Star Trek: 10 Episodes That Paid Off WAY Later
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- Star Trek knows how to tease and deliver, even if it takes a little longer than expected.
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I don't think "Strange New Worlds" would've ever happened if Anson Mount hadn't been so perfect as Pike and if there hadn't been such excellent chemistry between Pike, Number One, and Spock. From the moment he first appeared as the character, he just FELT like Pike. I like all the "Star Trek" shows (to varying degrees), but I'm looking forward to "Strange New Worlds" more than I have for any new "Star Trek" in many, many years.
@ C. Scott Davis EXACTLY! You are absolutely right!!! With Anson Mount came CHARISMA+++ It seemed as if he caused everyone on Discovery to suddenly have charisma! It was amazing. I watched a few Discovery episodes the next season but that was it. Yes, I too eagerly await Strange New Worlds; they kept pushing it further and further out and I wondered if it would EVER debut.
For me, it was when he asked the entire bridge crew's names and immediately remembered them all.
We/Us is the reason for Strange New Worlds. Anson Mount stepped into this role with magnificent aplomb. I predict SNW turns out to be the jewel in the ST crown👌
I have to agree, I was pretty down with Picard but there is just something about the execution that always misses for me. But when I saw the concept behind Strange New Worlds I thought... so, it's just Star Trek then? Exploration and seeing cool new stuff? Yeah, that's what I'm here for.
@@DanielSolis and the humor of his academy results
"Troubles with tribbles"! While the DS9 episode did not affect a future episode, it did affect a PAST episode! It's sooo good
Yes! That's a pretty big oversight.
"For every Julian Bashir, there is always a Khan Noonian Singh waiting in the wings."
My favorite payoff starts in TNG season 2 Samaritan Snare where Captain Picard talks about getting into a fight with some Nausicaans, including laughing when he was stabbed. Fast forward to season 6 Tapestry when we get to see it happen.
Yes!
And we got to see WHY he laughed...it was an amazing payoff
@@bradwolf07 I never thought of that wow
I remember when Worf etc are cast back to the original Enterprise with Kirk etc where, upon seeing the 'other' Klingons, Worf was asked why they were different, only to respond he didn't want to talk about it.
I found the way in which the Klingons lost their cranial ridges in Enterprise to be quite enlightening and an appropriate explanation.
Ok... here is my opinion about the klingons cranial ridges or lack of. Here, on Earth, we have different races. Now basically we all look alike but skin colors and some other features are apparently different. The creators of ST could have used something like this. Say that smoothed headed klingons come from one part of their planet and the ridged ones from another part OR the differences could be 2 different klingon planets. I think the creators did too much overthinking with this . Didn't have to be this complicated!
Lower Decks episode "Kayshon, his eyes open" is also a very obvious nod to the Next Generation episode "Darmok".
TrekCulture, his eyes closed.
@@UnChannelDuVulpineX When the walls fell.
You forgot the evil alternate universe episode from TOS leading to multiple episodes of DS9, and pretty much leading to a tradition of each series doing an "evil episode" where everyone on the ship is a bad guy and they like to torture ppl.
I think Dark Page is probably Majel Barret's finest hour as Lwaxana. For the most part her character was rather obnoxious, but in this one (and I think Half a Life), she really stands out as a character.
Half a Life was great indeed; first episode that made me appreciate her. IMHO she also had some good scenes with Odo in DS9.
Majel deserved to be number one. She was a brilliant actress 🙌🏼💪🏼🙏🏼🖖🏼
@@FiXato Agree, she is much more complex than we first are meant to give her credit for. Low key fell in love with "Stacey's Mom" after that episode. 😅
The one you missed was how Worf's son Alexander was brought back in the Deep Space Nine episode "Sons and Daughters". We get to see what Alexander has been doing and how he is still trying to get his father's approval
I think it would be better if we forget Alexander, he is more whiny and annoying than Wesley
@@candle86 Well.... he is Worf's kid so whiny, annoying and entitled does fit.
I guess Maddox accomplished his original goal after all.
Also the storyline about Wolf's father and the duras family was an awesome plot line that ran through multiple episodes.
I love your boundless enthusiasm for ST in all its iterations - this is obviously more than "just a job" to you! Live long and prosper Seán!
Well said! Sean is amazing.
The Gorn: introduced in Arena, never seen again until Mirror Universe Enterprise (and switched from a rubber suit to CGI) and then finally shown on Lower Decks.
Gorn but not forgotten
@@tetravega567 Argh! (I do love puns!)
Gorn was in animated 1970's series
“…until, years later, a new writer, a new director, and a new audience pick up and create something beautiful.”
This is exactly why I love fan fiction.
or shit all over it
One error in your section about Moriarty, you mention that “Ship In A Bottle” is the last, to date episode to refer to Dr. Pulaski, that’s not correct. The last reference to Pulaski is actually in Voyager’s finale “Endgame”, where you can barely hear at one point, while future Janeway is visiting future Tuvok, someone pages “Dr. Pulaski” over the hospital PA.
Over 20 years, I never caught that reference or even heard someone mention it. I'm going to watch endgame now lol
I hope your pocket protector matches your coke bottle glasses.
@@Vesnicie Mine does!
A true sweaty neckbeard.
Eesh, why are you people insulting this guy? He’s doing what the video you clicked on and enjoyed did, only better.
Loved this concept, I would think that an episode just focusing on the eugenics war/fallout would be cool to see.
I suspect another payoff of "Space Seed" will be forthcoming. After this video was produced, one of the final (if not final) episode of "Picard" season two shows Adam Soong, devastated by his failure to stop the Europa mission, removing from a drawer a manila folder that is conspicuously marked "Kahn Project".
This is the best Trek review/commentary channel. Thank you!
Worf's brother, Kern, was such s badass. I really liked what he added to the show.
I loved him too. He was a great character to have around. His mind wipe never sat well with me, I wish they had done something else.
@@Alex-ye9pg That episode pisses me off to no end. They spend the whole episode moralizing about suicide and death and then "kill" Kern but kept the body alive (with a new face and a DNA re-sequence). How the hell is that any different than letting him kill himself?
IMDB says The Cage was first aired Aug 19, 1992. I saw it in High School back in the 70's on a local networks. Star Trek was on multiple local channels, some US, some Canadian, and aired 28 times per week. Around the sametime I met Gene in Seattle when he was promoting a new ST series. This was pre STTMP.
You might be thinking about "The Menagerie", which was a two-parter. It had scenes from "The Cage".
Would like to see Finnegan (Shore Leave) reintroduced as a major character.
That wild prankster personality he had could surely crop up now and then to make interesting stories.
They are introducing young Kirk in Strange New Worlds. It would be a great cal back if they had Finnegan and him as rivals.
One Discovery book reveals that Finnegan’s double was Emperor Georgiou’s enforcer, who liked to bludgeon her enemies with his club. Georgiou is very curious to meet the prime universe’s Finnegan in a prison
As one of the earliest die hard fans of Star Trek (the first season of TOS was aired past my bedtime, but on Christmas vacation 1966, I was allowed to watch it. That episode was Shore Leave, and I was hooked.
I love this video! Brought back some wonderful memories and explained a couple of things I had never understood, so thank you!
If you play Star Trek Online you could expand this list extensively, many missions are connected to Trek episodes or use them as a backstory especially the ones involving time travel.
Agreed, but I don't think ST:Online is considered Alpha canon
@@mrrobotreads Oh, its *definitely* considered Beta.
Don't forget the section 31 spinoff with the Terran Emperor Georgiou exploring the darker elements from the Mirror Universe transplanted in the Prime universe!
I love your work. Thanks for putting together all that you do! Have you ever approached the ST producers about a cameo role? You ought to. Fans would go wild.
The Mog clan gets exiled over a lie that protects the ruling clan, then Gowron, who re-enstates the Mog family name goes back on his word in order to protect the Duras as a peace offering to unite the clans. So, the only means left for Worf to reclaim his family's honor is to kill Gowron.
I wonder if the hilarious "eugenics virus erased Klingon ridges" thing is referenced in Lower Decks.
That was so beautiful, but the biggest missing link of payoffs is WOLF 359, Locutus and The Sisko
Great list. I love how you are able to connect different little plot points and easter eggs in one video. GJ!
I’d like to see TAS “reimagined”, as it were. The voice acting and writing were fine on that show. It’s Filmation’s limited animation (even more limited than usual, and that’s saying something) that lets the show down. I’d like to see it re-animated (although not in the Jeffrey Combs sense). My preference would be to see it done in a style similar to the series, but with more motion and expression (and no flesh coloured eyes), although CGI would be fine, as long as it’s good enough. There’s a real opportunity there to reintroduce some great stories back into the franchise!
Hey, if 80s Barbara Crampton can be included, I'd be 100% on board!
We have a new Kirk. We have a new Spock.
We have Pike and Number One.
We have L'Rell.
We need someone to recast Kor, Koloth, and Kang.
And perhaps, also, even Commodore Decker.
You do have a point.
I honestly would love to see TOS get an update as well. Keep the voices, but recreate the show visually. I'd love to see what the show could have been with a better budget and with modern technology.
@@AlexGreeneHypnotist No we don't the Audio is fine, just redo the Episodes with new animation
I've had this exact same thought many times over, and I completely agree. A modern/retro CGI ST:TAS would be WAY cool, and a great way to lend more legitimacy to the overlooked series!
I’d love to see Daniel Davis as Dr. Moriarity once more, as he figures out he’s trapped in another holodeck universe.
Lower Decks needs to do this.
What about howbCandyman looses himself so to speak in DS9? Another really emotional and great episode,
His name is Tony Todd, just in case you forgot.
@@notsyzagts7967 I can never remember his name either. :(
I only refer to him as Candyman.
In the Typhon Pact novel series, Riker and Troi named their daughter after Tasha Yar.
This was great! Would love to see more like this ☺️
Daniel Davis also played Niles on the Nanny
Yes, we know!
Very Nice Video Sean. Thank you.
great vid . you and Elie do a great job making these keep them coming
The eugenic super people and Klingon brow ridges is my favorite 'payoff' storylines. In the 'middle', we get Worf confronted about the Klingons on K-7...
I was today years old when I realized the DS9 episode was "Tacking Into the Wind".....I was always thinking it was Tracking 🤦
Yes! I would like to see a part 2 to this.
Excellent video sir, especially your well wishes at the very end
This is such a Rad video. Thank you for making this! Totally a star trek fan, this makes absolute sense 😁👍👍👍
Indeed yes more please and thanks for this!
Star Trek TNG's Moriarty episodes were brilliant - well thanks to the actor playing him! Brilliant performance by that man as Holme's nemesis, Dr. Moriarty!!
Great video. Thanks for the share. The notion of episodes that “pay off” later is an interesting one.
I particularly enjoy episodes that take place _during_ moments or missions previously depicted on screen. No, not like so-called “clip shows” (Riker’s TNG “Shades of Grey”) but like the DS9 episode “Trials & Tribblations” which nailed this concept. The VOY episode “Relativity” did it too sorta where Seven of Nine dropped in and out of past Voyager moments. Chakotay did this too during “Shattered”. Most recently of course SNW has shown a variation on this theme with an alternate take on TOS “Balance of Terror”. There are probably other examples.
A new show could embrace this concept by only showing known Trek moments but from new perspectives and fresh characters.
I’m hopeful the advent of virtual production/stage technology and projects like the Roddenberry Archive will make it easier to bring back all the starship and space locations regularly depicted in all the shows so they can be revisited on screen without having to physically reconstruct everything.
I can't believe you forgot The Borg, cos they wore supposed to be just in one episode, but spinned into movie and other series
Excellent list! Yes, I'd love to see more content like this!
I'd like to see Finnegan return, now that would be well worth seeing!
They are introducing young Kirk in Strange New Worlds. It would be a great call back if they had Finnegan and him as rivals.
By all means, more lists! I thoroughly enjoyed this.
Keep this coming!!
If they find a way for Archer, Pike, Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Saru and Rios to all meet, that'd be TV breaking history. NX01, 1701, 1701-A, 1701-D/E, Defiant, Voyager, Discovery and Stargazer. A story arc dealing in the Temporal Cold War. Star Trek Temporal-Verse, as it were
No love for Captain Freeman?
Perhaps in the sense that it would be historically bad.
Loved this video thanks
Yes please! More videos like this!
Awesome great video. Sean. Star Trek.
More please thanks for this.
How can they not include "Mirror Mirror" as its own entry. So many episodes spawned from that one. Much more applicable than "Elementary Dear Data".
Through the mirror darkly is not only a top 3 enterprise episode, top 3 of all the two part stories throughout the entire franchise, but also has one of the greatest twist endings throughout the entire franchise.
Absolutely need to do more-!
To put together a video like this, you really need to know your Trek.
Nicely done. 👍
Great video, love the payoffs as the franchise continues to grow and change
I didn't know Leslie Jordan was on Star Trek. Also, Doyle's estate is as bad as Disney.
Forgot the Traveler and Crusher. Cameo at the last episode of Picard...
Another great video👍
I was always surprised with Elementary Dear Data that Worf was not dressed wearing a turban.
No tribbles? Trekkies are rioting! 😂
Luv the vids thx 🙏
About number 10: I only find it a pitty that the makers did not hire the original Bruce Maddox actor for the ST Picard episode.
I remember reading he had given up acting some time ago (not sure how true that is). It's a shame as the character really turned around, both Maddox and Data end up as friends and write to each other.
@@Alex-ye9pg and then in Picard he dies horribly, just like Hugh, Icheb….
@@tbnone2501 those writers seem so hatefilled, they couldnt wait to brutally murder icheb in particular becuase the actor said some reprehensible things
You don't find it a pity that he managed to create his slave race? I mean it was part of the whole turn around to prove Data had rights and Picard writers pissed it away....like so much else.
Love this videos it also the first video i was this early to
Love it Yes I want to see more like this 🙂
If Memory Serves is prolly the greatest ST episode EVER!! As soon as I saw the old school footage, I was like..."Am I having a heart attack!?!? I spell toast don't I!?!?"
Q knew about the "time paradox" that the Borg caused during the NX-01 incident. (They sent a message that would reach the Delta Quadrant around the 24th century.)
One of the few responsibilities that the Q actually have is to keep the universe somewhat stable and reduce these paradoxes to a minimum. Q knew that the Borg were on the way, so that was the real reason why he was being a pain in the ass dragging the Enterprise-D to meet the cube. THAT CUBE WAS SENT AFTER RECEIVING THE SIGNAL FROM THE NX-01 INCIDENT.
Of course, this is not how most Q would have handled the situation.
But it gets deeper. In my personal head cannon, after the Enterprise-D made "first contact" with the Borg. Some history nerd at Starfleet thought this sounded "very familiar" and found the NX-01 incident and Starfleet was able to find more remnants in Antarctica (North Pole?) to study.
This is why Starfleet was able to respond so quickly. However, they then realized that something actually happened during the Vulcan First Contact also. Captain Archer had heard Zepham Cochran's make a drunken admission about time travelers that was later dismissed as "he's drunk". Suddenly, 24th century Starfleet starts to look much more carefully at that talk, and realizes that they need to classify everything. They figure out that a future Picard will be involved and thinks "if we can prevent the time travel incident, the Borg will have no reason to come here."
This is the real reason they send the Enterprise-E (dispite being the absolute best ship in the Fleet to protect Earth) out to guard the Neutral Zone. But they keep it classified, not telling anyone outside of the senior Admiralty. ESPECIALLY NOT Captain Picard because of the risk of causing more time Paradoxes.
(The the head of the "Department of Temporal Affairs mutters under his breath that Picard is worse than Kirk. LOL)
_All Good Things..._ 🤩
Great video
5:57 every one knows that in a 70s or 80s cartoon, if the camera zooms in to a character with a grumpy face, shits about to go down.
Another perfect video
This video is fabulous! When you got to # four, I thought, "No! Nothing is better than 'Space Seed'. But you convinced me otherwise. Although, I'd have had Space Seed # 2, City on the Edge of Forever third and The Cage number one.
and two months after this video was released we found out that a soong, specifically adam soong back in the 21st century, came up with the idea for the eugenics project.
More lists like this? Make them so! 🖖
If you do a follow up, please remember to mention Tribnles. Introduced in TOS and TAS then we get the DS9 episode when we see them again.
Actually, The Cage has never aired. It was first released on VHS in 1986 for Star Trek's 20th anniversary. It was B&W and colour footage stitched together because no colour print existed. A colour negative was found a few years later and was restored and included on dvd and Blu ray releases.
I love Star Trek Lower Decks!!!
Please bring it back....
Great list
Great video. Pointing this stuff out makes Star Trek all the more enjoyable!
Great video but there’s a reference to Dr Pulaski after Ship in a Bottle, shes briefly announced in Endgame part one
Hello Sean 😙 Great video yes create more like his 👌😘🥰
I had no idea Pike in the wheelchair after severe injury was imagined all that time ago. O.O
I know this is a trek only channel but I would live the see the top 5 longest flashbacks in scifi. Discover flashed all the way back to the cage. Doctor who flash 50 years back to its pilot. Both gave me goosebumps.
I wonder where Trouble with Tribbles would fit in there.
I prefer Worf to O'Brien RE TOS Klingon makeup: "We do not discuss it (the TMP Klingon redesign) with outsiders."
"Please, sir, I want some more."
I think the best one is the armus being print called in lower decks
For me, #2 makes me understand why Tholian silk is so prized in DS9 😄
oh that's what the thumbnail was about. i was thinking i don't remember him ever returning.
And ST:TNG "Dark Page" also gave us a young Kirsten Dunst. Who looks just like the older Kristen Dunst just...smaller😂. And wait...LESLIE JORDAN WAS IN STAR TREK??? HOW DID I MISS THAT??? I KNEW I LOVED HIM FOR SOME REASON❤❤. MAN, HE IS MISSED!!
Having "Grown-Up" watching Buster Crab as Flash Gordon, circa 1960's, I'm content with even the slightest inconsistencies mentioned. I do enjoy these comments so please keep them coming....
I refuse to acknowledge Discovery as cannon.
Its all a nightmare spock had when he ate too much vulcan taco bell
I love Anson Mount. I'm 40 and straight and even I get lost in his eyes. And that jawline. And "Hit it". Love me some Pike.
I never really understood what the big problem was about Bashir being not "normal", since the whole TNG S2E7 episode (Unnatural Selection) was about Enhanced DNA developments and nobody had a problem with it than.
I love the outstanding show
I wish you had mentioned the Metrons, Trelaine and the Q. I think it should have been added maybe a bonus
If memory serves, no new Constitution model was needed for "The Tholian Web". The Defiant was depicted using the Enterprise. Only in TOS Remastered you actually see the Defiant as a new ship, complete with name and registry number.