Choosing a Treatment for Intermediate Risk Prostate Cancer | Prostate Cancer Staging Guide
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- PCRI’s Executive Director, Mark Scholz, MD, compares different treatments for men with Teal stage (intermediate-risk) prostate cancer. He compares these treatments based on side effects, cure rates, and convenience.
0:35 There are three subtypes of teal (intermediate-risk) prostate cancer, Low Teal, Basic Teal, and High Teal. When we are talking about different choices for treatment, we are really only referring to Basic Teal, or “intermediate intermediate-risk” prostate cancer. Men with Low Teal can consider active surveillance, and men with High Teal generally require combination therapy.
1:23 Some of the options for Basic Teal include surgery, radiation therapy (IMRT, proton therapy, SBRT), temporary and permanent seed implants, even hormone therapy alone.
1:57 When you are comparing treatments, it is helpful to look at three factors. The first factor is cure rates. The second factor is convenience and discomfort, if cure rates are equal you can choose the treatment that is the least uncomfortable. The third factor is the incidence of long term side effects.
2:45 Cure rates. The best cure rates come from radioactive seed implants. Outcomes are the same between temporary seeds and permanent seeds. Other forms of radiation should still be considered because Basic Teal is easy to cure so there isn’t a large difference in cure rates between seeds and other forms of radiation. So one can consider another treatment if it is less uncomfortable or more convenient.
3:55 Convenience and discomfort. Radioactive seeds come out on top again, since the procedure can be completed in one day. A close second is SBRT since the treatment course is relatively short as well. IMRT and proton therapy can take up to as much as 5-9 weeks of daily treatment.
4:33 Long term side effects. Since practically every therapy has high cure rates for this stage of the disease it is important to weigh the side effects. Even though it is not curative, primary hormone therapy or TIP (testosterone inactivating pharmaceuticals) wins since its side effects are reversible, and it doesn’t have long term side effects like surgery or radiation. A tier below this is all of the radiation treatment options. There is barely any difference between the side effect profiles of each different type of radiation, assuming of course that your treatment is done at a quality center. At the bottom of the list is surgery, it has higher chances of impotence, and poses a risk of incontinence that the other treatments don’t typically cause.
6:29 Summary. All these treatments should be considered by patients who have Basic Teal. In terms of cure rates and convenience, seed implants seem to score the highest. If you are trying to avoid side effects, hormone therapy can be a good option. It is a good idea to make a list of all the options and cross off the ones that you absolutely don’t want. The key is avoiding bad consequences since cure rates are generally very high.
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Thank you Dr Mark, and may the Lord bless you and your family . You are a truly a good physician and also a great blessing to prostate cancer patients.
Sensible advice...of course, the question of where ARE the "Quality Centers", is sometimes difficult to determine if you are not in a major city (and sometimes even if you are in a major city).
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Great Video that spells out exactly what the title states. A rare example of a great teacher.
Gosh this is good information. So Easy to understand and helpful. Thank you.
One of your best, thanks. I had HDR Brachytherapy and am very happy with the results.
Glad HDR worked out for you! My only fear w HDR is long term urinary urgency or burning. Did you have these side effects and did they clear up? Thank you.
@@artmaltman That did not happen in my case. Inflammation only lasted 10 days.
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Was HDR your only treatment? I had HDR. Just before I had the procedure, my PSA was 12.68. Because of COVID-19, I had to wait a year to check my PSA. My first and only PSA so far was 4.04.The doctors wanna see me in six weeks. They thought the PSA should be lower. What was your PSA after a year.
@@arthro9259 Yes. My PSA had been increasing by one point every year to an 8. My first PSA after will be in March. Treatment was in November.
@@cooperjdcox49 Good morning were you on active surveillance before treatment? What is your PSA now ? Did you have a Gleason 3+4 ? Thank you and Merry CHRISTMAS
Thank you for all of this wonderful information
Dr. Scholz: if I have both bladder cancer (non-muscle invasive) as well as intermediate grade prostate cancer, is it true that for the treatment of the prostate cancer I should not do radiotherapy, because radiotherapy will more likely cause recurrence of bladder cancer? Thanks.
This was good at identifying treatments, but without some numbers, its really hard to distinguish between options.
My husband, 60, has basic intermediate risk prostate cancer (Teal). Not mentioned in Dr Scholz's excellent list of options, is NanoKnife therapy (irreversible electroporation). It would be great to hear his thoughts on this to see whether that can be considered to be a valid option. In terms of side effects it is promising. Some studies put IRE effectiveness at comparable levels with surgery.
Hi, our prostate cancer helpline may be able to answer your questions and help you find helpful information. Please feel free to contact us here: pcri.org/helpline
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I have Gleason 7. I didn;t get to choose a treatment. I was told that CyberKnife was available and the only one for my age. I have done two of the five treatments so far. Very unpleasant. Can;t wait to finish. Gotta be done.
What is unpleasant about the SBRT? (I am high Teal so if I don’t do surgery it will be hormone plus SBRT plus HDR. thank you.
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I wish focul therapy options were addressed and how they compare to radiation in terms of cure rates.
My father 74 age recently been diagnosed Gleason 3+4=7 , 2 grade, psa 8,8,biopsy 4 of 12 positve all left and left centar 1 and 2 (6%-10%),3 and 4(11%-20%)
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Hi, my psa 9.0 and 3+4=7 , 3 positive, 2 were 3+3 and 1 was 10% 4, I'm wondering what treatment your father chose and how was side effects and how is he now. Thank you
@@masoudsaeedinia2191 External Beam Radiotherap EBRT he dont have side efect
Dr Scholz, Could you please explain how and why some men are not suitable candidates for seed implants? How and why does calcification occur? Is it possible to still have seed implants where a prostate shows calcification?
I am “not buying” the hormone therapy being a simple on off regarding negative side effects and duration.
Innovative cancer Institute in Miami Florida a good place for radiation therapy for a 3+4=7 my psa has been 13.7 now is 8.2 has been dropping I found it high after covid 19
Got a prostatectomy three weeks ago as Gleason score was 4+4. After histopathology ( 3+4) have been advised to go in for hormone therapy with Bicalutamide 50 mg. Is the line of treatment good and appropriate. I am in my 69th year at present.
Rakesh,
Hello! Are they planning to add another hormone therapy in the near future? Bicalutamide is usually initiated a few weeks before starting hormone therapy with a drug like Lupron to prevent the testosterone flare associated with that medication.
Also, do you mean that the biopsy pathology was 4+4 and the surgical pathology was 3+4, or the other way around?
The best person to speak to from our organization would be one of our patient advocates on the free helpline. you are welcome to contact us here: pcri.org/helpline
Too late for me but then my doctor really did not cover any options on how and if it could be slowed down. For sure did not cover the risk for bad side affects. Hormone treatments have given me a terrible life from side affects. I have no idea if it gave me more time at age 75.
I read an article in the internet back in 2008 that people who had hip xray have 2 or 5 times chance to develop prostate cancer, as my father been dignosed at age 68 and i am only 36 and had hip xray a month ago now i am suffering from anxiety adepression how accurate is this risk factor.
Hello, our prostate cancer helpline may be able to help with your question. Please feel free to contact us here: pcri.org/helpline
my god i have been looking for this !!
Does your age matter when it comes to seed implants when you have basic teal ?
Which doctors and treatment centers in California does Dr Scholz recommend for a man with prostate cancer?
Hello MBS, our prostate cancer helpline can help you find a information for your area. Please feel free to contact us here: pcri.org/helpline
Hormone therapy is brutal. Hot flashes, extreme fatigue, mood swings.
How fo you say men recover after hormone blockade or ADT, when a significant number of older men NEVER RECOVER their testosterone levels above castrate level???
....Isnt this information necessary for full disclosure before men can give FREE AND FULLY INFORMED CONSENT??????
That thinking has changed, lack of T to castration levels atrophies the penis muscles and more than 6 will takes many months to wash out.
@@johnmchale8308
Once penile tissue atrophies, there is NO RECOVERY.
However, even on ADT CASTRATION with its total destruction of libido, it is still possible to achieve partial or full erections if a concerted effort is made with the help of mental, visual, and physical stimulation, and with help from 5 mg daily of Cialis, or even Alprostadil or triMix injections.
This is absolutely necessary because nocturnal erections are non existent, and penile tissue needs oxygenated blood into the penis to prevent permanent atrophy.
It may seem like a frustrating waste of effort because orgasms are impossible, but, just like exercise to prevent or reduce muscle wasting, getting erections on ADT is essential.
Use it or lose it.
This is overly simplistic at best. There is no attempt to differentiate between intermediate risk based on Gleason score, capsular penetration and other factors that can and should strongly influence one’s decision on treatment. In addition, characterizing hormone blockade’s side effects as insignificant is misleading.
@@jimo50
Doctors obfuscate and minimizes the horrific quality of life destroying and life shortening side effects of ADT CASTRATION.
Dementia and brain fog are always denied as well as the very long term partial or total CASTRATION because testosterone recovery takes years, if ever.
After 18 months or more of Leuoprolide type ADT, 75 percent of all men WILL NOT RECOVER THEIR TESTOSTERONE LEVELS EVEN AFTER A MEDIAN TIME OF FIVE YEARS.
....Up to twenty percent of older men will never recover above CASTRATE LEVEL and suffer the rest of their miserable lives as ZOMBIE EUNUCHS.
We are being coerced, deceived, intimidated and extorted into CASTRATION against our will like concentration camp inmates.