Thanks Mr. Pete you are a bridge between a generations. Over the years you have taught me so much about tools that I had no idea as to what they were and their uses.
I love this series, even thouh im not a machinist, I've been watching your videos for years now and they helped me a lot as a contractor for a lighting specialist in a retail market. Few years ago I bought a lathe and a milling machine, knowledge how to operate them that I learned from you is priceless. Keep up the good work, greetings from Poland, Europe.
Well.... Next week I begin my 44th year as a shop teacher-- my last, I hope. I started in the early 80's and printing with foundry type was one of our first topics in Graphic Arts class.
Informative and enjoyable, Mr. Pete. There still are a few of us who care about the past. Seeing how things were done should make everyone appreciate the technology we have today. I will miss the series. Thank you.
Sorry to see this series go. I really enjoy seeing tools I have never used or knew about. Keep up the awesome work you do to bring us the great videos.
Always interested in these specialty or obscure tools and have always loved this series. How many times have we had to modify a tool or come up with some method of performing a task for which there is no tool commercially available?
I recently cast a brass chase for a local restorer's 3x5 letter press. His machine shop runs in a lineshaft and he's very close to having it all running on steam. But I had no idea that was what letter press furniture looks like! Always wondered about picas too. 😁 This series is always so interesting, thanks for making the videos. it'll be sad to see it end.
Lyle - I'm another guy who has really enjoyed this series - I often know what some of the items are but then there are always the ones I have never run across. I liked the pictures of the catalog insert. That also shows the 452 Cylinder Gage - I have one of those in the original wooden box with instructions. Have not torn into an engine since I got that at an auction (as part of a whole pile of items) so have not tried to use it and see how accurate it still is. If I end up with the head off the Model A at some point I'll have to try it out - pretty much what it was marketed for in that catalog. Have a good weekend.
Any taper in the cylinders will be at the top. I’ve seen cylinders so worn they had a ring ridge at the top. Removed of course with a “ridge reamer”. Engines in the early years were typically due for an overhaul at 30 to 40K miles. Oil and air filters were not very good back then and some engines were even run without air cleaners for more power. Lots of dirt and sludge but more work for hard working mechanics.
Well, I got none of them. Very cool to learn about the hinge marker and the cylinder taper gauge. Definitely now we still get some taper in our cylinder bores. The really good engine shops have machines (Rossler) that will hone everything fully automatically from indicating in to whatever bore size you tell it to do. Much nicer than standing over the machine and getting that gross honing oil splashed on you.
As others have said, I like this series very much also and will miss it when you do give it up! The taper guage was likely a failure for its intended use since wear in combustion engine cylinders is not truly a straight taper and that straight edge would bridge across worn areas, masking the wear pattern. I suspect that another manufacturer had produced a patented product that addressed measuring the low areas of the cylinder and Sterrett was attempting to gain a share of that market. I could be way off base on this but I don't see why they would have make this tool if they could have made a better product.
I have one of the Starrett 652 tools and the Starrett factory has two of them in the attic above the tool shop museum. Not many people, if any now, at the factory are aware of all the old and rare items stored in the museum and the tool storage room. My guess is the dial bore gage tools came out and quickly made this tool redundant. Thanks for showing this.
I enjoy the series too. I have a similar butt marker, and have used it probably only once. I should have known the siding tool, but I have only hung vinyl siding once as a helper. The Starrett cylinder taper gage was an interesting mystery solve. I own a lot if trade specific specialty tools that I likely will never use or use again. Many were costly to manufacture and to purchase, but without the specific job demand, they are pretty useless. I have purchased a few of these new, but the job demand never materialized. My boys can ponder them when they disperse my hoard. I prefer premium tools, so some of my unused or barely used hoard represents serious spendage. I find great pleasure when I apply a tool that I may have purchased decades ago. Mt wife's world has centered around her kitchen. She has a similar food processing, preparing and presentation hoard. She, like me with tools, values our wheelhouse productivity and quality output. But she also delights in outfitting her daughters and granddaughters with their kitchens. We both spend freely, she outfitting kitchens and I outfit shops. 37th grandchild was added 2 weeks ago. I am already shopping for his tools.
37 grandchildren??? It’s guaranteed that some of them are called HEY YOU. It would be a challenge to remember their names and get them correct. Congratulations.
Love that taper gauge! A fella could even see where the taper was most pronounced in the cylinder. With a bore gauge, we can't. Maybe im wrong and it really doesn't matter. Neat vid!
Just for fun.. the type chase sat on a 4 wheel "cart" that was called a turtle so it could be wheeled around the composing room. The guy who did all the grunt work was the printer's devil. Sort of an apprentice. They also used nifty pieces of lead to space out the lines of type... which is where the term "leading" came from. They were 12 picas tall.
Very interesting. Do you remember that the height of the cart was exactly the height of the stone that way you can slide the type off the stone onto the cart, etc.
Sorry you're dropping this. This feature is a nerd's(me) paradise, probably the only way some of these things will ever be identified. I illustrate this by only knowing what the bout gauge is. Didn't Stanley also make these as a set of three, complete was rods or flats, enabling the carpenter to mark a a bunch of doors identically?
Very fascinating tools! I would never have guessed the #4 tool, in spite of my being an engine guy. I really appreciate your videos like this which are pre entertainment. It is great to hear you share your interests and talk about these old tools. It may be hard for you to understand why or maybe not - but listening to you talk about these things is something which brings me lots of nostalgia and calmness.
Back when that Starrett gauge was manufactured, many companies would age their blocks prior to machining them. My machine shop boss/owner said aging meant they would leave the block outdoors to rust up prior to machining the casting so I do not know what the process actually was other his explanation. Is it true? Did Ford do this? Doubtful. The cast iron may not have what is used today but I think saying the cast iron was soft may not be true. We used to have a reel lawn mower with a vert low horsepower vertical cylinder Briggs engine. I rebuilt it in the machine shop where I worked at the time. Using a Sunnen Hone powered by an electric drill just to hone a cross hatch for new rings proved futile. No matter how much I tightened the stones into the cylinder wall and no matter how long I worked the hone back and forth, I could make no cross hatch and gave up, just assembled the engine with a shiny bore. I have never seen cast iron that hard and I am guessing this must have been made in the 40's or earlier as no one in my family could remember. My grandfather died before I was born and it was his. My rebuild took place in the mid 60's.
I told you what made me say that. The bed on our south Bend.Lathe seems to be very soft. Years ago, many companies seasoned their castings for about a year to stabilize the metal.
@@mrpete222 Believe me, I was not trying to bash you, not my style. I try to learn and not be the educator. It was an experience I had and to this day cannot believe I could not hone that cylinder. The drill we used was one of those older Black and Decker with the pipe handle that could really hurt you if not holding proper or twist a small engine block out of a vise. I wanted to relay what happened but also questioned why you said soft and explaining the seasoning helped me understand and I do thank you. Sometimes I reply too quickly and don't proof read enough.
"So when using that Stanley Hinge marker, it would work better if I moved my thumb so I didn't hit it with the hammer. Thanks, Mr. Pete" - Your Friend Bubba
Wow. Now that you reviled #1 it brings back memories of my high school and jr high print class. As for the hinge template I have severe in different sizes. Great job. Thank you 😊
I am from the age of using printing rulers for impact printers (i.e. IBM 360 vintage) for measuring and adjusting printout layouts. Fascinating "furniture" for the older letterpress/offset printing business of old, never saw anything like it until now. Keep them coming! I have toyed with the idea of sending you a tool or two but will hold off until you ask for more!
When I was 13, I got a job in an old country grocery store. My job was to set block type in a small printing press and make the 6”x8” signs for the produce. Like “Apples, 5 # for $1, and such. I had to set the type, backwards, ink it up, then lay the card stock on top and roll it. Fun job! When I hit 16, they made me the produce guy.
Number 3 is called a snap lock punch. It punches a tab of vinyl out the front of vinyl siding to lock it into a piece of under sill trim or double finish trim.
Hi Mr Pete (#4) if you think about it this would only be good if you were boring a new hole to check for a taper if the machine shop got a block that had a ridge in it this tool would not work or give an accurate reading because of the step in the bore . Thanks again Mr Pete . JM
On #4, I could read the starrett number in the video. A google search came up with the tool and what it was called but no instructions on how it was used. I think it was on EBay.
I was wondering if you can cut metric threads on an atlas 10d lathe that does not have the stud gear. I have the atlas manual but the diagrams don't seem to match up. Thank you
I always learn something with your videos, sometimes things I will never need to know. But "furniture, pica, and coins" will stick with me and may just come out in a conversation at some point. Perhaps when my son's (twin boys of 52 years of knowledge) begin to berate the imperial number system in favor of the metric system. I am sure adding picas to the conversation will end in a pouting disappointment to them, grin....
I never really liked the name 'parallels' because that word doesn't accurately describe their purpose. I would like to petition the High Priests of the maching world to change word to 'risers' because that's what they actually do. Just my two cents.
One of my favorite series. It'll be a sad day when you discontinue it. Thank you Mr Pete.
How much you want to bet he shuts it down at the 100th episode?
Thanks Mr. Pete you are a bridge between a generations. Over the years you have taught me so much about tools that I had no idea as to what they were and their uses.
Thanks
Hope you continue the series.
Thanks MrPete.
I love this series, even thouh im not a machinist, I've been watching your videos for years now and they helped me a lot as a contractor for a lighting specialist in a retail market. Few years ago I bought a lathe and a milling machine, knowledge how to operate them that I learned from you is priceless. Keep up the good work, greetings from Poland, Europe.
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Well.... Next week I begin my 44th year as a shop teacher-- my last, I hope. I started in the early 80's and printing with foundry type was one of our first topics in Graphic Arts class.
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This is a great series! I have not seen a single issue of "What is it" where I haven't learned something new. Thank you so much!
Great to hear!
Informative and enjoyable, Mr. Pete. There still are a few of us who care about the past. Seeing how things were done should make everyone appreciate the technology we have today. I will miss the series. Thank you.
Yes
Sorry to see this series go. I really enjoy seeing tools I have never used or knew about. Keep up the awesome work you do to bring us the great videos.
Funny how Starrett even had a hard time knowing what it was.
School is IN session.. Love these “what is it” videos... always learn a tool history lesson. 👍
Morning Lyle
2:20 Very interesting.
I took printing in 8th grade and set type but never used anything like this.
I believe that the SL in SL5 stands for "seam lock".
Thanks Mr Pete.
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Aw...it's too bad you want to discontinue it. However, I do understand and thank you for uploading.
Oh Mr Pete that's unfortunate I love it when I don't know what the tool is anyhow thank you for the knowledge you have given me
Always interested in these specialty or obscure tools and have always loved this series. How many times have we had to modify a tool or come up with some method of performing a task for which there is no tool commercially available?
I recently cast a brass chase for a local restorer's 3x5 letter press. His machine shop runs in a lineshaft and he's very close to having it all running on steam. But I had no idea that was what letter press furniture looks like! Always wondered about picas too. 😁 This series is always so interesting, thanks for making the videos. it'll be sad to see it end.
Thank you very much
Yep! And I really failed on these! I promise to do extra credit on future assignments. Thanks, Mr Pete!
You need to stay after school
Thanks Mr Pete number 4 was quite the contraption
lovely. I really like these items
Lyle - I'm another guy who has really enjoyed this series - I often know what some of the items are but then there are always the ones I have never run across. I liked the pictures of the catalog insert. That also shows the 452 Cylinder Gage - I have one of those in the original wooden box with instructions. Have not torn into an engine since I got that at an auction (as part of a whole pile of items) so have not tried to use it and see how accurate it still is. If I end up with the head off the Model A at some point I'll have to try it out - pretty much what it was marketed for in that catalog. Have a good weekend.
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Any taper in the cylinders will be at the top. I’ve seen cylinders so worn they had a ring ridge at the top. Removed of course with a “ridge reamer”. Engines in the early years were typically due for an overhaul at 30 to 40K miles. Oil and air filters were not very good back then and some engines were even run without air cleaners for more power.
Lots of dirt and sludge but more work for hard working mechanics.
Letterpresses are still used for foil stamping like on a book or Bible cover and die cutting.
We used to use a little heated machine that applied the gold leaf lettering to the cover of a Bible.
We also used a platen press for perforating paper
Well, I got none of them.
Very cool to learn about the hinge marker and the cylinder taper gauge.
Definitely now we still get some taper in our cylinder bores. The really good engine shops have machines (Rossler) that will hone everything fully automatically from indicating in to whatever bore size you tell it to do. Much nicer than standing over the machine and getting that gross honing oil splashed on you.
As others have said, I like this series very much also and will miss it when you do give it up! The taper guage was likely a failure for its intended use since wear in combustion engine cylinders is not truly a straight taper and that straight edge would bridge across worn areas, masking the wear pattern. I suspect that another manufacturer had produced a patented product that addressed measuring the low areas of the cylinder and Sterrett was attempting to gain a share of that market. I could be way off base on this but I don't see why they would have make this tool if they could have made a better product.
Thanks Mr Pete
Thank for the video Mr. Pete all way fun to watch these video. And like all good thing they must come to and end. But it was good while it lasted.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for sharing
I have one of the Starrett 652 tools and the Starrett factory has two of them in the attic above the tool shop museum. Not many people, if any now, at the factory are aware of all the old and rare items stored in the museum and the tool storage room. My guess is the dial bore gage tools came out and quickly made this tool redundant. Thanks for showing this.
Thank you, that was interesting.
And I might add this, never underestimate how little some younger people know.
Good morning from the capital city of Missouri
Great video Mr pete !! Remember printing class in high school still have some writing pads i made picas good memories !!!!
always enjoy your 'what is it' best wishes from Orlando, Paul
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What an interesting batch of tools. That was awesome!
I do enjoy this series!!
You got me on ALL of these!
I am 81 years old and have learned so much from this series. Sorry to see it end.
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Good morning Lyle.
I enjoy the series too. I have a similar butt marker, and have used it probably only once.
I should have known the siding tool, but I have only hung vinyl siding once as a helper.
The Starrett cylinder taper gage was an interesting mystery solve. I own a lot if trade specific specialty tools that I likely will never use or use again. Many were costly to manufacture and to purchase, but without the specific job demand, they are pretty useless. I have purchased a few of these new, but the job demand never materialized. My boys can ponder them when they disperse my hoard. I prefer premium tools, so some of my unused or barely used hoard represents serious spendage. I find great pleasure when I apply a tool that I may have purchased decades ago.
Mt wife's world has centered around her kitchen. She has a similar food processing, preparing and presentation hoard. She, like me with tools, values our wheelhouse productivity and quality output. But she also delights in outfitting her daughters and granddaughters with their kitchens. We both spend freely, she outfitting kitchens and I outfit shops. 37th grandchild was added 2 weeks ago. I am already shopping for his tools.
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37 grandchildren???
It’s guaranteed that some of them are called HEY YOU. It would be a challenge to remember their names and get them correct.
Congratulations.
As a platen press operator, using a composing stick in front of a variety of California Job case.
In college, I had memorized the California job case
Love that taper gauge! A fella could even see where the taper was most pronounced in the cylinder. With a bore gauge, we can't. Maybe im wrong and it really doesn't matter.
Neat vid!
Good job Mr Pete.
Thanks for the education Mr. Pete. The typeset instruction was very interesting.
You are a Great Teacher , Mr. Pete ! !
Thanks! 😃
I'll miss these. 🙁
Just for fun.. the type chase sat on a 4 wheel "cart" that was called a turtle so it could be wheeled around the composing room. The guy who did all the grunt work was the printer's devil. Sort of an apprentice. They also used nifty pieces of lead to space out the lines of type... which is where the term "leading" came from. They were 12 picas tall.
Very interesting. Do you remember that the height of the cart was exactly the height of the stone
that way you can slide the type off the stone onto the cart, etc.
Sorry you're dropping this. This feature is a nerd's(me) paradise, probably the only way some of these things will ever be identified. I illustrate this by only knowing what the bout gauge is.
Didn't Stanley also make these as a set of three, complete was rods or flats, enabling the carpenter to mark a a bunch of doors identically?
I believe what you are describing was a three hinge fixture for routing
Thanks for doing this series, we will miss it.
Lyle,keep the next times comming🤗😎🤗😎
There were Pica and ELITE typewriters back in my day.(:...aka mid 70's typing class.
.. I like learning about how printing was done.
Another great what is it . Print information very interesting 👍
Good morning
Interesting that on the photo of your door hinge one side on the hinge is rounded and one side has square corners!
Yes, very interesting. And I did not notice that until I edited the video.
Very fascinating tools! I would never have guessed the #4 tool, in spite of my being an engine guy.
I really appreciate your videos like this which are pre entertainment. It is great to hear you share your interests and talk about these old tools. It may be hard for you to understand why or maybe not - but listening to you talk about these things is something which brings me lots of nostalgia and calmness.
Really, I thought my voice agitated people
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That's not true at all. The things that you say and how you explain stuff is more important than the actual audio quality of your voice.
Back when that Starrett gauge was manufactured, many companies would age their blocks prior to machining them. My machine shop boss/owner said aging meant they would leave the block outdoors to rust up prior to machining the casting so I do not know what the process actually was other his explanation. Is it true? Did Ford do this? Doubtful. The cast iron may not have what is used today but I think saying the cast iron was soft may not be true. We used to have a reel lawn mower with a vert low horsepower vertical cylinder Briggs engine. I rebuilt it in the machine shop where I worked at the time. Using a Sunnen Hone powered by an electric drill just to hone a cross hatch for new rings proved futile. No matter how much I tightened the stones into the cylinder wall and no matter how long I worked the hone back and forth, I could make no cross hatch and gave up, just assembled the engine with a shiny bore. I have never seen cast iron that hard and I am guessing this must have been made in the 40's or earlier as no one in my family could remember. My grandfather died before I was born and it was his. My rebuild took place in the mid 60's.
I told you what made me say that. The bed on our south Bend.Lathe seems to be very soft.
Years ago, many companies seasoned their castings for about a year to stabilize the metal.
@@mrpete222 Believe me, I was not trying to bash you, not my style. I try to learn and not be the educator. It was an experience I had and to this day cannot believe I could not hone that cylinder. The drill we used was one of those older Black and Decker with the pipe handle that could really hurt you if not holding proper or twist a small engine block out of a vise. I wanted to relay what happened but also questioned why you said soft and explaining the seasoning helped me understand and I do thank you. Sometimes I reply too quickly and don't proof read enough.
Very interesting mystery tools. Excellent video Mrpete 👍👍👍👍
"So when using that Stanley Hinge marker, it would work better if I moved my thumb so I didn't hit it with the hammer. Thanks, Mr. Pete" - Your Friend Bubba
Lol
I like your tool series. What is it?
Always learning something from Mr.Pete !
Wow. Now that you reviled #1 it brings back memories of my high school and jr high print class. As for the hinge template I have severe in different sizes. Great job. Thank you 😊
great video
Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
I am from the age of using printing rulers for impact printers (i.e. IBM 360 vintage) for measuring and adjusting printout layouts. Fascinating "furniture" for the older letterpress/offset printing business of old, never saw anything like it until now. Keep them coming! I have toyed with the idea of sending you a tool or two but will hold off until you ask for more!
👍👍
When I was 13, I got a job in an old country grocery store. My job was to set block type in a small printing press and make the 6”x8” signs for the produce. Like “Apples, 5 # for $1, and such. I had to set the type, backwards, ink it up, then lay the card stock on top and roll it. Fun job! When I hit 16, they made me the produce guy.
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Very interesting, I had no idea about picas, thanks very much.
Thank you. I have several of the Butt markers, never knew how to use them.. Now i do..
Number 3 is called a snap lock punch. It punches a tab of vinyl out the front of vinyl siding to lock it into a piece of under sill trim or double finish trim.
I am late for class, will need some extra credit 😊
No worries!
I loved every one. Thanks!
Hi Mr Pete (#4) if you think about it this would only be good if you were boring a new hole to check for a taper if the machine shop got a block that had a ridge in it this tool would not work or give an accurate reading because of the step in the bore . Thanks again Mr Pete . JM
i,m gonna miss this series when you quit mrpete !
cheers
ben
Thanks, but you can see why looking at the analytics, however, there is virtually no interest in this series. People like to watch MrBeast.
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On #4, I could read the starrett number in the video. A google search came up with the tool and what it was called but no instructions on how it was used. I think it was on EBay.
I was wondering if you can cut metric threads on an atlas 10d lathe that does not have the stud gear. I have the atlas manual but the diagrams don't seem to match up. Thank you
Never thought of it
I’m subscribed and have the bell on but they don’t come up in my notifications, I’m not surprised not many watch these. You tube is out to get you!!!
Yes, I think they already got me
@@mrpete222 don’t let them get you down, we got you.
I almost never get the pa videos. I checked my subscription and notifications and all seems good. I don’t know why I don’t get part A
Starrett sure made a dud with that one. I sure wish this series wasn’t ending, it’s still my favorite
As others have said, there hasn't been an episode yet where I knew what all the items were.
Hi Mr pt I am from trinidad I have a problem with a band saw I need you help your wisdom
I always learn something with your videos, sometimes things I will never need to know. But "furniture, pica, and coins" will stick with me and may just come out in a conversation at some point. Perhaps when my son's (twin boys of 52 years of knowledge) begin to berate the imperial number system in favor of the metric system. I am sure adding picas to the conversation will end in a pouting disappointment to them, grin....
Lol
I never really liked the name 'parallels' because that word doesn't accurately describe their purpose. I would like to petition the High Priests of the maching world to change word to 'risers' because that's what they actually do. Just my two cents.
Good point
I'm watching.😊😂
If you personally enjoy making these videos, then it is worth it, to you. And that’s all that matters. 👍🏻
I appreciate that!
But, it’s a bit of a chore because I do lots of research and spend a lot of time off camera, even if it does not show
Lyle, I cheated on number 4, I googled 'unusual Starrett tools' and this popped up......I hope I do not get detention or extra homework......
Two detentions
What is vinyl siding? Not something I have ever come into contact with. Concrete block, wood, brick, stucco, and Hardie plank only.
Please don't bow out, we enjoy What is it
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I do enjoy these but often don't get around to watching them for a while. I am sorry you are going to quit.
Just a few words to help boost your rating.
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OK , so not many people watched this and it's up to 7.2K views