Very helpful comparison, Eric (not to mention beautifully played); I only wish you'd compared the Tumultus red brass large bell with the others. With the Tumultus I hear only core; with the Lotus and the Thane I can hear more color, which I take to be the warm overtones of the copper and bronze.
I believe the large, red brass bell would be very warm sounding. The medium, yellow brass bell should be a “bright” sounding Tumultus, but it’s still a dark sounding trumpet. I can only imagine how much more mellow the sound would get with a larger bell. The Thane was probably the brightest sounding of these three horns. The Lotus Universal wasn’t far behind though. I was a bit surprised at how different the Tumultus was when compared to these two, considering the Tumultus was a “bright” configuration.
@@ericmpena Thanks, Eric. To my ear, the Lotus sounds as if it is giving you a very slight edge in the upper register passages. Any notes on efficiency?
@@gregorysolman7404 I’ve found after about 5 months of testing that the MAW pistons help my endurance overall. Standard pistons feel like the horn has more horsepower, while MAW pistons feel like the horn has better efficiency. How does that apply to these horns? Well, the Lotus and Tumultus use MAW pistons…so both horns feel very efficient. The one downfall (IMO) of the Tumultus is that it’s too free blowing (reversed leadpipe). The Lotus feels more like a ML horn, thus making it feel even less tiring to play for long periods. For my Thane, I have a set of standard pistons as well as a set of MAW pistons. Typically I like the standard pistons due to the more powerful, open sound I get with them. However, the MAW pistons in the Thane work very well also. You have to adjust your playing efforts a bit, but after 30 minutes or so your body adapts to the quicker response of the MAW pistons and you start to play more efficiently. It’s a preference thing from my experience, just like cars. Do you like cars with powerful engines or fuel efficient engines? No choice is the right choice for everyone. It depends what YOU want as a player.
@@MultiTrumpetman I wanted to throw in some classical examples, but the Lotus and Tumultus sold so quickly that I didn’t have much time to record. I spent maybe an hour figuring out what to play, then getting clips from all 3 horns…then I had to speed to UPS and get the horns sent off to their new owner. (Yes, one person bought both the Lotus & Tumultus) Next time I’ll try to include some classical etudes as well. I’m not much of a jazz player, but maybe someday I can throw in a jazz example or two.
Very helpful comparison, Eric (not to mention beautifully played); I only wish you'd compared the Tumultus red brass large bell with the others. With the Tumultus I hear only core; with the Lotus and the Thane I can hear more color, which I take to be the warm overtones of the copper and bronze.
Should play different styles.
I believe the large, red brass bell would be very warm sounding.
The medium, yellow brass bell should be a “bright” sounding Tumultus, but it’s still a dark sounding trumpet. I can only imagine how much more mellow the sound would get with a larger bell.
The Thane was probably the brightest sounding of these three horns. The Lotus Universal wasn’t far behind though.
I was a bit surprised at how different the Tumultus was when compared to these two, considering the Tumultus was a “bright” configuration.
@@ericmpena Thanks, Eric. To my ear, the Lotus sounds as if it is giving you a very slight edge in the upper register passages. Any notes on efficiency?
@@gregorysolman7404 I’ve found after about 5 months of testing that the MAW pistons help my endurance overall.
Standard pistons feel like the horn has more horsepower, while MAW pistons feel like the horn has better efficiency.
How does that apply to these horns? Well, the Lotus and Tumultus use MAW pistons…so both horns feel very efficient. The one downfall (IMO) of the Tumultus is that it’s too free blowing (reversed leadpipe).
The Lotus feels more like a ML horn, thus making it feel even less tiring to play for long periods.
For my Thane, I have a set of standard pistons as well as a set of MAW pistons. Typically I like the standard pistons due to the more powerful, open sound I get with them. However, the MAW pistons in the Thane work very well also. You have to adjust your playing efforts a bit, but after 30 minutes or so your body adapts to the quicker response of the MAW pistons and you start to play more efficiently.
It’s a preference thing from my experience, just like cars. Do you like cars with powerful engines or fuel efficient engines? No choice is the right choice for everyone. It depends what YOU want as a player.
@@MultiTrumpetman I wanted to throw in some classical examples, but the Lotus and Tumultus sold so quickly that I didn’t have much time to record.
I spent maybe an hour figuring out what to play, then getting clips from all 3 horns…then I had to speed to UPS and get the horns sent off to their new owner. (Yes, one person bought both the Lotus & Tumultus)
Next time I’ll try to include some classical etudes as well. I’m not much of a jazz player, but maybe someday I can throw in a jazz example or two.