Cobra One Length or Sterling One Length Irons
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Cobra One Length or Sterling One Length Irons. Mark Crossfield and Coach Lockey take on the single length iron challenge with the Cobra One Length irons and the Sterling Single Length irons. See what our on course in match ideas are of the single length push in the golf industry.
Hi everyone, I'm a french clubmaker who's been working 6 years+ with Tom Wishon. I've sold many sets of SL "Sterlings" recently to very different players, from low single digits to beginners. I don't have anything against Cobra, I really do respect any brand trying to improve equipment and make golf easier and funnier. But I just believe this SL "concept" is much better done when, as a clubmaker like me, you only buy the STERLING heads and then you can build a very specific set :
- I will make sure all heads are the same weight (which is NOT possible in today's tolerance by any foundry)
- I will make sure all shafts are the same weight and bend profile
- I will adjust, if necessary, the lie angles
- I will adjust, if the player wants it, the length for some clubs : for example, a 5 iron at 37.5'', then 6 to PW at 37'' then GW and SW at 36'' ; in that case, I will have to adjust the head weights and swingweights accordingly
- and of course a clubmaker has access to ANY shaft and grip available, not just 3 or 5 options ...
So, in a nutshell, the STERLINGs allow the clubmakers to fine tune the set to a specific individual, whereas any OEM concept cannot : it is just an "off the rack" with a few shafts options where head weights, shaft weights, bend profiles, ... are subject to tolerances +/-
I hope this helps because people tend to forget how a club is made.
Hey Mark, I noticed the yellow tru vis ball was much easier to track flying after you hit it. Would using them on more vlogs be a possibility as seeing the ball after you've hit it makes for better viewing. Thanks
Played f7 one length for 6months and the concept bought me. But in reality at 5 ft 6 the short irons are to long and destroyed my short game . I have now traded them in for same model but with standard shafts and my game is back on track. Didn’t realise how heavy they were until I returned to a normal set.
the more I see of the single length irons the more I think they'd help my ball striking 😮 . I want them !!
It should be noted that when you order the Sterling Irons you can also customize the swing weight which is quite clever. A nice extra level of customization.
Love the on course commentary in the video - good natured ribbing. Searching for the lost balls on the third hole was the best.
Mark that new low angle shot for the tee shots is great. Can finally see the flight you guys are hitting without pro tracer
I've been waiting for this video for so long ! thank you !
Love the ball flight view.... almost better than the tracer!
agreed
always fun to see your course videos. I'd love to see a trackman based review, especially on the long irons. Keep up the good fun work, Mark.
Great way to review the clubs guys......looking forward to part 2
What's great is that I enjoy these vids regardless if one or both of you play well or poor 😁👍
The truvis ball rolling on the green looks like an optical illusion...cool!
This is a good start, will wait for part 2
I was very intrigued by this 20 years ago. I think i am going to try it out!!
Entertaining as usual guys! :D Epic up and down from the path as well as the GW bunker shot at the end.
Now that you have played more with them, would you say that the single length irons are more or less beneficial for the overall game? Like, Matt for instance was finding that he liked choking down on them around the greens. So I don't know if that was because it was a "used to chipping with shorter clubs" thing or a "too long for such a short shot to be done with control" thing because the longer something is, the faster it swings through.
Mark with Coach's clubs and Coach with Marks clubs would be a great idea! Including putters I think would be very exciting! Make it happen gents!!
love the 1 length iron off...not keen on truvis balls (have tried them) they seem to make the ball look bigger which really puts me off...i know the ball isnt bigger but it does play visual tricks 👍
The Sterling irons also do same head weight, so total weight is consistent throughout the set. But the Sterling irons definitely emphasize increasing the COR for the long irons, whereas the Cobra Forged One irons focus on headweight more (I suppose because they're more of a players' iron).
The Cobra have different head weights, but the same swing weight. The Sterling heads are all the exact same headweight.
Wondering if one length fits all or would a very tall player have them at 6iron shaft lengths and a short or junior player have say 8 iron shaft lengths?
I'd be keen to try pw-4iron single length but I think I'd always stick with my normal 50,55,60 wedges. Mentally it would be - drivers & woods/"mid irons"/ wedges.
Hey Mark, I noticed the yellow tru vis ball was much easier to track flying after you hit it. Sweet I can see it better Nice Want to see the new F8 one length?
What a brilliant way to review these clubs , #lovinthis 😉🏌⛳️🍻 #singlemylength
Love those shots from the drone
Mark I am a club maker/fitter and I am curious what shafts did Wishon send you for the Sterlings? Also what shafts did Cobra use for their single length irons? The reason I ask is I have found that most of the "average" golfers do better with a lighter weight mid bend point shaft. If they are too heavy they struggle with ball flight. If they have a low bend point it tends to balloon the ball especially in the scoring irons.
So no opinion on the clubs? I did not learn anything.
Do you want us to tell you which one to buy or show you what they do in our hands. If you can’t see the message here I worry for you in the hands of a sales person.
Simple go and test for yourself.
Can a regular set of irons be adjusted to become single length>
James lGreer no, the gapping would be way off.
I think the single length shaft for all your clubs is a great idea, we all struggle with switching up to longer irons it's even hard to find 1 irons now a days imagine have a 1 iron the same length as the easiest and best iron you can hit we all have that one iron in our bag that's just the easiest to hit we tend to go to it for everything and that could be for all my irons ?! Yea sign me up.
And it would make the game easier for new players too a lot easier.
I think the hardest part is getting used to a gap wedge that is 7 iron length. as the boy's were saying in the video. I feel like I would just be losing a lot of the control. You might be able to get used to it though, I'm not sure.
1 iron would not have enough loft to get the ball up at that length. You would need serious swing speed.
Oliver, I play the Sterlings. I find the longer length wedges are easier to play than "normal" short irons. That's just me.
@@SOLDOZER they don’t do a 1 iron. Lowest loft is a 4 which I think is about 21degrees. I have a fairly slow swing speed and have no problem hitting it high
Hey Mark, did you guys notice any difference in ball trajectory between the cobras and sterling? I would imagine the high COR on the sterlings would produce a higher ball flight.
I can't wait to demo the Cobra irons.
this is where it works from "one length" --- driver? FW? hybrids? wedges? I think it would take a lot of getting used to.
The Sterlings are 5-SW. The Cobra are 4-PW.
'm hanging out to try these.
Swing really well with my 7I, wish I could get my long irons as consistent. This may be the key :)
single length me up. Cracking video
Kind of intrigued about them seems like its more of a trust issue than performance they perform well just have to trust hitting a long or short shot with a longer or shorter club pending on distance to standard lengeth
I have the Sterlings. They are awersome. But like you said, there's a mental block. You have to just trust it. Holding a 36.5" club in your hand with a 190 yard shot tells your brain "This is all wrong, the ball will never make it". If you can't learn to trust the clubs, you won't like them. If you learn to trust them, they are money.
check out the golfer with their dog at 18:40 lol multitasking
I would like to try a set with one length in the long irons and normal irons in the short.
Is that pillbox at the start for shotgun starts? /hides
what would happen in regards to custom fitting with these one length clubs? would it just be a matter of finding a shaft you like? obviously adjusting lie angle would defeat the purpose of the clubs design? interesting stuff.
Callum Ferguson You choose the shat that is best suited to you. As far as lie angles, it's the same for all clubs.
yeah that's what i thought it would be, quite restricting compared to normal clubs custom options
It's not really. When I say it's all the same lie angle it's still custom. All the angles are the same in your set, but you can decide what the angle is. If your current 7 iron is 62°, then all your irons are 62°. Bryson is something like 14°upright but you can be 4° down if you want.
Robert Nava i thought about that right after I replied earlier, I get it now, ignore my previous comments then!
What a great idea. Taking your dog for a walk whilst playing golf. #multimytask #incidents.
mark, i heard if you put foam in the slot of the sterling you get rid of the ring sound.
nice video
No end of round review??
Mark/Coach what type of shot would you say shows the biggest advantage of the 1 length. I was thinking that hitting from an uphill lie with the ball above your feet, would be much easier with a shorter length 4 iron than std. P.S. Come on coach use that Gap at the full length, Cobra are saying it's easier from a more upright stance.
My name is Mark and I use the same putter too Mark! Do you find the truvis ball "looks" bigger to you? I do.
Practical club review....on a golf course, next level vlogage gentlemen!
Loving the club review / vlog hybrid, a sort of rinky dinks special! #rinkmylength #singlelengthrink
You guys realy takes your time playing first hole... Going DeChambeau full out? ;)
What was that about the springboks?saturdays game maybe?
Forget the indoor testing vids this is where the rubber meets the road
well hello Mr Mark De Chambeau And Mr Lockey De Chambeau
I think you should still be hitting drivers and using the irons like you normally would so it's a real test of how you would use them while playing a full round
So which one was the winner
Would love to see Lockey use the MP5's for a round and Mark the Apex's! Please do this! Haha
what a bunker shot!
Would like to try this! Surprised at your positive comments though - funk town!
Are *all* of Bryson's clubs, including driver, the same length?
So does he have a different swing for the driver and hybrids/woods?
Why did you not take a drop from the cart path?
a drop would have put him in a funky lie because he would have had to drop on the side of the path away from the hole.
Hi Mark & fren .. i would to say tQ for making this video .. killing 2 single_length clubs with 1 game .. i have a son who might start golf soon & i think for someone(my son) who has no knowledge/experience of different length clubs, introducing golf with single length clubs should be alright i guess, compared to us - what say u?
Off to part_2 ..
I don't understand the compensations used on the lower numbered irons (4, 5, 6, etc), Cobra increasing weight, Sterling increasing COR. One of the concepts of the single length is that a difference of half an inch adds almost nothing in terms of Club head speed (1/122 of the length of the club plus the arm). The loft alone should take care of the distance each club hits. The 1Iron Golf people have been making single length clubs a lot longer than Cobra or Sterling, and they don't need any compensations between clubs. What am I missing?
Tom Donnelly , the issue with the 1 iron clubs is ball flight height. Sure keeping all the clubs the same length and making sure everything else the same is fine. The main problem for single length clubs is ball flight height in the 3,4,5, irons. Making sure the decent angle is appropriate enough to land on the greens without extremely roll out. What Wishon has done is that He figured most people would do well enough playing an 8 iron and to offset the heighth issue in the longer irons he added the COR face. In David Lake's irons you will need some serious speed to get them up in the air or you would be playing stinger shots all day. Tom's way allows slower swing players to play his clubs with out diminishing returns. Hope that helps.
Guys, if you use a 4 and 5 iron as max. distance clubs, why don't you play of the red tee's?
I think being confident in your long irons gives you guys a bit of a mental block when hitting the longer clubs into the green, where as I suck with them so lol
I love the on-course club reviews. Also, it seems like Lockey's zeroing in with his putting. I think we might see some nail biters coming up on the vlogs...
you were on the right side of path and could have taken relief no closer to the hole towards the green, or am I wrong? I do like the sound of the sterlings. coach had no cupface advantage on his shots #stopit
I don't think he could take relief on the right side because it would be closer to the hole. His only option was left side or cart path.
6:10 "what length is that one?" 😂
8:20 Golf: The famous game of "What if?..."
#crikeylikem wasn't expecting that ! Good one for the misses (and for the Mrs), not going to diss em for the mrs (otherwise no pitching practice in the living room), be a fool to dismissem ! New Bumper sticker #singlelengthhandicaperonboard.
Just had to use my 10 second skip on RUclips throughout the whole video. But thank you for the comparison. Much appreciated.
So much fun!
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wood love to win them ore just try them, I think they will work for me
What course is this?
Mark "single-length-iron-man" Parfield :D
any real reason for using the soccer ball pattern ?
Truvis website says that the pattern “helps the brain map out the precise roll and movement of every putt or shot that a player makes.”
landscape4therapy interesting
Do they change the COR on the Sterling? #sarcasm
Oh Mark, where'd your puma gear go now
Be careful with those irons loc I don't want them damaged.😂
now am sorry but that border terrier just must be called...CADDY
Might lead to a revalution
Great vlog guys. Hate you both though as the weather is perfect for it and I can't play due to a bad back. #samelengthmeup
Come on brah don't scratch my new clubs hitting them off the part
Locky hits so many putts out of the toe, noticed it on the Heskyth vlog.
Co brah! #lockeyarmy
Funny Vid, good review
'Good up down that' says Mark
'Good putt' says Lockey aka The leader 😂😂
Why are they playing off the whites? The longest club they have between them is a 7 iron length 4 iron lol
Go Lockey
Coach`s ball position looks to far forward Sort him Mark
11:27 we can see how bad the position is compared to what this clubs would required. That's 100% hooks.
I have never seen someone golfing with their dog
Shawn Graf lol exactly what i was thinking. A bit peculiar isn't it.
At my local course there is dogs everyone, it's a local joke that you can't play on the course unless you have a dog with you because of it
18.35 ...... never seen a dog walking golfer before, well not doing both at the same time!
7 iron me up........or down..........
Mark is clearly in a fog over the loss of two "chrome-vis" balls and does not know what hole he is on. Lol.
Question: why would you switch to one length irons? Control, distance, etc. thanks!
Control, consistency.
what's with the random golfer walking dog as well 😅😅 #VlogBomb
had to start watching all your videos once you started saying
"bruh"
Lockey will score better with no Driver.
Probably true. I tried a round without a driver. I was in the fairway more than with the driver. Lockey would score better if he didn't let mark get in his head as well.
#pickmypants
It makes no sense to not use your normal tee clubs.
Not everyone pulls driver on every par 4 and 5. Especially better players don’t always.
Annoying as feeck!