Hi rawmark, there are always exceptions. I agree that Mimi Kirk looks wonderful. I don't mean any disrespect toward Jay Kordich, he seems to be a nice man, but he doesn't look younger than his age. He looks about as young/ healthy as my dad was at that age. I certainly agree with him that drinking lots of raw veggie juices is good for your health and longevity, and I expect it's doing him a lot of good. Raw juices are great, but are best when added to a paleo diet with animal protein sources.
I entirely agree. over 30 years ago, when I became vegetarian, the number of fake meat products on the market was really limited. Transition from a Standard American Diet to vegetarian reqired learning how to prepare meals using traditional soy products like Tofu, Tempeh and Miso. I never regretted learning how to use these products, but found that to much soy did cause digetive problems. Backing off soy quickly began to resolve matters. I began to find a kind of balance while made things better quickly. After some thinking about the issue I conclused that, because North Americans eat so much meat, meals tend to be centred on it. When moving to a vegetarian diet, one tends to naturally consider the source of protein as being of primary importance. This leads to making meals with a huge chunk of tofu or tempeh at the centre of the plate where the meat once was. It is hard a first to move away from this kind of thinking. In truth, I eventually learned that all plant food contains protein. However virtually none of this has all the essential amino acids to be classified as complete protein. By eating a wide variety of foods the required amino acids are then combined in the body to make complete protein. Soy is rich in amino acids, so can - if eaten in small amounts contribute to the protein profile. When I became vegetarian I was taught that it was important to get all the essential amino acids at the same time. This I was told should be done by eating nuts, seeds, grains and beans in the same meal, or at least within a few hours of each other. These foods each contained some of the 9 essential amino acids needed to make complete protein. However, many years later, I learned that this way of food combining is not required and is based on a long standing myth. Last year I became a vegan. When I did I saw some wonderful videos by various doctors and nutritionists debunking myths about food combiing and protein. From those videos i learned that the body grabs and stores amino acids in tissue ad hock. This means that foods containing various amino acids can be eaten a differnet times and do not have to be combined in the same meal. The value of knowing this is that it makes meal planning simpler. One does not have to stress out about getting all the essential amino acids for complete protein in a single meal. It also means you don't have to be as concerned about the source of those amino acids. Once you understand that incomplete protein is present in all plant food you can relax and enjoy your meal. Once you understand that the old rules about food combining are more myth than real, it's easier to eat as you please instead of thinking of each meal like a science experiment. For me the most liberating part of all this was getting my head out of meat based thinking. Once you understand that you do not need a big chunk of protein at the centre of your plate, either from animal or plant sources - everything changes.
I really like mcdougall, and I like how he points out traditional soy products are okay, because they have been proven so for millenniums. Second time watching this little short, old but still valid. I think two ounces is obviously on the lower end of what is acceptable (Gregor shows actual evidence of 3-5 servings seemingly acceptably healthy), but I like the message.
That's awesome. I eat some soy products. I got off the vegan cheese though, I replaced that with nutritional yeast. As a newbie, only vegan for 16 months I am still learning and am realizing there is alot of vegan junk food out there. I do the mean green juice still fro the film "fat, sick and nearly dead"
Dr. McDougall is the BOMB!! Cut out that meat, dairy and processed foods if you want optimal health well into your old age! Look at our parents generation, no way in hell I'm going to go out like that. VEGAN FTW!!!
You're one of the few straight thinking people I know. I spend too much time trying to debunk carnivore and paleo-logic on their channels, and it can be tiring... Time to do a workout
@@youtubeuser7798 He isn't on steroids dude, he is a natty, just like e.g. Shawn Baker. Many omnivores have nutrient deficiencies, which has been shown in a lot of studies. What do u mean with 'unnatural'? If a species doesn't feel hunger when encountering a corpse, it's unnatural that the species eats it. What do you mean?
And yes, most soy is GMO. But you actually hardly ever have to worry about that if you're vegan. Most of the GM soy is fed to "livestock" animals. At least 90% of soy products that are marketed to vegans (soymilk, tofu, tempeh, mock meats) are actually organic because the companies know that vegans tend to be more health conscious and likely to avoid GMOs.
I think organic rice milk is best, lowest in fats, non-allergenic related like almond-type milks may be, and a good source of carohydrates. Basically in a general sense, anything 'asian related' in food is good for you.. rice over wheat, fish over meat/dairy etc.. depending where its sourced of course.
let's face reality: while it is ideal to eat as close to a whole food plant based diet as possible even including some traditional soy foods, it is a nice first transitional step for people to have access to veggie\soy burgers or other mock meat products. it really helped me out while I was still trying to learn to enjoy more plants and then the more I started enjoying a bowl of lentils and kale with steamed carrots or something for instance, the less I cared about the mock meat products. i don't get the highly processed soy isolate and egg veggie burgers anymore but I do instead get from time to time veggie burgers that are made out of minimally processed plant foods like burger patties made from quinoa, bulgur wheat, black beans or something like that (no eggs now) but those other ones were a really good helpful stepping stone. but that's just my experience with it.
Very well said. Besides that, there's no harm in having some processed faux meats (soy protein isolates) from time to time, they're high in protein and fiber usually, and frankly speaking, are way healthier than most things people eat nowadays. One shouldn't be so quick to denounce certain foods, especially given the diets people have nowadays.
So... is stuff like SOY cheeses worse for us than regular cheese? Should I just stick with normal cheese if I had to make a choice then? Which is worse for our health overall?? Please tell me. I already know what the answer is for the environmental and moral reasons, but what about the health factor Doctor Mcdougall? There is so much information out there and I am totally looking for the answers. Thanks.
I have searched for a long time for a diet that makes sense and that is palatable. Dr. McDougall has hit it on the head for me. I am glad to know that he says we can leave out soy products. I don't like soy and especially tofu. I am especially concerned about most soy beans in the USA are genetically modified. I watch Dr. McDougall and his wife on their cooking shows and every one of them seem that they would be very edible and also the dishes she cooks are easy to make with ingredients that are readily available (no 70 mile round trip to our nearest health food store). Keep up the good work. In another video I saw where the Doc does not claim to be a vegetarian because once every 2 years he and his wife cook and eat a small portion of turkey on Thanksgiving. I lke that! So many cheat on Thanksgivings and Christmas and cook up the ole turkey, and then they tell people, "I am a vegetarian." Well, no, you're not. Anyway, to me Dr. McDougall's advice on diet is the most down-to-earth, both healthy and palatable diet I have found to date. GO DR. McDOUGALL!!!
You definitely do not need to consume soy in order to be vegetarian. If you don't like it, don't eat it. I do like tofu now. The secret lies in marinating it for a long time for it to have the flavor sink in.
***** Nonsense. You can't buy GMO versions of those foods! And you most definitely cannot simply go out and buy GMO versions of the seed to grow it! They are licensed and their sale used for biofuel and animal feed. So much hype and so little facts...
***** If you knew what you were talking about you would know that the Senators here in the United States struck down an amendment that would allow states to regulate the labeling of GMO foods. The amendment, as part of the massive, wide-ranging Farm Bill, was overwhelmingly rejected by Senators on Thursday in a 71-27 vote, would have supported and clarified the existing rights of states to enact their own laws requiring the labeling of genetically engineered foods. But NONE of that matters. TRY to buy GMO products. Try it! They are restricted! Both the seed and the final product! The available market is NOT in the 'standard food chain' as you fantasize! Oh, I know folks like you will run about claiming GMOs are everywhere, but TRY to buy the seed to plant! TRY IT! It is a complex process for farmers to even get a license to use it! And after all is said and done, GMOs are like gluten, the lowest source of concern in the larger issue of an optimally healthy complete balanced whole food plant based low sugar low fat diet. Stop the anecdotal BS and find out the facts.
***** Can you read for meaning???? One wonders what use a label would be if you cannot fathom the FACT that the Congress JUST LAST WEEK overrode each state's ability to require their identification and labeling of GMOs!!!!
***** Dumbfk, GMOs have NOT proven to be a problem from a scientific POV if you would bother to actually read the scientific studies - as McDougall has stated and which are summariezed at Nutritionfacts.org. So YOU are the only one running about like Chicken Little. But YOUR admonition to check the labeling has ALSO been torpedoed as Congress has just STOPPED any state efforts to HAVE them labeled! DUH! In other words, even if idiots like yourself demand it, federal law has just said that the states CANNOT require labeling. So, you stupid fkwad, YOU are the only one worried about their labeling or identification and YOU are the only one who thinks that they are common in the food system. Now shutup, as you have REPEATEDLY misinterpreted everything that has been said by EVERYONE
So where does one find soy that hasn't been genetically modified (GMO) or RoundUp ready soy? I don't like eating foods soaked in RoundUp pesticides. It gets incorporated into the soy and can't be washed off.
That was before genetic modification came in. Now soy is pointless to eat because of the incredibly high percentage of GMO. What makes soy so special that another legume cannot be used in its place? Why can't tofu, tempeh and other traditional soy products be made with another legume? Why risk eating GMO when there are other crops that have significantly less chance of being GMO?
I've studied nutrition, and was unanimously lead to believe that only fermented soy was digestable. That GMO soy is not fit for human consumption, it's altered so that it can be sprayed with roundup,it's roundup resistant, it's also modified for animal feed, with antibiotics and hormones. That the isolates are waste products and toxic. I've enjoyed eating steamed soy beans, and I used to drink soy milk, I'm open minded. I used to eat tofu, hmmmmm
P.S. If you Google Mimi Kirk, you'll find interviews in which she states that she *** does not *** eat any soy. She recommends totally avoiding all soy products. Her protein all comes from greens, hemp seeds, chia seeds and sprouts. She warns on her blog about avoiding soy, and avoiding eating any foods that are "cross contaminiated" with soy from being processed in the same plant. (This is why she recommends avoiding Braggs aminos, for example).
What part of "complete balanced Whole plant based low sugar low fat no meat, eggs, dairy or oil" is complicated? C. Esselstyn, T. Colin Campbell, and J McDougall, as well as M. Greger's research summaries at at NutritionFactsdotorg are the standards for reference.
Hi rawmark, on that we agree. I was eating an all organic diet rich in fruits and vegetables. Unfortunately I was also eating soy (in the form of lots of organic tofu and soy milk, which made me sick and tired all the time. As soon as I stopped the soy, and added organic grass-fed meat and raw milk from grass-fed cows to my diet I got healthy again. At this point I'd say we've both made our points and should probably just agree to disagree. Take care, and I wish you good health and long life.
Dr. McDougal... I have a question about the fitnessfoods. What about protein powders? Soy-, Rice-, Bean-protein? The ones to make a vegan protein shake with? Do they raise IGF1? Are they dangerous? What is your opinion?
So the isolated soy protein used to make fake soy meats is not good. What's the advice on isolated wheat protein (gluten) to make seitan - is that bad also?
most likely , anything over processed like gluten itself would be hard for the body to absorb , but gluten is not bad in fact our stomach bacteria thrive off it , dont be afraid to eat bread with gluten! At the end of the day stick to whole plant based foods .. anything after that is questionable
Soy isn't much of a health food because it's far too high in fat, but it's certainly not going to seriously damage your health the same way meat and dairy will. However if what you're looking for is the optimal, ideal diet for humans, soy and other nuts and seeds wouldn't be included. Still okay in moderation.
What about soy products you find in stores WITHOUT dairy and/or eggs in it, which I don't buy anyways. Like Boca Burgers? There are SO many veggie burgers on the market these days amongst "many" other things. I'm sure they are not all bad for us right? I read the ingredients and don't buy any soy products that have anything to do with animal products. Any recommendation on which soy products to buy like that? I buy soy products strictly to avoid animal products all together. Thanks
I respectfully disagree. It's true that RGBH is damaging. But soy is too. We don't have to choose between drinking adulterated cow's milk and consuming soy products. A third choice is to drink raw, unpasteurized, organic, unadulterated milk from cows and goats, which are not high in the hormones you're talking about. Raw organic cows' and goats' milk was consumed for centuries without harm; since soy was added to the human diet, we've been seeing accelerated maturity in girls. Soy is harmful.
I think that the myths about soy being harmful are most likely something the dairy industry came up with about the time soymilk became a competitor to dairy milk.
First, I only used Mimi as an example. Second, Mimi hasn't been vegan as long as I have. She is a baby vegan in every sense of the word but still looks amazing. The 111 year old man does still eat soy. It's all a personal choice. I think it's wrong to demonize a food product if you don't have a legitimate reason. You don't. You only have the bad information and lies spread by Kayla and Sally with no research to support their claims.
What about soy milk - organic and non GMO from Costco. I'm wondering if that's highly processed. I like to use it in a baked oatmeal recipe. I could also use rice milk but already have a ton of the soy milk. Any thoughts, anyone?
Thank you for the caution, but that has not been my experience. Since giving up soy and going "paleo plus raw dairy," virtually all of my health problems have vanished. There is no sign of that reversing. My friends who have continued down the road I was on, eating lots of soy and avoiding animal products, are generally sickly and look older than their years. I'm grateful every day that I gave up "high soy" and got back on a healthy diet. Take care my friend and I wish you good health.
Grate a block of traditional tofu, non-seasoned like you'de grate cheese, chop up a bunch of parsley, run some garlics through a press, lots of good black/red pepper, a pinch of salt, grind a dry piece of white bread, mash up some eggplant, fine grate some carrot, add water and make some tofu-burgers or patties....I love 'em....
Soy has 1000x more phytoestrogens then ANY other food on the planet, next being Flax which is very high as well but Soy is just ridiculously high, its not discriminated against for no reason, and almost all of soy is GMO.
A phytoestrogen does not have the same effects in the body that real estrogen has. Phytoestrogens protect you from the damaging effects of real estrogens. If you want to avoid real estrogen, then don't eat meat or dairy products. And no one has to eat soy, there are countless ways to get plant proteins. If you eat soy, then get organic and minimally processed.
Oh no ... I do not use any soy products aside from soy ice-cream ... sigh ... but this is the UK so they would not be genetically modified ... so no Tofutti or Swedish Glace? I will bear up as best I can ...
I'm always surprised that tempeh isn't more popular in the US. I think it's great and is wonderful in a stirfry, though the truth is I don't eat it often because it's ridiculously expensive here. I don't think he mentioned soy sauce, but I admit, I'd find that hard to give up. I flavor my brown rice and lentils with it all the time. Honestly, though, with so many things in this world that are bad for us, I'm not going to sweat soy sauce. :-)
I eaten before texturised soy protein in the form of mince meat or escalope. It's common in my country I don't know if in usa. Chinese shop could sell it. It is also not good for eating?
how are those "soy granules" made that you need to rehydrate and that look a little like cooked ground meat? are they made from isolated soy protein aswell? :(
I love home made soy milk. I use Laura Soy Beans - they are organic and NO GMO! They make the best soy milk and tofu. (I hope I get a kick back from the company for that) lol I stopped using the beans because of all the hype that soy wasn't good for us. Now that I'm on the McDougall plan I am so THRILLED to see real soy is okay. I'm now back on to making my own soy milk again. Thank you, Mr. McDougall.
Rawmark, first I want to say I respect your opinion and respect you, and thank you for responding. But I disagree on this question. To relate a personal experience, I ate a great deal of soy for ten years of my life. During those ten years I got very sick. When I quit soy (under protest) and went on a diet similar to Weston-Price, my health was regained almost immediately. Of course some people have different experiences. Take care, and I wish you good health and a good life my friend.
Have you ever tried coconut milk? My son likes soy and I like the almond so we compromise and both drink coconut as it our favorite and then switch with only one other milk like the soy or almond. It seems to be less creamy but wasn't to hard for us to adjust to.
is soy sauce a traditional soy product? I know ideally he says go low sodium but I've also watched his discussion on salt as a scapegoat, so at this point in my life I feel behooved to include as much sodium as it takes for me to enjoy & to stay high carb. That said, I'm currently living in Thailand so soy sauce is a staple dressing - is it OK to have or no?
Most traditionally made brands of soy sauce are fine. Just check the ingredients label, to make sure it doesn't contain any of the soy protein isolate.
Asian people have been traditionally eating natural soy foods every day, apparently 2-3 servings a day, varying in food choice from country to country. And they were just fine, fit and healthy martial artists all along. The bad rep soy foods get is highly speculative and theoretical, making lousy mistakes like confusing PHYTOestrogen with actual oestrogen found in dairy and meat. The medical data however proves soy foods as very healthy. Containing many micronutrients like flavenoids and phytochemicals. Known to us scientists as health promoting foods that slim you down and improve cognitive functions.
agreed. i think it's all the processed soy meats that are giving soy a bad name...but they are still way better than eating real meat, and i think the bad reputation is not warranted. people will promote eating actual dead bodies over a burger made from soybeans or think that dairy is less harmful than soy...no way it is. Not even close.
yeh i was doing rice milk for over a year but i noticed i was feeling weird after drinking it sometimes but i loved the taste of it. Came to find out they were putting arsenic in the rice milk i heard so i stopped lol. But now i just started almond milk recently, i like it, i may try and make my own or be lazy and buy it lol depending on how i feel.
unfortunately, the mock meat game has stepped up like 10 levels in the past couple of years. It tastes so, so good. I eat way too much of it and need to wean myself off of it. But they are great for people transitioning to veganism because they are really convincing and still better than eating a rotting a body part, even if they're "unhealthy."
i love having a moment with dr. mcdougall
Never thought I'd say this but love you Dr. John McDougall!! You are amazing and so rare and honest.
I canNOT believe I agree with Dr. McDougall!
Thank you very much Mr. J. McDougall for these informations !
This is wonderfully clear
Thank you for making it easy to understand
Hi rawmark, there are always exceptions. I agree that Mimi Kirk looks wonderful. I don't mean any disrespect toward Jay Kordich, he seems to be a nice man, but he doesn't look younger than his age. He looks about as young/ healthy as my dad was at that age. I certainly agree with him that drinking lots of raw veggie juices is good for your health and longevity, and I expect it's doing him a lot of good. Raw juices are great, but are best when added to a paleo diet with animal protein sources.
I entirely agree. over 30 years ago, when I became vegetarian, the number of fake meat products on the market was really limited. Transition from a Standard American Diet to vegetarian reqired learning how to prepare meals using traditional soy products like Tofu, Tempeh and Miso.
I never regretted learning how to use these products, but found that to much soy did cause digetive problems. Backing off soy quickly began to resolve matters. I began to find a kind of balance while made things better quickly.
After some thinking about the issue I conclused that, because North Americans eat so much meat, meals tend to be centred on it. When moving to a vegetarian diet, one tends to naturally consider the source of protein as being of primary importance. This leads to making meals with a huge chunk of tofu or tempeh at the centre of the plate where the meat once was.
It is hard a first to move away from this kind of thinking. In truth, I eventually learned that all plant food contains protein. However virtually none of this has all the essential amino acids to be classified as complete protein. By eating a wide variety of foods the required amino acids are then combined in the body to make complete protein. Soy is rich in amino acids, so can - if eaten in small amounts contribute to the protein profile.
When I became vegetarian I was taught that it was important to get all the essential amino acids at the same time. This I was told should be done by eating nuts, seeds, grains and beans in the same meal, or at least within a few hours of each other. These foods each contained some of the 9 essential amino acids needed to make complete protein. However, many years later, I learned that this way of food combining is not required and is based on a long standing myth.
Last year I became a vegan. When I did I saw some wonderful videos by various doctors and nutritionists debunking myths about food combiing and protein. From those videos i learned that the body grabs and stores amino acids in tissue ad hock. This means that foods containing various amino acids can be eaten a differnet times and do not have to be combined in the same meal.
The value of knowing this is that it makes meal planning simpler. One does not have to stress out about getting all the essential amino acids for complete protein in a single meal. It also means you don't have to be as concerned about the source of those amino acids.
Once you understand that incomplete protein is present in all plant food you can relax and enjoy your meal. Once you understand that the old rules about food combining are more myth than real, it's easier to eat as you please instead of thinking of each meal like a science experiment.
For me the most liberating part of all this was getting my head out of meat based thinking. Once you understand that you do not need a big chunk of protein at the centre of your plate, either from animal or plant sources - everything changes.
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This gentleman it is absolutely hilarious and help tremendously with my conversion to the right nutrition Bravo McDougall family.
I really like mcdougall, and I like how he points out traditional soy products are okay, because they have been proven so for millenniums. Second time watching this little short, old but still valid. I think two ounces is obviously on the lower end of what is acceptable (Gregor shows actual evidence of 3-5 servings seemingly acceptably healthy), but I like the message.
I wanted to make palak paneer but now i think I'll order it out when occasionally i want it rather than add soy to my diet.
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That's awesome. I eat some soy products. I got off the vegan cheese though, I replaced that with nutritional yeast. As a newbie, only vegan for 16 months I am still learning and am realizing there is alot of vegan junk food out there. I do the mean green juice still fro the film "fat, sick and nearly dead"
I'm very grateful for Dr. McDougall.
Great info!
Dr. McDougall is a ROCK STAR ! Thank you sir for helping me and millions of others take control of our health.
Dr. McDougall is the BOMB!! Cut out that meat, dairy and processed foods if you want optimal health well into your old age! Look at our parents generation, no way in hell I'm going to go out like that. VEGAN FTW!!!
You're one of the few straight thinking people I know. I spend too much time trying to debunk carnivore and paleo-logic on their channels, and it can be tiring...
Time to do a workout
@@Academic_G lol still haven't realised that veganism is one of the most unnatural diets a human can follow.... and your boy simnett is on steroids...
@@youtubeuser7798 He isn't on steroids dude, he is a natty, just like e.g. Shawn Baker. Many omnivores have nutrient deficiencies, which has been shown in a lot of studies. What do u mean with 'unnatural'?
If a species doesn't feel hunger when encountering a corpse, it's unnatural that the species eats it. What do you mean?
@@youtubeuser7798 What about this? www.riseofthevegan.com/blog/only-male-us-weightlifter-in-olympics-is-vegan
He is showing onset of Dementia in recent interview and looks very unhealthy.
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And yes, most soy is GMO. But you actually hardly ever have to worry about that if you're vegan. Most of the GM soy is fed to "livestock" animals. At least 90% of soy products that are marketed to vegans (soymilk, tofu, tempeh, mock meats) are actually organic because the companies know that vegans tend to be more health conscious and likely to avoid GMOs.
What about soy "yogurt"?
What about organic soy milk?
Or 'organic' rice milk.
It's fine. It's sure a hell of a lot better than bovine, ovine, or hircine mammary secretions.
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I think organic rice milk is best, lowest in fats, non-allergenic related like almond-type milks may be, and a good source of carohydrates. Basically in a general sense, anything 'asian related' in food is good for you.. rice over wheat, fish over meat/dairy etc.. depending where its sourced of course.
let's face reality: while it is ideal to eat as close to a whole food plant based diet as possible even including some traditional soy foods, it is a nice first transitional step for people to have access to veggie\soy burgers or other mock meat products.
it really helped me out while I was still trying to learn to enjoy more plants and then the more I started enjoying a bowl of lentils and kale with steamed carrots or something for instance, the less I cared about the mock meat products. i don't get the highly processed soy isolate and egg veggie burgers anymore but I do instead get from time to time veggie burgers that are made out of minimally processed plant foods like burger patties made from quinoa, bulgur wheat, black beans or something like that (no eggs now) but those other ones were a really good helpful stepping stone.
but that's just my experience with it.
Very well said. Besides that, there's no harm in having some processed faux meats (soy protein isolates) from time to time, they're high in protein and fiber usually, and frankly speaking, are way healthier than most things people eat nowadays.
One shouldn't be so quick to denounce certain foods, especially given the diets people have nowadays.
Thank you for the info...
This guy is a legend :-) Tempeh ftw!
and... if you are going to eat soy, make sure it's organic. Soy beans are one of the largest Genetically Modified crops in the U.S. along with Corn.
So... is stuff like SOY cheeses worse for us than regular cheese? Should I just stick with normal cheese if I had to make a choice then? Which is worse for our health overall?? Please tell me. I already know what the answer is for the environmental and moral reasons, but what about the health factor Doctor Mcdougall? There is so much information out there and I am totally looking for the answers. Thanks.
bang on.
what about soy milk ?
Thank you ( I gave up all the fake meat products . I was about to go as far as throwing out my Bragg s liquid amino. I will keep it ) , .
Those are not "fake foods", they are "fake not foods"
Surprised he did not mention natto.
No, not Bernando LaPallo. He's not the oldest and he's not vegan.
Very often the Soybeans are pressed thru extractions of a petroleum-based product called Hexane
Are you talking about Bernando LaPallo? He eats fish, so he isn't vegan.
I have searched for a long time for a diet that makes sense and that is palatable. Dr. McDougall has hit it on the head for me. I am glad to know that he says we can leave out soy products. I don't like soy and especially tofu. I am especially concerned about most soy beans in the USA are genetically modified. I watch Dr. McDougall and his wife on their cooking shows and every one of them seem that they would be very edible and also the dishes she cooks are easy to make with ingredients that are readily available (no 70 mile round trip to our nearest health food store). Keep up the good work. In another video I saw where the Doc does not claim to be a vegetarian because once every 2 years he and his wife cook and eat a small portion of turkey on Thanksgiving. I lke that! So many cheat on Thanksgivings and Christmas and cook up the ole turkey, and then they tell people, "I am a vegetarian." Well, no, you're not. Anyway, to me Dr. McDougall's advice on diet is the most down-to-earth, both healthy and palatable diet I have found to date. GO DR. McDOUGALL!!!
You definitely do not need to consume soy in order to be vegetarian. If you don't like it, don't eat it. I do like tofu now. The secret lies in marinating it for a long time for it to have the flavor sink in.
***** Nonsense. You can't buy GMO versions of those foods! And you most definitely cannot simply go out and buy GMO versions of the seed to grow it! They are licensed and their sale used for biofuel and animal feed. So much hype and so little facts...
*****
If you knew what you were talking about you would know that the Senators here in the United States struck down an amendment that would allow states to regulate the labeling of GMO foods.
The amendment, as part of the massive, wide-ranging Farm Bill, was overwhelmingly rejected by Senators on Thursday in a 71-27 vote, would have supported and clarified the existing rights of states to enact their own laws requiring the labeling of genetically engineered foods.
But NONE of that matters. TRY to buy GMO products. Try it! They are restricted! Both the seed and the final product! The available market is NOT in the 'standard food chain' as you fantasize!
Oh, I know folks like you will run about claiming GMOs are everywhere, but TRY to buy the seed to plant! TRY IT! It is a complex process for farmers to even get a license to use it!
And after all is said and done, GMOs are like gluten, the lowest source of concern in the larger issue of an optimally healthy complete balanced whole food plant based low sugar low fat diet.
Stop the anecdotal BS and find out the facts.
*****
Can you read for meaning????
One wonders what use a label would be if you cannot fathom the FACT that the Congress JUST LAST WEEK overrode each state's ability to require their identification and labeling of GMOs!!!!
*****
Dumbfk, GMOs have NOT proven to be a problem from a scientific POV if you would bother to actually read the scientific studies - as McDougall has stated and which are summariezed at Nutritionfacts.org. So YOU are the only one running about like Chicken Little. But YOUR admonition to check the labeling has ALSO been torpedoed as Congress has just STOPPED any state efforts to HAVE them labeled! DUH!
In other words, even if idiots like yourself demand it, federal law has just said that the states CANNOT require labeling.
So, you stupid fkwad, YOU are the only one worried about their labeling or identification and YOU are the only one who thinks that they are common in the food system.
Now shutup, as you have REPEATEDLY misinterpreted everything that has been said by EVERYONE
So where does one find soy that hasn't been genetically modified (GMO) or RoundUp ready soy? I don't like eating foods soaked in RoundUp pesticides. It gets incorporated into the soy and can't be washed off.
That was before genetic modification came in. Now soy is pointless to eat because of the incredibly high percentage of GMO.
What makes soy so special that another legume cannot be used in its place? Why can't tofu, tempeh and other traditional soy products be made with another legume?
Why risk eating GMO when there are other crops that have significantly less chance of being GMO?
tempeh is my favorite soy product
+matchbox555 Can't find that nearby me. But there is tofu. Mix it with rice and curry, it gets so delicious.
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Yah a little bit is ok, if you eat soy at every meal however your overdosing a bit.
Should we only be eating fermented soy?
I've studied nutrition, and was unanimously lead to believe that only fermented soy was digestable. That GMO soy is not fit for human consumption, it's altered so that it can be sprayed with roundup,it's roundup resistant, it's also modified for animal feed, with antibiotics and hormones. That the isolates are waste products and toxic. I've enjoyed eating steamed soy beans, and I used to drink soy milk, I'm open minded. I used to eat tofu, hmmmmm
+Robert Aldo True, stay away, FAR AWAY from GMO soy.
Just do almond or rice milk.
P.S. If you Google Mimi Kirk, you'll find interviews in which she states that she *** does not *** eat any soy. She recommends totally avoiding all soy products. Her protein all comes from greens, hemp seeds, chia seeds and sprouts. She warns on her blog about avoiding soy, and avoiding eating any foods that are "cross contaminiated" with soy from being processed in the same plant. (This is why she recommends avoiding Braggs aminos, for example).
What part of "complete balanced Whole plant based low sugar low fat no meat, eggs, dairy or oil" is complicated?
C. Esselstyn, T. Colin Campbell, and J McDougall, as well as M. Greger's research summaries at at NutritionFactsdotorg are the standards for reference.
I love soymilk (homemade) and tofu.we take them almost every single day.
I like eating food that had parents! that excludes soy!
Hi rawmark, on that we agree. I was eating an all organic diet rich in fruits and vegetables. Unfortunately I was also eating soy (in the form of lots of organic tofu and soy milk, which made me sick and tired all the time. As soon as I stopped the soy, and added organic grass-fed meat and raw milk from grass-fed cows to my diet I got healthy again. At this point I'd say we've both made our points and should probably just agree to disagree. Take care, and I wish you good health and long life.
is soy milk ok?
Dr. McDougal... I have a question about the fitnessfoods.
What about protein powders? Soy-, Rice-, Bean-protein? The ones to make a vegan protein shake with? Do they raise IGF1? Are they dangerous? What is your opinion?
So the isolated soy protein used to make fake soy meats is not good. What's the advice on isolated wheat protein (gluten) to make seitan - is that bad also?
most likely , anything over processed like gluten itself would be hard for the body to absorb , but gluten is not bad in fact our stomach bacteria thrive off it , dont be afraid to eat bread with gluten!
At the end of the day stick to whole plant based foods .. anything after that is questionable
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what kind of artist?
@Dawn2388 usda organic prohibits the use of gmo foods
I have never eaten meat, so I have no desire to eat fake meat or anything that looks like meat.
Soy isn't much of a health food because it's far too high in fat, but it's certainly not going to seriously damage your health the same way meat and dairy will. However if what you're looking for is the optimal, ideal diet for humans, soy and other nuts and seeds wouldn't be included. Still okay in moderation.
Is soy milk just regular milk introducing itself in Spanish? McDougall, I love your soup.
What about soy products you find in stores WITHOUT dairy and/or eggs in it, which I don't buy anyways. Like Boca Burgers? There are SO many veggie burgers on the market these days amongst "many" other things. I'm sure they are not all bad for us right? I read the ingredients and don't buy any soy products that have anything to do with animal products. Any recommendation on which soy products to buy like that? I buy soy products strictly to avoid animal products all together. Thanks
Well, who are you talking about then?
I respectfully disagree. It's true that RGBH is damaging. But soy is too. We don't have to choose between drinking adulterated cow's milk and consuming soy products. A third choice is to drink raw, unpasteurized, organic, unadulterated milk from cows and goats, which are not high in the hormones you're talking about. Raw organic cows' and goats' milk was consumed for centuries without harm; since soy was added to the human diet, we've been seeing accelerated maturity in girls. Soy is harmful.
What about soy milk and soy yogurt?
I think that the myths about soy being harmful are most likely something the dairy industry came up with about the time soymilk became a competitor to dairy milk.
Weston A. Price Foundation did a lot of anti-soy studies but they also promoted coconut oil.
First, I only used Mimi as an example. Second, Mimi hasn't been vegan as long as I have. She is a baby vegan in every sense of the word but still looks amazing. The 111 year old man does still eat soy. It's all a personal choice. I think it's wrong to demonize a food product if you don't have a legitimate reason. You don't. You only have the bad information and lies spread by Kayla and Sally with no research to support their claims.
What about soy milk - organic and non GMO from Costco. I'm wondering if that's highly processed. I like to use it in a baked oatmeal recipe. I could also use rice milk but already have a ton of the soy milk. Any thoughts, anyone?
Thank you for the caution, but that has not been my experience. Since giving up soy and going "paleo plus raw dairy," virtually all of my health problems have vanished. There is no sign of that reversing. My friends who have continued down the road I was on, eating lots of soy and avoiding animal products, are generally sickly and look older than their years. I'm grateful every day that I gave up "high soy" and got back on a healthy diet. Take care my friend and I wish you good health.
Nils.. Hi.. 8 years later .. how's your health ? Thanks
@@vrossi2596 I'm doing well, thanks.
How is your health?
@@Nilsosmar Lol.. Fine thanks , although heading vegan .. and enjoying it ..👍
Grate a block of traditional tofu, non-seasoned like you'de grate cheese, chop up a bunch of parsley, run some garlics through a press, lots of good black/red pepper, a pinch of salt, grind a dry piece of white bread, mash up some eggplant, fine grate some carrot, add water and make some tofu-burgers or patties....I love 'em....
Soy has 1000x more phytoestrogens then ANY other food on the planet, next being Flax which is very high as well but Soy is just ridiculously high, its not discriminated against for no reason, and almost all of soy is GMO.
A phytoestrogen does not have the same effects in the body that real estrogen has. Phytoestrogens protect you from the damaging effects of real estrogens. If you want to avoid real estrogen, then don't eat meat or dairy products. And no one has to eat soy, there are countless ways to get plant proteins. If you eat soy, then get organic and minimally processed.
What about textured soy protein?
Is it ok to ear a high amount of tofu every day? And what about textured soy?
Oh no ... I do not use any soy products aside from soy ice-cream ... sigh ... but this is the UK so they would not be genetically modified ... so no Tofutti or Swedish Glace? I will bear up as best I can ...
LOL-- fair point. Indeed.
I'm always surprised that tempeh isn't more popular in the US. I think it's great and is wonderful in a stirfry, though the truth is I don't eat it often because it's ridiculously expensive here.
I don't think he mentioned soy sauce, but I admit, I'd find that hard to give up. I flavor my brown rice and lentils with it all the time. Honestly, though, with so many things in this world that are bad for us, I'm not going to sweat soy sauce. :-)
I like almond milk over soy milk.
Only internet CRANKS bash soy. The Okinwans ate soy DAILY with no issues. Joseph Mercola has MISLEAD you.
Mercola has said many questionable things.
I eaten before texturised soy protein in the form of mince meat or escalope. It's common in my country I don't know if in usa. Chinese shop could sell it. It is also not good for eating?
what about organic soy Dr. Mcdougall? should we use almond milk or coconut milk as a substitute for cereal I eat kashi lean fiber rich cereal.
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Where does soy milk fit into this?? Is it considered traditional or ultra processed?
I hate soy
how are those "soy granules" made that you need to rehydrate and that look a little like cooked ground meat? are they made from isolated soy protein aswell? :(
I love home made soy milk. I use Laura Soy Beans - they are organic and NO GMO! They make the best soy milk and tofu. (I hope I get a kick back from the company for that) lol
I stopped using the beans because of all the hype that soy wasn't good for us. Now that I'm on the McDougall plan I am so THRILLED to see real soy is okay. I'm now back on to making my own soy milk again. Thank you, Mr. McDougall.
Rawmark, first I want to say I respect your opinion and respect you, and thank you for responding. But I disagree on this question. To relate a personal experience, I ate a great deal of soy for ten years of my life. During those ten years I got very sick. When I quit soy (under protest) and went on a diet similar to Weston-Price, my health was regained almost immediately. Of course some people have different experiences. Take care, and I wish you good health and a good life my friend.
Have you ever tried coconut milk? My son likes soy and I like the almond so we compromise and both drink coconut as it our favorite and then switch with only one other milk like the soy or almond. It seems to be less creamy but wasn't to hard for us to adjust to.
is soy sauce a traditional soy product? I know ideally he says go low sodium but I've also watched his discussion on salt as a scapegoat, so at this point in my life I feel behooved to include as much sodium as it takes for me to enjoy & to stay high carb. That said, I'm currently living in Thailand so soy sauce is a staple dressing - is it OK to have or no?
Most traditionally made brands of soy sauce are fine. Just check the ingredients label, to make sure it doesn't contain any of the soy protein isolate.
Yup. Good thing there's plenty of organic soy products where I live :)
is soy sauce ok
Sure, but watch your sodium intake. It is extremely easy to over do sodium with soy sauce.
Asian people have been traditionally eating natural soy foods every day, apparently 2-3 servings a day, varying in food choice from country to country. And they were just fine, fit and healthy martial artists all along.
The bad rep soy foods get is highly speculative and theoretical, making lousy mistakes like confusing PHYTOestrogen with actual oestrogen found in dairy and meat. The medical data however proves soy foods as very healthy. Containing many micronutrients like flavenoids and phytochemicals. Known to us scientists as health promoting foods that slim you down and improve cognitive functions.
agreed. i think it's all the processed soy meats that are giving soy a bad name...but they are still way better than eating real meat, and i think the bad reputation is not warranted. people will promote eating actual dead bodies over a burger made from soybeans or think that dairy is less harmful than soy...no way it is. Not even close.
Unabashed Melancholy Exactly
hebince44 Yeah those Asians are also feminine. Soy may make you healthy but your going to be a scrawny fuck with no muscles.
Edward Huang I do 10 pull-ups in a row, easily.
Don‘t believe everything you hear. 🙂
@@edwardhuang1590 that's because the asians of today/modern times eat like Americans now, not like their ancient ancestors.
Soy MILK??
yeh i was doing rice milk for over a year but i noticed i was feeling weird after drinking it sometimes but i loved the taste of it. Came to find out they were putting arsenic in the rice milk i heard so i stopped lol. But now i just started almond milk recently, i like it, i may try and make my own or be lazy and buy it lol depending on how i feel.
Non-GMO soy is fine, but either way the processed soy isn't very healthy. Eat as many whole foods as possible, that's the best way to go.
All soy makes me instantly feel like shit.
Most soy products are fermented. It is with all soy related things. Even soy oil.
I like tofu scramble however i can give up the fake meats...some don't taste good anyway
unfortunately, the mock meat game has stepped up like 10 levels in the past couple of years. It tastes so, so good. I eat way too much of it and need to wean myself off of it. But they are great for people transitioning to veganism because they are really convincing and still better than eating a rotting a body part, even if they're "unhealthy."
he offers no proof here.