Hey, thanks for the shout-out! The Grill doesn't have to be under-mounted, just make a reveal of 1/8 maybe 3/16, and it's a drop in part, add a couple brass screws, solved. As for the break-over angle, add 1 degree maybe 1.5, of neck dive. Names??
The big grills on the very first National tricones were woven brass strips, they very quickly changed to diamond shaped cutouts which gave the same look. Pete T
Gerald actually made these 15 years ago. I bought them from him to make Clocks from them. I am glad I did not use them for that. They were made for the Tricone Company if I remember right. If national owns them or owned them, I am not certain. I got them from him the same year that Gerald retired. Maybe I can get him to watch this video and comment and straighten out anything I stated that may be wrong. I am happy Iwas able to get them to someone that can use them and get some great information on the pieces.
That makes more sense. I was doing rough math in my head and was wondering how old Gerald is Lol! Thanks Van. I've never heard of the Tricone company, I guess they were made for the modern National company.
@@Ninety2guits It probably was for national. I head Gerald call one of the tricone and I maybe made the assumption that was the name. Gerald was past the regular retirement age when he retired 15 years ago. I believe he may be in his late 80's? I last spoke to Gerald about a month ago. He is still active and has a Garage full of fishing lures. That's how we met. I make a Vintage Fishing Lure Calendar. I started it back 23 years ago and Gerald has had a lure or two in my calendars. The thing is that I have not seen any cut away resonators. Is that not a normal thing?
Another great video, thanks. I totally feel that you should use those vintage National tops in future builds wherever possible. If it was me, I would leave the tops just as they are, not polished up or anything, as a contrast to the rest of the build, which obviously would be all new and shiny. I think that would look very cool, but of course you may well disagree!
Great video!! I believe Mule uses 22 gauge, I recall something about that in one of their videos. I'm not sure if you know, but they make jewellers solder in different colours, brass, copper etc. Definitely more costly, but may be something to look into, at least for exposed joints. Good luck on the model naming, it may be harder than naming children, lol!
Thanks. I bought some last week and even filmed a little about it but it hit the cutting room floor I guess. I haven't tested it yet but I do like the idea of it being brass colored. Maybe I'll test it this week.
Even when bending the tabs, using the bead roller to tip the edge will do two things. It will start the bend and also give you a smooth curve rather than a series of straight segments in the bend. For the bead roller, a tipping die on the upper and a skateboard wheel on the lower. The upper die can be made using a large washer welded to a wheel with the outer edge of the washer rounded over. Or just buy one, lots out there for sale that fit the style bead roller you have.
Killer video James ! This is a ton of fun!
Hey, thanks for the shout-out! The Grill doesn't have to be under-mounted, just make a reveal of 1/8 maybe 3/16, and it's a drop in part, add a couple brass screws, solved. As for the break-over angle, add 1 degree maybe 1.5, of neck dive. Names??
The big grills on the very first National tricones were woven brass strips, they very quickly changed to diamond shaped cutouts which gave the same look. Pete T
That's true, but I think woven grills would look great personally.
Gerald actually made these 15 years ago. I bought them from him to make Clocks from them. I am glad I did not use them for that. They were made for the Tricone Company if I remember right. If national owns them or owned them, I am not certain. I got them from him the same year that Gerald retired. Maybe I can get him to watch this video and comment and straighten out anything I stated that may be wrong. I am happy Iwas able to get them to someone that can use them and get some great information on the pieces.
That makes more sense. I was doing rough math in my head and was wondering how old Gerald is Lol! Thanks Van. I've never heard of the Tricone company, I guess they were made for the modern National company.
@@Ninety2guits It probably was for national. I head Gerald call one of the tricone and I maybe made the assumption that was the name. Gerald was past the regular retirement age when he retired 15 years ago. I believe he may be in his late 80's? I last spoke to Gerald about a month ago. He is still active and has a Garage full of fishing lures. That's how we met. I make a Vintage Fishing Lure Calendar. I started it back 23 years ago and Gerald has had a lure or two in my calendars. The thing is that I have not seen any cut away resonators. Is that not a normal thing?
Looks amazing!!!
I'm loving these builds
Another great video, thanks. I totally feel that you should use those vintage National tops in future builds wherever possible. If it was me, I would leave the tops just as they are, not polished up or anything, as a contrast to the rest of the build, which obviously would be all new and shiny. I think that would look very cool, but of course you may well disagree!
Names? "Southern belle", for bell brass and Belle as in beautiful, and the Steel one the "Stallion", sorta south blues horse inspired.
Great video!! I believe Mule uses 22 gauge, I recall something about that in one of their videos. I'm not sure if you know, but they make jewellers solder in different colours, brass, copper etc. Definitely more costly, but may be something to look into, at least for exposed joints. Good luck on the model naming, it may be harder than naming children, lol!
Thanks. I bought some last week and even filmed a little about it but it hit the cutting room floor I guess. I haven't tested it yet but I do like the idea of it being brass colored. Maybe I'll test it this week.
Even when bending the tabs, using the bead roller to tip the edge will do two things. It will start the bend and also give you a smooth curve rather than a series of straight segments in the bend. For the bead roller, a tipping die on the upper and a skateboard wheel on the lower. The upper die can be made using a large washer welded to a wheel with the outer edge of the washer rounded over. Or just buy one, lots out there for sale that fit the style bead roller you have.
As to the weight difference, try tracking the amount of solder you use. Solder is HEAVY so it might make a big difference on the finished piece.
National have a Triolion, and a Duolion but not a Monolion, I have used it on a couple of my creations but very happy if you use it as well.
Pete T
Nice. How about linoleum 🤣🤣
Names, since they are ''axes" maybe ''tomahawk" and ''Adze". WOod and metal as well?
Maybe epoxy the Mahogany grills onto a brass bass ,to add strength? Just a brainfart