"DeepSeek CANNOT Be Trusted" - Rep. Ro Khanna WARNS About China’s AI Takeover!

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
  • This PBD Podcast clip explores the implications of Nvidia's record-breaking $600 billion market cap loss, sparked by the emergence of China's DeepSeek AI. The discussion covers AI competition, the role of U.S. startups, open-source innovation, global tech rivalry, and the strategic challenges in maintaining U.S. dominance in the AI race.
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  • @satinderbank4607
    @satinderbank4607 8 дней назад +980

    "DeepSeek CANNOT Be Trusted" - Hmmm.... and Google, Meta AI can be ? Best comedy line of the decade

    • @JohnChu-z4w
      @JohnChu-z4w 8 дней назад +36

      U.S. court ruling certifies that Apple's Siri eavesdropped and secretly recorded user conversations

    • @PlanetCHINA.1
      @PlanetCHINA.1 8 дней назад +7

      from a brainless ..

    • @rajuchiluvuri4716
      @rajuchiluvuri4716 8 дней назад

      If you can't trust CIA and deep state, how can you trust open source software

    • @peterbelanger4094
      @peterbelanger4094 7 дней назад

      Anything tainted by CCP ideology & culture can not be trusted. China can't be trusted.

    • @peterbelanger4094
      @peterbelanger4094 7 дней назад

      Anything

  • @Dangic23
    @Dangic23 8 дней назад +938

    Same goes for Open AI, Meta, Google, etc.
    Can’t be trusted.

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 8 дней назад +30

      Yes all evil, even government

    • @ghost-writer007
      @ghost-writer007 8 дней назад +15

      Apple microsoft

    • @John-b6u5b
      @John-b6u5b 8 дней назад

      An Indian talking trash about Chinese products, who would have guessed?

    • @CarportCarl
      @CarportCarl 8 дней назад

      They all need to face Treason charges. The executives

    • @jaycdp
      @jaycdp 8 дней назад +17

      This is not cold war, Now in every village every kid will start innovating, that means end of corporate greed and golden age for poor people with no brain damage with junk food and obesity

  • @mgs5241
    @mgs5241 8 дней назад +722

    China just exposed America’s multi billion dollar AI scam. 😂😂😂 Those greedy billionaires in silicon valley must be pissed. 😂😂😂 Good job China.

    • @PlanetCHINA.1
      @PlanetCHINA.1 8 дней назад

      it's even run up to trillions...corruption exposed

    • @TinaA-ob4rr
      @TinaA-ob4rr 8 дней назад +32

      I hate to agree but I do.

    • @kaleeysmith8801
      @kaleeysmith8801 8 дней назад

      yup, but FACIST america, will twist this truth into a narrative against china......... watch how fast western media and social media companies like valutainment, twist this into propaganda against chinese, and the american SHEEP people will eat up the lies, just like 100 other lies in the past. ONLY difference is, the lies against china and russia will get america nuked.

    • @aziziborhan7121
      @aziziborhan7121 8 дней назад +21

      agree. too much corruption among them. all money goes to them

    • @JCSY1
      @JCSY1 8 дней назад +4

      @@mgs5241 Do more with less. 😂😂😂

  • @richardlabeja
    @richardlabeja 7 дней назад +165

    A year ago they said China was 10 years behind US in AI, then last month they said China was 5 years behind, then here we are in January 2025 with DeepSeek. Never underestimate your competition.

    • @nammoadidaphat52
      @nammoadidaphat52 7 дней назад

      Watch out for propaganda for political agendas of CCP!

    • @Roberto-kc8tx
      @Roberto-kc8tx 6 дней назад +11

      Next they will be saying China is 10 years ahead 😅😅😅!!!

    • @brianye964
      @brianye964 6 дней назад

      ​@@Roberto-kc8txthey will not say that. More likely they will say, China stole our technology which we will be developing in 10 years.

    • @ashleybanks-wm4cg
      @ashleybanks-wm4cg 6 дней назад

      That's because of Corporate espionage China has robbed America of a lot of opportunities with this Yu should be worried not making jokes China just stole our work and copied our homework that should make you mad

    • @donelltarver7371
      @donelltarver7371 6 дней назад +1

      They are 😂😂

  • @MrChenjinyuan
    @MrChenjinyuan 7 дней назад +73

    Read the writing on the wall
    1. US excluded China from Space station fraternity. Now China has its own
    2. China leads technology in High speed trains. US does not have any
    3. China is leader in alt. Energy especially solar and wind technology
    4. American motor industry is basically non existent
    China leads in the Electric Vehicle market
    5. US tried to resrict Huawei. Huawei has gone from strength to strength
    6. Now we have Deepseek which is s start up research AI company which hss put all the hyped up Ai related tech companies.
    7. China continues to inovate and surprise. US competes via sanctions and tarriffs

    • @livefree1030
      @livefree1030 6 дней назад +7

      You forgot how far the Chang'e program is. US is still on Artemis 1 and it's delayed another 3 years from being delayed 5.
      Chinas Chang'e is already on Chang'e 8 (3d printing a base on the dark side of the moon)

    • @donelltarver7371
      @donelltarver7371 6 дней назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @dalazycheapskate
      @dalazycheapskate 5 дней назад +5

      The word in China is America is helping them improve with all the restrictions. It helps them get stronger and innovate out of necessity

    • @144kGz
      @144kGz 5 дней назад +3

      💯

    • @josephmwamlima2377
      @josephmwamlima2377 3 дня назад

      ​@@dalazycheapskate Not surprised an Indian guy is with these guys. India is basically so far behind china that people like him are not happy.

  • @sheenoreiki7843
    @sheenoreiki7843 8 дней назад +675

    Deepseek is open sourced whereas OpenAI isn't, we obviously know which is the dangerous one

    • @bleak83
      @bleak83 8 дней назад +4

      I would ask people to to watch glenn beck's video on his conversation with deepseek

    • @user-vh8yn9cc9h
      @user-vh8yn9cc9h 8 дней назад

      Yes DeepSeek, the CCP spyware

    • @aes9217
      @aes9217 8 дней назад +25

      If you dont like how it responds you can retrain it yourself with 70% less powerful GPUs. Thats the power of open source software

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 8 дней назад +3

      All ai is evil

    • @sheenoreiki7843
      @sheenoreiki7843 8 дней назад +13

      @@bleak83 I would trust fireship over him on this matter

  • @TingMo-n4i
    @TingMo-n4i 8 дней назад +483

    I will trust Chinese AI over Meta and google

    • @MoisesRosarioHernandezshort
      @MoisesRosarioHernandezshort 7 дней назад +10

      Meet too

    • @phoenixrising164
      @phoenixrising164 7 дней назад +4

      😂

    • @FreeSpeech-z6j
      @FreeSpeech-z6j 7 дней назад

      nice try yellow wu mao, we are not accepting "free speech" from ccp 50 cent army.

    • @jwren51
      @jwren51 7 дней назад

      In the UK there's about 3,000 people in jail for social media posts. I doubt they were using Chinese apps or were reported by the CCP. 😅

    • @WebStixx0000
      @WebStixx0000 7 дней назад +1

      Joker

  • @georgeyawopoku4639
    @georgeyawopoku4639 8 дней назад +457

    As usual and always, everything about China cannot be trusted, pathetic for the US when it comes to competetion.

    • @plastilina2007
      @plastilina2007 8 дней назад

      The big moneys guys already are ready to invest in DeepSeek. No loyalty to USA

    • @garfraaccounting4010
      @garfraaccounting4010 8 дней назад +22

      It's seems that's the only excuse our politicians can say. I think is another way to tell us China is ahead in that area.

    • @ksw7259
      @ksw7259 8 дней назад +13

      Arrogant .cannot lose, always want to win.

    • @LordHeroMc
      @LordHeroMc 8 дней назад +9

      You realize American apps are banned in China right 😂😭

    • @user-ot2nh8qb7d
      @user-ot2nh8qb7d 8 дней назад +4

      @@garfraaccounting4010Because these things are way too technical for them and above their heads.

  • @SuccessSecretsTV
    @SuccessSecretsTV 7 дней назад +38

    I trust Facebook, Google, and OpenCloseAi. Now you know im a fool.

  • @kornbob2665
    @kornbob2665 8 дней назад +37

    Thankyou China for the OPEN SOURCE DeepSeek.

  • @d1btd3265
    @d1btd3265 8 дней назад +574

    You can run it on your own laptop, without it accessing the internet. No data leaves your control. This is fearmongering on behalf of openai.

    • @j.c.4192
      @j.c.4192 8 дней назад +60

      these guys has there bets on team US a long time ago. They are just doing damage control and pump it back up while they sell and hedge.

    • @brendandeery5705
      @brendandeery5705 8 дней назад +32

      Exactly. If deepseek can be used to train your own data on your own servers for less expense than US competitors then naturally companies will use the cheapest option.

    • @sophiahcq1282
      @sophiahcq1282 8 дней назад

      Would you please have common sense little bit? CCP lied about their rockets have landed on the moon where the area no light no one can see. Xi told Trump when summer comes the virus will go away ! Why we lost memories so fast? Tiktok must banned it makes Americans lost common sense ! Bcz they lost the ability to think buy directly acceptable to all lies.

    • @vladeputinovic6128
      @vladeputinovic6128 8 дней назад

      "progressive" khana in fear mongering.... hypocrite trash

    • @Red_Flags_Reactions
      @Red_Flags_Reactions 8 дней назад +28

      They invested so money in Nvidia that’s why they are downing DeepSeek, but Nvidia is already down 1 trillion 😂😂😂

  • @NorthTonawanda1
    @NorthTonawanda1 8 дней назад +94

    It's the American way, call what they're doing evil, justify spending billions to combat it. I hate this aspect of America.

  • @kevinyong8095
    @kevinyong8095 8 дней назад +183

    How can the world trust anything about the USA

    • @TheCbins
      @TheCbins 8 дней назад +4

      100%

    • @polyseed12
      @polyseed12 7 дней назад +7

      We are closed for business. We will reopen in 2075.

    • @GGLEDOU
      @GGLEDOU 7 дней назад

      The world can trust the US when it comes to sanctions, tariffs, regime change, wars, and so on.

    • @Caged63Man
      @Caged63Man 7 дней назад +6

      You mean United States of Israel!?

    • @marksmanships
      @marksmanships 7 дней назад

      and you trust China more? If so, how are they better?

  • @MrRajaGamer100k
    @MrRajaGamer100k 7 дней назад +600

    Qardun has two of the largest Tesla shareholders already; most likely something is coming

  • @minimale3243
    @minimale3243 8 дней назад +21

    Deepseek is OPEN SOURCE. It means anyone can look at the source code, modify and customise it to their hearts content even. It'll be pretty stupid if they coded it to do malicious things and then leave it completely out in the open for the whole world to see, dont you think? Also since its open source you can remove anything from the source code you may think is suspicious. So the whole trust issue is a non starter. Secondly they also published a technical paper elaborating how they managed to train deepseek with the claimed resources and funds and some people who are already testing and replicating the process seem to think the numbers are legit. Lastly the utterly blinkered comment about it being biased towards China is hilarious. Just cause it replies that chinese people love their president? Has it even occured to the person that it gives that reply cause its True? Yes, Chinese people like their president xi jing ping. Just because it doesnt give you the answer you want doesnt mean its biased. Maybe get some people who know about tech to discuss next time. What a disastrous discussion.

  • @HarveyChenBlog
    @HarveyChenBlog 8 дней назад +332

    China: deepseek!
    World: deepshock!
    Silicon Valley: deepwreck!
    Investors: deepshit!
    Geopoliticians: deepsick! 😂😂😂😂

  • @Donut16367
    @Donut16367 8 дней назад +292

    I’m glad that technology is in the hands of civilization.

    • @keepingittight
      @keepingittight 8 дней назад +23

      HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR

    • @bang8534
      @bang8534 8 дней назад

      You are right, it's firmly in the hands of a 5000 Year Chinese civilization; and out of the robber barons in silicon valley who are parasites

    • @spooky99
      @spooky99 7 дней назад +3

      that's why Tom's argument sounds like oligarchs

    • @SumTingWong888
      @SumTingWong888 7 дней назад

      Lol, not china

    • @ThereYouAreT1
      @ThereYouAreT1 7 дней назад +2

      ​@@keepingittight❤❤

  • @AustinJohnson-zv5hy
    @AustinJohnson-zv5hy 8 дней назад +241

    I love when non-technical people say things they don't understand about technical issues.

    • @davidmendez528
      @davidmendez528 7 дней назад +8

      Adam is clueless 😅

    • @GGLEDOU
      @GGLEDOU 7 дней назад

      Like this chatpati Rep.

    • @woogieboogie3889
      @woogieboogie3889 7 дней назад +1

      That's 99.9 percent of the comment section. I had no idea we had so many God like polymaths with PHds. You wanna know why we have problems just read what these goobers write.

    • @omphilemathole4450
      @omphilemathole4450 7 дней назад +6

      Remember, Podcasters want to be first to upload content, without fact checking. Thats why many podcasts recycle guests and topics, with no substance, chasing the buck over quality of content.

    • @baejisoozy
      @baejisoozy 7 дней назад +5

      spot on. These luddites are absolutely dodo brained when it comes to the tech.

  • @cellmate69
    @cellmate69 7 дней назад +38

    It’s so painful to hear a non-technology person discussing field they don’t even understand. DeepSeek make the AI to run on lower computing machine and they make it open source. So every small company or individual can already access the AI technology with small budget. No longer need the highest powerful chip. The technology already democratise by Chinese engineers. With open source you can use and modify and make profit from it. US gov no longer need to spend 500B for the Stargate project as now AI tech is cheaper. Thanks for DeepSeek.

  • @jyotisangale4199
    @jyotisangale4199 7 дней назад +810

    $Qardun yet has to really hit mainstream media guys

  • @ShadowBlack-vh5ed
    @ShadowBlack-vh5ed 8 дней назад +100

    Warmongering...now Fearmongering 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @albuquerquehotspot7835
    @albuquerquehotspot7835 8 дней назад +254

    Bruh DeepSeek is open source and explained their process plainly. Cmon.

    • @Jimmybucketzz
      @Jimmybucketzz 8 дней назад +9

      Boomers are not techy, unless they are nerds, open source dont mean shit

    • @SIR_RR
      @SIR_RR 8 дней назад +3

      Ask it about Tiananmen uhummm

    • @debianlasmana8794
      @debianlasmana8794 8 дней назад +8

      @@SIR_RR
      ask about palestinian right in gpt without making ite "complex issue"

    • @Anderson-f4t6c
      @Anderson-f4t6c 8 дней назад +4

      ​@@SIR_RR But that's the best part of open source.
      You can teach it put out most viIe, racist anti Chinese output. If it makes you sleep any better😂😂

    • @SIR_RR
      @SIR_RR 8 дней назад

      @@debianlasmana8794 Tiananmen is so simple and not that complex, if you know how to read.
      And you can ask gtp about Palestinian and Israeli there's no limit about it.. what you talkin.

  • @TheContrarianThinker-S0
    @TheContrarianThinker-S0 8 дней назад +196

    Asking a Chinese app if it is biased, towards the Country's Premier, is like Adam asking ChatGPT if Netanyahoo is as good a Human Being, as he thinks he is 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @VCR0010
      @VCR0010 8 дней назад +13

      Facts they just hating

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 8 дней назад +5

      The deepseek released is their version, of course they would put limitations when it comes to chinese politics. But anybody can get the codes and fine tune it (modify) according to the limitations they personally want.

    • @DukeLM
      @DukeLM 8 дней назад +1

      It all depends on the training

    • @polyseed12
      @polyseed12 7 дней назад

      its open AI.

    • @72dew
      @72dew 4 дня назад

      The censorship comes from the service (front end) not the model (back end). Proof: just change the language of the question.
      Good thing about open source is that you can just have the model.

  • @ElangbamMotilalSingh
    @ElangbamMotilalSingh 7 дней назад +33

    China is the future 👍👍

  • @GSanthosh-rm3sp
    @GSanthosh-rm3sp 7 дней назад +670

    Walmart, Amazon and Trump support? Qardun is going to 500x no doubt... I just hope there is not too many insiders

  • @spaceorbison
    @spaceorbison 8 дней назад +321

    How can it be a "takeover" if its free and open source?

    • @nicholasfrancoeur3897
      @nicholasfrancoeur3897 8 дней назад +7

      You are missing the point !

    • @albuquerquehotspot7835
      @albuquerquehotspot7835 8 дней назад +76

      @@nicholasfrancoeur3897no he’s not 😂 which is why you can’t explain one.

    • @ryang6222
      @ryang6222 8 дней назад +8

      Exactly right.

    • @Hotshotman
      @Hotshotman 8 дней назад

      Because nobody will pay for your expensive and shitty shit when a better shit is free.

    • @bigbigdog
      @bigbigdog 8 дней назад +3

      What IS the point?

  • @croat1455
    @croat1455 8 дней назад +210

    Snowden proved that your side is not good guy that you trust.

    • @guhoya19
      @guhoya19 8 дней назад +2

      He did it for sure

    • @cromBumny
      @cromBumny 8 дней назад +2

      But Chyna is better? Lol...right

    • @meekmeads
      @meekmeads 8 дней назад

      Chinese Asset

    • @guhoya19
      @guhoya19 8 дней назад

      @@cromBumny Way better. China does not bomb other countries. The US has waged so many wars in the past few decades, killing directly and indirectly millions of civilians (source: Brown University the costs of war project) and pretending nothing happened. Of course, Americans either don’t know or don’t care because those civilians are just numbers to them. So yeah, Uncle Sam wins in terms of the number of civilians killed. Be proud of yourself

    • @ChristopherCopeland
      @ChristopherCopeland 8 дней назад

      To all the replies to this- it’s not that the others are “better”, it’s just f-k our government for pretending like they’re the good guys 😊 lie to our face and pretend like we’re safer in their hands than “our” enemies

  • @juliansmulian
    @juliansmulian 8 дней назад +94

    Open source is the answer. The lack of open source in Android is the #1 reason for no major tech advances on phones since Google closed it. Apple hasn't pushed innovation in at least a decade and this is why your iPhone is just a prettier version of your old iPhone with a slightly more powerful chip. Open source is also a big reason crypto has exploded in market value.

  • @CitizenEa
    @CitizenEa 8 дней назад +15

    "CANNOT BE TRUSTED?!" As a developer already building on Deepseek models, I-DON'T-CARE!

  • @Rolaax24
    @Rolaax24 8 дней назад +20

    Deepseek is open sourced and even some African countries can launch similar to Deepseek Ai models with little money.
    Trump's 500b investment for a large data center is dead on arrival at white house parking lot.

  • @DrojanaleTorvic
    @DrojanaleTorvic 8 дней назад +150

    The American empire is declining and Americans can barely notice it 😂😂😂

    • @prettyorangesea
      @prettyorangesea 8 дней назад +4

      in deep sleep stupor

    • @kingscorpion26m
      @kingscorpion26m 8 дней назад

      😂😂😂 America is not a empire

    • @nonsoenwelim9731
      @nonsoenwelim9731 8 дней назад +10

      They’re too obnoxious to see it….well no one can stay ontop forever 🤷‍♂️

    • @TheCbins
      @TheCbins 8 дней назад +2

      @@nonsoenwelim9731 100%

    • @polyseed12
      @polyseed12 7 дней назад

      Half the U.S. knows but the other half is too busy licking Trumps boot to notice.

  • @FlyingScot911
    @FlyingScot911 8 дней назад +105

    As of yesterday I'm running the DeepSeek 32B version on my laptop. Now I'm integrating our databases with it offline keeping our app and database secure. I haven't been able to do anything like this until now due to cost. Now I have an open source model with no cost.

    • @arigatoSev7en
      @arigatoSev7en 7 дней назад +3

      Imagine you could start a small ai consultancy business with it and help companies bring ai on board 😮

    • @crackatinee351
      @crackatinee351 7 дней назад

      And what does it do for you?
      Did it revolutionise your business?
      I bet not much

  • @abdulmalikbadamasi3069
    @abdulmalikbadamasi3069 8 дней назад +187

    usa always crying when lagging behind

    • @MaigreMou
      @MaigreMou 8 дней назад +5

      US obsession to always be the no.1 for everything....at the end I'm not worried about Nvidia, Microsoft, etc. they are diversified companies they will do ok.

    • @mousepurple1713
      @mousepurple1713 8 дней назад

      Abdul Malik from the shithole Middle East 😂

    • @Brainbuster
      @Brainbuster 8 дней назад +1

      Because China piggy backs USA research.

    • @anashasan9263
      @anashasan9263 8 дней назад

      ​@@MaigreMouyes,they will do ok,thats why their stock free falling.

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 8 дней назад +15

      @@MaigreMou They want to be or remain number 1 not by working hard but by stopping others from innovating.

  • @KrishDhole-n6u
    @KrishDhole-n6u 7 дней назад +798

    Good luck everyone that holds Qardun probably a guaranteed profit at launch

  • @anitasaini1298
    @anitasaini1298 7 дней назад +796

    Musk's Qardun announcement is coming soon. Easyest money if you get in on the ICO

  • @codasm
    @codasm 8 дней назад +114

    I trust the Chinese AI more than the Americans chat GTP any day of the week

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 8 дней назад

      They are both evil spirits

    • @Pulgoso1
      @Pulgoso1 8 дней назад +3

      Wow. That's a real bizarre conviction. You should live in china if that's your sincere position. And you don't.

    • @2realink279
      @2realink279 8 дней назад

      @@Pulgoso1yes!

    • @debianlasmana8794
      @debianlasmana8794 8 дней назад +8

      @@Pulgoso1 well...living in american isn't that heavenlly either

    • @Lu_90s
      @Lu_90s 8 дней назад +3

      @@Pulgoso1so people are not allowed to trust what they believe? 😂

  • @12350francois
    @12350francois 8 дней назад +70

    It’s more like this channel can’t be trusted

    • @eleghari
      @eleghari 8 дней назад +8

      This channel SHOULD NOT be trusted. And the fact that PBD is a scammer has been proven time and again 😂

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 7 дней назад +2

      Damn 😂😂

    • @mr.edwvrd
      @mr.edwvrd 6 дней назад +3

      Exactly, Patrick is a clown

  • @RobertRatliff
    @RobertRatliff 8 дней назад +159

    Great move for ai. Open-source is always the way to go.

    • @Brainbuster
      @Brainbuster 8 дней назад +19

      For the uninitiated, OpenAI is NOT open, despite the name. Deep Seek is open source.

    • @appaloosa42
      @appaloosa42 8 дней назад +1

      Do you teally think it’s not biased?

    • @Anderson-f4t6c
      @Anderson-f4t6c 8 дней назад +3

      ​@@appaloosa42It is. But that's the best part of open source. You can teach it put out most viIe, racist anti Chinese output. If it makes you sleep any better

    • @JeremySMJ
      @JeremySMJ 8 дней назад

      Yeah what these guys said about Deepseek being pro China is pointless for multiple reasons.
      1) its open source and you can make a version called DeepFake that says whatver you want about China
      2) China is very transparent about its censorship so you know what information wont be accurate
      3) America AI and internet is filled with far more random fake and censored info.
      Last year, when i tried, ChatGPT would not right a story where Trump was the hero because it cannot participate in political issues but immediately did the same prompt about Obama and Biden. Americans are actually far more censored than Chinese people because China is just open about it. Americans arent even aware of the bubble they are trapped inside. Deepseek should be trusted far more than any American released AI systems, especially if open sourced

    • @RobertRatliff
      @RobertRatliff 7 дней назад +3

      @appaloosa42 who cares it is better than openai

  • @AnilKumar-ns1vm
    @AnilKumar-ns1vm 7 дней назад +257

    I am in Qardun with everything

  • @Corpselordx
    @Corpselordx 6 дней назад +7

    If it's between the CIA or CCP spying on me, I would go with CCP on any day 😂

  • @newworldorder9891
    @newworldorder9891 8 дней назад +123

    hahaha, only politicians said China is a threat. Scientists and the common people said , its NOT .

    • @griefg2967
      @griefg2967 8 дней назад

      Scientists can not be trusted.

    • @MrMaguuuuuuuuu
      @MrMaguuuuuuuuu 8 дней назад +1

      Covid says ni hao

    • @MrJermson
      @MrJermson 8 дней назад +10

      @@MrMaguuuuuuuuu Wow. This is the only intelligent reply you can come out with? Our country is in deep shit.

    • @justicerules1373
      @justicerules1373 8 дней назад

      ​@@MrJermson, every time anyone who said the truth about China, RUclips either censored that person or western paid bots would attack that person fierciously!

    • @URnignorant
      @URnignorant 8 дней назад +2

      @@MrJermsonyet people forgot and moved on so fast.

  • @lucasa1059
    @lucasa1059 8 дней назад +87

    Go China !!!! 🇨🇳

    • @SIR_RR
      @SIR_RR 8 дней назад +1

      Chinas enemy is china itself, lol victimization card again

  • @paulaitix77
    @paulaitix77 8 дней назад +56

    khanna doesn't know what he's talking about, good grief

    • @harisabram4767
      @harisabram4767 7 дней назад +3

      Khanna is an Indian, the Chinese due to their economic and military power, are always a threat to them.

    • @peterg0
      @peterg0 7 дней назад +2

      @@harisabram4767 Because some parts of indian land belonged to China before Indian master british invading that region ....

    • @liengamier3290
      @liengamier3290 7 дней назад

      Khanna know about india

    • @HIIIBEAR
      @HIIIBEAR 7 дней назад

      😂 you dont understand what he’s saying. Compute is literally the only thing we have over China, India, Japan. Please look into what is actually happening. Its embarrassing seeing humans with access to the same info not see basic logic

  • @lebohang8405
    @lebohang8405 7 дней назад +8

    America is yesterday in all areas of life and tech while China is tomorrow!!

  • @mansinghyadav3318
    @mansinghyadav3318 7 дней назад +739

    Trump has announced a new coin $Qardun

  • @shik4488
    @shik4488 8 дней назад +57

    Yes we cant trist China but we can TOTALLY trust American companies not to abuse their data access, even though they already do right now

    • @mrtee1211
      @mrtee1211 8 дней назад

      I trust the Chinese more than I trust Elon H Musk with my data!!!

  • @branbozic
    @branbozic 8 дней назад +31

    China, China, China! National Security! 😂
    The same and very predictable responses from the US whenever China does ANYTHING that's better 😂
    The US is falling behind in competing!

  • @roque-au-parcus
    @roque-au-parcus 8 дней назад +34

    Coming from a software engineer, this guest has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

  • @googoogooman
    @googoogooman 8 дней назад +9

    Competition is good, and Deepseek is great.

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 7 дней назад

      U can build a car by yourself from scratch, does that sound right?

  • @hansonhughes684
    @hansonhughes684 7 дней назад +38

    I lost over $80k when everything started to tank. Not because I was in an exchange that went belly up. I was just stupid to hold and because that's what everyone said. I'm still responsible. It just taught me to be a better investor now that I understand more of what could go wrong. It took me over two years of being in the market, I'm really grateful I found one source to recover my money, at least $10k profits weekly. Thanks Veronica Hoy

    • @Camillalambertilee2123
      @Camillalambertilee2123 7 дней назад

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    • @Lunlun07
      @Lunlun07 7 дней назад

      She is my family's personal Broker and also a personal Broker to many families in the United states, she is a licensed broker and a FINRA AGENT in the United States.

    • @Alfonsosilva6
      @Alfonsosilva6 7 дней назад

      You trade with Veronica Hoy too? Wow that woman has been a blessing to me and my family.

    • @ChristophAdino12w2
      @ChristophAdino12w2 7 дней назад

      I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?

    • @ThomasGuirgio1
      @ThomasGuirgio1 7 дней назад

      I was skeptical at first till I decided to try. Its huge returns is awesome. I can't say much

  • @purplechum9
    @purplechum9 8 дней назад +54

    How smug the Americans talking heads are. Can't stand that China is kicking butt and we aren't the cats' meow.

    • @grlnexdoorable
      @grlnexdoorable 8 дней назад +1

      Bot

    • @purplechum9
      @purplechum9 8 дней назад +1

      @@grlnexdoorable Not

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 8 дней назад

      All these governments are ridiculous

    • @jeffwads
      @jeffwads 8 дней назад +2

      @@grlnexdoorablenot a bot just not very bright.

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 7 дней назад

      Where are the Chinese on this subject? Why aren't we allowed to communicate with each other? It appears neither country will permit it. Reminds me of the USSR, but over here.

  • @beekeeper937
    @beekeeper937 8 дней назад +43

    It's interesting how much the origin of an AI model can shape how people perceive it. Imagine if a powerful LLM like DeepSeek had been developed in a Scandinavian country, would it face the same scrutiny or speculation about hidden agendas?
    We often forget that developers, no matter where they’re based, aren’t just extensions of their governments. Sure, the Chinese government might have more access to DeepSeek because of where it’s developed, but that’s not unique to China. The U.S. (with intelligence agencies leveraging tech firms), Israel (with close ties between the military and tech), and France (with its state-supported industries) all have varying levels of government involvement in private companies too.
    The key difference here is that DeepSeek is open source, which means anyone can review its code and training for potential bias. Plus, with the accessibility of specialized hardware like Groq's LPU, or companies like Perplexity AI building their own models, DeepSeek can be run outside its country of origin. Its birthplace doesn’t dictate where it operates or how it’s used.
    Instead of judging technology by where it comes from, let’s focus on what it can do and how it can drive innovation. Allowing bias to cloud our perspective only holds back progress and prevents fair evaluation.

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 7 дней назад

      Which version was rolled out and China? Let's see what they think.

  • @RobertRatliff
    @RobertRatliff 8 дней назад +34

    DeepSeek is fine

  • @osamazayed8480
    @osamazayed8480 8 дней назад +47

    This channel loves free market until there’s a competitor from outside of the US

    • @AnaLissansky
      @AnaLissansky 8 дней назад +9

      At the amazing price of ZERO this model is actually the best value

    • @JesusEsDios007
      @JesusEsDios007 8 дней назад +10

      OpenAI is close source and deep seek is open source. That tells you everything.

    • @73oxen
      @73oxen 8 дней назад +8

      Yup, the arrogance suddenly got smacked. especially on Patrick.

    • @73oxen
      @73oxen 8 дней назад +4

      Americans here talks too much. Loud and no wisdom. Too bad Ro.....

    • @MO_603
      @MO_603 8 дней назад

      Every country is, and should be, nationalistic, unless they are stupid.

  • @rdzhang
    @rdzhang 8 дней назад +42

    Those hosts don't understand differences between open sources and proprietary. If the app is an open source nothing is hidden. It doesn't matter which country or people who wrote the source code. Period.

    • @brewcity2317
      @brewcity2317 8 дней назад +7

      Correct.
      And if everyone on Earth uses less expensive AI that is just as good as American astronomically expensive AI, then the USA simply loses.

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 7 дней назад

      Yeah, but Triads though.

  • @murphy7-x3y
    @murphy7-x3y 8 дней назад +47

    Rep. Ro Khanna's warning about Deepseek being dangerous because it's made by the Chinese is like saying chopsticks are dangerous because they're made in China. It's not just ignorant; it's a whole new level of cluelessness. 🤣😂😅

    • @joycegoins8221
      @joycegoins8221 8 дней назад

      This is the same kind of fear monger they say about TT and we are on RED NOTE and so far we don’t see anything happened to our DATA. Allegedly MARK was accused of selling our data that one of the reasons he changed from Facebook to Meta.

    • @level1selamat155
      @level1selamat155 8 дней назад +1

      Tamilian or Malayalam

    • @URnignorant
      @URnignorant 8 дней назад

      china ccp has deep hatred towards US and they can’t inflict harm to US militarily but through cheap subsidized
      manufacturing and İP theft. Common people have no idea what ccp schema for the long.
      I never forget after 911 I witnessed that one of the ccp general openly praised and said it was cool during a school meeting.

    • @michaelotieno6524
      @michaelotieno6524 7 дней назад +4

      It is even dumber than that it is like saying you don't trust your local Chinese food outlet because it sells Chinese food.

    • @mubarizsalim
      @mubarizsalim 7 дней назад +1

      Ro Khanna is P jeet

  • @HarryBungle
    @HarryBungle 7 дней назад +7

    what happens if you ask US AI about who started the Vietnam war, Iraq war and the Ukrainian conflict?....and what nation is the biggest mass murderers in history?? will it tell the truth??

  • @ALuizRG
    @ALuizRG 7 дней назад +3

    The truth is that the Chinese government works for the well-being of the people, while the American government works to make millionaires-like this one-even richer. That’s why all these millions in investments end up in the pockets of millionaires.
    In other words, American policy is designed to create a few millionaires, while Chinese policy is focused on improving people's lives.

  • @Luiz-w5s
    @Luiz-w5s 8 дней назад +33

    If they could do it with a less modern chip and just 6M in investiment, imagine what they could do with US level investiment. Once they develop their own modern chip, it's over for the US in the tech sector. They produce millions of STEM profissionals per year.

    • @BenjaBoss
      @BenjaBoss 8 дней назад +3

      1.5 million stem graduates, US 500k graduates. Because our primary public schools are antiquated and have no investment in our precious children. None. College free in China

    • @JCSY1
      @JCSY1 8 дней назад +2

      To defeat China, the US needs at least USD 50 Trillions, not USD 500 Billions. 😂

    • @JCSY1
      @JCSY1 8 дней назад +3

      ​@@BenjaBossand most of the 500K are foreigners including Chinese, Indians and others. 😂😂😂. How to compete? 😂😂😂

    • @Caged63Man
      @Caged63Man 7 дней назад

      😆😅😂😅🤣 your funny!

    • @QuantumEcofarm
      @QuantumEcofarm 7 дней назад

      Aren’t just Tech & Innovation should make our life easier and cheaper?instead off falling into like big company profit making machine sucking out our blood?

  • @mandeepnanda
    @mandeepnanda 8 дней назад +21

    Thing coming FROM USA always be trusted. MOral of the story. Even now other countries have stopped trusting USA.

  • @TingMo-n4i
    @TingMo-n4i 8 дней назад +19

    The US is taking another L from China 😂😂😂

  • @gautamanyerere3294
    @gautamanyerere3294 4 дня назад +1

    Why's the US default position is always to ban competition when they think they can lose??

  • @josetreto7937
    @josetreto7937 6 дней назад +1

    Mega sure likes you guys! 😄😄

  • @MV12267
    @MV12267 8 дней назад +34

    I have already moved all my projects to deepseek. Everyone has all your data it doesn't matter anymore.

    • @mrtee1211
      @mrtee1211 8 дней назад +6

      I trust the Chinese more than I trust elon musk with my data

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 7 дней назад

      What can China do to a u s resident?

    • @MV12267
      @MV12267 7 дней назад +1

      @@FIRSTASIAN the government definitely cares way more than the average citizen. Is China going to start sending me propaganda mail? That would be hilarious.

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 7 дней назад

      @ exactly

  • @TNNest2023
    @TNNest2023 8 дней назад +17

    One of the most controversial quotes I’ve ever heard is “if you don’t cheat you don’t care enough about winning.”

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 8 дней назад +3

      The western mentality where they say winning is not everything, it is the only thing.

    • @slc801
      @slc801 8 дней назад +1

      Ask Tanya Harding “ American ice skater “😜

  • @prasadareddy5617
    @prasadareddy5617 8 дней назад +8

    This isn't about questioning capability-America can certainly develop its own AI independently. The point is that cost-effective alternatives have been demonstrated, proving such innovation doesn’t require $500 billion in funding. Much of that budget would likely end up padding executive compensation rather than driving progress. With this transparency, corporate leaders can no longer justify inflated spending claims to everyday investors

  • @PlayShorts3
    @PlayShorts3 6 дней назад +1

    It must be painful for Patrick and Adam to read all the comments supporting Chinese AI over the USA’s 😂😂

  • @BuddhaHeadAI
    @BuddhaHeadAI 5 дней назад +2

    In summary, whether the situation in Gaza legally constitutes genocide is still under intense debate and investigation by international bodies such as the International Criminal Court and the International Court of Justice. What is clear is that the conflict has resulted in enormous suffering and widespread destruction, and there is a significant push among many human rights advocates to hold all responsible parties accountable for violations of international humanitarian law. chatgpt answer

  • @Dan-eu6fl
    @Dan-eu6fl 8 дней назад +20

    Open source is already what it say Open source. everyone has access to it.

  • @donaldreynolds3561
    @donaldreynolds3561 8 дней назад +16

    That's rich! None on our US companies should be trusted either! LMFAO!

    • @arunanarina1316
      @arunanarina1316 7 дней назад

      It's too late Buddy
      Zuckerberg bought an Island in Hawaii, from your Money 😃👍

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 7 дней назад +1

      Doesn't this remind you of the Covid?

  • @TNNest2023
    @TNNest2023 8 дней назад +15

    This Indian guy must have never heard cloud computing. You can automatically scale almost anything if you got money 💴

  • @gregwang8628
    @gregwang8628 7 дней назад +5

    Trusted or not is not up to you politicians, it’s up to the people, don’t play the scare game, people are not stupid as you think, on the other hand, you are trusted or not is the question you should worry about.

  • @keemy258
    @keemy258 7 дней назад +3

    Deep seek is free for whole world to enjoy using. They don't charge $200 /month for usage it's totally FREE. 👍

  • @stinger2214
    @stinger2214 8 дней назад +20

    Doesn't matter if it can be trusted or not.
    How is it possible for quants from a hedge fund to build an equivalent ai chat bot as a side project for a fraction of the price
    Then give it away to the world for free and explained to everyone how to build it themselves

  • @9997gg
    @9997gg 8 дней назад +16

    “It won’t let you ask about Tiananmen Square!” Okay and ChatGPT has multiple things it won’t talk about, so clearly censorship doesn’t matter that much

    • @eleghari
      @eleghari 8 дней назад +3

      That "Tiananmen Square" example was the only thing The Guardian can find wrong with DeepSeek too 🤭
      Pathetic!

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 8 дней назад

      thay make ai as a tool not for politic..

    • @TheCbins
      @TheCbins 8 дней назад

      Ask it about Guantanamo? Or which government overthrows democratically elected leaders?

    • @arigatoSev7en
      @arigatoSev7en 7 дней назад

      The point is even if it can't talk about tiananmen square, then what happens ? Really then what happens??

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 7 дней назад +1

      @ why you want involve AI with politic? only Pathetic people do that

  • @Red_Flags_Reactions
    @Red_Flags_Reactions 8 дней назад +12

    Nvidia bubble was bound to bust at some point😂😂😂😂😂

  • @bGzzzzz
    @bGzzzzz 6 дней назад +1

    Well it’s clear they did it cheaper considering the ridiculous wages Google/Meta/OpenAI pay themselves 🤷‍♂️
    Question should be - where did OpenAI actually put that money 🤔

  • @alrickyt9075
    @alrickyt9075 6 дней назад +1

    What does Ro and Patrick knows about AI?

  • @KemalKaratatar
    @KemalKaratatar 8 дней назад +18

    Chatgpt can share only public information till 2021 and can not tell how many people are working for openai 😂😂😂😂

  • @user-pl9wu1xy3m
    @user-pl9wu1xy3m 8 дней назад +19

    The way we all saw this coming already lmao 😂

  • @Peace-ok7xo
    @Peace-ok7xo 8 дней назад +13

    So everything has turned into politics, Including science and innovation. Smh

  • @luting3
    @luting3 7 дней назад +1

    Agree. People should stop using non open AI, which could be inspected by public. With so many AI experts scrutinizing now. It makes the safest AI in human history.

  • @shencheanglow3726
    @shencheanglow3726 7 дней назад +4

    So Deepseek avoid discussing controversial issues like Xinjiang genocide, , Hingkong riots, Tiananmen incident or massacre as foreigners like to call it made it ubreliable for use. While meta or google censored discussions on Palestinian genocide, jewish cartel in US politics and such controversial topics is OK for use?

  • @naamaramirez46
    @naamaramirez46 8 дней назад +21

    I used to like this channel.

    • @j.c.4192
      @j.c.4192 8 дней назад

      it's just doing pump and dumps now and shill.

    • @Facts-Over-Feelings
      @Facts-Over-Feelings 8 дней назад

      CANT STAND PBD THE MLS CONMAN. I POST JUST TO EXPOSE HIS RACIST BS

  • @TheContrarianThinker-S0
    @TheContrarianThinker-S0 8 дней назад +10

    And, people like Altman can 🤣🤣🤣
    He's been using his tech to scan people's retinas, for biometric data collation, for 2 years!

  • @richardz247
    @richardz247 8 дней назад +16

    Huawei is already preparing something better than Nvdia top chip..wait for it soon

  • @thommccarthy1139
    @thommccarthy1139 6 дней назад +1

    Honestly surprised a politician knows what the hell compute power is

  • @livefree1030
    @livefree1030 6 дней назад +2

    And ChatGPT can?
    DeepSeek can be taken offline permanently and built on. Meaning the CCP loses access.
    OpenAI doesn't offer Open Source Code

  • @FredAureus
    @FredAureus 8 дней назад +12

    Someone is worried about his nVidia shares...

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 7 дней назад

      oh boy he's going to be in for the shock of his life when in a few years china finally breaks through the EUV blockade.

  • @jahkarimirza7286
    @jahkarimirza7286 8 дней назад +12

    Competition is good.

  • @Temporary.life4321
    @Temporary.life4321 8 дней назад +13

    As if cia and fbi can be trusted 😂 more propaganda pls😂

  • @luxuryblues
    @luxuryblues 7 дней назад +4

    Obviously this guy is as clueless as a doorknob. It's open source dumbbell. You can run it on your laptop, in your server, close off any external traffic - do whatever you want with it. But of course - lets continue with your narrative 😀

  • @CW-yg7qm
    @CW-yg7qm 7 дней назад +2

    Why compete to win? Why not cooperate and work together for the betterment of mankind?

  • @douglaswong8610
    @douglaswong8610 8 дней назад +6

    You just forgot, remember the saying that China copying
    Well, perhaps
    Now they are not copying, they are just multiplying infinitely
    You went from 0 to 1
    Chinese took off from 2 to infinity

  • @jukesters123
    @jukesters123 8 дней назад +11

    LMAO,p-off .Deepseek must be banned now???

    • @Mor4me
      @Mor4me 8 дней назад +1

      Exactly ‼️
      and where does it end?

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 8 дней назад +1

      They can't, it is open source.

    • @eleghari
      @eleghari 8 дней назад +1

      Or increase what it charges by a factor of hundred and give them 75% 🤭

  • @EbbaPaps
    @EbbaPaps 6 дней назад +1

    It's open source. Still better than Open AI who began open and chose to close >:(

  • @callas60
    @callas60 6 дней назад +1

    The hosts' arrogance, ignorance and conceit reveal their inner concerns and fears about China.

  • @joelbautista46
    @joelbautista46 8 дней назад +26

    Can chat gpt be trusted?...

  • @aeva69
    @aeva69 8 дней назад +9

    Make OpenAI code open so can be audited

  • @adamurbanik7545
    @adamurbanik7545 8 дней назад +14

    In case you don’t know, the best is yet to come🎉

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 7 дней назад

      They have discovered teleportation.