I hear ya man. When a guy was full of piss and vinegar and a nice breeze would make the old trouser monster stand straight up lol. No internet tough guys back then either.Now we have agendas and people with a thorn up their ass thinking the world somehow owes them a favor. Simpler times indeed.
@@peteandrepete528 You sound like a guy that's not only strong and rugged in person, but quite virile as well. I hope you've found a way to tame that monster of yours. "It" must be an impressive sight. You really give off a groovy vibe.
Whenever you feel stressed, please say these words: "Dear God, thank you for my eyes, thank you for my ears, thank you for my hands, thank you for my feet, thank you for my heart....you are so good to me!" Gabe, focus on your blessings please, not your problems. I love you but God loves you way more.
I didn't think idiotic comments like that by announcers went back as far as 1990. It's hard to believe Jim Gray actually got paid to deliver us absolutely useless nonsense like this.
Also, it takes the announcers almost two minutes to realize that Clemens had been ejected. So, they're not watching the action closely, and no one else in the back room saw it and told them in their ear what's going on. Everyone at home saw it, but the people making thousands of dollars to describe the action both do not see what's going on right in front of them.
CBS’ baseball production was a huge drop-off from NBC and even ABC. NBC’s Game of the Week was the best, esp. with Vin and Joe. Not exactly an original observation but NBC was so good at presenting baseball in the 80’s.
@@16rumpole yep that's why Rickey should easily be the all time walks leader and was for a while. But Barry Bonds stole it from him when he started being walked all the time after he used steroids.
When I was a kid my dad brought me to a pre-season game. After the game we stood out back to get autographs while the team got on their bus. All the dudes were nice, signing autographs, shaking hands, taking pictures. Clemens comes out and just starts yelling at all the kids "WATCH OUT, GET OUT MY WAY" and so on. Keep in mind we were behind barricades, so no one was really in his way. All of our dads just started talking shit to him back and he wanted to go after us kids and our dads. Fuck that dude.
Ok. When I was a kid Clemens came to see me in the hospital the day before I had heart surgery. He asked me if he could do anything and I asked him to come see me when it was over. Day after the surgery he showed up. The next year at spring training in winter haven my dad brought me to a game and Roger was signing autographs. I waited and when it was my turn he immediately recognized me and remembered my name. He asked my dad where we were sitting and after about the 5th inning an usher cake and let us know that Mr Clemens invited us to one of the outer fields. He spent about 30 minutes with me playing catch and teaching me how to throw pitches. I don’t doubt that he’s a hot head nor do I doubt your story. But he did so much more for me than I could ever expect. And I was far from the only one he did things like this for. We’re all flawed and at our worst moments but he taught me to give to people in need. I’ll always be thankful for that.
Never been a Clemens fan the rules were different for him compared to others. Mike Piazza should have charged the mound. None of the Yankees wanted to defend him throwing a piece of the broken bat at Piazza his excuse of saying "I thought it was the ball." Hello you throw a ball to first base not a runner.
I agree that throwing out a starting pitcher in a game like this is ridiculous. However, Clemens has to have some degree of self control knowing what is on the line
Let's just be glad Clemens didn't throw a bat at an umpire, or something like that. Early in his career or late in his career, Clemens was always a showboating hothead with an ego of eggshells.
This was the first year I fell in love with baseball, I was 11. Thankfully I only had to go through 13 years of heartache before the curse was broken, but I remember this sting all too well.
CBS interviewed Clemens when he got to the clubhouse and he said he was going to ice his arm down and be ready to start tomorrow if the Sox won (they were down 3-0). I remember hoping they would win to see what happened in Game 5, but it didn't happen.
@@johndfw8680 Yes there are. Whenever there are two LCS games on the same day, one is a day game. I suppose it could be a late start like 5:00 if it's on the east coast, but there were day games @ Dodger Stadium last year. Just the World Series is always in prime time, as it should be.
The only time the fans go on the field at Fenway Park is after we won a World Series haven't you been paying attention lately when we won all those World Series and you didn't.
I personally dont care, it made better baseball and if guys want to take the chance on harming their bodies to gain, hey go for it. Obviously I understand the reasons for not allowing it, but its just my personal opinion.
1990? Nah. It was just basically Canseco and maybe McGwire back then. It didn't become more wide spread until after the strike. So frustrating, all the MLB needed to do back then aside from the obvious of instituting random PED testing for everyone .....was at least looking into guys like Canseco that were obvious. Hell Boston fans were chanting "Steroids" at him, then he flexed to the crowd 🤣( Alpha move by the way) MLB shoulda looked into it and demanded a steroid test or something. They do that and the message would be clear....blatant steroid use won't be tolerated, and would fuck up your reputation and money. Instead they did nothing, and in effect there was no rule against steroids since no one was tested, investigated or even mildly rebuked out of the public eye. No one said or did anything; not the MLB, not the PA, not the fans, and not the media. PEDs were de facto greenlighted.....thats why I don't really blame 90s guys for using or curse them for their lack of "integrity"....rule isn't really a rule if there's absolutely zero enforcement nor a stigma against breaking it. The MLBPA didn't want random testing for recreational drugs bc everyone was doing blow and amphetamines back in the 80s and 90s
@@davidca96 I don't think any of the 90s users owe any1 an apology for anything. There was no testing, no oversight, no questions ever asked by the MLB. On top of that fans and media didn't care or said anything it's not really a rule if it's totally unenforced and unacknowledged by all parties involved
1:10...Boston actually broke that record, losing 15 straight games from 1986-1999 (last two vs Mets 86 WS, all eight vs A's in 1988/90 ALCS, three vs Cleveland in 1995 ALDS and first two vs Cleveland in 1999 ALDS) before improbably coming back from down 0-2 to beat Cleveland in the 1999 ALDS.
Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot not exactly. In 1998 ALDS Boston won Game 1 vs Cleveland, losing the series 3 games to 1. Total losing streak was only(!) 13 games, then another 5 game losing streak before game 3 the following year.
The first game I ever went to was in Oakland with a Stewart/Clemens matchup. A’s won 1-0. Stewart threw 134 pitches in a CG SO. Absolute perfection. August 30, 1988.
Clemens was clearly in the wrong, but I do agree that umps these days do tend to have quick triggers when it comes to ejections these days as compared to the past.
Yes it's become a major issue with Umpires that have over-inflated egos and think they can do whatever they want including tossing players if they disagree with a call. I have to side with the announcer here, he should issue a warning then if he continues eject him. Simular to what the do what a batter is hit by a pitch unless it is obvious that was what the pitcher was going for was to hit the batter.
Sometimes umpires miss calls. And these misses can and do affect the outcome of very crucial games. The calls on Randolph in this video most certainly did look like strikes. And the umpire should have at least given a warning. The ump should have handled it better.
I always thought Clemens got himself tossed on purpose. He was on his way to getting dusted and with his huge ego he didn't want to get blown out in an elimination game.
Everybody missed it when Clemens got tossed - the CBS cameras, announcers, even the Oakland fans didn't react immediately. You'd think that a cataclysmic event like Roger Clemens being ejected from a postseason game in the 2nd inning would have been a major meltdown type deal, but nobody realized it at the time it happened.
Stewart later said he thought Clemens realized he had nothing that day and was going to get beat, and intentionally got himself ejected so he'd have that as a fig leaf when his team lost. He added something like "Same old Roger Clemens, never coming through for his team when it counts the most." Not a lot of respect there. He did dominate head-to-head match-ups with Clemens over the years.
Jack Son he had to quit umpiring due to death threats so they were trying to rehabilitate his name in the media so that people would forget about the call. It didn’t work and all it did was bring more attention. It’s such a shame because if replay had been allowed in 1985 it never would have happened
That ball 4 to Randolph was right over the plate....like directly over. See why he was pissed. Not an excuse for using foul language, but the ball was right over the plate.
The pitch before that was called a strike but looked high and in, Randolph looked back at Cooney on that one like wtf then took “ball 4” which was indeed a strike. Roger wasn’t looking too good so maybe he did jack his jaws for an ejection. Well he sure got it!
I’ve always been a Red Sox fan, but in 1988 and 1990, the A’s just had a much better team. Indeed, the surprising aspect about that dominant A’s team is that they only won one World Series Championship in that period. The Dodgers beat them in ‘88, and the Reds in ‘90.
Mark Cianfarani The Gibson home run definitely was a huge factor. Very dramatic, coming off the bench, barely able to walk. But Dodgers pitcher Orel Hershiser (not sure on the spelling) was just about unhittable in that Series also.
@@johnfitzpatrick3094 Th '88 Dodgers were, but the '90 Reds weren't that much better. Cincy should have won at least 100 in the NL West that year. Then they beat the "perennially striking-out in playoff games" Pirates. The A's had more of a mental edge in '89, after the '88 loss. In 1990, they seemingly took a nap for a week after sweeping Boston, and acted like the WS was over as soon as they arrived. Well, it was...
@@brianoneill7186, I agree with the last part, but the Reds also had stiff competition from the Dodgers and Giants. They also had a lights out bullpen.
@Kevin Michael Agreed. It was the last two games, where the Dodger starting lineup had been depleted by injuries, that were surprising, particularly Game4, when sloppiness and a couple of errors killed the A's. The Reds in 1990 were fortunate get the sweep, before the loss of Hatcher and Davis could hurt them too much.
Let's go back to the studio to get the perspective of the umpire who blew the 1985 World Series for St. Louis, and who that entire team - led by Joaquin Andujar - tried to kill in Game 7. LMAO
Was it Dickingers fault Jack Clark dropped a pop up, was Dickingers fault Todd Worrell & Darrell Porter allowed wild pitch or passed ball, did Don Dickinger allow the game winning hit, did Don Dickinger get destroyed in Game 7 did Don Dickinger blow a 2 games to 0 lead or a 3 games to 1 lead???? No the Cardinals blew it & made Dickinger take the hit!!!!
the Clemens meltdown begins at 7:10 when an inside pitch to Willie Randolph is called a strike, and then is followed by a pitch in the same location that's called a ball...
@@e2go the first one was borderline and called a strike. The second one was clearly a strike and called a ball so yeah Clemens had a strong case for calling the ump out.
I miss when you had to win your division to make the playoffs. It truly meant something to be in the playoffs then, although I think the Sox only won 89 games that year.
I don't miss those days at all. I'm a Jays fan, after the mid 90s when the Yankees and Red Sox started buying up all star teams, I knew in April my team wasn't making playoffs no matter how good they looked on paper. Lots of years in there when the Jays could have won the central or west, but were doomed to miss the playoffs in the east. An expanded playoff actually gives fans in most markets something to look forward to on any given year. It's far better for keeping an interest in the game.
If my ace got chucked I would be upset. If I were Barrett, I would have laid a beating on the coach that pulled him back into the dugout. If I were the owner, I would have fired the coach on the spot.
Kinda hard when fastballs directly over the plate are called balls about 7 times. Cooney was an asshole and Denkinger was an expert at blowing big calls himself.
@@anthonycarr5514 Dude, it was a joke! Jeez, I'm not an angry person. But my biggest problem seems to be that I'm not as funny as I think I am. Actually, my profession is mathematician, not "remixer"
If you read his lips, the first thing he says is "I'm not fucking talking to you". He probably was talking to himself in anger and the ump thought he was talking to him initially, but telling the ref "I'm not fucking talking to you" probably wasn't the best way to explain himself
When a player is ejected and refuses to leave the dugout they should give one warning then start tossing the manager and on down until the player has left. Game goes on even if 1 or 2 are the only ones left on the team.
John Stilwell I might agree, except for the fact that the only way to get to the clubhouse was a path that took one near to the crowd. But I think even the umpires realized they had gone too far. They let Joe Morgan get away with a lot, and they did nothing about all the stuff tossed onto the field. And the American League would never allow an ALCS game be decided on a forfeit, which is what your solution would have amounted to. No matter what Denkinger said, the fact is that ejections in the postseason are rare. When Earl Weaver (who else?) was ejected in a World Series game (late sixties or early seventies), it was the first ejection of a manager in a World Series since 1935! Again, not defending Roger, but the smarter reaction from the umpire (who had blown one of those two calls) would have been to go out, dust off the plate, and tell the catcher to get out to the mound, and tell Clemens that if he so much as glared at the ump, he would immediately be tossed. That would be his only warning. You might still have to eject him, but for the moment, it might have de-escalated the situation. Certainly the catcher would do everything he could to keep his starter in the game, and the fact is that fans want to see the best players (on both teams) playing in the biggest games.
CrociatoAzzurro Saw it live on television. I don't think anyone could forget something this surreal. This moment goes right alongside Tyson biting Holyfield in the annals of, "Huh?"
@@shannonhondo260 Yeah it's definitely not what it used to be. The athletes might be better, but the sport has diminished and the emphasis on the game has diminished.
Alex Sweet they were trying to rehabilitate his name in the media because he was getting death threats and had to quit umpiring. It didn’t work. Shows you how replay could have changed that guy’s life if they had allowed it back then
I was taken from my home by my mom and forced to go school shopping that afternoon. I kept walking by the tvs and couldn't understand why clemens was getting thrown out, the volumes were all down. I miss those days.
Man, back in these days you had to wait til end of inning to see the score. You would cut game on and have no idea of the score. Also our 22” tv’s were filled completely up with just the game. Now my 65” tv is taken up by a bottom line, score, launch angle, WAR etc., and the screen is about 22” of game. Haha.
@@jimmyjam209 1990 is not the "steroid era". Steroid era is kind of a myth in the sense that steroids wasn't the reason the league hit alot of HRS....they juiced the ball in 93/94 and HRS stayed around the same rate for 20 yrs after. Baseball in 1991 and 1992 was a different game.
@@patrickgray5633 Umpire should’ve walked out and said “enough, any more and your ejected” but like most umpires they think they are the reason people show up to game. Just ask Joe West
Interesting how there are 3 former or future Red Sox players in Oakland's starting lineup: (1) Carney Lansford, (2) Ricky Henderson, and (3) Dave Henderson (yes, the same guy who hit those dramatic home runs in the playoffs against the Angels, and World Series against the Mets in 1986).
The thing about Clemens that people need to understand is what a diva he was. Seriously, he complained he had to carry his own luggage at the airport, he said Fenway was a "subpar" facility, and not only that, but he had clauses put into later contracts that said he did not have to travel with the team if he wasn't scheduled to pitch. It's a shame, because Clemens should have had a no-nonsense manager like Jim Leyland who wouldn't have put up with his shit.
No warnings are necessary, to argue balls and strikes ends in ejection. That it was a play-off game doesn't matter. Roger is not in the HOF for a reason. Shame on CBS for calling for a suspension of the rules.
Charles Keller bro it’s the heat of the moment, it’s the playoffs, and it was a strike anyway. People don’t pay thousands and fly across the country to see an umpire, they pay to see Roger Clemens. If Clemens decides to sandbag, that’s on him, but the ump at least has to give him the chance. I don’t even think what Clemens was doing was a formal argument, he was basically saying “fuck you” from the mound. The ump clearly has very thin skin because there was no need to even acknowledge this behavior
Very sharp! Glad you picked up he was there. I was at Fenway when John homered over the Green Monster, which was most likely his last Major League home run.
KHayes666 1984. When Temple played at NCAA regional in my hometown, I was playing Konami Track and Field at the local arcade. This big dude wearing Temple gear comes in with a couple of his teammates. Little did I know until the next day when he was behind the plate for the Owls that I went at it with John Marzano. He put on a home run clinic but didn't have much of a supporting cast. Michigan (who won the regional) was loaded. Some guy by the name of Barry Larkin put on an even bigger clinic. John Marzano was a cool dude. RIH.
Now if you look at an umpire the wrong way and you’re gone. Imagine players saying you can’t throw a man out for arguing balls and strikes in a playoff game. 1990- times have changed-2023
I was in left field bleachers that game. I remember it was the first time I ever saw a pitcher wearing eye black I think he was trying to look intimidating we were laughing yelling bye bye roger was a jerk back then and obviously still is.
This was before Mark McGwire admitted to taking steroids and Roger Clemens got busted for the same thing these two players along with Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa will not get inducted into the Hall of Fame along with Pete Rose
Obviously,there was a lot of frustration going on with the Red Sox being down 3-0 and it probably has gotten to Clemens and the Sox at that time. Thankfully,2004 erased all the frustration.
Their strategy in 1990 was to show fewer playoff games in prime time, and pre-empt afternoon soap operas to promote their then-third place prime time shows. The ratings were bad all day!
@@brianoneill7186 I don't think it had to with ratings. MLB used to always have both league championship series going on the same day. In fact, one series would actually be two games in before the other series would even start, so this was not uncommon.
@@OliveOyl12590 Yes, but the 1990 League Championship Series had more day games scheduled than there had been in previous years, and TV deals. CBS set that schedule.
@@brianoneill7186 CBS also had the NFL, too. When NBC had both MLB and NFL, sometimes they'd have regional coverage weekends giving FOX or CBS, depending on who had the NFC coverage, the Sunday doubleheader for that weekend. HERE'S THE EDIT: During those weekends when NBC had MLB Championship games, ABC would probably have a west coast matchup on Monday Night Football and you'd see some of the AFC West teams hosting NFC teams on that Sunday to relieve NBC of having to worry about any late games during that time.
Clemens was getting hit hard by every batter. He couldn't handle it and rather than battle through it. As a total coward, he basically begged to be tossed. Same reason he was a roid boy. Couldn't handle the grind of trying to overcome a tough team or the problems of aging. Always took the easy way out.
The way this story is talked about now.....its completely blamed on Clemens, but in real time everyone seemed to think the ump was way out of line for ejecting an ace during a playoff game.
that's true because at the time Clemens was a very respected pitcher who had struck out 20 Mariners in a game and had won multiple Cy Young awards. Jump ahead 10 years later and he was a cheating steroid goon.
@@johnmongani5223 thats true....the writers really seem to be into this retroactive moral preening about steroids during a time no one gave a shit(including the writers) about steroids.....Its like being really really upset now in 2020 that a white guy in 1890s Georgia was racist. At least 62% of the writers(ones that vote for him) seem to have functional brains....the rest are just old crotchety holier than thou types that somehow think Harold Baines should be a HOFer, but the HR King and the guy with the best pitching career of the last century shouldn't....theres a reason those cowards want their votes kept private.
@@johnmongani5223 I just hate retroactive moralizing like this. 1990 Clemens doesn't magically become wrong (or deserving of ejection in postseason) bc his reputation has sucked for the last 13 years. Im not saying you're doing that, but its something people do that just drives me nuts.
Let's face it. Terry Cooney after getting hit years earlier by Earl Weaver decided he ain't taking s--t from anyone! He showed everyone who's boss and Clemens learned the hard way.
I hear ya. When I heard Stewart talk I thought, wtf? The guy is a best with a look that could kill you but then he talks and you have to giggle a little.
I always remember the name of Rocky Roe because when I was a kid I genuinely thought his name was Rocky Road and that the ice cream was named after him.
The umpire was one of the reasons why I fell in love with the baseball as a kid.. it was something about how imposing the figure was behind the plate especially on the strike three call i still appreciate good animated umpire to this day
Saw the Bosox play the A's in August of that season at Oakland. Clemens pitched a complete game shutout winning 2-0. My takeaways from that game was that the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum was a dump even then and that there was and is a huge amount of foul territory especially between home plate and the dugouts. Plus McGwire, Canseco and Rickey Henderson all had the night off for the A's.
Umpires believe that baseball is all about them and the game only a backdrop to their presence. His calls were irratic and unprofessional, and its infuriating that they have created some kind mafia organization that keeps the most flagrantly bad umpires in the game.
I remember this one, I was a big Clemens fan and I was on the school bus hoping to get home in time and I bust through the door and ask my dad whats happened and he said Clemens got ejected. I was so mad lol!
I was sitting in the bleachers and was also really mad. I paid to see a pitchers dual between Dave Stewart and Clemens and a butt hurt umpire ruined that.
This is my childhood right here. Not my favorite teams, but I knew who everyone was. Great time to be a fan. Big names everywhere.
there is some opening music that takes me back to when my life was somewhat stress free
Man you ain't kiddin
I thought the same thing as soon as this video started to play. Glad you said it!
I hear ya man. When a guy was full of piss and vinegar and a nice breeze would make the old trouser monster stand straight up lol. No internet tough guys back then either.Now we have agendas and people with a thorn up their ass thinking the world somehow owes them a favor. Simpler times indeed.
@@peteandrepete528 You sound like a guy that's not only strong and rugged in person, but quite virile as well. I hope you've found a way to tame that monster of yours. "It" must be an impressive sight. You really give off a groovy vibe.
Whenever you feel stressed, please say these words:
"Dear God, thank you for my eyes, thank you for my ears, thank you for my hands, thank you for my feet, thank you for my heart....you are so good to me!"
Gabe, focus on your blessings please, not your problems. I love you but God loves you way more.
Roger Clemens, Wade Boggs, Rickey Henderson, Jose Conseco, Mark McGuire, Dennis Eckersley, Tony Pena....man, it doesn’t get much better than that
Yes it does.
Neither team won the series.
Cincinnati won.
yeah it does how about the Indians
Alex Castro yes Sir.
You said it correctly.
'04 ALCS had some big names too...Jeter, Rivera, Pettite, A-Rod, Sheffield, Posada, Schilling, Pedro, Papi, Manny, Damon, Varitek
That's a lot of steroids.
Well on the bright side, at least this didn't involve umpire Angel Hernandez. lol
No doubt about it.
Id like to hear more about Mike Gaellego's glove... Great job CBS
Ben Richer hahahahahahahahah. Classic comment. Did you know he has a practice glove?
I didn't think idiotic comments like that by announcers went back as far as 1990. It's hard to believe Jim Gray actually got paid to deliver us absolutely useless nonsense like this.
Also, it takes the announcers almost two minutes to realize that Clemens had been ejected. So, they're not watching the action closely, and no one else in the back room saw it and told them in their ear what's going on. Everyone at home saw it, but the people making thousands of dollars to describe the action both do not see what's going on right in front of them.
I did NOT need to hear about Mike Gallego being a "leather freak."
CBS’ baseball production was a huge drop-off from NBC and even ABC. NBC’s Game of the Week was the best, esp. with Vin and Joe. Not exactly an original observation but NBC was so good at presenting baseball in the 80’s.
Wow the ball 4 to Randolph was right over the plate...no wonder hes pissed.
me too, it was a great location too.
did you see Rickey Henderson's stance? He had a tiny strike zone.
@@16rumpole yep that's why Rickey should easily be the all time walks leader and was for a while. But Barry Bonds stole it from him when he started being walked all the time after he used steroids.
I mean right over the plate.....Clemens must have said something really fucked up OR Terry Cooney is an asshole.
@@dukedematteo1995 the latter
Now let's get an expert opinion from Don Denkinger, who fucked up the 1985 World Series with his own shitty call.
right? i was 6 when that happened and i knew at the time how fucked it was!
And then worked the plate for Game 7.
cardinals fans are still bitching about Denkinger/ So funny. How did that 2015 NLDS ass kicking by the Cubs taste?
i think the other 19 N.L. Pennants more than make up for it. Besides, you Cub fans still blaming Bartman for the 2003 fiasco?
+bryanw91178 hsha. ya, and Ron Cey's clearly FOUL ball. Cubs fans among the top worst in MLB
When I was a kid my dad brought me to a pre-season game. After the game we stood out back to get autographs while the team got on their bus. All the dudes were nice, signing autographs, shaking hands, taking pictures. Clemens comes out and just starts yelling at all the kids "WATCH OUT, GET OUT MY WAY" and so on. Keep in mind we were behind barricades, so no one was really in his way. All of our dads just started talking shit to him back and he wanted to go after us kids and our dads. Fuck that dude.
Ok. When I was a kid Clemens came to see me in the hospital the day before I had heart surgery. He asked me if he could do anything and I asked him to come see me when it was over. Day after the surgery he showed up.
The next year at spring training in winter haven my dad brought me to a game and Roger was signing autographs. I waited and when it was my turn he immediately recognized me and remembered my name. He asked my dad where we were sitting and after about the 5th inning an usher cake and let us know that Mr Clemens invited us to one of the outer fields. He spent about 30 minutes with me playing catch and teaching me how to throw pitches.
I don’t doubt that he’s a hot head nor do I doubt your story. But he did so much more for me than I could ever expect. And I was far from the only one he did things like this for. We’re all flawed and at our worst moments but he taught me to give to people in need. I’ll always be thankful for that.
He's gotten a lil better. I think because he wants the Hall. I got a signed ball at a UT game.
Good for him.
Clemens when I met him was pure class giving fist pumps to everyone. Everyone has bad days I guess.
Never been a Clemens fan the rules were different for him compared to others. Mike Piazza should have charged the mound. None of the Yankees wanted to defend him throwing a piece of the broken bat at Piazza his excuse of saying "I thought it was the ball." Hello you throw a ball to first base not a runner.
Haha. The second pitch was closer to the strike zone than the first and was called a ball.
I agree that throwing out a starting pitcher in a game like this is ridiculous. However, Clemens has to have some degree of self control knowing what is on the line
Let's just be glad Clemens didn't throw a bat at an umpire, or something like that. Early in his career or late in his career, Clemens was always a showboating hothead with an ego of eggshells.
ah, 30 years ago. Things were FAR simpler in life.
phil, very true
no cell phones
Who'd have thought we'd be saying that the 90's were "the good old days"?
Yea but today I can shop anything from my bed. That's easy...
And now Covid19. You're damn right
This was the first year I fell in love with baseball, I was 11. Thankfully I only had to go through 13 years of heartache before the curse was broken, but I remember this sting all too well.
Ol boy
And you had to wait for commercial to see what the score was if you turned the game on after it started
lol true
That must have sucked for people who had to leave the house, and couldn't even turn on the game to see the score..
I hated that. You’d come in to watch the middle of the game and you know nothing. Love the intro music.
Thanks for the upload, I forgot all about this. I remember watching this when I was 8 with my Dad.
CBS interviewed Clemens when he got to the clubhouse and he said he was going to ice his arm down and be ready to start tomorrow if the Sox won (they were down 3-0). I remember hoping they would win to see what happened in Game 5, but it didn't happen.
Day Baseball for the playoffs How I miss them
There are plenty of day games in the postseason.
There are no day games in the LCS anymore. Such a shame.
You’re not the only one.
@@johndfw8680 Yes there are. Whenever there are two LCS games on the same day, one is a day game. I suppose it could be a late start like 5:00 if it's on the east coast, but there were day games @ Dodger Stadium last year. Just the World Series is always in prime time, as it should be.
I think during the CBS era, the day games started @ 3 ET, which would have been noon in Oakland.
If this game occurred at Fenway Park, there's a good chance fans would be throwing trash on the field.
No, the fans would have been ON the field.
The only time the fans go on the field at Fenway Park is after we won a World Series haven't you been paying attention lately when we won all those World Series and you didn't.
well no mistaking you are Irish as hell...wear that proudly
If it was Yank-Me stadium and this happened to the Yank-Me’s...the fans would have been shooting at the umpires.
Cooney wouldn’t have thrown Roger out at fenway
I was 15 years old and man o man what a time to be alive!!
The amount of steroids on that field is insane.
Even the umps look juiced ;)
I personally dont care, it made better baseball and if guys want to take the chance on harming their bodies to gain, hey go for it. Obviously I understand the reasons for not allowing it, but its just my personal opinion.
1990? Nah. It was just basically Canseco and maybe McGwire back then. It didn't become more wide spread until after the strike.
So frustrating, all the MLB needed to do back then aside from the obvious of instituting random PED testing for everyone .....was at least looking into guys like Canseco that were obvious. Hell Boston fans were chanting "Steroids" at him, then he flexed to the crowd 🤣( Alpha move by the way) MLB shoulda looked into it and demanded a steroid test or something. They do that and the message would be clear....blatant steroid use won't be tolerated, and would fuck up your reputation and money. Instead they did nothing, and in effect there was no rule against steroids since no one was tested, investigated or even mildly rebuked out of the public eye. No one said or did anything; not the MLB, not the PA, not the fans, and not the media. PEDs were de facto greenlighted.....thats why I don't really blame 90s guys for using or curse them for their lack of "integrity"....rule isn't really a rule if there's absolutely zero enforcement nor a stigma against breaking it.
The MLBPA didn't want random testing for recreational drugs bc everyone was doing blow and amphetamines back in the 80s and 90s
@@davidca96 I don't think any of the 90s users owe any1 an apology for anything. There was no testing, no oversight, no questions ever asked by the MLB. On top of that fans and media didn't care or said anything it's not really a rule if it's totally unenforced and unacknowledged by all parties involved
But remember Tony La Russa had no idea it was going on, you believe that you can be sold on anything.
"He's a leather freak, back to you Jim"
Thanks DICK🤣
1:10...Boston actually broke that record, losing 15 straight games from 1986-1999 (last two vs Mets 86 WS, all eight vs A's in 1988/90 ALCS, three vs Cleveland in 1995 ALDS and first two vs Cleveland in 1999 ALDS) before improbably coming back from down 0-2 to beat Cleveland in the 1999 ALDS.
Manu Ginobilis Bald Spot not exactly. In 1998 ALDS Boston won Game 1 vs Cleveland, losing the series 3 games to 1. Total losing streak was only(!) 13 games, then another 5 game losing streak before game 3 the following year.
@@virolo1960 Great call. I totally spaced on the 98 team.
@@virolo1960True!!!
The first game I ever went to was in Oakland with a Stewart/Clemens matchup. A’s won 1-0. Stewart threw 134 pitches in a CG SO. Absolute perfection. August 30, 1988.
Clemens was clearly in the wrong, but I do agree that umps these days do tend to have quick triggers when it comes to ejections these days as compared to the past.
Yes it's become a major issue with Umpires that have over-inflated egos and think they can do whatever they want including tossing players if they disagree with a call. I have to side with the announcer here, he should issue a warning then if he continues eject him. Simular to what the do what a batter is hit by a pitch unless it is obvious that was what the pitcher was going for was to hit the batter.
This is the past. Lol.
This game was 31 years ago
What I meant to say was that quick triggers like this one wasn’t as common as they are today.
Sometimes umpires miss calls. And these misses can and do affect the outcome of very crucial games. The calls on Randolph in this video most certainly did look like strikes. And the umpire should have at least given a warning. The ump should have handled it better.
I always thought Clemens got himself tossed on purpose. He was on his way to getting dusted and with his huge ego he didn't want to get blown out in an elimination game.
That is what I read in Jeff Peralman's book about Clemens
I watched this happen live. He was the best pitcher in BB & I was pissed I wouldn't see him pitch.
Everybody missed it when Clemens got tossed - the CBS cameras, announcers, even the Oakland fans didn't react immediately. You'd think that a cataclysmic event like Roger Clemens being ejected from a postseason game in the 2nd inning would have been a major meltdown type deal, but nobody realized it at the time it happened.
it would've been fun had he been pitching for the NYY at Yankees Stadium in a WS game.
Now THERE's anarchy waiting to happen.
Don Denkinger , The Umpire STL Cardinals fans including myself love to hate.
Interesting to have him as commentator. Had I been him after 1985, I would have gone into exile
Roger Clemens is in Steinbrenner’s booth!!!!
GOODNESS GRACIOUS
I laugh hysterically everytime I think about that moment.
Burnin Embers Official Somehow he reminds me of Nolan Ryan.
you wanna laugh
@@williamsanders2348 youtube to opie and anthony george Steinbrenner box
At least get it right. Fuckin idiot
RAWJAH
Umpires have to much leeway to do what they want that needs to be taken away
Those A's teams during that stretch in the late 80's to early 90's were so good..
Roids
Take away the roids.... And let's talk,,,
If they were more focused, the A’s could have gotten more than the title they won in 1989.
@@veledajohnson1511 everybody was on roids.
Stewart later said he thought Clemens realized he had nothing that day and was going to get beat, and intentionally got himself ejected so he'd have that as a fig leaf when his team lost. He added something like "Same old Roger Clemens, never coming through for his team when it counts the most." Not a lot of respect there. He did dominate head-to-head match-ups with Clemens over the years.
using Denkinger, the one known for the biggest blown call in the playoffs ever??
Jack Son
Exactly, that call by Denkinger flipped the entire series on its ear.
Jack Son he had to quit umpiring due to death threats so they were trying to rehabilitate his name in the media so that people would forget about the call. It didn’t work and all it did was bring more attention. It’s such a shame because if replay had been allowed in 1985 it never would have happened
The refusal of any ump in the 80's or 90's to call a strike above the belt was hilarious.
It ruined the game actually and led to the current average game time of over 3 hours.
They also thought the plate was 21” - 25” wide (it’s 17”).
@@mahasw777 especially if a guy named Greg Maddux or Tom Glavine pitched....
18"
Arguing? Looks like taunting to me.
Roger "mis-remembered" he's not in charge of strike zone. Dave Stewart beat his ass every-time they matched up.
Jose rio kicked Dave Stewart's ass everytime. Lol
That ball 4 to Randolph was right over the plate....like directly over.
See why he was pissed.
Not an excuse for using foul language, but the ball was right over the plate.
The pitch before that was called a strike but looked high and in, Randolph looked back at Cooney on that one like wtf then took “ball 4” which was indeed a strike. Roger wasn’t looking too good so maybe he did jack his jaws for an ejection. Well he sure got it!
I’ve always been a Red Sox fan, but in 1988 and 1990, the A’s just had a much better team. Indeed, the surprising aspect about that dominant A’s team is that they only won one World Series Championship in that period. The Dodgers beat them in ‘88, and the Reds in ‘90.
Mark Cianfarani The Gibson home run definitely was a huge factor. Very dramatic, coming off the bench, barely able to walk. But Dodgers pitcher Orel Hershiser (not sure on the spelling) was just about unhittable in that Series also.
The Reds were a lot better team than people realized.
@@johnfitzpatrick3094 Th '88 Dodgers were, but the '90 Reds weren't that much better. Cincy should have won at least 100 in the NL West that year. Then they beat the "perennially striking-out in playoff games" Pirates. The A's had more of a mental edge in '89, after the '88 loss. In 1990, they seemingly took a nap for a week after sweeping Boston, and acted like the WS was over as soon as they arrived. Well, it was...
@@brianoneill7186, I agree with the last part, but the Reds also had stiff competition from the Dodgers and Giants. They also had a lights out bullpen.
@Kevin Michael Agreed. It was the last two games, where the Dodger starting lineup had been depleted by injuries, that were surprising, particularly Game4, when sloppiness and a couple of errors killed the A's. The Reds in 1990 were fortunate get the sweep, before the loss of Hatcher and Davis could hurt them too much.
Let's go back to the studio to get the perspective of the umpire who blew the 1985 World Series for St. Louis, and who that entire team - led by Joaquin Andujar - tried to kill in Game 7. LMAO
Was it Dickingers fault Jack Clark dropped a pop up, was Dickingers fault Todd Worrell & Darrell Porter allowed wild pitch or passed ball, did Don Dickinger allow the game winning hit, did Don Dickinger get destroyed in Game 7 did Don Dickinger blow a 2 games to 0 lead or a 3 games to 1 lead???? No the Cardinals blew it & made Dickinger take the hit!!!!
Out of all of the pro sports in the U.S., the officiating is the worst in MLB.
11:22 best name ever for a baseball player 😌
the Clemens meltdown begins at 7:10 when an inside pitch to Willie Randolph is called a strike, and then is followed by a pitch in the same location that's called a ball...
@John Mongani You mean two perfect pitches right over the plate? He should've been pissed. Terrible umpiring.
@@e2go the first one was borderline and called a strike. The second one was clearly a strike and called a ball so yeah Clemens had a strong case for calling the ump out.
I miss when you had to win your division to make the playoffs. It truly meant something to be in the playoffs then, although I think the Sox only won 89 games that year.
Vince Smith-Back in the day before expansion, a team had to win its league pennant to get to the postseason (World Series).
90
I don't miss those days at all. I'm a Jays fan, after the mid 90s when the Yankees and Red Sox started buying up all star teams, I knew in April my team wasn't making playoffs no matter how good they looked on paper. Lots of years in there when the Jays could have won the central or west, but were doomed to miss the playoffs in the east.
An expanded playoff actually gives fans in most markets something to look forward to on any given year. It's far better for keeping an interest in the game.
Am I the only one getting a kick out of Marty Barrettt going berserk in the dug out rather than Morgan and Clemens' tirades?
If my ace got chucked I would be upset. If I were Barrett, I would have laid a beating on the coach that pulled him back into the dugout. If I were the owner, I would have fired the coach on the spot.
The A's were in the process of knocking him out of the game anyway!!!
His fastballs did look flat that day
Malcolm Baldwin he wasn’t trying he knew they were gonna lose the series. He probably got ejected on purpose
Yep. He F Bombed the umpire multiple times. No warnings get out.
Kinda hard when fastballs directly over the plate are called balls about 7 times.
Cooney was an asshole and Denkinger was an expert at blowing big calls himself.
Terry Cooney must have had a bad day leading up to this game. Throwing the rocket out for that was weak.
18:22 The voice from heaven
you were close. Roy Steele nickname was "the voice of God".
I think he died like a week ago.
I was sitting in bleachers in this game. That's the game we walked around the coliseum with our brooms! Sweep!!
Anthony Carr It was kind of you to then give your brooms to the Reds.
Ouch!
@@anthonycarr5514 Some of you Oakland dummies had mops, because they don't know the difference
José Hunter's EW&F Remixes Why the hate, Jose? If it’s remixes and such that you do, I would think a better attitude would probably help.
@@anthonycarr5514 Dude, it was a joke! Jeez, I'm not an angry person. But my biggest problem seems to be that I'm not as funny as I think I am.
Actually, my profession is mathematician, not "remixer"
I was there, still have the ticket stub, 20 dollars bleachers. It was crazy seeing Clemens rung up in that first inning.
Clemens was the best at what he done he’s forever my all time favorite player.
A strike zone that changes on every pitch, that will drive a pitcher crazy.
Clemens also threw a cracked bat at Mike Piazza 10 years later
He beamed Piazza in the head during the regular season
Met fans will never get over that lmao.
And they never should (Even though I'm not a Mets' fan.). Clemens is a POS.
mrpatt1983 shouldn’t they be more mad that they lost the World Series that year?
Jay Stevens Why? Mets lost the World Series, I’d be more pissed about that then pussy Piazza doing nothing about Clemens
The steroid boy and his tantrums...Clemens can't pull his bully act against these umpires...
@7:35 That's a strike, blue.
If you read his lips, the first thing he says is "I'm not fucking talking to you". He probably was talking to himself in anger and the ump thought he was talking to him initially, but telling the ref "I'm not fucking talking to you" probably wasn't the best way to explain himself
When a player is ejected and refuses to leave the dugout they should give one warning then start tossing the manager and on down until the player has left. Game goes on even if 1 or 2 are the only ones left on the team.
John Stilwell I might agree, except for the fact that the only way to get to the clubhouse was a path that took one near to the crowd. But I think even the umpires realized they had gone too far. They let Joe Morgan get away with a lot, and they did nothing about all the stuff tossed onto the field. And the American League would never allow an ALCS game be decided on a forfeit, which is what your solution would have amounted to.
No matter what Denkinger said, the fact is that ejections in the postseason are rare. When Earl Weaver (who else?) was ejected in a World Series game (late sixties or early seventies), it was the first ejection of a manager in a World Series since 1935!
Again, not defending Roger, but the smarter reaction from the umpire (who had blown one of those two calls) would have been to go out, dust off the plate, and tell the catcher to get out to the mound, and tell Clemens that if he so much as glared at the ump, he would immediately be tossed. That would be his only warning.
You might still have to eject him, but for the moment, it might have de-escalated the situation. Certainly the catcher would do everything he could to keep his starter in the game, and the fact is that fans want to see the best players (on both teams) playing in the biggest games.
John Stilwell Manager was already tossed
Or file a report after the game and get him penalized instead of wasting time on something that's irrelevant.
Plate Umpire Terry Cooney passed away at the age of 88. RIP Terry (1933-2022).
This is hilarious. Clemens is tossed at 8:11 and no one seems to get it, not the fans or the announcers.
Clemens was built like a tank. No wonder hitters never charged the mound on him.
11:13 Cooney had an inconsistent strike zone but it didn't favor either team. BOTH were getting good and bad calls.
I'm not lying but I really did watch this game LIVE when it happened and definitely remember this incident.
CrociatoAzzurro Saw it live on television. I don't think anyone could forget something this surreal. This moment goes right alongside Tyson biting Holyfield in the annals of, "Huh?"
No ads behind home plate. :)
I remember when Bull Durham came out and they had ads all over the field. It was hilarious in the movie cause it was so off the wall. Now its reality
@@shannonhondo260 I stopped watching modern baseball because of the ads.
@@taekwondotime sports is all about the money nowadays and it sux. I havent watched football or basketball in 10 years, sucky products
@@shannonhondo260 Yeah it's definitely not what it used to be. The athletes might be better, but the sport has diminished and the emphasis on the game has diminished.
I remember watching this game on TV when I was 13 years old. Clemens shoulda been warned before being thrown out.
Don Denkinger as an expert umpire...unbelieveable!
Alex Sweet they were trying to rehabilitate his name in the media because he was getting death threats and had to quit umpiring. It didn’t work. Shows you how replay could have changed that guy’s life if they had allowed it back then
@@TheLocalLt doing his fucking job could've changed it too
So because he made a mistake in a game, he's not an expert?
I was taken from my home by my mom and forced to go school shopping that afternoon. I kept walking by the tvs and couldn't understand why clemens was getting thrown out, the volumes were all down. I miss those days.
When baseball was great.
@todd long hardly
Man, back in these days you had to wait til end of inning to see the score. You would cut game on and have no idea of the score. Also our 22” tv’s were filled completely up with just the game. Now my 65” tv is taken up by a bottom line, score, launch angle, WAR etc., and the screen is about 22” of game. Haha.
Roger Clemens & Tony La Russa are a lot alike. When they or their team did something wrong it's always someone elses fault.
That is Tony diverting attention off his team. The guy is the greatest manager of the steroid era.
Joe Torre was like that as well.
@@jimmyjam209 1990 is not the "steroid era".
Steroid era is kind of a myth in the sense that steroids wasn't the reason the league hit alot of HRS....they juiced the ball in 93/94 and HRS stayed around the same rate for 20 yrs after. Baseball in 1991 and 1992 was a different game.
@jimmyjam209 yeah he also said he had no idea his guys were juicing you believe that you can be sold on anything in the world.
The trigger was definitely quick, especially for a playoff game, but Roger still earned it. I don't have any sympathy for him.
Not a roger fan but that pitch was a strike
Yes but Clemens was very stupid use your head getting ejected in a elimination playoff game you can't do that.
Nope. Gave em a strike. Threw the same exact pitch. Called it a ball. No consistancy for the hitter and the pitcher. Drives players nuts.
@@patrickgray5633 Umpire should’ve walked out and said “enough, any more and your ejected” but like most umpires they think they are the reason people show up to game.
Just ask Joe West
Interesting how there are 3 former or future Red Sox players in Oakland's starting lineup: (1) Carney Lansford, (2) Ricky Henderson, and (3) Dave Henderson (yes, the same guy who hit those dramatic home runs in the playoffs against the Angels, and World Series against the Mets in 1986).
And Oakland closer Dennis Eckersley was a former Red Sox starter
The thing about Clemens that people need to understand is what a diva he was. Seriously, he complained he had to carry his own luggage at the airport, he said Fenway was a "subpar" facility, and not only that, but he had clauses put into later contracts that said he did not have to travel with the team if he wasn't scheduled to pitch. It's a shame, because Clemens should have had a no-nonsense manager like Jim Leyland who wouldn't have put up with his shit.
KOHF34 Fenway is a dump
that's not a team member
Clemons was an arrogant asshole.
@@albundy6008 Not was....IS
No warnings are necessary, to argue balls and strikes ends in ejection. That it was a play-off game doesn't matter. Roger is not in the HOF for a reason. Shame on CBS for calling for a suspension of the rules.
Charles Keller bro it’s the heat of the moment, it’s the playoffs, and it was a strike anyway. People don’t pay thousands and fly across the country to see an umpire, they pay to see Roger Clemens. If Clemens decides to sandbag, that’s on him, but the ump at least has to give him the chance. I don’t even think what Clemens was doing was a formal argument, he was basically saying “fuck you” from the mound. The ump clearly has very thin skin because there was no need to even acknowledge this behavior
@19:28
RIP John Marzano
Very sharp! Glad you picked up he was there.
I was at Fenway when John homered over the Green Monster, which was most likely his last Major League home run.
KHayes666 1984. When Temple played at NCAA regional in my hometown, I was playing Konami Track and Field at the local arcade.
This big dude wearing Temple gear comes in with a couple of his teammates. Little did I know until the next day when he was behind the plate for the Owls that I went at it with John Marzano.
He put on a home run clinic but didn't have much of a supporting cast. Michigan (who won the regional) was loaded. Some guy by the name of Barry Larkin put on an even bigger clinic.
John Marzano was a cool dude. RIH.
Now if you look at an umpire the wrong way and you’re gone. Imagine players saying you can’t throw a man out for arguing balls and strikes in a playoff game. 1990- times have changed-2023
Clemens= Juicer
I was in left field bleachers that game. I remember it was the first time I ever saw a pitcher wearing eye black I think he was trying to look intimidating we were laughing yelling bye bye roger was a jerk back then and obviously still is.
All these years later, and the A's still play in that dump.
I remember bill king saying "stewart has always gotten into clemens head"
This was before Mark McGwire admitted to taking steroids and Roger Clemens got busted for the same thing these two players along with Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa will not get inducted into the Hall of Fame along with Pete Rose
He's big here. Bigger than the other players by far.
Obviously,there was a lot of frustration going on with the Red Sox being down 3-0 and it probably has gotten to Clemens and the Sox at that time. Thankfully,2004 erased all the frustration.
Sadly that would be another 14 year wait.
The only thing CBS was worried about was their ratings
Their strategy in 1990 was to show fewer playoff games in prime time, and pre-empt afternoon soap operas to promote their then-third place prime time shows. The ratings were bad all day!
@@brianoneill7186 I don't think it had to with ratings. MLB used to always have both league championship series going on the same day. In fact, one series would actually be two games in before the other series would even start, so this was not uncommon.
@@OliveOyl12590 Yes, but the 1990 League Championship Series had more day games scheduled than there had been in previous years, and TV deals. CBS set that schedule.
@@brianoneill7186 CBS also had the NFL, too. When NBC had both MLB and NFL, sometimes they'd have regional coverage weekends giving FOX or CBS, depending on who had the NFC coverage, the Sunday doubleheader for that weekend.
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During those weekends when NBC had MLB Championship games, ABC would probably have a west coast matchup on Monday Night Football and you'd see some of the AFC West teams hosting NFC teams on that Sunday to relieve NBC of having to worry about any late games during that time.
Clemens was getting hit hard by every batter. He couldn't handle it and rather than battle through it. As a total coward, he basically begged to be tossed. Same reason he was a roid boy. Couldn't handle the grind of trying to overcome a tough team or the problems of aging. Always took the easy way out.
During one of the games in this series the Fenway crowd serenaded Canseco with chants of “Steroids, steroids.”
and then Jose and The A's swept the Red Sox.
@@tomgoode3658 lol I'm not a Sox fan. Orange and Black all the way!;-)
@@mikesmith-pj7xz I'm a Red Sox Lifer since 1975. Sox looked like SD Jones VS King Kong Bundy both times they were swept by The A's.
@@tomgoode3658 I feel your pain. Those A's were a beast. My Giants got whooped by the A's:-(
Meanwhile Roger was jacked.
The way this story is talked about now.....its completely blamed on Clemens, but in real time everyone seemed to think the ump was way out of line for ejecting an ace during a playoff game.
that's true because at the time Clemens was a very respected pitcher who had struck out 20 Mariners in a game and had won multiple Cy Young awards. Jump ahead 10 years later and he was a cheating steroid goon.
@@johnmongani5223 thats true....the writers really seem to be into this retroactive moral preening about steroids during a time no one gave a shit(including the writers) about steroids.....Its like being really really upset now in 2020 that a white guy in 1890s Georgia was racist.
At least 62% of the writers(ones that vote for him) seem to have functional brains....the rest are just old crotchety holier than thou types that somehow think Harold Baines should be a HOFer, but the HR King and the guy with the best pitching career of the last century shouldn't....theres a reason those cowards want their votes kept private.
@@johnmongani5223 I just hate retroactive moralizing like this. 1990 Clemens doesn't magically become wrong (or deserving of ejection in postseason) bc his reputation has sucked for the last 13 years.
Im not saying you're doing that, but its something people do that just drives me nuts.
@@dukedematteo1995 well put
Was Jim Gray ever young???? Looks like he's been 55 forever
Lmao I thought the same thing. When he was born, he was already fully vested with three networks.
Nah. He looks young, but his hairline is receding.
When men lose their hair, it usually happens in their 20s or 30s.
"Strike and ball zone." Never heard it called that before.
Typical Dick Stockton, who made every baseball game sound like Larry Bird was driving for a layup in crunch time.
anyone remember the refrigerator sized strike zone they used to give smoltz during playoff games?
Let's face it. Terry Cooney after getting hit years earlier by Earl Weaver decided he ain't taking s--t from anyone! He showed everyone who's boss and Clemens learned the hard way.
Looney Cooney....made Joe West look good. Awful.
I was listening to this game when Clemens got the boot.
Stewarts voice was so different that I was expecting first time I heard it... and Jim Gray is such a tool, never did like him..
I hear ya. When I heard Stewart talk I thought, wtf? The guy is a best with a look that could kill you but then he talks and you have to giggle a little.
He's a leather freak
Dont break the rules.....wont get thrown out.
None of us should ever know the name of any umpire. Period.
Lol, so true. The only ones I can name are the worst of the bunch. Angel Hernandez, Joe West, Bob Davidson, CB Bucknor, etc
Why??
I always remember the name of Rocky Roe because when I was a kid I genuinely thought his name was Rocky Road and that the ice cream was named after him.
The umpire was one of the reasons why I fell in love with the baseball as a kid.. it was something about how imposing the figure was behind the plate especially on the strike three call i still appreciate good animated umpire to this day
CBS televised MLB games from 1990 to 1993...they haven't televised any more since then!
CBS' MLB coverage was a joke. They were on one Saturday then you didn't find them again for a month or two.
At 14:38: Brain-dead announcer Dick Stockton mispronounces Denkinger's name just minutes after the correct pronunciation was made.
Autodidact2 plus everyone should have already known his name from his blown call in 1985
And 1975 wasn’t his first playoff assignment. 1972 ALCS was.
Saw the Bosox play the A's in August of that season at Oakland. Clemens pitched a complete game shutout winning 2-0. My takeaways from that game was that the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum was a dump even then and that there was and is a huge amount of foul territory especially between home plate and the dugouts. Plus McGwire, Canseco and Rickey Henderson all had the night off for the A's.
The Coliseum was regarded as one of the better ballparks then. It went to shit when the Raiders came back.
Boston was overmatched from the start. I think Clemens just wanted to cut out early LoL
The most mysterious incident was at 9:40 when a red sox coach throws a player into the dugout.
Antonio Acevedo Marty Barrett was going to get thrown out also, the coach was trying to help the Red Sox.
Character Deficient Clemens
Umpires believe that baseball is all about them and the game only a backdrop to their presence. His calls were irratic and unprofessional, and its infuriating that they have created some kind mafia organization that keeps the most flagrantly bad umpires in the game.
The curse wouldn't have lasted 86 years if Clemens could have performed in the postseason. Just sayin'
Yea if I was born to rich parents I’d be wealthy, just saying
Oakland was already leading this series 3-0, and beat Clemens in Boston too! Wasn’t going to be in this series!
@@smacktalk4u right, but it wasn't just this season either.
The curse was only 85 years. 1919-2003 is 85 years nothing won. They won in the 86th year.
He would've won game 6 in 86 if he didn't get yanked.
I remember this one, I was a big Clemens fan and I was on the school bus hoping to get home in time and I bust through the door and ask my dad whats happened and he said Clemens got ejected. I was so mad lol!
I was sitting in the bleachers and was also really mad. I paid to see a pitchers dual between Dave Stewart and Clemens and a butt hurt umpire ruined that.