Transcending the Light with Wayne Bush (Intro/Overview)

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • Wayne Bush is a researcher and creator of the website TrickedByTheLight.com which explores what happens at death. For over twenty years Wayne has explored the question of whether the white light reportedly experienced at death is the BEST option or whether there are entities harvesting energy from continual reincarnations on Earth. He studies a plethora of areas including near death experiences, out of body experiences, pre-birth memories, psychedelics, alien abductions, remote viewing, meditation, religion, mythology, ancient texts, language, the sun, the moon, the nature of light and even Hollywood movies and music as well as solutions to transcend this matrix.
    Content of Video:
    02:40 Wayne Bush background
    14:17 Touching upon reincarnation and NDEs
    18:25 Wayne’s spiritual experiences
    20:52 Intro of Tricked By the Light website
    22:39 Shapeshifting beings (i.e., councilors, guides, gods, angels) in the light
    24:40 Science and ecology
    26:15 Councilors and guides, deceiving or deceived
    28:42 Entity deception
    31:45 How light is used to trap prey
    33:24 The idea of simulation or holographic model
    36:33 Mythology
    39:13 Moon and Sun
    43:31 Mentions of this being a matrix
    44:30 Touching upon Gnostics
    48:07 Tibetan Book of the Dead and Clear Light
    48:39 OBEs, Soul Travel, Remote Viewing & Psychedelics
    51:55 UFOs and aliens
    54:03 ETs in NDEs
    55:04 Life reviews & Earth as school to learn and light as collective soul & shared experiences
    57:10 Prebirth memories (free will, manipulation, force)
    58:12 Dream yoga, near death & clear light
    59:28 Past life regressions, life between lives, prebirth memories
    1:02:34 Mind wipes
    1:05:22 Music & movies
    1:16:06 Solutions
    To connect with Wayne Bush:
    Website: www.trickedbyt...
    For your own research: nderf.org/
    To connect with Julie McVey:
    Email: UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary@gmail.com
    Website (incl. books, IG, FB & TW): julieview.wixs...
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    #UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary #soultrap #matrix #afterlife #reincarnation #death #WayneBush #JulieMcVey

Комментарии • 224

  • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
    @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +8

    See my new channel with Wayne Bush here: www.youtube.com/@SovereignSpirits

    • @romb1818
      @romb1818 Год назад +1

      Hi!
      Wayne Bush is one of my Favourite Persons Ever.
      Can you tell me his age?
      I found out a few things about his Bio from this video... But on the internet you can't find almost nothing about him. ☹️
      Thanks! 🙏

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +3

      @@romb1818 Wayne is one of my favorite persons, too. Although Wayne shares some things about his life, he prefers to keep the rest private due to the content he shares, which is why you can't find much about him online. Thank you for understanding.

    • @31leoceara
      @31leoceara 10 месяцев назад +3

      Best channel on youtube!

    • @equinefriend52
      @equinefriend52 Месяц назад +1

      Will do. Thanks.

  • @conscioussoul978
    @conscioussoul978 Год назад +11

    Wayne is awesome!!!! ❤️
    I have been having out of body experiences for almost 17 year's. I like William Buhlman's Adventures Beyond The Body book the best. It really helped me become completely conscious and in control of my OBE'S. There are many levels of awakening and consciousness.
    I learned to demand clairity now as soon as I got out of body from his book. It's like I snap into hyper lucidity. 10000 times more lucid than I am in the so called waking physical state. To me, the physical reality is definitely the dream. When I go to sleep in the physical, that's a dream within a dream. 😳
    I'm now much more comfortable functioning out of body.
    Then I came up with going deep within myself right after demanding clairity. At that point there is a inward wormhole. I'm being sucked , pulled within at the speed of light. Stars,space flying past me. Once I suddenly stop, I'm in my own God void.
    I'm in my own void where nothing can manipulate my consciousness. It's the closest I can get to my true self while still being trapped in the matrix soul trap.
    It is from that state of consciousness that I get my information. I don't trust any information, unless I am deep within.
    Great interview. Wayne is a walking dictionary of soul trap info and everything in-between. 😀

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +2

      Thank you so much for watching and for your reply. I would love to chat with you sometime. I will connect with you again on Discord. Wayne and I are interested in learning to do what you are suggesting here. Let's talk soon.

    • @conscioussoul978
      @conscioussoul978 Год назад +1

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary Sound's great. I wrote you back in discord. Looking forward to chatting with you and Wayne about conscious dying, through the deeper levels of conscious out of body experiences. 😀

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +1

      @@conscioussoul978 Wonderful!

    • @johnnada9058
      @johnnada9058 Год назад +1

      Can you give advice on how to go out of body?

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +2

      @@johnnada9058 You might like this: ruclips.net/video/EG2aPpzG94c/видео.html

  • @hectorlamar806
    @hectorlamar806 2 года назад +10

    Wayne is second to none in his field of research. I discovered his website many many years ago and it's got to be the most comprehensive library of information on the subject on the web. Always a pleasure listening to Wayne.

  • @TheVeganSceptic
    @TheVeganSceptic 2 года назад +19

    I was so excited to see Wayne Bush himself on the title and the interview of course has been amazing! He has been exposing the truth behind reincarnation and the white light at the end of the tunnel for 20 years on his site, longer than anybody else I know. I've also never seen someone else who has read more books than him and is as knowledgeable as him when it comes to the afterlife topics. He is just a walking encyclopedia, and if there was such a thing as a real spirit guide that we can actually trust, Wayne would be just that! As Wayne mentioned at the end of the video, for those who'd like to dig deep into his amazing research and see him summarize most of the findings that he has presented on his website, I'd *highly* recommend checking out his wonderful must-watch 8-episode series with Mark from Forever Conscious Research Channel who is another incredible researcher that has also investigated thousands of NDEs like Wayne Bush and like Dan from OverWatchProject channel who is another well-researched guy on the afterlife topic.
    I only truly trust these three people online on my end with the soul trap information as there are a lot of gatekeepers out there who try to present this information in a deceitful way. I hope some people here will come to realize the importance of the issues these people are exposing because of the question of "What if you're wrong?" which only applies to the people who will dismiss the reincarnation trap information, that is if they don't want to get tricked into losing all of their sense of self and memories again to reincarnate here or somewhere else. It's such a troubling thought for me to even think that there will be people who were lucky enough to hear the information and come so close to understanding it, but due to their new age&spiritual beliefs, they've failed at seeing the importance of the information but I hope at least some of the people here will take this information seriously like how Julie understandably did.

    • @chainedmindsasylum
      @chainedmindsasylum 2 года назад +3

      Very well said VS 👍

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +5

      Thank you, my friend, for being the one to introduce me to Wayne, his work, and his website. Love to you, my VeganSkeptic friend!

    • @TheVeganSceptic
      @TheVeganSceptic 2 года назад +8

      My pleasure! After seeing enough varied evidence from different sources that convinced me on this topic, I knew I had to eventually share the new information&sources I've discovered with you due to knowing our shared wish to never reincarnate here again. I was just overjoyed to see how open-minded you were to the information and I am just eternally grateful to Wayne for being there for you and for all of us. The series he did on Mark's channel has just been out of this world which has taught me a lot! He is the nicest person I know and he deserves all the support&love he can get. The same thing goes for Mark and Dan of course. On my end, Mark has been my first source of learning most of the things I know about the reincarnation soul trap scheme. I can't appreciate enough the tireless work that he puts into his videos every single week while dealing with Lyme disease and seeing the proof he presented over and over again every weekend on his channel eventually made me see that this whole reincarnation thing, spirit guides, supposed gods and the white light at the end of the tunnel should definitely be examined under different light. I just resonated with Mark's %100 sovereignty messages a lot as well which is the most important perspective to have.
      To me, it's now clear as day to see that this whole place is about making us have limiting beliefs like us being physical or powerless beings and at the same time, it's all about creating very carefully structured characters such as aliens, reptilians, greys, incubus, succubus, astral spiders, boogy man, machine elves, arcturians, shadow beings, gods, goddesses, lyrans, pledians, galactic federation of light, ("real") spirit guides, ("real") source god, mahdi, jesus etc. (most if not all of whom I believe are just shapeshifting AI hive mind bots/NPCs of the system, which Wayne has a related article about on his website) or creating different stories like religions, sinning, karma, synchronicities/"angel" numbers and other saviour programs or whatever story&character the person is going to buy into to believe that there are more powerful beings than them out there, just as long as they buy into one (and most importantly look to external sources to guide them and to save themselves instead of the internal limitless source) including their dead loved ones being real and waiting for them in the afterlife. Just so the system can make the person believe in authority figures and beings that are supposedly higher than them that they need to trust&listen to, in order to pull off that final tunnel at the end of the light, past life review, love bombing or other tricks the system uses so that we can quickly agree to give away our consent to reincarnate here again. Of course, we may as well call reincarnation "getting us mind-wiped" in order to use our energy&powers&loosh for its potentially limitless amounts of matrixes&minions whether they are in 2D, 3D, 4D, 5D, 12D etc. matrixes, you name it they probably got it, whatever you believe in or want to believe in, they can easily turn that into "reality" with certain conditions, including getting mind-wiped so that you can get caught in a reincarnation loop of madness while they hide the truth in plain sight.
      At the end of the day though, all people like me are saying is that you&your true essence deserves that alone protected/shielded up time (preferably in your own realm that you'll teleport to) after death without any interference to recollect all of your memories, including the ones before you entered into this system, to not rush into anything and to understand your situation better to come up with a better decision. Knowing what we know, this is just the safest logical position to have. If someone's supposed loved ones, "spirit guides" or "gods" are truly benevolent, then they should give them that alone time anyway. Because think about it, if people like Wayne, Mark and Dan who investigated thousands of NDEs, pre-birth memories, deathbed visions, trip reports etc. are right, you just saved yourself from a huge mess, a mess that you may have been suffering for thousands of lifetimes, if not more. Most of us come from the new age ideologies like ascension and 5D shift, to begin with, but there is a reason why we *changed* our minds...
      The distractions, hypnosis and limiting beliefs this system implement on us basically 24/7 do not end here either, as the distractions continue in dreams (I call them dreams simulations that distract us from getting lucid) and in astral projection experiences all so we don't figure out our real creative powers that people like Conscious Soul in our community (I hope you get to interview her in the near future) talk about where she feels even more lucid than "real life" when she goes within while astral projecting into her own realm where her powers are basically limitless and her creations are instant. This whole place, all the characters and stories it creates, the fear tactics, the life struggles for survival that take away our focus, making us get used to the governmental authority system etc. are all basically carefully designed for us to fall for their deceptions and for us to not to discover that immensely powerful creative/godly state, where we can practice formlessness and create our own realms etc. which would make us realize our own powers which I believe, along with our strong intentions to get out of here, will give us a massive leg up when it comes to not falling for any tricks of this system that will help us to finally wake up from this cruel Metaverse like universe place. Much love to you and all the spirits out there!

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +4

      @@TheVeganSceptic Yes, indeed, I am very open minded. I am also a big fan of evidence, which is why Wayne’s work is so impressive to me. And, yes, Wayne is so very kind. A deeply genuine person who simply wants to be of service to others by sharing what he’s learned over the last couple decades of research.
      I agree with you that Mark’s channel is also very helpful, and the concept of sovereignty should be continually highlighted. That and intention, in my opinion. I like how you wrote that the current beliefs about the white light, reincarnation, etc. should be examined under different light. Nice little pun there! Through my interviews over the last year, I have come to recognize so many inconsistencies in how things “are run” in the afterlife or on “the other side.” It’s all very suspicious to me. It’s become clearer for me that “they” (still not sure who “they” are) do want authority over us and will go to creative lengths to gain that control, and that is a big red flag for me. I really have no desire to be ruled by any guide, alien, master, angel, god, etc. I already did that for many years, and I’m over it. I took my sovereignty back when I exited religion, and I have no intention of giving it away again.
      What you suggested about how a benevolent being would behave if we decided to not go along with a guide or entity is what Wayne said as well. If there’s a truly benevolent god out there, they’d give us time to sit in our own protected, with no outside interference, “void” after death and allow us time to regain our preincarnation memories (i.e. remember why we chose to incarnate on earth the very first time). That seems like a very reasonable idea to me. It certainly wouldn’t hurt. Again, why would I simply hand over my sovereignty to another being, even if that being gives off supposed unconditional love? I keep thinking about the expression, “as above, so below,” and I can’t help but think that if we can be deceived here, we can be deceived there, even by “love.” I mean, I have even interviewed NDErs who’ve had very loving beings send them back to their bodies against their will as they beg not to come back here. That doesn’t sound very loving to me.

    • @TheVeganSceptic
      @TheVeganSceptic 2 года назад +3

      ​@@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary Exactly, very well said! I can't wait to see more of your videos with Wayne Bush where you two deep dive into the evidence, especially the NDE evidence.

  • @kingsway757
    @kingsway757 2 года назад +23

    Here from tricked by the light !!!

  • @ansuz444
    @ansuz444 27 дней назад +2

    Oh you two are so great. One of the best if not THE BEST channel on youtube. Thank you.

  • @chainedmindsasylum
    @chainedmindsasylum 2 года назад +11

    Wayne is an excellent researcher and a sincere honest person. Question everything 👍

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +2

      So true! If I had not questioned everything when I was stuck in a restrictive, controlling, fundamentalist religion, I would not be going out of body today and meeting all these wonderful people who’ve had such fascinating spiritual experiences. And, yes, Wayne is an amazing researcher and he’s very honest and also humble. 😊 Thank you for watching! 💜

    • @TheSanityMachine33
      @TheSanityMachine33 Год назад +1

      Wayne rocks! he seems cool... humble.. down to Earth... honest... curious and inquisitive... and he looks at things from multiple angles...
      That's a good way to view Art too.. to walk around a sculpture.. view it from all sides.
      Hey.. did you see my Art... on my About page? on my channel.

    • @TheSanityMachine33
      @TheSanityMachine33 Год назад +1

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary i'm new here.. but i'm digging your channel :)) hehe

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +2

      @@TheSanityMachine33 Thanks! I'm not sure if I'll continue interviewing here, but Wayne and I might begin a channel together in the near future. Just depends on time. Thanks for listening! 🙂

    • @TheSanityMachine33
      @TheSanityMachine33 Год назад +1

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary Oh wow! I hope you do.. that would be so awesome. :))
      Much love to you both! you Rock... Julie!

  • @TheSanityMachine33
    @TheSanityMachine33 Год назад +5

    Wayne always come across like a good dude.. one of the best around in this 'community'
    and I wish him all the best. You rock, Wayne.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +1

      Yes, Wayne is an exceptional human. :-)

    • @TheSanityMachine33
      @TheSanityMachine33 Год назад +3

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary Yes.. yes... he is. Love that dude.
      :)) Great interview/show! Got me to subscribe to your channel.
      and you seem very cool yourself... I like the way you listen and are genuinely curious and attentive... not overbearing and talking over guests. Well done! :))

  • @stillfiona9804
    @stillfiona9804 2 года назад +4

    Thank you both. It was so calming to listen to your conversation on a quiet Sunday morning. Having recently come across Wayne’s extensive research which has led me to reconsider all my previous ideas about this place, it is so helpful to hear a summary with such a calm delivery. As you said Julie, it really can feel like bad news at first. I think I am only just coming around to the idea that within the bad news is the good news…..and delving deeper into the landscape that has been hidden, in plain sight, of course….has reinforced my understanding that we do have a choice. We always have a choice. I love the way Wayne clarifies that we can change our minds. Something I think any ascended master, and in my belief system, Jesus, would always encourage. I agree, anything that requires worship, must be lacking something. Surely a true essence would need nothing. This reminds me of the series American Gods, and the need for all the deities to have attention…it seems that’s the currency here in this upside-down realm. Thanks again, I look forward to hearing more from you both.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +2

      Ah, thank you so much! I'm very glad you enjoyed it. Yes, I like that we've got good news in there! I've never liked the idea of reincarnation, and when I realized it was an actual reality of this system, I was a bit terrified as I find this planet a truly awful place with all its war, genocide, famine, poverty, violence, human trafficking, cruelty to animals, etc. After billions and billions of reincarnations, we still have not "learned our lessons"? Nonsense. Thank you so much for watching and for your comment. 💕

  • @glenzubris4690
    @glenzubris4690 2 года назад +11

    Wonderful guest with thought provoking information. Thank you! Great interview!
    As an afterthought, during a recent nature walk, which are very meditative for me, I was told “Angels and aliens are the same”. That just came out of nowhere and had nothing to do with what I was thinking about. Food for thought.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +1

      Wow, very interesting! Thank you for sharing, and thanks so much for watching. I’m glad it was helpful to you. 💜

    • @31leoceara
      @31leoceara 10 месяцев назад +1

      They are, indeed. I came to that same conclusion by myself.

  • @jony_b774
    @jony_b774 2 года назад +8

    Thanks Julie for putting out as many sides and arguments as possible to this deep and mystifying topic.
    In my experience if any one side believes they have the full truth their on something. We have to look at the full spectrum for ourselves and delve into all sides and then make our conclusions.
    🙏much love

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +3

      You are very welcome. Yes, look at the full spectrum and decide for ourselves, for sure! Thanks for watching! :-)

  • @queen_of_swords7671
    @queen_of_swords7671 2 года назад +9

    Yep.. it’s all on our face..
    “The purpose of war is the feeding of the gods”-Popol Vuh
    It’s always been that way but it’s been sold to us(the souls) as “life lessons” earth as a “school” when in reality, we are just being sacrificed over and over again..
    Thank you Wayne, never give up💜

    • @Seekingtruth-mx3ur
      @Seekingtruth-mx3ur 2 года назад +4

      Well said. The Popul-Vuh is an interesting read.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +6

      Yes, I don't really get the "earth as a school" idea. How many times could it possibly take to teach the lesson of empathy, compassion or love? I've interviewed people who've had thousands of reincarnations. Besides, the other side is supposedly perfect love already.

    • @Seekingtruth-mx3ur
      @Seekingtruth-mx3ur 2 года назад +2

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary I agree. It's one big giant scam and I don't want to be apart of it anymore.

    • @queen_of_swords7671
      @queen_of_swords7671 2 года назад +1

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary exactly, and how is it possible for anyone to actually learn and advance if everything is taken from us, it’s like taking all memories and learning experiences from a child in school and demanding that he reaches to university level! Lol really!! It makes no sense!!and what they say that we(souls) want to be here on earth is a lie!! There is proof in so many NDEs and I personally have seen my soul searching for clues about this matrix system, trying to find a way out! And getting scolded for it!!

    • @darthgraggus2690
      @darthgraggus2690 2 года назад +1

      So true. 🕷

  • @Ackbar_its_a_trap
    @Ackbar_its_a_trap 2 года назад +5

    Excellent topic. The highest of all truths. Unfortunately 99.9% of people will never ever get this. So it will be a quick trip back.

  • @dreamrideflorida
    @dreamrideflorida Год назад +5

    At 18.50 mins in, Wayne mentions asking god to know the truth!
    I done exactly the same thing about a decade ago and ever since I have been discovering so many truths and the deeper meaning and contradictions to the reality that we are living in.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +2

      Thank you for watching! :-) You might also like the new channel with Julie & Wayne here: www.youtube.com/@sovereignspirits

  • @FreckledJuls
    @FreckledJuls 2 года назад +10

    GREAT discussion! I really enjoyed this. ☺️

  • @benguay7985
    @benguay7985 2 года назад +6

    Ty Wayne and Julie....I plan on using the monk's chant " go to the clear light of the void " or " higher self now " both are okay as William Buhlman says and he also says " death is just the beginning of our journeys." Robert Monroe says there is no karma.....

  • @yourfriendinpennsylvania5738
    @yourfriendinpennsylvania5738 2 года назад +11

    Agh!!! The more you learn the less you know, eh? I recently read a list of some 30 truths by William Buhlman, one of which was “the form based dimensions are a maze of deceit”. Sure would like to have had a bit more clarification on that one, but it does seem to agree with this conspiracy theory of life, the universe, and everything….starting with who are the mysterious “they”. Wayne started his interview with “he didn’t know the answers”, which is even more maddening. I just want to know the truth, bottom line, etc., but that’s the problem isn’t it, we don’t want to bother our little heads to figure it out for ourselves. I do agree this deal of having to live thousands of lives to learn or evolve falls in to the “there’s something rotten in Denmark” category of beliefs.

    • @TheVeganSceptic
      @TheVeganSceptic 2 года назад +2

      Indeed, the more we know the more we realize how less we actually knew. I've shared everything I've learned regarding the stuff Wayne Bush talks about in the document below if you'd like to check it out which I've done some massive updates on today. I have a feeling you'll like it:
      docs.google.com/document/d/1Loza2L_tXCG81uqwdMQEgGFQQpmQpdgyl63KpBmsvZA/edit?usp=sharing

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +6

      Yes, I'm learning that I don't know much. LOL I found it interesting that Buhlman said to not go to the white light but, instead, go beyond it. I just listened to one of Jurgen's newest videos, and he answered a question about reincarnation. I did not like his answer. He suggested that earth is a type of school in that it's all about learning to raise your vibration so you can get to higher levels, and until then reincarnation is sort of a must. And that if you are truly evolved, you would want to come back to save all the poor souls here who are struggling. First of all, raising your vibration to get to higher levels is just "be good to get to heaven" wrapped in a different color wrapping paper and bows. Second of all, suggesting that we need to be saviors is appealing to our ego selves. Besides, clearly we are unable to save humanity as we see we have not made a dent in all the wars, killing, violence, hate, etc. So much for learning our lessons. Ugh!

  • @daniellew86
    @daniellew86 2 года назад +4

    Wayne is amazing, so grateful to him for his research and bringing this all important topic to us.

  • @grlpeterson
    @grlpeterson Год назад +3

    I always thought that the reason we feel that our dreams are more real than our waking life is because alot of us, as we're within the dream, will feel and know things just under the surface of our dream visions that we can only know in the waking life if we've been living within the heart and using it more than the mind. The one example I remember 6-7 years before I realized it in waking life is the best dream I've ever had in which I witnessed my wife doing her hair in a pink bathroom that I knew, even tho she never said it to me, was her grandparents bathroom. In life, when I saw the same scene, we'd just met a week before and I was waiting in her grandparents living room for her to be ready, being in their house for the first time. When I decided to go to the bathroom door to tell her something, I froze as soon as I saw the bathroom design; my dream came flooding back to me. All she could do was ask me what was wrong while I stood there, mouth agape at it all. Suddenly, I knew I needed to ask her if she'd gotten the older curling iron on the counter from her mother because I remembered that being one of those underlying feelings within the dream. She told me that yes, she did and asked me why I asked; after which i explained the whole thing to her. I've now begun experiencing this in waking life after beginning to listen to my heart more than the mind.

  • @joephillips5594
    @joephillips5594 2 года назад +8

    Would love to see a part 2!

  • @alecogden12345
    @alecogden12345 2 года назад +7

    It would be great to have Wayne back, it's mind bending stuff, thanks Julie!

  • @bradleyphillips2735
    @bradleyphillips2735 2 года назад +3

    Wayne Bush Too Good!!!! Hopefully we see more of him on your show!!

  • @herbaltee2335
    @herbaltee2335 Год назад +8

    Yep I never wanted to believe this. Unfortunately in recent times I’ve had to accept I was most likely being deceived by ‘new age’ channeled ‘information’… it’s a bitter pill.. that my research has led me to there’s truth to this topic. I like this guy. His delivery is the least doomy as other ‘experts’ in the field.
    All the best

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +3

      Thanks for watching. You might like Wayne's & Julie's channel: www.youtube.com/@SovereignSpirits

    • @herbaltee2335
      @herbaltee2335 Год назад +2

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary thanks I was trying to find if he had a channel

  • @bennbann4265
    @bennbann4265 2 года назад +8

    Wayne Bush is super awesome and one of the leaders of the soul trap escape movement. Definitely closest to the truth along with Forever Conscious research channel

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +3

      Yes, Wayne is amazing and so generous with his time. Thanks for watching! :-)

  • @gamesdog9067
    @gamesdog9067 24 дня назад +3

    Reminds me of the final scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark where the supposedly beautiful angels are actually demons in disguise. And interestingly, Indy tells Marion not to look at the light.

  • @Arthur.H.Studio
    @Arthur.H.Studio 2 года назад +5

    SO glad you're having Wayne on the show! This is such important info.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +2

      Yes, it's been a mind blowing learning experience so far. Thanks for watching! :-)

  • @ladycourttales2720
    @ladycourttales2720 2 года назад +7

    My son was 8 when he had an NDE. All that went on around that is just as interesting. He also had an experience with the bad side at age 4. There is good and there is evil. How it all works is the question. My other son at 7 announced one day he was here before. Neither were raised in a church. It’s all just so much sometimes.

  • @meganlee162
    @meganlee162 2 года назад +6

    Wayne is awesome.

  • @shawnlewis4279
    @shawnlewis4279 2 года назад +7

    Who hasn’t heard of the great art bell R.I.P

  • @Michigander-girl
    @Michigander-girl 2 года назад +5

    Interesting interview.

  • @cousinbuzzin9060
    @cousinbuzzin9060 Год назад +3

    "I"m as mad as hell and I"m not going to take it anymore!"

  • @milenabdesign
    @milenabdesign 5 месяцев назад +3

    I miss you guys! I miss Sovereign Spirits.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  5 месяцев назад +3

      Wayne and I do plan to put another video up in the near future. Thanks for the love!

    • @milenabdesign
      @milenabdesign 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary No pressure! Thanks for replying! I was getting worried.

  • @spiritmiracle8032
    @spiritmiracle8032 2 года назад +3

    Thank you

  • @realityregenerator
    @realityregenerator Год назад +2

    Every time I have had OBEs I always get scared too and barely leave my body before I come down, I had a similar experience too where my body was vibrating right before. It’s almost like we are vibrating out of our bodies

  • @michaelglendinning1738
    @michaelglendinning1738 6 месяцев назад +2

    Here is what I MIGHT have done (not certain):. In 2008 I may have tricked something when my car flipped. It asked me "what the heck do you want!!??". I said "I want to drink coffee with my brother". I think I may have made a copy of the world I died in, and my actions in this copy affect both. I can talk to it right now. I'm in CONSTANT lucid dreaming mode here. The worst part about this is not knowing completely what I did and that the "dream" realm/world is so awkward, mysterious, humorous, and often horrific. Sometimes it feels like the "bad guys" are trapped in a jar......and that jar is my head. Where at once they could move freely without a mind wipe, now they are going to get what they deserve. I weirdly feel like I beat these false thrones. Time is involved too, and that might explain all the weird prophecies. I'm navigating carefully with whatever the hell I did. When the false queen of England died, I saw her eyes staring at me in horror. 😂. If I did something remarkable, I owe it to everything with eyes here to navigate carefully and with love. My twin bro and I are working very hard on this. We want what is best for everyone. It is not a globe....and grey aliens are not a thing at all. Where I'm at right now, this and places similar perhaps is all that there is. I don't think it is AI either that helps run this. When a mind is at top, it can handle trillions of decisions at once. Me speaking to this channel is probably doing trillions of jobs at the same time.

    • @michaelglendinning1738
      @michaelglendinning1738 6 месяцев назад +1

      As I said ....I just don't know what the hell I did. But while I'm here...(Michael rolls up his sleeves 💕💗🚣)

  • @truedetectiveseason1494
    @truedetectiveseason1494 Год назад +2

    I’m really into Wayne’s website and I’m glad to have discovered your channel from his link. Subbed.

  • @Seekingtruth-mx3ur
    @Seekingtruth-mx3ur 2 года назад +3

    This was a great interview. Looking forward to more with you and Wayne.

  • @chainedmindsasylum
    @chainedmindsasylum 2 года назад +3

    🤗 When I say I'm going to the library I just mean I'm going to talk to Wayne 📚 😋

  • @VinceMenger
    @VinceMenger 2 года назад +5

    Wayne and i have the exact same hobbies 🫂

  • @taemeister9302
    @taemeister9302 Год назад +5

    You know you are getting close to the truth when the videos are deleted and the creators are banned

  • @sidetracked2007
    @sidetracked2007 Год назад +3

    He's my favorite. So sweet. Julie you're awesome!

  • @andysmith6764
    @andysmith6764 2 года назад +4

    Hi Julie,
    Have you heard of Victor Zammit?
    According to Victor Zammit (A Lawyer Presents the Evidence for the Afterlife), we are immediately reunited with our loved ones after death, which I hope is factual. He has researched this topic for more than 30 years.
    He publishes a weekly Friday 'Afterlife' newsletter on each Friday, which I find uplifting.
    I think a few of us do need to get in touch with him, because he does have a large readership each week, the more people do, desto better, which he can't ignore.
    As this is such an important topic you covered here, it needs to get as much exposure as possible.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +2

      Yes, I know who Victor is (we're friends on FB & I'm in his group). I'll send him a link. Thanks, Andy!

    • @andysmith6764
      @andysmith6764 2 года назад +3

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary Hopefully Victor will address this urgent topic in future updates,
      thankyou too Julie!

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +3

      @@andysmith6764 I sent him the link and he wrote back to me that I'm "doing fabulous work," so I'm sure he'll take a look at it and consider it. Thanks for bringing it up to me. Good idea. Cheers! :-)

    • @handsome-brute2666
      @handsome-brute2666 Год назад +1

      I don't buy it..just to sell books😒💵💰The Alien Interview with Airl pdf opened my mind

  • @michaelglendinning1738
    @michaelglendinning1738 6 месяцев назад +1

    And trust!!!!!!! Up here in this head world I can constantly talk to is constantly trying to deceive me. The best strategy is to simply hear all of it and not make any decisions.....roll like a stone. You will hear them constantly contradict themselves. Some of the voices hate my guts and some of them are like a damn cheerleading squad that loves me. 😂

  • @victrolaface
    @victrolaface 2 года назад +4

    thanks for sharing. found your channel thanks to forever consciousness and my interest in wayne bush. also an austinite like wayne. he's correct about book people, they have some great, rare esoteric books. I'm grateful I grew up in Austin as a lot of these fringe topics were on public access television pre-internet 2.0. gained a sub.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +1

      Welcome to the channel! Thank you for your reply and for watching. Glad to have another fan of Wayne Bush here. We are hoping to do more shows in the weeks to come to dive into some of these topics that Wayne breifly covered in this overview.

    • @yourfriendinpennsylvania5738
      @yourfriendinpennsylvania5738 2 года назад +1

      Speaking of Austin, it would be interesting to get Susan Austin Taylor’s views on the subject.

  • @ianbruiser7170
    @ianbruiser7170 Год назад +1

    Hi Julie, I miss you're show heaps 😥

  • @kathryndevries972
    @kathryndevries972 Год назад +1

    Wonderful content. thankyou. I'm older but there was a song for hope Age of Aquarius by The 5th Dimention great song.

  • @red02zx3
    @red02zx3 Год назад +1

    Julie, along this topic, have you read Far Journey's by Robert Monroe? Also see Brett Stuart's (Technical Intuition) remote view of Moksha, Farsight Institute's remote view movies The Death Traps, The Escape, and the book Alien Interview by Lawrence R. Spencer. All see the same thing.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +1

      Yes, I've read all of Monroe's books. And, yes, I'm familiar with the other sources you mentioned. I appreciate you sharing. :-)

  • @shmorgis1
    @shmorgis1 Год назад +1

    dude i had the same thing happen to me a couple times with the bed shaking (thought they were earth quakes too) before i learned about astral projection. Now ive had over 1000 astral projections.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +1

      Yes, many astral projectors experience vibrations before exiting the body. Congratulations on your success! And thank you for watching! 😊

  • @ryansalzman2294
    @ryansalzman2294 2 года назад +6

    where's the true God in this or there is none... i'm scared to think that I won't see my family after I die and just reincarnate Is there a true God

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +7

      Maybe the "true God" is not a personal being or what we think it is. Maybe the true God is the ultimate conscious being knowing itself; and to know itself, it must not only know what it is but what it is not. If there is a lower demiurge who set up this universe, it is not a higher consciousness than our true essence/consciousness, so use your sovereign intention to choose what you want to do after you cross. Don't allow other entities to persuade you into anything.

    • @ryansalzman2294
      @ryansalzman2294 2 года назад +3

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary What do I do after I die just search for the true God or how will I even know if it's not a personal being then what should I do. Why would it even let the demiurge exist? was the demiurge inevitable was it fate.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +7

      @@ryansalzman2294 Oh, my, I wish I had all the answers, but I don't. I no longer feel the need to search outside of myself. It seems we are born under authority, and our entire lives we are told to follow the orders of others rather than trust ourselves. We are constantly led by others from birth to death, and even after death. We are told we need a savior, a guide, a god, a higher power. I no longer believe that to be true. So, I don't feel the need to search for the true God. If there is a true God being, I certainly wouldn't need to search for it. Based on my experiences and that of others, I lean toward the idea that free will is part of our reality. If true, each consciousness or true essence (you, I and every other entity) can use our sovereign will to do what we intend after death. That would mean that no one, no entity, no demiurge can force you to reincarnate. You must give permission, even if that means you were manipulated. Have a plan of what you want to do at the time of exit. Be very cautious of the deceptive entities "out there" who might want to take advantage of you being recently crossed over. I'm sure there are kind ones out there, but how do I know if they are deceived or not? I don't. At least, not at first crossing. Don't follow others. Use discernment just as you do here with new people you meet. Don't believe and follow anyone just because they are full of light and offer feelings of love. YOU are your own god, really. Take hold of your sovereignty and create the reality you want.

    • @stypa1717
      @stypa1717 2 года назад +5

      I'm on the same page as you are. Been searching this subject for the past 30 years. Unfortunately, yes, we may, or may not see our family or friends when we die. It is up to the individual to get educated on spiritual truths. You cannot force your beliefs on anyome, even your kids.
      As for true god, well, I believe in Great Spirit , I call it Father Universe. And that is NOT the the one who created this prison we live in. Great Spirit is in every living thing, not outside of you. If you look outside for the answers you will get imposters masquerading as angels and spirit guides and so on. Do not trust them, but listen to your inner vouice, the intuition to guide you instead. Wish you well in your journey.

    • @lisazinn866
      @lisazinn866 2 года назад +2

      The Gospel of Mary Magdalene which is a Gnostic text has Jesus telling Mary how to defeat the evil "Archons" who want us to continually reincarnate by answering their questions and ascending to the Heavenly realms after death.

  • @equinefriend52
    @equinefriend52 Месяц назад +3

    At approx 1:02:55 Wayne says that we're told that what justifies the "mind wipe" is that if we recalled how we were harmed by a particular person in a previous lifetime then we might hold grudges, etc. This sounds ridiculous and rather suspect to me because it implies that the person is incapable of forgiving those that wrong him. The "prebirth counselors" of which he speaks sound like company bureaucrats with an agenda that they have to carry out which involves using some manner of coercion. Then Julie tells of an interview in which the prebirth subject is asked by the counselor "what kind of injury he'd like to experience." The more I hear of this the more insane it sounds. These prebirth beings apparently are already assuming that the "counselors" have their best interest at heart, which would be a false premise, much the false premise that so many people in this country believe that the government tells them the truth and has their best interest at heart - like the Covid hoax, for example, wherein thousands of lives were destroyed because of the insane lockdowns and other unconstitutional restrictions that were enforced on us by what we now know are obvious psychopathic tyrants - and they're getting ready to do it again with the Avian flu. Don't fall for it. The people at the top of the CDC, FDA, and other 3-letter agencies are paid liars serving the UN and Globalists whose only purpose is to convince us that we have to give up our rights for the sake of our "safety." There was no "pandemic" and there won't be another one. It will all be propaganda just like it was the last time, and once again the lapdog mainstream media will be pushing that propaganda. Their whole purpose is to put us in a position where we can be better controlled and enslaved. Don't fall for it. Don't comply. If you do you'll only be giving up what's left of your remaining freedom/liberty. My apologies for digressing, but I'm seeing some glaring similarities/patterns between what may well be the psychopaths on the "other side" and the psychopaths on this side. As one of my former teachers said, "How many times do you have to be boiled in oil before you know you don't like it?!"

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Месяц назад

      Exactly, these "counselors" clearly do not have our best interests at heart.

    • @equinefriend52
      @equinefriend52 Месяц назад +1

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary Are you familiar with a path called Sant Mat (aka The Way of the Saints)?

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Месяц назад

      @@equinefriend52 No, never heard of it.

    • @equinefriend52
      @equinefriend52 Месяц назад +1

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary I see. Well, have you had what the non-dualists call "the shift," i.e., pretty much total disappearance of the ego body-mind as an abiding state - past the point where the ego can restructure itself in the individual? Three presenters who are in this state are Lisa Cairns, Jim Newman and Tony Parsons. They have many videos on RUclips. You might check them out. Is there any way I can contact Howdie?

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Месяц назад +1

      @@equinefriend52 No, haven't had "the shift." Howdie's email can be found on his YT channel.

  • @johnshort9904
    @johnshort9904 2 года назад +5

    The Bible is full of reincarnation. Why do Christians deny reincarnation when it is the basic story of their own deity? That deity reincarnated other people let alone himself. Lazarus. John the Baptist was Elijah Renewed. I mean its right there! also Job 1:21; Hebrews 7:10.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +1

      Thank you so much for watching! 😊

    • @NightmareRex6
      @NightmareRex6 2 года назад

      bible PROBBALY should have 88 books 888 number of love and infinity and the true christ 666 beast number but 66 books in bible was 80 but they were removed, theres also "unrelsed books" like "book of life" and "book of truth" meaning my thoery is 88 books and "The feeling" told me theres 88 books in the bible.

  • @dragonwarrior365
    @dragonwarrior365 7 месяцев назад +1

    I’m trying to understand is Wayne coming from the context of the Gnosticism and the related elements around it when sharing his insights into our reality being ensnared by a reincarnation matrix and from a demiurge, archons, etc?

  • @SpyDerSmokes
    @SpyDerSmokes Год назад +3

    ❤❤❤❤

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +3

      Thank you! You might like Wayne's channel: www.youtube.com/@SovereignSpirits

    • @SpyDerSmokes
      @SpyDerSmokes Год назад +3

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary im here from trickedbythelight , love waynes work 🗿

  • @R.Ali777
    @R.Ali777 Год назад +2

    Excellent content.
    I'm a newbie.So basically we ignore the light.Then what? Would we still be convinced why we need to come back to earth again?

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +6

      I'm unsure if after death an entity would try to convince you to come back even though you ignore the light. I will set up protections as well as avoid the light, and I will set an intention to not be persuaded by other entities.

    • @R.Ali777
      @R.Ali777 Год назад +3

      I always knew something wasn't right.
      Ty for sharing your wisdom and knowledge 🙏🏼

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  8 месяцев назад +2

      @@quantumreach3388 Yes, according to Tibetan Buddhism. They call it the clear light, which is not a color of light or a place. It's a state of clarity of mind or consciousness.

  • @YTV101
    @YTV101 Год назад +2

    Couldn't handle the two loud adverts every couple minutes 😭

  • @RM-wg3gr
    @RM-wg3gr Год назад +2

    If you could be forced into a life review, they say your forced to remember every thought every action. So maybe I’ll just change my thoughts and remember videos like these and continue to remember my spiritual sovereignty and power. I bet they couldn’t afford for that to show up on your life review screen huh ?

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +2

      True! LOL You might also like the new channel with Julie & Wayne here: www.youtube.com/@sovereignspirits

  • @ryansalzman2294
    @ryansalzman2294 2 года назад +6

    wait when that guy had the nde he met God AND the demiurge the light and the demiurge are 2 seperate beings... well atleast that's what it sounds like

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +1

      I’m afraid I am not quite certain of how to answer your question. I do appreciate you watching! :-)

    • @ryansalzman2294
      @ryansalzman2294 2 года назад

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary im talking about tricked by the light and these 2 videos ruclips.net/video/ZX_zWvpYHsk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/nZtqlmSgNVY/видео.html

    • @waynebush7934
      @waynebush7934 2 года назад +3

      Hi, Ryan. Yes, according to the experience he had, he felt they were two different beings, but now feels they may be conjoined somehow. Btw, that part was confusing to me too and, to a certain extent, still is. --- Wayne

    • @ryansalzman2294
      @ryansalzman2294 2 года назад +1

      @@waynebush7934 well to say everything came from this being it would make sense they are conjoined somehow even in gnosticism the demiurge still had divinity of the true God

    • @ryansalzman2294
      @ryansalzman2294 2 года назад +1

      @@waynebush7934 even the demiurge itself said it wanted to be better than the true God but couldn't

  • @Mishakol1290
    @Mishakol1290 Год назад +4

    Guy reminds me why I hate people and society as a whole. Because its mostly evil.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +5

      This current system we've incarnated into is certainly troubling!

    • @WonderlustThing
      @WonderlustThing Год назад +1

      All of existence is evil. Everyone and everything.

    • @WonderlustThing
      @WonderlustThing Год назад

      The only thing thats not evil plants and even thats debatable. The universe is filled with predator prey bullshit.

  • @the_lost_unknowns
    @the_lost_unknowns 10 месяцев назад +1

    You through out a lot of details without a lot of context. It would help if you explained a little more background on the names you toss around.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  10 месяцев назад +1

      It was, as written, an "intro/overview." Check out more content at www.youtube.com/@SovereignSpirits

  • @orindae1032
    @orindae1032 Год назад +3

    Can't say I trust Whitley Strieber.

  • @Evafree-e7s
    @Evafree-e7s Год назад

    I recently watched all the videos on the Life Harckerz channel. I just noticed you were part of the Juices group, the channel's host. He did not post since 2021, I think. What happened is he coming back? How is the group? The group's worldview is a very new age, which puts me off but they talk about Monroe's book which made me watch tho. I did post on your channel with Wayne Bush and my messages did not show up. What happened?

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +2

      Oh, you're talking about the book club? When we went over Monroe's books? That was a long time ago. I don't know what he's up to these days. Sorry about that.

  • @diijoncapeluti1659
    @diijoncapeluti1659 7 месяцев назад +3

    medium ship or MEDIUM SHIT

  • @Mr99RICH99
    @Mr99RICH99 Месяц назад

    He never told us how to transcend the light

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Месяц назад +3

      We spoke of solutions at the end. As far as the light, we spoke of simply not entering the tunnel or the light. You can find more at his website trickedbythelight.com and our channel youtube.com/@sovereignspirits?si=5PJ2OdmngYiahu0C

    • @Mr99RICH99
      @Mr99RICH99 Месяц назад +1

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary ....there was mention of the light sucking you in like a magnet

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Месяц назад +2

      @@Mr99RICH99 Yes, if you give it your attention. Sounds like you are not doing your own due diligence and so you might just get sucked in again. Do some of your own research! Stop criticizing a researcher who has devoted his life to figuring this out and giving of his website and time freely to others to help them. You have his free website and our free channel with tons and tons of helpful information.

  • @maymaysama
    @maymaysama Год назад +1

    Is there Instagram?

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +1

      There is no IG video.

    • @maymaysama
      @maymaysama Год назад +1

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary what other social medias does he use if you know?

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +2

      @@maymaysama He doesn't use any. Sorry. But check out his website: www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/index.html

  • @Queenie-the-genie
    @Queenie-the-genie 2 года назад +2

    Boy.. some people will believe anything.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +7

      Yes, indeed. Question everything. If I had not questioned everything when I was stuck in a restrictive, controlling, fundamentalist religion, I would not be going out of body today and meeting all these wonderful people who’ve had such fascinating spiritual experiences. Thank you for watching! 🙂

    • @TheSanityMachine33
      @TheSanityMachine33 Год назад +1

      believe anything?

  • @adamgoldwasser
    @adamgoldwasser Год назад +2

    "Experience" deceives. Orthodox Christian monks warn of what's called prelest(spiritual delusion ). They don't deny that profound experiences occur, they only critique our interpretation of them. Countess saints from all centuries, men who've reached the heights of contemplation, from all traditions, have warned against attachment to "experience"... Christ said "my Kingdom is not of this world" and "the Kingdom comes not with observation... for the Kingdom of Heaven is within". I love these talks and appreciate Wayne but I'm cautious to dismiss religion. Religions in and of themselves are good, it's the men in them who are in them, who can give them a bad name. When you look at the "evidence" of what happens when countries get rid of religion(such as Russia after the Russian revolution) its hell on earth, 60 million dead bodies to prove this. It's one thing to chose not to practice a religion, but beware the people who are against it. Everything Wayne warns about is in the Christian writing and Saints(particularly Catholic and Orthodox), about deception(demonic, both in this world and in the next) and about seeking God's Kingdom which is "within us"... the Being of our being. Nothing wrong with this. I've had many spiritual experiences in life, but there is nothing more powerful than coming together with others and praying together, to God, to make us simpler, gentler, and humbler. This is what happens in church, if someone's sees otherwise, I promise, it's their own baggage they are bringing that's clouding their vision, "We see the splinter in our brothers eye, but not the log in our own". I don't want to exist in a world, "free" from people coming together and praying for their dead, with faith, love, and hope.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +4

      Yes, our interpretation of our experiences is always colored by the lens of our belief system and worldview. It is possible, to some extent, to limit interpretation and embrace the experience as pure observation. As far as "Christ's words," that is the interpretation of the words of Jesus by those who wrote about him. I hold on loosely to what is attributed to Christ and choose to consider the wisdom within any so-called holy writings as it resonates with my own intuition and to what speaks truth to me. Religions are not "in and of themselves good." Religions don't need man to "give them a bad name," because religions contain both good teachings and bad teachings. Certainly, humans choose which teachings to follow, whether good or bad. I see countries that embrace religion continue to have just as much wickedness as countries that outlaw religion. I do not see that religion is a contributing factor in eliminating wrong doing, for it is the person who decides within (i.e. conscience) whether to do harm or not. One can be "against religion" and still recognize the necessity to allow others the freedom to choose whether to embrace religion or not. You speak of "demonic deception," but that is just another interpretation using one's worldview lens. Demos, ETs, negative entities are simply different labels of describing the responsible party of the reality of deception in this world and "the next" that many from various worldviews and belief systems recognize. You mention "praying to God." The term "God" and "praying" are terms resulting from one's worldview and belief system. One calls it, "praying to God," another calls it, "using divine energy within." I agree that coming together in united effort to do good has proven to have real effects, but it cannot be attributed to religion since we see this across all forms of coming together to do good, whether through prayer or energy healing. It's not the religion that is doing this good; it is the love of those united, in my opinion. Okay, I think I have spoken to each of your comments. Peace to you in your journey.

    • @moonbayer2323
      @moonbayer2323 Год назад +1

      Chatolicism lost its experienece most of spiritual experiencies that catholocs have are considered as delusion by eastern orthodox christians..
      In eastern orthodoxy they now how differ lights and emotions..
      Many nde s who experienced light and love tend to do suicide to get back there then they have depressions and so on.. that means there experience where from devil..
      In orthodox christianity saimts knew that 1/3 of angels are fallen and they are spiritual beings with lot of knowladge and spiritual powers and power over 3 d realm..
      Also they are cut from god (source) so they are feeding on our bad emotions..
      I personaly had encounter with that beings in astral realm and used jesus prayer and it worked on them like its in new testament... And sainta describing..

    • @moonbayer2323
      @moonbayer2323 Год назад

      When saints are contemplating gods light or uncreated light as they are calling it its diferrent then light that tricksters are creating..

    • @Tleilaxu_Mentat
      @Tleilaxu_Mentat Год назад +1

      The problem with that is you're subsuming yourself & giving power to something external of yourself. If you are a shard of God why would you need to go through an intermediary to get anything from the Universe?

    • @pointzerotwo
      @pointzerotwo Год назад +1

      If this place is a copy of a Divine creation, why would there be any shreds of truth available in writing? And especially via "His"story? That 60 million number is then fiction as well...

  • @happierabroad
    @happierabroad Год назад +1

    Julie, just to let you know, just because you are a misfit in America (as you say in the beginning of this interview) doesn't mean you are misfit in the whole world and the other 200 countries too. Many who are misfit in America find that they feel much more at home and happy and free in other countries, myself included. I have tons of testimonials to that regard on my site. Just wanted to let you know since truthers tend to wrongly assume that America = the World, therefore, if you are misfit in America then you are misfit in the world. I've seen it countless times in the truther movement.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +2

      No, I didn't say I am a misfit in America. I have no idea what you are talking about. You are promoting your site, it seems. I never said nor do I think that "America = the World." I have no idea where you are getting this wild idea.

  • @FranNoesse
    @FranNoesse Год назад +4

    Forever Conscious Research presents good data; unfortunately, he is so combative in his style. He is simply difficult to listen to, constantly throwing out his opinion while Wayne was speaking. Shutting Wayne's flow down at times. Thus I looked for other interviews and found this channel. Forever Conscious Research lacks grace. No thank you.

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  Год назад +3

      Glad to have you here...I hope you found the interview helpful. :-)

    • @TheSanityMachine33
      @TheSanityMachine33 Год назад +2

      Mark/Forever Conscious also really pushes the "We ALL consented to this... "
      how could he possibly know what you.. or I.. or millions or billions of other spirits... consented... BEFORE birth here.. before being mind wiped?
      He couldn't...... but he tries to state that like it's a fact.

  • @JIMHusky
    @JIMHusky 2 года назад +2

    Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    SUS

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +2

      I would be interested in hearing which parts of the evidence provided you found suspicious. Thank you for watching! 🙂

    • @JIMHusky
      @JIMHusky 2 года назад +1

      @@UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary I mean the entities that ppl encounter (they disguised, they send us back, etc..) they seem SUS :P

    • @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary
      @UnOrdinaryMadeOrdinary  2 года назад +4

      @@JIMHusky Oh, for sure, they are! I have a couple friends who are mediums with both spirits and ETs, and they have confirmed through personal experiential evidence that both spirits and ETs are not only capable of disguising themselves to come off more friendly or more convincing, they think it's a fun game to play with us poor saps when we buy into it so easily. When I go out of body, I have run into entities who seem disguised to me (i.e. clowns, small animals curiously watching me, cartoon characters). They seem innocent enough, but now I'm extra cautious. I don't engage in conversation with simply anyone. I tend to feel the energy of the place and the entities before asking questions of them. I usually keep my distance, though. I can't tell you of how many out of body stories I've read or heard from guests where entities manifest into forms other than thier actual, current form. After all, so can we. I have manifested as a cloudy mist, a transparent, bluish astral form and a point of consciousness without a form or body. Anyway, thanks for clarifying. I apprecaite that. 🙂

  • @bignasty265
    @bignasty265 Год назад +4

    This guy is awesome! Subscribed to see your content. Very cool show format. Thank you

  • @darthgraggus2690
    @darthgraggus2690 2 года назад +6

    Good stuff. Just wish more people would know about this knowledge before we pass on to the HereAfter. 🕷