What we know about the fire in Valencia | DW News
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- Firefighters on Friday battled falling debris and damaged infrastructure as they continued to look for survivors and identify the charred remains of victims. Officials say there is little hope of finding anyone alive inside the building. The blaze began on Thursday evening for as yet unknown reasons on the fourth floor of the 138-unit, 14-story apartment complex and immediately spread, accelerated by high winds.
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Did no one learn ANYTHING from Grenfell?!?! Residential buildings should all be proactively examined and checked for potentially hazardous materials and replaced, or even torn down and rebuild new. People deserve to feel safe in their own homes.
It's called money.. For some people that's all that matters,not lives
Condolences to our neighbour Spain and all that lost loved ones in this horrific tragedy.
Love from 🇵🇹
I think, that in 2019 due to the Grenfell fire, the EU changed the legislation for all the countries... But it didn't apply for the previous buildings
El edificio este era de 2006
To say it would be rare to retrospectively change material requirements is an understatement. It would be nearly impossible, economically and logistically, to expect owners to ensure that buildings are brought up to spec on things like this.
@@eddy66t6 Retrofitting an emergency warning system (EWS) and an internal sprinkler system, and non-combustible awning above emergency exits to protect from falling burning material is much cheaper than replacing all the cladding. Prioritise. Don't make perfect the enemy of the good. Just need enough time for people to escape with their lives, not their TV's.
@@tysonbcn9375 No, la nueva normativa se introdujo en el 2006. El edificio era del 2005 ( es posible que terminaron en el 2006 pero no hicieron ningun cambio con la nueva normativa).
@@socialsocial8350 Gracias, es lo que decían en todos los telediarios.
As usual, legal loopholes to cut costs COST LIVES, someone needs to pay, and not the government
If it was LEGAL at the time, it's NOT a "loophole". Just sayin'. The government is responsible for legislating fire prevention laws and codes. And they can REQUIRE retroactive safety measures if needed.
@@ffjsb Knowing the cladding was flammable, they could have made changes due to common sense. How tragic for the families!
combustible Cladding , plastic windows,no working fire alarms ,no warning ,toxic smoke ,in modern times fires like this should be thing of the past very very sad
Agreed.
No fire alarms is just criminal!
I'm sure they "intended to get around to addressing those issues at some point" 🙄👀
How horrible! Fire is my biggest fear living in an apartment building and why I will never live in a high rise. My heart goes out to the victims and their families.
Interior water sprinklers and non combustible cladding is super important. This fire suggested the interior sprinklers were non existent and cladding had combustible insulation underneath. Thank goodness the rest of the building structure is made from reinforced concrete and not wood.
The fact the authorities have know about this problem for YEARS they should face criminal charges! We had Grenfell in the UK and we still have apartment blocks that are death traps because the government won’t fund the changes required
We still don't know about sprinklers, but the cladding has been confirmed. The fire spread quickly all over the façade and turned the whole complex into a death trap.
the same old story
For those who question about sprinklers, sadly here in Spain there is no mandatory to have them in private buildings. Emergency plans are more focused in evacuation than prevention. The response of Firefighters were also a little late, and they ask people to stay in the houses, but that was a big mistake because of the exterior materials.
Sprinklers in a home? Does that exist anywhere?
Blessings for the souls of those who died and all affected by this fire
Love from the UK. We know how you feel.
I bought a normal house that has full fire security. In case of a fire walk out to safety. Just looking at these horrible buildings makes me feel nervous as I see no route of escape other than luck. We had Grenfell Tower back in 2019 and the dust from that disaster still hasn't settled nearly five years later. Let's hope that this time a government will actually improve people's chances of surviving by tightening building codes such that a building is fit for purpose and not a disaster waiting to happen. Another very sad day.
Grenfell's cladding was from the US.
@@badfairy9554 So what?
Hi@@IbnBahtutanot EU tested.
@@badfairy9554 I live in Great Britain not the EU.
@@IbnBahtuta I hope we don't end up like the US.
Why do we still build buildings that allow fires to spread like this?
money
It's cheaper. Corners get cut all the time. Corruption and money are at the root of most problems.
Energy efficiency. You will have Net Zero whatever it costs.
@@DavidSmith-ze2wi You don't need this type of cladding to have energy efficiency. You did not hear no new buildings use this material in Spain?
We don't. The guy in the video just said it's not used anymore, did you even watch it?
So sad!😢 My favorite city in Spain!
If it had happened in the middle of the night or very early in the morning this would have been a Grenfell fire copy, paste! My heart goes to the families and communities affected.
Well wishes and condolences . God be with them
My sympathy to those made homeless and to those who lost family and frinds to the fire. I hope officials investigate any buildings maade by the builders of of that very flammible apartment building.
Another Grenfell?
sadly yes I think so too.
If memory serves the Grenfell fire also started on the fourth floor as well. And cladding again making the fire far worse. This cladding has caused so many fire deaths. Why hasn't it been banned everywhere already? How mant people have to die for things to change?
Simple: it's energy-efficient. It makes the building more isolated, so summers are fresher and winters are milder, so less energy is needed to heat/cool the apartments.
The problem was, they cut corners with the foam used in-between the cladding metals, and it lit up like a torch.
2 weeks. that's awful 😢
Same happened in Grenfell tower in London UK !!!
Grenfell cladding?
They got that from the US. Cheap.
The cladding in Valencia was made by Arconic, which is the same company that made the safe cladding for Grenfell Tower.
Polyurethane cladding? My gosh. Is that a recycled plastic material?
As a Brit living in Spain as soon as I saw this my mind went back to Grenfell. We live in a system where profit is worth more than lives.
There should have been safe staircases, there must have been a lot wrong with this house.
My heart goes out to all involved and a strange coincidence didn't the grenfell fire in London also start on the 4th floor?
Are there sprinklers throughout the building?
buildings are not supposed to easily catch fire on the outside of the buildings by a material many more times flammable then wood products and burned hotter and faster.
What means the reaction of firefighters and the sensors of gas and smoke detection
How could a fire in one apartment spread to an entire building? Something is wrong about this building’s design.
Raging fire, yet the structure remained sound and standing, it didn't collapse into its own footprint
So? They usually don't when they are made of concrete...unlike Steel.
@thaismatsumoto I did not know that I thought steel was sound too. Can you pass on your source so I can update my knowledge? Thanks in advance.
I would like to know if the law or standard has any "transition period" for projects planned before the publishing, and if there is a possibility to avoid these transistion periods at all, by forcing re-evaluations of projects even if the construction is ongoing?
I'll straight away suggest that a project insurance should be required in order to cover the costs of unforeseen changes to laws, standards or other types of rules that require changes in the project, even in midway construction so that the construction companies or developers or designers don't crumble under these unforeseen costs.
It's remarkable that, only just over half-a-century ago, there was the Joelma fire in São Paulo, where the building's combustible contents were heavily implicated in the disaster. It appears that nowadays the problem is more on the outside of buildings.
So sad for everyone who’s loss loved ones Seanding prays and 😢 love
Started on a balcony of the 7th floor. There are videos that show it
Sending prayers.
Materials that was used to construct this apartment was obviously cheap. The fire was able to move quickly to burn the whole apartment down.
Ffs stop cladding buildings to save money on paint maintenance!
one thing chicago has, VERY strict fire regulations, after the big one 100 years ago.
2 month old baby girl, I can't 😭😢
2 year old and 2 _week_ old siblings. With their parents, inside the bathroom, using humid towels to stay wet.
The mother phoned their relatives to say goodbye. I have a baby as well. This effed me up good.
I guess they must be investigating who lived in the apartment where this all started. The fire spread rapidly, but something happened that caused it.
Sure that definitely warrants investigation, but it was most likely for a common cause such as an electrical fault or an unfinished cigarette. Sadly domestic fires happen from time to time. What is unusual and totally unacceptable is that they were allowed a cladding that spread the flames like a forest fire. The fire should've been contained to one or two flats, not the entire building and the one next door.
DEW
Did the fire originate from BYD on the first floor?
big solar flare on Friday that caused electrical problems...
It’s funny that they blame only how the the construction off the building, but the fire fighters came after 20 min when it’s 5 minutes always, they did not do anything to stop the fight in the beginning till the hole building was on fire, and they tell people to stay inside not to worry.
To be honest the leader of the fire fighters need to be I jail because they fail big time
My sentiment Exactly, cmtippens. Perhaps you’ve seen the couple of YT documentaries made about Grenfell. Watched more of the video, and they mentioned Grenfell- good, i guess. Such unnecessary misery 😢
My friend Britney investigating this
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Clarington again 🥺😭
build in 2008 acoording to 1991 regulations.....
Made in China building materials?
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Lo unico bueno de esta desgracia es ver a ese periodista tan bello y con ese ingles excelente que lo hace explosivo.
How could you be gay in Spain? So many beautiful women.
How could you be so ignorant?
They have beautiful men.
Spain, which has long supported Palestine in the ongoing conflict, has upset Israel with its consistent condemnation.
What an ignorant post. This has NOTHING to do with Israel.
Putin must be held accountable for this horrific fire
Well... we've seen he's capable of anything.
the poor lady that died in the UK@@planestrainsdogsncars4336
Zero regulations. Spain should be very angry at itself
EU regulations.
Whao
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