I worked for a company for 13 years. Took very few sick days, worked hard & stayed current with all the new technologies & didn't get a pay rise for the last 6 years. I walked & started my own business. The first 12 months were scary & had me questioning my decision, but now things are sailing along nicely. The money & rewards are so much better than being an employee. Just be aware, you still have a boss....every client is your boss, and you are accountable for absolutely everything, even the screw ups. Work hard and you WILL succeed.
My brother. That's why unions are important. The companies aren't going to care about you individually. The union contracts are what fight for and protect the workers. Contracts to guarantee raises, ensure breaks and overtime are upheld and not taken advantage of. I'm a union inside wireman electrician and i feel that union strength is for the people working hard to earn more of what they deserve and less chance of the companies taking advantage of you. Please dont give up brother. Local union 617
@@nimbleco8202 I think you should look into the history of work in America. I dont know if you know this but the first jobs along time ago like mining and factory work were 7 days a week jobs. From sunrise to sunset. Everyday was wake up work sleep. Repeat. Unions are the only reason we have designated lunch breaks or weekends. Unless you're in favor of all jobs requiring you to have no life of your own. Just produce for the corporate big wigs. I think you are misinformed. Unions are good. But it requires the members to stick together in order to make their voices heard. Can it become corruptive with the wrong leadership? Of course. Safeway is an example. They used to have a strong union that fought for better wages and conditions for its employees. Then they started making sacrifice after sacrifice and now you wouldn't be able to make a comfortable living working there. It's about the people
An older wise man once told me to save up enough money to take 6 months off. He said once you do that you will stop giving a fuck about impressing your boss and working hard for no reason. He was all about working a honest day for a honest wage. No more, no less.
@@carpentryfirst3048 This is very wise advice. He in America you get handed more work on if your employer knows you're in a tight spot. These tight spots are usually a purchase of a house or new car. If they know you need the money they hand you more work for little reward.
@@henri6595 here in Canada I see the opposite. It's the guys in a tight spot the board and companies have them like putty in their hand. You can't speak up at work when you are afraid to lose next week's pay. I work in construction and safety is an issue. The guy who lives pay cheque to pay cheque doesn't ask questions. That person just does what they are told because they have no literal choice.
Thats where the expression "journeyman" comes from. In the old days, hundreds of years ago in the UK, when a stone mason finished his apprenticeship, he would go on his travels to learn more and different techniques of the trade, particularly travelling around Europe to pick up additional architectural skills and styles of building before returning to the UK. It became a phrase associated with all trade apprentices once they finished their respective apprenticeship they would branch out, move on and become a "journeyman". Respect from the UK
I thought it had to do with the fact that historically people had no choice but to travel for work. That's what a friend told me when I told him I wouldn't go more than an hour drive for work. The 4-5+ hour commutes are no joke. Fuckin ruining my life.
Knowing your own value is one of the hardest things you will ever learn about yourself. Over estimating your value is one of the things most people (me included), sometimes fail to come to grips with. I really enjoy watching your channel. More power to you.
So true. When I quit my last job and became self employed, I went from having to deal with say 4 people to having to deal with all customers as well as all the possible ones. There is no true escape from dealing with others. Learn communication skills people are everywhere.
They are there to teach you something like humility, patience, tolerance, seeing the good in others, flexibility etc. Some lessons are very difficult to digest.
You do need be aware of your own role in a situation but if there is a situation where you aren’t getting the opportunities you need or where the environment is negative you have a responsibility to yourself to move on. I don’t agree that you should never quit because you don’t like people, sometimes there are people who are genuinely toxic or negative and are not likeable for a reason. I agree that Learning to work with different people is important skill to learn but there are also limits.
My apprenticeship began with historical restoration. I got lucky. 18 months perfect attendance. My protege was a freakin master of the trade. I’ll never know how he put up with my dumbass. 32 years later and still loving it.
Almost finished my apprentiship not one single day with a journeyman. Not one single job with another carpenter. I feel ripped off. Just the way it goes where I am. Unless you wanna work for non union for half the wage, no benefits and no pension and less safety.
when i was sixteen i was accepted as an apprentice joiner in a shipyard, my friends father was my hero at the time as on any given weekend he and his partner would be in the garden laying out stringers for staircases or other construction joinery and i wanted to do the same, when i told him of my good fortune he just said, think carefully as you will always have the heaviest tool bag and the lightest pay packet, he of course was right, although i am rightly proud of my skills i know i could have made so much more money using my head instead of my hands.
Best comment Edward , I've been a C/J for 45yrs . I started out in the army as a apprentice dental technician , did 20 months and then had this mad idea to join my brother who was a apprentice C/J . My father was so disappointed and never let me forget it . He died 7 yrs ago but right up till the end every time i was out of work , he would say "i told you so. I strongly encouraged my son not to go near construction , he is on his way to being a accountant. Of course the work has taken me to Europe of and on for years and even Hong Kong for a year . But as you have realised its a Gypsy life hoping from one job to another , endlessly upgrading tools etc . When you see many other trades with a fraction of the gear we need , and earning more money , well i must agree , your uncle was spot on . All the best mate 👍👍👍👍🙌
Hey man just stumbled across your videos and you're story sounds quite familiar to mine. After 8 years of working for a framing and drywall company, getting severely underpaid, I started getting frustrated at work after so many years of loving the trades. I knew I needed a change, one night I came home frustrated from work and bought my master business licence. The next 2 weeks I lined up my liability insurance and WSIB insurance (I'm in Canada) and I haven't looked back!! Now I'm making a comfortable living and I enjoy my work so so much more. This video made me so happy, listening to your story made me remember how unhappy I was back then and how far I've come, thanks for that man. definitely subscribing and look forward to watching your future videos and the past ones as well. Much love all the way from The Great White North, eh!
love the letter box contract notion of things scott. 5 years ago now look at you, been sent tools from all brands and you keep it going. thank you for the insights though, I am a lawyer by profession and been working for other people for 10 years already. I think its time to work for myself now.
It took me 5 years as well through BCITO to finish my apprenticeship it was all correspondence which didn't help but finally got there moved to Aus wanted to get into civil for a change learnt heaps worked all over on gas plants etc lived in 3 states and the northern territory and now opperate heavy machinery loved the experience and I owe alot of it to my first boss who put me through my apprenticeship and gave me a crack in the first place I didn't realise at the time but he gave me the life skills and work ethic that set me on my course
Great, educational and entertaining videos. I’m a general contractor in Portland Oregon; it’s interesting to see how other builders do things in different countries.
I worked in a couple of prisons here in Perth back when I did my apprenticeship and got approached to throw tennis balls filled with drugs on more than one occasion. Haha it must work. I can confirm that it was/is tedious getting in and out everyday with your tools getting checked.
I'm 19 only started my journey or woodworking under a year ago. I work in interior door fitting, along with framing and architraving. I'm not amazing at it I have picked it up but more importantly in my books is that I can use tools efficiently such as mitre saws and table saws safely. I can hand doors... but I really would love to be a carpenter. Before the year is up I'm going to apply for a company called S.I.S.K its a 160 year old building company (in ireland - Btw carpentry apprenticeships are hard to land over here). I will have a years work experience in woodworking of sum sort I've put in frames and doors I've even cut doors and bought my own Dewalt tool kit (XR drill, jigsaw and skill saw). I really feel I am capable of doing this I just need to catch a break and show someone that I will work hard. In anyways long story short any advice from older chippies out there 😀
Oh geez LETTER box, I heard LITTER box. Sorry mate I'm from the states and have cats so the cards are stacked against me in this regard. love the channel and thank you for sharing all the advice and tips. I appreciate it.
I finished my apprenticeship in1973 left the following week , always would have been the lunch and tea boy, i learnt more in the first 12 months than i ever could have at my old job, retired now and taking it easy
I have done the very same thing, I have had a few businesses, but I always came back to "working a job " I had a lot more to learn. And I did, I know that you know you never stop.
Best thing you did buddy to go on your own, I did the same thing can't complain some days are better then others but hey it's all part of the trade! Keep the good videos coming. Liked and Subscribed
This video actually helped, I’m doing a carpentry apprenticeship and I think I’ve just done too much of the same thing “need to move on to the next thing” not quit 😂
With the experiance I picked up working during high school my college instructor told me to try a job halfway through class and challenge my first year. I picked up 1st and 2nd year before any of my classmates even started their apprenticeships. I then sat as a third year for six years as I didn't want to leave work to go to school. Finally I bit the bullet and went finished my first Red Seal. Within three years I had two more. Now that I was superqualified I hurt my back and had to change professions. Thats the problem with trades.
Hi there Scott i am an apprentice builder in Auckland, i just bought some roof racks for my old hiace, would be awesome if you could do a video on how to safely secure timber and whatever else with ratchet tie downs on roof racks as there is literally nothing on youtube about it Cheers bro! absolutely love your channel so good to have relative info for us kiwis
How does one become an apprentice builder.? One can't become a builder over 4 years... Pure BS! It takes yrs to be skilled( and understand other) tradesmen. An experenced can understand and carry out most trades.
I’m at that stage where I no longer want to work in my current job as a steelworker! I’m glad I listened to this video because it good advice ! I’m looking on going back in to carpentry! In the mean time I’m getting my tools together so I can be prepared! That’s why I watched these videos to motivate me an also choose the right tools ! Pluss I yoused to work with a chippy an loved it ! Covid delayed my carpentry corse ! 😩
Kia ora from South Auckland! Came across this channel on Wednesday and have now watched all your episodes. Excellently crafted videos you’ve got here bro, great to get a bit of insight into the building trade here in NZ. Very impressed with the quality of work both you and [Chef] Paerau do. Keep it up boys! Looking forward to the next episode!
Hay bro I now that feeling I used to weld pipelines in Ngawha springs anyway come'd across your channel yesterday and I'm loving it keep up the good work bro !!!
Thinking about joining an apprenticeship im 22 and ive never done carpentry but i like working with my hands and i love seeing things come together at the end
Apprentices usually quit from the lack of respect and money. I did and so did many others I know. The more experienced chippys you came up with will always see you as an apprentice.
I'm not in the trades but have heard this this frequently over the years. It's a legacy cultural issue, particularly in Australia. They had to go through the hazing and punishment, so you have to as well. Total bullshit in my opinion. I can bet you it doesn't make better tradesmen, you don't teach people how to be good at the craft if they're being made to feel like shit. Thats not an environment thats conducive to learning.
@@teamtoken I agree. It’s an antiquated way of thinking. If the apprentice manages to make foreman it can give them a bad attitude towards new apprentices. I did mine with my father, big mistake.
I’ve been spoke to like shit my whole apprenriship and been so scared to say anything or quit or even ask for a day off I’m so lost I just want to learn but I’m scared to fucking touch or do anything because he just has a go at me I’m so lost
@@slimeslime2123 If it’s what you really want to do stick it out; it’s good for character. Learn as much as you can and keep your head down. They will miss you when you leave. But don’t tell anyone that’s what you plan to do. That’s the kick in the bollocks for THEM. Remember, your hard work and character will make it easy to find another better job. Finish it, it’s important. Your success is their loss.
@Beardio mate it seems you are struggling to understand what is happening here. These guys above are making jokes about the Kiwi accent being hard to understand. In return i told them that if they keep watching this channel they will learn to understand the kiwi accent, it was a joke and at no ones expense and both the guys in this comment got the joke. Also the comment i made on your thread wasnt nearly as harsh as you are making out. It was merely that you came on this video blaming all these different people for the situation you have found yourself in and it seems to me that you need to stop focusing on all of them and focus on what you can do to make your life what you want it to be. This guy makes these videos partly as a way to show people that they can put those people behind them and go out on their own to make their own way in the world. If you dont want people to make comments on your life on the internet then i can only recommend that you dont go on the internet talking about your life.
My first thought when I heard litter box was: "hmm, I guess cedar is a decent choice for that." Followed by an image of a letter box: "oh yeah, that makes more sense."
Excellent mate, I appreciate your honesty and words of wisdom. I'm going to pass this video onto my daughter, who decided to go out on her own. I know she will appreciate your insight into this line of work. I believe we all need to find the path that works for ourselves, and it looks like you have found yours. I wish you the best my friend.
I’m doing the same kind of thing but I’m a joiner / shopfitter here in Australia, did my apprenticeship / worked in a few factory’s and did factory managers positions but now I’m running my own buisness and it’s working for me at the moment but still always good to take on new challenges to keep you excited for that next job.. love your work by the way and your vids :)
i have literally watched all your exitting episodes lol abd they are great, i have just taken the jump and gone self employed but still learning every day, i have not a qualification to my name but i am i very fast learner and deal with all manner of works in the uk , but i do like carpentry so take a great interest in your channel and advice and tips, for that i must say thank you. would love to work with you for a few days by the way lol. keep the channel going my friend, you keeping me inspired.
Bro, the end of last year I spent about 3 working in a psychiatric hospital just like what you where describing here in the uk, fitting tamper proof windows. First day I went in with my full kit, was told I had to count every screw and log every screw on the way out (what I used etc). I was from The northeast and the job was south London. Never, again lol.
Love this channel @Scott Brown Carpentry . I left school in 1992 and tried to get a carpentry apprenticeship, I also went to Unitec for a year. In those days it was such a closed shop when it came to apprenticeships.I found some of the employers a bit dishonest, by thats just me , Remember this wasnt to long before leaky homes happened.I decided Carpentry wasnt for me BUT I love to watch clips like this, great effort on this channel , kind regards :)
You’re right about when you say gotta know when you’re angry or when you need change, I was a bricklayer for 10 years and had enough of the bullshit and left my trowel on site never looked back
Every video I watch of you, is like your journey is exactly like mine! I’m 33 from uk and look back at when I thought I knew it all, compared to now! The more you know, the more you realise you don’t know
I don't know how it came to be that I was presented with your videos since it has nothing in common with my interests, but I enjoy it, since it's pretty chill :)
I can definitely relate to you on working somewhere for your apprenticeship, graduating to foreman and still being treated like an apprentice by the guy who taught you. Its really not fair because you paid your dues, a lot of people in the trades are undervalued, it feels good to be treated with the respect you deserve when you've paid your dues in this business, builders work hard, glad you got out of that prison.
I'm not in the trades but it's the same thing working your 1st job out of college. You have to jump ship to get promoted and earn more. Your 1st company will only see you as the new guy always.
I completed my apprenticeship, went on my own for about 6 months and quit to go to Uni and become an accountant. I'm now CPA qualified and don't regret a thing. I have all the skills i learned from being a carpenter and still use them from time to time, but I am no longer carrying heavy windows, Walls or Trusses through mud! I still walk through the Bunnings like a kid in a toy shop though :)
Shitbi dont have the math skills to become an cpa or engineer and college lecturers here in Texas dont give a shit if you learn or not they will just fail you
@@luisvilla799 College doesn't teach you anything really. You learn most of it on the job. Having done the college thing it's really just a resume builder. You can get many certificates to buff up your resume. We live in the age of people lying and buffed up resumes.
@@henri6595 yeah I know I have a useless business degree from a useless school here in Houston, Texas it never helped due to the fact they, big time Corporations, never recruited there
@@luisvilla799 You can still get to where you want to go. You can either job hop and or lie on your resume, or get a MS or MBA. Just don't get caught on the lying thing. I see lots of people with questionable things on their resumes. I find it really hard to believe people did so many things in three years working at one company 🤔😂. Just start taking credit for other people's achievements. Your manager and coworkers are doing it, so why not you?!?? Anyone telling you not to lie is just a newbie that hasn't played the game long enough.
@@henri6595 actually I done that lol but I'm to the point where I have to stop and catch my self so I wont get caught but yeah I sure as hell ain't getting a MBA or MS if I barely got through undergrad and most of the shit I learned was useless especially writting essays I have never ever been a job where I had to write 5 page or more essay I have done 20 page reports but with bar graphs numbers, spreadsheets and no need to fucking cite, why because it was our companies shit, plus they usually have some type of template I have been a high school teacher for 8 yrs now and hate it but I dont lie to my students that some of them dont have any business throwing away their money on college university
Great advice bro, “doing a job for too long and you need a change” “Jumping in the deep end” My dream is to be a carpenter.... I’m stuck at job that I’ve been doing the same thing for too long!! I’ve done my apprenticeship and no one will employ me!
Every time I quit a job in my career, I made sure I upgraded my position. Truth be told, once you are in, you always get thrown into the lions den and have to fake it until you make it. I made it to the top but opted out of corporate, still can't say if that was good or bad, it's never too late though.
I would stick with what you’re doing man, unless you want to put up with a bunch b/s. I am carpenter but honestly I wouldn’t do it again, too much b/s to navigate. More often than not, especially in unions, guys who are good at kissing ass and hob nobbing generally get all the work. I know plenty of excellent carpenters who are not as “people savvy” that often have to resort to lower paying non union jobs. Construction is full of desperate and afraid people that will do whatever it takes to keep their job, even if it means throwing others under the bus.
I've been replacing windows for a little over a year now and I'm moving on to remodeling more of the stuff you do. Which is what I've been wanting to do since I got out of high school. I'm not in any apprenticeship program just learning hands on. But I'm definitely nervous making such a huge jump but I know it's the right move for me.
Be thankful that building in NZ is busy and there’s a shortage of labour.... been in the game for 40 ish yrs and when there’s a downturn in economy.....building is tough
Just gone out on my own. Hoping to land my first job, priced it all myself. Fingers crossed. I’m from the uk 🇬🇧 I build plasterboard walls and suspended ceilings. Wanting to also get into carpentry
Ray_Banz58 Unions are awesome but filled with snakes. I left a company because of that. Guys were backstabbing and causing problems. I ended up moving to a different city and found a job through the union there and was a lot better.
It's detrimental to job site progress when workers think in shifts and cap their daily hours. Union work is extremely ineffecient when it comes to finishing jobs because of this reason.
Hi Scott, I worked in Holloway Prison in London. It was a woman’s prison, same thing, count everything in and everything out. Couldn’t put up with that for too long. I won’t come to NZ to work as it sounds exactly the same.
I was there 6 months 2016. Ground not any better. They had to raise one of the buildings with huge jacks. Loved it there, but since starting family its changed a bit.
Hi Scott, I just want to say that I enjoy your videos, keep safe and well in these trying days, oh by the way I have been a Prison Officer here in Australia for the last fifteen years, the security measures are very much needed, I am ex Christcurch boy.
I worked in a prison in Canada. A prisoner told me to smuggle in some pot or one day I'd find a bomb in my mail box. I looked at him with scorn cause I knew it was an empty threat. Never got the bomb.
Some advice from someone that started their own remodeling company 30 years ago, after quitting a carpenter job. First you need to make a decision; Are you going to be a business owner or someone that works in the field... If you're working with your tools. you're a tradesman. Businessman and Tradesman are two different animals...One makes money, the other earns a living...There are pros and cons to both... The most money I made in this business is writing contracts. The pieces of paper will make you FAR more money than ANY tool you have... Stay lean, Find other competent tradesmen and stay loyal to them. Develop relationships with your suppliers, make sure all your paperwork is in order... I semi retired 5 years ago; but; I slowly got dragged back in...Now; it's about making scores... Good luck and may every job be a delight and you never experience stress...Stay away from demanding people; they're not worth the aggravation...
I think most people in construction trade has ultimate goal of being there own boss running there own business some day. Just knowing the right time Is different for every one.
Journeyman: Late Middle English and the French "jour" or "day": from journey (in the obsolete sense ‘day's work’) + man; so named because the journeyman was no longer bound by indentures but was paid by the day.
Im 28 and considering a carpentry apprenticeship, but i also like cabinet making, but im not sure if its too late, or whether there will be someone willing to employ me.
Never too late..people go to prison ..have felonies etc and decide to straighten out their life at 35 years old and proceed to go to college..open their own business or whatever. 28 is still young(maybe 29 now).you live life once.take risks. Take chances..it will give you growth..and its better then saying I coulda shoulda woulda when your 50
why u use a impactwrench to screw drywalls? not sure how handy you are with it though but it smells disaster, meaning breaking the cardboard of the drywall very easy....
I always use one with a dimpler it only drives the screw to the perfect depth and releases with a slight dimple to cover the head with mud. Theyre only about a dollar at home depot and a great investment
Best to do the drywall joints on the studs or dwangs? I'm an engineer/electrician but isn't that bad practice? This guy sounds like he moans alot not kiwi like at all...I suppose he is from Auckland so not a kiwi at all
I do find it interesting that they made the sinking prison bigger I guess they pushed the planners that hand brains into the sinkholes before they attempted to fill them up and build right on top of them
@@Maria46823 do you think that the cost of carpentry work can make us disappointed. I have encountered many clients who have sometimes disputed my paycheck. wanted me to change my career too, but the art of wood carving was fine. maybe this will just be my hobby.
Why did you split the sheetrock, instead of moving the first one over to the left all the way, and then placing the second one to the right? Why add more steps by cutting and making more seams?
Well my friend, you did not quit , you moved on, most skilled tradesmen do that, they feel they can do better and usually they do. I did some work in a prison, I was asked all the time for my tools , we were counted in and out , which added time each day.I enjoyed the job , but not the conditions.
I actually had a plan to start the apprenticeship program and quite than start a business but I quit my first carpenter job after only working for a week which wasn’t an apprenticeship program. I quit before I even start it because I didn’t think it gonna get me anywhere with it especially with so many possibilities of not having job everyday, only staying at a job site for a few days which not gonna teach me anything and only thing they want me to do is housekeeping all day or do dirty work that no one wants to do.
I worked for a company for 13 years. Took very few sick days, worked hard & stayed current with all the new technologies & didn't get a pay rise for the last 6 years. I walked & started my own business. The first 12 months were scary & had me questioning my decision, but now things are sailing along nicely. The money & rewards are so much better than being an employee.
Just be aware, you still have a boss....every client is your boss, and you are accountable for absolutely everything, even the screw ups. Work hard and you WILL succeed.
you still have a boss : the state
My brother. That's why unions are important. The companies aren't going to care about you individually. The union contracts are what fight for and protect the workers. Contracts to guarantee raises, ensure breaks and overtime are upheld and not taken advantage of. I'm a union inside wireman electrician and i feel that union strength is for the people working hard to earn more of what they deserve and less chance of the companies taking advantage of you. Please dont give up brother.
Local union 617
K.J.Cocklin unions destroy businesses
@@hotdog160 always
@@nimbleco8202 I think you should look into the history of work in America. I dont know if you know this but the first jobs along time ago like mining and factory work were 7 days a week jobs. From sunrise to sunset. Everyday was wake up work sleep. Repeat. Unions are the only reason we have designated lunch breaks or weekends. Unless you're in favor of all jobs requiring you to have no life of your own. Just produce for the corporate big wigs.
I think you are misinformed. Unions are good. But it requires the members to stick together in order to make their voices heard. Can it become corruptive with the wrong leadership? Of course. Safeway is an example. They used to have a strong union that fought for better wages and conditions for its employees. Then they started making sacrifice after sacrifice and now you wouldn't be able to make a comfortable living working there. It's about the people
"You have to know the difference between being angry at your job and being ready to move on." 👍
An older wise man once told me to save up enough money to take 6 months off. He said once you do that you will stop giving a fuck about impressing your boss and working hard for no reason.
He was all about working a honest day for a honest wage. No more, no less.
Do you ?
Excellent advice. And sometimes they intersect eachother
@@carpentryfirst3048 This is very wise advice. He in America you get handed more work on if your employer knows you're in a tight spot. These tight spots are usually a purchase of a house or new car. If they know you need the money they hand you more work for little reward.
@@henri6595 here in Canada I see the opposite. It's the guys in a tight spot the board and companies have them like putty in their hand. You can't speak up at work when you are afraid to lose next week's pay.
I work in construction and safety is an issue. The guy who lives pay cheque to pay cheque doesn't ask questions. That person just does what they are told because they have no literal choice.
Thats where the expression "journeyman" comes from. In the old days, hundreds of years ago in the UK, when a stone mason finished his apprenticeship, he would go on his travels to learn more and different techniques of the trade, particularly travelling around Europe to pick up additional architectural skills and styles of building before returning to the UK. It became a phrase associated with all trade apprentices once they finished their respective apprenticeship they would branch out, move on and become a "journeyman". Respect from the UK
That's nice to know, thanks
That's some neat info. Thanks man.
@@Maghanashi No worries, this is how we all learn as a "Journeyman" in life by passing on the knowledge .. Regards ...
I thought it had to do with the fact that historically people had no choice but to travel for work. That's what a friend told me when I told him I wouldn't go more than an hour drive for work.
The 4-5+ hour commutes are no joke. Fuckin ruining my life.
Shame about brexiting the EU then. Will make journeying a bit harder.
Knowing your own value is one of the hardest things you will ever learn about yourself. Over estimating your value is one of the things most people (me included), sometimes fail to come to grips with.
I really enjoy watching your channel. More power to you.
"pass me that grinder and I'll break us out of here" 😂😂😂
Bahahahahahaha
Literally the show Prison Break Lol
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Tks, I was trying to understand that part. I played like five times and still wasn't understanding 😂😂😂
@@SauloSouz i feel that bro, i played that part for many times and still didnt know what is it mean, somebody need to help us bro😂
Never quit a job because there is someone you do not like. There will be someone you don’t like at the next job.
So true. When I quit my last job and became self employed, I went from having to deal with say 4 people to having to deal with all customers as well as all the possible ones. There is no true escape from dealing with others. Learn communication skills people are everywhere.
Well said
Absolutely true!
They are there to teach you something like humility, patience, tolerance, seeing the good in others, flexibility etc.
Some lessons are very difficult to digest.
You do need be aware of your own role in a situation but if there is a situation where you aren’t getting the opportunities you need or where the environment is negative you have a responsibility to yourself to move on. I don’t agree that you should never quit because you don’t like people, sometimes there are people who are genuinely toxic or negative and are not likeable for a reason. I agree that Learning to work with different people is important skill to learn but there are also limits.
My apprenticeship began with historical restoration. I got lucky. 18 months perfect attendance. My protege was a freakin master of the trade. I’ll never know how he put up with my dumbass. 32 years later and still loving it.
Not a single day off for 18mnths.
Lies....🤣🤣. Nah shot bro that's a reliable soldier you'd love to have in the trenches right there.
Almost finished my apprentiship not one single day with a journeyman. Not one single job with another carpenter.
I feel ripped off. Just the way it goes where I am. Unless you wanna work for non union for half the wage, no benefits and no pension and less safety.
That was funny.
Ass kiss boy
@@carpentryfirst3048 how do I get started? What's the diff between union and not union?
TBH more people in the trades need to hear this. Spent way too long at a job that was going nowhere!
People in other fields could stand to hear it too tbh.
when i was sixteen i was accepted as an apprentice joiner in a shipyard, my friends father was my hero at the time as on any given weekend he and his partner would be in the garden laying out stringers for staircases or other construction joinery and i wanted to do the same, when i told him of my good fortune he just said, think carefully as you will always have the heaviest tool bag and the lightest pay packet, he of course was right, although i am rightly proud of my skills i know i could have made so much more money using my head instead of my hands.
Best comment Edward , I've been a C/J for 45yrs . I started out in the army as a apprentice dental technician , did 20 months and then had this mad idea to join my brother who was a apprentice C/J . My father was so disappointed and never let me forget it . He died 7 yrs ago but right up till the end every time i was out of work , he would say "i told you so.
I strongly encouraged my son not to go near construction , he is on his way to being a accountant.
Of course the work has taken me to Europe of and on for years and even Hong Kong for a year . But as you have realised its a Gypsy life hoping from one job to another , endlessly upgrading tools etc . When you see many other trades with a fraction of the gear we need , and earning more money , well i must agree , your uncle was spot on . All the best mate 👍👍👍👍🙌
That’s why am in college not doing an apprenticeship
I started my union carpenters apprenticeship in NYC 1981 and I retired in 2021 and I'm loving every minute of it.
Hey man just stumbled across your videos and you're story sounds quite familiar to mine. After 8 years of working for a framing and drywall company, getting severely underpaid, I started getting frustrated at work after so many years of loving the trades. I knew I needed a change, one night I came home frustrated from work and bought my master business licence. The next 2 weeks I lined up my liability insurance and WSIB insurance (I'm in Canada) and I haven't looked back!! Now I'm making a comfortable living and I enjoy my work so so much more. This video made me so happy, listening to your story made me remember how unhappy I was back then and how far I've come, thanks for that man. definitely subscribing and look forward to watching your future videos and the past ones as well. Much love all the way from The Great White North, eh!
Scotty I love the way you pulled the festools box and pulled a makita out
love the letter box contract notion of things scott. 5 years ago now look at you, been sent tools from all brands and you keep it going. thank you for the insights though, I am a lawyer by profession and been working for other people for 10 years already. I think its time to work for myself now.
It took me 5 years as well through BCITO to finish my apprenticeship it was all correspondence which didn't help but finally got there moved to Aus wanted to get into civil for a change learnt heaps worked all over on gas plants etc lived in 3 states and the northern territory and now opperate heavy machinery loved the experience and I owe alot of it to my first boss who put me through my apprenticeship and gave me a crack in the first place I didn't realise at the time but he gave me the life skills and work ethic that set me on my course
How much are you being paid?
Great, educational and entertaining videos. I’m a general contractor in Portland Oregon; it’s interesting to see how other builders do things in different countries.
Cool I'm in PDX too. Yeah they do some things quite differently down there.
Huge missed opportunity for a clickbait title.
"Company I worked for sent me to PRISON!"
A clickbait title is just a sign that says the video will probably be nonsense/rambling stretched to 10 minutes for ads
I worked in a couple of prisons here in Perth back when I did my apprenticeship and got approached to throw tennis balls filled with drugs on more than one occasion. Haha it must work. I can confirm that it was/is tedious getting in and out everyday with your tools getting checked.
I'm 19 only started my journey or woodworking under a year ago. I work in interior door fitting, along with framing and architraving. I'm not amazing at it I have picked it up but more importantly in my books is that I can use tools efficiently such as mitre saws and table saws safely. I can hand doors... but I really would love to be a carpenter. Before the year is up I'm going to apply for a company called S.I.S.K its a 160 year old building company (in ireland - Btw carpentry apprenticeships are hard to land over here). I will have a years work experience in woodworking of sum sort I've put in frames and doors I've even cut doors and bought my own Dewalt tool kit (XR drill, jigsaw and skill saw). I really feel I am capable of doing this I just need to catch a break and show someone that I will work hard. In anyways long story short any advice from older chippies out there 😀
Oh geez LETTER box, I heard LITTER box. Sorry mate I'm from the states and have cats so the cards are stacked against me in this regard. love the channel and thank you for sharing all the advice and tips. I appreciate it.
Keep em coming Scott. Appreciate the vids mate. 👍
I finished my apprenticeship in1973 left the following week , always would have been the lunch and tea boy, i learnt more in the first 12 months than i ever could have at my old job, retired now and taking it easy
From the U.S.......thank you for these videos. I read my tape in imperial, you read your tape in metric....all good stuff around :)
I have done the very same thing, I have had a few businesses, but I always came back to "working a job " I had a lot more to learn. And I did, I know that you know you never stop.
Best thing you did buddy to go on your own, I did the same thing can't complain some days are better then others but hey it's all part of the trade! Keep the good videos coming. Liked and Subscribed
This video actually helped, I’m doing a carpentry apprenticeship and I think I’ve just done too much of the same thing “need to move on to the next thing” not quit 😂
This is a random video that I clicked on.
That editing style is amazing. I love how you broke up the talking with contextualised clips. Very unique.
With the experiance I picked up working during high school my college instructor told me to try a job halfway through class and challenge my first year. I picked up 1st and 2nd year before any of my classmates even started their apprenticeships. I then sat as a third year for six years as I didn't want to leave work to go to school. Finally I bit the bullet and went finished my first Red Seal. Within three years I had two more. Now that I was superqualified I hurt my back and had to change professions. Thats the problem with trades.
What trade is it?
Hi there Scott i am an apprentice builder in Auckland, i just bought some roof racks for my old hiace, would be awesome if you could do a video on how to safely secure timber and whatever else with ratchet tie downs on roof racks as there is literally nothing on youtube about it
Cheers bro! absolutely love your channel so good to have relative info for us kiwis
How does one become an apprentice builder.? One can't become a builder over 4 years... Pure BS!
It takes yrs to be skilled( and understand other) tradesmen. An experenced can understand and carry out most trades.
Always good to watch Scott.👍👍
I’m at that stage where I no longer want to work in my current job as a steelworker! I’m glad I listened to this video because it good advice ! I’m looking on going back in to carpentry! In the mean time I’m getting my tools together so I can be prepared! That’s why I watched these videos to motivate me an also choose the right tools ! Pluss I yoused to work with a chippy an loved it ! Covid delayed my carpentry corse ! 😩
Kia ora from South Auckland! Came across this channel on Wednesday and have now watched all your episodes. Excellently crafted videos you’ve got here bro, great to get a bit of insight into the building trade here in NZ. Very impressed with the quality of work both you and [Chef] Paerau do. Keep it up boys! Looking forward to the next episode!
Hay bro I now that feeling I used to weld pipelines in Ngawha springs anyway come'd across your channel yesterday and I'm loving it keep up the good work bro !!!
Thinking about joining an apprenticeship im 22 and ive never done carpentry but i like working with my hands and i love seeing things come together at the end
It is an extremely rewarding process.
Love your videos Scott, you should make them longer, 10 minutes plus. Always interesting and informative.
Thanks mate
Apprentices usually quit from the lack of respect and money. I did and so did many others I know.
The more experienced chippys you came up with will always see you as an apprentice.
I'm not in the trades but have heard this this frequently over the years. It's a legacy cultural issue, particularly in Australia. They had to go through the hazing and punishment, so you have to as well.
Total bullshit in my opinion. I can bet you it doesn't make better tradesmen, you don't teach people how to be good at the craft if they're being made to feel like shit. Thats not an environment thats conducive to learning.
@@teamtoken I agree. It’s an antiquated way of thinking. If the apprentice manages to make foreman it can give them a bad attitude towards new apprentices. I did mine with my father, big mistake.
I’ve been spoke to like shit my whole apprenriship and been so scared to say anything or quit or even ask for a day off I’m so lost I just want to learn but I’m scared to fucking touch or do anything because he just has a go at me I’m so lost
@@slimeslime2123
If it’s what you really want to do stick it out; it’s good for character. Learn as much as you can and keep your head down.
They will miss you when you leave. But don’t tell anyone that’s what you plan to do. That’s the kick in the bollocks for THEM.
Remember, your hard work and character will make it easy to find another better job.
Finish it, it’s important. Your success is their loss.
@@slimeslime2123
Just keep your head down and finish your apprenticeship. Get a better job. Your success is their loss.
Good luck.
Cat litter box? That's how I heard it 😂🤣
Same. I also heard litter box at first. Also, when he was building a deck, I heard Richard, initially.
@@egonmilanowski Richard? Dicking? Deck? Who knows 🤣
@@justgregnow You guys keep watching his channel, you'll be speaking Kiwis in no time!
@Beardio Pots and kettles you knob jockey.
@Beardio mate it seems you are struggling to understand what is happening here. These guys above are making jokes about the Kiwi accent being hard to understand. In return i told them that if they keep watching this channel they will learn to understand the kiwi accent, it was a joke and at no ones expense and both the guys in this comment got the joke. Also the comment i made on your thread wasnt nearly as harsh as you are making out. It was merely that you came on this video blaming all these different people for the situation you have found yourself in and it seems to me that you need to stop focusing on all of them and focus on what you can do to make your life what you want it to be. This guy makes these videos partly as a way to show people that they can put those people behind them and go out on their own to make their own way in the world. If you dont want people to make comments on your life on the internet then i can only recommend that you dont go on the internet talking about your life.
i thought you said, "litter box" like a cat's litter box, lol. i'm glad you added followup video of the letter boxes! :D
My first thought when I heard litter box was: "hmm, I guess cedar is a decent choice for that." Followed by an image of a letter box: "oh yeah, that makes more sense."
Excellent mate, I appreciate your honesty and words of wisdom. I'm going to pass this video onto my daughter, who decided to go out on her own. I know she will appreciate your insight into this line of work. I believe we all need to find the path that works for ourselves, and it looks like you have found yours. I wish you the best my friend.
I’m doing the same kind of thing but I’m a joiner / shopfitter here in Australia, did my apprenticeship / worked in a few factory’s and did factory managers positions but now I’m running my own buisness and it’s working for me at the moment but still always good to take on new challenges to keep you excited for that next job.. love your work by the way and your vids :)
Great channel, great vid - subscribed. 👍👊
Good video, good dude. Easy to see.
Just a note; do you always do drywall that way? I was taught never to have a seam over a void. Always run drywall seams over a stud or fire break.
Who the f#@k dislikes these videos ?? Haven't seen a bad episode yet ! Big fan mate, keep up the great work !!
dislike are from the guys in prison, should have lent them use the grinder bro....
You have a good attitude and seem to have good colleagues. Good things will keep coming because of it.
i have literally watched all your exitting episodes lol abd they are great, i have just taken the jump and gone self employed but still learning every day, i have not a qualification to my name but i am i very fast learner and deal with all manner of works in the uk , but i do like carpentry so take a great interest in your channel and advice and tips, for that i must say thank you. would love to work with you for a few days by the way lol. keep the channel going my friend, you keeping me inspired.
Bro, the end of last year I spent about 3 working in a psychiatric hospital just like what you where describing here in the uk, fitting tamper proof windows. First day I went in with my full kit, was told I had to count every screw and log every screw on the way out (what I used etc). I was from
The northeast and the job was south London. Never, again lol.
Love this channel @Scott Brown Carpentry . I left school in 1992 and tried to get a carpentry apprenticeship, I also went to Unitec for a year. In those days it was such a closed shop when it came to apprenticeships.I found some of the employers a bit dishonest, by thats just me , Remember this wasnt to long before leaky homes happened.I decided Carpentry wasnt for me BUT I love to watch clips like this, great effort on this channel , kind regards :)
You’re right about when you say gotta know when you’re angry or when you need change, I was a bricklayer for 10 years and had enough of the bullshit and left my trowel on site never looked back
Every video I watch of you, is like your journey is exactly like mine! I’m 33 from uk and look back at when I thought I knew it all, compared to now! The more you know, the more you realise you don’t know
Was that the shepherd rd house? When me in the bell brothers came up and stayed?
will be looking forward to the build! Thanks for taking us along!
Was totally puzzled by the idea you were building a litter box till I saw the letter boxes. lol.
I don't know how it came to be that I was presented with your videos since it has nothing in common with my interests, but I enjoy it, since it's pretty chill :)
Cheers man 👍
Not exactly on topic, but in California we have to "global block" all drywall. Apparently not so in NZ.
Exterior walls are usually insulated with glass wool. Don't worry about interior walls
I can definitely relate to you on working somewhere for your apprenticeship, graduating to foreman and still being treated like an apprentice by the guy who taught you. Its really not fair because you paid your dues, a lot of people in the trades are undervalued, it feels good to be treated with the respect you deserve when you've paid your dues in this business, builders work hard, glad you got out of that prison.
I'm not in the trades but it's the same thing working your 1st job out of college. You have to jump ship to get promoted and earn more. Your 1st company will only see you as the new guy always.
Thanks for doing this! Maybe one day I will change my job (IT) to do what you're doing. It's amazing! Greetings from Romania! :)
I completed my apprenticeship, went on my own for about 6 months and quit to go to Uni and become an accountant. I'm now CPA qualified and don't regret a thing. I have all the skills i learned from being a carpenter and still use them from time to time, but I am no longer carrying heavy windows, Walls or Trusses through mud!
I still walk through the Bunnings like a kid in a toy shop though :)
Shitbi dont have the math skills to become an cpa or engineer and college lecturers here in Texas dont give a shit if you learn or not they will just fail you
@@luisvilla799 College doesn't teach you anything really. You learn most of it on the job. Having done the college thing it's really just a resume builder. You can get many certificates to buff up your resume. We live in the age of people lying and buffed up resumes.
@@henri6595 yeah I know I have a useless business degree from a useless school here in Houston, Texas it never helped due to the fact they, big time Corporations, never recruited there
@@luisvilla799 You can still get to where you want to go. You can either job hop and or lie on your resume, or get a MS or MBA. Just don't get caught on the lying thing. I see lots of people with questionable things on their resumes. I find it really hard to believe people did so many things in three years working at one company 🤔😂. Just start taking credit for other people's achievements. Your manager and coworkers are doing it, so why not you?!?? Anyone telling you not to lie is just a newbie that hasn't played the game long enough.
@@henri6595 actually I done that lol but I'm to the point where I have to stop and catch my self so I wont get caught but yeah I sure as hell ain't getting a MBA or MS if I barely got through undergrad and most of the shit I learned was useless especially writting essays I have never ever been a job where I had to write 5 page or more essay I have done 20 page reports but with bar graphs numbers, spreadsheets and no need to fucking cite, why because it was our companies shit, plus they usually have some type of template I have been a high school teacher for 8 yrs now and hate it but I dont lie to my students that some of them dont have any business throwing away their money on college university
Great advice bro, “doing a job for too long and you need a change”
“Jumping in the deep end”
My dream is to be a carpenter.... I’m stuck at job that I’ve been doing the same thing for too long!!
I’ve done my apprenticeship and no one will employ me!
Thanks, Best of luck bro
How are you doing know?
I want to live in another country before I have kids, but it's also time to start learning some skills. Can I really have it all?
Great video Scott ,all the best from Scotland 👍👍👍
Cheers !
Every time I quit a job in my career, I made sure I upgraded my position. Truth be told, once you are in, you always get thrown into the lions den and have to fake it until you make it. I made it to the top but opted out of corporate, still can't say if that was good or bad, it's never too late though.
Looks like you could of went horizontal (properly) with the drywall and only had 1 joint.
Im a foreign language English tutor, just finished a degree.. now after watching your videos I want to go into joinery and carpentry
I would stick with what you’re doing man, unless you want to put up with a bunch b/s. I am carpenter but honestly I wouldn’t do it again, too much b/s to navigate. More often than not, especially in unions, guys who are good at kissing ass and hob nobbing generally get all the work. I know plenty of excellent carpenters who are not as “people savvy” that often have to resort to lower paying non union jobs. Construction is full of desperate and afraid people that will do whatever it takes to keep their job, even if it means throwing others under the bus.
Stoked for the *spolier alert* cedar letter box!
I've been replacing windows for a little over a year now and I'm moving on to remodeling more of the stuff you do. Which is what I've been wanting to do since I got out of high school. I'm not in any apprenticeship program just learning hands on. But I'm definitely nervous making such a huge jump but I know it's the right move for me.
Hope it's turned out buddy... 👍
Building really is quite that kind of trade, one moment ur up, in a blink of a eye, ur down, I love it.
That’s called an elevator dummy
you didn't finish the 2 small drywall sheets on a vertical stud ?
steve simpson made a tongue and groove off camera mate
Be thankful that building in NZ is busy and there’s a shortage of labour.... been in the game for 40 ish yrs and when there’s a downturn in economy.....building is tough
Just gone out on my own. Hoping to land my first job, priced it all myself. Fingers crossed. I’m from the uk 🇬🇧 I build plasterboard walls and suspended ceilings. Wanting to also get into carpentry
harry green where in uk are you based?
christian Coulson Essex
Best of luck mate
How you getting on lad
brilliant video, thanks for your thoughts
Union is the way to go. Great pay, full benefits and retirement. Just show up do my 8 and go home! Love it
Ray_Banz58
Don’t forget the politics
Chump Johnson
Very true
Ray_Banz58
Unions are awesome but filled with snakes. I left a company because of that. Guys were backstabbing and causing problems. I ended up moving to a different city and found a job through the union there and was a lot better.
It's detrimental to job site progress when workers think in shifts and cap their daily hours. Union work is extremely ineffecient when it comes to finishing jobs because of this reason.
Hi Scott, I worked in Holloway Prison in London. It was a woman’s prison, same thing, count everything in and everything out. Couldn’t put up with that for too long. I won’t come to NZ to work as it sounds exactly the same.
Good on ya bro!
I was there 6 months 2016. Ground not any better. They had to raise one of the buildings with huge jacks. Loved it there, but since starting family its changed a bit.
Hold my beer gotta level this sheet of dry wall real quick
Hi Scott, I just want to say that I enjoy your videos, keep safe and well in these trying days, oh by the way I have been a Prison Officer here in Australia for the last fifteen years, the security measures are very much needed, I am ex Christcurch boy.
I worked in a prison in Canada. A prisoner told me to smuggle in some pot or one day I'd find a bomb in my mail box. I looked at him with scorn cause I knew it was an empty threat. Never got the bomb.
Some advice from someone that started their own remodeling company 30 years ago, after quitting a carpenter job. First you need to make a decision; Are you going to be a business owner or someone that works in the field...
If you're working with your tools. you're a tradesman. Businessman and Tradesman are two different animals...One makes money, the other earns a living...There are pros and cons to both...
The most money I made in this business is writing contracts. The pieces of paper will make you FAR more money than ANY tool you have...
Stay lean, Find other competent tradesmen and stay loyal to them. Develop relationships with your suppliers, make sure all your paperwork is in order...
I semi retired 5 years ago; but; I slowly got dragged back in...Now; it's about making scores...
Good luck and may every job be a delight and you never experience stress...Stay away from demanding people; they're not worth the aggravation...
I think most people in construction trade has ultimate goal of being there own boss running there own business some day. Just knowing the right time Is different for every one.
I like the style of this video, it's satisfying to learn something about you and maybe learn some trick about how to do jobs at the same time.
Journeyman: Late Middle English and the French "jour" or "day": from journey (in the obsolete sense ‘day's work’) + man; so named because the journeyman was no longer bound by indentures but was paid by the day.
Im 28 and considering a carpentry apprenticeship, but i also like cabinet making, but im not sure if its too late, or whether there will be someone willing to employ me.
Never too late..people go to prison ..have felonies etc and decide to straighten out their life at 35 years old and proceed to go to college..open their own business or whatever. 28 is still young(maybe 29 now).you live life once.take risks. Take chances..it will give you growth..and its better then saying I coulda shoulda woulda when your 50
why u use a impactwrench to screw drywalls? not sure how handy you are with it though but it smells disaster, meaning breaking the cardboard of the drywall very easy....
I always use one with a dimpler it only drives the screw to the perfect depth and releases with a slight dimple to cover the head with mud. Theyre only about a dollar at home depot and a great investment
Nice vid, mate!
Why did they have to check in and out all their tools every day? Couldn’t the tools just be stored somewhere safely on the building site?
When you get start your drywall apprenticeship make sure you learn it’s easier to lay drywall horizontally
Best to do the drywall joints on the studs or dwangs? I'm an engineer/electrician but isn't that bad practice? This guy sounds like he moans alot not kiwi like at all...I suppose he is from Auckland so not a kiwi at all
Scott brown is pretty much the Casey Neistat of builders.
Big fan of your work Scott.
Hey Scott at 1:50 your fastener box. As a Carpenter what range of fasteners do you always have on hand?
Come on bro im ready for your next episode! Your videos are great my man
I do find it interesting that they made the sinking prison bigger
I guess they pushed the planners that hand brains into the sinkholes before they attempted to fill them up and build right on top of them
I was a wood engraver and carpentry for 10 years .. now it is my life to death .. I love my work ...
How's the pay?
@@Maria46823 do you think that the cost of carpentry work can make us disappointed. I have encountered many clients who have sometimes disputed my paycheck. wanted me to change my career too, but the art of wood carving was fine. maybe this will just be my hobby.
Where can you get that Japanese saw in Auckland?
Why did you split the sheetrock, instead of moving the first one over to the left all the way, and then placing the second one to the right? Why add more steps by cutting and making more seams?
G’day mate, your channel is very enjoyable & honest, cheers for that 🔨🔨👍👍👍🎥
Well my friend, you did not quit , you moved on, most skilled tradesmen do that, they feel they can do better and usually they do. I did some work in a prison, I was asked all the time for my tools , we were counted in and out , which added time each day.I enjoyed the job , but not the conditions.
i love the mailbox twist
Music in these vids is dope
I actually had a plan to start the apprenticeship program and quite than start a business but I quit my first carpenter job after only working for a week which wasn’t an apprenticeship program. I quit before I even start it because I didn’t think it gonna get me anywhere with it especially with so many possibilities of not having job everyday, only staying at a job site for a few days which not gonna teach me anything and only thing they want me to do is housekeeping all day or do dirty work that no one wants to do.
Qualified builder? What is the definition of a qualified builder? How can you be qualified if you didn't finish your apprenticeship? I'm confused.
I left the company after finishing my apprenticeship. I was a qualified builder while I worked at the prison job too.
A friend of mine lives in storage units in whatever city he is in
It’s a lot cheaper he says.
I said so is being homeless