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Xbox ! Especially if the rumors about an open system to other stores are confirmed, with not only Xbox games but also Steam and PlayStation games! And don't forget that Xbox has a more active community than PlayStation, with a higher volume of MAUs. Moreover, PlayStation's image is deteriorating more and more, just look at their pricing policy over the years, the absurd price of the PS5 Pro, the prices of accessories, the price of remasters, the abandonment of the PSVR2, the PS5 Pro scam, etc. They have pushed the hardware angle too far, to the detriment of the games. And Xbox also has the advantage of Game Pass, backward compatibility, Play Anywhere, the number of first-party games, and even the number of exclusives (yes, do the math). Moreover, the sales of the PS5 console do not bode well for the rest, just look at the poor sales of the PSVR2 or the PS Portal, the poor sales of the PS5 Pro, etc. The purchase of the home console is almost automatic for many casual gamers who only play Fortnite, FIFA, Call of Duty but buy nothing else and do not buy other hardware either. Given the support for the PSP and PS Vita, for the well-being of the players, they should avoid scamming them again, just like the abandonment of the PS VR 2. It seems that some people still do not understand PlayStation's policy!
If xbox handheld is going to include xbox, epic and steam launchers on the handheld they would be the clear winner. Playstation is not going to allow third party game apps
@@LyvGamer exactly my thoughts. Pretty sure they will use the series os and GOG will be also available. Like windows without the huge size and agility of desktop windows. ☮️
I don't think playing PC games on a handheld is a good idea. I only see Steam working through the cloud somehow. PC games need way too much power to run properly. The 4080 and 4090 already struggled as it is, the dame way the steam deck also struggles. Unless you don't care about playing steam games at 720p
Do you think that product is going to sell a significant number of units? How many? What will that do for the trajectory of Xbox's business? I do not think it would sell a significant number of units, and I don't think it would change the trajectory of the Xbox business, which is basically making a bee-line, currently, for becoming a third party.
Just remember folks its not a sports competition with athletes/teams competing to win medals or trophies. As long as you enjoy the games you play no matter what system/systems you play them on, that's all that should matter.
Yeah, but I wish Xbox would compete, and I wish Xbox fans would stop defending the direction Xbox is taking. They just shoot themselves in the foot time after time
It’s a nice sentiment, but it kinda misses why people get so tied up in their platforms. If every game was like Fortnite or Roblox where you can play your favorite game on any platform and all your progress and content carries over, sure! But those kinds of games are the exception not the rule. And until game license purchases mean you can play them anywhere, on any platform, the platform loyalty will continue.
@@juhakauppi5894 but underpowered and in a closed eco system. A flop in the making. Therefore I'm pretty sure Fony won't release a handheld. Even they know it won't be successful. Xbox will release a handheld imo. ☮️
🤡s like you know very little about gaming apparently. Nintendo is the most underpowered and closed ecosystem platform with the Switch and is destroying it!! All you need is to know and cater to your customer base and make games that they’ll play!! Xbox might as well just become an app already with their “this is an Xbox ad”!!! They wanna be all inclusive that this handheld is possibly their last chance from becoming a 3rd party publisher only
Xbox do because of the Series S. The Series S was the generational transition for Xbox to release a handheld and begin optimisations for scaled down hardware. 2026 Xbox Super Series X and Series S handheld.
@@StoicPhilosophyyyy Never seen anyone try and claim being behind the competition in getting to the market is a good thing but erm, yeah. You do you. I feel if Xbox and Playstation were swapped in this situation you certainly wouldn't be giving Xbox props for being a year behind 😂 Keep that same energy guy.
@@eingoluq They can use 2nm nodes and udna in 2027. It could be possible to reach PS5 performance in a handheld bu then. This is just a guess but Sony is likely behind Microsoft in its development process.
It's not a matter of should be based on the track record but more so what direction the industry is heading into. Nintendo took the hybrid leap and has paid off dividend. Now as much as PSP track record it was amazing VITA was poor and I 100% agree there.
My thoughts. Fony will act like Nintendo having a closed eco system without any ip backing this strategy. After a year they will abandon their handheld bc it flopped. ☮️
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 Fony lol so clearly bias towards Nintendo no matter what eh. Look I love Nintendo games just like everyone else, but their track record with backwards compatibility on handhelds have never been great until recently it's supposedly gonna be backwards compatible. Let's not sugar coat Nintendo's ineptitude when locking our games and purchases behind legacy hardware. The point he made was about the track record, I'm not gonna say Nintendo needs to stop unless they bring everything universally. None of these companies are pro-consumer and it is what it is. But competition is good for the market and I welcome all 4 to go at it.
@@MarcLanteigne-yg8syits funny the Vita wasn't considered a success yet its sold 4x the amount of the Steamdeck, PSP dominated Steamdeck though at 20x the amount of units sold.
Sony abandons things too quickly, I won’t be buying another handheld from them. Since I’m already an Xbox owner I would be interested in an Xbox handheld. But it’s going to be a hard sell for people not in the eco system already. Unless they partner with valve.
@@TheMeanJoeGreenthe Vita is one of my all time favorite systems. I still have mine with the Persona 4 golden skin on it. They abandoned it after 2 years lmao.
Obviously Microsoft does since they have an operating system that plays absolutely everything on earth, they just need a custom version of it designed for handhelds but keep it's open features. What's Sony got Linux? Orbis?.
@craigsampson3386 Then it won't be competitive, not against Asus & Lenovo etc where users can play absolutely everything. Microsoft own Windows if they don't utilise that operating system openly & more efficiently for handheld then they can pretty much forget it.
@@F1BERFRENZY well yeah basically. Last time Microsoft had a great OS on any device that was universally liked was Windows XP, that was a long time ago.
@@craigsampson3386 They could customise XP to work with a handheld hell they could even use Windows 7 & completely revamp that OS for gamers in the handheld market. They need to do something more than a closed platform to compete if they don't it fear the competition will rip them apart.
@@craigsampson3386No, it’s going to run pc games. Phill already said so. It’s not going to be locked to just Xbox but instead be more like a steam deck or Rog. Sony can’t compete with that at all
PSP sold 80 million, the Series consoles are projected to sell about 40 million. The idea that MS can compete with Sony in hardware sailed away with Don Mattrick.
Here's the question though...GamePass has 34M subscribers...how many of them actually have an Xbox system such as Series X and Xbox One? How many have the app on their TV, PC, or mobile device, with NO system. On mobile, controller isn't mandatory, touchscreen controls appear. What is the TRUE MS userbase, when you add those system-less Gamepass subs on to Series X's current 30M? Say about one-third of the gamepass subscribers are without the systems. Thats about 11M or so, bringing MS base up to 41M. 50% brings it to 47M. I think it's very foolishness to go strictly on hardware numbers, to determine MS's marketshare, in this new app/streaming age.
@@PathOfRage Your 34 million number is correct. However they had 37 million subscribers in 2022. 34 million is the new game pass, which includes both traditional game pass and "game pass core" which is just rebranded Xbox Live Gold. In 2022 they had 25 million game pass subs plus 11.7 million Xbox Gold subs, or 37 million. So not only is game pass no longer growing, it's shrinking significantly.
@@mikejenkins1270 so it should gamepass was always anti consumer trash, an attempt to kill off used games sales and turned in to a way to manipulate they players into paying for stuff they normally wouldn't give the time of day too
@weplayvrgames digital games are an industry attempt to kill used games sales and Valve popularized them like 15 years before Gamepass existed. Gamepass is just a digital rental service.
Nintendo will always dominate the handheld market. Sony and Microsoft will not see the same success because their I.P's do not have the same impact, neither one own Pokémon, which makes more money than Call of Duty because Pokémon isn't just games, it's more ingrained into pop culture than Call of duty ever will be.
@@jugulator95 jfc quit with the whatbout-ism and console wars bullshit. It gets so fucking tiring. It is possible to make a comment about one company without it being an endorsement of a different company. Besides, MS has never made a handheld console which is specifically what this video is about. Meanwhile Sony has made literally every handheld they've produced worse, and more expensive, for their customers through pure greed. Requiring MemorySticks (which were more expensive than similarly sized SD cards) on the PSP, the MASSIVELY overpriced Vita memory cards when micro sd was long considered the standard and pretty inexpensive, and now the proprietary wireless protocol on the Portal instead of using bluetooth so you have to buy their specific headphones/buds if you want wireless audio. I assume they'll stick to that last one on whatever new handheld they come out with too. I will at least give them a small pass on the PSP because the dominance of the sd card wasn't 100% solidified at the time. And I own ALL of these products by the way. As well as a PSVR2 and Steam Deck and ROG Ally and Switch original an OLED and Xbox, etc because I'm not a fanboy and I just buy cool shit and play games.
@rsawyer757 You called out Sony specifically when MS also does this. Every 360 model had a proprietary hard drive. And the Series consoles have proprietary ssds. Meanwhile, with the ps3,ps4, and ps5, Sony lets you use 3rd party storage options. I doubt they would go back to proprietary options in the future. They haven't done it in 13 years. Meanwhile, Xbox is currently doing it.
@@jugulator95 Okay, let me try again... 1. This conversation is about handhelds, which MS has never produced. 2. I can make a negative comment about one company without it being an endorsement of another company. 3. I never said anything about what MS does, has done, or will do. I didn't mention MS anywhere. Everything you are saying is true and also has absolutely nothing to do with my comment or the topic at hand. You are playing console wars, I am not. Just the fact that you felt the need to call out MS because I called out Sony demonstrates this pretty clearly. edit: 4. My original comment didn't specifically call out storage even though that's what you're completely focused on. Please see my previous comment regarding the proprietary wireless audio protocol on the Portal which I would think is likely to carry over to whatever new handheld they release. If not, Great! I will likely buy it regardless just like I did the Portal.
@@jugulator95Did you forget that $ony _started_ that whole trend on expensive products and services? Are you really going to pretend charging to make/upgrade physical copies to digital, (whatever the exact scenario was) hiking up Play$tation+ tiers prices, charging extra for Slim vertical stand vs including it, etc, didn't happen? This has nothing to do with the expansion cards. Expansion upgrades have always been expensive on launch.. What's weird about it?
Playstation 100% they've already had experience and they have the larger digital games library that people already own on Playstation since PS4 onwards, hence why Phil said they've lost the most important gen to lose, plus PS5 dominating Xbox Series S/X consoles now on this gen too, its a no brainer a Playstation handheld that can take your pre existing games on the go would have the better chance of success. Also the storage is likely to be kept pro consumer universal M.2 SSD on the Playstation handheld the same as PS5 consoles for compatibility, Xbox has been using expensive proprietary storage on Series X which doesn't bode well for their handheld either.
I think there is room for both a Handheld for sony and Microsoft I think thay would sell very well if thay make it more like a handheld ps5 and xbox series
If steam is streaming playstation games on the go Sony will block all exclusives heading to other platforms and they'll go down the route of Nintendo. Especially if hardware sales drop. What people are failing to understand is that competition is healthy for the consumer.
This is want I'm trying to tell Destin 😂...Sony didn't get this 67% share of the high end graphics home console market (Xbox 33%, Nintendo 0.00%) by having its IP available somewhere else. Heck the ability to purchase ANY game anywhere else 😂! Sony hoards third party exclusives! PC is as far of a risk they'll throw they'll take, in keeping the quasi monopoly. Other than an arcade cabinet in Dave & Busters or AMC Theaters 😂
the current xbox series consoles are selling less than xbox one even with the cheap series s+cod on game pass. i dont see a future where the next xbox hardware will sell well. the majority of consumers just dont want xbox hardware
@@sergeesteves an Xbox handheld _is_ Xbox but on a handheld, the consumer base of Xbox users is small, the console market has bearly grown yet Xbox has shrunk and Playstation has grown larger throughout the years therefore Playstation has the better chance of success with more users and users who are tied into the Playstation ecosystem with their digital libraries.
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 When it comes to a portable console no, mobile audiences and we folk on PC - which is where Blizzard has their user-base - don't matter. Unless they manage to break the boundaries among the three with some sort of open XB-Windows platform of the sort, but that's a huge "if", and as long thar's not confirmed, it's obviously Playstation. Sony absolutely has the bigger consumer base second only to Nintendo. That's not even debatable.
Well unless they both revive their legacy IP's they can't compete with Nintendo, and if they just make glorified launcher machines instead of a handheld pc they can't compete with Valve. Seems like an unnecessary expansion over scraps.
I think there's potential I just don't trust either competitor to get it right. One of the biggest issues Is they are going to have to be digital or they are going to have to have a new medium because I doubt they can do discs in a handheld well. They also would have a reduced power gap.
I don’t think the Xbox handheld is ever coming out and I don’t think the PlayStation handheld is coming out either. MS has to invest too much to make a portable version of Windows/Xbox OS and they don’t want to put anymore money into a hardware ecosystem that’s already failing. Similarly, I can’t see Sony actually releasing a handheld after the failure of Vita unless they get into some broad strategic alliance with Apple where they can integrate the PlayStation OS with MacOS and use Apple’s scale in hardware to reduce their costs. Sony is apparently in regular communication with Apple and Apple is going to lose a ton of money not exclusively selling microtransactions for their apps in their store so they may be looking for a partner to improve their profile in gaming and movie/series streaming. Sony and Apple could team up.
@@heroicgangster9981 I don't think there is any "aswell". It will just be a basic handheld that plays your Xbox library of games on the go, nothing more.
@@craigsampson3386 then it would most likely not sell. why get an inferior microsoft os gaming experience? when you can just have a pc handheld that can mod fallout games fully compared to an xbox system?
34:10 I want shorter games, more DmC, Ninja Gaiden, Hack and Slash games. A new wave of RTS games in the vein of WC, SC, C&C, Lemmings, etc. Pretty much every game I have played this year have been 60 - 120 hour experiences... I miss games that I can complete in a weekend or two.
Gven the series consoles are selling even less than the Xbox one, i cant see any iteration of hardware that doesnt see those sales fall even futher. They would also be releasing into a more competitive market with established consoles and doubtless an updated Steam Deck upon release.
@olegulanovskiy1792 Do you know how many people use steam Vs Gamepass or the Microsoft store. The point is Steam is established and if Xbox think they will pull people away from a library they built on steam when they couldn't sort it with Playstation.... Well... It's not happening. They will have an even smaller install base than they have now.
Sony will drop support for their portable console like a week after it comes out, and Microsoft will still release all of their games on competing hardware for some baffling reason.
I loved the Vita and would love for Sony to launch another potable console. Unfortunately, their messaging says a lot. As soon as they said "it may not come to market," it is clear they had no intention of even mentioning it until Miscrosoft said something. Temper your expectations... Sony is telling everyone that atm, it's not a thing. I sure hope I am wrong.
@@craigsampson3386 flopped in Europe where im from. Never wanted a psp. And we speak about several iterations of the psp which accomplished this number. And you should compare games sold to the DS. Console sales are not making money even in the year 2000. ☮️
Xbox Doing Handheld Because Microsoft doesn't want lost "Gaming Awareness" on Windows side. Remember Steam Deck can capable gaming on Linux + even better FPS/AVERAGE than Windows
"Entering"..... Are we really going to pretend Play$tation Portable as $ony's entry into the handhrld market and Vita don't exist? Portal now already plays Play$tation 5 games. Too little, too late for them to make another to do the same.
The minute Microsoft put Steam (Along with game pass) on a handheld or home console then it's over for Sony. Steam is an overriding factor in this. If Microsoft can get the permissions etc etc etc then Boom! Microsoft/X box will win the handheld or future home console market.
My only concern with the Xbox handheld, is that it will literally compete with other big laptop makers (Asus, Legion) making their own handheld. I see it as another Surface, which unfortunately was made to compete against both laptops and the Apple iPad (translation: bad idea).
"Do you think that writing is them doing exactly what they want?" I believe that the stuff with Taash was writing by one or a few writers who were writing EXACTLY what they wanted to write, and it was from their weirdo hearts. And anyone who was normal and not trapped in one way of thinking either was afraid to criticize them, and said "oh great job"(especially if they were straight people, or guys, or the "worst of the worst" straight White guys) or they did say something and they were completely shut down, and toxic positivity took over.
If Microsoft just accepted that it's a "fixed spec PC" and combines the 2 then they would have great potential. Until that point, they are missung out on great potential. They could instantly jump into the race with the PC spec gaming portables that already out.
BG3 isn't a classic AAA game. It started with the community in Early Access, got tested by it, vetted by it then released. This is NOT how a AAA dev works 99% of the time.
The Gamepass in handheld partnered with ability play Xbox Library and sideload of GOG, Steam or Epic. It is gonna be an easy buy for me day 1 for Xbox. Or maybe if Sony gets more open and let Steam and Epic sideload as well.
It’s Microsoft. Sony has tried to enter this space twice already and wasn’t committed enough to continue after losing to Nintendo. Heck, they entered the VR market with less daunting competition and ditched support at the first signs of failing also. Microsoft can enter this space with something new and fresh…as well as utilizing this handheld as their ‘inexpensive’ console sku moving forward if it has docking capabilities like the Switch. A flagship console plus this.
Neither. As long as they're not their own independent console that can connect to the tv like the switch does they will not be able to compete. They will be seen as accesories like the ps portal.
Yep this is going to be thier biggest problem. I don't see them being able to keep up with development. Even Nintendo said combining its divisions has helped it massively. These moves are going to split their development while Nintendo consolidated theirs.
I'm going to be honest here, the success of these two handhelds hinges on how much 3rd party support the Switch 2 gets before their release. Especially considering it's going to have a few years head start.
if the xbox handheld doesn't allow you to play both Windows and real Xbox games (xbox og, 360, one, series, etc). Then they can forget, I might as well buy an ROG Ally. I want my fully moddable fallout games
Microsoft library 📚 will be crazy with all them studios, I am running black ops 6 on my rog ally natively through gamepass Microsoft handheld will be amazing the surface team should develop it 😊🎉
It's an interesting question, Skill Up on the FPS podcast reckons it will be easier for PS but I disagree, I can play my playstation games in the main on Steam Deck and if Microsoft offers a windows handheld that gives me steam and my Xbox catalogue that'll get my attention. I can't see PS offering more than the PS storefront so will appeal to a subset of their base in main...
11:40 only 30% ? You have to try hard to collect a bunch of modern AAA with no fsr. I can run diablo 4 on mine with no fsr. It's a bit potato on cutscene graphics but I have to believe what he means by "they won't run" is that they don't run 60 fps... 😅
low expectation with the xbox handheld i still remember how quick they gave up with the windows phone that was a good phone and they were lazy and didnt do anthing to promote it i see the same thing happening again
I don’t see a reason to own the same handheld as a console if i own a ps home console i will definitely go for the xbox handheld as my second platform to enjoy the benefits of both ecosystems and games plus xbox offers gamepass which is great
Destin the first thing you have to do when you ask if someone will be successful is define success. You have to define success in the eyes of Xbox and PlayStation. Success looks very differently for both of them. Failure looks the same. Xbox needs this far more than Sony does. They have lost the console war they can never catch up in that particular category so they need to do something different. They need to put their games everywhere. This is a chance for them to say look we are everywhere. A flop does them more harm than a flop would do PlayStation. Just to consider if the PlayStation handheld fails people would still say I can still play my PlayStation. If an Xbox handheld fails, Microsoft has to find another way to get their games in the hands of more people. Notice how success can be very different for each company. Sony will have the hardest time at this. Not because it won’t sell well for them it will but then what? People will buy this, but what will set it apart from your main platform of choice. Sony would have to do something they don’t like doing in order to really be successful . They would have to allow people access to other markets. Steam, and the epic games store come to mind. Well wait a minute what if I don’t wanna buy the Sony game on the PlayStation store I wanna buy it on another outlet. Sony has to give you that alternative or face he criticism of their platform. But you have to remember once you open the floodgates, they cannot be closed. Once you have a handheld out there that has access to steam people are going to expect day one PlayStation on steam. They would literally say wait a minute you are forcing me into your market when I brought a device that should be capable of reaching every market. Here’s the funny thing since you have to make a device capable of reaching every market that means it would be a Sony device capable of playing Microsoft games via steam so either way your competition gets a play and guess what there are a lot of Sony fans that have not touched Xbox games in a long time You can’t say the same thing for people who own an Xbox.
We need a Stramdeck like MICROSOFT WINDOWS Handheld to succeed and for a PlayStation handheld not to succeed. - MS Windows handheld will move gaming forward, a PlayStation handheld will hold gaming back! We need a GAMING SPECIFIC windows OS that is designed SPECIFICALLY for gaming/handhelds … this way the windows based handheld PCs can function as efficiently as Steam Decks console like experience! Not the current “enthusiast” like experience on the handheld PCs we have now! PlayStation missed the boat! There’s nothing they can offer me on a handheld that won’t already be on my steam deck ! PlayStation games included!
As a gamer in my 40’s, I have really grown to love the Xbox ease of use and I have no doubt that they will continue that with the new handheld device. Chances are they will be able to have all game libraries available on that device (at least better chances than the competition, IMO) then I believe it will do well. If things change and PlayStation is the one that brings everything together in one device, then I will check that one out. I think newer gamers are waaaay too worried about where other people play. Play where your friends and you can play together. Don’t worry what billion/trillion dollar company I decide to throw my money at.
I'm not sure why so many commentators think the switch 2 will be any good. There is no guarantee. Historically Nintendo have been known to have console failures after a big console hit. Also the switch may have been a big seller but how many of those consoles are used regularly or are they just gathering dut in a drawer. My feeling is that the Switch 2 will disappoint.
I don't think either of the handhelds from Sony or Microsoft would be "successful". The main reason why Nintendo is successful in this area is because of the unique exclusive games and the cheap price. With today's gaming industry, I can't see Sony or Microsoft making anything exclusive to their handhelds, giving people less reason to purchase them.
Microsoft literally force you to subscribe to their service or you cannot use it at all and that's bs so I don't have game pass and never will until they make game pass more accessible (without entering in a credit card).
Overall Sony is just going to have a handheld supporting just the PS5 and PS4 ONLY in 3 years. In 3 years Xbox will have the Next Xbox, Xbox Series X, Xbox One, Xbox 360, and original Xbox all with GamePass and might even have Steam support as well. I know which one I would choose.
Switch has surround audio 😂?! I was playing Metal Slug Tactics, and when you kill a bad guy, you get a "OH, OH, OH, OH..." 3D surround echo audio effect 😂 The soundtrack is great too, maybe the developer is just a great sound producer 😂
Steamdeck has only sold 3 maybe 4 million tops? The Vita has beaten that by 4x lol and the PSP demolished it by 20x the sales. It's not a matter of _if_ it will beat Steamdeck sales, it's just a matter of when.
Short answer is no, long answer is hell no lol for one thing neither can beat Nintendo in the handheld space hell even the steam deck and the other handhelds are microscopic in sales compared to the Switch.
The rumor that the xbox handheld possibly a windows machine is very worrying. That is NOT what we need. Those already exist. I want NO launchers on my handheld.
This is the biggest weakness of the other hardware makers. Nintendo is hybrid but these consoles aren't like that. I doubt they are going to have you sticking in disc's so they have a large problem.
@@barcster2003 nahh most Playstation gamers libraries are already digital now so not really, also the PS+ Extra/Deluxe subscribers who have game catalogue and even the base model tier gives you free games to claim every month as long as you're still actively subscribed which is majority of gamers, just from that alone I've got like 300 - 400 games from base tier alone. By the end of the PS4 gen gamers libraries were around 50/50 physical and digital hence why Phil Spencer said they lost the most important generation to lose because gamers started making their digital collection mostly in Playstation's ecosystem, not Xbox. Also hence why Sony even made an optional digital model PS5 at launch in 2020. In 2022 only 21% new game sales were physical, would be even less now in 2024. Sony could probably get away with an all digital handheld, although it would be nice and possible if they also supported the remaining few who still have physical collections by creating a physical to digital media conversion program, there's a few ways they could make that happen if they wanted to.
Biggest advantage Xbox can have that the others cannot is windows unless they invest in android partnership. Some might say that is windows is not a good thing. But if they can integrate it well as in primary bootup being a game launcher with a menu to access windows from within then it has more uses than just a game handheld. The X could have a phone service built in an bring windows 12 and windows 12 mobile to close integration with gaming being the focus. Then is it not a secondary buy like switch but a bento box. ruclips.net/video/ditqm-Im-Yk/видео.htmlsi=XJBV4jL9Ph3oGUUu Windows 12 mock up ruclips.net/video/XhwFp6lMOcQ/видео.htmlsi=QeRP-MWIoiD6EGQd Windows 12 Mobile mock up What is an xbox? Everything can be an xbox and an Xbox can have everything inside. X marks the spot lol.
Well tencent that's making a horizon game well there's no horizon game on Xbox if this comes to Xbox will have a horizon game I honestly would like to play it if they don't get sued
If Xbox handheld players all my games and also can play steam I get it just got Samsung tv and it plays xcloud great so I not sure I getting next home console
I'm definitely curious on how MS will differentiate themselves in the portable space. I feel like they will have more of an advantage over PS in several different ways..
Xbox Portable + Gamepass? Yeah, there's no contest. But I am curious how Playstation will tackle the handheld scene, though I'm a little pessimistic as well, considering how the Vita was treated.
They will make it a Xcloud + GamePass machine. If rumours are to be believed they might even have a hybrid of cloud plus native. Something I don’t think Sony could do…
@@superhero3683they will have a Windows handheld without the huge size and agility of desktop windows. The series os. Open to steam /epic /gog. They have everything to be successful and even compete with big N. Nintendo knows this and they chose to be friends with Microsoft. Which is smart in the long run. ☮️
An advantage? 😂As in how badly they already get outsold in consoles? 🤣😂📊. They will be dead last place again under Sony and Nintendo please don’t kid yourself.
and lol, nobody is pushing against consumers because they like one console more than the other, ridiculous suggestion. but thinking microsoft getting stuff for free is good for consumers is stupid. consumers dont care if microsoft or google is earning money, if you can expect google to be selfless you can expect microsoft also to be selfless, but suprise, both want to earn money with their eco systems and now a judge should decide who of both doesnt earn his profits because microsoft wants to implement a service that is too expensive for the regular customer?
How about you discuss actual news instead of pandering to fanboys Guys he's been in blissful ignorance of the avowed situation afraid to upset any of you with his opinions YOU ARE BEING PANDERED TOO STOP BEING SO GULLIBLE
Neither has a good chance at success. We have the deck and switch. What use would these have? Everyone who wants a PS5 will have one by the time this comes out, so again, who is going to pay 600-700 bucks so they can play PS5 on a small screen? Vita and PSP already failed. The idea of an Xbox handheld is preposterous. If its a steam deck competitor, well the steam deck already exists. They cant even sell regular xboxs why would anyone want a handheld xbox? As for having steam and other storefronts on it, as previously mentioned, the deck already exists.
PSP was somewhat of a success at 80M...it just got stomped out by Nintendo DS 😂(150M). Then it carried over to "round 2", where VITA got annihilated by 3DS. That was pretty much all she wrote for Sony's handheld charge. In fact, Sony makes it's competitors..."difficult to develop for" for third parties 😂? Nintendo made VITA difficult to develop for 😂...VITA got zero third party support, did less than 20M, and was relegated to a cult anime/import handheld. But yeah, I'd welcome an Xbox powerful high end handheld. I got down time at my job 😂...where I'm playing Metal Slug Tactics, Advance Wars 1+2, Mortal Kombat 1, etc on Switch 😂! I'm so used to Switch now, I wouldn't abandoned it, I like the Metroid series 😂...they get Japanese imports too. I would add the Xbox for more complex strategy games and triple A. I got Xcom 2, Ancestors Legacy, NorthGard, Startopia on Switch...they dont really work on Switch 🙂...framerates, TEENY TINY text...they'd be much better on a more powerful handheld. Advance War 1+2 and Metal Slug Tactics, PERFECT for Switch 😂! Cartoony graphics. The advanced graphics are gonna come from Nintendo themselves, Metroid Prime Remastered is beautiful. But third party triple A? I'd go with an Xbox handheld. Fatal Fury retro, okay Switch 😂
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Xbox ! Especially if the rumors about an open system to other stores are confirmed, with not only Xbox games but also Steam and PlayStation games! And don't forget that Xbox has a more active community than PlayStation, with a higher volume of MAUs. Moreover, PlayStation's image is deteriorating more and more, just look at their pricing policy over the years, the absurd price of the PS5 Pro, the prices of accessories, the price of remasters, the abandonment of the PSVR2, the PS5 Pro scam, etc. They have pushed the hardware angle too far, to the detriment of the games.
And Xbox also has the advantage of Game Pass, backward compatibility, Play Anywhere, the number of first-party games, and even the number of exclusives (yes, do the math).
Moreover, the sales of the PS5 console do not bode well for the rest, just look at the poor sales of the PSVR2 or the PS Portal, the poor sales of the PS5 Pro, etc. The purchase of the home console is almost automatic for many casual gamers who only play Fortnite, FIFA, Call of Duty but buy nothing else and do not buy other hardware either. Given the support for the PSP and PS Vita, for the well-being of the players, they should avoid scamming them again, just like the abandonment of the PS VR 2. It seems that some people still do not understand PlayStation's policy!
Not the one who never made a handheld. Not the one with hardware sales in the gutter. *Definitely* not that one.
im expecting a repeat of the windows phone disaster
Sony will have success if they don't give up on it too early.
Nintendo 8 handheld PlayStation 4 pc 4 Xbox 0 handhelds
If xbox handheld is going to include xbox, epic and steam launchers on the handheld they would be the clear winner. Playstation is not going to allow third party game apps
Yea that is tru no way Sony allows tht lmao
@@LyvGamer exactly my thoughts. Pretty sure they will use the series os and GOG will be also available. Like windows without the huge size and agility of desktop windows. ☮️
also xbox will let u emulate on that hand held i bet !!
I don't think playing PC games on a handheld is a good idea. I only see Steam working through the cloud somehow. PC games need way too much power to run properly. The 4080 and 4090 already struggled as it is, the dame way the steam deck also struggles. Unless you don't care about playing steam games at 720p
Do you think that product is going to sell a significant number of units? How many? What will that do for the trajectory of Xbox's business? I do not think it would sell a significant number of units, and I don't think it would change the trajectory of the Xbox business, which is basically making a bee-line, currently, for becoming a third party.
Just remember folks its not a sports competition with athletes/teams competing to win medals or trophies. As long as you enjoy the games you play no matter what system/systems you play them on, that's all that should matter.
100% correct Donald!
Yeah, but I wish Xbox would compete, and I wish Xbox fans would stop defending the direction Xbox is taking.
They just shoot themselves in the foot time after time
@@TheMeanJoeGreenhow
@@TheMeanJoeGreen found the pony. ☮️
It’s a nice sentiment, but it kinda misses why people get so tied up in their platforms.
If every game was like Fortnite or Roblox where you can play your favorite game on any platform and all your progress and content carries over, sure! But those kinds of games are the exception not the rule. And until game license purchases mean you can play them anywhere, on any platform, the platform loyalty will continue.
Playstation handheld will be super expensive.
@@juhakauppi5894 but underpowered and in a closed eco system. A flop in the making. Therefore I'm pretty sure Fony won't release a handheld. Even they know it won't be successful. Xbox will release a handheld imo. ☮️
🤡s like you know very little about gaming apparently. Nintendo is the most underpowered and closed ecosystem platform with the Switch and is destroying it!! All you need is to know and cater to your customer base and make games that they’ll play!! Xbox might as well just become an app already with their “this is an Xbox ad”!!! They wanna be all inclusive that this handheld is possibly their last chance from becoming a 3rd party publisher only
@@ninetendopesaitama2107share some copium for the rest of us lil bro
800$ minimum
Xbox do because of the Series S. The Series S was the generational transition for Xbox to release a handheld and begin optimisations for scaled down hardware. 2026 Xbox Super Series X and Series S handheld.
Yeah but PlayStation is likely release handheld in 2027 . So they have 1 more year to catch up to ps5 performance.
@@StoicPhilosophyyyy that makes no sense. lol
@@StoicPhilosophyyyy Never seen anyone try and claim being behind the competition in getting to the market is a good thing but erm, yeah. You do you. I feel if Xbox and Playstation were swapped in this situation you certainly wouldn't be giving Xbox props for being a year behind 😂
Keep that same energy guy.
@@eingoluq They can use 2nm nodes and udna in 2027. It could be possible to reach PS5 performance in a handheld bu then. This is just a guess but Sony is likely behind Microsoft in its development process.
@@StoicPhilosophyyyy . I've never seen someone cope harder.
The way Sony supported the PSP and Vita I don't think they should join back in that fray
It's not a matter of should be based on the track record but more so what direction the industry is heading into. Nintendo took the hybrid leap and has paid off dividend. Now as much as PSP track record it was amazing VITA was poor and I 100% agree there.
My thoughts. Fony will act like Nintendo having a closed eco system without any ip backing this strategy. After a year they will abandon their handheld bc it flopped. ☮️
Times are changing, you see that the support portal and even made it better.
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 Fony lol so clearly bias towards Nintendo no matter what eh. Look I love Nintendo games just like everyone else, but their track record with backwards compatibility on handhelds have never been great until recently it's supposedly gonna be backwards compatible. Let's not sugar coat Nintendo's ineptitude when locking our games and purchases behind legacy hardware. The point he made was about the track record, I'm not gonna say Nintendo needs to stop unless they bring everything universally. None of these companies are pro-consumer and it is what it is. But competition is good for the market and I welcome all 4 to go at it.
@@MarcLanteigne-yg8syits funny the Vita wasn't considered a success yet its sold 4x the amount of the Steamdeck, PSP dominated Steamdeck though at 20x the amount of units sold.
$399 is a pipe dream
Maybe not for xbox, but for sony, yea totally. Don't forget sony will charge you a fee for a portable version of each game
@Justanobody8472
Ya.
That's made up.
Sony abandons things too quickly, I won’t be buying another handheld from them. Since I’m already an Xbox owner I would be interested in an Xbox handheld. But it’s going to be a hard sell for people not in the eco system already. Unless they partner with valve.
The vita was so ahead of its time and they just abandoned it so fast.
An OLED screen back then was unheard of
OG PSP was my last piece of Sony hardware. Never again. Looking forward to an XBOX handheld
@@TheMeanJoeGreenthe Vita is one of my all time favorite systems. I still have mine with the Persona 4 golden skin on it. They abandoned it after 2 years lmao.
@@joshbradley5601PSP was great, the proprietary memory cards and batteries sucked though. That’s the first system I ever hacked.
It’s going to be a portable ps5, meaning it’ll have as much support as the console
He kept saying "Memory" when I think he meant "Storage."
Obviously Microsoft does since they have an operating system that plays absolutely everything on earth, they just need a custom version of it designed for handhelds but keep it's open features. What's Sony got Linux? Orbis?.
It's an Xbox handheld though not a Windows handheld that they're making, it will just play Xbox games until proven otherwise.
@craigsampson3386 Then it won't be competitive, not against Asus & Lenovo etc where users can play absolutely everything. Microsoft own Windows if they don't utilise that operating system openly & more efficiently for handheld then they can pretty much forget it.
@@F1BERFRENZY well yeah basically. Last time Microsoft had a great OS on any device that was universally liked was Windows XP, that was a long time ago.
@@craigsampson3386 They could customise XP to work with a handheld hell they could even use Windows 7 & completely revamp that OS for gamers in the handheld market. They need to do something more than a closed platform to compete if they don't it fear the competition will rip them apart.
@@craigsampson3386No, it’s going to run pc games. Phill already said so. It’s not going to be locked to just Xbox but instead be more like a steam deck or Rog. Sony can’t compete with that at all
PSP sold 80 million, the Series consoles are projected to sell about 40 million. The idea that MS can compete with Sony in hardware sailed away with Don Mattrick.
Here's the question though...GamePass has 34M subscribers...how many of them actually have an Xbox system such as Series X and Xbox One?
How many have the app on their TV, PC, or mobile device, with NO system. On mobile, controller isn't mandatory, touchscreen controls appear.
What is the TRUE MS userbase, when you add those system-less Gamepass subs on to Series X's current 30M?
Say about one-third of the gamepass subscribers are without the systems. Thats about 11M or so, bringing MS base up to 41M. 50% brings it to 47M.
I think it's very foolishness to go strictly on hardware numbers, to determine MS's marketshare, in this new app/streaming age.
@@PathOfRage Your 34 million number is correct. However they had 37 million subscribers in 2022. 34 million is the new game pass, which includes both traditional game pass and "game pass core" which is just rebranded Xbox Live Gold. In 2022 they had 25 million game pass subs plus 11.7 million Xbox Gold subs, or 37 million. So not only is game pass no longer growing, it's shrinking significantly.
@@mikejenkins1270 so it should gamepass was always anti consumer trash, an attempt to kill off used games sales and turned in to a way to manipulate they players into paying for stuff they normally wouldn't give the time of day too
@@PathOfRage its a handheld device, meaning hardware. If you arent using hardware sales as the defining metric, you are delusional.
@weplayvrgames digital games are an industry attempt to kill used games sales and Valve popularized them like 15 years before Gamepass existed. Gamepass is just a digital rental service.
Nintendo will always dominate the handheld market.
Sony and Microsoft will not see the same success because their I.P's do not have the same impact, neither one own Pokémon, which makes more money than Call of Duty because Pokémon isn't just games, it's more ingrained into pop culture than Call of duty ever will be.
Only time will tell
If there's one thing we can count on, it's that Sony will hamstring their handheld with wildly overpriced proprietary technology of some kind.
It's weird you say this when MS is literally the one doing that this gen with the xbox expansion card
@@jugulator95 jfc quit with the whatbout-ism and console wars bullshit. It gets so fucking tiring. It is possible to make a comment about one company without it being an endorsement of a different company.
Besides, MS has never made a handheld console which is specifically what this video is about. Meanwhile Sony has made literally every handheld they've produced worse, and more expensive, for their customers through pure greed. Requiring MemorySticks (which were more expensive than similarly sized SD cards) on the PSP, the MASSIVELY overpriced Vita memory cards when micro sd was long considered the standard and pretty inexpensive, and now the proprietary wireless protocol on the Portal instead of using bluetooth so you have to buy their specific headphones/buds if you want wireless audio. I assume they'll stick to that last one on whatever new handheld they come out with too. I will at least give them a small pass on the PSP because the dominance of the sd card wasn't 100% solidified at the time.
And I own ALL of these products by the way. As well as a PSVR2 and Steam Deck and ROG Ally and Switch original an OLED and Xbox, etc because I'm not a fanboy and I just buy cool shit and play games.
@rsawyer757 You called out Sony specifically when MS also does this. Every 360 model had a proprietary hard drive. And the Series consoles have proprietary ssds. Meanwhile, with the ps3,ps4, and ps5, Sony lets you use 3rd party storage options. I doubt they would go back to proprietary options in the future. They haven't done it in 13 years. Meanwhile, Xbox is currently doing it.
@@jugulator95 Okay, let me try again...
1. This conversation is about handhelds, which MS has never produced.
2. I can make a negative comment about one company without it being an endorsement of another company.
3. I never said anything about what MS does, has done, or will do. I didn't mention MS anywhere.
Everything you are saying is true and also has absolutely nothing to do with my comment or the topic at hand. You are playing console wars, I am not. Just the fact that you felt the need to call out MS because I called out Sony demonstrates this pretty clearly.
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4. My original comment didn't specifically call out storage even though that's what you're completely focused on. Please see my previous comment regarding the proprietary wireless audio protocol on the Portal which I would think is likely to carry over to whatever new handheld they release. If not, Great! I will likely buy it regardless just like I did the Portal.
@@jugulator95Did you forget that $ony _started_ that whole trend on expensive products and services? Are you really going to pretend charging to make/upgrade physical copies to digital, (whatever the exact scenario was) hiking up Play$tation+ tiers prices, charging extra for Slim vertical stand vs including it, etc, didn't happen? This has nothing to do with the expansion cards. Expansion upgrades have always been expensive on launch.. What's weird about it?
Playstation 100% they've already had experience and they have the larger digital games library that people already own on Playstation since PS4 onwards, hence why Phil said they've lost the most important gen to lose, plus PS5 dominating Xbox Series S/X consoles now on this gen too, its a no brainer a Playstation handheld that can take your pre existing games on the go would have the better chance of success.
Also the storage is likely to be kept pro consumer universal M.2 SSD on the Playstation handheld the same as PS5 consoles for compatibility, Xbox has been using expensive proprietary storage on Series X which doesn't bode well for their handheld either.
I think there is room for both a Handheld for sony and Microsoft I think thay would sell very well if thay make it more like a handheld ps5 and xbox series
If steam is streaming playstation games on the go Sony will block all exclusives heading to other platforms and they'll go down the route of Nintendo. Especially if hardware sales drop.
What people are failing to understand is that competition is healthy for the consumer.
This is want I'm trying to tell Destin 😂...Sony didn't get this 67% share of the high end graphics home console market (Xbox 33%, Nintendo 0.00%) by having its IP available somewhere else.
Heck the ability to purchase ANY game anywhere else 😂! Sony hoards third party exclusives! PC is as far of a risk they'll throw they'll take, in keeping the quasi monopoly. Other than an arcade cabinet in Dave & Busters or AMC Theaters 😂
the current xbox series consoles are selling less than xbox one even with the cheap series s+cod on game pass. i dont see a future where the next xbox hardware will sell well. the majority of consumers just dont want xbox hardware
Who has a better chance? Probably whomever has a bigger consumer base.
So Playstation.
so Xbox ! better MAU, consumer base is not consoles, 2 different things !
@@sergeesteves an Xbox handheld _is_ Xbox but on a handheld, the consumer base of Xbox users is small, the console market has bearly grown yet Xbox has shrunk and Playstation has grown larger throughout the years therefore Playstation has the better chance of success with more users and users who are tied into the Playstation ecosystem with their digital libraries.
@@richied5294 so Microsoft owning King? And Activision Blizzard? You think consumer base means console owner? Lol ☮️
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 When it comes to a portable console no, mobile audiences and we folk on PC - which is where Blizzard has their user-base - don't matter. Unless they manage to break the boundaries among the three with some sort of open XB-Windows platform of the sort, but that's a huge "if", and as long thar's not confirmed, it's obviously Playstation. Sony absolutely has the bigger consumer base second only to Nintendo. That's not even debatable.
I don't think either of these handhelds have a chance unless they come out next generation it's too late
Well unless they both revive their legacy IP's they can't compete with Nintendo, and if they just make glorified launcher machines instead of a handheld pc they can't compete with Valve.
Seems like an unnecessary expansion over scraps.
I think there's potential I just don't trust either competitor to get it right.
One of the biggest issues Is they are going to have to be digital or they are going to have to have a new medium because I doubt they can do discs in a handheld well. They also would have a reduced power gap.
Whichever has the most important thing GAMES
Which ironically think will be these competitors biggest problems or it will simpl be your console library.
I don’t think the Xbox handheld is ever coming out and I don’t think the PlayStation handheld is coming out either.
MS has to invest too much to make a portable version of Windows/Xbox OS and they don’t want to put anymore money into a hardware ecosystem that’s already failing.
Similarly, I can’t see Sony actually releasing a handheld after the failure of Vita unless they get into some broad strategic alliance with Apple where they can integrate the PlayStation OS with MacOS and use Apple’s scale in hardware to reduce their costs.
Sony is apparently in regular communication with Apple and Apple is going to lose a ton of money not exclusively selling microtransactions for their apps in their store so they may be looking for a partner to improve their profile in gaming and movie/series streaming. Sony and Apple could team up.
Xbox ...if they install windows on it it's a game changer...Steam Game Pass etc...PS would have no shot
That's not an Xbox handheld anymore then and those Windows handhelds already exist now and don't sell very well at all.
@@craigsampson3386 then it has to play xbox games as well
@@heroicgangster9981 I don't think there is any "aswell". It will just be a basic handheld that plays your Xbox library of games on the go, nothing more.
@@craigsampson3386 then it would most likely not sell. why get an inferior microsoft os gaming experience? when you can just have a pc handheld that can mod fallout games fully compared to an xbox system?
@heroicgangster9981 yup exactly my point.
Nice debate! Both sides had valuable points
34:10 I want shorter games, more DmC, Ninja Gaiden, Hack and Slash games. A new wave of RTS games in the vein of WC, SC, C&C, Lemmings, etc. Pretty much every game I have played this year have been 60 - 120 hour experiences... I miss games that I can complete in a weekend or two.
Dude it doesn't even matter the switch 2 will outsell and be more successful then both of them combined
The winner is SteamDeck 2. Unfortunately there will never be a 3.
Corporations are blinded by greed? Weird.
Gven the series consoles are selling even less than the Xbox one, i cant see any iteration of hardware that doesnt see those sales fall even futher. They would also be releasing into a more competitive market with established consoles and doubtless an updated Steam Deck upon release.
You know that steam deck sales are 3+ mil. Its nothing. Sony and MS easily beat these numbers, if they will make right moves.
@olegulanovskiy1792 Do you know how many people use steam Vs Gamepass or the Microsoft store. The point is Steam is established and if Xbox think they will pull people away from a library they built on steam when they couldn't sort it with Playstation.... Well... It's not happening. They will have an even smaller install base than they have now.
Sony will drop support for their portable console like a week after it comes out, and Microsoft will still release all of their games on competing hardware for some baffling reason.
I loved the Vita and would love for Sony to launch another potable console. Unfortunately, their messaging says a lot. As soon as they said "it may not come to market," it is clear they had no intention of even mentioning it until Miscrosoft said something. Temper your expectations... Sony is telling everyone that atm, it's not a thing. I sure hope I am wrong.
Its been rumoured before but everybody forgot about it or thought their Portal was the only one Sony was working on when it wasn't.
Every Fony handheld flopped and was abandoned very quick by them. ☮️
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 80+ million PSPs sold and long support over many is a flop to you?
@@craigsampson3386 flopped in Europe where im from. Never wanted a psp. And we speak about several iterations of the psp which accomplished this number. And you should compare games sold to the DS. Console sales are not making money even in the year 2000. ☮️
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 buddy you don't represent the whole of Europe lol that's just your subjective opinion, not a fact.
‘This is an Xbox’ is a beautiful thing. I play of PS and if I’m buying a handheld in the future it has to be Xbox.
I'm definitely going to be buying the Xbox handheld
I may buy both depending on the features
@DestinL okay got you well I hope you enjoy them
Xbox Doing Handheld Because Microsoft doesn't want lost "Gaming Awareness" on Windows side. Remember Steam Deck can capable gaming on Linux + even better FPS/AVERAGE than Windows
"Entering"..... Are we really going to pretend Play$tation Portable as $ony's entry into the handhrld market and Vita don't exist? Portal now already plays Play$tation 5 games. Too little, too late for them to make another to do the same.
Their a little to late Nintendo already has the handheld market dominated.
Xbox as a console business is dead and buried
Neither. I think both of them won't see the light given these are years away. Average gamer won't pay additional 600 dollars to play same games.
I would absolutely play on an Xbox handheld. I have many opportunities to use one.
The minute Microsoft put Steam (Along with game pass) on a handheld or home console then it's over for Sony.
Steam is an overriding factor in this.
If Microsoft can get the permissions etc etc etc then Boom! Microsoft/X box will win the handheld or future home console market.
My only concern with the Xbox handheld, is that it will literally compete with other big laptop makers (Asus, Legion) making their own handheld. I see it as another Surface, which unfortunately was made to compete against both laptops and the Apple iPad (translation: bad idea).
Google still pissed about Stadia
"Do you think that writing is them doing exactly what they want?"
I believe that the stuff with Taash was writing by one or a few writers who were writing EXACTLY what they wanted to write, and it was from their weirdo hearts. And anyone who was normal and not trapped in one way of thinking either was afraid to criticize them, and said "oh great job"(especially if they were straight people, or guys, or the "worst of the worst" straight White guys) or they did say something and they were completely shut down, and toxic positivity took over.
Whatever xbox is releasing needs to be able to run games natively at series s level, and be able to steeam games when you are on wifi.
If Microsoft just accepted that it's a "fixed spec PC" and combines the 2 then they would have great potential. Until that point, they are missung out on great potential. They could instantly jump into the race with the PC spec gaming portables that already out.
If MS make a handheld it has to be able to play games offline or it's DOA. A handheld that can't play games on a plane is just wasted luggage space.
The same can be said about Sony.
Portables are the future
BG3 isn't a classic AAA game. It started with the community in Early Access, got tested by it, vetted by it then released. This is NOT how a AAA dev works 99% of the time.
The Gamepass in handheld partnered with ability play Xbox Library and sideload of GOG, Steam or Epic. It is gonna be an easy buy for me day 1 for Xbox. Or maybe if Sony gets more open and let Steam and Epic sideload as well.
It’s Microsoft. Sony has tried to enter this space twice already and wasn’t committed enough to continue after losing to Nintendo. Heck, they entered the VR market with less daunting competition and ditched support at the first signs of failing also. Microsoft can enter this space with something new and fresh…as well as utilizing this handheld as their ‘inexpensive’ console sku moving forward if it has docking capabilities like the Switch. A flagship console plus this.
Neither. As long as they're not their own independent console that can connect to the tv like the switch does they will not be able to compete. They will be seen as accesories like the ps portal.
Yep this is going to be thier biggest problem. I don't see them being able to keep up with development. Even Nintendo said combining its divisions has helped it massively.
These moves are going to split their development while Nintendo consolidated theirs.
I feel like PS has a better chance since a) are more popular and b) have experience doing it. Hell, they already have a streaming only handheld.
I think xbox should become a pc hybrid it would sell for alot of money
Playstation will steal Xbox mojo and debut their handheld before Xbox. I bet it'll be built better with better features too
I'm going to be honest here, the success of these two handhelds hinges on how much 3rd party support the Switch 2 gets before their release. Especially considering it's going to have a few years head start.
...and that depends on how many are in Sony's back pocket.
@PathOfRage Touché
A powerful handheld console combined with gamepass will be great actually i would take that over ps handheld
I really hope Xbox is going to do that rumoured hybrid console/Steam/Epic device.
In case of handhelds I'm going with Playstation as well.😊👍🏻
Xbox already has a jump on portability. Plus they already have a lower range that'll do great on handhelds: the series s.
if the xbox handheld doesn't allow you to play both Windows and real Xbox games (xbox og, 360, one, series, etc). Then they can forget, I might as well buy an ROG Ally. I want my fully moddable fallout games
Microsoft library 📚 will be crazy with all them studios, I am running black ops 6 on my rog ally natively through gamepass Microsoft handheld will be amazing the surface team should develop it 😊🎉
It's an interesting question, Skill Up on the FPS podcast reckons it will be easier for PS but I disagree, I can play my playstation games in the main on Steam Deck and if Microsoft offers a windows handheld that gives me steam and my Xbox catalogue that'll get my attention. I can't see PS offering more than the PS storefront so will appeal to a subset of their base in main...
It will appeal to more than Xbox and Steam deck owners combined.
11:40 only 30% ? You have to try hard to collect a bunch of modern AAA with no fsr. I can run diablo 4 on mine with no fsr. It's a bit potato on cutscene graphics but I have to believe what he means by "they won't run" is that they don't run 60 fps... 😅
low expectation with the xbox handheld i still remember how quick they gave up with the windows phone that was a good phone and they were lazy and didnt do anthing to promote it i see the same thing happening again
We like Travis! Travis cool!
Nintendo has Physical games so they have better success since its not DRM restricted like Sony & Microsoft
I don’t see a reason to own the same handheld as a console if i own a ps home console i will definitely go for the xbox handheld as my second platform to enjoy the benefits of both ecosystems and games plus xbox offers gamepass which is great
would the XBoy's gamepass include day 1 releases?
imagine developers trying to make games XBoy compatible day 1
Destin the first thing you have to do when you ask if someone will be successful is define success. You have to define success in the eyes of Xbox and PlayStation. Success looks very differently for both of them. Failure looks the same.
Xbox needs this far more than Sony does. They have lost the console war they can never catch up in that particular category so they need to do something different. They need to put their games everywhere. This is a chance for them to say look we are everywhere. A flop does them more harm than a flop would do PlayStation. Just to consider if the PlayStation handheld fails people would still say I can still play my PlayStation. If an Xbox handheld fails, Microsoft has to find another way to get their games in the hands of more people. Notice how success can be very different for each company.
Sony will have the hardest time at this. Not because it won’t sell well for them it will but then what? People will buy this, but what will set it apart from your main platform of choice. Sony would have to do something they don’t like doing in order to really be successful . They would have to allow people access to other markets. Steam, and the epic games store come to mind. Well wait a minute what if I don’t wanna buy the Sony game on the PlayStation store I wanna buy it on another outlet. Sony has to give you that alternative or face he criticism of their platform. But you have to remember once you open the floodgates, they cannot be closed. Once you have a handheld out there that has access to steam people are going to expect day one PlayStation on steam. They would literally say wait a minute you are forcing me into your market when I brought a device that should be capable of reaching every market. Here’s the funny thing since you have to make a device capable of reaching every market that means it would be a Sony device capable of playing Microsoft games via steam so either way your competition gets a play and guess what there are a lot of Sony fans that have not touched Xbox games in a long time You can’t say the same thing for people who own an Xbox.
Sony and Microsoft not waiting on what Nintendo doing on their next handheld Nintendo going to do what Nintendo do 😂
We need a Stramdeck like MICROSOFT WINDOWS Handheld to succeed and for a PlayStation handheld not to succeed. - MS Windows handheld will move gaming forward, a PlayStation handheld will hold gaming back!
We need a GAMING SPECIFIC windows OS that is designed SPECIFICALLY for gaming/handhelds … this way the windows based handheld PCs can function as efficiently as Steam Decks console like experience! Not the current “enthusiast” like experience on the handheld PCs we have now!
PlayStation missed the boat! There’s nothing they can offer me on a handheld that won’t already be on my steam deck ! PlayStation games included!
As a gamer in my 40’s, I have really grown to love the Xbox ease of use and I have no doubt that they will continue that with the new handheld device. Chances are they will be able to have all game libraries available on that device (at least better chances than the competition, IMO) then I believe it will do well. If things change and PlayStation is the one that brings everything together in one device, then I will check that one out. I think newer gamers are waaaay too worried about where other people play. Play where your friends and you can play together. Don’t worry what billion/trillion dollar company I decide to throw my money at.
I'm not sure why so many commentators think the switch 2 will be any good. There is no guarantee. Historically Nintendo have been known to have console failures after a big console hit. Also the switch may have been a big seller but how many of those consoles are used regularly or are they just gathering dut in a drawer.
My feeling is that the Switch 2 will disappoint.
I guess its possible to compltely mess it up but switch 2 should have much more serious third party support.
Omg batman and hogwarts ❤
I don't think either of the handhelds from Sony or Microsoft would be "successful". The main reason why Nintendo is successful in this area is because of the unique exclusive games and the cheap price. With today's gaming industry, I can't see Sony or Microsoft making anything exclusive to their handhelds, giving people less reason to purchase them.
Microsoft literally force you to subscribe to their service or you cannot use it at all and that's bs so I don't have game pass and never will until they make game pass more accessible (without entering in a credit card).
Overall Sony is just going to have a handheld supporting just the PS5 and PS4 ONLY in 3 years. In 3 years Xbox will have the Next Xbox, Xbox Series X, Xbox One, Xbox 360, and original Xbox all with GamePass and might even have Steam support as well. I know which one I would choose.
Switch has surround audio 😂?! I was playing Metal Slug Tactics, and when you kill a bad guy, you get a "OH, OH, OH, OH..." 3D surround echo audio effect 😂
The soundtrack is great too, maybe the developer is just a great sound producer 😂
I only have a hand held console so I can play away from home, the rest of the time I don't use it at all. Not sure this is the way to go
I think it's about even for them. The big thing is are they able to beat the Steam deck or will they get beaten by that?
Steamdeck has only sold 3 maybe 4 million tops? The Vita has beaten that by 4x lol and the PSP demolished it by 20x the sales. It's not a matter of _if_ it will beat Steamdeck sales, it's just a matter of when.
Yeah like the PS5 pro highend 😂😂😂
Short answer is no, long answer is hell no lol for one thing neither can beat Nintendo in the handheld space hell even the steam deck and the other handhelds are microscopic in sales compared to the Switch.
The rumor that the xbox handheld possibly a windows machine is very worrying.
That is NOT what we need. Those already exist.
I want NO launchers on my handheld.
Don't listen to this dude. A dedicated windows launcher for games that isint bloated with windows is exactly what we need
Idk I have the legion go already and it’s so annoying playing games on it compared to a steam deck that is more console like
hell nah, i don't wanna be stuck with playing the xbox 360 version of fallout new vegas. or any unmodded fallout game
It sounds to me like Sony will try to sell you the handheld version of the games you already own. I wouldn't be surprised.
It wouldn't be a unique version of the game though it's just the PS5 code running on a handheld for compatibility, that's the whole idea.
This is the biggest weakness of the other hardware makers. Nintendo is hybrid but these consoles aren't like that. I doubt they are going to have you sticking in disc's so they have a large problem.
@@barcster2003 nahh most Playstation gamers libraries are already digital now so not really, also the PS+ Extra/Deluxe subscribers who have game catalogue and even the base model tier gives you free games to claim every month as long as you're still actively subscribed which is majority of gamers, just from that alone I've got like 300 - 400 games from base tier alone.
By the end of the PS4 gen gamers libraries were around 50/50 physical and digital hence why Phil Spencer said they lost the most important generation to lose because gamers started making their digital collection mostly in Playstation's ecosystem, not Xbox. Also hence why Sony even made an optional digital model PS5 at launch in 2020. In 2022 only 21% new game sales were physical, would be even less now in 2024.
Sony could probably get away with an all digital handheld, although it would be nice and possible if they also supported the remaining few who still have physical collections by creating a physical to digital media conversion program, there's a few ways they could make that happen if they wanted to.
Xbox vs PlayStation doesn't even matter anymore, Xbox competing with Apple and android now and yet Sony still think they still competing Xbox lol
Biggest advantage Xbox can have that the others cannot is windows unless they invest in android partnership. Some might say that is windows is not a good thing. But if they can integrate it well as in primary bootup being a game launcher with a menu to access windows from within then it has more uses than just a game handheld.
The X could have a phone service built in an bring windows 12 and windows 12 mobile to close integration with gaming being the focus. Then is it not a secondary buy like switch but a bento box.
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What is an xbox? Everything can be an xbox and an Xbox can have everything inside. X marks the spot lol.
Well tencent that's making a horizon game well there's no horizon game on Xbox if this comes to Xbox will have a horizon game I honestly would like to play it if they don't get sued
I'm not a big PlayStation fan but I think PlayStation should have stayed in the handheld market I don't even know why they left in the first place 🤷
Because their handhelds flopped. ☮️
@ninetendopesaitama2107 I never heard of the handheld flopping except for one and that was the PS go or whatever it was called
@ninetendopesaitama2107 but thanks for the information
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 please look up the word what if
@@natejoe9924 psp sold not enough games for fonys expectations and vita flopped and was abandoned by them. ☮️
If Xbox handheld players all my games and also can play steam I get it just got Samsung tv and it plays xcloud great so I not sure I getting next home console
This guy looks like a costume Phillip would wear on The Americans.
Sony can idk about Xbox in handheld
I'm definitely curious on how MS will differentiate themselves in the portable space. I feel like they will have more of an advantage over PS in several different ways..
Xbox Portable + Gamepass? Yeah, there's no contest. But I am curious how Playstation will tackle the handheld scene, though I'm a little pessimistic as well, considering how the Vita was treated.
They will make it a Xcloud + GamePass machine. If rumours are to be believed they might even have a hybrid of cloud plus native. Something I don’t think Sony could do…
it has to play real xbox games alongside pc games
@@superhero3683they will have a Windows handheld without the huge size and agility of desktop windows. The series os. Open to steam /epic /gog. They have everything to be successful and even compete with big N. Nintendo knows this and they chose to be friends with Microsoft. Which is smart in the long run. ☮️
An advantage? 😂As in how badly they already get outsold in consoles? 🤣😂📊. They will be dead last place again under Sony and Nintendo please don’t kid yourself.
and lol, nobody is pushing against consumers because they like one console more than the other, ridiculous suggestion. but thinking microsoft getting stuff for free is good for consumers is stupid. consumers dont care if microsoft or google is earning money, if you can expect google to be selfless you can expect microsoft also to be selfless, but suprise, both want to earn money with their eco systems and now a judge should decide who of both doesnt earn his profits because microsoft wants to implement a service that is too expensive for the regular customer?
PlayStation will dominate Xbox in handheld.
I won’t buy either Sony or Xbox hand held. I only need one and it’s Nintendo!
No you can not get suicide squad for 3 dollars that’s the digital edition content. The full game is not included! 😂do better with your research
You can play halo infinite on your rog natively download on gamepass smh
PlayStation handheld should sell more
How about you discuss actual news instead of pandering to fanboys
Guys he's been in blissful ignorance of the avowed situation afraid to upset any of you with his opinions YOU ARE BEING PANDERED TOO STOP BEING SO GULLIBLE
Game pass will always win compared to anything sony has.
Neither has a good chance at success. We have the deck and switch. What use would these have? Everyone who wants a PS5 will have one by the time this comes out, so again, who is going to pay 600-700 bucks so they can play PS5 on a small screen? Vita and PSP already failed.
The idea of an Xbox handheld is preposterous. If its a steam deck competitor, well the steam deck already exists. They cant even sell regular xboxs why would anyone want a handheld xbox? As for having steam and other storefronts on it, as previously mentioned, the deck already exists.
PSP was somewhat of a success at 80M...it just got stomped out by Nintendo DS 😂(150M). Then it carried over to "round 2", where VITA got annihilated by 3DS. That was pretty much all she wrote for Sony's handheld charge.
In fact, Sony makes it's competitors..."difficult to develop for" for third parties 😂? Nintendo made VITA difficult to develop for 😂...VITA got zero third party support, did less than 20M, and was relegated to a cult anime/import handheld.
But yeah, I'd welcome an Xbox powerful high end handheld. I got down time at my job 😂...where I'm playing Metal Slug Tactics, Advance Wars 1+2, Mortal Kombat 1, etc on Switch 😂!
I'm so used to Switch now, I wouldn't abandoned it, I like the Metroid series 😂...they get Japanese imports too.
I would add the Xbox for more complex strategy games and triple A. I got Xcom 2, Ancestors Legacy, NorthGard, Startopia on Switch...they dont really work on Switch 🙂...framerates, TEENY TINY text...they'd be much better on a more powerful handheld.
Advance War 1+2 and Metal Slug Tactics, PERFECT for Switch 😂! Cartoony graphics. The advanced graphics are gonna come from Nintendo themselves, Metroid Prime Remastered is beautiful. But third party triple A? I'd go with an Xbox handheld. Fatal Fury retro, okay Switch 😂