Very cool. I love that Roland is creating new expansions for existing hardware instead of putting out a new workstation that you have to buy to get new features. I don't mind paying for these expansions in that case because it makes sense. This is a great business model and I hope it continues. And Jack...get excited! Don't let anyone dampen your enthusiasm.
@@michaels8607 it’s a loonnnnnggggg drawn out process, not very intuitive. Impossible to record loops and then edit due to the lack of tools. No warp or time stretch so you have to record at the tempo you are working at and commit. Even creating your own kits is such a drag. You’ll find out very quickly the shortcomings and backward step in lots of areas. On the Roland forum you are advised to add an MPC Live or One to make up for the shortcomings which is grand if you have the money. It’s not a workstation, it’s a synth so bear this in mind because it’s fooled a lot of people. Oh, and no bug updates or workflow improvements for a whole year now. No feedback from the developers either. Really poor. Some users have reported simple bugs and they have just been ignored completely. Roland have massive focus on DAW integration and using the Cloud subscription to get the most out of your instrument.
@@SunlightOfTheSpirit Ok,so Roland drops the ball again,like they did not supporting nor upgrading the MV8800. If it were not for Mike Acosta they would not have even known how to present it,and most of the info is from third party people,not Roland themselves. I have the Ensoniq ASR 10 which focused on sampling and being a workstation. I think I will just get the HydraSynth Deluxe and then prop a sampler like my Polyend Tracker or my EM-U E6400 and go from there..OR just get to MPC Key61..I have to try both ideas and see how they mesh..
The n/Zyme engine is great. Love the Fantom line. Self-sampling on layered sounds is a powerful tool. the Editing is far easier IMO than the other workstations at this price range. Love the videos.
Congrats on nearly 100k subs. Do believe I'm gonna have to add this expansion to my already amazing Fantom. Fantastic demo by Mr.Pimblott and the always entertaining Jack Duxbury with his famous sidekick the Maltese Falcon who is never on camera enough.
Always thought this should be done with the Jupiter-X. A wavetable expansion that requires an external mobile device (iPad / Tablets), to work as a programmer. That would also solve the ‘small screen’, ‘menu diving hell’ gripe a lot have had. Plus more hardware wavetable options from Roland would be great. A Jupiter wavetable engine would be cool being it called, Jupiter-XYZ. Hence, XYZ axis.
Great video, great channel, great keyboard players... Congrats Andertons. That`s my dream to have this keyboard, I get goosebumps every time I hear those synth sounds. Saving money to buy one. I'll come back here to say when I get mine.
Roland synth sounds are so friendly and musical, if that's what you're after. I think paired with an aggressive synth or two you'd be set. What am I saying you can never have enough synths!
@@Pulse2AM You wrote kit, I responded the way I wanted to,and it does not matter. I do not care about your so called explanation. You know what you meant,or so you say,and that's all that matters.I respond the way I want to,and there's nothing to be done about it. You put it out there to the public so you get exactly what you get..
I would rate this synthesizer as close to ideal, especially for the Psy-Trance and Psy Progressive genres! (If you listen to such cool projects as E-Mantra, Ace Ventura, Sideform, Protonica). Roland Fantom produces a rich and modern sound.
@@alexanderratmansky1908 I disagree about it sounding 'like a toy'! Seriously?! The virus was a great unit, but it's getting on just a bit now. My Fantom pairs well with the OB-6 and Hydrasynth and it's got so much hard/soft support. But each to their own.
Its funny, this keyboard has the most back panel outputs of any other keyboard on the market. I'd love to see a video with about 70% of them being used with different devices
Who said Roland only repackages their own vintage stuff? Oh yeah, I guess I'll eat those words. I wish n/Zyme was available on Jupiter X/XM... Fantom looks pretty compelling if you want some Roland kit! Speaking of Roland Kit - where do I get one of the tshirts Andy is wearing? LOVE IT!
Best sounds from a Roland, but I've just bought pigments 4 for only £70 that combines Analog, wavetable, sample and harmonics over 2 engine's and sounds just as freaking amazing!
Between the Montage/MODX series, Korg Nautilus and the Roland Fantom/Fantom-0 series of synths it is a wonderful time for ANYONE interested in music. EDIT: I'll even toss in the MPC Key 61 as well. Simply put. Any of these plus an iPad and a decent set of monitors and you're f*cking golden.
@@xp50player not sure how looking out for anything would help Roland with not including the Dbeam here. This ship has sailed. They missed the mark on that one.
@@xp50player Roland is not going to go onto Reverb and buy them and retro fit them into these devices. Would make no sense. It is a simple optic sensor and control board. It should have been included in the design. That was the point of the comment..
Sounds very impressive. Great job! I have few questions. 1) Have you used the presets sounds in this demo or it’s custom made? 2) This sound engine comes in Fantom EX or optional? 3) I have watched many videos because I am interested in buying 88 keys workstation I have a 2 keyboard in my mind Montage M8X & Fantom8 EX. I have played the Fantom6 EX I love the Synth sounds and pianos but other sounds like wind instruments and guitars are very poor and also lacking of combinations sounds, Montage M is very impressive when it comes to acoustic instruments voices. Is there any explanation for acoustic instruments voices then please suggest. 4) As I mentioned that I have watched many videos of both the products and I found feet videos on Fantom’s polyphony issues specially in layer sounds. That issue is solved or not because I do use layer sounds for movie background work.? It would be great if you can reply so that I will make the purchase of Fantom8. I have RD2000 and I am very happy with the key feel. Thank you so much! 🙏❤
The Fantom 0 series do not have the sufficient computing power to run Supernatural, ABM Models, Zen-Core (the base synth engine),VTW and another engine at the same time properly. Supernatural polyphony is already terrible as it is with the piano cutting off with one instance.
@@ablesam hope korg can add other features like this roland and not removing those buttons like Nautilus cuz if the touch screen is broken the keyboard will be useless, and hope they can add sample pad on new korg model.
@@krosstechguy3290 We hope. The Nautilus is a temporary Kronos replacement as a workstation, but its OS succeeds the one in the Kronos. So it is a successor in some ways and a reduction in its onboard controller capabilities. I'm assuming that production of the next flagship will go into production (way) later this year and maybe we will see a few leaks this Dec/Early Jan.
I had a chance to get this keyboard for £1900 before Dawsons went bust, and I soo wish I did. I thought I'd see it that price soon somewhere but I've not seen anything and it's value has actually went up quite a bit. It's probably the only other board I would consider dropping my Kronos for to play shows.
As good as this sounds, I’ve bought a Fantom 7 (£3k) and am a subscriber to Roland Cloud (£179 a year). Keeping n/zyme out of the Roland Cloud subscription seems like a cynical attempt to milk your most loyal users. Thanks but no thanks.
n/zyme is a wavetable oscillator synth with phase modulation/shaping and draw your own waveform. The vector feature was already part of the Fantom as the Motional Pad, in which you can select 4 zones in a scene to crossfade with your finger on the screen, or apply motion automation.
Does it allow for the installation of other branded VST's such as Synthesizer V the hyper realistic vocal singing engine? How about MPE the midi2 type of humanizing notes in real time? These are some of the grooviest tools for music composition and might fit under the hood of these giant furniture sized interfaces with its different button and fader arrays to replace a 101 typing keyboard and such. I dunno about what these newer fantoms can pull off, though did purchase a new fantom S way back and still use it as my go to for much as a input device. I prefer guitar so got a Jamstik midi guitar, and it runs directly into the fantom and does so faster with not detectable time delay, unlike when using a computer based VST softsynth as the sound engine for the guitar. After recording, then its ok to port the recorded data into the computer to mod and edit. It would be nice to see a hardware version such as giant hulking keyboard to overcome the reliance on menu driven functionality that causes a bottleneck in workflow. It should emulate the full capability of a DAW with all the luxuries kept in one place within the shell of the instrument. Be interesting to see Roland have another go at modelling a new MPE capable midi guitar that has everything built in, even full high end speakers and computer/s under the pickguard, various sensors for triggers and morphers of notes during performance. If they were wiser, they would hire an idiot like me in the R&D dept as a creative director.
The bass part was kind of funny cause if you were wearing headphones it was pretty weak sounding. with pigments 4 being in everyones reach not sure what the future holds for roland.
In my opinion Roland have lost the Roland "we design the future" feel, Other brands have come much longer in design and feel of the instrument. Sorry to say that after i spent + $ 20.000 on Roland gear,...😶
Excellent engine. It's been out for absolutely ages though - and followed up by absolutely nothing for the Fantom by Roland! Odd that Roland are out on the road promoting this now, rather than, say, launching a JD-800 expansion, for the Fantom (which has been available on other Roland models for months now). Seems like the Fantom is unfortunately become a bit stale as a supposedly evolving platform. It's been a year since it's last OS update too, so not even any new sequencer or usability tweaks either.
I can't help thinking this comment has been made thousands of times, and it's a pointless comparison since the workflow, tactility and general "feel" are so different as to make the comparison liken to apples vs oranges.
Coming from years of that setup (controller, computer, plugins), I asked myself the same thing when considering a workstation. There’s room for both, and it depends on how serious you are about creating your own signature sounds, whether you're interested in a creative workflow without reliance on a computer. I thought I never would get a workstation again. Yet, I did. Why? A midi controller is pretty useless without a computer or synth modules. Good plugins aren't cheap. Plugins bring latency and the more there are, the worse it gets. Plugins can break with OS updates. A single sound that you can generate with FANTOM's 16 stackable tones, individually customizable effects and routing, all with no latency or CPU cost on your computer basically makes a DAW more simple to use. There's plenty of downsides to the FANTOM compared to sequencers that offer linear recording (like previous Fantoms), samplers that offer real time performance capabilities (like the Boss looper). I have a decent list of frustrations with the FANTOM sequencing workflow. Nothing nobody else hasn't already mentioned. I agree with @vithaj92 that it is hard to compare the two. I see room for both depending on what pleases you.
What is the actual programming language that Roland went with for the processor? It's perhaps an android type of variant within a added type of roland shell? Anyone hacked these to boost/modernize/simplify the functionality? Are there a bunch of lawyers that would legally be allowed to lock me in a room filled with steroidal murderous sociopaths if anyone modded a roland product? Sure. electrocution by means of removing the panel to hack the device is a concern, though one should not have to worry about savages in 3pc suits harvesting a vital prized kidney or sending me to the chair for modding a musical instrument. Its like the long wait for the front door to be knocked down by the authorities for removing the do not remove label from pillows..
Jack: "...the whole history of Roland in one patch..." Legend!
Very cool. I love that Roland is creating new expansions for existing hardware instead of putting out a new workstation that you have to buy to get new features. I don't mind paying for these expansions in that case because it makes sense. This is a great business model and I hope it continues. And Jack...get excited! Don't let anyone dampen your enthusiasm.
fantom is the best product to ever leave a factory. I love my fantom 8
I absolutely LOVE my Fantom❤And it just keeps getting better and better😊
Do you sample with it and how much do you like the sampling workflow?
@@michaels8607 That is actually the one thing I have not done.
@@gretareinarsson7461 oh,ok.
@@michaels8607 it’s a loonnnnnggggg drawn out process, not very intuitive. Impossible to record loops and then edit due to the lack of tools. No warp or time stretch so you have to record at the tempo you are working at and commit. Even creating your own kits is such a drag. You’ll find out very quickly the shortcomings and backward step in lots of areas. On the Roland forum you are advised to add an MPC Live or One to make up for the shortcomings which is grand if you have the money. It’s not a workstation, it’s a synth so bear this in mind because it’s fooled a lot of people. Oh, and no bug updates or workflow improvements for a whole year now. No feedback from the developers either. Really poor. Some users have reported simple bugs and they have just been ignored completely. Roland have massive focus on DAW integration and using the Cloud subscription to get the most out of your instrument.
@@SunlightOfTheSpirit Ok,so Roland drops the ball again,like they did not supporting nor upgrading the MV8800. If it were not for Mike Acosta they would not have even known how to present it,and most of the info is from third party people,not Roland themselves. I have the Ensoniq ASR 10 which focused on sampling and being a workstation. I think I will just get the HydraSynth Deluxe and then prop a sampler like my Polyend Tracker or my EM-U E6400 and go from there..OR just get to MPC Key61..I have to try both ideas and see how they mesh..
The n/Zyme engine is great. Love the Fantom line. Self-sampling on layered sounds is a powerful tool. the Editing is far easier IMO than the other workstations at this price range. Love the videos.
Congrats on nearly 100k subs. Do believe I'm gonna have to add this expansion to my already amazing Fantom. Fantastic demo by Mr.Pimblott and the always entertaining Jack Duxbury with his famous sidekick the Maltese Falcon who is never on camera enough.
Not there yet.
Fantom line has always been great. Still love my G8.
Always thought this should be done with the Jupiter-X. A wavetable expansion that requires an external mobile device (iPad / Tablets), to work as a programmer. That would also solve the ‘small screen’, ‘menu diving hell’ gripe a lot have had. Plus more hardware wavetable options from Roland would be great. A Jupiter wavetable engine would be cool being it called, Jupiter-XYZ. Hence, XYZ axis.
that's a great idea as i have a Jupiter-X.
What about some catering add-ons? Toasted sandwich maker or a coffee machine, for example?
They’d never do that because Roland wants to force you to buy two expensive synths rather than choose one and have all the options.
Great overview of the n/zyme engine and its features. looking forward to more demo's of the other engines and keyboard functions. Thanks !!
We need Wc -1 on theFantom…please
N/Zyme sounds fantastic, wow the sound design bar has been raised very high, thank you for this video.
Great video, great channel, great keyboard players... Congrats Andertons. That`s my dream to have this keyboard, I get goosebumps every time I hear those synth sounds. Saving money to buy one. I'll come back here to say when I get mine.
I used my Fantom in many ways from creating patches, split/layered on my cover band..This keyboard is a beast..
wow I love my JUNO X but sure wish I could afford a Fantom. They are truly and amazing "all in one" synth.
One of the few times when Andy doesn't look very nervous. Seems he really got this nailed. Great demo!
Being the public face of probably the most influential and longest running audio company's is no small thing. Obviously there is going to be nerves.
wow. that is amazing. I really want to give that synth a try.
The guy conducting the interview is asking good question - really impressed!
Great demo from Andy. Sounds great but on such an expensive board why do you have to pay £130 extra for a new synth engine?
Ok. I'm convinced. I'll be getting the Model Expansion soon!
Some of those modulation screens are very reminiscent of Modwave’s KAOSS pad. Cool!
The function of this is basically Sirum VST.
Excellent demo of this amazing synth
Roland synth sounds are so friendly and musical, if that's what you're after. I think paired with an aggressive synth or two you'd be set. What am I saying you can never have enough synths!
Of course you can have too many because they can become redundant..
@@michaels8607 It was humor.
@@Pulse2AM and???????Is there a point???I said what I said...move on...
@@Pulse2AM You wrote kit, I responded the way I wanted to,and it does not matter. I do not care about your so called explanation. You know what you meant,or so you say,and that's all that matters.I respond the way I want to,and there's nothing to be done about it. You put it out there to the public so you get exactly what you get..
typo..it,not kit...hehehehe
They gave Fantom a Serum and it created a new NZyme.
Excellent demo guys ! The n/zyme is absolutely stunning, I love it.
cool demo - interesting tech with n/zyme
I would rate this synthesizer as close to ideal, especially for the Psy-Trance and Psy Progressive genres! (If you listen to such cool projects as E-Mantra, Ace Ventura, Sideform, Protonica). Roland Fantom produces a rich and modern sound.
just try access virus. roland still sounds like a toy to it.
@@alexanderratmansky1908 I disagree about it sounding 'like a toy'! Seriously?! The virus was a great unit, but it's getting on just a bit now. My Fantom pairs well with the OB-6 and Hydrasynth and it's got so much hard/soft support. But each to their own.
Nice one! Now we need n/zyme engine for MC101!
Its funny, this keyboard has the most back panel outputs of any other keyboard on the market. I'd love to see a video with about 70% of them being used with different devices
Who said Roland only repackages their own vintage stuff? Oh yeah, I guess I'll eat those words. I wish n/Zyme was available on Jupiter X/XM... Fantom looks pretty compelling if you want some Roland kit! Speaking of Roland Kit - where do I get one of the tshirts Andy is wearing? LOVE IT!
Feels like they put Arturia's Pigment and a salt of Korg’s modwave in the fantom.
Best sounds from a Roland, but I've just bought pigments 4 for only £70 that combines Analog, wavetable, sample and harmonics over 2 engine's and sounds just as freaking amazing!
Good choice, no software or bug updates now for a whole year on the Fantom. Forgotten about. Enzyme is a year old now.
There are free software sythersizors that do the exact same such as Vital.
Still waiting for the next update....Nzyme came out nearly 1 year ago....
it sounds huge ... thanks for the demo
Between the Montage/MODX series, Korg Nautilus and the Roland Fantom/Fantom-0 series of synths it is a wonderful time for ANYONE interested in music.
EDIT: I'll even toss in the MPC Key 61 as well. Simply put. Any of these plus an iPad and a decent set of monitors and you're f*cking golden.
Andy’s brilliant
It looks and sounds like Roland is channeling their inner Waldorf.
Just not as good in sound 😜
This sound great. Seems like the Montage morpher that was added in the last update, but with some more parameters. It sounds really nice.
❤ my G7, maybe will have to get the last great workstation
Incredible!!!
Man I do wish they hadn't lost the Dbeam when they made this. I would have been all over it.
Watch out for the hardware Dimension Beam by Interactive Light, before Roland bought the technology.
@@xp50player not sure how looking out for anything would help Roland with not including the Dbeam here. This ship has sailed. They missed the mark on that one.
@@bryantwalley - they pop up on reverb if you really miss that feature.
@@xp50player Roland is not going to go onto Reverb and buy them and retro fit them into these devices. Would make no sense. It is a simple optic sensor and control board. It should have been included in the design. That was the point of the comment..
Agreed. Roland seem to be ignoring the mighty D-beam on their recent products. Expressivity is king
Super intresting Synthesizer and it sound realy great 😊👍
Sounds great
Jack @13:20 😂Love it!
Please can you make enzyme available for fantom-0 Mr Andy from Roland 🙏🙏
Very impressive
4:20 Oh Yes!!!!
Great video If we can have one every day 100k subs would be complete within 2 weeks........Lovely sounds i'm in love with it. lol
Sounds very impressive. Great job! I have few questions. 1) Have you used the presets sounds in this demo or it’s custom made? 2) This sound engine comes in Fantom EX or optional?
3) I have watched many videos because I am interested in buying 88 keys workstation I have a 2 keyboard in my mind Montage M8X & Fantom8 EX. I have played the Fantom6 EX I love the Synth sounds and pianos but other sounds like wind instruments and guitars are very poor and also lacking of combinations sounds, Montage M is very impressive when it comes to acoustic instruments voices. Is there any explanation for acoustic instruments voices then please suggest.
4) As I mentioned that I have watched many videos of both the products and I found feet videos on Fantom’s polyphony issues specially in layer sounds. That issue is solved or not because I do use layer sounds for movie background work.? It would be great if you can reply so that I will make the purchase of Fantom8. I have RD2000 and I am very happy with the key feel.
Thank you so much! 🙏❤
One word: Majestic
Sounds like a power plant wit some failed cables in short circuit. What could be better?
Great demo, great expansion! One question: Did Jack enjoy his bender?
looks like aXfer Serum functionalities in Hardware format ;-)
big sounds
I need an Injection of Talent x.
What is this theme? 20:55 - 21:35 under the "thanks for watching" part. Very familiar for me.
Nice, but unless one's a producer or pro musician, the price is prohibitive unless the 0x series are enabled to load the n/zyme
The Fantom 0 series do not have the sufficient computing power to run Supernatural, ABM Models, Zen-Core (the base synth engine),VTW and another engine at the same time properly. Supernatural polyphony is already terrible as it is with the piano cutting off with one instance.
I wonder if you got options like the v synth gt? Or will they make another one ?
Works like Arturia Pigments, but in a very tasty albeit expensive workstation. Nice!
Pigments 4 is far more powerful, and cheaper in some countries (in comparison to n/zyme).
@@ablesam I have both and they are very complimentary that is true, but I love them equally.
Stunning
DO you have to pay a monthly fee to Roland to keep these sounds?
Wow!
Roland Fantom 0 owners need this, plz!
Not enough space (memory) or processing power to support n/zyme without sacrificing major resources (Zen-Core basic synth engine/supernatural).
We need this for the fantom 0, Roland!
Super nice. One day when I'm wealthy.
fantom is amazing
hope next year i can upgrade my keyboard from korg kross2 to this monster keyboard.
Wait for Kronos sucessor.
@@ablesam hope korg can add other features like this roland and not removing those buttons like Nautilus cuz if the touch screen is broken the keyboard will be useless, and hope they can add sample pad on new korg model.
@@krosstechguy3290 We hope. The Nautilus is a temporary Kronos replacement as a workstation, but its OS succeeds the one in the Kronos. So it is a successor in some ways and a reduction in its onboard controller capabilities. I'm assuming that production of the next flagship will go into production (way) later this year and maybe we will see a few leaks this Dec/Early Jan.
That sounds nice actually -- I approve!
Top ❤❤❤ Great 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
This looks like a playful piece of kit. I also do not dig Waldorfs. Their 'sweetspot' seems to lie a bit deep, with little musicality inbetween.
Flagship Fantom is awesome but it's a bit over priced. I can get similar sounds from a Korg Wavestate.
Now add a computer, a VPiano , and an Integra rack.. and plug that all in at gigs...
@@poison7512 Exactly!
Is this available for 0 series?
❤Phantom
I wish that demos by Roland would allow Jack to play part of the time.
While I’m intrigued, this board is out of my price range.
Is there a legit reason why this isn’t compatible with the Fantom-0 series or it’s just arbitrary gatekeeping?
Not enough processing power. 2 BMC on Fantom-0 and 4 on FANTOM. Also less space.
@@ablesam Fair enough, thanks for the reply!
I had a chance to get this keyboard for £1900 before Dawsons went bust, and I soo wish I did. I thought I'd see it that price soon somewhere but I've not seen anything and it's value has actually went up quite a bit. It's probably the only other board I would consider dropping my Kronos for to play shows.
Bargain.
Yeah it sounds great but Yamaha Montage performance modes are unbelievable
Dammit.. I was totally hooked on the Prophet X 8Dio and then you go and scamble my choices.
Jan 2023 and they're still talking about n/Zyme? Kind of outdated, no? Where is the NEW synth engines and models for the Fantom?
Like a Serum?
As good as this sounds, I’ve bought a Fantom 7 (£3k) and am a subscriber to Roland Cloud (£179 a year). Keeping n/zyme out of the Roland Cloud subscription seems like a cynical attempt to milk your most loyal users. Thanks but no thanks.
Yea, combining 16 parts will not work because you run out of polyphony quick. I love my fantom, but I'd treat it as maybe 4 part multi timbral.
yea yea yeah, yea yea yeah, nice demo
So n/zyme is just the Vector Synthesizer in software for?
n/zyme is a wavetable oscillator synth with phase modulation/shaping and draw your own waveform. The vector feature was already part of the Fantom as the Motional Pad, in which you can select 4 zones in a scene to crossfade with your finger on the screen, or apply motion automation.
É um brinquedo caro no Brasil. Infelizmente 😕
Finally, a Waldorf-style synth with Roland’s awkward programming engine.
Blue RGB knobs for PPG
Does it allow for the installation of other branded VST's such as Synthesizer V the hyper realistic vocal singing engine?
How about MPE the midi2 type of humanizing notes in real time?
These are some of the grooviest tools for music composition and might fit under the hood of these giant furniture sized interfaces with its different button and fader arrays to replace a 101 typing keyboard and such.
I dunno about what these newer fantoms can pull off, though did purchase a new fantom S way back and still use it as my go to for much as a input device.
I prefer guitar so got a Jamstik midi guitar, and it runs directly into the fantom and does so faster with not detectable time delay, unlike when using a computer based VST softsynth as the sound engine for the guitar. After recording, then its ok to port the recorded data into the computer to mod and edit.
It would be nice to see a hardware version such as giant hulking keyboard to overcome the reliance on menu driven functionality that causes a bottleneck in workflow.
It should emulate the full capability of a DAW with all the luxuries kept in one place within the shell of the instrument.
Be interesting to see Roland have another go at modelling a new MPE capable midi guitar that has everything built in, even full high end speakers and computer/s under the pickguard, various sensors for triggers and morphers of notes during performance.
If they were wiser, they would hire an idiot like me in the R&D dept as a creative director.
how well does it sync with midi??
The Fantom syncs with everything. It has the best I/O (and audio/midi over USB) than anything I've used. Integration with DAWs is superb.
The bass part was kind of funny cause if you were wearing headphones it was pretty weak sounding. with pigments 4 being in everyones reach not sure what the future holds for roland.
The audio has a low cut in video processing.
@@HOLLASOUNDS True. Get the Fantom in your studio and it can make your sub rattle the door frames.
no doubt many people love it. However, It sounds too polished & homogenised for my tastes.
Can you hook up the Fantom like the 101/707 to an iPad and use the Fandom to bring in audio from iOS applications?
In my opinion Roland have lost the Roland "we design the future" feel, Other brands have come much longer in design and feel of the instrument. Sorry to say that after i spent + $ 20.000 on Roland gear,...😶
Come on, it's just a wavetable expansion. Definitely nice, but then again, nothing to get so exited about...
For those who are not DAW based then this is a big deal,
😮
Buzzy beeeoowwimbwAaapzzzzeeeop.Brrrzzzzzappp! EXPEN$$$IVE.
И где Ваш roland-0 серии. По качеству звука, он рядом не стоял. Funtom, то что нужно, всё остальное просто обрубки.
Excellent engine. It's been out for absolutely ages though - and followed up by absolutely nothing for the Fantom by Roland! Odd that Roland are out on the road promoting this now, rather than, say, launching a JD-800 expansion, for the Fantom (which has been available on other Roland models for months now). Seems like the Fantom is unfortunately become a bit stale as a supposedly evolving platform. It's been a year since it's last OS update too, so not even any new sequencer or usability tweaks either.
Jack lookin a bit under the weather
I can't help thinking you're better off with a controller keyboard and a laptop with a bunch of VSTs etc.
I can't help thinking this comment has been made thousands of times, and it's a pointless comparison since the workflow, tactility and general "feel" are so different as to make the comparison liken to apples vs oranges.
Coming from years of that setup (controller, computer, plugins), I asked myself the same thing when considering a workstation. There’s room for both, and it depends on how serious you are about creating your own signature sounds, whether you're interested in a creative workflow without reliance on a computer. I thought I never would get a workstation again. Yet, I did.
Why? A midi controller is pretty useless without a computer or synth modules. Good plugins aren't cheap. Plugins bring latency and the more there are, the worse it gets. Plugins can break with OS updates. A single sound that you can generate with FANTOM's 16 stackable tones, individually customizable effects and routing, all with no latency or CPU cost on your computer basically makes a DAW more simple to use. There's plenty of downsides to the FANTOM compared to sequencers that offer linear recording (like previous Fantoms), samplers that offer real time performance capabilities (like the Boss looper). I have a decent list of frustrations with the FANTOM sequencing workflow. Nothing nobody else hasn't already mentioned.
I agree with @vithaj92 that it is hard to compare the two. I see room for both depending on what pleases you.
Exactly!
What is the actual programming language that Roland went with for the processor? It's perhaps an android type of variant within a added type of roland shell?
Anyone hacked these to boost/modernize/simplify the functionality?
Are there a bunch of lawyers that would legally be allowed to lock me in a room filled with steroidal murderous sociopaths if anyone modded a roland product?
Sure. electrocution by means of removing the panel to hack the device is a concern, though one should not have to worry about savages in 3pc suits harvesting a vital prized kidney or sending me to the chair for modding a musical instrument.
Its like the long wait for the front door to be knocked down by the authorities for removing the do not remove label from pillows..