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Revamp the old zones, make them relevant again, outposts in Northrend are under construction for 15 years lol, I hate the fact that they just let the old stuff rot. I also want the Garrison feature expanded, give us the ability to move our garrisons to any of an array of choices of location.
Dude, Garrison's feature was one of the worst things they did in Warlords of Draenor. Back then, most people hated because it was very lonely and the missions based on our time in the real world took a lot of time.
@@filipezanon4408 Take the Garrison system but turn it into guild housing instead and have a variety of zones to choose from. Make them function more like order halls but for guilds.
@@ClarkethNothing he listed here is a big ask. It could all be done as the launch of an expansion. With scaling tech you could have level 10s and 70s leveling in the same revamped zones
I dont think Sylvanas will return, but maybe a vision of her in the past during the undead heritage armor. It too early for her to return. Cleaning the maw will take a while.
i hope they rebuild everything! all of it, every town, every city. redo ALL of the old armour sets to be 3d models! imagine how great the game would be if 80% of it wasnt still stuck in 2004/20012
yeah but what would be the point, 95% of the playerbase never leaves the main city anymore and just loads back & forth into instanced content. Old Azeroth is completely dead (+northrend, outland, draenor, pandaland etc) & heavily feels it thanks to sharding & warmode.
@@semiramisubw4864 ugh yeah, SL butchered a few ones. I'll never get over how KT and Sylvanas were on the same team without even a mention as to why they'd work with each other.
The problem with the Scarlets claiming that they have a legit heir to the throne is that it would mean that they have Calia's daughter in their possession. I don't think I need to tell you how BADLY Calia, or any mother, will react to someone holding their child hostage.
@@WanderingWendigo Im getting literal happy tears from all the mentions of Nathaniel, my grumpy man brought me into wow in BFA and will always have a place in my heart
Yeah, Sylvanas manages to do what millions of people couldn't do in the Maw, within just maybe a year or so. She should be away for more than one expansion, two or three expansions later she can return, making her absence be properly felt. Otherwise all that was done in Shadowlands be worthless and in vain
Time moves differently in the maw and Shadowlands so she could've been there for many many years but I do agree, expansion-wise she should be gone at least 2 expansion at least
I hope they bring Nathanos back soon and reunite him with the dark lady so we can have a king and queen again… Now that she’s retrieved some of her “humanity” I think it would be cool for the end of her redemption arch
just on the note of lordaeron/undead, it IS pretty wild to think the undead cant be paladins yet. many of them used to be in life, many NPC undead ARE paladins or at the very least paladin coded. i feel like an undead paladin character would be almost by design an interesting character just due to the dichotomy. and last thing, i didnt even consider any of this until i read a comment about undead paladins like a week ago, and ive been playing since very late wrath. tiny brain
I honestly would love to see them use the skin set of the black and purple themed buildings to rebuild Lordaeron - similar to the Brill revamp look - if they rebuild Lordaeron. :)
I mean....the Dreadlords had made a habit of making the Scarlet Crusade their playthings, first Balnazzar then Mal'Ganis then Balnazzar again with the Risen. Wouldn't surprise me if Lord Banehollow or Hel'nurath would've done the same
Not only that, but if you really look at Revendreth - How they punish sin, use the light for torture, and so on - You have to wonder how much of that really came from Denathrius and his pet Na'aru - Even down to the name, Scarlet Crusade, lining up pretty well with Ven'thyr thematics after the fact.
Read my mind. The only competent ones in the desolate council are Belmont, Faranell and Velonara. They’ve been with us since the start and proven their affinity for the Forsaken, while Lilian was practically inexistent in the life of the Forsaken… Calia can go jump of a cliff, I’d rather have Helcular lead the forsaken
As exciting as this is, I would really like to see Darnassus return and Gilneas become usable/relevant to the Alliance. I am not about everything being centered in Stormwind, especially when there's supposedly sharding anyway.
It would be great to see morep layers populating other cities and those cities becoming more relevant. A factions city should be populated by a lot of players from that race/faction.
I'm really leery on the Nathrazime reappearing now of all times. We have a new Dread Lord running the burning Legion and right after Galakron's essences was taken. I've been thinking a lot about the Nathrazime recently, and I honestly think they are in cahoots with the void. Think about it, it was Sargaras's discovery of the void and his interrogation of the Nathrazime that sowed the fear of an entire universe being corrupted by the all devouring infinite void, and their void lords. All of which the Nathrazime planted, in shadowlands we found an 8-10 page in game book that disclosed the Nathrazimes thoughts on the panthon and how easily they feel they could manipulate them. I don't think we've ever seen a void lord, because the Nathrazime lied to Sargaras. The void didn't have their all devouring all consuming power.... until the final events of 10.1.5 when we watched Galakron's essesnce get syphoned and then drowns themselves in a circle of stars. (the void). I think 10.3 will bring us our first true void lord in which the Nathrazime spoke of when setting Sargaras up. It needed to be created, and reborn, what better way to dispose of the pantheon than with this fearsome power from the past. The void plays with variant time lines, and some variants make it into our timeline. Heads up 10.3 were in for a fun one.
Scourge isn't defeated they just don't have a Lich king controlling them. Last i heard there were pocket factions forming with more powerful Lichs trying to lead and take control
I want to see her again!! The return of Sylvanas Loyalists would be iconic. Blizzard did Loyalists dirty. They promised us it would matter. That they wouldnt add the player choice if it didnt have true meaning.
Sylvanas should only come back if they scrap everything that happened in Shadowlands and just say it was a distracting dream from the Old Ones. It’s such a garbage lore expansion.
Our queen Sylvanas will be finally back!!! ❤❤❤ I literally cry Sylvanas my queen, my love!! Sylvanas did nothing wrong!! ❤❤❤ Sylvanas ❤❤❤ welcome back ny queen ❤❤
Just a quick reminder: Sylvanas is in the Maw, but a vision of her will likely be a part of the Forsaken heritage quest, as well as likely some manner of Scarlet Crusade involvement given how close the Crusade's connection with the Undead is. Personally, I'm tired of all Scarlets being evil people with no redeeming qualities or deserters. Can't we just have some normal people who want to rebuild Lordaeron who don't just become yet more nameless members of the now forgotten Argent Crusade? Please?
Hopefully they rope in the Ebon Blade DKs into the storytelling. I never understood after the fall of the LK why they didn't align themselves with that faction. The Alliance largely doesn't accept the undead, with the exception of Derek Proudmoore by his sister, ijs
It was a plague specifically targeting the human population. But yeah, the necromancers of the scourge should have been going after more than just the Amani crypts in Ghostlands.
@@kyleellis1825 The plague is universal, I remember the Horde getting hit during the Wrath with the plague. Just saying that all those second war bodies should've been risen.
@@jameschristophercirujano6650 It's not universal. The wrath plague was worked on for years to kill everything. The Warcraft 3 plague was humans specifcally and Dwarves are stated in WC3 to be mostly immune to it. Worgen are flat out immune to the plague of undeath. Orcs, Trolls, Ogres, Dwarves, High Elves, etc. Are all highly immune to the plague of undeath (until the wrathgate plague)
@@jameschristophercirujano6650 It's a different plague. The Apothecary Society spends Vanilla-Wrathgate working on it. We as players have like 15 quests in Vanilla getting better ingredients for the new plague in Wrath. The dead can still be manually raised by the Necromancers. And in Ghostlands we see them doing it in the Amani catacombs. So I do agree the Scourge should have gone to internment camps/battlefields from WC2. Go to ogre mounds/troll tombs and raise the bodies.
Yes Please! Revamp the world already! It has been years there is no reason things should'nt be reworked already. Stormgarde we know is coming back I want to also so Gilneas.
i believe they will still use and mainly live in the sewers, they are undead, most don't like themselves. the darkness makes it harder to see themselves. i can see them using the top part and rebuilding it mainly for council n such. but yea, i pray calia doesn't lead. if anything she could be the head priest for their cathedral. but someone else should lead. would be nice to see the SC come back but will suck to have the undead color be red should stay purple
I'd kinda wish Sylvanas had died in the last expansion, because her returning (especially if she becomes a part of the leadership of the forsaken again, so they can rebuild after the shitshow that was the Shadowland/end of bfa storyline) is one of the few things that would make me return to the game. :/ Since nothing in Dragonflight has sounded exciting from the outside.
Do you think because technically we went to an "Alternate" Dranor during previous expansion , we technically didnt stop OUR "time line" burning crusade? and if so does that then imply that we might get to see our actual sargarus? or Archimond?
The twisting nether exists outside of timelines. There is just one sargeras. Just like how we killed the only archimonde that exists. These are Blizzard's words. If you feel like this makes no sense and creates plot holes, then that's blizzard for ya.
@@Thunterise And Blizzard told us Chronicles was hard fact for a year before quickly retconning that. They said we had 5 old gods before saying it was only 4 and then going back to 5 now. Don't believe anything Blizzard says and look at what's been presented.
According to Blizz, the Burning Crusade is singular entity beyond timelines. I guess when you become a demon, you and every version of you across time merge into one being. It's why we didn't see multiple Kil'jaeden but we did see two Velens.
i hope they just dont remove undead from the lore like dont kill them off, idc if they lose their home thats good story telling (so is the idea of burning the nelf tree) it makes you hurt for them, if anything id like to see lorderan become a neutral zone and the undead a neutral race
Well Sylvanas return is really Inevitable it's a sooner or later, but it's coming the real thing is what's going on with everything else in the world in Azeroth and the coming Light and Void Invasion.
I'm kind of surprised the Syndicate and Scarlet Crusde never teemed up. Alterac only had some ogres to deal with. The Crusade could have taken a whole kingdom pretty easy. Or the Arathi Highlands since Stromgarde didn't even have an alliance owned farm.
@@Cashinn_Outt1754 The Crusade (without Dreadlord influence) are really just human supremicists. If the Syndicate joined the crusade (they are all humans), the Crusade should be fine with it. And the dreadlord in charge of the crusade would probably see the benefit of having the Syndicate worknig for him in addition to the crusade.
You can notice this is now a Microsoft product. They put their spin on everything and ignore the original spirit of the software. That's why they often fail. Won't be surprised if this is a failure as well. Keeping an open eye on good private servers with custom modifications. For me at least, CoA seems very interesting.
Sylvanas has always been my favorite character since vanilla. I really disliked what they did to her in and leading up to the shadowlands storyline. I want her back but i want her fixed. What she did to the ight elves went against her character. They tried to explain it away in the sylvanas book but they were just trying to explain away yhe original bad writing in the game.
Realistically, what are they going to be besides a nuisance? We beat them at their peak in Vanilla and by Cata have taken basically every base they had. The Crusade in Strathholme are turned into dead puppets by a dreadlord. The Death Knights slaughtered the last Scarlet bastion in the EK. The Onslaught is shattered in the North by us and the Scourge. They come back in Cata/MoP only to get curbstomped into dust again. I'd be more upset if the Crusade was actually a serious threat. They really only have the potential to bother a couple zones. Maybe they can go to Gilneas and try taking that instead? Give the Worgen something to do?
The Forsaken turning the ruins of Lordaeron city into their new capitol is an idea that I'm all for, because when they retook the city they were only shown dealing with the surface levels of the plague, not the one down in the catacombs and sewers. Afterwards, it's the surface we see populated by Forsaken, not the Undercity below. So I think it'd make perfect sense if it's the upstairs department that gets settled, as the below is likely still plagued. I hope it'll be a long time before we see Sylvanas again, she's like magneto in the X-men films: Overused within the franchise, and constantly bopping from antagonist to uneasy ally no one can afford to trust, but the plot forces us to. Whenever Sylvanas appears, the story becomes tiresome. No to her.
I would love to see Lordaeron rebuilt and become a neutral city for the Undead and Humans. Personally, I still want to see the factions slowly disband or some of the races become neutral during the current peace between the Alliance and Horde.
@@kallazjopatsu6846 We had no Alliance in the first game and the Horde was just the orcish horde, not the orc Horde. It wasn't until WC2 the Horde and Alliance mattered.
The forsaken chose to live in the sewers for 2 decades. I don't care if they can't smell things themselves, the Forsaken smelled like poo this whole time.
@@amaliafilip2886 I hope not. Like seiously, the only reason the moat in undercity was green, was so people didn't think about the fact it was 100+ years of Lorderon's sewage. Anyone who lived in the Undercity will NEVER get that smell out of the bones.
i hope sylvanas don't come back, the renegades never had an identity, it was just sylvanas, never the renegades, enough, i'd rather she never come back
Why would Blizzard update the demon models and not also plan to use the assets in something. Besides, more than just the Warlock pets have been updated. So you wrong boi.
I dont think she will return so soon its propaply due to rhe heritage armor, but lets hope that the story writing if she returns is better then in shadowlands... then it destroid her character ...😢
Maybe the forsaken finally realise, that they are nothing more than rotting biological mass... . They do not longer serve any purpose, their existance is intrinsically meaningless. But this is a good thing, because with this lack of purpose, they might as well do what they love the most - like fishing for example.
My favourite part of the game is gather crafting resources. I sell them super cheap on the AH because I need bag space for the next trip. I love destabilizing markets when I drop 50x20 of anything for like 5 gold. Resellers mess with the market for days after that.
@@099NitroUndead isn't a race mate, it's a curse. If you know anything about Calia you know that she wanted to unite undead and human Lordaeronians and she was very close to achieve it
@@Pigraider268 we didn't ask for Calia. She is an alliance character who only exists to undermine the Forsaken. Stay in Stormwind and leave us alone. It's our land now. You have no rights.
It's not mentioned in this video, but Night Elf heritage quest is coming in the same patch, and the whole patch is about the new world tree that tyrande planted, so it's quite silly to victimize yourselves and imply alliance gets less stuff than the horde, when at most, it's just that people who make videos don't find it interesting enough to mention.
I’m a Loyalist and I would love to see her return! I’ve been missing the heck out of not seeing her in Dragonflight. I’m so stoked that the Forsaken are getting Heritage Armor even tho I love the Darkshore Warfront armor a lot lol. The Forsaken do deserve to get answers from Sylvanas who practically banded them together and gave them free will, and a home, after the Lich King’s control over them waned, and move forward into a new era. But we loyalists want to see her in some form as we got a Loyalist option during BfA otherwise they would’ve have done so! 🔮💀🦇🏹🩶💜💚
I played wow for a month recently after quitting early bfa and i have to say it was one of the most hollow experiences I've ever had. I couldn't care any less for the npcs yammering on the screen, it was so...boring. I liked the various mechanics the game outright copied from better games but even then I hit that grind wall where they want to stretch that subscription...Even with bob cotic and his trogs gone, this game is freaking soulless.
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Revamp the old zones, make them relevant again, outposts in Northrend are under construction for 15 years lol, I hate the fact that they just let the old stuff rot. I also want the Garrison feature expanded, give us the ability to move our garrisons to any of an array of choices of location.
You cant ask for everything to get picked into one whole expansion 😂😂 let stuff come by time
No garrison Please god no garrisons
Dude, Garrison's feature was one of the worst things they did in Warlords of Draenor. Back then, most people hated because it was very lonely and the missions based on our time in the real world took a lot of time.
@@filipezanon4408 Take the Garrison system but turn it into guild housing instead and have a variety of zones to choose from. Make them function more like order halls but for guilds.
@@ClarkethNothing he listed here is a big ask. It could all be done as the launch of an expansion. With scaling tech you could have level 10s and 70s leveling in the same revamped zones
I dont think Sylvanas will return, but maybe a vision of her in the past during the undead heritage armor. It too early for her to return. Cleaning the maw will take a while.
i hope they rebuild everything! all of it, every town, every city. redo ALL of the old armour sets to be 3d models! imagine how great the game would be if 80% of it wasnt still stuck in 2004/20012
Then you have good news, because it seems that they are.
yeah but what would be the point, 95% of the playerbase never leaves the main city anymore and just loads back & forth into instanced content. Old Azeroth is completely dead (+northrend, outland, draenor, pandaland etc) & heavily feels it thanks to sharding & warmode.
yea Maybe if it'd be a DLC for 80$ for those that wants it , otherwise it will never happen would be illogical time and money spent wise.
Yea the game is definitely stuck in 20012
Ffs be realistic about this.
I think Arthas should have given her a quick death in Warcraft 3
yep. But anyways, she was a good written character until kinda a few years sadly. Butchered a good character once again.
What a drag show this turned out to be eh?
@@semiramisubw4864 ugh yeah, SL butchered a few ones. I'll never get over how KT and Sylvanas were on the same team without even a mention as to why they'd work with each other.
I think the Sylvanas data is for the Heritage armor quest not really returning
I hope shedoesn't return for at least 2 expansions. And if she does after that, they write her character better !
I agree
The problem with the Scarlets claiming that they have a legit heir to the throne is that it would mean that they have Calia's daughter in their possession. I don't think I need to tell you how BADLY Calia, or any mother, will react to someone holding their child hostage.
To be fair, we know nothing about what happened to Calia's child or if she even survived.
Can we please fucking move on from Sylvanas already and NOT bring her back?
Tell that to the fanbase of sylvanas.
SHE'S OUR QUEEN. ALL HAIL SYLVANAS
Hail the dark lady and hail Nathanos
@@WanderingWendigo Im getting literal happy tears from all the mentions of Nathaniel, my grumpy man brought me into wow in BFA and will always have a place in my heart
Yeah, Sylvanas manages to do what millions of people couldn't do in the Maw, within just maybe a year or so.
She should be away for more than one expansion, two or three expansions later she can return, making her absence be properly felt.
Otherwise all that was done in Shadowlands be worthless and in vain
Time moves differently in the maw and Shadowlands so she could've been there for many many years but I do agree, expansion-wise she should be gone at least 2 expansion at least
I hope they bring Nathanos back soon and reunite him with the dark lady so we can have a king and queen again… Now that she’s retrieved some of her “humanity” I think it would be cool for the end of her redemption arch
just on the note of lordaeron/undead, it IS pretty wild to think the undead cant be paladins yet. many of them used to be in life, many NPC undead ARE paladins or at the very least paladin coded. i feel like an undead paladin character would be almost by design an interesting character just due to the dichotomy. and last thing, i didnt even consider any of this until i read a comment about undead paladins like a week ago, and ive been playing since very late wrath. tiny brain
Somehow... Sylvanas returned!
She finish those dailies already.
Hehe. Nice reference.
Unfortunately
You make it sounds like that is supposed to be impossible.
I honestly would love to see them use the skin set of the black and purple themed buildings to rebuild Lordaeron - similar to the Brill revamp look - if they rebuild Lordaeron. :)
I mean....the Dreadlords had made a habit of making the Scarlet Crusade their playthings, first Balnazzar then Mal'Ganis then Balnazzar again with the Risen.
Wouldn't surprise me if Lord Banehollow or Hel'nurath would've done the same
Not only that, but if you really look at Revendreth - How they punish sin, use the light for torture, and so on - You have to wonder how much of that really came from Denathrius and his pet Na'aru - Even down to the name, Scarlet Crusade, lining up pretty well with Ven'thyr thematics after the fact.
I actually think it’s a good idea to have Sylvanas back some of us don’t want anything to do with plain boring alliance lover Calia
Read my mind. The only competent ones in the desolate council are Belmont, Faranell and Velonara. They’ve been with us since the start and proven their affinity for the Forsaken, while Lilian was practically inexistent in the life of the Forsaken… Calia can go jump of a cliff, I’d rather have Helcular lead the forsaken
As exciting as this is, I would really like to see Darnassus return and Gilneas become usable/relevant to the Alliance. I am not about everything being centered in Stormwind, especially when there's supposedly sharding anyway.
It would be great to see morep layers populating other cities and those cities becoming more relevant. A factions city should be populated by a lot of players from that race/faction.
Besides this being a really cool update about rebuiling Lordaeron. I wonder if Sylvanas will find Nathanos in the Maw?
Omg yes, finally someone mentioned my grumpy man
I hope she finds him.
I'm really leery on the Nathrazime reappearing now of all times. We have a new Dread Lord running the burning Legion and right after Galakron's essences was taken. I've been thinking a lot about the Nathrazime recently, and I honestly think they are in cahoots with the void. Think about it, it was Sargaras's discovery of the void and his interrogation of the Nathrazime that sowed the fear of an entire universe being corrupted by the all devouring infinite void, and their void lords. All of which the Nathrazime planted, in shadowlands we found an 8-10 page in game book that disclosed the Nathrazimes thoughts on the panthon and how easily they feel they could manipulate them. I don't think we've ever seen a void lord, because the Nathrazime lied to Sargaras. The void didn't have their all devouring all consuming power.... until the final events of 10.1.5 when we watched Galakron's essesnce get syphoned and then drowns themselves in a circle of stars. (the void). I think 10.3 will bring us our first true void lord in which the Nathrazime spoke of when setting Sargaras up. It needed to be created, and reborn, what better way to dispose of the pantheon than with this fearsome power from the past. The void plays with variant time lines, and some variants make it into our timeline. Heads up 10.3 were in for a fun one.
Scourge isn't defeated they just don't have a Lich king controlling them. Last i heard there were pocket factions forming with more powerful Lichs trying to lead and take control
If or when Sylvanas returns, maybe she'll head there if not back to Lordaeron.
I saw the "SYLVANAS IS BACK" and immediately clicked
As a loyalist to the Queen i will welcome her with open arms, serving as her champion once again.
I want to see her again!! The return of Sylvanas Loyalists would be iconic. Blizzard did Loyalists dirty. They promised us it would matter. That they wouldnt add the player choice if it didnt have true meaning.
Sylvanas should only come back if they scrap everything that happened in Shadowlands and just say it was a distracting dream from the Old Ones. It’s such a garbage lore expansion.
not just in shadowlands the entire BFA and the books
Our queen Sylvanas will be finally back!!! ❤❤❤
I literally cry Sylvanas my queen, my love!! Sylvanas did nothing wrong!! ❤❤❤
Sylvanas ❤❤❤ welcome back ny queen ❤❤
Just a quick reminder: Sylvanas is in the Maw, but a vision of her will likely be a part of the Forsaken heritage quest, as well as likely some manner of Scarlet Crusade involvement given how close the Crusade's connection with the Undead is. Personally, I'm tired of all Scarlets being evil people with no redeeming qualities or deserters. Can't we just have some normal people who want to rebuild Lordaeron who don't just become yet more nameless members of the now forgotten Argent Crusade? Please?
Hopefully they rope in the Ebon Blade DKs into the storytelling. I never understood after the fall of the LK why they didn't align themselves with that faction. The Alliance largely doesn't accept the undead, with the exception of Derek Proudmoore by his sister, ijs
Which sounds better?
The Forsaken as "Uberrons" or "Lordborns".
or
The Blood Elves and High Elves are united, thus the "Sun Elves" are born?
they're the High Elves if the split never happened.
Think about it, why isnt there a ton of Undead Orcs, Ogres and Trolls in Lordaeron, the second war was massive. Would've been a great plot point.
It was a plague specifically targeting the human population. But yeah, the necromancers of the scourge should have been going after more than just the Amani crypts in Ghostlands.
@@kyleellis1825 The plague is universal, I remember the Horde getting hit during the Wrath with the plague. Just saying that all those second war bodies should've been risen.
@@jameschristophercirujano6650 It's not universal. The wrath plague was worked on for years to kill everything.
The Warcraft 3 plague was humans specifcally and Dwarves are stated in WC3 to be mostly immune to it.
Worgen are flat out immune to the plague of undeath.
Orcs, Trolls, Ogres, Dwarves, High Elves, etc. Are all highly immune to the plague of undeath (until the wrathgate plague)
@@kyleellis1825 The Wrathgate is blight though.
@@jameschristophercirujano6650 It's a different plague. The Apothecary Society spends Vanilla-Wrathgate working on it. We as players have like 15 quests in Vanilla getting better ingredients for the new plague in Wrath.
The dead can still be manually raised by the Necromancers. And in Ghostlands we see them doing it in the Amani catacombs. So I do agree the Scourge should have gone to internment camps/battlefields from WC2. Go to ogre mounds/troll tombs and raise the bodies.
Yes Please! Revamp the world already! It has been years there is no reason things should'nt be reworked already. Stormgarde we know is coming back I want to also so Gilneas.
I wouldn’t mind Sylvanas coming back but not yet.
i believe they will still use and mainly live in the sewers, they are undead, most don't like themselves. the darkness makes it harder to see themselves. i can see them using the top part and rebuilding it mainly for council n such. but yea, i pray calia doesn't lead. if anything she could be the head priest for their cathedral. but someone else should lead. would be nice to see the SC come back but will suck to have the undead color be red should stay purple
Couldn’t have summed this better, it was a pleasure to read :D
I'd kinda wish Sylvanas had died in the last expansion, because her returning (especially if she becomes a part of the leadership of the forsaken again, so they can rebuild after the shitshow that was the Shadowland/end of bfa storyline) is one of the few things that would make me return to the game. :/ Since nothing in Dragonflight has sounded exciting from the outside.
Im calling it now, the "Old enemy" is the scarlet crusade
As a Forsaken main, I would love to stomp them out and be done with them.
Just let sylvanas DIe. the fact she hasnt been killed yet is the biggest and worst plot armor i have seen in a good while
If Sylvanas would ever return to Azeroth, it won't be in a minipatch, let alone not being in the center of it.
I have my doubts myself, but it might be a memory of sorts of her leading the forsaken from then up to now.
Do you think because technically we went to an "Alternate" Dranor during previous expansion , we technically didnt stop OUR "time line" burning crusade? and if so does that then imply that we might get to see our actual sargarus? or Archimond?
The twisting nether exists outside of timelines. There is just one sargeras. Just like how we killed the only archimonde that exists. These are Blizzard's words.
If you feel like this makes no sense and creates plot holes, then that's blizzard for ya.
We did see both of our Sargarus and Archimonde.
@@Thunterise They've pretty much retconned this now though with the bronze dragon timey winey stuff.
@@Thunterise And Blizzard told us Chronicles was hard fact for a year before quickly retconning that. They said we had 5 old gods before saying it was only 4 and then going back to 5 now.
Don't believe anything Blizzard says and look at what's been presented.
According to Blizz, the Burning Crusade is singular entity beyond timelines. I guess when you become a demon, you and every version of you across time merge into one being. It's why we didn't see multiple Kil'jaeden but we did see two Velens.
“No one saw this coming….” I’ve literally been saying this since calia came back.
I guess Sylvanas will appear as a message or something for her loyalists, maybe something on the side to get that extra tabard.
Back in Cataclysm, Sylvanas raise a bunch of Crusaders as undeath, they could be the new Forsaken people.
i hope they just dont remove undead from the lore like dont kill them off, idc if they lose their home thats good story telling (so is the idea of burning the nelf tree) it makes you hurt for them, if anything id like to see lorderan become a neutral zone and the undead a neutral race
if sylvanas returns i will immediately and permanently unsub
Well Sylvanas return is really Inevitable it's a sooner or later, but it's coming the real thing is what's going on with everything else in the world in Azeroth and the coming Light and Void Invasion.
They have a day/night cycle. If they added a season cycle that would be interesting.
Water, water, water!! Jeeeez, so much water. As usually.
how about switcheroo, Scarlet Crusade sneaks into Gilneas, thus preventing return of Gilneans back
I'm kind of surprised the Syndicate and Scarlet Crusde never teemed up. Alterac only had some ogres to deal with. The Crusade could have taken a whole kingdom pretty easy. Or the Arathi Highlands since Stromgarde didn't even have an alliance owned farm.
@@kyleellis1825the Syndicate are outside the Scarlet ranks and thus are tainted - they’d be killed on sight.
@@Cashinn_Outt1754 The Crusade (without Dreadlord influence) are really just human supremicists. If the Syndicate joined the crusade (they are all humans), the Crusade should be fine with it.
And the dreadlord in charge of the crusade would probably see the benefit of having the Syndicate worknig for him in addition to the crusade.
You can notice this is now a Microsoft product.
They put their spin on everything and ignore the original spirit of the software. That's why they often fail. Won't be surprised if this is a failure as well.
Keeping an open eye on good private servers with custom modifications. For me at least, CoA seems very interesting.
Rebuild it back into Alliance glory. Leave Sylvanus in the maw.
yay........
Sylvanas has always been my favorite character since vanilla. I really disliked what they did to her in and leading up to the shadowlands storyline. I want her back but i want her fixed. What she did to the ight elves went against her character. They tried to explain it away in the sylvanas book but they were just trying to explain away yhe original bad writing in the game.
really dont want her to return so soon was hoping she'd be gone for atleast 2 xpacs or so
scarlet crusade is full of dreadlord :D every chief of their may be one :p
damn, i dont wanna see the SC comeback JUST to get their asses beat
Realistically, what are they going to be besides a nuisance? We beat them at their peak in Vanilla and by Cata have taken basically every base they had. The Crusade in Strathholme are turned into dead puppets by a dreadlord. The Death Knights slaughtered the last Scarlet bastion in the EK. The Onslaught is shattered in the North by us and the Scourge.
They come back in Cata/MoP only to get curbstomped into dust again. I'd be more upset if the Crusade was actually a serious threat. They really only have the potential to bother a couple zones.
Maybe they can go to Gilneas and try taking that instead? Give the Worgen something to do?
The Forsaken turning the ruins of Lordaeron city into their new capitol is an idea that I'm all for, because when they retook the city they were only shown dealing with the surface levels of the plague, not the one down in the catacombs and sewers. Afterwards, it's the surface we see populated by Forsaken, not the Undercity below. So I think it'd make perfect sense if it's the upstairs department that gets settled, as the below is likely still plagued.
I hope it'll be a long time before we see Sylvanas again, she's like magneto in the X-men films: Overused within the franchise, and constantly bopping from antagonist to uneasy ally no one can afford to trust, but the plot forces us to. Whenever Sylvanas appears, the story becomes tiresome. No to her.
I want the Undead wiped out! Then reclaim Gilneas and Lorderon for the living as it should be.
Maybe they should rent some flying Ziggurats from Primus in Maldraxxus. After all Maldraxxus is a more home sweet home for them. 😂
@@amaliafilip2886 Ah yes maldraxxus. Brings me to the very next thing on my list that need nuking.
I want Forsaken main base to be Icecrown with Bolvar. What best way to claim victory over your enemy?
Sylvanas is my queen.
Her feet are royalty.
@@liviubostan7229cringiest cringe
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@@paullecourtois8856 it's a joke...
@@liviubostan7229 still cringe
whoop whoop doron posted
How are supossed to be the reaction of the Nelf if she returns?
Nobody asked them, nobody cares
I would love to see Lordaeron rebuilt and become a neutral city for the Undead and Humans. Personally, I still want to see the factions slowly disband or some of the races become neutral during the current peace between the Alliance and Horde.
Permamentally dismantling the factions would kill the lore for me.
@@kallazjopatsu6846 We had no Alliance in the first game and the Horde was just the orcish horde, not the orc Horde.
It wasn't until WC2 the Horde and Alliance mattered.
Somehow... the Scarlet Crusade returned!
(Shame that they went from nuanced villains to the story's one-dimensional punching bags).
Blizzard can't stop recycling lore lol
The forsaken chose to live in the sewers for 2 decades. I don't care if they can't smell things themselves, the Forsaken smelled like poo this whole time.
I don't think Calia will want to live in the sewers 😂 based on her favorite color for clothes.
@@amaliafilip2886 I hope not. Like seiously, the only reason the moat in undercity was green, was so people didn't think about the fact it was 100+ years of Lorderon's sewage.
Anyone who lived in the Undercity will NEVER get that smell out of the bones.
Is it just me or are the Scarlet Crusaders like Cockroaches in WoW?
Basically almost impossible to get rid of?
i hope sylvanas don't come back, the renegades never had an identity, it was just sylvanas, never the renegades, enough, i'd rather she never come back
the new models of legion mobs is becasue of the new warlock pet models. not because of legion is back wtf
If you saw the previous video, it was mentioned that there were 2 dreadlords leaked along with their followers, for example Hel'nurathian felguard.
Why would Blizzard update the demon models and not also plan to use the assets in something. Besides, more than just the Warlock pets have been updated.
So you wrong boi.
@@kyleellis1825 i am not an u know that. stop white knight!
@@charli4815 Huh? Not an?
How am I white knighting? I am so confused.
@@kyleellis1825 you are confused? oh i believe you so much :D
I dont think she will return so soon its propaply due to rhe heritage armor, but lets hope that the story writing if she returns is better then in shadowlands... then it destroid her character ...😢
Maybe the forsaken finally realise, that they are nothing more than rotting biological mass... . They do not longer serve any purpose, their existance is intrinsically meaningless. But this is a good thing, because with this lack of purpose, they might as well do what they love the most - like fishing for example.
Bro, when I finally realized this is life, it still messes with my head now and ita been 3 years since I REALLY understood this
My favourite part of the game is gather crafting resources. I sell them super cheap on the AH because I need bag space for the next trip. I love destabilizing markets when I drop 50x20 of anything for like 5 gold. Resellers mess with the market for days after that.
I reaaaaaaaaaaally hope Sylvanas comes back soon
I honestly want Nathanos even more than the Banshee Queen
Councils are lame.
Can we side with the Scarlet Crusade Please?
Why?
Sylvannas is trash, story was trashed since bfa
Lordaeron is dead. Human fans need to stop.
exactly. Those Fer theh Nerth RPers are really troubling.
Glory to the Forsaken.
Lordaeron should be the kingdom for both undeads and humans
@@Pigraider268 humans have Stormwind, Stromgarde and Kul Tiras. They don't need even more land.
@@099NitroUndead isn't a race mate, it's a curse. If you know anything about Calia you know that she wanted to unite undead and human Lordaeronians and she was very close to achieve it
@@Pigraider268 we didn't ask for Calia. She is an alliance character who only exists to undermine the Forsaken. Stay in Stormwind and leave us alone. It's our land now. You have no rights.
Dark lady watch over you
The allaince gets nothing again
It's not mentioned in this video, but Night Elf heritage quest is coming in the same patch, and the whole patch is about the new world tree that tyrande planted, so it's quite silly to victimize yourselves and imply alliance gets less stuff than the horde, when at most, it's just that people who make videos don't find it interesting enough to mention.
I’m a Loyalist and I would love to see her return! I’ve been missing the heck out of not seeing her in Dragonflight. I’m so stoked that the Forsaken are getting Heritage Armor even tho I love the Darkshore Warfront armor a lot lol. The Forsaken do deserve to get answers from Sylvanas who practically banded them together and gave them free will, and a home, after the Lich King’s control over them waned, and move forward into a new era. But we loyalists want to see her in some form as we got a Loyalist option during BfA otherwise they would’ve have done so! 🔮💀🦇🏹🩶💜💚
I played wow for a month recently after quitting early bfa and i have to say it was one of the most hollow experiences I've ever had. I couldn't care any less for the npcs yammering on the screen, it was so...boring. I liked the various mechanics the game outright copied from better games but even then I hit that grind wall where they want to stretch that subscription...Even with bob cotic and his trogs gone, this game is freaking soulless.