he forgot that a while back he gave evidence in fields that he was not an expert...2 percent DNA ....He even had to be reminded by Advocate Mnisi and Mshololo that he is merely a police officer, ya neh Gininda.
12:24😳😳😳Mr Baloyi is in a process of establishing the mere existence of a statement at this stage in the case? Mind you this is his final witness.😂I cannot believe this,but I put it to you, it doesn’t exist 😂😂😂😂😂and I wouldn’t be surprised if it miraculously showed up tomorrow with todays date on the commissioned stamp😂😂😂😂with a brand new witness
@@qhamanoveve9076 its disclosed to the defense it's in the docket but Steyn's affidavit was originally 400 pages but he had to summarize it to less pages for court purposes. Mnisi will regret asking for that statement but it will be too late to retract it makabuze uMngo.Ratha will not let it go .Allegedly
@@Chibvunza but I also think that as a lead prosecutor he should atleast know that such a statement exists. Why did he not respond as such to the judge when he was asked? Because my comments are based on his response. For Brigadier Gininda to respond while being a witness on the stand is telling. Baloyi’s role is being usurped by the witness. He is not an IO on the stand but a witness. And for a person with 30 years in the game, he should know how to conduct himself in court especially when he’s under cross.
@qhamanoveve9076 Gininda sings this case more than his LLB notes . Baloyi will come tell the court that he has the statement but Brig interpreted it differently to his understanding but let's wait for tomorrow 🫡
Gininda was sitting in his office matching the dots on all affidavits like a 5yr old playing puzzles 🚮🚮🚮Zero investigation Zilch.. Fitting and matching whatever day dreaming hallucinations of this case 🚮🚮
Nthabiseng saw the so called suspects running towards the park but she does not mention the so called silver Polo that is said to driven by acc5 that was alleged to be the getaway car parked in front of the Khumalo house. Lol 😂😂 so many versions lies have very short legs...😊
@ithabelengmotlhabane464 from where Nthabiseng's house is and Kelly is about 600m and it's not a straight route but it bends I can take you there when you have time or just use Google maps
@ithabelengmotlhabane464 no one ever said the polo was park infront of the gate but witnesses saw a car dropping off these guys by the danger box before taking off ,Simphiwe described it as a green sedan it was dark asaz but Nthabiseng Mokete, Stanly Ngcatshe ,Yolanda Notha ,Simphiwe Ngwenya and Thabang Makelane saw that these guys were running on foot to the direction of the park 600m away . there's a curve it's not a straight road , you can't see the park from kelly 's not unless you climb on the roof .Allegedly
Ok. Gininda agrees he's not a DNA experts but want to elaborate, but want the court to be convinced that Tumelo cant explain the 🔫 he's not experts ka jane.
This is one of the most competent investigators i have ever seen in my life and he reminds me of a seasoned police official of Organised Crime in Mthatha who is very dilligent and has a high success rate in serious crimes....Like murder, robbery, contract killings, Taxi Wars you name them....Note made on 13/11/2024
Unfortunately you're telling the wrong pple who are very wise to see hogwashness of your so called competent investigator,some of us can't be fooled by such a biased comment
@nothandolondeka we have a case, we have 10 eye witnesses statements that described Mncube even the clothes he was wearing ,we have the murder weapon,we have Constable Zungu's statement who was with them , we have Sifiso Zungu who was with them ,absolome Zungu who was in the meeting aired by Muzi's father about hiding information about this hit .Ntanzi is already convicted by his 2 confessions 2 dock identifification by people that were in the house , he deposited money he got paid for this hit into his bank .Muzi is already convicted by his confession +pointimg out 3.Mncube is convicted the firearm that matches the projectile that killed Senzi 5.Is convicted by his car being described as a getaway vehicle+being a coordinator of this hit .he is linked by means of cellphone linkages with all the accused, so they will be charged in common purpose or acting as a gang the state will put it in its closing arguments .We are cruising 10-0 here .Allegedly
Shamase, Bovungana, Sibisi andivumi ...this guy knows his story....trust me, the court will lean towards his evidence a lot in it's finding...13/11/2024
I ll never move an inch from what m saying...this Brig knows his job very well....and has passion for investigation. M aware that m going to be criticised left right and centre....15/11/2024
That garage question by the judge was crucial. “Makaleni saw them at the gas station in a car” the same Makaleni “took note of the people outside the Khumalo’s house when he was passing” the same Makaleni “while making his way back from where he was coming from was alerted of people running to be the same people he saw outside the Khumalo’s house” ????????
I wonder how possible that you can c someone s gold teeth in the upper lip while you are at the distance and not sure if there was really a gun on his hand, very interesting
Ppl should be told not to comment if they haven't been following the entire trial because it makes us think they're lost a bit. Experts have been called in to testify including witnesses and the defence team failed to defend their clients due to undeniable evidence testified by the experts, i.e. Vodacom, tracker, ballistics, witnesses etc. So, what is it is the defence trying put or solicitate from Gininda or they're being told to do whatever tactic to delay the court from reaching it's verdict by asking all the irrelevant questions to Gininda hence they had plenty time to cross examine the experts and the witnesses. To me the defence team is just doing time waisting. So, please Kelly Khumalos fans just back off you don't have anything to say.
@thebemakhombe9679 Cons Zungu told them that an empty 38 was present but didn't have bullets and those guns were given to Sifiso Gwabini by Mncube+Muzi.Guess what general Gininda did ?he went to Sifiso Gwabini to comfirm this and for him to make a statement under Oath which he did 🫡.If there's still anyone at all in SA who believe that these guys didn't kill Senzo bathengwe wu Kelly Comfirmed by 3 people so far nathi ama South African kdala simnuka uKelly wuye vele .Allegedly
Adv Rams you started well last week but now your too soft you allow yo much explanation as if it is examination in chief. Advise the witness to answer the question not reaching examples
Ramasipile raised that issue but gininda continues and the advocate can't interrupt gininda whilst talking the person who can control this is the interpreter by saying woh this is long information to be interpreted otherwise the interpreter is going to end up missing some important words due essay from gininda
Mogane never wanted to commit herself she maintained that it was gininda who was conducting everything she was never assigned to anything she was just following 🤔🤔🤔🤔
So you are not picking up how he is distorting evidence already given the court by other witnesses. Gininda is talking too much to a point he is putting many holes to the state case.
Basically When millions of South Africans including their manic advocate who whr calling for the 375 doket and ignorance of this current docket ,wher literally calling for us to ignore murder case against Senzo rather focus on defeating the end of justice against those who whr in the house🙊🙊wow South Africa for you 🤦♂️
You are right. If they chose docket 375 first these guys were gonna walk out free from this case. And 375 was gonna sentence those who were in the house six months. This case was planned
Docket 375 was read in Maumela'a court and it is defeating the ends of justice plus conspiracy to murder but go ahead & listen to your stupid investigator & believe everything he says before other people are called to the stand & weshall see who is the ignorant & stupid ones between you & us.
Makalane was the best and gave the best description that's why they got him killed .Kelly bought Makelane's girlfriend to poison him and clean before calling the police because he was onto them and Kelly didn't want this case to be solved. ALLEGEDLY
@walterndlovu-f2f No doubt and she will pay .I did read that she's officially a Sangoma and plans to travel the world ngapha uthwele ngo Senzo I just finsh Senzo's mom can listen to the sms exchange to hear how she hated Senzo ayeke ukulalela uSifiso Odom.Allegedly
Yes he is competent and I respect that. But at this time he is respond responding to questions posed instead he acts as if he is leading evidebce instead of sticking to the question. If he can just respond directly he will save us time
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Ghininda answer questions he is never asked Aiy he just like to hear himself talk. Ramosepele didn't ask him anything at the end he answered without being asked
@NqobileNgcobo-h5d they were traumatized they could remember less features of the intruders,but the person outside before the incident took place was in a clear state of mind to look at these suspicious guys he'd never seen texting near the electricity box ekasi lakhe
Mapholoba uyaphazama....bakwazile ngoba 02 yabantu ababesendli Zandie and Tumelo Madlala were able to see or identify Accused No2 and he also places himself inside the house in his 02 confessions. ...13/11/2024
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Remember the other evidence they built as the case was going always reaponding to doubt cast by attorneys that is why he sounds like he knows...if the jidge was a fair judge he would allow that new evidence
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I'm currently at 1:23:00 : Mr Ramosepele (Apologies if I've butchered the spelling of his surname) present his profession as a "Profession", a whole lot..DONT!!
One day Gerrie Nel said to dumb Sifiso meyiwa "if you know someone is lying you must atleast know what the truth is " so lots of you say Gininda is lying but you don't know what the truth is ubusy nentsomi ebizwa 375 .Allegedly
@Tshegofatso1994 here is the thing Tumelo was facing the kitchen door when the first shot went off and Muzi rushed in carrying an empty revolver that's when Tumelo rushed back to go hide in the room,he saw the front part of gun carried by Muzi its a revolver but it was empty Gwabini confirmed 2.Mthoko was in the kitchen and when the first shot went off in that Sphithi phiti he saw a empty revolver carried by Muzi 3.When Mncube shot the tile that projectile couldn't be removed easily without tool until experts showed up and that damaged projectile found in the tiles is(CMJ same brand as the ones found on Mncube's wardrope her girlfriend miss Tefu testified not planted )it's identical to the one found on the sink identified by Nthabiseng Mokete scientific evidence says it's a 9mm 4.DNA and fingerprint were not found because the handle that they touched was touched by several other people that came to the scene and so is the hat and other items they left with were never recovered .Cellphone evidence puts Mncube on the vicinity even if it's not 100% precise and Zungu links them to be with him via pictures taken on the day at Basothwin,red polo ,bank transaction of Mncube at tops on the day and confessions. This evidence is enough for Ratha to write a judgement tomorrow. ALLEGEDLY
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i get bored by ramasepele by not asking follow up questions after, a long answer, he ask and leave things hanging with no clarity
Seems like this Gininda guy has many victims serving sentences for the crimes they didn't commit watching from Texas USA
They couldn't chaza the 2nd suspect cos there was none
Ncamisile
I've never seen such a dumb comment like this one, you clearly don't have matric to comprehend what is happening in this court.
To know what a car looks like is a person doesn't need to have a drivers license
You need affidavit 😂😂😂😂
Lol😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂The most stupidest response from a supposedly highly decorated officer of the law🤔🤦♂️👨⚖️👨⚖️Proved that he is such a clown 🤡🤡🤡🚮🚮🚮
he forgot that a while back he gave evidence in fields that he was not an expert...2 percent DNA ....He even had to be reminded by Advocate Mnisi and Mshololo that he is merely a police officer, ya neh Gininda.
Hahaha😂😂😂
He’s been so calm during baloyi cross examination with Gininda, now it’s time for defence he’s getting irritated.
GININDA thought he outsmarted everyone 😅😅😅
He can't see that we are not buying his story even Mnisi is craving for him
12:24😳😳😳Mr Baloyi is in a process of establishing the mere existence of a statement at this stage in the case? Mind you this is his final witness.😂I cannot believe this,but I put it to you, it doesn’t exist 😂😂😂😂😂and I wouldn’t be surprised if it miraculously showed up tomorrow with todays date on the commissioned stamp😂😂😂😂with a brand new witness
@@qhamanoveve9076 its disclosed to the defense it's in the docket but Steyn's affidavit was originally 400 pages but he had to summarize it to less pages for court purposes. Mnisi will regret asking for that statement but it will be too late to retract it makabuze uMngo.Ratha will not let it go .Allegedly
@ sharp👍
@@Chibvunza but I also think that as a lead prosecutor he should atleast know that such a statement exists. Why did he not respond as such to the judge when he was asked? Because my comments are based on his response. For Brigadier Gininda to respond while being a witness on the stand is telling. Baloyi’s role is being usurped by the witness. He is not an IO on the stand but a witness. And for a person with 30 years in the game, he should know how to conduct himself in court especially when he’s under cross.
@qhamanoveve9076 Gininda sings this case more than his LLB notes . Baloyi will come tell the court that he has the statement but Brig interpreted it differently to his understanding but let's wait for tomorrow 🫡
@@Chibvunzawhat you're smoking is too strong for you change it
Gininda was sitting in his office matching the dots on all affidavits like a 5yr old playing puzzles 🚮🚮🚮Zero investigation Zilch.. Fitting and matching whatever day dreaming hallucinations of this case 🚮🚮
Nthabiseng saw the so called suspects running towards the park but she does not mention the so called silver Polo that is said to driven by acc5 that was alleged to be the getaway car parked in front of the Khumalo house. Lol 😂😂 so many versions lies have very short legs...😊
@ithabelengmotlhabane464 from where Nthabiseng's house is and Kelly is about 600m and it's not a straight route but it bends I can take you there when you have time or just use Google maps
@ithabelengmotlhabane464 no one ever said the polo was park infront of the gate but witnesses saw a car dropping off these guys by the danger box before taking off ,Simphiwe described it as a green sedan it was dark asaz but Nthabiseng Mokete, Stanly Ngcatshe ,Yolanda Notha ,Simphiwe Ngwenya and Thabang Makelane saw that these guys were running on foot to the direction of the park 600m away . there's a curve it's not a straight road , you can't see the park from kelly 's not unless you climb on the roof .Allegedly
@Chibvunza thanks
@@Chibvunza
Nthabiseng heard the 3rd shot after the supposed suspects had passed. Who shot the third shot.
The Polo was not parked Infront of Khumalos house but at a corner towards the park where the suspects ran to after the shooting...14/11/2024
Ok. Gininda agrees he's not a DNA experts but want to elaborate, but want the court to be convinced that Tumelo cant explain the 🔫 he's not experts ka jane.
Gininda is working for who because he never do anything he speaks about others police officer statement
This is one of the most competent investigators i have ever seen in my life and he reminds me of a seasoned police official of Organised Crime in Mthatha who is very dilligent and has a high success rate in serious crimes....Like murder, robbery, contract killings, Taxi Wars you name them....Note made on 13/11/2024
Unfortunately you're telling the wrong pple who are very wise to see hogwashness of your so called competent investigator,some of us can't be fooled by such a biased comment
Very intelligent he answers your question before you even ask it
@@njabulojb2994😂😂
Time will tell Njabulo.....but this evidence is very important....and Brig BN Gininda answers forthright without hesitation.....13/11/2024
Isigebengu lesi ubaqedile abantu ubugebengu ubazi bonke usebenzisana nama judge n prosecutors ase ethopia
This gininda wants the accused behind the bars irrespective he has nothing at hand to produce.
The state has no case bakithi
@nothandolondeka we have a case, we have 10 eye witnesses statements that described Mncube even the clothes he was wearing ,we have the murder weapon,we have Constable Zungu's statement who was with them , we have Sifiso Zungu who was with them ,absolome Zungu who was in the meeting aired by Muzi's father about hiding information about this hit .Ntanzi is already convicted by his 2 confessions 2 dock identifification by people that were in the house , he deposited money he got paid for this hit into his bank .Muzi is already convicted by his confession +pointimg out 3.Mncube is convicted the firearm that matches the projectile that killed Senzi 5.Is convicted by his car being described as a getaway vehicle+being a coordinator of this hit .he is linked by means of cellphone linkages with all the accused, so they will be charged in common purpose or acting as a gang the state will put it in its closing arguments .We are cruising 10-0 here .Allegedly
Why judge block Gininda from answering..rushing to say whts the time its rises...since when hes the asking time for rises
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thus court neh, ge saved him?
Now G is a dentist, I give up 🤣🤣🤣
Hi Neo how are you fancyface
aya yaya, does this still make sense ro the friends of the state?
Gininda is just like my ex husband, he speaks and sounds intelligent but when you listen with an investigative ear, it’s all hogwas 😂
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Exactly
Shamase, Bovungana, Sibisi andivumi ...this guy knows his story....trust me, the court will lean towards his evidence a lot in it's finding...13/11/2024
Why took him to the doctor after the confession?
True
Gininda does not know his role
Andivumi Ndosi....this police official is very competent, diligent and passionate police official...14/11/2024
. 😂😂😂😂😂 yhooo this kind of thinking
I ll never move an inch from what m saying...this Brig knows his job very well....and has passion for investigation. M aware that m going to be criticised left right and centre....15/11/2024
Tumelo Madlala & Zandi Khumalo testimonies do not coincide with Brigadier Gininda's findings, someone's lying.
Seems like Ntanzi was happy to see Mr Ramz😊😊😊
Long long answers from Gininda.you can see that he’s trying by all means to cover up something
That garage question by the judge was crucial. “Makaleni saw them at the gas station in a car” the same Makaleni “took note of the people outside the Khumalo’s house when he was passing” the same Makaleni “while making his way back from where he was coming from was alerted of people running to be the same people he saw outside the Khumalo’s house” ????????
I heard Gininda saying he’s not cellphone expert, he’s now seems like he’s a DNA expert. Kahle kahle Gininda u yini?😂
He's a police man this one 😂
I wonder how possible that you can c someone s gold teeth in the upper lip while you are at the distance and not sure if there was really a gun on his hand, very interesting
Ppl should be told not to comment if they haven't been following the entire trial because it makes us think they're lost a bit. Experts have been called in to testify including witnesses and the defence team failed to defend their clients due to undeniable evidence testified by the experts, i.e. Vodacom, tracker, ballistics, witnesses etc. So, what is it is the defence trying put or solicitate from Gininda or they're being told to do whatever tactic to delay the court from reaching it's verdict by asking all the irrelevant questions to Gininda hence they had plenty time to cross examine the experts and the witnesses. To me the defence team is just doing time waisting. So, please Kelly Khumalos fans just back off you don't have anything to say.
I agree with Gininda that they don't have license to poses a firearm but they tell about what they SAW, A GUN WITH A WHEEL
@thebemakhombe9679 Cons Zungu told them that an empty 38 was present but didn't have bullets and those guns were given to Sifiso Gwabini by Mncube+Muzi.Guess what general Gininda did ?he went to Sifiso Gwabini to comfirm this and for him to make a statement under Oath which he did 🫡.If there's still anyone at all in SA who believe that these guys didn't kill Senzo bathengwe wu Kelly Comfirmed by 3 people so far nathi ama South African kdala simnuka uKelly wuye vele .Allegedly
Who said they saw a gun with a wheel??? Ramosepele can call Longwe so that he can come and tell us about the gun with the wheel
4:27:09 but they have led Mjiyakho evidence without being led by the so called Mjiyakho
Adv Rams you started well last week but now your too soft you allow yo much explanation as if it is examination in chief. Advise the witness to answer the question not reaching examples
I was saying the same thing, he allows him to getaway with everything. Gininda is not giving answers.
This is not just a witness it's a leading investigator he must explain
Ramasipile raised that issue but gininda continues and the advocate can't interrupt gininda whilst talking the person who can control this is the interpreter by saying woh this is long information to be interpreted otherwise the interpreter is going to end up missing some important words due essay from gininda
Mogane never wanted to commit herself she maintained that it was gininda who was conducting everything she was never assigned to anything she was just following 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Mogola😂. Mogane is the male cop
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27 October 2014 the minds were still fresh thy told the correct facts
Gininda is a brilliant officer in my opinion cos he answers without hesitation
So you are not picking up how he is distorting evidence already given the court by other witnesses. Gininda is talking too much to a point he is putting many holes to the state case.
What do you think about his opinion on the DNA issue?
Wemameh 😂😂😂😂
A fabrication is always well articulated, especially when considering his panics immediately when his lies are called out.
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1:24:41 Ramosepedi can be a great Adv, if he grow some balls
I haven't heard a liar like Gininda in my lifetime
This is real lier in the whole country until meet Mshololo, she will stop him in over explanation
Why do u say he is lying
I think you are the one who's lying about your views in this case
This guy is a worst pathological liar of note 😂😂😂😂
Basically When millions of South Africans including their manic advocate who whr calling for the 375 doket and ignorance of this current docket ,wher literally calling for us to ignore murder case against Senzo rather focus on defeating the end of justice against those who whr in the house🙊🙊wow South Africa for you 🤦♂️
You are right. If they chose docket 375 first these guys were gonna walk out free from this case. And 375 was gonna sentence those who were in the house six months. This case was planned
😂 U lost seriously
I fully embrace your point Sir coz 375 is just a smoke screen....and 636/10/2014 is a real thing...13/11/2024
@@ThembaMayekiso-vk7us lol true ..people loud here 375 ,375,375 yet they don’t know what is all about 🤦♂️
Docket 375 was read in Maumela'a court and it is defeating the ends of justice plus conspiracy to murder but go ahead & listen to your stupid investigator & believe everything he says before other people are called to the stand & weshall see who is the ignorant & stupid ones between you & us.
Baloyi is chiccos cousin
Yes
WHAT??@@TheTHANDOZI
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The gun that was used to kill senzo it might be baloyi gun bcs baloyi son killed himself with revolver
And where did you get this from? Sounds so juicy. Out with it. @@Masibigirigudani
But how did makaleng saw tooth gold during the night
Kahle boh
Mr Hogwash should come now, Rams is giving this lier a lot of time to respond
Rams, is not paying attention to his line of questioning, takes hearsay evidence into record, he's just messing up
He supposed to stop because he is allowing Gininda to over explanation
UmaKeleni okwazi ukukala umuntu egijima ebusuku aphinde abone iGoldtooth hayi bantu Gininda ukhona bo namanga akho
Makalane was the best and gave the best description that's why they got him killed .Kelly bought Makelane's girlfriend to poison him and clean before calling the police because he was onto them and Kelly didn't want this case to be solved. ALLEGEDLY
@@ChibvunzaKelly in collaboration with the accused knows something about this young man's death.
Makeleni is a ghost witness even his evidence.
Actually Makeleni has never existed. It's a ghost creature by gininda and his crew
@walterndlovu-f2f No doubt and she will pay .I did read that she's officially a Sangoma and plans to travel the world ngapha uthwele ngo Senzo I just finsh Senzo's mom can listen to the sms exchange to hear how she hated Senzo ayeke ukulalela uSifiso Odom.Allegedly
@nothandolondeka Its easy to say things you cannot even substantiate.
Ulongwe owokuqala owabaleka
U dont need a license to be able to determine a pick-up and sedan....
Labameli bamosha isikhathi ayikho lento yabo indendende
Qwabe ngendikuxhawula mfo if ubuseduze kwam.13/11/2024
Yes he is competent and I respect that. But at this time he is respond responding to questions posed instead he acts as if he is leading evidebce instead of sticking to the question. If he can just respond directly he will save us time
Kelly was in the kitchen when the intruder came in and on the other hand she was standing in the dining room demonstrating a certain church
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Ntanzi no gold tooth but Makeleni gave the exact features of Ntanzi. Height,gold tooth,dreadlocks and ntjebe.
Ramsipili goes off tangent.😢
That means Gininda didn't investigate anything but he only took statements from dockets..i wonder who investigated n wrote those statements
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Exactly he did nothing investigated by Gininda
What is this toxic relationship between Gininda and Verbatism?😂😂😂😂
Stop it 😂😂😂😂
Please fellow compatriots let's not make fun of a fellow African brother.... English is not our Mother tongue....13/11/2024
As I reccall the rooms were not very bright to recognise the intruders.😢😢😢
4:04: Gininda is fire
Did the Lead Investigator, ask Longwe as why he didn't call for help after leaving the house with his phone
I can't understand why the other police that was present on 17 state if Gninda was present or not😢😢?
Gininda need a license to be a DNA expert 😂😂😂😂
Ghininda answer questions he is never asked Aiy he just like to hear himself talk. Ramosepele didn't ask him anything at the end he answered without being asked
As investigator I don't believe on supplementary statements cs that's when the cooking of evidence starts
Abantu ababesendlini bakwazanga kubona basolwa kodwa babese mgwaqeni bakwazile 😮intenjani le 😅😅😅
@NqobileNgcobo-h5d they were traumatized they could remember less features of the intruders,but the person outside before the incident took place was in a clear state of mind to look at these suspicious guys he'd never seen texting near the electricity box ekasi lakhe
Mapholoba uyaphazama....bakwazile ngoba 02 yabantu ababesendli Zandie and Tumelo Madlala were able to see or identify Accused No2 and he also places himself inside the house in his 02 confessions. ...13/11/2024
Ngoba ababesendleni bebene trauma but outside bebemuka bengathukile simple as that
Explaining too much is a sign of lie. Ugininda unamanga
Tjo own goals scored by defence 😂😂😂 Gininda for president 😂😂😂
Ubuxoki buka Gininda bu worse
Not Gininda trying to lead his own cross examination 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Gininda is a chatter box like most liars and answers without thinking
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I disagree.....this is the most vital witness for the state....13/11/2024
Why these witnesses are hidden???
Can’t wait for you to be admitted as a lawyer Mr Gininda. May you be blessed for the great work you put in.
@@chidilebopo1091 😂😂😂😂😂😩
What a joke😂😂😂😂😂
Yaaaa surely we are watching different court processings
Indeed Chidi...this guy Brig BN Gininda is diligent, dedicated and competent police official..14/11/2024
He talk too much.. That what liars do.. No meaning to his statements
Guys, did you hear that term
SUBSEQUENT TO THAT
whose s using this term now and than
Which evidence do you want kodwa icacile gca ukuba ngubani owabulala UMeyiwa, iyacaca kudala wayihlela lo cc lento, yhuuu waza wangcola umfazi one talente entle kangaka, qhubeka uphumle ngoxolo mfo Ka Meyiwa, le mini iyeza nakubabulali bakho😭😭😭
Remember the other evidence they built as the case was going always reaponding to doubt cast by attorneys that is why he sounds like he knows...if the jidge was a fair judge he would allow that new evidence
Ey kodwa Gini mfanakithi ngeke noma kuthiwa isibhami awusazi kodwa ngeke ungasiboni ukuthi sinesondo or asinalo simple manje ufuna ukuthi labantu ngeke bakwazi ukuhlukanisa Bmw and Mercedes ey Gininda abanga azokubulala
Guys did you see Ramsepeles finger as Gininda khoroborethi people running away
🗣mr praaaya to that,npa,pidipidi le niknax dikêlêm they think re dibari shame on them🚮if it was that nyatsi ya segana e sulêng Nzori could have long been arrested without wasting time,we MUST stop abusing men ha go kgatlhê💔😭😭'o batla go nkêtsa pôpaye'🤣🙆🏿♀️
Retlo o tswara wena letswana 😂😂😂😂
@Chibvunza hahahahahahhahahaha am waiting babes
Ratha heard something about garage, but it's not in the docket
Makeleni's evidence is a hearsay
Nice if Gninda can prove where he was on 17th😢
the state's objection is senseless 😂😂
Ramosepele caught with his pants down😮😮😮
I'm currently at 1:23:00 : Mr Ramosepele (Apologies if I've butchered the spelling of his surname) present his profession as a "Profession", a whole lot..DONT!!
Baloi ha a dumele!! Tshela thupa Ramosepele🔥
help me please what makes gininda not to disclose that statement
Gininda Liiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss
One day Gerrie Nel said to dumb Sifiso meyiwa "if you know someone is lying you must atleast know what the truth is " so lots of you say Gininda is lying but you don't know what the truth is ubusy nentsomi ebizwa 375 .Allegedly
@@Chibvunzaactually I'm not on that. Gininda can't be against the revolver but be for the 2% DNA or gold tooth
@Tshegofatso1994 here is the thing Tumelo was facing the kitchen door when the first shot went off and Muzi rushed in carrying an empty revolver that's when Tumelo rushed back to go hide in the room,he saw the front part of gun carried by Muzi its a revolver but it was empty Gwabini confirmed 2.Mthoko was in the kitchen and when the first shot went off in that Sphithi phiti he saw a empty revolver carried by Muzi 3.When Mncube shot the tile that projectile couldn't be removed easily without tool until experts showed up and that damaged projectile found in the tiles is(CMJ same brand as the ones found on Mncube's wardrope her girlfriend miss Tefu testified not planted )it's identical to the one found on the sink identified by Nthabiseng Mokete scientific evidence says it's a 9mm 4.DNA and fingerprint were not found because the handle that they touched was touched by several other people that came to the scene and so is the hat and other items they left with were never recovered .Cellphone evidence puts Mncube on the vicinity even if it's not 100% precise and Zungu links them to be with him via pictures taken on the day at Basothwin,red polo ,bank transaction of Mncube at tops on the day and confessions. This evidence is enough for Ratha to write a judgement tomorrow. ALLEGEDLY
Mshololo sleeping on the job..
The runaway phone, was it there 🤔🤔
Sorted guys
What's happening now . I just joined
Judge why are you shy
Rams ask questions nd no follow up question after dt
Mnsini uyamuhalela ugininda
Hey futhi
Kwenzenjani manje kwathula enkantolo
Mgulugudu Gininda w know you storyline #youarenext
Where is the accused ? Person
Mr subsequently 👮♂️
😂😂😂 Ramosepele are obatla ho nketsa popae wena 😂
Exactly, sibanda o sele.
Sofaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hogwash
There's sum1 who disturbs proceedings ngePEN cos uneBiTE intsontsho kubaMangalelwa
2:19 Ramosepele, tell them my advocate
Ziyabuyaaaa neh
So can you tell the world if it was people with a gold tooth if the doctor says it no tooth been removed was laying.u but then the doctor gininda.
Nyambose it was clear that Accused No 2 had no Gold Tooth at any stage...13/11/2024
Hee the judge want to reject the second docket😮
4:19:03 listen to Baloyi 😂😂😂, shameful
Now he is using allegedly 🤣🤣🤣ginindza
Baloi why are you shy