FIRST TIME WATCHING: The Crimes of Grindlewald...this movie is sooooo DOPE
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The spell grindlewald uses is called protago diabolica
Oh, cool
@@whitenoisereacts it is actually the most powerful spell in Harry Potter lore so powerful only grindlewald has been known to be powerful enough to control it
Jonny Depp was asked to resign from his role as Grindelwald. He won’t be in the other films.
Love the vibe ! Y’all are dope !
I swear when you guys were like who is Nicholas Flamel it reminded me so much of how Harry, Ron, and Hermione are in Philosopher's Stone.
Lmao
"How can I be so stupid!" **Smashes book on the table**
Honestly I really like how when Leta said "I love you" she was looking over at BOTH Newt and Theseus. Meaning she was likely saying it to both. Also Queenie sounding really desperate when she yelled at Jacob. Shes desperate, and probably doesn't know what else to do, which means Grindlewald has really messed with her head.
Really sad
Yeah it was a cool moment!!!
Really?! Harry Hermione and Ron have spent the entire first movie trying to find out who Nicolas Flamel is and you dont remember?! XD
ahahahahaha exactly
Lol my first thought when they couldn’t remember him
Also, he was a real person, a famous alchemist who actually did try and create the Philosopher's stone and gain immortality...obviously, in reality that didn't work.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Or did it? Maybe he’s still alive, just incognito. 😂
@@ailawil89 facts!
There is a theory that Credence is the Obscurus of Ariana (therefore a Dumbledore!) given a body by Flamel and Dumbledore. The channel Super Carlin Brothers did a video about it. The Philosopher's stone turns Silver (and other metals) into Gold: Ariana (means Silver) to Aurelius (Gold).
The Philosophers stone turns any metal into pure gold. Not just silver. I still think, that this movie was quite mishandled. Nothing appears to make sense at all.
I consider myself a big fan of the wizarding world, although I consider the books to be better than the movies, in the case of fantastic beasts, and especially the Sequel, it seems to go against many things that are already established.
I have to say though, although I didn't enjoy the plot as much as I would have liked, I quite enjoyed most scenes not directly pertaining to it.
I love that theory
I prefer their Dumbledore’s Dark twin theory where he is Dumbledore’s obscurus
@@SakuraPixie but Dumbledore was never repressed or unloved as a child? That's the main factor in the creation of an obscurus(?). Maybe Ariana because her magic attacked a couple muggles as a child, but that would make Credence how old? Certainly not a young man?
@@jvdpc7 I believe you can interpret as coming from the Welsh word arian or smth and that means silver and in another language it means most holy. That is what Google told me at least
The fire spell Grindelwald uses is called Protego Diabolica. It's probably the most op spell. Anyone who isn't your enemy is uneffected but someone who is an enemy is incinerated.
cool name 😎
Oh, okay, I just thought the spell was fiend fyre, since it looks so similar when cast.
The most powerful fire conjuration spell is confirmed to be Feindfyre, not protego diabolica
@@SarastistheSerpent Probably because Fiendfyre is damn near uncontrollable unless you are powerful and will even consume the user.
In a more "balanced" view - protego diabolica makes more sense though - you won't die in a loss of power and all your enemies are targeted + seems like he just mixed in Fiendfyre at the end.
@@Krogdalo he didn’t mix feindfyre in at the end. He literally couldn’t have, because he wasn’t there. Grindelwald fled Paris before the flames began to take the shape of animals. The fire did that on its own. So it seems protego diabolica and Feindfyre behave similarly. The grow and transform without a skilled dark wizard controlling them
“Everyone fighting with Grindelwald loves someone from the other side” starting with Grindelwald himself… #grindeldore ❤😂😂
Grindelwald is a lot more dangerous than Voldemort because he's not ruling by fear, he's the most manipulative and convincing person you'd ever know and you'd follow him on your own will without being forced
I think he’s a better villain tbh. At least in the movies
@@whitenoisereacts well yes of course
i’m only living for james’ happy laugh when there’s a good title card
I can’t help it lol
44:54 I love how Grindelwald is conducting the fire here as if it was the film music. This is one of the moments we realise magic is art. Further, I love the fact that they are barely keeping up with the fire at the end, even though Grindelwald has already left. It shows his enormous power.
Well, that happened at Hogwarts in The Deathly Hallows as well.
It's believed that J. Depp has come up with the idea of "musical" picturing of the spell in this one.
Also, his conducting skills aren’t that bad, I’ve seen much worse portrayals of conductors ( or musicians) even in music themed films 😂
When you just finished watching fantastic beasts and you see crimes of grindewald was just uploaded 🤩
It was meant to be :)
Best feeling evah
How is it that no one can spell his name? It's Grindelwald. Not Grindewald of Grindlewald
"Their arrogance. Their power lust. Their barbarity."
All three of these words describe Grindelwald. He believes he is better than everyone else, sought out the most powerful items in the world, and had an infant murdered.
Credence survived because an Obscurial cannot be killed while in their Obscurus state. If you remember in Fantastic Beast and Where To Find Them, there was a scene where a piece of an obscurus flew away. There's also a deleted scene of how Credence survived and I don't know why they cut it off because it will be good in the movie. I remember watching the movie and think it was odd when Credence suddenly alive.
Yeah I agree it was a bit odd, but it’s cool that it at least made sense in world
okay so a little backstory on dumbledore and gridlewalds relationship from the books. grindlewald went to his aunt in godrics hollow and he met Dumbledore and they became really close friends and they had a mindset that the world would be better with wizards above the muggles (like what grindlewald is saying in this movie) and their catchphrase was "for the greater good" (because they thought that like that the world would be better) They thought that the way to do that was to get the deathly hallows. (which is why grindlewald stole the elder wand in the first place, why Dumbledore had the invisibility cloak when james and lily died and why he put on the ring that cursed him-it was the restriction stone and he couldn't resist the temptation). anyway a three way duel happened between grindlewald Dumbledore and aberforth (dumbledores brother) and his sister tried to come and help but she got killed and nobody knows who fired the curse that killed her. after that they stopped being friends and in 1945 they had their iconic duel in which grindlewald was sent to prison and Dumbledore got the elder wand. i hope that was understandable😅
I wish we could see like I don't know... A 2 hours movie about it. It's so interesting.
And I hope so much the 1945' duel will be super epic on screen !!!
" really close friends" 😏
There is a really cool 17 minute fan film about the battle between Albus, Grindelwald, and Aberforth when Ariana gets killed. I have recommended it to the guys a couple times. They have said they will watch it (probably off-screen), but I'd love to see their reaction to it. If anyone else wants to watch it, you can find it on the Broad Strokes RUclips channel. It's called "Dumbledore and Grindelwald - The Greater Good - Crimes of Grindelwald Prequel" I get nothing for promoting the video. I just really like it and think every Harry Potter fan should see it. 🥰
Don’t feel at all bad about sympathizing or liking with Grindelwald. He wasn’t like Voldemort in the sense that he was exceedingly persuasive and didn’t need fear like Voldemort to gather followers because he was able to convince people of his cause. He is meant to represent Hitler, who many don’t realize, but was actually an incredible speaker and exceedingly persuasive, a skill both obviously abuse to do terrible things. You are supposed to “agree” or understand where he’s coming from because that’s what makes him so dangerous, and that’s his key difference from Voldemort. The pen is mightier than the sword.
Yeah, and I think that’s what makes him an amazing villain
Yep exactly. The books say that Grindelwald was not as magically powerful as Dumbledore or Voldemort, but was infinitely more persuasive and likeable.
@@SarastistheSerpent Well in the whole wizarding world he was the only one who put up a fight with him
The ranking goes
1. Dumbledore
2. Voldemort
3. Grindelwald
4. snape
I only put Dumbledore above voldy because he has more experience but voldy has more overall power
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 yes, exactly
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 switch Voldemort and Grindelwald
Johnny Depp was awesome as Grindelwald. All the cool troupes like the one white eye, the improv to wave his hands like in an orchestra during the paris fight and all the great things were his ideas. He is so good and now WB casts someone else to play Grindelwald. Johnny Depp deserved better than this.
One thing from the books that I m still holding on is that someone said that Grindelwald, in his late years as a (spoiler) prisoner, he regretted what he did and in the book he doesn't tell Voldemort that Dumbledore has the elderwand, which is kind of a mini redemption for him. So I just love that he is capable of becoming good-is in theory.
Yeah, Dumbledore mentioned that to Harry when they where at the King’s Cross station inside Harry’s head, that maybe somehow Gellert regretted what he did
Not exactly true. Dumbledore says he hopes that Grindelwald felt remorse and shame for the atrocities he committed. But it is true that Grindelwald refused to tell Voldemort where the Elder Wand was before Voldemort murdered him.
I like to think that Grindelwald noticed (too late) that he loved Dumbledore too
There is a difference between Dumbledore hoping grindelwald had done a u turn and actually changed his ways and views, then grindelwald actually having remorse in reality
So to explain the scene with Leta being killed right after telling Newt that she loves him.
The leading theory here is that Leta sacrificing herself to save the person she loves (Newt) is going to give him some measure of protection against Grindelwald moving forward. The assumption is that Dumbledore will see/learn about this and that's how he'll later learn how to use it to his advantage when the same thing happens years later when Lily sacrifices herself to protect Harry from Voldemort.
That's so interesting I've never thought of that! But I feel we didn't know exactly who she was saying I love you too since they showed both Newt and his brother. They probably did that on purpose.
@@misroilova And to add on to that, I think it’s totally possible she was saying it to both of them!
I think this is a really great theory!
But talking about Lestrange I wonder if there's any possible way that she survived that or that her brother actually didn't die when he was a baby cause if they are both dead and they don't have any other family I don't really get how the ligne of Lestrange could continue. Plus in HP6 during one of Voldemort's memory, during Slughorn's dinner there's a boy named Lestrange at the table who's the same age as Riddle. Knowing that the next movie should take place during the first year at Hogwarts of Voldemort, their should be a boy Lestrange around 10yo. I hope we will have explanations about that in the next movies (knowing that there's rumors saying that Voldemort should be in the next one as a student in his first year at Hogwarts) but for the moment the timeline doesn't feel really respected.
@@c_prive_c5485 I'm sure the implication is that Corvus Lestrange had other relatives (like siblings or cousins) living in the UK and it's from that British line of Lestranges that Rodolphus comes from.
ALSO, HER ME OUT:
Ariana Dumbledore had to suppress her magic...
Obscurus are born when a wizard suppresses their magic...
You see where I'm going? XD
And then, the name Ariana means silver, in Welsh.
The name Aurelius means gold, in Latin.
The Philosopher Stone has the ability to turn any metal into gold.
The theory is that: when Ariana died, Dumbledore managed to take the Obscurial out of her and tried to use the Philosopher Stone to bring her back to life, creating Aurelius by accident. That would explain Credence being a Dumbledore without being born in the family.
For me, this would be a good explanation for this.
That would be awesome!!! That’s why I think we can’t judge
Yes, totally behind this theory ever since I heard it. JK Rowling always puts huge significance into her characters names so this cant be a coincidence. Alchemy is known amongst other things for attempting to create life IRL, so who is to say that in the wizarding world they havent actually managed to use alchemy to create life. And on Dumbledores chocolate frog card it says hes known for his work with noted alchemist Nicholas Flamel. Why else would she bring Nicholas Flamel back into the story if it wasnt relevant. Also she has pretty much confirmed that Ariana Dumbledore was an Obscurial. If this theory isnt true ill be very surprised, i love it though!
Ooo I love this theory. It makes sense as I don’t think he could be a blood relative. Is he old enough for that to be possible?
@@bexc348 Aurelius could be a blood relative, like a cousin or something, but he could never be Albus brother since Albus' dad was in prison and his mother was dead at the time Aurelius was born
@@erikperhs_ this is what I was thinking! I guess he could be a cousin, kind of hope he’s someone else though tbh. I’m sure JK will shock us all with the reveal.
Some hardcore Potterheads considered the movie to be critical because although Rowling wrote the screenplay, the movie messed with the books and the previous films. For example McGonagall, according to the 5th book, became a teacher in the mid 50s and was a child in the 1930s or she was not even born. Or the fact that Dumbledore did not teach Defense against the Dark Arts. He taught Transfiguration.
He cud have taught it for one year cuz of the curse you know. And also, we see him being forced to leave the position so it cud be explained unless it was explicitly stated that he never taught it. But idk how they will make the McGonagall thing make sense.
My theory is that Professor McGonagall used a time turner. Reasons for why Dumbledore and her were do close.
@@aadi55 yes I too thought he taught it first. But with his connection to grimewald he was ask to leave, then came back to teach transfiguration, before becoming Headmaster
@@aadi55 Voldemort was the one that cursed it when he was denied the position of Defense Against The Dark Arts. So, it wouldn’t be cursed then.
There’s no canon confirmation in the books that Dumbledore ever had another brother besides Aberforth. So I’m sure Grindelwald is lying.
Either way, Rowling wrote this movie. They are canon.
@@whitenoisereacts you guys should check out Movieflame's video on why the Crimes of Grindelwald is actually a pretty good movie, despite others saying it isn't.
Yeah, like Rita Skeeter wrote an 800 pages book full of the secrets of the Dumbledore family and although I couldn't read it, Hermione did haha, no mention of another brother.
I can only think Grindelwald is lying/ not brother of Albus but maybe a cousin(?)/ Ariana's obscurus is somehow in Credence.
Anyway, I'm super excited, I just hope it will fit in the canon and timeline. I am not too bothered by McGonagall's appearance in Hogwarts, but still, she wasn't born in that time, I would prefer to stick to all Pottermore infos if they were written in the first place (super happy about them tho) :)
Just because it wasn't mentioned in the books it doesn't mean it's not true. We had no need to know that information during harry's journey so why would it be mentioned anyway. Still a possibility that he really is dumbledore's brother. Perhaps even just a half brother. But i'm sure we'll find out
@@hannahb5411 Yes, all answers in the next movies, can't wait :) These were just my theories btw. Of course nobody knows about Credence's identity for sure, and that's the cool thing about it, in case of suuuch a huge cliffhanger at the end of the movie. They are really making a good job at making us guessing for years :D
I just mentioned Skeeter's book because a Dumbledore family member who has such mysteries, secrets and who was involved with Grindelwald like Credence, would have been a pretty interesting thing for Skeeter and she wouldn't have missed the chance to put Albus in a bad light saying "Oh your Aurelius brother caused such a disaster in New York and then joined Grindelwald..."
But again, this in only my point of view, but that is the good thing about the Wizarding World, so many secrets and yet undiscovered fields that it's such an exciting thing to make theories and such :)
Muggles can't see Hogwarts because Hogwarts is disguised to look like ruins. So when Jacob was looking around at Hogwarts, he can't see the castle just ruins of it XD
I think Grindelwald lied to Credence because he thinks Credence is the only one that can defeat Dumbledore. By telling him he's some long lost brother he gets Credence to go after Dumbledore and destroy him.
But then we also need an explaination for the Phoenix if he isnt genuinely a Dumbledore
@@lollyboyhair1 I feel like since Grindelwald is extremely powerful he could've manipulated that whether by getting a baby phoenix or using magic to fake it.
YES, i think the same. We watch him lie and manipulate everyone through the whole movie, and to me it absolutely looks like he's doing the same with Credence. He's just full of bullshit.
@@misroilova Yeah its definitely a possibility. I just think that its such a big reveal at the end of the mmovie that for it to be a lie would just be a bit of an anti-climax/cop out. Im just hoping for a more interesting explaination! :)
I’ve always thought this also.
The only Dumbledores mentioned in "Harry Potter" were Albus,Aberforth and their baby sister Ariana who died in one of Albus and Gellert`s dark magic experiments hence their falling out,Albus being disowned by his own family and being a virtual pariah within the Ministry of Magic and Albus turning his back on dark magic despite still having feelings for Gellert.(And in the Books, it`s implied that Gellert to some extent despite his age and madness reciprocated those feelings as even when he was being tortured with the Cruciatus Curse by Voldemort in the "Deathly Hallows" Book, he spat at and mocked Voldemort, saying "Despite all our disagreements, you will never be half the wizard Albus Dumbledore was!")
Actually, I think Credence doesn't know that Mr Graves and Grindelwald were the same people. Grindelwald is a whole new person for him.
Such a shame that Depp won't be returning for the sequel. He nailed this role. Loved how he used magic, almost like a conductor.
Mads Mikkelsen is confirmed to be playing Grindelwald in the next movie(s). I definitely believe he's going to be a good replacement for Depp but it's still very bitter that they fired him.
Unfortunate that they dropped Depp. I think Mads will definately be a good fit to. He certainly knows how to play a villian!
I in some ways don't want to continue watching the series because of the character change. Dumbledore from Harry Potter is the only exception because they had to because of the actors death.
@@TooGood4Gamesv1 I want to because I'm eagerly waiting for the inevitable Grindelwald vs Dumbledore final duel
@Because I'm Batman! That is going to be epic for sure, It's just sad not seeing him being portrayed by the original actor. You could really tell he was learning to master his role as Grindelwald in the second movie, in the first I was quite unsure how to feel about him being Grindelwald, he really did earn that role for himself. It's the same as the first Dumbledore, we could tell he would master the books version of Dumbledore well, of course the 2nd one did a fantastic job as well, but they're almost different even though they're meant to be the same person
I agree. They found recordings of Amber, JD's ex, conspiring and being abusive toward him. Even if he was returning the favor, they were quick to dismiss him without sitting out the allegations for a few months Once the recordings were made public, it was fast clearing him of those allegations and she ended up looking like a shady b.
I just want to say that Jk CONFIRMED that Dumbledore was gay and in this movie he did said that he and grindelwald were closer than brothers, I mean just saying
I've researched a lot of theories abt why he can't fight him and all seems referent to their past when grindelwald moved to his aunt house and became Dumbledore, Ariana and aberforth's neighbor (confirmed by jk) so I'm really hoping see more of that on the movies
I mean, even in the Harry Potter movies Dumbledore has many characteristics typically associated with being gay... the way he holds his hands to his sides, his comments about burning the drapes in the common room, his magazine taking in HBP saying he likes knitting patterns, to him staring at that poster in the subway. lol
They are not gonna show them in a relationship/being gay since it would stop some countries from showing it in cinema's. They are probably afraid of what happened with Beauty and the Beast (live action). I hate that.
@@maudjansen8199 It's a shame really.
Everyone is gay, Harry is gay, Ron is gay, hagrid is gay, even the owl is gay everyone is gay
@@John_Ass … says angrily a person whose nickname is Ass… a life has a sense of irony 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️😅
4:18 - Abernathy wasn´t a wandmaker, you're confusing him with Mykew Gregorovitch (the bulgarian wandmaker in deathly hallows). And Grindelwald was imprisoned in his own castle/prison Nurmengard not Azkaban.
I loved Leta Lestranges character.
hopfully she is not dead i mean there is a theory that grindewald transported her to his prison but i dont think we will know until the next movie.
I loved her! Plus Zoe is gorgeous, she really embodies that striking beauty that the Lestrange women have.
It's soo sad that johnny won't be there in the next one.... As Grindelwald.... Don't think anybody can replace him..
Completely agree
No rumor. Albus is gay and he did have a relationship with Grindelwald.
I wasn't sure. A few of you guys had commented that it was still up in the air
@@whitenoisereacts when dumbledore saw the mirror, he saw grindelwald. Remember in the first HP movie? When harry saw the mirror he saw his parents. That mirror shows someone's deepest desire
Not in the air, Rowling literally confirmed Dumbledore was gay in 2007 or something.
I have no reason to believe this, but I dont buy this Aurelius Dumbledore jazz. Anyways, the way Queenie yelled at Jacob? omgsh my heart, I feel so bad for her and the actress did so well! She just wants to be happy and in love and she has absolutely no one helping her :(
I absolutely understand why she would join Grindelwald. She probably feels like this is the only way the U.S. law will change about being able to marry muggles. Definitely helped Grindelwald that she was vulnerable since she was basically alone the entire movie.
I’m with you on not believing that he is Aurelius Dumbledore- I think Grindewald is just using Credence.
You do have reasons for believing it. First of all, The specifics that would involve another Dumbledore brother seem to be fairly restrictive on how he could exist. Practically impossible unless they are retconning something. Also, we have already seen Grindlewald lie outright to manipulate Credence. There isn't any reason that he couldn't make a bird look like a phoenix. Also, why did he want to kill Credence's nurse? She might tell who his REAL parents were.
@@misroilova i just think the whole conflict with Jacob and Queenie is too forced. I mean there are other magical comunties where you can marry muggles...move to another country instead of joining the evil wizard....
Don't forget that once nagini was stuck in snake form voldemort used her as a horcrux and so technically she is stuck and has to serve him because she had a part of voldemort within her. Also she was probably lured to him in the first place because he was the only one she could communicate with at that point as he was the only one that spoke parseltongue. And then he took advantage of her and essentially destroyed her. I do think she has one of the worst fates of all as she started out as good and wanting to help people. Poor Nagini
ONE HOUR??! i need some snacks for this
Lmao there was too much to put in!!
@@whitenoisereacts keep doing it, I need an excuse for snacks 😂
Hot Cheetos??
@@whitenoisereacts the one and only
Oi gata quer tc
I think it’s really cool how they got the same actor who played young Grindelward in Deathly hallows to play the younger grindleward in this when they were looking back at dumbledore and grinelwards past
Two bad they couldn’t do it for old Grindlewald 😂😂
Nicholas Flamel is the one Hermione was talking about in the first HP movie. Legends says he discovered Philosophers stone.
Allow me to explain the Johnny Depp situation. So for the past few years Amber Heard has been accusing Johnny of being abusive while they were married. However, not only has Johnny provided evidence of his innocence, but also that she abused him. Due him losing a trial in the UK (which imo was very corrupt), Warner Brothers fired him from fantastic beasts 3 but are keeping Amber for aquaman 2 despite the public (including me) siding with Johnny. I've lost all interest in the fantastic beasts franchise now unless they bring Johnny back. even if the new guy does a good job, it won't be the same and doesn't excuse WB for firing Johnny. #JusticeForJohnnyDepp
@@Gnossiene369 What are you talking about? The problem was that the judge decided to ignore evidence and side in an unprecedented and biased way. Amber even got caught admitting her BS. The issue we have is that anyone that is accused of something will get ruined even if their name is cleared. He isn't part of the problem, he's trying (and me) to make this not normal. Companies love PR and will boot anyone that even slightly makes them look bad even if they are innocent. People like you who don't stand up for others are the real problem.
@@hans3331000 No the problem is you abuser stans thinking we care what u have to say
"Allow me to lie my way through the comments so you may as well coddle this abuser even tho he won't fuck us since he likes them fresh out of highschool" he got fired cuz he's an addict that can't stop abusing the cast and crew of his films and WB can't afford to keep paying off his victims nor his benders that disrupt the shooting of a blockbuster
i would like to see reacting to Narnia and Divergent if you haven't see them before
Omg yes!! NARNIAAA 🥺🥰
YESS
Or Maze Runner
@@felipenascimentodasilva2554 i second that 👀🙏
@@felipenascimentodasilva2554 I support this one too
I'm pretty sure Credence didn't know that Grindelwald was impersonating the auror he was in contact with that wanted him to find who the obscurus was in the last movie. I think he "died" before the the spell wore off to show it was Grindelwald. So that's probably why he is willing to be with him to find out who he is.
The dumbledore and grindlewald relationship is very interesting. It was confirmed that they had a romantic relationship when they were younger
It was kinda obvious and maybe hinted when Dumbledore said they were more than brothers.
@@fritzmatthew yeah definitely
If we don't have a love scene in the next movie, we'll know they're avoiding the gay theme.
It was confirmed Dumbledore had romantic feelings toward Grindelwald. It was not confirmed that they had a romantic relationship, in fact, Rowling stated that Grindelwald did not share Dumbledore's feelings, but used them to get what he wanted.
@@adventuresinlaurenland Well, what JK said was:
"As happens in any relationship, gay or straight or whatever label we want to put on it, one never knows really what the other person is feeling. You can’t know, you can believe you know. So I’m less interested in the sexual side - though I believe there is a sexual dimension to this relationship - than I am in the sense of the emotions they felt for each other, which ultimately is the most fascinating thing about all human relationships.”
So yeah, maybe Grindelwald used him, but maybe he had a certain feeling for Dumbledore, who knows... They also may have f*cked, as you don't need love to do it 😂
"Has the Ministry ever done anything right in Harry Potter?"
Aside from appointing Hermione Granger as the Minister, nope. None.
Your reaction seeing Jacob is literally me.
1 minute to the movie and I was like... WHERE IS JACOOOOBBBBBBB???
🤣🤣🤣
The scene with the baby in the house is supposed show a difference between Voldemort and Grindelwald. Voldemort himself tries to kill Harry while Grindelwald had someone else do it. The movie shows how Grindelwald wants people to join his cause willingly not based on fear like Voldemort.
Glad someone else pointed that out. You can also tell Grindelwald didn't like it, going by his expression. He's still evil as shit though xD
Grindelwald was the leader and if he authorised it, it's identical to him killing the baby himself, he could easily have told his followers to leave baby alone, why didn't he?!
Grindelwald is actually way worse than voldemort
He is totally two faced.
He doesn't want to 'dirty' his hands directly, but 100% let's his underlings carry out cowardly Murders.
So yes he is despicable and way worse than voldemort
On the last Harry Potter book I think is where they talk about Dumbledore’s backs story
I know that Albus loved Grindelwald. But did grindelwald love him back, or was he just using him? This is a genuine question, someone please answer
I feel like they haven’t rlly confirmed that. I hope it was mutual. It adds SO much more depth to both of them as characters if it was
I always assumed that Albus cared more about Grindlewald than Grindlewald cared about Albus. This is partially because Grindlewald left as soon as Ariana died without cleaning anything up and it seems to be consistent with his movie character. Would not be surprised if Grindlewald manipulated Albus to a certain extent. I think in the books they said Albus tried to ignore the treatment of muggles part of the cause.
I believed Grindelwald did not love Albus the same. Notice his relationship with other wizards. He is manipulative while being tender and effectionate to the male wizards he wants something from them. The way he held Credence as Colin Ferrell's persona then again as himself. He's using them for power as he did a young naive Albus.
Rowling has stated in past interviews (before the FB films) that Grindelwald was a sociopath incapable of love, and that in reality Grindelwald was quite jealous of Dumbledore’s power. In Dumbledore, Grindelwald saw a weapon that could be used to bring the wizarding world to heel.
@@rohinaiqbal7109 Grindelwald didn’t leave after Ariana died. He fled. The books say he was terrified of Dumbledore’s wrath, and was frightened that Dumbledore would kill him. In the books, that’s why Grindelwald never went to Britain and stayed in mainland Europe. He was absolutely terrified that Dumbledore would murder him.
Forget the haters, this is one of my favorite movies in the whole Potterverse
Mine too!
Same i never got the hate, I like fantastic beast more then harry potter tho so thats mabey why
I like this one over the First Fantastic Beasts
same
Same, I loved. Zoe Kravitz is so beautiful to me...I thought she was great as Leta
The part where they say the Obscurial is like a twin always make me think that Credence is probably Dumbledore's sister Obscurial who before she dies separate itself from her. If it comes to this, JK will shut the hell up of a lot of people.
I'd wish they cast Depp back, such a great actor.
Oh my gosh your so right! I kept thinking about that line as I was rewatching this they said something like an obscurial creates it’s obscurus like a dark twin or a companion to help with the pain. And I was like so far all we’ve seen of an obscurus is this swirling black mass which didn’t look like a particularly great companion in my opinion!
So now I’m thinking that he was her dark twin and that Albus must not have ever known about or seen credence/aurelious and he would only ever fully form when Ariana was alone to keep her company!
This would explain why we’ve never heard about Aurelious before!
And then when Ariana died something happened to Aurelious that erased his memories (or maybe he erased them himself because he couldn’t bare the grief) and that would explain why he didn’t know he was a dumbledore!
But then again he somehow was switched with Leta’s brother as a baby on the boat to America so... I’m not sure about that part lol
@@jessw4350 thats an amazing theory cos we alrdy know from first two parts that Ariana had an obscurus and I never thought in this way that Credence could be her obscurial twin!
You can draw a parallel of some scenes from HP and FB! You see, in the beginning, Grindelwald gave Abernathy a tongue, just as Voldemort gave an artificial hand to Peter Petergrew, Grindelwald has that Frenchwoman with him - Vinda Rosier, she has same role in this film as Bellatrix was at HP (one of right hand deputies of dark wizards)! Another link is the surname Rosier, Rosier was one of the earliest Death Eaters of Lord Voldemort! Unlike Voldemort, Grindelwald doesn’t want to exterminate muggles, but he wants to use them for his own benefit! When Credence eventually went through the fire and joined Grindelwald, Grindelwald hugged him much like Voldemort hugged Malfoy! I think Grindelwald wants to get to the possesions of all three deathly hallows...
Grindlewald 100% wants all the hallows I mean he adopted the sign of the deathly hallows as his mark and put it on the wall at Durmstrang
Are you sure he gave Abernathy his tongue back? He doesn't speak again in the entire film.
@@cathyaldridge4550 Look carefully first scene of escape..
@@gosnfrenki Yes, I remember it but he didn't give him back his tongue but a forked tongue. Why is that?
@@cathyaldridge4550 I think its just aestethic... presenting Grindelwald as wizard with malevolent thoughts...
The name Aurelius means gold, and the name Ariana means silver. The sorcerers stone (made by Nicolas Flamel) is “an object capable of turning metal into gold and granting immortality with its elixir of life” (Ariana Dumbledore died tragically and accidentally in a duel that occurred between Albus, Aberforth and Grindelwald) Albus was probably heartbroken and felt immense guilt in the death of his sister so he probably used the sorcerers stone to try and bring her back to life but instead created credence/Aurelius, an obscurus, a “dark twin”. Turning metal (Ariana which means silver) into gold (Aurelius/Credence) with the sorcerers stone.
Wasn't sure if you guys understood that the reason Dumbledore couldn't go against Grindewald was because they were boyfriends. The "unbreakable vow" was because they were in a romantic relationship and didn't want to ever "hurt" each other.
I've always wondered if Grindelwald loved Dumbledor ...cause is it clear that Dumbledore did love him, but did Grindelwald love him back ? Or did he just pretend because he knew how strong Dumbledore was and he just wanted to use him in the search for the deathly hallows? Cause Voldemort was a total psychopath, he had no feelings for other people, would Grindelwald have been the same?
@@Mila.sabag. Grindelwald isn't a psycho so it's very possible that he genuinely loved Dumbledore, it's only that he cared about power and deathly hallows more
@@elize3137 I hope so!!! if not, poor Dumbi!!! getting his hart played 💔❤️
@@Mila.sabag. Voldi was born from Love Potion, he couldn't even love. Grinde was too obsessed with power, but had emotions (he did show remorse in prison after few decades). And about any feelings for good ole Dumbs. Even if not romantic - his feelings were most likely of loving nature. Otherwise Grindenwald would fight Dumbledore way before, to get rid of him.
@@mjm3091 The love potion!! I forgot!! you're right!! I hope so, because the fact that they are different villains (one with feelings and the other without) makes the potter universe much more interesting. Damn I can't wait to see the relationship develop in the movies!! I hope they show it from second 1 !! from the first look!!! (and not in flashback montage mode like snape's memories) And I love the actor for young Grindi (Jamie Campbell Bower)
Anyone else noticed the obsession with the initials A.D. in the Dumbledore family? I mean…..Albus, Aberforth, Ariana and now Aurelius😅
The Movie was amazing I watched it so many times and Johnny Depp is a great actor
the people who attacked Depp for the whole Amber debacle sided with the abuser, Amber, over the victim, who is Depp. Depp got this role during a period where more and more thought that Amber was the victim, so they tore him apart and judged the portrayal of the character negatively bc of it. I think more ppl have woken up now and stopped attacking him.
I think this show just shows that Dumbledore and Grindelwald were boyfriends
No if anything this shows how good Grindelwald is at manipulating people. If anything it shows that Dumbledore held a torch for Grindelwald
I was surprised Dumbledore was gay but I support it and everything
It doesn't really show it enough, unfortunately. Genuinely wish they would really go in with the Rowling canon.
@@stevenperez845 For the better good, was Dumbledores sentence. Grindewald used it all the time, theres torch holding on both sides.
That's pretty obvious from reading Deathly Hallows. They were pretty clearly in love and split over ethical differences.
I think Bellatrix married into the Lestrange family; she was born into the Black family. So, she would be an in-law of sorts of any other Lestrange mentioned, right? Can't wait to continue the Fantastic Beasts journey with y'all; greetings from New Orleans!!
40:44 “ok queenie i’m a little pissed at you” hahahaha
Ariana died in a three way duel between Albus and Abeforth Dumbledore and Grindlewald and one of their spells hit her and killed her. So Grindlewald knew about the siblings except perhaps Aurelius because we're not even sure if Albus or Abeforth really knew about Aurelius knew about him.
43:55 I think that spell is so powerful that it can be only cast with the Elder Wand.
And it can sense "your eternal allegiance", no tricks.
You guy's reaction to Grindelwald telling Credence he is a Dumbledore was priceless 😅
I feel so sorry for Queenie, she is so broken it hurts to watch 🥺😢
I can't wait for the next movie to come out so we can find out if Grindelwald was telling the truth or not.
Hopefully the movies will progressively get darker as they go just like HP .
A few things they changed for the movie that only slightly annoy me are that Dumbledore was supposed to be the Transfiguration teacher, not Defense Against the Dark Arts. Also, McGonagall isn't supposed to he born until the 1930's, but they have her already teaching in flashbacks to the 1910's.
Both very minor gripes over all. Only someone who read the books would notice them.
No, Dumbledore first taught Defence and after the Ministry forbade him to teach it, Headmaster Dippet let him teach Transfiguration. I mean, he's Dumbledore, he could teach any subject.
@@elize3137 That sounds like a retcon Rowling created after this movie, but maybe I'm wrong. My mastery is in Star Wars lore, not Harry Potter. But as far as explanations of inconsistency goes, it works for me. So that annoyance is put to rest.
But here is another one: Credence being Dumbledore's brother. Both Dumbledore's parents were dead long before Credence was born. I have seen some people say that "brother" is used loosely here, and could mean something closer to cousin or kinsman, but I just wish they worded it better in the movie.
@@FreakDaMIghet maybe Grindelwald is lying...I hope so
Really enjoying your reactions they are so fun and genuine! Can’t wait to see more of your reactions to other movies and series, this was awesome ❤️
Thanks so much!!! We have great things coming!!
Our problem with this movie is quite simple: the best part about the Harry Potter world, from a technical point of view, was that it had almost NO plot-holes. Even things that seemed weird, JK Rowling found a way to explain later, so everything felt very real.
But then, in this movie, she completely ignored MANY important things just for the sake of fan service. For example, McGonagall was in this movie, which is weird, considering she was born 20 or 30 years AFTER that scene. Also, Albus Dumbledore NEVER taught Defense Against The Dark Arts, but they decided to put him there anyway. Another thing is Credence being a Dumbledore, which was also impossible because, when he was born, Dumbledore's father was already in prison and his mother was dead. And we also see people apparating in Hogwarts, even though it's impossible, as well as Newt using Accio in a living creature, which is also impossible.
Another thing that I hated in this movie is how many plot lines are happening at the same time. From the middle to the end it gets SO confusing that until today I have to think really hard to understand it, and all of that happened for nothing because they still didn't discover who Credence was. We also didn't have a reason to care about Leta, so I spent the whole movie simply not caring and then she died and I was like "oh, ok then".
And lastly, there's something that kinda bothers me, but it's not about this movie specifically, but the whole series: there's no reason why Newt is the main character. He was known worldly for being a magizoologist, there's nothing in history about any involvement in the fight against Grindelwald. And out of so many powerful wizards, it doesn't make sense that Dumbledore chose him for this task. There's also no reason at all why this is called "Fantastic Beasts", considering it's not about the beasts anymore, and now they keep making scenes with magical creatures to make it seems like the title still fits, when it clearly doesn't lol
THAT'S IT! You're 100% right! That's why we all hated this movie so much
Well when u put it that way...all I heard was some of the history didn’t line up, and I didn’t think that was the biggest problem, but that is frustrating is she doesn’t seem to be following the rules of her own universe.
Actually “accio” was used on living creatures in the 7th book too. It’s never confirmed that Dumbledore never taught DADA, so the movie doesn’t contradict canon in any way. And as for McGonagall her birth date was never confirmed. The fact that she wasn’t born at this time yet is an assumption that fans made that is only true if you interpret McGonagall’s words in a specific way, but the canon material leaves open the possibility for other interpretations. And lastly, regarding Credence we don’t even know the full truth yet so being angry that it doesn’t make sense canon-wise is absurd. There are multiple possible explanations for the discrepancy: Grindelwald lying; Credence being a Dumbledore but not Albus’ border (for example the cousin, since we know of an aunt of Dumbledore, and we see a woman with the baby on the ship); Credence being an entity created from Ariana’s Obscurus (Ariana, silver, turned into Aurelius, gold...and look at it, the Philosopher’s Stone is able to “turn” any metal into gold, and Albus in desperation could have asked Flamel to use the Stone on his sister). So of 4 plot-holes that you mentioned, not a single one is a true plot-hole.
As someone already said it’s never says in the book that he didn’t teach DADA. All we know is that when the chamber is secrets was first opened Dumbledore was teaching Transfiguration which I believe is because he got banned from teaching DADA.
@@etain05.44 Well, JK Rowling herself said that accio *can't* be used in living things, as well as the Book of Spells, that specifically says it's only for inanimate objects. Either way, JK Rowling contradicted herself, so it is a plot hole.
I really do enjoy the Grindelwald that they’ve created for the big screen and I like that you can really see the inspiration that Tom Riddle must have taken from him in order to become the leader he wanted to be.
Grindlewald is nothing like Voldemort lol if it was Voldemort he would've killed the child himself but as you can see Grindelwald didn't kill the child he couldn't even watch it which is why he left the room plus Grindelwald actually has a valid reason for his fight Voldemort didn't he just didn't want to die.
No Oh he just let another person kill the child so oh that makes him not evil. Just because a person is a smooth talker do not mean that his goal is evil. Grindelwald and Voldermort are both killers, one in a direct way and the other hides it behind a retoric strategi. The same way right wing extreme parties in Europe are using Muslims as scapegoats so the right wing extreme can hide their true agenda and sadly people buy it.
@@erikalulea3608 I never said he wasn't evil because he is but he's nothing like voldemort is what I'm saying yes grindlewald is evil but not voldemort level im saying that they're not the same
@@erikalulea3608 I think they meant that Grindelwald is not as tough and cruel and cold-blooded as Voldemort.
@@erikperhs_ yeah that's what I meant
Silver tounge means he is very good in speaking/persuading other people. That's why they took his tongue so that he can't talk or persuade guards or other people. Unfortunately not sure how he was able to gather the aurors around him to be with his side. This movie is more like a filler so that we can take a whole picture of the other movies to come. The same way with HP Chamber of Secrets where they introduce Voldy so we can take a picture of who he was.
I'm so glad you guys enjoyed this! I love this film, and it's nice to have other people who enjoy it too. I love its complexity and shooting style as well. I enjoy that it plays and messes with cannon though I know that's what upsets a lot of people. But I also think that it's just part of a series and the loopholes will likely work themselves out as the series goes on. I'm normally not a fan David Yates as a director but this movie redeems him for me. I think this style of story telling suits him better than the later Harry Potter films. Thanks for your enthusiastic reaction guys!
I think this movie is so underrated. It's a good movie.
Great reaction!! I’m glad you guys enjoyed the movie!! I really loved it when I saw it in theaters and I still do. I think that some of the criticisms are valid, however I think that it’s important to remember that we have three movies left. Some of the plot holes might be explained later on. Specifically the credence being a Dumbledore one because I think it’s very probable that Grindelwald is lying. I also really loved how complicated this movie was because It allowed me to find new things on rewatches. I do think this movie will get better once the next ones come out. I do think that the movie is more confusing if you haven’t read the books because there are just small things that the original series of movies left out that is very important. Overall I really liked the Movie!
there's a channel called Super Carlin Brothers, they did a video about the theory that credence is the obscurus of Ariana, and dumbledore and flamel used the philosopher's stone to give it a body. Ariana means silver and Aurelius means gold, philosopher's stone can turn any metal into gold. If the theory is correct, then yes, he is technically a dumbledore then, and grindelwald is telling the truth.
Yeah Super Carlin Brothers are great!! I’ve seen all there theories and I think any of them could be true!
Yeah, I don't get why people are complaining about unexplained details when it's not the end of the series. Riddle's diary didn't make sense either until the sixth book for example...
the one thing Dumbledore won't share...his past with grindelwald...its intriguing...but i have a theory i know that that's about.
Nicholas Flammel was an old friend of Dumbledore and the man who created the Philosophers Stone...he was mostly mentioned in the first book. he died after he and dumbledore agreed to destroy the stone at the end of the first book (which was keeping Nicholas alive).
Grindelwald used world war II and weapons of war to make wizards fear non magic people...that way it would be easier for them to just say "ok let's kill them all" it was clever and effective.
Love your reactions guys! Regarding Credence being a Dumbledore, I have 3 different theories:
1. Grindelwald lied about Credence being Dumbledore's brother in order to manipulate him
2. Rowling decided to fudge the timeline a bit - maybe she decided this particular plot point made for a better movie and decided to run with it despite it contradicting her previous works
3. Rowling made a mistake and misremembered the timeline or something - it happens all the time in movies and tv shows, like the Weeping Angels in Doctor Who. The second episode they were in it was established that Weeping Angels can't be photographed or the picture angel will become a real Angel, and that bad things happen when you look one in the eye, but in the first episode they were in, the main character took photos and looked them in the eye with no consequences.
The blue fire you see in the movie is not a variant of fiendfyre, it is a variant of Protego the shield charm. It’s incantation is Protego Diabolica, it is the most powerful variant of Protego and the most powerful fire spell.
Best movie of the two in my opinion
So exciting
Completely agree
I honestly like this movie better than the first one. The only thing I don’t want to be true is Creedence being Dumbledore (but in HP they said he has only one brother and had one sister so I think Grindelwald just lie to him somehow just to use him). But that opening scene is still the best one in all the HP/FB movies.
when it first came out i was a bit displease. but after the second time i watched, i love it.
Grindelwald was playing chess this entire movie and everything fell into place because he’s a SEER he foresaw everything. All he had to do was get Credence to discover that he’s not actually Corvus Lestrange and the rest was easy once he got Credence all alone to himself. I believe he thinks he is Aurelius Dumbledore but he might actually be someone else related to the Gaunts.
Dumbledoor looked into the mirror of Erised which shows you your deepest desire, and it was the object he made with Grindlewald, and Grindlewald himself. They were friends years ago before Grindlewald went on his take over humanity/expose wizardry thing. I think the Object was a blood pact that they would never go against each other, so he literally cannot go after him. But I also think he doesn't want to considering they were friends. (And according to theory, he had fallen in love with him at some point and didn't want to hurt him.)
A lot of people miss that the auror that killed one of the civilians in the crowd was also one of the ones that joined Grindlewald in the circle after the crowd left. He was a plant to convince the crowd that the aurors were the bad guys.
Besides the issues with Dumbledore and Credence, the other problem with the chronology in the movie is McGonagall. According to the original history JK Rowling released online, McGonagall wasn't even born at the time of this movie and didn't start teaching at Hogwarts until around the middle of the century. And she got the McGonagall name from her husband who came from a muggle family so the McGonagall in this movie can't be an ancestor either.
Yay 🥳🥳 This is fun!!! Harry Potter world here I come!
I love how much y’all love this series cause I feel like when it comes to reviews it was like a 50/50 split within the fan base
Grindelwald is more or less a sociopath compared to Voldemort’s psychopathic personality Grindelwald walked away from killing the baby in 7:30 while Voldemort would just kill the thing right then and there
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I love this movie so much, I love seeing more of the universe and everything to do with it, and I loved your guy’s reactions. My main issues with this movie however is the timeline inconsistency, specifically with characters ages and appearances
Dumbledore was born in the early 1880s, which would make him in his late 40s in this movie. That fits his appearance quite well and I’m fine with it, HOWEVER, in the Tom Riddle flashback in the second hp movie, which was sometime around 1943-1945 (Dumbledore would have been in his 60s), it was very obvious that he had been growing out a beard and long hair for a LONG time, at least 30 year, which doesn’t fit with the 18 year age gap between these moments. This honestly could’ve been easily remedied by giving him longer hair and a longer beard to signal even a start to grow it out, and I’m not TOO upset about it.
I AM however more upset about McGonagall. Long story short: McGonagall wasn’t even alive in 1927. Infact, she wouldn’t be born for another 10 years (take a few). Now, I’ll be completely honest: I don’t have this movie memorized, so it could be possible that they never said her first name, and meant it to be her mother or something, and at the very least they may be able to play it off as such. But I feel like I remember them saying her name, idk. Either way that one makes me a bit upset, just because it doesn’t fit her age in the slightest lol.
Ok, that’s my movie rant / info dump done. Loved the reaction!
You guys are helping me with my stress!!! Thanks so much for uploading
Part 3 is gonna be so exciting!!!!!!
The Dumbledore brother in Deathly Hollows was Aberforth. :)
Grindelwald is a comparison to Hitler. A great speaker who thinks his "race" has more value than others.
Nah he is like Stalin. In Hitlers case you could have people sworn loyalty to the government, and the Nazi party.
And if they had ANY Jewish blood they were still rounded up and sent to camps.
In grindelwald's, case as long as you conform to his ideology, you were safe.
Voldemort hated anyone with human connections just like Hitler and the jews
So glad you posted this today (I have a cold and I'm not supposed to get out of bed)
Well...enjoy! And hopefully you get better :(
@@whitenoisereacts I certainly hope I do
Everytime I get the chills when queenie shouted walk with me!
One thing g that really annoys me is that Mcgonogall appears in that flash back, she wasn't even born yet! Her parents probably weren't even born yet!
I stumbled for the first time on ur youtube channel on the fantastic beasts video and then this is the 2nd video of urs I saw. I was so much waiting for ur reaction on realizing Nagini was an Indonesian woman and then Credence being Aurelius Dumbledore..and your reaction didn't disappoint me at all. Although the climax did through me off with him being Dumbledore as but I have a theory behind that as well as to how he could be the unknown brother to everyone. Cos the HP books never mentioned the particulars about THe Battle of Dumbledore and Gellert Grindelwald.
I know Josh who played young Newt in the flashbacks. We have both performed in shows on our home island Jersey, Channel Island. We even had a special premiere for this movie where he came with young Leta.
I don't remember if it was said or noticed during the reactiong or no, but Dumbledore and Grindewald used to be a couple, JKR confirmed it!
They needed Queenie to read Credences mind to manipulate him further. Also, a really big deal and I don’t know if someone’s already mentioned it but the mirror Dumbledores looking into is the mirror of Erised. He sees Grindelwald and the relationship they used to have. The thing he most desires is him - not a pair of socks (which is what he told Harry he saw).
I really loved this sequel but I do think it’s left a lot of questions that need answers. Not just credences real identity but also concern about Naginis ending because she gets beheaded.
I wonder if when Dumbledore looked into the mirror of erised during the sorcerer's stone he saw something different? Or did he still see him and Grindelwald?
Loved it. I personally really like this movie a bit better than the previous one! It reminds me a lot of J.K.‘s mystery novels she’s written since. Very twisty, lots of family secrets, etc.
Also I can’t wait to watch Ninetails wrapped in a blanket watching Lord of the Rings with you next to him all hyped!
Fantastic Grindlewalds and Where to Crime Them :)
I think this might be the most positive review of this film - I just remember being really disappointed but hey if you guys liked it :) haha
I could be wrong about the timeline but this is before Bealitrix I believe at least a couple of generations before and Bealitrix was a black nee lestrange she married into the lestrange family one of the twin brothers and is a part of a very distant part of their family... corvous was the direct line to Leta's side of the family tree
I heard about the hate for this series of movies when they came out but me personally I truly enjoyed watching them and learning more about the mystical magical world that Jk rowling created and I had fallen in love with and at first I thought it was weird when Mcgongal appeared in the movie younger when the timelines didn't add up at all but I still like the movies even with the inconsistnacies which I hope will make more sense in the next movies to come out
The reason that Dumbledoor wouldn't move against grindalwald is because of a blood pact basically that they made while they were boys that was basically they would never make a move against eachother no matter what it's similar to the pact that Snape made with Narccissa Malfoy in the case that Draco couldn't complete his mission.....
1) I’m pretty sure White Noise Reactions HAS already seen most of the things they react to; it’s in his knowing smirks and giggles and how he steers conversations when “hypothesizing” stuff. If they have seen it then it’d be better to either not steer conversation or just say they’ve seen it already, but want to watch it again.
2) Dumbledore’s Grindelwald’s ex boyfriend. They both were power hungry in their youth and made an unbreakable vow that they’d never fight each other. After Dumbledore’s sister died he stopped working with Grindelwald and tried to be a bit of a better person. It’s HIS sister’s obscurial that is possessing Credence; that’s why Fox the phoenix reacts to him/her. He’s lying to Credence & the sister to get it angry at Dumbledore and make him a target. This way he can get Dumbledore killed but not by his own hands. Grindelwald can read minds and has a “silver tongue” so is able to bewitch others just by speaking; no hand gestures nor wand necessary. People also have theories about Queenie possibly being related to Snape because of her mind reading powers. That is a very rare ability much like being a parcel-tongue. Snap has the ability as does Voldemort, but technically Voldemort is either already born or about to be born so he got nothing from Queenie; it’d have to be Snape if either of them.
3) Rudolphus Lestrange is the one that married Bellatrix
Because Nagini becomes a snake forever, Voldermort being a parcelmouth was able to talk to her and probably built up a relationship of trust.
About the inconsistencies, they are very minor. But the critics response was relatively bad because of so much info packed into the movie which led to confusion. Personally I loved this movie and how they are setting up characters. Also one thing you might've missed, after Leta's final words "I love you", the camera panned to both Newt and Theseus.
I wouldn't call having Minerva teaching before she was even born can be called "minor". It doesn't affect the plot nor the movie, but it's a huge mistake for the universe. The fact that's totally a nostalgia hit without any rellevance makes it even worse since it was unnecesary.
@@Acepunydefoc the worst part is that they didn't need that AT ALL. She could simply not be there