Definitely digging the orange rims on the nameless, I like a luggy looking tire so the canyon trails fit the bill. Awesome video and as always thanks for your efforts.
Fascinating comparison, recently picked up some fossils on the back of your review. I’ve got a Sendero SE which is setup similar to baseline, I now want a set of S1 canyon trails as I prefer the slightly smaller size and they look to perform really well!
I just measured the worn in Canyon Trails that are Baseline's everyday tire, and they've "relaxed" down to 4.5" tall. I'm not ashamed to say that my favorite overall tire is the Canyon Trail. They're impossibly good for how cheap they are.
@@CrawlerCanyon Even better, I’ve always preferred the 4.45 size tyre as a nice sweet spot especially on a more scale looking truck body, but the choice of tyres in that size is very limited and not many decent options, Boomracing Hustlers as a prime example 🤮
How they perform on soil..sand mud etc. I am more off a trail guy..treu the woods,bit of sand,mud etc.. Rocks are nice but with my scalers I like to keep it a bit real driving wise..
You'd be hard-pressed to find a tire that cannot competently trail. That said, "Big lugs, lots of space" are the recommended-- Deep Woods (Champs,) Canyon Trails, Swampers, etc.
I think generally speaking getting to 60-40% weight front to back and keep it as light as possible… remove all unnecessary weight and add as little to the front tires/portals as possible to hit 60-40
I don't think total vehicle weight matters much at all (I mean, within reason) and the F/R split isn't as important as people make it out to be. There are rigs that hit 60/40 stock out of the box and still climb like crap. I contend that the percentage of unsprung to sprung is the most important number.
I need help with the rhino esc. It will not take throttle commands. It just beeps slowly. Sorry I don't know where to post questions unrelated to the subject. What am I doing wrong?
I'm gonna guess that the neutral range on the transmitter is something that the ESC doesn't like-- are you using an "older" radio? It's a quick test, at any rate: just keep dialing throttle trim up until something happens. I'm still using a Sanwa MX-3X with Daphne, and have to have the throttle trim at +90 for the ESC to "see" it. That's my early morning guess.
@@CrawlerCanyon You my friend are correct. It was the TQ Traxxas radio that came with the truck🤒. I'm currently surfing Amazon for the right radio link. Any suggestions sir. Thank you for all you do.
@@brianmorrison2846 My most-bought radio, the RC4GS. amzn.to/43zXQeC. Unless you've got the full-boat TRX-4 with lockers, then RC6GS. amzn.to/45IRI5A I have waaaaaay more 4's than 6's, because I just don't need that many channels for most rigs. The two 3-position toggles on the RC6 are SUPER nice for lockers, though.
Just a thought, but if you're going to create a light weight rig, then you need something beside double stiff hair buns for your tires. I understand being cheap, but you're sacrificing traction for climbing for the occasional stability while side-hilling. It is not a good tire test unless the inserts are of a comp testing quality. Yes? Double Hairbuns may be cheap, but they offer very little in the flex department for a light rig while climbing. It would be a great comparison test between the two tires with some soft 3D printed inserts! I love watching your daily installments!
@@brianmassey7563 Maybe some mediums for the canyon crawlers and soft for the fossils. I got a set of the fossils and the compound is a little more firm. Hairbuns may be good in a pinch but for the canyon viewers that like the test's.......C'mon!
This guy weighs 6.4lbs. There are no lightweight rigs in the Canyon fleet. Also, the performance of a properly fitting 3D-printed insert is about 10% better than a double bun-- and I'd qualify that with an "if even that." While I think that 3D inserts are quite likely the future, they're still too expensive, stunningly lacking in versatility (we used to have to pick the density of a foam based on rig weight, now a 3D insert only fits a few or even just one tire) and did I mention too expensive? The printed insert is power creep brought into a market segment. Most people simply do not need them. I've tested Tusks side-by-side, one set with Squidn'serts and the other with double buns, and it was close. I'd put Baseline's Canyon Trail setup up against 4.65" tire, without caring what's inside it. I've said before, if a person owns ONE rig, sure, might as well go for the nuclear option and put some Squidn'serts on it. I have 114 tires . As a typical printed insert is 13-15 bucks a pop...😳
@@CrawlerCanyon I do agree, but since I've started printing my own I don't fall in to that "density isn't correct for rig" issue as I'd just adjust the print to match the rig. I don't have double buns to test against, but all the comp guys around here have slowly switched to soft printed inserts, including me. I do have some large and small buns, and some TinTin dual stage so I think I can make the "double bun"...???
@@CrawlerCanyon I understand the cost factor, as I already stated in my comment. There are size and compound options for the various inserts. Your double buns offer very little flex while climbing. Most of the time your rear tires never squat at all. You do an average of 11 hill climbs and one side hill??? The double buns don't flex while going up or going across. Maybe you could save some more money by going to a single hair bun and give the other to a friend. I will never claim to be an expert crawler by any circumstances. But what I am good at is learning. The tires that get the best traction are typically the tires with the softest foam or inserts. Just say'n......thanks for understanding.
I would say every one of them has a strip of Gorilla Tape across the back of the cab, about 3/4" below the window-- because that's where my body mounts come through, and the Creep(er) isn't super thick in that area. Otherwise, they hold up pretty great. Especially for 25 bucks.
On a metal beadlock, the difference is huge. Most every plastic wheel I've seen has had vent holes in it, so the foam is doing it's job properly. I vent every tire through the carcass, because stuff is going to get in there no matter what-- whether it's dirt, sand, water, or whatever else, it will find it's way in. With holes though the tread, that stuff can find it's way back out.
I must have missed something........ What's up with Proline? I honestly don't know or missed that discussion. I do think there pricing for what is provided is a little high but so are 95% of the more "quality" products. Not being a smartass or trying to start anything, I honestly don't know. If there is a video about it I would love to know what one it is so I can see it too 😂😁
I get asked so often I've managed to get the response pretty compact: apocalyptically bad customer service, overpriced, engineered obsolescence. Also, the bodies are made out of the flimsiest polycarbonate known to man.
@@CrawlerCanyon Thanks for the response and I agree with all you said. I do have 2 Proline Bodies the Cliffhanger ones and the Hyraxx Tires work good on the mixed Roots, River Rock and Dirt hear in NC but the Duratrax Fossil have now got those beat and have homes on 9 of my families Rigs. I also like the Tusks but they are hard to find some times. Proline would have some decent bodies if they would use a Polycarbonate like JConcepts. There shocks are decent but WAAAAAY overpriced. That was my opinion on them, I just didn't know if you had it out with one of there Humans with no Soul that work for them 🤣
I would like to know what are the best (various mm) 1/10 shocks on Amazon. I've bought 2 sets already. Both garbage. There has to be one that you recommend.
The only sorta okay Amazon shock I've found to date are these: amzn.to/3OQXtZ2 because they seem to be an absolute copy of the same damper from RC4WD. Like... identical. Yeah, you gotta fill 'em with diff fluid, but they do work. They come in a bunch of different lengths, and most importantly, they're cheap. I think the Traxxas GTS (TRX-4 stock shock) is one of the absolute best for the money, about $40 a set from Jenny's RC-- the sole drawback being that they only come in 90mm. The Long Arm are the same thing but 110s, meaning limited utility, and they're harder to find cheap. Then you've got the Traxxas Big Bore, which is a superb shock, and why it's largely unchanged for 15 years. Multiple lengths (roughly 80-90-100) and can be run with "conventional" full-size springs or mini springs (Losi Mini-T, Dravtech, Enduro SE) for all the spring tuning options you could want. I'm running several sets of the TRA2660s, which are the "long" version, roughly 90mm long.
I think this guy just benefits a little more from the traction profile of the S1s, but that might go out the window when I narrow his track. Every variable makes another variable.
Tusk and Deepwoods are available!🎉
Remember folks efficiency is clever laziness
Definitely digging the orange rims on the nameless, I like a luggy looking tire so the canyon trails fit the bill. Awesome video and as always thanks for your efforts.
They do look so good.
Just got some gifted to me by a good friend, was going to buy them and he was just happy I'm getting back into the hobby so he gave them for free.🤝🤙
Love your course, Yep we’re here watching two days later just found it.
Also I love the Orange Wheels also. They look so good in that Rig.
Love the Fossils I run them on my Bushido, getting ready to put Antifoams in them
I think all the new "High Lift" TRX4s come with the S1 compound in the sought-after 2.2-5.3" size.
I think the fossil stock foam vs s1’s. Might be closer.
Fascinating comparison, recently picked up some fossils on the back of your review. I’ve got a Sendero SE which is setup similar to baseline, I now want a set of S1 canyon trails as I prefer the slightly smaller size and they look to perform really well!
I just measured the worn in Canyon Trails that are Baseline's everyday tire, and they've "relaxed" down to 4.5" tall. I'm not ashamed to say that my favorite overall tire is the Canyon Trail. They're impossibly good for how cheap they are.
@@CrawlerCanyon Even better, I’ve always preferred the 4.45 size tyre as a nice sweet spot especially on a more scale looking truck body, but the choice of tyres in that size is very limited and not many decent options, Boomracing Hustlers as a prime example 🤮
All i can think about now is a Crawler Canyon video game, it works on so many levels 🤓
Loving the content CC please continue to entertain and educate us
How they perform on soil..sand mud etc.
I am more off a trail guy..treu the woods,bit of sand,mud etc..
Rocks are nice but with my scalers I like to keep it a bit real driving wise..
You'd be hard-pressed to find a tire that cannot competently trail. That said, "Big lugs, lots of space" are the recommended-- Deep Woods (Champs,) Canyon Trails, Swampers, etc.
I've tried adding rear weight and it always seems to hurt climbing.
I think generally speaking getting to 60-40% weight front to back and keep it as light as possible… remove all unnecessary weight and add as little to the front tires/portals as possible to hit 60-40
I don't think total vehicle weight matters much at all (I mean, within reason) and the F/R split isn't as important as people make it out to be. There are rigs that hit 60/40 stock out of the box and still climb like crap. I contend that the percentage of unsprung to sprung is the most important number.
Yeah a little high five love it, will watch for the next one until then peace and chicken grease 😁👍👍😎
I need help with the rhino esc. It will not take throttle commands. It just beeps slowly. Sorry I don't know where to post questions unrelated to the subject. What am I doing wrong?
I'm gonna guess that the neutral range on the transmitter is something that the ESC doesn't like-- are you using an "older" radio?
It's a quick test, at any rate: just keep dialing throttle trim up until something happens. I'm still using a Sanwa MX-3X with Daphne, and have to have the throttle trim at +90 for the ESC to "see" it. That's my early morning guess.
@@CrawlerCanyon You my friend are correct. It was the TQ Traxxas radio that came with the truck🤒. I'm currently surfing Amazon for the right radio link. Any suggestions sir. Thank you for all you do.
@@brianmorrison2846 My most-bought radio, the RC4GS. amzn.to/43zXQeC. Unless you've got the full-boat TRX-4 with lockers, then RC6GS. amzn.to/45IRI5A
I have waaaaaay more 4's than 6's, because I just don't need that many channels for most rigs. The two 3-position toggles on the RC6 are SUPER nice for lockers, though.
Is there a double bun video to watch? I've been here for a little while now and still don't know all the details of the DB set up.
ruclips.net/video/ZQiax-MfT_A/видео.html
Just a thought, but if you're going to create a light weight rig, then you need something beside double stiff hair buns for your tires. I understand being cheap, but you're sacrificing traction for climbing for the occasional stability while side-hilling. It is not a good tire test unless the inserts are of a comp testing quality. Yes? Double Hairbuns may be cheap, but they offer very little in the flex department for a light rig while climbing. It would be a great comparison test between the two tires with some soft 3D printed inserts! I love watching your daily installments!
he has some AntiFoams that should be soft enough to test that.... I agree though, soft printed insert on a light rig is great for forward drive.
@@brianmassey7563 Maybe some mediums for the canyon crawlers and soft for the fossils. I got a set of the fossils and the compound is a little more firm. Hairbuns may be good in a pinch but for the canyon viewers that like the test's.......C'mon!
This guy weighs 6.4lbs. There are no lightweight rigs in the Canyon fleet. Also, the performance of a properly fitting 3D-printed insert is about 10% better than a double bun-- and I'd qualify that with an "if even that." While I think that 3D inserts are quite likely the future, they're still too expensive, stunningly lacking in versatility (we used to have to pick the density of a foam based on rig weight, now a 3D insert only fits a few or even just one tire) and did I mention too expensive? The printed insert is power creep brought into a market segment. Most people simply do not need them.
I've tested Tusks side-by-side, one set with Squidn'serts and the other with double buns, and it was close. I'd put Baseline's Canyon Trail setup up against 4.65" tire, without caring what's inside it. I've said before, if a person owns ONE rig, sure, might as well go for the nuclear option and put some Squidn'serts on it. I have 114 tires . As a typical printed insert is 13-15 bucks a pop...😳
@@CrawlerCanyon I do agree, but since I've started printing my own I don't fall in to that "density isn't correct for rig" issue as I'd just adjust the print to match the rig. I don't have double buns to test against, but all the comp guys around here have slowly switched to soft printed inserts, including me. I do have some large and small buns, and some TinTin dual stage so I think I can make the "double bun"...???
@@CrawlerCanyon I understand the cost factor, as I already stated in my comment. There are size and compound options for the various inserts. Your double buns offer very little flex while climbing. Most of the time your rear tires never squat at all. You do an average of 11 hill climbs and one side hill??? The double buns don't flex while going up or going across. Maybe you could save some more money by going to a single hair bun and give the other to a friend. I will never claim to be an expert crawler by any circumstances. But what I am good at is learning. The tires that get the best traction are typically the tires with the softest foam or inserts. Just say'n......thanks for understanding.
how well does that creep cab only hold up for you brother ?
I would say every one of them has a strip of Gorilla Tape across the back of the cab, about 3/4" below the window-- because that's where my body mounts come through, and the Creep(er) isn't super thick in that area. Otherwise, they hold up pretty great. Especially for 25 bucks.
How much softer are the s1s than stock canyon trails? I loooove my cut canyon trails on metal beadlocks + antifoams
I put the compound somewhere between Duratrax C3 and JConcepts Green. Compared to an RTR Canyon Trail? REALLY soft.
What's the difference you see with the tire vent holes? I haven't punched mine yet and curious how much it's worth it?
On a metal beadlock, the difference is huge. Most every plastic wheel I've seen has had vent holes in it, so the foam is doing it's job properly.
I vent every tire through the carcass, because stuff is going to get in there no matter what-- whether it's dirt, sand, water, or whatever else, it will find it's way in. With holes though the tread, that stuff can find it's way back out.
Fun.....
Do you have a link to order double buns?
Dual stage foams (you need the blue part) amzn.to/3MQjX9P
Medium hair buns amzn.to/3MGWIz6
I must have missed something........
What's up with Proline? I honestly don't know or missed that discussion. I do think there pricing for what is provided is a little high but so are 95% of the more "quality" products.
Not being a smartass or trying to start anything, I honestly don't know. If there is a video about it I would love to know what one it is so I can see it too 😂😁
I get asked so often I've managed to get the response pretty compact: apocalyptically bad customer service, overpriced, engineered obsolescence. Also, the bodies are made out of the flimsiest polycarbonate known to man.
@@CrawlerCanyon Thanks for the response and I agree with all you said. I do have 2 Proline Bodies the Cliffhanger ones and the Hyraxx Tires work good on the mixed Roots, River Rock and Dirt hear in NC but the Duratrax Fossil have now got those beat and have homes on 9 of my families Rigs. I also like the Tusks but they are hard to find some times.
Proline would have some decent bodies if they would use a Polycarbonate like JConcepts. There shocks are decent but WAAAAAY overpriced.
That was my opinion on them, I just didn't know if you had it out with one of there Humans with no Soul that work for them 🤣
I would like to know what are the best (various mm) 1/10 shocks on Amazon. I've bought 2 sets already. Both garbage. There has to be one that you recommend.
The only sorta okay Amazon shock I've found to date are these: amzn.to/3OQXtZ2 because they seem to be an absolute copy of the same damper from RC4WD. Like... identical. Yeah, you gotta fill 'em with diff fluid, but they do work. They come in a bunch of different lengths, and most importantly, they're cheap.
I think the Traxxas GTS (TRX-4 stock shock) is one of the absolute best for the money, about $40 a set from Jenny's RC-- the sole drawback being that they only come in 90mm. The Long Arm are the same thing but 110s, meaning limited utility, and they're harder to find cheap.
Then you've got the Traxxas Big Bore, which is a superb shock, and why it's largely unchanged for 15 years. Multiple lengths (roughly 80-90-100) and can be run with "conventional" full-size springs or mini springs (Losi Mini-T, Dravtech, Enduro SE) for all the spring tuning options you could want. I'm running several sets of the TRA2660s, which are the "long" version, roughly 90mm long.
Thank you sir.
Please enlightening me: you're talking in several vids about cut tyres... What is that?
You cut certain lugs in the tread to get more grip.
ruclips.net/video/bcTY3eHDVp0/видео.html
he is now called "the dark-force"- i am building one myself on 10iii straight axles -but everything else is the same
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nameless should be called toothless, the little black beast with hidden bite
Damn. That's pretty good.
Gotta say it is a close one between Fossils and S1 Canyons, but I have to say the in my experience the S1's win out, especially on stock foams
I think this guy just benefits a little more from the traction profile of the S1s, but that might go out the window when I narrow his track. Every variable makes another variable.