what proofs? Do you follow any specific scholar? You can't really deny scientific knowledge with only a hunch or opinions, right? That's how you become anti-vax, a flat-earther or a Christian apologist! What Latin distortion? Sappho herself wrote about Adonis!
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