I'm reading the comments, laughing, and doing some minor trolling! ;) But, lest be sincere... in all the comments, so far I've only found ONE well researched, compelling, conterargument... the others sound like trolling...
@@HaroldoPinheiro-OK Bro, I am brazillian, and I know Santos Dumont didn't invent the airplanes, he was a fucking genius, but he just didn't invent it, simple
I REALLY like stories of early WW1 being friendly. Nobody wanted to die, nobody wanted to kill anybody else. The powers at the top essentially forced them to.
Stoners of the past: "Just imagine, one day you could have rows of people being flown across the Atlantic in winged flight craft powered by mechanical engines!" Regular Person: "Riiiiiiiiiight"
9:00 There was an even more "interesting fix" to the problem. Some experimented with partially armoured propellers so that bullets that hit the propeller blades would not destroy them but turn into fun little ricochets that kept the pilot from getting bored.
I AM BRAZILIAN.I'm not making an outrage comment talking about Santos Dumont.after all,he didn't FLY exactly.it made a rather "big jump machine",that got a few meters of altitude,flew for a few seconds,and landed.
@@animarthur5297 but the real question thus comment asks of you, do you like big butts? (please don't lie, I hear tell these other brothers can't deny)
The entire comments section in a nutshell: Where's the Santos Dummont? Where's the Santos Dummont? Where's the Santos Dummont? Where's the Santos Dummont? Where's the Santos Dummont?
it just clicked to me how nightmarish air raids must have been for someone who was, say, 60 in WWII. You would have distinct memories of a world essentially without flight. Now not only is flight around to stay, but you're literally watching the world you've always known, your home, be blasted away by hulking metal behemoths flying threw the sky in the hundreds. I genuinely can't imagine what that must be like.
Deciding to go to school to be a pilot has been one of the best decisions of my life, and you did a great job on this video, it lines up with a lot of the stuff I've learned here at an accredited university.
To everyone asking about Santos Dumont, he left out tons of important figures in aviation. From French-men to English-me, to Germans, to other Americans, Russians, and pretty much every other well-industrialized nation at the time. To have included them would have made this a documentary, not a RUclips video.
He didn't do much. The No. 6 airship was built 17 years after La France, and the 14 bis was not only built 3 years after the Wright Flyer, but was a VASTLY inferior design.
If humanity were to be an aquatic species, we would look similar but with different features. Our body would be more streamlined and with fins to maximize speed. Our eyes wouldn't be needed, maybe we would rely on echolocation like dolphins. We would have hair to provide warmth for us. Our skin color would be blueish in nature for camouflage. We wouldn't have become sentient due to no ability to make fire, as it incentivized intelligence. The ocean is a bit too hostile to allow for any sentience to develop, only way is for us to grow two legs and then walk on land. We would remain as instinct driven competitors to dolphins, being hunted by sharks and stuff.
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
+Haroldo Pinheiro he didn't use a catapult. +Fly Beep He's still a very notable figure, more so than Gustave Whitehead. Dumnont also invented the airport.
On the first flight at kitty hawk the wright brothers didn’t use a catapult, they got off under their own power. They only used a track because they couldn’t use wheels on the sand.
You didn't mention the Wright brothers big idea that made their success possible. From observing the soaring of seagulls in updrafts, that the birds would make slight changes in the shape of the wing to remain on station. These slight corrective changes were what achieved the stability that had eluded previous heavy than air attempts.
"For a long time, people quite literally strapped wings to their arms and jumped off stuff." *Uses an image of Otto Lilienthal, perhaps one of the first people to wholly understand the physics of flight and then successfully put them into practice with his gliders (which did in fact work)*
Any time I hear someone say "that won't happen in our lifetime" all I can think is, "we went from the 100 ft first powered flight to the moon in 66 years. We went from the wright brothers to the sr-71 in (approximately) 60. From the wright flyer to the concord in 75." Very little is out of the reach of advancement.
Here’s the thing about flying. It’s fairly, as there are two steps. The first up falling off of a high place, which is quite easy. The second, missing the ground, is what holds many of those who attempt to fly back.
7:15 the first one to invent a plane capable of lying without catapults ( or a front wind, it is actualy easyer to take off with the wind facing you ) wased a Brazilian called Santos Dummont.
I gotta say that you sir, are one hell of a trooper. Hats off to you because it kills me a little inside every time I see people claiming that Dummont was first.
Storm of the Fire Variety I literally had to look him up because of this comments section, and then do some internet research on him and the Wrights. As far as I can tell, Dumont invented the landing gear, but not much else (in regards to heavier than air aviation).
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
@@linusretired4183 the actual inventor of the airplane as we know it? I don't blame you though, Americans love to think they were responsible everything, so they ignore actual history.
Just because we don't know every minute thing about airplane history doesn't mean we think we're responsible for everything. When you bash an entire country's population for not knowing a single inventor, it makes you look arrogant. Europeans and Americans are rather equal when it comes to thinking we're the best, so stop acting so special.
He didnt invent the plane in fact he didnt even make the plane or the first to fly one. you need to look up history not us. making yourself look like a dumbass though why would i expect anything else
The first stealth plane was build by germans in WW2: *Horten H IX* (Horton 229) Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 977 km/h Länge: 7,47 m Motortyp: Junkers Jumo 004 Erstflug: 1. März 1944 Hersteller: Gothaer Waggonfabrik Stückzahl: 3 bekannte Prototypen Topspeed: 977 km/h lenght: 7,47 m Motortype: Junkers Jumo 004 First flight: 1. March 1944 Manufacturer: Gothaer Waggonfabrik Quantity: 3 known prototypes It was mostly made out of wood cause of resource shortages. If it came out a few years earlier, the allied forces, especialy the brits would have been in great trouble. I once saw a documenty about the plane and they testet it for its stealth abilities. The brits would have something like a minute to react after it shows up on radar, and the Horton is way to fast and manuverable for the spitfire. Sorry for any bad english, i am from Austria :D
Nixxel "He did" could mean 2 things here: Acknowledgement that Dumont did infact contribute to the cause, or that the maker of the video mentioned him.
Few extra WWI plane facts: Pilots had to where multiple layers of coats and such in order to stay warm. They would fly at heights that are actually illegal to fly at today in America without extra oxygen. Furthermore, the guns being on top of the planes were not always used by a second person. For many planes, the pilot would have to stand up out of his pilot sit, control the plane with his legs, and fire his machine gun in short burst. The clip (actually not called a clip) in the machine guns can be emptied in less than a minute. If he emptied it, they would have to change the clip for second and last one, with process that is A LOT more complicated than it you may imagine. Also, the cockpits were super small. Like child size small.
we have lots of things in our history, the rceation of brasilia, the paraguay war, and the invention of flying, there isn't any official registration of wright's plane flying before 1906,when drummond's plane took-off on france,
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
Dude... there's an entire stage of aviation history missing from this documentary. The GLIDERS. You simply cannot go from the Montgolfier brothers to the Wright brothers and skip Otto Lillenthal. Literally, none of the tech that made it possible to fly a device that was 1) self propelled and 2) heavier than air would be possible without the experiments with gliders.
Could've added something with Leonardo Da Vinci. He accurately covered all the theory about aerodynamics and how they work, also he even tried it to prove it in practice by making a prototype helicopter that would've been piloted similar to the bicycle and due to the lack of force needed he couldn't but he was basically few centuries ahead of the time
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
5:10 Thank goodness you mentioned Gustav Whitehead, I was very nervous you wouldn’t, Connecticut people like me are very proud of him despite the controversy
Thats actually a good one. Native americans and far east siberians would have more similarities, although they would still be vulnerable to european diseases. And once the european powers entered America, and then the Russian Empire expanded all the way across Siberia, they would meet. Alaskian and Canadian demographics and culture would be different, as it would have more russian blood in it. Maybe Alaska would even remain russian, and there could be some disputes with Canada as the russians might wanted to expand even further in. But due to the remotness of said land bridge if it existed, I'm not sure it would change much of history in regards to World War I and II. Until the Cold War that is. Imagine the Cold War but with US and USSR having an actual land connection.
10:31 Perfect for sending mail to the Prussian consulate in Siam. 13:42 Assuming the plane doesn't peel itself apart due to inopportune window design (since we're discussing the DeHavilland Comet...)
The first 50 years after the Wright Brothers flew saw the biggest leaps in aircraft design and performance. However, the last 50 years in aviation have seen huge leaps in technology regarding instrumentation and avionics. Now in 2020 airplanes are talking to each other more than ever. It’s crazy!
It actually took a remarkably short amount of time unless you're going all the way back to the beginning. The Wright Brothers first flew in 1903. By 1969 we landed on the moon. That's 66 years. Of course we're still making advancements to this day so there's no end in sight but if you were going to use any event as the seminal event in aviation, it might as well be the lunar landing.
"Aerodynamic, Sleek, a far cry from the wooden craft just a few decades earlier." But... wooden craft can be aerodynamic and sleek. The Ho-229 was wooden and it was probably the fastest jet-powered craft of WWII era flight.
Also another reason for biplanes being first, is that building techniques to build a long wing that was strong and light necessary for a monoplane did not exist. So instead, two smaller, shorter wings were used.
@@deprogramm Ay man What's the problem? We do have things to show For example, the Brazilian Empire Also, the Brazilian Expeditionary Force, who fighted on Italy during WWII Let's not forget about how much of our music, culture, etc... is appretiated around the world So, um Yeah We are a third world country in a third world America (Latin America) But we have our little-but-bright light that shows our difference with Venezuela, Argentina, Panama, Uruguay, Peru, Mexico, Caribbean, Guiana, etc... Hope you understand my fellow brazilian brothers pride, and my poor grammar comment
@@deprogramm Well... A kinda makes sense Uruguay once was Cisplatine a state But, well Yes, the country itself doesn't change much of the world And this is because it was almost ever as a simple minded country with simple minded people who are most of the time selfish ...yes, myself included But, well, what do you think a "full of history" country should have?
Me watching the video: - Ok, let's watch a video about Santos Dumont. - Eeh, why haven't he apperead at the video yet? - I'm ready to learn about Santos Dumont now! - Santos Dumont? - The video is almost ending... Where's he? - the video ended and... No metion to Santos Dumont??? Well, I liked the video any way ,-,
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
@@flybeep1661 I'm not Brazilian, I'm actually from Portugal (or "not Spain" as you Americans call it :v), so you can't say I want to have "my man" as first. And even if he didn't really invented the plane, he was very important to the history of aviation any way. He was way more important than some guys the video mentioned, so it's kinda weird Dumont wasn't mentioned.
The No. 6 airship flew 17 years after La France. The 14-bis was built 3 years after the first Wright Flyer, and was of a monumentally inferior design. Consider your mind changed.
@@Meirstein 14-Bis, the self propelled vehicle that flew in front of hundreds of people, gave Dumont 100k of French money (francs?). Again, better than a catapulted glider.
All of the Wright Flyers were powered, not gliders. The Wright Flyer III, built a year BEFORE the 14-bis, was able to fly in a 25 mile circle. The 14-bis couldn't fly the length of field in a straight line without crashing multiple times because it had a useless and dead-end control system. Putting wheels on a plane does not mean you invented it.
Aviation is powered flight, The Wright brothers first flight (Airplane, the main Aviation vehicle) was on 1903, while Dumont was too late and his powered Airplane set off in 1906. Wright brothers are the fathers of aviation, not Dumont.
Meirstein he talked about Gustave Whitehead on the video, so why not talk about Santos Dumont, who actually has fotos of his flights and many witnesses?
Australian Lawrence Hargrave, who incidently invented the type of rotary piston engine commonly used by LeRhone, achieved powered flight in a large manned box kite like vehicle before the end of the 19th century.
ah WT....how much I used to play you....almost 300 hours according to steam. Not anymore unfortunately..... Nice video. I wasn't expecting this. Since you mentioned aircraft carriers, I'd thought you'd mention the first all metal monoplane to operate from a carrier (the Mitsubishi A5M) and the Japanese were the first to carry out an aerial attack from an aircraft carrier.
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
Santos Dummond built the first plane that could take off on his own, the 14-bis, in 1906, which he flew in the middle of Paris. I get that the validity of his claims is mixed, but the fact that you didn't even point him out, at least to give him credit for this, is very disappointing.
The Flyer I used a headwind to take off in 1903. But the 1904 Flyer II initially did not use wind or a catapult to takeoff. Just countering the next likely argument by the Dumont supporter here.
Did the video camera exist during Gustave Whiteheads Flight? , i know the still photo existed before video i think cuz the first cameras where huge !!!
So can you please explain that flying box? Its absolutely non-aerodynamic & when a military warhead tried striking it, the missile disappeared & the craft flew off. What the heck happened?
Congratulations, you brought the rage of the Brazilians.
He most certainly did
I'm reading the comments, laughing, and doing some minor trolling! ;)
But, lest be sincere... in all the comments, so far I've only found ONE well researched, compelling, conterargument... the others sound like trolling...
Tribal
@@HaroldoPinheiro-OK Bro, I am brazillian, and I know Santos Dumont didn't invent the airplanes, he was a fucking genius, but he just didn't invent it, simple
Good for him that dislike count is now hidden. We can also never know how many people clicked at "dont recommend channel" after watching it
I REALLY like stories of early WW1 being friendly. Nobody wanted to die, nobody wanted to kill anybody else. The powers at the top essentially forced them to.
Pfff, it's simple.
"Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss"
i like the disc world series
You have to distract yourself at the last moment
ORBIT is throwing yourself at the ground and missing.
Its falling with style
@@astartesfanboy5294 please tell me you're joking
Comment section:
99% Santos Dumont
1% Bad Puns
@@ok-tq7nt He didn't mention fortnite is the best game :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I keep thinking 'why is Vladimir Lenin here?' 'And why is he teaching me about helicopters?'
same
I keep thinking it's Heisenberg.
Tyler sounds very simular to cody and i get them confused
Maybe Tyler looks like Vladdy Lenin
I thought he sounded like Ron Swanson. It's a very affected voice, like he's trying to have a radio voice or something.
Stoners of the past: "Just imagine, one day you could have rows of people being flown across the Atlantic in winged flight craft powered by mechanical engines!"
Regular Person: "Riiiiiiiiiight"
And there'll be peanuts. And comedians will berate those peanuts
And people will fight to get their seats
@@starlight4649 With uncomfortable seats.
9:00 There was an even more "interesting fix" to the problem. Some experimented with partially armoured propellers so that bullets that hit the propeller blades would not destroy them but turn into fun little ricochets that kept the pilot from getting bored.
how to trigger Brazilians:
This vid
Big butts
Corruption
I AM BRAZILIAN.I'm not making an outrage comment talking about Santos Dumont.after all,he didn't FLY exactly.it made a rather "big jump machine",that got a few meters of altitude,flew for a few seconds,and landed.
Injectic oil into muscles
@@animarthur5297 but the real question thus comment asks of you, do you like big butts? (please don't lie, I hear tell these other brothers can't deny)
Talk about us when you froom de USAR learn what is a country and what is a continent
USA*
7:30
Are you sure that’s a joystick? Jimmy seems to be enjoying himself a little too much.
God dammit Jimmy
War. War never change..........
UNTIL WE INTRODUCED PLANE THAT IS. WHOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!
War... War has changed
We use nukes instead of actual combat fighting
What about vertibirds
what about iron? or gunpowder? or the internet?
Changes*
The entire comments section in a nutshell:
Where's the Santos Dummont?
Where's the Santos Dummont?
Where's the Santos Dummont?
Where's the Santos Dummont?
Where's the Santos Dummont?
Who is Santos Dummont?
supernova582 A famous Brazillian aviator. As the comments show, many consider him the true father of aviation.
@@cassianoneto1553 You mean just the loads of Brazilians that have flooded the comments section consider him the true inventor of the airplane.
"many" in brazil
SpacemanApeINC ..... there’s some French, too.
it just clicked to me how nightmarish air raids must have been for someone who was, say, 60 in WWII. You would have distinct memories of a world essentially without flight. Now not only is flight around to stay, but you're literally watching the world you've always known, your home, be blasted away by hulking metal behemoths flying threw the sky in the hundreds. I genuinely can't imagine what that must be like.
I let that sink in for a moment and... Dang... Have a like, Mike; this comment is underrated.
Baby: "W-w-w-w..."
Mother: "He's about to say his first word!"
Baby: "WHERE'S SANTOS DUMMONT?!"
Damn Cody. You could have at least spelled the Italian dude's name on screen.
Leonardo Da Vinci
@@phantomaviator1318 No, the other one.
@@RyuakiraX Ohhhhh, the Pope. Gotcha
Tyler made the vid, not Cody. Tyler isn't as good at making videos as Cody is, Tyler probably doesn't have as much experience yet.
@Metal & Memes he did get alot better
“The airplane flies because it doesn’t have time for the ground”-Orville Wright
"Here you might expect me to jump right into the Wright Brothers, but.."
*jumps into ad instead*
you got me lol
Deciding to go to school to be a pilot has been one of the best decisions of my life, and you did a great job on this video, it lines up with a lot of the stuff I've learned here at an accredited university.
Did you finish?
@@Guerrero3546 Yeah. I now work for the university as a CFII
@@dragonherald Congratulations, I envy you.
"Oh hey, it's an enemy airplane coming to spy on me and my country's military, better wave and be polite!"
@Keegan Young Did you mean "Sonderkommando Elbe"?
Video Title- How We Learned To Fly
0:16- “Humans can’t fly, never could”
Wow quick video, great explanation
To everyone asking about Santos Dumont, he left out tons of important figures in aviation. From French-men to English-me, to Germans, to other Americans, Russians, and pretty much every other well-industrialized nation at the time. To have included them would have made this a documentary, not a RUclips video.
Really no mention of Santos Dummont ?
I know, i was suprised too
As a Brazilian, I'm obviously very proud of his accomplishments and I get kinda sad when his story and contributions are glossed over.
don't worry they teach of his accomplishments in American schools he'll be remembered
He didn't do much. The No. 6 airship was built 17 years after La France, and the 14 bis was not only built 3 years after the Wright Flyer, but was a VASTLY inferior design.
It's the same case as the other german guy, there is simply not enough evidence to give him the credit of being the first.
What if Humanity was a aquatic species?
3rd time I request, and I won't give up.
Watch Spongebob... Duh
Wrong channel, pal
we would've never harnessed fire, need I continue?
If humanity were to be an aquatic species, we would look similar but with different features. Our body would be more streamlined and with fins to maximize speed. Our eyes wouldn't be needed, maybe we would rely on echolocation like dolphins. We would have hair to provide warmth for us. Our skin color would be blueish in nature for camouflage. We wouldn't have become sentient due to no ability to make fire, as it incentivized intelligence. The ocean is a bit too hostile to allow for any sentience to develop, only way is for us to grow two legs and then walk on land. We would remain as instinct driven competitors to dolphins, being hunted by sharks and stuff.
No we would drown because we can only breathe air
No mention to Santos Dumont?
Jesus Christ, Brazilians have nothing in there history to show so they try and pretend they somehow invented flying. What a sad nation.
Vasting Says the guy spamming this response in every comment
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
What about taking off from the ground instead of being... I don't know... thrown by a catapult? ;)
@Marechal Zolotoy Good.
Dude, you don't only deserve, but are owed the gold button at this point. We love your channel in our house! Keep it up!
What about Santos Dummont???
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
What about taking off from the ground instead of being... I don't know... thrown by a catapult? ;)
+Haroldo Pinheiro he didn't use a catapult.
+Fly Beep He's still a very notable figure, more so than Gustave Whitehead. Dumnont also invented the airport.
@@danieldossantos5868 he was actually mocking the ~~virgin~~ Wright Brothers. They used a catapult to 'fly'.
(Bandeira da Bahia =D )
On the first flight at kitty hawk the wright brothers didn’t use a catapult, they got off under their own power. They only used a track because they couldn’t use wheels on the sand.
You didn't mention the Wright brothers big idea that made their success possible. From observing the soaring of seagulls in updrafts, that the birds would make slight changes in the shape of the wing to remain on station. These slight corrective changes were what achieved the stability that had eluded previous heavy than air attempts.
"For a long time, people quite literally strapped wings to their arms and jumped off stuff."
*Uses an image of Otto Lilienthal, perhaps one of the first people to wholly understand the physics of flight and then successfully put them into practice with his gliders (which did in fact work)*
Based Otto
Any time I hear someone say "that won't happen in our lifetime" all I can think is, "we went from the 100 ft first powered flight to the moon in 66 years. We went from the wright brothers to the sr-71 in (approximately) 60. From the wright flyer to the concord in 75." Very little is out of the reach of advancement.
What about Alberto Santos-Dumont? It should've been mentioned.
Time to jump off the Eiffel Tower, let's talk about the history of human's flying. Also this video took a while to make.
KnowledgeHub Do a video on what if Al Gore was president?
Santos Dumont > Wright brothers don't @ me
KnowledgeHub could you do a video about the Zulu war I would appreciate it
Santos dummont better be here
Why not mention the Santos Dumont?
ah.. just over the horizon i can hear hordes of Brazilians screeching about Alberto Santos Dumont.
all those questions about Dummont, but nobody is asking about Otto Lilienthal the first person to make well-documented, repeated, successful flights!
Here’s the thing about flying. It’s fairly, as there are two steps. The first up falling off of a high place, which is quite easy. The second, missing the ground, is what holds many of those who attempt to fly back.
I couldn't imagine how many times you and Cody have been to the Dayton Air Force Museum...
Aside all the BR rage, discussing all the pragmatics between the Wright Brothers and Santos Dumont in terms of milestones would be pretty interesting
7:15 the first one to invent a plane capable of lying without catapults ( or a front wind, it is actualy easyer to take off with the wind facing you ) wased a Brazilian called Santos Dummont.
Nicolas Reinaldet his plane was three years after the wright brothers
The Wright Flyer II, flown in 1904, underwent flights without a headwind or catapult in 1904.
I gotta say that you sir, are one hell of a trooper. Hats off to you because it kills me a little inside every time I see people claiming that Dummont was first.
Storm of the Fire Variety
I literally had to look him up because of this comments section, and then do some internet research on him and the Wrights. As far as I can tell, Dumont invented the landing gear, but not much else (in regards to heavier than air aviation).
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
There are people who actually think Santos Dumont was first in flight… LOLOLOL
and we are right, LOL
No0bs forevah Wright*
Even been Brazilian we have to accept the truth, this guys are just idiots, just, don't give them atention
-Talks about self-propelled planes-
-Doesn’t mention Alberto Santos Dumont-
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-
-EEEEEEEEEE I have no idea who that is
@@linusretired4183 the actual inventor of the airplane as we know it? I don't blame you though, Americans love to think they were responsible everything, so they ignore actual history.
Just because we don't know every minute thing about airplane history doesn't mean we think we're responsible for everything. When you bash an entire country's population for not knowing a single inventor, it makes you look arrogant. Europeans and Americans are rather equal when it comes to thinking we're the best, so stop acting so special.
Pentapolim, O Gigante Místico da Mancha we cant help that were so amazing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He didnt invent the plane in fact he didnt even make the plane or the first to fly one. you need to look up history not us. making yourself look like a dumbass though why would i expect anything else
The first stealth plane was build by germans in WW2:
*Horten H IX* (Horton 229)
Höchstgeschwindigkeit: 977 km/h
Länge: 7,47 m
Motortyp: Junkers Jumo 004
Erstflug: 1. März 1944
Hersteller: Gothaer Waggonfabrik
Stückzahl: 3 bekannte Prototypen
Topspeed: 977 km/h
lenght: 7,47 m
Motortype: Junkers Jumo 004
First flight: 1. March 1944
Manufacturer: Gothaer Waggonfabrik
Quantity: 3 known prototypes
It was mostly made out of wood cause of resource shortages. If it came out a few years earlier, the allied forces, especialy the brits would have been in great trouble. I once saw a documenty about the plane and they testet it for its stealth abilities. The brits would have something like a minute to react after it shows up on radar, and the Horton is way to fast and manuverable for the spitfire.
Sorry for any bad english, i am from Austria :D
I can't believe you didn't mention Santos Dumont in the video. He contributed to aviation just as much as the Wright Brothers, if not more.
He did
@@ACCB710,
Nope, I'm pretty sure he didn't mention Santos Dumont in the video.
Nixxel "He did" could mean 2 things here:
Acknowledgement that Dumont did infact contribute to the cause, or that the maker of the video mentioned him.
No like im saying dummont did help alot hell he created airports sorry for the miscommunication xD
ACCB 1998 This is why I pointed it out
Few extra WWI plane facts:
Pilots had to where multiple layers of coats and such in order to stay warm. They would fly at heights that are actually illegal to fly at today in America without extra oxygen.
Furthermore, the guns being on top of the planes were not always used by a second person. For many planes, the pilot would have to stand up out of his pilot sit, control the plane with his legs, and fire his machine gun in short burst. The clip (actually not called a clip) in the machine guns can be emptied in less than a minute. If he emptied it, they would have to change the clip for second and last one, with process that is A LOT more complicated than it you may imagine.
Also, the cockpits were super small. Like child size small.
no Santos Dumont?
Jesus Christ, Brazilians have nothing in there history to show so they try and pretend they somehow invented flying. What a sad nation.
@@deprogramm hey,why are you and another guy replying every comment about Dummont with copypasta?
we have lots of things in our history, the rceation of brasilia, the paraguay war, and the invention of flying, there isn't any official registration of wright's plane flying before 1906,when drummond's plane took-off on france,
@@southernlapwing2922 The Wright Flyer back in 1903.
im tired of discussing with autistic bald eagles that only learn about their own history, so dont complain,just accept it...
you need more views because you a solid producer
What about Santos Dummond??? Not even mentioned him, really????
Shoo
Jesus Christ, Brazilians have nothing in there history to show so they try and pretend they somehow invented flying. What a sad nation.
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
Just like the video said, the true inventors of flight were the Montgolfier bros.
What about taking off from the ground instead of being... I don't know... thrown by a catapult? ;)
This was really interesting!! Thanks for the video!
Dude... there's an entire stage of aviation history missing from this documentary.
The GLIDERS. You simply cannot go from the Montgolfier brothers to the Wright brothers and skip Otto Lillenthal.
Literally, none of the tech that made it possible to fly a device that was 1) self propelled and 2) heavier than air would be possible without the experiments with gliders.
What's the song at 12:40? I recognize it from Generation Tech and would love to know the name
Could you state the video from the Generation Tech? I wanna let Shazam to do the work
*Muh Santos Dummont*
Could've added something with Leonardo Da Vinci. He accurately covered all the theory about aerodynamics and how they work, also he even tried it to prove it in practice by making a prototype helicopter that would've been piloted similar to the bicycle and due to the lack of force needed he couldn't but he was basically few centuries ahead of the time
im brazilian
where's santos dumont???
Foda-se se tu é brasileiro
Thanks again for bringing back the old art style; subscribed!
Tyler, why did you leave Santos Dumont out? So disappointed.
Fat cuckpitalists,
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
Yeah, fuck the only ideology that has ever worked that allows democracy.
@Fly Beep How in the world did you read all that into me asking for a mention?
Also, self propelled and not sligshot, but hey! I just wanted a mention.
5:10 Thank goodness you mentioned Gustav Whitehead, I was very nervous you wouldn’t, Connecticut people like me are very proud of him despite the controversy
What if alaska and north east asia was still connected
Thats actually a good one. Native americans and far east siberians would have more similarities, although they would still be vulnerable to european diseases. And once the european powers entered America, and then the Russian Empire expanded all the way across Siberia, they would meet. Alaskian and Canadian demographics and culture would be different, as it would have more russian blood in it. Maybe Alaska would even remain russian, and there could be some disputes with Canada as the russians might wanted to expand even further in. But due to the remotness of said land bridge if it existed, I'm not sure it would change much of history in regards to World War I and II. Until the Cold War that is. Imagine the Cold War but with US and USSR having an actual land connection.
10:31 Perfect for sending mail to the Prussian consulate in Siam.
13:42 Assuming the plane doesn't peel itself apart due to inopportune window design (since we're discussing the DeHavilland Comet...)
Imagine the wright brothers reaction to the f 22 raptor
The first 50 years after the Wright Brothers flew saw the biggest leaps in aircraft design and performance.
However, the last 50 years in aviation have seen huge leaps in technology regarding instrumentation and avionics. Now in 2020 airplanes are talking to each other more than ever. It’s crazy!
It actually took a remarkably short amount of time unless you're going all the way back to the beginning. The Wright Brothers first flew in 1903. By 1969 we landed on the moon. That's 66 years. Of course we're still making advancements to this day so there's no end in sight but if you were going to use any event as the seminal event in aviation, it might as well be the lunar landing.
Whats the name of the music starting around 12:00 ?
*Where did you learn to fly?*
I don't know!
Imagine showing this to the wright brothers
I read: "Wow, we learned to fly"
12:04 song?
What happened to the Paraguayan war video?
Its gone? WHY???
12:17 what is the background song?
Where is Santos Dummont???
Guilherme Magalhaes Oh man...Idk how to tell you this but he’s been dead for several years
"Aerodynamic, Sleek, a far cry from the wooden craft just a few decades earlier."
But... wooden craft can be aerodynamic and sleek. The Ho-229 was wooden and it was probably the fastest jet-powered craft of WWII era flight.
Average jerry fan
Also another reason for biplanes being first, is that building techniques to build a long wing that was strong and light necessary for a monoplane did not exist. So instead, two smaller, shorter wings were used.
Wait, where is Santos Dumont??
Jesus Christ, Brazilians have nothing in there history to show so they try and pretend they somehow invented flying. What a sad nation.
Another one ay? ^^
@@deprogramm Ay man
What's the problem?
We do have things to show
For example, the Brazilian Empire
Also, the Brazilian Expeditionary Force, who fighted on Italy during WWII
Let's not forget about how much of our music, culture, etc... is appretiated around the world
So, um
Yeah
We are a third world country in a third world America (Latin America)
But we have our little-but-bright light that shows our difference with Venezuela, Argentina, Panama, Uruguay, Peru, Mexico, Caribbean, Guiana, etc...
Hope you understand my fellow brazilian brothers pride, and my poor grammar comment
GWB skleD come on man. You have the same size as Australia and the population near the US but are as infamous in the world as Uruguay
@@deprogramm Well...
A kinda makes sense
Uruguay once was Cisplatine a state
But, well
Yes, the country itself doesn't change much of the world
And this is because it was almost ever as a simple minded country with simple minded people who are most of the time selfish
...yes, myself included
But, well, what do you think a "full of history" country should have?
at 12:40 you say the bell x1 was the first super sonic plane. but wasn't this actually the avro arrow?
“Santos Dummont?”
“Santos Dummont!”
“SANTOS DUMMONT!!1!1!1!1!1”
At 10:57 actually that aircraft, the A Vlaicu III, was the first metal build aircraft, only its wings were made out of fabric.
Me watching the video:
- Ok, let's watch a video about Santos Dumont.
- Eeh, why haven't he apperead at the video yet?
- I'm ready to learn about Santos Dumont now!
- Santos Dumont?
- The video is almost ending... Where's he?
- the video ended and... No metion to Santos Dumont???
Well, I liked the video any way ,-,
Probably didn't mention him because he didn't actually achieve first powered flight like so many people somehow believe.
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
@@flybeep1661 I'm not Brazilian, I'm actually from Portugal (or "not Spain" as you Americans call it :v), so you can't say I want to have "my man" as first.
And even if he didn't really invented the plane, he was very important to the history of aviation any way. He was way more important than some guys the video mentioned, so it's kinda weird Dumont wasn't mentioned.
Portugal, Europe's bumper.
also the one that established a large colonial empire
until they died
What is the song with the violin(I think) in the background (like at 3:16)
Santos Dumont was the true father or Aviation, change my bloody mind.
The No. 6 airship flew 17 years after La France. The 14-bis was built 3 years after the first Wright Flyer, and was of a monumentally inferior design. Consider your mind changed.
@@Meirstein 14-Bis, the self propelled vehicle that flew in front of hundreds of people, gave Dumont 100k of French money (francs?).
Again, better than a catapulted glider.
All of the Wright Flyers were powered, not gliders. The Wright Flyer III, built a year BEFORE the 14-bis, was able to fly in a 25 mile circle. The 14-bis couldn't fly the length of field in a straight line without crashing multiple times because it had a useless and dead-end control system. Putting wheels on a plane does not mean you invented it.
Aviation is powered flight, The Wright brothers first flight (Airplane, the main Aviation vehicle) was on 1903, while Dumont was too late and his powered Airplane set off in 1906. Wright brothers are the fathers of aviation, not Dumont.
Meirstein he talked about Gustave Whitehead on the video, so why not talk about Santos Dumont, who actually has fotos of his flights and many witnesses?
What about Otto liliental? Why didnt you mention him?
Rocket propulsion is not ideal for planes.
Me-163: am i a joke to you?
Helicopters?
*plays fortunate son*
Bro why is your avatar Vladimir Lenin now
Its been like that for months moron.
Australian Lawrence Hargrave, who incidently invented the type of rotary piston engine commonly used by LeRhone, achieved powered flight in a large manned box kite like vehicle before the end of the 19th century.
ah WT....how much I used to play you....almost 300 hours according to steam.
Not anymore unfortunately.....
Nice video. I wasn't expecting this. Since you mentioned aircraft carriers, I'd thought you'd mention the first all metal monoplane to operate from a carrier (the Mitsubishi A5M) and the Japanese were the first to carry out an aerial attack from an aircraft carrier.
What about Santos Dumont?
Lucas Frigo he came 3 years after the wright brothers
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 Traian Vuia invented the self propelled plane
What's the music at 13:00
a Dude did you find it?
12:03 What song is this? I love it
What about Santos Dumont, my man? This is a serious lack.
Because Santos Dumont was three years too late. The wright brothers were already on to their third design by the time Dumont flew even once.
PITCH, YAW and ROLL. ALL THREE, flying is controlling ALL THREE. Santos Dumont did NOT control ALL THREE. If you argue that to be flying does not mean controlling all three planes of movement than you might as well add other half assed attempts before Dumont. Usually it's the Brazilians only who bring up Dumont and want to tinker with the established norms of what constitutes flying in order to have their man as first.
Love your vids, keep it up!
Santos Dummond built the first plane that could take off on his own, the 14-bis, in 1906, which he flew in the middle of Paris. I get that the validity of his claims is mixed, but the fact that you didn't even point him out, at least to give him credit for this, is very disappointing.
The Wrights built the self-powered Flier I in 1903, three years before Dumont. There were witnesses there too.
The Flyer I used a headwind to take off in 1903. But the 1904 Flyer II initially did not use wind or a catapult to takeoff.
Just countering the next likely argument by the Dumont supporter here.
Actually it was Traian Vuia
jesus christ i guess doing research and being right is worse then being a latino fanboy
@Marechal Zolotoy the true inventor of the plane
Moral of the story.
More war = more progress
No Santos dummont?
I'm brazilian.
Santos Dumont flew AFTER the wright brothers,and...he kinda made a "big jump".
They used to say that if man was meant to fly he'd have wings. But he did fly.
James Kirk
Where’s Santos Dumont?”
Did the video camera exist during Gustave Whiteheads Flight? , i know the still photo existed before video i think cuz the first cameras where huge !!!
We went from airplanes that could barely get airborne to lading on the moon in ~65 years
Your argument is incorrect since rocketry and aviation are both two different technologies, and sciences.
But it's still very impressive though.
12:18 italian jet fighter, what’s the name?
No Santos Dumont?
Music? Specifically the one at 2:50?
Santos Dumont by Santos Dumont
@@atheniansoldier811 basically this comment section
Yep, I didn't even know who he was before reading this comment section
So can you please explain that flying box?
Its absolutely non-aerodynamic & when a military warhead tried striking it, the missile disappeared & the craft flew off.
What the heck happened?
Dave Grohl taught me to fly
Good one.
Pink Floyd taught me to fly
There goes my hero.
But did you make your way back home?
Tom Petty taught me to fly
It's been a long road, getting from there to here.
Awesome video Tyler!